Testing with 30 Watts

I also went through at 20 watts and but I only got an average of 31 FPS at 20 watts with the MSI claw so yeah I mean that steam deck definitely dominates with Borderlands 3 and the final game I wanted to test here was cyberpunk 2077 running that MSI Claw at 30 Watts we're using the steam deck preset so this does use a little bit of FSR it's actually set to balance I didn't go through and change FSR to XCS with the Intel archive GPU because it really doesn't make much of a difference between the two so I figured we'd go ahead and keep it even here.

I will admit with these Archy gpus and even the desktop Arc gpus we have had issues with cyberpunk 2077 it's definitely gotten a lot better with the new Intel drivers but I mean even with the MSI claw running at 30 watts the steam deck still comes ahead with cyberpunk 2077 on the steam deck. We had an average of 50 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts only an average of 27 and at a 30 W TDP with this Benchmark steam deck preset 42 FPS so obviously when it comes down to it MSI and Intel have a lot more optimizations to do with the new Ary GPU seeing that the uh steam deck is so well optimized and I know it's been on the market for a long time but this is the go-to handheld this is the one that everybody Compares every other handheld too.

I figured we'd go ahead and put these together and it looks like even with that MSI claw busting out at 30 WT the 15 watt steam deck OLED still outperforms it now the next thing I wanted to take a look at was power consumption and battery life between the two devices and to do this I ran the cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark at high just kind of giving an idea of what kind of battery draw we're getting from each of these devices.

As we know the steam deck OLED is battery life King at full boat even with the brightness set to 100% on the OLED screen this thing only pulls around 23 watts in total from the battery on the MSI claw 20 W TDP 100% screen brightness we're pulling close to 27 w so I'm just going to call it 26 1/2 on average and at a 30 W TDP with that MSI claw we're pulling around 35.5 watts of power from the battery and this is total system power draw.

So we can use some simple math to kind of calculate what kind of battery life we're seeing here and remember this is flat out for the OLED steam deck this is all the performance we're going to get out of it without updates from valve it's got a 50w hour battery we can get around 125 minutes of runtime out of the deck flat out and that's really great for a device like this much more lowering that TDP playing Indie Games with the MSI claw we've got a 53w hour battery and at a 20 W TDP we can get around 120 Minutes of runtime at a 30 wat TDP we can get around 89 minutes a runtime but with most everything that we've tested so far the steam Deck with better battery life and lower TDP on that Apu is outperforming the MSI claw.

I really do hope to see some major updates for the claw because I love seeing new competition hit the market I I love these new chips and you know coming out of the box with this was really hoping for better performance especially at those higher tdps I don't mind sacrificing a little bit of battery life for better performance but I mean even at that higher TDP really hard pressed to play a lot of these games like the steam deck does and still get really great battery life.

I'm really hopeful that we will see some updates from Intel and MSI that up the performance on this but you know one thing that I've been kind of digging into is just the amount of cores here 16 cores 22 threads and running this at 20 watts it does kind of seem like you know everything's going to be fighting for that little bit of wattage that we have there especially with the new Ary GPU.

So I've been experimenting with parking some of these cores and totally disabling some of them. I will have an updated video coming up but you know I wanted to show you how it worked directly out of the box compared to the steam deck and yeah I mean that steam deck is outperforming the MSI claw but that's going to wrap it up for this one.

I'd love to know your thoughts in the comments below and if you've got any questions just let me know but that's it for this one.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhey what's going on everybody it's ETA Prime back here again today we're going to be putting the steam deck OLED up against the allnew MSI claw and if you're familiar with the new MSI claw you know they make two different versions the version we're taking a look at in this video has that Intel Core Ultra 7 155h so it is the higher-end version if you're interested in seeing a comparison between the Steam deck and the 135h version let me know in the comments below but I really wanted to do this because I've had a lot of people asking and of course whenever a new handheld is released it's always compared to the steam deck and I wanted to see if this could beat it in performance and battery life not sure what's going to happen here but uh we're going to go ahead and jump right into it there are a few things to note before we get started here when it comes to the MSI claw we have the MSI Control Center from here we can adjust our power levels the lowest that we can go right now from the MSI control center on the MSI Claw is 20 watt now that's just kind of a manual set limit 20 watts up to 40 WTS pluged into the wall or up to 35 on battery now we definitely want to kind of get close to the battery life that the steam deck's putting now and we know that the steam deck only runs at a TDP of 15 watts with these benchmarks we're going to take a look at the MSI Claw at 20 watts and we're also going to be testing at 30 Watts because I really want to see if this can outperform the steam deck at a higher TDP and I kind of threw a bunch of different stuff in here just to give you a look and by the end of the video we're also going to take a look at overall battery life with both of these units now before we jump into it just wanted to give you a quick rundown on the specs here when it comes to the steam deck OLED we've got a custom AMD Apu with four cores eight threads it boost up to 3.5 GHz rdna 2 8cu ipu up to 1.6 16 GB of LP ddr5 at 6,400 megat transfers per second and a beautiful 7.4 in OLED display at 1280 by 800 also have Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5. 3 on paper the MSI Claw is loaded to the hilt we've got that brand new Intel Core Ultra 7 155h 16 cores 22 threads and with this we get six performance cores up to 4.8 GHz eight efficiency cores up to 3.8 and two low power efficiency cores up to 2.5 that brand new Intel AR I GPU up to 2.25 GHz with eight XE cores 16 GB of lpddr5 at 6,400 megat transfers per second a 7-in 120 HZ IPS display at 1080P and this does have Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4 of course the steam deck is running Linux Steam OS and the MSI Claw is running Windows 11 so yeah I mean if you were to look at both of these on paper you'd be like I'll choose the MSI claw just because it definitely looks like it's going to outperform what we've got over on the steam deck OLED coming in with a four core8 thread CPU and the GPU is based on rdna 2 it is getting a bit dated but with optimizations the steam deck is definitely one of the best performing handhelds on the market but now it's time to get into some game test and see how these really do compare but the first game we've got is something that definitely runs really well on a lot of apus out there I consider it an easier to run game we've got fortza Horizon 5 and like I mentioned we did drop the steam deck down to 720p just to kind of make it fair if I could have run the MSI Claw at 800p I would have done it not a problem over on the right hand side SI claw with that 155h CPU at 20 watts and again I'm testing that 20 and 30 but it still looks like the steam deck is beating out the MSI claw with this game here because at the end of this Benchmark on the steam deck OLED we had an average of 55 FPS on the MSI Claw at 20 watts we averaged 50 and taking that MSI claw up to 30 Watts we did average 60 so yeah I mean double the TDP there did beat out the steam deck not by as much as I thought it would though moving over to the built-in Benchmark for shadow of the Tomb Raider 720p medium again steam deck OLED on the left we've got that MSI Claw on the right and with this I just kind of recorded the 30 watt footage just to give you an idea and you know going into this game here I thought the core Ultra 71 155h at that much higher TDP would be beating out that steam deck by quite a bit but unfortunately it's not on the steam deck we had an average of 45 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts average of 38 and at 30 Watts on the the MSI claw average of 42 so the steam deck at 15 watts beat out the claw at 30 with shadow of the Tomb Raider moving over to something a bit harder to run we've got Red Dead 2 720p low and I'm going to tell you the truth I've never tested this on the steam deck it's not steam deck verified but it is in the playable section couple bugs here and there but uh at 15 watts looks like that steam deck's doing a pretty good job over on the right hand side MSI Claw at 30 at the end here Ste deck averaged 52 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts we had an average of 48 and at 30 Watts MSI claw did beat out the steam deck coming in at an average of 65 FPS next up we've got Horizon zero Dawn and I've been doing testing on these AR gpus for about 2 months now I've never really seen great performance out of this game on these new igpus and uh even at 30 Watts the MSI Claw is struggling a bit with this game we're at 720p low with no scaling and it's actually pretty insane how far the steam deck is ahead here because we had an average of 61 over on the steam deck olad 20 watts on the MSI claw we only averaged 32 and at a 30 watt TDP 46 I also went back and tested this at 35 Watts on battery we only had an average of 51 FPS I also went through tested out Borderlands 3 and yeah the steam deck does outperform the MSI claw by quite a bit with this game I was testing at 30 Watts I also went through at 20 but but I only got an average of 31 FPS at 20 watts with the MSI claw so yeah I mean that steam deck definitely dominates with Borderlands 3 and the final game I wanted to test here was cyberpunk 2077 running that MSI Claw at 30 Watts we're using the steam deck preset so this does use a little bit of FSR it's actually set to balance I didn't go through and change FSR to XCS with the Intel archive GPU because it really doesn't make much of a difference between the two so I figured we'd go ahead and keep it even here and I will admit with these Archy gpus and even the desktop Arc gpus we have had issues with cyberpunk 2077 it's definitely gotten a lot better with the new Intel drivers but I mean even with the MSI claw running at 30 wats the steam deck still comes ahead with cyberpunk 2077 on the steam deck we had an average of 50 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts only an average of 27 and at a 30 W TDP with this Benchmark steam deck preset 42 FPS so obviously when it comes down to it MSI and Intel have a lot more optimizations to do with the new Ary GPU seeing that the uh steam deck is so well optimized and I know it's been on the market for a long time but this is the go-to handheld this is the one that everybody Compares every other handheld too so I figured we'd go ahead and put these together and it looks like even with that MSI claw busting out at 30 WT the 15 watt steam deck OLED still outperforms it now the next thing I wanted to take a look at was power consumption and battery life between the two devices and to do this I ran the cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark at high just kind of giving an idea of what kind of battery draw we're getting from each of these devices and as we know the steam deck OLED is battery life King at full boat even with the brightness set to 100% on the OLED screen this thing only pulls around 23 watts in total from the battery on the MSI claw 20 W TDP 100% screen brightness we're pulling close to 27 w so I'm just going to call it 26 1/2 on average and at a 30 W TDP with that MSI claw we're pulling around 35.5 watts of power from the battery and this is total system power draw so we can use some simple math to kind of calculate what kind of battery life we're seeing here and remember this is flat out for the OLED steam deck this is all the performance we're going to get out of it without updates from valve it's got a 50w hour battery we can get around 125 minutes of runtime out of the deck flat out and that's really great for a device like this much more lowering that TDP playing Indie Games with the MSI claw we've got a 53w hour battery and at a 20 W TDP we can get around 120 Minutes of runtime at a 30 wat TDP we can get around 89 minutes a runtime but with most everything that we've tested so far the steam Deck with better battery life and lower TDP on that Apu is outperforming the MSI claw and I really do hope to see some major updates for the claw because I love seeing new competition hit the market I I love these new chips and you know coming out of the box with this was really hoping for better performance especially at those higher tdps I don't mind sacrificing a little bit of battery life for better performance but I mean even at that higher TDP really hard pressed to play a lot of these games like the steam deck does and still get really great battery life I'm really hopeful that we will see some updates from Intel and MSI that up the performance on this but you know one thing that I've been kind of digging into is just the amount of cores here 16 cores 22 threats and running this at 20 watts it does kind of seem like you know everything's going to be fighting for that little bit of wattage that we have there especially with the new Ary GPU so I've been experimenting with parking some of these cores and totally disabling some of them I will have an updated video coming up but you know I wanted to show you how it worked directly out of the box compared to the steam deck and yeah I mean that steam deck is outperforming the MSI claw but that's going to wrap it up for this one I'd love to know your thoughts in the comments below and if you've got any questions just let me know but that's it for this one and like always thanks for watchinghey what's going on everybody it's ETA Prime back here again today we're going to be putting the steam deck OLED up against the allnew MSI claw and if you're familiar with the new MSI claw you know they make two different versions the version we're taking a look at in this video has that Intel Core Ultra 7 155h so it is the higher-end version if you're interested in seeing a comparison between the Steam deck and the 135h version let me know in the comments below but I really wanted to do this because I've had a lot of people asking and of course whenever a new handheld is released it's always compared to the steam deck and I wanted to see if this could beat it in performance and battery life not sure what's going to happen here but uh we're going to go ahead and jump right into it there are a few things to note before we get started here when it comes to the MSI claw we have the MSI Control Center from here we can adjust our power levels the lowest that we can go right now from the MSI control center on the MSI Claw is 20 watt now that's just kind of a manual set limit 20 watts up to 40 WTS pluged into the wall or up to 35 on battery now we definitely want to kind of get close to the battery life that the steam deck's putting now and we know that the steam deck only runs at a TDP of 15 watts with these benchmarks we're going to take a look at the MSI Claw at 20 watts and we're also going to be testing at 30 Watts because I really want to see if this can outperform the steam deck at a higher TDP and I kind of threw a bunch of different stuff in here just to give you a look and by the end of the video we're also going to take a look at overall battery life with both of these units now before we jump into it just wanted to give you a quick rundown on the specs here when it comes to the steam deck OLED we've got a custom AMD Apu with four cores eight threads it boost up to 3.5 GHz rdna 2 8cu ipu up to 1.6 16 GB of LP ddr5 at 6,400 megat transfers per second and a beautiful 7.4 in OLED display at 1280 by 800 also have Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5. 3 on paper the MSI Claw is loaded to the hilt we've got that brand new Intel Core Ultra 7 155h 16 cores 22 threads and with this we get six performance cores up to 4.8 GHz eight efficiency cores up to 3.8 and two low power efficiency cores up to 2.5 that brand new Intel AR I GPU up to 2.25 GHz with eight XE cores 16 GB of lpddr5 at 6,400 megat transfers per second a 7-in 120 HZ IPS display at 1080P and this does have Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4 of course the steam deck is running Linux Steam OS and the MSI Claw is running Windows 11 so yeah I mean if you were to look at both of these on paper you'd be like I'll choose the MSI claw just because it definitely looks like it's going to outperform what we've got over on the steam deck OLED coming in with a four core8 thread CPU and the GPU is based on rdna 2 it is getting a bit dated but with optimizations the steam deck is definitely one of the best performing handhelds on the market but now it's time to get into some game test and see how these really do compare but the first game we've got is something that definitely runs really well on a lot of apus out there I consider it an easier to run game we've got fortza Horizon 5 and like I mentioned we did drop the steam deck down to 720p just to kind of make it fair if I could have run the MSI Claw at 800p I would have done it not a problem over on the right hand side SI claw with that 155h CPU at 20 watts and again I'm testing that 20 and 30 but it still looks like the steam deck is beating out the MSI claw with this game here because at the end of this Benchmark on the steam deck OLED we had an average of 55 FPS on the MSI Claw at 20 watts we averaged 50 and taking that MSI claw up to 30 Watts we did average 60 so yeah I mean double the TDP there did beat out the steam deck not by as much as I thought it would though moving over to the built-in Benchmark for shadow of the Tomb Raider 720p medium again steam deck OLED on the left we've got that MSI Claw on the right and with this I just kind of recorded the 30 watt footage just to give you an idea and you know going into this game here I thought the core Ultra 71 155h at that much higher TDP would be beating out that steam deck by quite a bit but unfortunately it's not on the steam deck we had an average of 45 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts average of 38 and at 30 Watts on the the MSI claw average of 42 so the steam deck at 15 watts beat out the claw at 30 with shadow of the Tomb Raider moving over to something a bit harder to run we've got Red Dead 2 720p low and I'm going to tell you the truth I've never tested this on the steam deck it's not steam deck verified but it is in the playable section couple bugs here and there but uh at 15 watts looks like that steam deck's doing a pretty good job over on the right hand side MSI Claw at 30 at the end here Ste deck averaged 52 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts we had an average of 48 and at 30 Watts MSI claw did beat out the steam deck coming in at an average of 65 FPS next up we've got Horizon zero Dawn and I've been doing testing on these AR gpus for about 2 months now I've never really seen great performance out of this game on these new igpus and uh even at 30 Watts the MSI Claw is struggling a bit with this game we're at 720p low with no scaling and it's actually pretty insane how far the steam deck is ahead here because we had an average of 61 over on the steam deck olad 20 watts on the MSI claw we only averaged 32 and at a 30 watt TDP 46 I also went back and tested this at 35 Watts on battery we only had an average of 51 FPS I also went through tested out Borderlands 3 and yeah the steam deck does outperform the MSI claw by quite a bit with this game I was testing at 30 Watts I also went through at 20 but but I only got an average of 31 FPS at 20 watts with the MSI claw so yeah I mean that steam deck definitely dominates with Borderlands 3 and the final game I wanted to test here was cyberpunk 2077 running that MSI Claw at 30 Watts we're using the steam deck preset so this does use a little bit of FSR it's actually set to balance I didn't go through and change FSR to XCS with the Intel archive GPU because it really doesn't make much of a difference between the two so I figured we'd go ahead and keep it even here and I will admit with these Archy gpus and even the desktop Arc gpus we have had issues with cyberpunk 2077 it's definitely gotten a lot better with the new Intel drivers but I mean even with the MSI claw running at 30 wats the steam deck still comes ahead with cyberpunk 2077 on the steam deck we had an average of 50 FPS MSI Claw at 20 watts only an average of 27 and at a 30 W TDP with this Benchmark steam deck preset 42 FPS so obviously when it comes down to it MSI and Intel have a lot more optimizations to do with the new Ary GPU seeing that the uh steam deck is so well optimized and I know it's been on the market for a long time but this is the go-to handheld this is the one that everybody Compares every other handheld too so I figured we'd go ahead and put these together and it looks like even with that MSI claw busting out at 30 WT the 15 watt steam deck OLED still outperforms it now the next thing I wanted to take a look at was power consumption and battery life between the two devices and to do this I ran the cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark at high just kind of giving an idea of what kind of battery draw we're getting from each of these devices and as we know the steam deck OLED is battery life King at full boat even with the brightness set to 100% on the OLED screen this thing only pulls around 23 watts in total from the battery on the MSI claw 20 W TDP 100% screen brightness we're pulling close to 27 w so I'm just going to call it 26 1/2 on average and at a 30 W TDP with that MSI claw we're pulling around 35.5 watts of power from the battery and this is total system power draw so we can use some simple math to kind of calculate what kind of battery life we're seeing here and remember this is flat out for the OLED steam deck this is all the performance we're going to get out of it without updates from valve it's got a 50w hour battery we can get around 125 minutes of runtime out of the deck flat out and that's really great for a device like this much more lowering that TDP playing Indie Games with the MSI claw we've got a 53w hour battery and at a 20 W TDP we can get around 120 Minutes of runtime at a 30 wat TDP we can get around 89 minutes a runtime but with most everything that we've tested so far the steam Deck with better battery life and lower TDP on that Apu is outperforming the MSI claw and I really do hope to see some major updates for the claw because I love seeing new competition hit the market I I love these new chips and you know coming out of the box with this was really hoping for better performance especially at those higher tdps I don't mind sacrificing a little bit of battery life for better performance but I mean even at that higher TDP really hard pressed to play a lot of these games like the steam deck does and still get really great battery life I'm really hopeful that we will see some updates from Intel and MSI that up the performance on this but you know one thing that I've been kind of digging into is just the amount of cores here 16 cores 22 threats and running this at 20 watts it does kind of seem like you know everything's going to be fighting for that little bit of wattage that we have there especially with the new Ary GPU so I've been experimenting with parking some of these cores and totally disabling some of them I will have an updated video coming up but you know I wanted to show you how it worked directly out of the box compared to the steam deck and yeah I mean that steam deck is outperforming the MSI claw but that's going to wrap it up for this one I'd love to know your thoughts in the comments below and if you've got any questions just let me know but that's it for this one and like always thanks for watching\n"