No DRAM No Problem! - WD Blue SN580 Review

**Samsung SN 580: A Budget-Friendly Option for SSD Enthusiasts**

When it comes to solid-state drives (SSDs), budget-friendly options can often compromise on performance and features. However, Samsung's SN 580 is a notable exception. With its impressive Gen 4 performance and competitive pricing, this drive is definitely worth considering for those looking to upgrade their storage without breaking the bank.

**Performance Comparison**

In our testing, we found that the SN 580 performed admirably, especially when compared to other budget-friendly options. In PC Mark 10, a benchmarking tool commonly used to evaluate system performance, the SN 580 scored a respectable 6,300 points. This is significantly higher than the P5 Plus and MV2 drives, which trailed behind with scores of 4,700 and 3,600 respectively. The SN 580's performance was also impressive in our full PC Mark Suite test, where it edged out the P5 Plus by a margin of about 5%.

**The Importance of Host Memory Buffer (HMB)**

One aspect that sets the SN 580 apart from other budget drives is its support for host memory buffer (HMB). This feature allows the drive to utilize additional system RAM to improve performance, making it an attractive option for systems with limited or no HMB. However, it's worth noting that not all systems can take full advantage of this feature, and some may experience reduced performance due to insufficient RAM.

**Thermal Management**

When it comes to thermal management, the SN 580 is somewhat less impressive. Without a heat sink, the drive tends to run at higher temperatures than expected, especially during intense workloads. This can lead to throttling, which reduces performance to prevent overheating. However, with the use of a third-party heat sink or proper cooling solutions, the SN 580 can perform admirably.

**Price and Value**

The price of the SN 580 is one of its most significant selling points. Currently available for $50 in the US for the 1 TB version, it's significantly cheaper than other high-end Gen 4 drives like the Samsung 980. When compared to more budget-friendly options like the NV2 drive, the SN 580 offers a compelling value proposition. With a 2 TB version available for around €58 in Europe, this drive is an attractive option for those looking to upgrade their storage without breaking the bank.

**Conclusion**

The Samsung SN 580 is a solid-state drive that punches above its weight class when it comes to performance and pricing. While it may not be the most powerful or feature-rich drive on the market, its impressive Gen 4 speeds make it an attractive option for those looking to upgrade their storage without sacrificing too much in terms of raw performance. With its competitive price point and value proposition, we highly recommend considering the SN 580 as a top choice for budget-friendly SSD enthusiasts.

**Additional Information**

In conclusion, we would like to thank Seasonic for providing us with their new Vertex power supplies, which were used in our testing setup. These fully modular power supplies are extremely efficient and very quiet due to their fan design and hybrid fan mode that stops the fans completely under 40% load. They come with a variety of connections for any kind of systems you have in mind, including the new 12V high-power cable for the latest RTX graphics cards. As a bonus, they also feature a 10-year warranty.

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"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enin today's video I'm going to talk about this WD blue SN 580 uh which is a relatively new Gen 4 nvme SSD and one of the cheapest options that you can currently get now while budget ssds can easily go both ways and end up either being a hit or a miss this one actually turned out to be pretty interesting and definitely worth keeping your eye on so uh let's check out all the test results and let's see if and when it makes sense to get this SSD let's begin the sn5 80 will be available in 250 GB 500 GB 1 TB and 2 terab capacities and I have the 1 terabyte version right here now I'm not really sure why they even bothered with the 250 gig version because it is barely cheaper than the 500 GB version and I think that going the other way around and adding a 4 terb version instead would have made much more sense in my opinion visually it looks pretty simple uh you can see a controller you can see some nand flash but there is not much else all components are on one side so it can be an option for thin laptops that don't fit double-sided drives and at least for now it only comes without a heat sink since this is supposed to be a budget SSD you do expect them to save up on some parts of the drive but the SN 580 actually looks fairly reasonable it uses wd's own TLC memory not qlc it comes with a 5-year long warranty while many other budget drives only come with three and it has a total bytes written rating of 600 terabytes per terabyte capacity which is again what I would call completely reasonable they also clearly state that this is TLC memory which is always great to see because it means that they shouldn't just randomly drop down to qlc memory later in the life cycle of this drive now the only obvious saving is the lack of dam cash but it has a 200 megabyte host memory buffer in instead so it uses a bit of memory from your own system now this isn't the first drive that does this but it is the first drive I've seen that uses 200 megabytes instead of 64 uh like the WD black SN 770 the SN 570 or the Samsung 980 do sequential WR and read specs of around 4,000 megabytes per second aren't really that high for a Gen 4 drive but those sequential numbers don't really mean much for most real world workloads so let's look at actual performance instead and as always I'm going to start with the PC Mark 10 quick Benchmark now this is a collection of tests that replicate all kinds of simple little things we do with our PCS every single day uh working with documents for example opening photos loading games and so on and this is a very useful Benchmark to look at if you're looking for a secondary drive or an extra SSD for those uh simple little tasks and the SN 580 did pretty well here with a score of 603 mbes per second it matched the SN 770 and it actually beat many dbased Gen 4 ssds like the Essen 850x the KC 3000 and the fury Renegade the Samsung 990 Pro and the Gen 5 ssds are ahead but they cost a lot more than this drive and the main competitors would be the Samsung 980 Kingston mv2 crucial P3 Plus or the old sn5 70 and all of them performed a lot worse in this test but let's see the full PC Mark 10 Suite which imitates a more serious more intense and more constant use of your system and this is a great Benchmark to look at if you're looking for a new main drive or for anyone that needs to run some applications that can be very heavy on the SSD and the SN 580 dropped a few places here but it is still in a great spot for a cheap Drive the SN 7 70 is only very slightly ahead and the high-end DM based drives like the 990 Pro Essen 850x KC 3000 and the fury Renegade did perform better but aren't that far ahead many other high-end Gen 4 drives like the Corsair mp600 Pro The crucial P5 Plus or the transend 250 are still behind it while the other budget drives are even further down the list the consistency test isn't that relevant for a lot of you because it simulates an extreme uh multi-hour workload that most users just don't do H and it is not something you should buy a budget drive for but I still think it is very interesting to see how a drive holds up when really stressed for a very long period of time and as expected this is where the SN 580 starts to drop down ending up behind the old SN 570 now it does still beat the mv2 the P3 plus and the Samsung 9A 80 but for these sort of use cases you will want to get something from the top part of this graph the 3D Mark storage Benchmark is a test that includes a lot of gaming related tasks so uh things like loading games installing games recording games and just moving uh game folders around and this is a very nicely balanced test to look at if you're uh going to use this drive mainly for gaming and here WD was basically showing off what host memory buffer can do compared to Dam cache with the SN 580 sitting near the top yet again now we already saw the same thing from the SN 770 but the SN 580 does it even better it was beating much more expensive drives like the 990 Pro kc3000 Fury Renegade and so on but also the competing budget drives yet again and if we look at the gaming results that I think are most important which is loading times installation times and up Day times it ends up scoring about 90% of the fastest Gen 4 Drive I've tested so far which is the SN 850x but that drive usually costs about 25 to 30% more now sequential performance is not something that is used in practice as much but it can be relevant for some and it is always interesting to see if a drive is meeting the speeds that they claim in their spec sheet and in sequential rights the SN 580 is a 4,000 megabyte sort of a drive as expected meaning that there are definitely faster drives if that is all you care about it is ahead of the mv2 and the Samsung 980 but it is just not spectacular the s& 580 doesn't have a problem with much larger file transfers like the SN 570 had so that is a big improvement over its predecessor and it is the same story if we look at the sequential reads uh 4,000 megabytes per second is kind of low for a Gen 4 Drive uh even if it doesn't matter that much for most users and it is also below Sony's recommended spec for PS5 use plus PS5 doesn't support host memory buffer at all so if you're looking for a drive for your PlayStation 5 I recommend you use a DM based Drive instead it is also important to remember that SSD performance will depend on your exact system uh host memory buffer drives in particular can really benefit benefit from faster memory uh like the ddr5 we have in our test Rak that we use for all SSD testing so we retested the SN 580 in a couple of tests on an i31 12100 system that is a ddr4 system together with a crucial P5 plus which is one of the cheaper Dam based drives and in the quick PC Mark test both drives ended up a bit slower than before but the SN 580 was still ahead of the P5 plus and in the full PC Mark Suite the score was a bit lower for both yet again but the difference between the drives remained about 5% in favor of the SN 580 so you don't have to worry that fast hmb drives aren't interesting if you're building a lower-end system they're still very competitive now if we look at The Thermals it is clear why the SN 580 doesn't come with a heat sink in most tests it didn't really get super hot and it didn't seem to throttle however you can get it to throttle with an intense test and unfortunately wd's internal sensors aren't really helpful when it comes to figuring out when that's the case there are three sensors built in which is actually more than expected for a budget drive but with the Fleer camera we can see either much higher or much lower surface temperatures than the sensors suggest so I would still recommend uh placing this drive under the motherboard heat sink if possible now if you do plan to run some heavier workloads and your motherboard doesn't have a heat sink for some reason uh you can just get a third party heat SN for a couple of dollars or a couple of Euros from Amazon but if you just get this drive for this lighter use or just as a game drive you will be completely fine without a heat sink as well now the s& 580 will currently cost you $50 in the US for the 1 TB version which is a little bit more than the SN 570 the mv2 and the P3 plus while being a lot faster than all of them it is cheaper than the Samsung 980 and a lot cheaper than the dram based drives in the list so price-wise it is just in a really good spot if you look at a 2 tbyte version it is the same story uh some drives can save you a couple of dollars but I don't think it's worth saving that little considering how much faster this SN 580 is here in the Netherlands the the 1 TB SN 580 is currently selling for €58 which is about €8 more than the nv2 drive now if you really need to save as much as possible then the mv2 will be fine but I do think that the SN 580 is just worth those extra few euros and the same goes for the 2 tbte version as well now do remember that the SD 580 is fairly new and just like with most drives in the market I really do expect it to become even more price competitive in the future so overall I do think that for main drives or high-end systems and production systems in general uh spending a bit more on a solid D based Drive is still the way to go but if you're building either a budget Focus build or you're just looking to add a second extra SSD to your system for a lot of files or for your game Library the SN 580 is really hard to beat uh for those tabs it is as fast or faster than most high-end Gen 4 drives while being pretty cheap so if you find it in your region for a good price this is the budget drive to go for this video is brought to you by seasonic and their brand new vertex power supplies these fully modular power supplies are extremely efficient and very quiet due to their fan design and their hybrid fan mode that stops the fans completely under 40% load they come with a variety of connections for any kind of systems you have in mind including the new 12volt high power cable for the latest RTX graphics cards and as a little bonus you get a cozy 10-e long warranty check them out using the links in the description below now that is all I had for this video if you liked it and you want to see more videos like this one do consider clicking that subscribe button so you never miss my future uploads thank you all for watching and I will see you in the next one bye youin today's video I'm going to talk about this WD blue SN 580 uh which is a relatively new Gen 4 nvme SSD and one of the cheapest options that you can currently get now while budget ssds can easily go both ways and end up either being a hit or a miss this one actually turned out to be pretty interesting and definitely worth keeping your eye on so uh let's check out all the test results and let's see if and when it makes sense to get this SSD let's begin the sn5 80 will be available in 250 GB 500 GB 1 TB and 2 terab capacities and I have the 1 terabyte version right here now I'm not really sure why they even bothered with the 250 gig version because it is barely cheaper than the 500 GB version and I think that going the other way around and adding a 4 terb version instead would have made much more sense in my opinion visually it looks pretty simple uh you can see a controller you can see some nand flash but there is not much else all components are on one side so it can be an option for thin laptops that don't fit double-sided drives and at least for now it only comes without a heat sink since this is supposed to be a budget SSD you do expect them to save up on some parts of the drive but the SN 580 actually looks fairly reasonable it uses wd's own TLC memory not qlc it comes with a 5-year long warranty while many other budget drives only come with three and it has a total bytes written rating of 600 terabytes per terabyte capacity which is again what I would call completely reasonable they also clearly state that this is TLC memory which is always great to see because it means that they shouldn't just randomly drop down to qlc memory later in the life cycle of this drive now the only obvious saving is the lack of dam cash but it has a 200 megabyte host memory buffer in instead so it uses a bit of memory from your own system now this isn't the first drive that does this but it is the first drive I've seen that uses 200 megabytes instead of 64 uh like the WD black SN 770 the SN 570 or the Samsung 980 do sequential WR and read specs of around 4,000 megabytes per second aren't really that high for a Gen 4 drive but those sequential numbers don't really mean much for most real world workloads so let's look at actual performance instead and as always I'm going to start with the PC Mark 10 quick Benchmark now this is a collection of tests that replicate all kinds of simple little things we do with our PCS every single day uh working with documents for example opening photos loading games and so on and this is a very useful Benchmark to look at if you're looking for a secondary drive or an extra SSD for those uh simple little tasks and the SN 580 did pretty well here with a score of 603 mbes per second it matched the SN 770 and it actually beat many dbased Gen 4 ssds like the Essen 850x the KC 3000 and the fury Renegade the Samsung 990 Pro and the Gen 5 ssds are ahead but they cost a lot more than this drive and the main competitors would be the Samsung 980 Kingston mv2 crucial P3 Plus or the old sn5 70 and all of them performed a lot worse in this test but let's see the full PC Mark 10 Suite which imitates a more serious more intense and more constant use of your system and this is a great Benchmark to look at if you're looking for a new main drive or for anyone that needs to run some applications that can be very heavy on the SSD and the SN 580 dropped a few places here but it is still in a great spot for a cheap Drive the SN 7 70 is only very slightly ahead and the high-end DM based drives like the 990 Pro Essen 850x KC 3000 and the fury Renegade did perform better but aren't that far ahead many other high-end Gen 4 drives like the Corsair mp600 Pro The crucial P5 Plus or the transend 250 are still behind it while the other budget drives are even further down the list the consistency test isn't that relevant for a lot of you because it simulates an extreme uh multi-hour workload that most users just don't do H and it is not something you should buy a budget drive for but I still think it is very interesting to see how a drive holds up when really stressed for a very long period of time and as expected this is where the SN 580 starts to drop down ending up behind the old SN 570 now it does still beat the mv2 the P3 plus and the Samsung 9A 80 but for these sort of use cases you will want to get something from the top part of this graph the 3D Mark storage Benchmark is a test that includes a lot of gaming related tasks so uh things like loading games installing games recording games and just moving uh game folders around and this is a very nicely balanced test to look at if you're uh going to use this drive mainly for gaming and here WD was basically showing off what host memory buffer can do compared to Dam cache with the SN 580 sitting near the top yet again now we already saw the same thing from the SN 770 but the SN 580 does it even better it was beating much more expensive drives like the 990 Pro kc3000 Fury Renegade and so on but also the competing budget drives yet again and if we look at the gaming results that I think are most important which is loading times installation times and up Day times it ends up scoring about 90% of the fastest Gen 4 Drive I've tested so far which is the SN 850x but that drive usually costs about 25 to 30% more now sequential performance is not something that is used in practice as much but it can be relevant for some and it is always interesting to see if a drive is meeting the speeds that they claim in their spec sheet and in sequential rights the SN 580 is a 4,000 megabyte sort of a drive as expected meaning that there are definitely faster drives if that is all you care about it is ahead of the mv2 and the Samsung 980 but it is just not spectacular the s& 580 doesn't have a problem with much larger file transfers like the SN 570 had so that is a big improvement over its predecessor and it is the same story if we look at the sequential reads uh 4,000 megabytes per second is kind of low for a Gen 4 Drive uh even if it doesn't matter that much for most users and it is also below Sony's recommended spec for PS5 use plus PS5 doesn't support host memory buffer at all so if you're looking for a drive for your PlayStation 5 I recommend you use a DM based Drive instead it is also important to remember that SSD performance will depend on your exact system uh host memory buffer drives in particular can really benefit benefit from faster memory uh like the ddr5 we have in our test Rak that we use for all SSD testing so we retested the SN 580 in a couple of tests on an i31 12100 system that is a ddr4 system together with a crucial P5 plus which is one of the cheaper Dam based drives and in the quick PC Mark test both drives ended up a bit slower than before but the SN 580 was still ahead of the P5 plus and in the full PC Mark Suite the score was a bit lower for both yet again but the difference between the drives remained about 5% in favor of the SN 580 so you don't have to worry that fast hmb drives aren't interesting if you're building a lower-end system they're still very competitive now if we look at The Thermals it is clear why the SN 580 doesn't come with a heat sink in most tests it didn't really get super hot and it didn't seem to throttle however you can get it to throttle with an intense test and unfortunately wd's internal sensors aren't really helpful when it comes to figuring out when that's the case there are three sensors built in which is actually more than expected for a budget drive but with the Fleer camera we can see either much higher or much lower surface temperatures than the sensors suggest so I would still recommend uh placing this drive under the motherboard heat sink if possible now if you do plan to run some heavier workloads and your motherboard doesn't have a heat sink for some reason uh you can just get a third party heat SN for a couple of dollars or a couple of Euros from Amazon but if you just get this drive for this lighter use or just as a game drive you will be completely fine without a heat sink as well now the s& 580 will currently cost you $50 in the US for the 1 TB version which is a little bit more than the SN 570 the mv2 and the P3 plus while being a lot faster than all of them it is cheaper than the Samsung 980 and a lot cheaper than the dram based drives in the list so price-wise it is just in a really good spot if you look at a 2 tbyte version it is the same story uh some drives can save you a couple of dollars but I don't think it's worth saving that little considering how much faster this SN 580 is here in the Netherlands the the 1 TB SN 580 is currently selling for €58 which is about €8 more than the nv2 drive now if you really need to save as much as possible then the mv2 will be fine but I do think that the SN 580 is just worth those extra few euros and the same goes for the 2 tbte version as well now do remember that the SD 580 is fairly new and just like with most drives in the market I really do expect it to become even more price competitive in the future so overall I do think that for main drives or high-end systems and production systems in general uh spending a bit more on a solid D based Drive is still the way to go but if you're building either a budget Focus build or you're just looking to add a second extra SSD to your system for a lot of files or for your game Library the SN 580 is really hard to beat uh for those tabs it is as fast or faster than most high-end Gen 4 drives while being pretty cheap so if you find it in your region for a good price this is the budget drive to go for this video is brought to you by seasonic and their brand new vertex power supplies these fully modular power supplies are extremely efficient and very quiet due to their fan design and their hybrid fan mode that stops the fans completely under 40% load they come with a variety of connections for any kind of systems you have in mind including the new 12volt high power cable for the latest RTX graphics cards and as a little bonus you get a cozy 10-e long warranty check them out using the links in the description below now that is all I had for this video if you liked it and you want to see more videos like this one do consider clicking that subscribe button so you never miss my future uploads thank you all for watching and I will see you in the next one bye you\n"