The Challenges of Building with High-Performance Graphics Cards in Small Form Factor Cases

In this article, we'll explore the challenges of building with high-performance graphics cards in small form factor cases. Specifically, we'll take a look at the Silverstone SG-13B case and how it handles two slot cards versus true two slot cards.

The Importance of Clearance in PC Building

One of the key considerations when building with high-performance graphics cards is clearance. The card must fit within the confines of the case without compromising airflow or making any contact with the surrounding components. In the Silverstone SG-13B case, there are specific clearances that need to be considered. For example, the 6800 XT and 6800 side by side show a slight difference in thickness top to bottom due to the card's classification as a two slot card or two and a half slot card. This means that the shroud of the card does not exceed the height of the rear IO bracket.

The Consequences of Insufficient Clearance

If there is insufficient clearance, it can lead to issues such as reduced airflow, increased temperatures, and potentially even damage to the components. In this case, we had an issue with the 6800 XT not fitting properly due to its classification as a two slot card. However, once we realized that the card was wider than expected, we were able to find a solution by cutting through the case.

The Silverstone SG-13B Case: A Compact but Challenging Platform

The Silverstone SG-13B is a compact case designed for small form factor builds. While it has its advantages, such as being easy to install components and having a sleek design, it also presents some challenges. The case's narrow width and depth require careful planning and consideration when selecting components.

In our build, we encountered issues with clearance due to the 6800 XT's classification as a two slot card. However, this was not a problem for the 600 XT, which is classified as a true two slot card. This highlights the importance of understanding the technical specifications of each component and ensuring that they fit within the constraints of the case.

A Surprise Upgrade: Going from the 2080 Super to the 6800

When we decided to upgrade from the 2080 super to the 6800, we expected a significant improvement in performance. However, what we didn't expect was how much power delivery would be affected by the change in card size. The 6800 XT is more powerful than the 2080 super, and its increased power draw meant that we needed to upgrade our power supply to accommodate it.

The Importance of Power Delivery

Power delivery is a critical aspect of PC building, especially when working with high-performance graphics cards. A sufficient power supply must be able to handle the increased power requirements of the card, or else it can lead to reduced performance and potential damage to the components.

In our build, we upgraded from a 750-watt power supply to one that could handle the increased power requirements of the 6800 XT. This was essential for ensuring that the system received sufficient power to run at optimal levels.

The Benefits of the 6800 XT

The 6800 XT is an impressive piece of hardware that offers significant improvements over the 2080 super. Its increased performance and capabilities make it a great option for those looking to upgrade their system.

In our build, we were able to take full advantage of the 6800 XT's features, including its HDMI 2.1 support, which allows for 4K at 120Hz and even 8K at 60Hz.

The Importance of Choosing the Right Cable

When it comes to connecting peripherals to your PC, cable quality can make a significant difference in performance and compatibility. The cable you choose should be able to handle the data transfer rates required by your components.

In our build, we upgraded from a standard HDMI cable to an ultra-high-speed HDMI cable that supported 4K at 120Hz. This ensured that we could take full advantage of the 6800 XT's features and enjoy smooth performance in games and video playback.

The Silverstone SG-13B Case: A Compact but Challenging Platform

In conclusion, building with high-performance graphics cards in small form factor cases can be challenging due to clearance issues. The Silverstone SG-13B case presents some unique challenges, such as the need for careful planning and consideration when selecting components.

However, with the right approach and a willingness to troubleshoot, it is possible to overcome these challenges and build a powerful system that meets your needs. By understanding the technical specifications of each component and ensuring that they fit within the constraints of the case, you can create a compact but powerful PC that delivers exceptional performance.

The Benefits of High-Performance Graphics Cards

High-performance graphics cards offer significant improvements over lower-end models, including increased performance, improved power delivery, and enhanced features such as HDMI 2.1 support.

In our build, we took full advantage of the 6800 XT's features, including its increased performance and capabilities. This allowed us to enjoy smooth gaming and video playback at high resolutions and frame rates.

The Future of PC Building

As PC building continues to evolve, it is likely that we will see more compact and powerful systems become available. With advancements in technology and design, it may be possible to build a system that combines the best of both worlds: power and portability.

However, for now, building with high-performance graphics cards in small form factor cases requires careful planning and consideration. By understanding the challenges and limitations of these types of builds, you can create a system that meets your needs and delivers exceptional performance.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enso silverstone sent over a couple of boxes for an ultra portable well i don't have ultra portable technically qualified this is not the smallest case on the market no one's claiming that it is uh super portable let's go with that it is going to be a very compact case and it will house some pretty powerful components and it will be going in my living room downstairs i haven't had a pc down there for a very long time and now that we've been hooked up with an lg oled tv which will be talking about a sponsored video coming up soon on the channel i wanted to build something that you know could drive that kind of like 4k 120 hertz refresh rate that you get on a lot of these modern oled panels so silverstone was gracious enough to send over a very small case that will fit in my entertainment setup now as well as a power supply and an aio we've got other parts i'm going to show you in a second it's going to be a pretty beefy build stay with me to get rid of that annoying activation watermark hop on over to vip std key and purchase a windows 10 pro oem key for fractions of the price of retail just use a secure payment method like paypal receive your key in seconds and activate your os here bye bye watermark and be sure to use our new offer code skgs for a sweet discount so this here is the silverstone sg13b c i'm pretty sure that's the full name of this particular model and the dash c is referring to the inclusion of a type c port down here at the bottom right if your motherboard doesn't support type c and you want two type a ports they have that variant i believe as well it's a very subdued just clean looking cube style itx case and it'll look really good in our entertainment setup mixed in with our receiver down below and our one of my center speakers with a clip center speaker off to the right in this configure and i really like the way that this case blends in with that hardware so somehow we're supposed to be able to fit an itx motherboard in here a full size graphics card two slot uh a 120mm aio and a full size what looks like full size power supply standard length psu silverstone says it can be done i'm not sure i did panic kind of last minute asked noctua to send out a low profile am4 cooler just in case thank you nacho for sending that out if i don't end up using it here obviously it'll be in some other build at some point in the channel so with the case out of the way let's talk about what else we're gonna we're gonna attempt to fit in here i i honestly i'm not seeing it but um apparently it can be done so let's give it a shot so this is it um yeah this is this is everything this seems kind of underwhelming these boxes are fairly small but it makes sense it's a small form factor build uh what do you know so we've got a ryzen 5 5600x in here so the latest m3 architecture is going to be great for driving those higher refresh rates that we can get with our with our display it's gonna be 120 yards display remember so up to 120 fps we want to try to cap that out you don't want to be limited by your cpu so that's why i feel the zen three here we have an asrock phantom b550 gaming itx this i have been sitting on for a good while sorry azeroth thanks for being patient with me it's finally going into the build that i intended it to go into in the first place uh we have a pf120 here this is a 120 mil all-in-one liquid cooler again this is the thing that i'm not too sure about yet we'll see if it fits we also have a 750 watt power supply over there from silverstone i'm not sure if that's that's sfx yeah so i think the case it looks like the case supports full on like atx power supplies but uh going with the sfx form factor will probably give us a bit more space which i'm sure silverstone accounted for so that's cool you have 32 gigs two 16 gig sticks 3600 megahertz apiece so that's really good for zen3 and then the last enigma this graphics card so the card when installed in this case will actually sit like so from front to back so we're going to be depth dependent here the card will slot directly into the itx motherboard which is nice we don't need a riser cable but here's the issue so if i line up the card with the rear slots i'm pretty sure we can't fill in space past this line here where the front panel is divided from the remainder of the chassis and we are right there on the edge folks so this 2080 super might just be a tad too big and if that is the case i do have an fe 2060 though i'm not sure if 2016 is gonna be able to drive a 4k 120 hertz display maybe with dlss that's possible but then we'll be limited to games that support dlss so i'm not entirely sure there but that is an option i don't have many cards to play with i don't have aibs sending me cards every other day kind of in the same boat as a lot of you i don't have nvidia sending me review samples like they send a lot of other channels as well i don't know if they particularly like the things that we have to say about the current state of things that's probably why but uh yeah at the end of the day i only have a few cards to play with and i'm really hoping that either the 2080 super or the 2060 work because of that dls's option uh when it comes to 4k gaming so let's go ahead and just uh just give it a shot i'm just going to start building in here and we'll see what happens so let's kick things off with the motherboard and cpu as usual now this board here does have type c support which is nice it also looks super duper sexy now this being a zn3 chip we want to make sure that the motherboard in question has the appropriate bios installed otherwise we won't get a post i've double checked that i actually had a previous cpu that i used to make sure that it would post with the newest one check the bios revision and we're good to go now if you're new to this whole pc building thing cpu installation is super simple there's going to be a white arrow on the board that's going to be our reference point there's also a golden arrow on the cpu you can see it right there at the bottom we want to align these two so they're facing the same direction we're going to lift the retention off we're using an am4 stock it's actually pretty simple compared to the lga sockets we're going to drop the cpu down it's going to slot into the little pinholes there in the socket itself we've got the golden triangle facing the same direction as the white arrow lower the retention arm back down and we're good to go next we're gonna install ram pull back on these two locks here we've got the notch in the middle we're gonna align with the notch in each of the dimms and uh yeah pretty straightforward start with one side push hard click push on the other side you hear that click you're good to go same thing for the second module right next to it click and click so these here are the internals of the silverstone case you can see it's fairly hollow in here however we do not have any access to the underside of the motherboard once it's installed so we'll need to get our aio mounting gear situated on the motherboard first before we secure everything to the chassis um okay so i'm struggling to visualize the whole aio aspect of this here we've got so much tubulin look at this all this here we don't need it right i mean this is to accommodate obviously mid towers and the like you want long enough tubes to reach the the socket but in a small form factor case like this this excess tubing just gets in the way of everything else and we're already going to be tight on space as it is i've tried with tubes on this side um i'm i'm not even sure if we can mount it tube side up top because we have the front facing down right now but uh we i mean the these cables are in the way um so i yeah i you know we could it's something we could we could probably pull off if we kept fiddling with it but honestly the tube length alone is not um not looking too good right now i'm kind of upset about that so i think we're just going to ditch the i o and we're going to use the noctua cooler why not so this here is the noctua nhl9a it is designed specifically for the am4 socket which means that it will not work to my knowledge with any other socket layout out there the way to design these coolers is that the hardware spacing is supposed to accommodate the cutouts for a specific socket type uh and and there's no way to interchange these because this cooler is already so compact adding modularity typically adds a bit of you know fluff to the overall dimensions of the cooler so this is designed specifically i said for am4 and if you want the intel equivalent you'll have to search for the l9 i think they call it the l9i or just type in nhl9 intel and you'll see there's also an lj1150x version of this cooler for intel builds check out the packaging i mean that that in and of itself has sold me noctua did a great job with this uh packaging detail here and i think we should be pretty much yeah so this is just gonna screw directly into the stock back plate that you'll get with your am4 motherboard never mind ignore what i just said they give us their own mounting hardware to use no big deal so what we're going to do is start with the cooler upside down i've got thermal paste applied on top of the cpu it looks rather messy but just roll with it we're going to flip the motherboard upside down and align the threads on the cooler with the cutouts in the motherboard then we're going to use this back plate we're going to set it down like so it might be upside down but whatever then we're going to use the four included screws pass those through and once we start locking this in the cooler should tighten down to the cpu get that mounting pressure we're looking for and once things are good and tight go ahead and flip the motherboard back over you should have a pretty solid looking low profile cooler installed this is actually um not the side of the board that i thought the cable would be coming out of but i think this might work if we can kind of route the cable along the side here and then it'll connect into the cpu fan header right here nice you can see just how low profile this cooler actually is it barely exceeds the height of this rear i o back plate that azerbait's integrated into this board so looking really nice going to be perfect for most itx kind of small form factor builds out there now we can install the motherboard and you can actually just slide it in from the top the rear i o shield is integrated so i need to worry about that and the board will sit yep just like that and we're going to lock it down with some screws now i did forget one important piece of this puzzle that is a storage drive i made note of it earlier in the video we're just going to stick with m.2 drives here i have an nvme uh gen4 drive it's an mp600 from corsair that i'm going to install i think i'm just going to use the corsair heatsink to be honest there's really no advantage going with the stock one included with the motherboard instead so we're going to slide that in and then we'll get a hold of that little screw there and we'll just leave it like that next we're going to tackle front i o and this mess of cables we're going to try to cable manage this stuff as we go because i i'm just kind of yeah a bit concerned about space we'll probably have a little bit of it up here now that we're not going with the aio but still you don't want a rat's nest in front of the only intake fan we're gonna have in this system and i'd say that looks pretty good now we're gonna install the power supply well uh houston we've we've got a bit of a problem here obviously sfx dimensions are way different than atx dimensions this case only supports atx style power supplies and this is way too small for that so this sfx power supply is actually really really great considering its size 750 watts 80 plus platinum rated it's fully modular which is which is really cool but you know obviously you can't use this power supply without an adapter and there is no adapter included in the power supplies box nor is there one included in the case box though i'd expect it less from the case more so in the power supply box thankfully though i did have an extra bracket from an old corsair sfx power supply because corsair includes them by default and i didn't use it in the build that that power supply went into so we can use it here it's just um it's just a bit of a shame that it's not included in the silverstone box and silverstone sent both of these units expecting them to be combined right paired together i'm not sure how they thought we were going to pull that off without a bracket but i have emailed them i'll put a little note somewhere in the video with their response hopefully if they weren't originally including brackets with this this suspects power supply they will in the future because um i think it's important that you have that versatility in case you want to move this from an itx build to an atx build in the future and here we go once the bracket's installed it's pretty straightforward install from the top the power supply is going to be pulling in air from the top the top is ventilated and it will exhaust it obviously out the rear so it would be a rather isolated system it shouldn't affect temperatures too much from our cpu because we still have a good bit of our air cooler down here that's exposed and it'll be getting most of its air from the front of the case anyway because we'll have one large fan here set to intake to pull in fresh air from the front i do think it was a good idea to go with an sfx power supply though for this particular case just because we're going to have a bit of excess cabling and um we're not going to want all that to kind of get in the way of that intake fan at the front so you know if you can go the smaller power supply have that smaller footprint you'll have a bit more space to work with of course our car is going to take up this space here uh closer to the camera so we're gonna have to kind of just i don't know i will try to keep the cables up here although i'm not sure that's gonna be possible there's no mounting points or anything up here but um you know the less cabling the better the less of it gets in the way of that airflow coming in now since we're using an nvme drive we don't need any extra cables apart from the 8-pin eps the dual 6 plus 2 pins supplemental pcie power and 24 pin so just three cables running from the power supply here quite nice we'll run this cable into the cpu header here at the top and we'll be good to go now at this point i do want to test fit the graphics card we actually have the front to intake fan to install and that's pretty much it apart from that in the graphics card we're going to be finished with this build so it's been moving very nicely but i have detached the front panel from the chassis just so we have a bit more breathing room for this card because yeah as you can see we're gonna we're gonna need it so i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking it'll fit um i don't i don't know for sure but i if i had a wager i'd say we can get it to fit okay so the card is installed now and we're going to go about reinstalling the front look at that look at that that this this chassis is made for this 2080 super this is just a beautiful fit i know you can't really tell but there is maybe uh an eighth of an inch that's probably i would say a few a few millimeters that's all we've got folks that's it that's the clearance it actually extends past the frame itself there is luckily a bit of space between the frame and the front panel and that's where the end of that graphics card is resting nicely so very very happy to see that that actually worked and one of the last things to do and install this front intake fan i'm going to stick with noxua here because with knoxville for the cpu cooler and this fan in particular runs extremely quiet not too concerned about how it looks because well you're not going to be able to see it through the front panel and last up here connecting supplemental pci power to the graphics card so we've got one eight pin it's gonna go right on the very corner and then the second six pin this one should be pretty easy all right there we go tuck this extra six pin underneath and we should probably do something about this extra cabling just a consequence again if such a compact case you're gonna have a bit of excess and you're gonna wanna cable manage this because you don't want any of these getting snagged in either the front intake fan or the cpu fan and here she is i am actually surprised by how much space we have left over we definitely could have fit uh that 120 io in here in hindsight we did have you know a bit of extra space to bend those tubes probably would have been a bit weird looking uh but we could have made it happen i'm not really surprised silverstone said it could be done obviously they know their components the only issue though with that is that an aio is a closed system right so it's designed to only cool one specific thing and as a result we wouldn't have any active cooling at all on our mosfets vrm power delivery setup on the motherboard and if we do a bit of overclocking we obviously want some degree of cooling there and we wouldn't really have that with just one intake fan blowing in hot air i mean you would any kind of air movement is a good thing especially in these smaller cases but having a fan actively blowing air fresh air down onto the board is a good thing so i think in hindsight i'm glad that despite knowing we could have fit the aio in here we went with the conventional air cooler a top flow air cooler instead a few moments later i am stupid i am stupid i just realized that this 2080 super does not have hdmi 2.1 ports and that's kind of needed for 4k 120 hertz via hdmi and the problem is the lg oled tv we're going to be showcasing in a future video only has hdmi ports most modern tvs don't have display ports it's just not uh it's not as popular connection standard in the tv space and we talked about that in a dedicated video anyway the 20-day super isn't going to work um there is the possibility of being able to like adapt it you can go from displayport 1.4 via adapter to hdmi 2.1 but there are only like one or two options available right now on amazon and none of them are going to get here in time for the video on top of that the reviews are kind of sketchy that's just kind of a nightmare to deal with i'd rather have native hdmi 2.1 support the only card that i have with hdmi 2.1 ports that will fit in this case ironically is an rx 6800xt reference card or whatever they whatever they call this this is not what i expected to work i i thought this card would be too big considering it has three fairly large fans and our 2080 super only has two but this is actually almost identical in terms of length to the 2080 super which means it should in theory at least on paper fit in here sorry my kids have friends over right now and it's because i'm having to film this section of the video a bit later so we're going to swap this card out for this one real quick and we'll reinstall drivers and hopefully be good to go sorry about that you know what i just realized the 6900 xt uses essentially the same cooler as the 6800xt and i have both i've been sitting on both for a long time just waiting to use these reference cards for something i thought about giving them away but i like to keep the founders or reference cards direct from nvidia and amd just for recursive testing i think it's nice to have at least one card of each launch to kind of fall back on if i ever need to gather some new data with new drivers or whatever so that's why i've kept these two but i mean we might as well use the 6900xt if it if it'll fit right i mean they're the same size card same size cooler so yeah let's go big or go home now quick note about power supply is i know technically the amd recommends an 850 watt unit for the 6900 xt and a 750 watt for the 6800 xt so you're like greg oh what are you doing you're breaking the rules i think it will still be fine if i notice any issues if the you know system randomly shuts off or what have you can always drop back down to the 600 xt but i think that the additional 100 watt headroom that amd wants you to have is for those kind of like intermittent power spikes that the 6900 xt probably has uh to a greater extent than the 6800 xt because it's ideally a and it's a better bin chip in the end right um so it would be ideal to have a higher wattage unit to account for those uh sharper fluctuations in power uh power draw but i think that 750 watt is still enough we're not going to be doing any like crazy overclocking or anything with the 5600 xt which already sips on power so i think that we have enough headroom for the graphics card we'll see i'll let you know in a few months if anything blows up so we're going to disconnect pcie cables and we've got these three screws at the rear the card should just slide you know what i need to disconnect the front panel as well so that we have a bit more room to shimmy this thing out and i guess while we're here we should also slide in the new card ah will it fit this this i'm i'm a little less sure about this one um why does this seem so much why does it seem so much bigger it it should should fit oh you know you know what it is ah we might have to cut this case a bit dammit yeah this isn't gonna work oh man this sucks i thought uh we'll just oh this is so cringe yeah i think it's stuck it ain't going any further okay we gotta pull it back out abort mission abort mission and one haircut later i have the rx 6800 reference card that i needed uh to make this work it took me well i had to actually drive to my brother's house to pick this up i had this in his system so i upgraded his to a 60 i just put the 6900 xt in his rig uh so a delightful upgrade for him and i have a card that is now thin enough to fit in the silverstone case so if you look at both the 600 xt here on my right hand and the 6800 side by side you can see that the 600xt is slightly thicker top to bottom and that's because this is classified technically as a two slot card or sorry two and a half slot card whereas the 6800 is a true two slot card so the height of the shroud doesn't exceed uh the height of the rare io bracket here at the rear so that's important of course the height clearance was what was keeping us from installing the 6800 xt to begin with or the 6900 xt anyway too many too many cards to deal with here but yeah let's go ahead and get this thing installed and you know what um this actually works out i guess from a performance perspective as well because the 6800 i mean just the vanilla 600 non-xt variant of uh this new lineup of cards from amd is much more powerful than the 2080 super we were going with to be uh to begin with so look at that clips right in no clearance issues left to right so that's an important note here this sg-13b c whatever silverstone calls this this is only good for true two slot cards if it is if your card is wider than a true two slot even by a few millimeters it will not fit the clearances aren't there you might be able to get away with it if it's a shorter card front to back but the thickness tolerances here are very tight does this feel like deja vu to anyone else i really feel like i've done this before and we'll get these pcie cables connected shouldn't be any issues at all with power delivery now that we've dropped down to a 6800 so the 750 watt in here should be more than enough i really should have connected the other cable first also i've got to say wow this triple fan layout really looks good in this compact case and we'll slide the cover back on somehow some some way there's a way to do this there we go that that seems a little bit more like it i am dduing right now i should have done that before i installed the new card but uh yeah do as i say not as i do and just like that we are back online thank you all very much for watching this far in the video i know this probably isn't how you expect it to end um this was just i mean it's something i really didn't expect going into it and you always tend to have at least one or two surprises when it comes to uh small form factor builds which i like i mean it's you know it adds an extra bit of depth an extra layer to the pc building process because you have to think a bit outside the box no pun intended and um you know it's it's one of those things to be very careful about if you buy a bunch of hardware expecting it all to work you know just fine only to realize that there are actual physical clearance issues you can't really do anything about those unless you're willing to cut through your case and dremel things and yeah i don't think you'd want to dremel your card but your case you'd surely have to to make some of these larger cards work in in builds like these so just be very wary of that you know if anything this video is a testament to how difficult it can be at times and that's just that's my fault lack of preparation i didn't really think this through um and also the the fact that i completely skipped over the hdmi 2.1 requirement for 4k 120 oled tvs via hdmi so yeah that's all fixed now thankfully the 6800 has hdmi 2.1 support and we're going to be able to pair that with an ultra high speed hdmi cable you don't want to be limited by your cable either and there are certain cable requirements so there's there's high speed hdmi and then there's ultra high speed hdmi and ultra is uh the standard that you'll need to get that full 4k 120 hertz i think up to like 8k 60 some compression and 10k even so hdmi can actually do quite a bit now but the standard for most computers i mean the the one that's very reliable has a lot of breathing room is still displayport it's just unfortunate that tvs haven't taken on that trend yet uh so anyway i'm gonna get this thing uh yeah all lined up and we're gonna put it underneath the tv and time for that lg video if you guys like this video thumbs up be sure to subscribe leave a comment down below let me know how silly i am and i'll catch you the next one my name is greg thanks for building with meso silverstone sent over a couple of boxes for an ultra portable well i don't have ultra portable technically qualified this is not the smallest case on the market no one's claiming that it is uh super portable let's go with that it is going to be a very compact case and it will house some pretty powerful components and it will be going in my living room downstairs i haven't had a pc down there for a very long time and now that we've been hooked up with an lg oled tv which will be talking about a sponsored video coming up soon on the channel i wanted to build something that you know could drive that kind of like 4k 120 hertz refresh rate that you get on a lot of these modern oled panels so silverstone was gracious enough to send over a very small case that will fit in my entertainment setup now as well as a power supply and an aio we've got other parts i'm going to show you in a second it's going to be a pretty beefy build stay with me to get rid of that annoying activation watermark hop on over to vip std key and purchase a windows 10 pro oem key for fractions of the price of retail just use a secure payment method like paypal receive your key in seconds and activate your os here bye bye watermark and be sure to use our new offer code skgs for a sweet discount so this here is the silverstone sg13b c i'm pretty sure that's the full name of this particular model and the dash c is referring to the inclusion of a type c port down here at the bottom right if your motherboard doesn't support type c and you want two type a ports they have that variant i believe as well it's a very subdued just clean looking cube style itx case and it'll look really good in our entertainment setup mixed in with our receiver down below and our one of my center speakers with a clip center speaker off to the right in this configure and i really like the way that this case blends in with that hardware so somehow we're supposed to be able to fit an itx motherboard in here a full size graphics card two slot uh a 120mm aio and a full size what looks like full size power supply standard length psu silverstone says it can be done i'm not sure i did panic kind of last minute asked noctua to send out a low profile am4 cooler just in case thank you nacho for sending that out if i don't end up using it here obviously it'll be in some other build at some point in the channel so with the case out of the way let's talk about what else we're gonna we're gonna attempt to fit in here i i honestly i'm not seeing it but um apparently it can be done so let's give it a shot so this is it um yeah this is this is everything this seems kind of underwhelming these boxes are fairly small but it makes sense it's a small form factor build uh what do you know so we've got a ryzen 5 5600x in here so the latest m3 architecture is going to be great for driving those higher refresh rates that we can get with our with our display it's gonna be 120 yards display remember so up to 120 fps we want to try to cap that out you don't want to be limited by your cpu so that's why i feel the zen three here we have an asrock phantom b550 gaming itx this i have been sitting on for a good while sorry azeroth thanks for being patient with me it's finally going into the build that i intended it to go into in the first place uh we have a pf120 here this is a 120 mil all-in-one liquid cooler again this is the thing that i'm not too sure about yet we'll see if it fits we also have a 750 watt power supply over there from silverstone i'm not sure if that's that's sfx yeah so i think the case it looks like the case supports full on like atx power supplies but uh going with the sfx form factor will probably give us a bit more space which i'm sure silverstone accounted for so that's cool you have 32 gigs two 16 gig sticks 3600 megahertz apiece so that's really good for zen3 and then the last enigma this graphics card so the card when installed in this case will actually sit like so from front to back so we're going to be depth dependent here the card will slot directly into the itx motherboard which is nice we don't need a riser cable but here's the issue so if i line up the card with the rear slots i'm pretty sure we can't fill in space past this line here where the front panel is divided from the remainder of the chassis and we are right there on the edge folks so this 2080 super might just be a tad too big and if that is the case i do have an fe 2060 though i'm not sure if 2016 is gonna be able to drive a 4k 120 hertz display maybe with dlss that's possible but then we'll be limited to games that support dlss so i'm not entirely sure there but that is an option i don't have many cards to play with i don't have aibs sending me cards every other day kind of in the same boat as a lot of you i don't have nvidia sending me review samples like they send a lot of other channels as well i don't know if they particularly like the things that we have to say about the current state of things that's probably why but uh yeah at the end of the day i only have a few cards to play with and i'm really hoping that either the 2080 super or the 2060 work because of that dls's option uh when it comes to 4k gaming so let's go ahead and just uh just give it a shot i'm just going to start building in here and we'll see what happens so let's kick things off with the motherboard and cpu as usual now this board here does have type c support which is nice it also looks super duper sexy now this being a zn3 chip we want to make sure that the motherboard in question has the appropriate bios installed otherwise we won't get a post i've double checked that i actually had a previous cpu that i used to make sure that it would post with the newest one check the bios revision and we're good to go now if you're new to this whole pc building thing cpu installation is super simple there's going to be a white arrow on the board that's going to be our reference point there's also a golden arrow on the cpu you can see it right there at the bottom we want to align these two so they're facing the same direction we're going to lift the retention off we're using an am4 stock it's actually pretty simple compared to the lga sockets we're going to drop the cpu down it's going to slot into the little pinholes there in the socket itself we've got the golden triangle facing the same direction as the white arrow lower the retention arm back down and we're good to go next we're gonna install ram pull back on these two locks here we've got the notch in the middle we're gonna align with the notch in each of the dimms and uh yeah pretty straightforward start with one side push hard click push on the other side you hear that click you're good to go same thing for the second module right next to it click and click so these here are the internals of the silverstone case you can see it's fairly hollow in here however we do not have any access to the underside of the motherboard once it's installed so we'll need to get our aio mounting gear situated on the motherboard first before we secure everything to the chassis um okay so i'm struggling to visualize the whole aio aspect of this here we've got so much tubulin look at this all this here we don't need it right i mean this is to accommodate obviously mid towers and the like you want long enough tubes to reach the the socket but in a small form factor case like this this excess tubing just gets in the way of everything else and we're already going to be tight on space as it is i've tried with tubes on this side um i'm i'm not even sure if we can mount it tube side up top because we have the front facing down right now but uh we i mean the these cables are in the way um so i yeah i you know we could it's something we could we could probably pull off if we kept fiddling with it but honestly the tube length alone is not um not looking too good right now i'm kind of upset about that so i think we're just going to ditch the i o and we're going to use the noctua cooler why not so this here is the noctua nhl9a it is designed specifically for the am4 socket which means that it will not work to my knowledge with any other socket layout out there the way to design these coolers is that the hardware spacing is supposed to accommodate the cutouts for a specific socket type uh and and there's no way to interchange these because this cooler is already so compact adding modularity typically adds a bit of you know fluff to the overall dimensions of the cooler so this is designed specifically i said for am4 and if you want the intel equivalent you'll have to search for the l9 i think they call it the l9i or just type in nhl9 intel and you'll see there's also an lj1150x version of this cooler for intel builds check out the packaging i mean that that in and of itself has sold me noctua did a great job with this uh packaging detail here and i think we should be pretty much yeah so this is just gonna screw directly into the stock back plate that you'll get with your am4 motherboard never mind ignore what i just said they give us their own mounting hardware to use no big deal so what we're going to do is start with the cooler upside down i've got thermal paste applied on top of the cpu it looks rather messy but just roll with it we're going to flip the motherboard upside down and align the threads on the cooler with the cutouts in the motherboard then we're going to use this back plate we're going to set it down like so it might be upside down but whatever then we're going to use the four included screws pass those through and once we start locking this in the cooler should tighten down to the cpu get that mounting pressure we're looking for and once things are good and tight go ahead and flip the motherboard back over you should have a pretty solid looking low profile cooler installed this is actually um not the side of the board that i thought the cable would be coming out of but i think this might work if we can kind of route the cable along the side here and then it'll connect into the cpu fan header right here nice you can see just how low profile this cooler actually is it barely exceeds the height of this rear i o back plate that azerbait's integrated into this board so looking really nice going to be perfect for most itx kind of small form factor builds out there now we can install the motherboard and you can actually just slide it in from the top the rear i o shield is integrated so i need to worry about that and the board will sit yep just like that and we're going to lock it down with some screws now i did forget one important piece of this puzzle that is a storage drive i made note of it earlier in the video we're just going to stick with m.2 drives here i have an nvme uh gen4 drive it's an mp600 from corsair that i'm going to install i think i'm just going to use the corsair heatsink to be honest there's really no advantage going with the stock one included with the motherboard instead so we're going to slide that in and then we'll get a hold of that little screw there and we'll just leave it like that next we're going to tackle front i o and this mess of cables we're going to try to cable manage this stuff as we go because i i'm just kind of yeah a bit concerned about space we'll probably have a little bit of it up here now that we're not going with the aio but still you don't want a rat's nest in front of the only intake fan we're gonna have in this system and i'd say that looks pretty good now we're gonna install the power supply well uh houston we've we've got a bit of a problem here obviously sfx dimensions are way different than atx dimensions this case only supports atx style power supplies and this is way too small for that so this sfx power supply is actually really really great considering its size 750 watts 80 plus platinum rated it's fully modular which is which is really cool but you know obviously you can't use this power supply without an adapter and there is no adapter included in the power supplies box nor is there one included in the case box though i'd expect it less from the case more so in the power supply box thankfully though i did have an extra bracket from an old corsair sfx power supply because corsair includes them by default and i didn't use it in the build that that power supply went into so we can use it here it's just um it's just a bit of a shame that it's not included in the silverstone box and silverstone sent both of these units expecting them to be combined right paired together i'm not sure how they thought we were going to pull that off without a bracket but i have emailed them i'll put a little note somewhere in the video with their response hopefully if they weren't originally including brackets with this this suspects power supply they will in the future because um i think it's important that you have that versatility in case you want to move this from an itx build to an atx build in the future and here we go once the bracket's installed it's pretty straightforward install from the top the power supply is going to be pulling in air from the top the top is ventilated and it will exhaust it obviously out the rear so it would be a rather isolated system it shouldn't affect temperatures too much from our cpu because we still have a good bit of our air cooler down here that's exposed and it'll be getting most of its air from the front of the case anyway because we'll have one large fan here set to intake to pull in fresh air from the front i do think it was a good idea to go with an sfx power supply though for this particular case just because we're going to have a bit of excess cabling and um we're not going to want all that to kind of get in the way of that intake fan at the front so you know if you can go the smaller power supply have that smaller footprint you'll have a bit more space to work with of course our car is going to take up this space here uh closer to the camera so we're gonna have to kind of just i don't know i will try to keep the cables up here although i'm not sure that's gonna be possible there's no mounting points or anything up here but um you know the less cabling the better the less of it gets in the way of that airflow coming in now since we're using an nvme drive we don't need any extra cables apart from the 8-pin eps the dual 6 plus 2 pins supplemental pcie power and 24 pin so just three cables running from the power supply here quite nice we'll run this cable into the cpu header here at the top and we'll be good to go now at this point i do want to test fit the graphics card we actually have the front to intake fan to install and that's pretty much it apart from that in the graphics card we're going to be finished with this build so it's been moving very nicely but i have detached the front panel from the chassis just so we have a bit more breathing room for this card because yeah as you can see we're gonna we're gonna need it so i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking it'll fit um i don't i don't know for sure but i if i had a wager i'd say we can get it to fit okay so the card is installed now and we're going to go about reinstalling the front look at that look at that that this this chassis is made for this 2080 super this is just a beautiful fit i know you can't really tell but there is maybe uh an eighth of an inch that's probably i would say a few a few millimeters that's all we've got folks that's it that's the clearance it actually extends past the frame itself there is luckily a bit of space between the frame and the front panel and that's where the end of that graphics card is resting nicely so very very happy to see that that actually worked and one of the last things to do and install this front intake fan i'm going to stick with noxua here because with knoxville for the cpu cooler and this fan in particular runs extremely quiet not too concerned about how it looks because well you're not going to be able to see it through the front panel and last up here connecting supplemental pci power to the graphics card so we've got one eight pin it's gonna go right on the very corner and then the second six pin this one should be pretty easy all right there we go tuck this extra six pin underneath and we should probably do something about this extra cabling just a consequence again if such a compact case you're gonna have a bit of excess and you're gonna wanna cable manage this because you don't want any of these getting snagged in either the front intake fan or the cpu fan and here she is i am actually surprised by how much space we have left over we definitely could have fit uh that 120 io in here in hindsight we did have you know a bit of extra space to bend those tubes probably would have been a bit weird looking uh but we could have made it happen i'm not really surprised silverstone said it could be done obviously they know their components the only issue though with that is that an aio is a closed system right so it's designed to only cool one specific thing and as a result we wouldn't have any active cooling at all on our mosfets vrm power delivery setup on the motherboard and if we do a bit of overclocking we obviously want some degree of cooling there and we wouldn't really have that with just one intake fan blowing in hot air i mean you would any kind of air movement is a good thing especially in these smaller cases but having a fan actively blowing air fresh air down onto the board is a good thing so i think in hindsight i'm glad that despite knowing we could have fit the aio in here we went with the conventional air cooler a top flow air cooler instead a few moments later i am stupid i am stupid i just realized that this 2080 super does not have hdmi 2.1 ports and that's kind of needed for 4k 120 hertz via hdmi and the problem is the lg oled tv we're going to be showcasing in a future video only has hdmi ports most modern tvs don't have display ports it's just not uh it's not as popular connection standard in the tv space and we talked about that in a dedicated video anyway the 20-day super isn't going to work um there is the possibility of being able to like adapt it you can go from displayport 1.4 via adapter to hdmi 2.1 but there are only like one or two options available right now on amazon and none of them are going to get here in time for the video on top of that the reviews are kind of sketchy that's just kind of a nightmare to deal with i'd rather have native hdmi 2.1 support the only card that i have with hdmi 2.1 ports that will fit in this case ironically is an rx 6800xt reference card or whatever they whatever they call this this is not what i expected to work i i thought this card would be too big considering it has three fairly large fans and our 2080 super only has two but this is actually almost identical in terms of length to the 2080 super which means it should in theory at least on paper fit in here sorry my kids have friends over right now and it's because i'm having to film this section of the video a bit later so we're going to swap this card out for this one real quick and we'll reinstall drivers and hopefully be good to go sorry about that you know what i just realized the 6900 xt uses essentially the same cooler as the 6800xt and i have both i've been sitting on both for a long time just waiting to use these reference cards for something i thought about giving them away but i like to keep the founders or reference cards direct from nvidia and amd just for recursive testing i think it's nice to have at least one card of each launch to kind of fall back on if i ever need to gather some new data with new drivers or whatever so that's why i've kept these two but i mean we might as well use the 6900xt if it if it'll fit right i mean they're the same size card same size cooler so yeah let's go big or go home now quick note about power supply is i know technically the amd recommends an 850 watt unit for the 6900 xt and a 750 watt for the 6800 xt so you're like greg oh what are you doing you're breaking the rules i think it will still be fine if i notice any issues if the you know system randomly shuts off or what have you can always drop back down to the 600 xt but i think that the additional 100 watt headroom that amd wants you to have is for those kind of like intermittent power spikes that the 6900 xt probably has uh to a greater extent than the 6800 xt because it's ideally a and it's a better bin chip in the end right um so it would be ideal to have a higher wattage unit to account for those uh sharper fluctuations in power uh power draw but i think that 750 watt is still enough we're not going to be doing any like crazy overclocking or anything with the 5600 xt which already sips on power so i think that we have enough headroom for the graphics card we'll see i'll let you know in a few months if anything blows up so we're going to disconnect pcie cables and we've got these three screws at the rear the card should just slide you know what i need to disconnect the front panel as well so that we have a bit more room to shimmy this thing out and i guess while we're here we should also slide in the new card ah will it fit this this i'm i'm a little less sure about this one um why does this seem so much why does it seem so much bigger it it should should fit oh you know you know what it is ah we might have to cut this case a bit dammit yeah this isn't gonna work oh man this sucks i thought uh we'll just oh this is so cringe yeah i think it's stuck it ain't going any further okay we gotta pull it back out abort mission abort mission and one haircut later i have the rx 6800 reference card that i needed uh to make this work it took me well i had to actually drive to my brother's house to pick this up i had this in his system so i upgraded his to a 60 i just put the 6900 xt in his rig uh so a delightful upgrade for him and i have a card that is now thin enough to fit in the silverstone case so if you look at both the 600 xt here on my right hand and the 6800 side by side you can see that the 600xt is slightly thicker top to bottom and that's because this is classified technically as a two slot card or sorry two and a half slot card whereas the 6800 is a true two slot card so the height of the shroud doesn't exceed uh the height of the rare io bracket here at the rear so that's important of course the height clearance was what was keeping us from installing the 6800 xt to begin with or the 6900 xt anyway too many too many cards to deal with here but yeah let's go ahead and get this thing installed and you know what um this actually works out i guess from a performance perspective as well because the 6800 i mean just the vanilla 600 non-xt variant of uh this new lineup of cards from amd is much more powerful than the 2080 super we were going with to be uh to begin with so look at that clips right in no clearance issues left to right so that's an important note here this sg-13b c whatever silverstone calls this this is only good for true two slot cards if it is if your card is wider than a true two slot even by a few millimeters it will not fit the clearances aren't there you might be able to get away with it if it's a shorter card front to back but the thickness tolerances here are very tight does this feel like deja vu to anyone else i really feel like i've done this before and we'll get these pcie cables connected shouldn't be any issues at all with power delivery now that we've dropped down to a 6800 so the 750 watt in here should be more than enough i really should have connected the other cable first also i've got to say wow this triple fan layout really looks good in this compact case and we'll slide the cover back on somehow some some way there's a way to do this there we go that that seems a little bit more like it i am dduing right now i should have done that before i installed the new card but uh yeah do as i say not as i do and just like that we are back online thank you all very much for watching this far in the video i know this probably isn't how you expect it to end um this was just i mean it's something i really didn't expect going into it and you always tend to have at least one or two surprises when it comes to uh small form factor builds which i like i mean it's you know it adds an extra bit of depth an extra layer to the pc building process because you have to think a bit outside the box no pun intended and um you know it's it's one of those things to be very careful about if you buy a bunch of hardware expecting it all to work you know just fine only to realize that there are actual physical clearance issues you can't really do anything about those unless you're willing to cut through your case and dremel things and yeah i don't think you'd want to dremel your card but your case you'd surely have to to make some of these larger cards work in in builds like these so just be very wary of that you know if anything this video is a testament to how difficult it can be at times and that's just that's my fault lack of preparation i didn't really think this through um and also the the fact that i completely skipped over the hdmi 2.1 requirement for 4k 120 oled tvs via hdmi so yeah that's all fixed now thankfully the 6800 has hdmi 2.1 support and we're going to be able to pair that with an ultra high speed hdmi cable you don't want to be limited by your cable either and there are certain cable requirements so there's there's high speed hdmi and then there's ultra high speed hdmi and ultra is uh the standard that you'll need to get that full 4k 120 hertz i think up to like 8k 60 some compression and 10k even so hdmi can actually do quite a bit now but the standard for most computers i mean the the one that's very reliable has a lot of breathing room is still displayport it's just unfortunate that tvs haven't taken on that trend yet uh so anyway i'm gonna get this thing uh yeah all lined up and we're gonna put it underneath the tv and time for that lg video if you guys like this video thumbs up be sure to subscribe leave a comment down below let me know how silly i am and i'll catch you the next one my name is greg thanks for building with meso silverstone sent over a couple of boxes for an ultra portable well i don't have ultra portable technically qualified this is not the smallest case on the market no one's claiming that it is uh super portable let's go with that it is going to be a very compact case and it will house some pretty powerful components and it will be going in my living room downstairs i haven't had a pc down there for a very long time and now that we've been hooked up with an lg oled tv which will be talking about a sponsored video coming up soon on the channel i wanted to build something that you know could drive that kind of like 4k 120 hertz refresh rate that you get on a lot of these modern oled panels so silverstone was gracious enough to send over a very small case that will fit in my entertainment setup now as well as a power supply and an aio we've got other parts i'm going to show you in a second it's going to be a pretty beefy build stay with me to get rid of that annoying activation watermark hop on over to vip std key and purchase a windows 10 pro oem key for fractions of the price of retail just use a secure payment method like paypal receive your key in seconds and activate your os here bye bye watermark and be sure to use our new offer code skgs for a sweet discount so this here is the silverstone sg13b c i'm pretty sure that's the full name of this particular model and the dash c is referring to the inclusion of a type c port down here at the bottom right if your motherboard doesn't support type c and you want two type a ports they have that variant i believe as well it's a very subdued just clean looking cube style itx case and it'll look really good in our entertainment setup mixed in with our receiver down below and our one of my center speakers with a clip center speaker off to the right in this configure and i really like the way that this case blends in with that hardware so somehow we're supposed to be able to fit an itx motherboard in here a full size graphics card two slot uh a 120mm aio and a full size what looks like full size power supply standard length psu silverstone says it can be done i'm not sure i did panic kind of last minute asked noctua to send out a low profile am4 cooler just in case thank you nacho for sending that out if i don't end up using it here obviously it'll be in some other build at some point in the channel so with the case out of the way let's talk about what else we're gonna we're gonna attempt to fit in here i i honestly i'm not seeing it but um apparently it can be done so let's give it a shot so this is it um yeah this is this is everything this seems kind of underwhelming these boxes are fairly small but it makes sense it's a small form factor build uh what do you know so we've got a ryzen 5 5600x in here so the latest m3 architecture is going to be great for driving those higher refresh rates that we can get with our with our display it's gonna be 120 yards display remember so up to 120 fps we want to try to cap that out you don't want to be limited by your cpu so that's why i feel the zen three here we have an asrock phantom b550 gaming itx this i have been sitting on for a good while sorry azeroth thanks for being patient with me it's finally going into the build that i intended it to go into in the first place uh we have a pf120 here this is a 120 mil all-in-one liquid cooler again this is the thing that i'm not too sure about yet we'll see if it fits we also have a 750 watt power supply over there from silverstone i'm not sure if that's that's sfx yeah so i think the case it looks like the case supports full on like atx power supplies but uh going with the sfx form factor will probably give us a bit more space which i'm sure silverstone accounted for so that's cool you have 32 gigs two 16 gig sticks 3600 megahertz apiece so that's really good for zen3 and then the last enigma this graphics card so the card when installed in this case will actually sit like so from front to back so we're going to be depth dependent here the card will slot directly into the itx motherboard which is nice we don't need a riser cable but here's the issue so if i line up the card with the rear slots i'm pretty sure we can't fill in space past this line here where the front panel is divided from the remainder of the chassis and we are right there on the edge folks so this 2080 super might just be a tad too big and if that is the case i do have an fe 2060 though i'm not sure if 2016 is gonna be able to drive a 4k 120 hertz display maybe with dlss that's possible but then we'll be limited to games that support dlss so i'm not entirely sure there but that is an option i don't have many cards to play with i don't have aibs sending me cards every other day kind of in the same boat as a lot of you i don't have nvidia sending me review samples like they send a lot of other channels as well i don't know if they particularly like the things that we have to say about the current state of things that's probably why but uh yeah at the end of the day i only have a few cards to play with and i'm really hoping that either the 2080 super or the 2060 work because of that dls's option uh when it comes to 4k gaming so let's go ahead and just uh just give it a shot i'm just going to start building in here and we'll see what happens so let's kick things off with the motherboard and cpu as usual now this board here does have type c support which is nice it also looks super duper sexy now this being a zn3 chip we want to make sure that the motherboard in question has the appropriate bios installed otherwise we won't get a post i've double checked that i actually had a previous cpu that i used to make sure that it would post with the newest one check the bios revision and we're good to go now if you're new to this whole pc building thing cpu installation is super simple there's going to be a white arrow on the board that's going to be our reference point there's also a golden arrow on the cpu you can see it right there at the bottom we want to align these two so they're facing the same direction we're going to lift the retention off we're using an am4 stock it's actually pretty simple compared to the lga sockets we're going to drop the cpu down it's going to slot into the little pinholes there in the socket itself we've got the golden triangle facing the same direction as the white arrow lower the retention arm back down and we're good to go next we're gonna install ram pull back on these two locks here we've got the notch in the middle we're gonna align with the notch in each of the dimms and uh yeah pretty straightforward start with one side push hard click push on the other side you hear that click you're good to go same thing for the second module right next to it click and click so these here are the internals of the silverstone case you can see it's fairly hollow in here however we do not have any access to the underside of the motherboard once it's installed so we'll need to get our aio mounting gear situated on the motherboard first before we secure everything to the chassis um okay so i'm struggling to visualize the whole aio aspect of this here we've got so much tubulin look at this all this here we don't need it right i mean this is to accommodate obviously mid towers and the like you want long enough tubes to reach the the socket but in a small form factor case like this this excess tubing just gets in the way of everything else and we're already going to be tight on space as it is i've tried with tubes on this side um i'm i'm not even sure if we can mount it tube side up top because we have the front facing down right now but uh we i mean the these cables are in the way um so i yeah i you know we could it's something we could we could probably pull off if we kept fiddling with it but honestly the tube length alone is not um not looking too good right now i'm kind of upset about that so i think we're just going to ditch the i o and we're going to use the noctua cooler why not so this here is the noctua nhl9a it is designed specifically for the am4 socket which means that it will not work to my knowledge with any other socket layout out there the way to design these coolers is that the hardware spacing is supposed to accommodate the cutouts for a specific socket type uh and and there's no way to interchange these because this cooler is already so compact adding modularity typically adds a bit of you know fluff to the overall dimensions of the cooler so this is designed specifically i said for am4 and if you want the intel equivalent you'll have to search for the l9 i think they call it the l9i or just type in nhl9 intel and you'll see there's also an lj1150x version of this cooler for intel builds check out the packaging i mean that that in and of itself has sold me noctua did a great job with this uh packaging detail here and i think we should be pretty much yeah so this is just gonna screw directly into the stock back plate that you'll get with your am4 motherboard never mind ignore what i just said they give us their own mounting hardware to use no big deal so what we're going to do is start with the cooler upside down i've got thermal paste applied on top of the cpu it looks rather messy but just roll with it we're going to flip the motherboard upside down and align the threads on the cooler with the cutouts in the motherboard then we're going to use this back plate we're going to set it down like so it might be upside down but whatever then we're going to use the four included screws pass those through and once we start locking this in the cooler should tighten down to the cpu get that mounting pressure we're looking for and once things are good and tight go ahead and flip the motherboard back over you should have a pretty solid looking low profile cooler installed this is actually um not the side of the board that i thought the cable would be coming out of but i think this might work if we can kind of route the cable along the side here and then it'll connect into the cpu fan header right here nice you can see just how low profile this cooler actually is it barely exceeds the height of this rear i o back plate that azerbait's integrated into this board so looking really nice going to be perfect for most itx kind of small form factor builds out there now we can install the motherboard and you can actually just slide it in from the top the rear i o shield is integrated so i need to worry about that and the board will sit yep just like that and we're going to lock it down with some screws now i did forget one important piece of this puzzle that is a storage drive i made note of it earlier in the video we're just going to stick with m.2 drives here i have an nvme uh gen4 drive it's an mp600 from corsair that i'm going to install i think i'm just going to use the corsair heatsink to be honest there's really no advantage going with the stock one included with the motherboard instead so we're going to slide that in and then we'll get a hold of that little screw there and we'll just leave it like that next we're going to tackle front i o and this mess of cables we're going to try to cable manage this stuff as we go because i i'm just kind of yeah a bit concerned about space we'll probably have a little bit of it up here now that we're not going with the aio but still you don't want a rat's nest in front of the only intake fan we're gonna have in this system and i'd say that looks pretty good now we're gonna install the power supply well uh houston we've we've got a bit of a problem here obviously sfx dimensions are way different than atx dimensions this case only supports atx style power supplies and this is way too small for that so this sfx power supply is actually really really great considering its size 750 watts 80 plus platinum rated it's fully modular which is which is really cool but you know obviously you can't use this power supply without an adapter and there is no adapter included in the power supplies box nor is there one included in the case box though i'd expect it less from the case more so in the power supply box thankfully though i did have an extra bracket from an old corsair sfx power supply because corsair includes them by default and i didn't use it in the build that that power supply went into so we can use it here it's just um it's just a bit of a shame that it's not included in the silverstone box and silverstone sent both of these units expecting them to be combined right paired together i'm not sure how they thought we were going to pull that off without a bracket but i have emailed them i'll put a little note somewhere in the video with their response hopefully if they weren't originally including brackets with this this suspects power supply they will in the future because um i think it's important that you have that versatility in case you want to move this from an itx build to an atx build in the future and here we go once the bracket's installed it's pretty straightforward install from the top the power supply is going to be pulling in air from the top the top is ventilated and it will exhaust it obviously out the rear so it would be a rather isolated system it shouldn't affect temperatures too much from our cpu because we still have a good bit of our air cooler down here that's exposed and it'll be getting most of its air from the front of the case anyway because we'll have one large fan here set to intake to pull in fresh air from the front i do think it was a good idea to go with an sfx power supply though for this particular case just because we're going to have a bit of excess cabling and um we're not going to want all that to kind of get in the way of that intake fan at the front so you know if you can go the smaller power supply have that smaller footprint you'll have a bit more space to work with of course our car is going to take up this space here uh closer to the camera so we're gonna have to kind of just i don't know i will try to keep the cables up here although i'm not sure that's gonna be possible there's no mounting points or anything up here but um you know the less cabling the better the less of it gets in the way of that airflow coming in now since we're using an nvme drive we don't need any extra cables apart from the 8-pin eps the dual 6 plus 2 pins supplemental pcie power and 24 pin so just three cables running from the power supply here quite nice we'll run this cable into the cpu header here at the top and we'll be good to go now at this point i do want to test fit the graphics card we actually have the front to intake fan to install and that's pretty much it apart from that in the graphics card we're going to be finished with this build so it's been moving very nicely but i have detached the front panel from the chassis just so we have a bit more breathing room for this card because yeah as you can see we're gonna we're gonna need it so i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking it'll fit um i don't i don't know for sure but i if i had a wager i'd say we can get it to fit okay so the card is installed now and we're going to go about reinstalling the front look at that look at that that this this chassis is made for this 2080 super this is just a beautiful fit i know you can't really tell but there is maybe uh an eighth of an inch that's probably i would say a few a few millimeters that's all we've got folks that's it that's the clearance it actually extends past the frame itself there is luckily a bit of space between the frame and the front panel and that's where the end of that graphics card is resting nicely so very very happy to see that that actually worked and one of the last things to do and install this front intake fan i'm going to stick with noxua here because with knoxville for the cpu cooler and this fan in particular runs extremely quiet not too concerned about how it looks because well you're not going to be able to see it through the front panel and last up here connecting supplemental pci power to the graphics card so we've got one eight pin it's gonna go right on the very corner and then the second six pin this one should be pretty easy all right there we go tuck this extra six pin underneath and we should probably do something about this extra cabling just a consequence again if such a compact case you're gonna have a bit of excess and you're gonna wanna cable manage this because you don't want any of these getting snagged in either the front intake fan or the cpu fan and here she is i am actually surprised by how much space we have left over we definitely could have fit uh that 120 io in here in hindsight we did have you know a bit of extra space to bend those tubes probably would have been a bit weird looking uh but we could have made it happen i'm not really surprised silverstone said it could be done obviously they know their components the only issue though with that is that an aio is a closed system right so it's designed to only cool one specific thing and as a result we wouldn't have any active cooling at all on our mosfets vrm power delivery setup on the motherboard and if we do a bit of overclocking we obviously want some degree of cooling there and we wouldn't really have that with just one intake fan blowing in hot air i mean you would any kind of air movement is a good thing especially in these smaller cases but having a fan actively blowing air fresh air down onto the board is a good thing so i think in hindsight i'm glad that despite knowing we could have fit the aio in here we went with the conventional air cooler a top flow air cooler instead a few moments later i am stupid i am stupid i just realized that this 2080 super does not have hdmi 2.1 ports and that's kind of needed for 4k 120 hertz via hdmi and the problem is the lg oled tv we're going to be showcasing in a future video only has hdmi ports most modern tvs don't have display ports it's just not uh it's not as popular connection standard in the tv space and we talked about that in a dedicated video anyway the 20-day super isn't going to work um there is the possibility of being able to like adapt it you can go from displayport 1.4 via adapter to hdmi 2.1 but there are only like one or two options available right now on amazon and none of them are going to get here in time for the video on top of that the reviews are kind of sketchy that's just kind of a nightmare to deal with i'd rather have native hdmi 2.1 support the only card that i have with hdmi 2.1 ports that will fit in this case ironically is an rx 6800xt reference card or whatever they whatever they call this this is not what i expected to work i i thought this card would be too big considering it has three fairly large fans and our 2080 super only has two but this is actually almost identical in terms of length to the 2080 super which means it should in theory at least on paper fit in here sorry my kids have friends over right now and it's because i'm having to film this section of the video a bit later so we're going to swap this card out for this one real quick and we'll reinstall drivers and hopefully be good to go sorry about that you know what i just realized the 6900 xt uses essentially the same cooler as the 6800xt and i have both i've been sitting on both for a long time just waiting to use these reference cards for something i thought about giving them away but i like to keep the founders or reference cards direct from nvidia and amd just for recursive testing i think it's nice to have at least one card of each launch to kind of fall back on if i ever need to gather some new data with new drivers or whatever so that's why i've kept these two but i mean we might as well use the 6900xt if it if it'll fit right i mean they're the same size card same size cooler so yeah let's go big or go home now quick note about power supply is i know technically the amd recommends an 850 watt unit for the 6900 xt and a 750 watt for the 6800 xt so you're like greg oh what are you doing you're breaking the rules i think it will still be fine if i notice any issues if the you know system randomly shuts off or what have you can always drop back down to the 600 xt but i think that the additional 100 watt headroom that amd wants you to have is for those kind of like intermittent power spikes that the 6900 xt probably has uh to a greater extent than the 6800 xt because it's ideally a and it's a better bin chip in the end right um so it would be ideal to have a higher wattage unit to account for those uh sharper fluctuations in power uh power draw but i think that 750 watt is still enough we're not going to be doing any like crazy overclocking or anything with the 5600 xt which already sips on power so i think that we have enough headroom for the graphics card we'll see i'll let you know in a few months if anything blows up so we're going to disconnect pcie cables and we've got these three screws at the rear the card should just slide you know what i need to disconnect the front panel as well so that we have a bit more room to shimmy this thing out and i guess while we're here we should also slide in the new card ah will it fit this this i'm i'm a little less sure about this one um why does this seem so much why does it seem so much bigger it it should should fit oh you know you know what it is ah we might have to cut this case a bit dammit yeah this isn't gonna work oh man this sucks i thought uh we'll just oh this is so cringe yeah i think it's stuck it ain't going any further okay we gotta pull it back out abort mission abort mission and one haircut later i have the rx 6800 reference card that i needed uh to make this work it took me well i had to actually drive to my brother's house to pick this up i had this in his system so i upgraded his to a 60 i just put the 6900 xt in his rig uh so a delightful upgrade for him and i have a card that is now thin enough to fit in the silverstone case so if you look at both the 600 xt here on my right hand and the 6800 side by side you can see that the 600xt is slightly thicker top to bottom and that's because this is classified technically as a two slot card or sorry two and a half slot card whereas the 6800 is a true two slot card so the height of the shroud doesn't exceed uh the height of the rare io bracket here at the rear so that's important of course the height clearance was what was keeping us from installing the 6800 xt to begin with or the 6900 xt anyway too many too many cards to deal with here but yeah let's go ahead and get this thing installed and you know what um this actually works out i guess from a performance perspective as well because the 6800 i mean just the vanilla 600 non-xt variant of uh this new lineup of cards from amd is much more powerful than the 2080 super we were going with to be uh to begin with so look at that clips right in no clearance issues left to right so that's an important note here this sg-13b c whatever silverstone calls this this is only good for true two slot cards if it is if your card is wider than a true two slot even by a few millimeters it will not fit the clearances aren't there you might be able to get away with it if it's a shorter card front to back but the thickness tolerances here are very tight does this feel like deja vu to anyone else i really feel like i've done this before and we'll get these pcie cables connected shouldn't be any issues at all with power delivery now that we've dropped down to a 6800 so the 750 watt in here should be more than enough i really should have connected the other cable first also i've got to say wow this triple fan layout really looks good in this compact case and we'll slide the cover back on somehow some some way there's a way to do this there we go that that seems a little bit more like it i am dduing right now i should have done that before i installed the new card but uh yeah do as i say not as i do and just like that we are back online thank you all very much for watching this far in the video i know this probably isn't how you expect it to end um this was just i mean it's something i really didn't expect going into it and you always tend to have at least one or two surprises when it comes to uh small form factor builds which i like i mean it's you know it adds an extra bit of depth an extra layer to the pc building process because you have to think a bit outside the box no pun intended and um you know it's it's one of those things to be very careful about if you buy a bunch of hardware expecting it all to work you know just fine only to realize that there are actual physical clearance issues you can't really do anything about those unless you're willing to cut through your case and dremel things and yeah i don't think you'd want to dremel your card but your case you'd surely have to to make some of these larger cards work in in builds like these so just be very wary of that you know if anything this video is a testament to how difficult it can be at times and that's just that's my fault lack of preparation i didn't really think this through um and also the the fact that i completely skipped over the hdmi 2.1 requirement for 4k 120 oled tvs via hdmi so yeah that's all fixed now thankfully the 6800 has hdmi 2.1 support and we're going to be able to pair that with an ultra high speed hdmi cable you don't want to be limited by your cable either and there are certain cable requirements so there's there's high speed hdmi and then there's ultra high speed hdmi and ultra is uh the standard that you'll need to get that full 4k 120 hertz i think up to like 8k 60 some compression and 10k even so hdmi can actually do quite a bit now but the standard for most computers i mean the the one that's very reliable has a lot of breathing room is still displayport it's just unfortunate that tvs haven't taken on that trend yet uh so anyway i'm gonna get this thing uh yeah all lined up and we're gonna put it underneath the tv and time for that lg video if you guys like this video thumbs up be sure to subscribe leave a comment down below let me know how silly i am and i'll catch you the next one my name is greg thanks for building with me\n"