Getting the F12 Back on Track

We have to get the F12 back off the trailer and into the back room so we can continue on with all the Fab stuff and all the other stuff we need to do this car to get it ready. Fortunately, it didn't fall off, and we're okay.

The Car's Mileage

Today, the car moved faster than ever before without its engine. We estimate that it covered close to 30 miles with no motor, which is a remarkable feat. This success marks a very positive day for our project.

Ferrari VIN Check

We took the car to Ferrari to get the VIN check done, and we were relieved to discover that there was only one gasket set in the entire country that has been purchased. This news is huge because if we hadn't found this gasket set, we wouldn't know where to start. The good news is that we now have a reliable source for custom head gaskets.

CP Carrillo Custom Parts

We're also fortunate to have found CP Carrillo, who will make us a custom set of pistons and rods to work with the F12 engine and our modifications. This is a huge relief because finding someone to make custom parts was a major concern. The pistons and rods will be designed specifically for this project.

The Challenges Ahead

Despite the progress we've made, there are still many challenges ahead. One of the biggest issues is trying to find bigger injectors for the direct fuel injection system. This is a complex problem because it requires finding pumps that fit onto the heads in their stock location. We'll have to eliminate this option and go with standard port injection instead.

The Port Injection Process

To make the port injection work, we need to disassemble the head, remove the valves, and weld them up again. We'll also need to grind the head smooth and perform a valve job. This process is time-consuming and requires careful attention to detail.

Measuring Chamber Volume

Before CP can start working on the pistons and rods, we need to get some critical measurements. I plan to use clay to create a mold of the head, which will help us determine the chamber volume inside. This information is essential for designing the pistons and ensuring they fit properly in the block.

Boring the Block

We also missed a few steps in the process that are crucial for a high-performance engine build. We need to bore the block out to match the piston height, which will require some trial and error at the machine shop. Getting this part right is critical because it determines how well the pistons fit inside the block.

The Next Steps

We've made significant progress today, but there's still much work to be done. We'll need to put the engine back together, get the measurements we need, and start working on the custom parts. The road ahead will be challenging, but with careful planning and attention to detail, I'm confident that we can build a truly exceptional car.

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"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enall right guys so we have 75 days left to get this F12 project done days are just melting away there's so much to do and the first thing that I need to Source are all of the parts for the F12 engine now some of the parts are going to be from the dealership like the bearings the gaskets the seals so we need to go over to Ferrari so when I called Ferrari the VIN number I gave them wasn't in their system they said this isn't a US Car the f-12 is from Canada they didn't believe that we had the car we got to get that car over there somehow to show them yeah I know it's ridiculous I'm like just I hear the parts I need here are the codes off of the parts just sell me some parts I'm kind of stuck until we have these parts I need to get on the phone and start trying to figure out if I can Source aftermarket Pistons if I can Source aftermarket rods and I don't think anybody makes these yet I think we're gonna have to take these parts bring them to someone and have them copy them and then re-engineer them for much more more power and for an engine that is not going to be a direct fuel injection anymore we're going to go to port injection so the Piston design is going to be completely different I want to cut that whole section out basically from here all the way to this point we'll just make this hole bigger so that way we have a spot for the shifter to go yeah we can move it around and we'll make a new plate so I'm gonna make some phone calls so you can make some noise back here foreign a.m yeah um I wanted to inquire about custom pistons and uh cost and time frame titanium rods are about 16 weeks 330 each for the 43 40 ride and titanium rods are 13.50 each pistons for a Ferrari um we'll make the Ferrari uh it's it's a Ferrari uh Ferrari able if they can make us Pistons this is not the place you want to have Pistons made if they don't know what a Ferrari is well this is not going as well as uh I had anticipated I was hoping that we could get some rods made quicker there's not a lot of places that can do it check in we'll see what's going on with Tim obviously this phone calls didn't go as planned but we'll see how it's going back here in the shop and if Tim's got this thing knocked out yet yo how's it going pretty good oh nice it just finished basically yeah that should be perfect I think the shifter will go right in this area so we'll make a plate later on that'll cover all this stuff up and maybe have like a box up to go over the linkage and then drop back down to where the shifter goes but yeah yeah exactly that looks really good now that you're done with this stick this thing on the trailer go over to Ferrari yep show them the vent number and then maybe we can order some parts because I don't know how long that's going to take and special order parts from Italy that's gonna take a while all right I don't know how we're gonna get this car on the trailer mark do you have any ideas none all right we've got a couple dollies under there it's okay it's only for our okay okay all right that's probably good it's not sketchy at all okay outside uh good I think I need to go higher all right ready yep okay I need to go higher again ready yeah looks okay it's actually pretty easy we got the F12 chassis strapped down to the trailer I think it'll be good enough but now we can take it over to Ferrari and basically show them there's a VIN number right here's the VIN number there's another VIN number over there there's another one on the front it's our car we have it now you can sell us parts for the engine we need bearings we need gaskets we need seals we need head gaskets valve cover gaskets well I got a long list of parts that we're gonna have to try to source that Ferrari hey Tim you got the 10 yeah I have both the red what is it no it's my rock form case what yeah the magnet guys this video is sponsored by rock form the rock form case has a strong magnet that can stick to almost anything boom over here 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display I actually got an email back from CP Carrillo which is the local piston and rod company so we can go over there today bring a rod and a piston and I think I might just bring the head as well if I want to scan it so we will get those parts now loaded up in the truck we'll head out all right so I've got a long list of parts actually like five pages of parts that uh we need to get from Ferrari so a bunch of bearings all the gaskets front and rear main seals they're just so many parts that we need and all of this stuff can only be sourced through Ferrari directly they didn't want to sell us internal engine parts for a car they thought that we didn't have when they looked up the VIN number because it was from Canada we'll bring it over to them they could see the car say hey we do have it yes it's just a shell don't worry about that part Ferrari and Maserati of Newport Beach and Mike there is a problem well they're not making it easy for me to get in here that's for sure hey hey brother how you doing hey he's a fan he knows what's up he's like oh Ferrari nice all right we are here I got my list of parts let's do this I got it Mark good we need a bunch of engine parts like bearings head gaskets do we have a VIN for the vehicle if I can actually see which uh assembly number we have yeah we're working with yep okay um Tim can you run out and go snap a photo bin real quick good thing the car's here yeah exactly I'm hoping to get different rods made for it which might have slightly different tolerances and that's why I was hoping to get like the exact bearing measurements so I can measure the inside of the rod okay measure the crank and then know how much you know oil thickness I want so I can get the right bearings there is a gas system okay there's one gasket left in the state so we can actually get that one okay and that would be everything in there yeah it might just do a couple of seals here and there but I mean once you get into the engine terrible part you'll be probably something else we need we can find all the small ones okay yeah so that's actually a good news on that but this one be a little bit more research to actually find out are these available available are all those different part numbers for the bear I have to look every single individual one I just want to bring it out that way and I can look at the color code if it did have it and then I can justify from there but since we can I have to look at every individual one okay I hate to make you do it but would you mind because I just want to know like if the bearings aren't available or if it's like months and months or yeah let me uh do a little bit more research right I know it's going to be like five minutes but if you can oh for sure all right thank you appreciate it um so he said there is one gasket set left a complete gasket set only one so we are definitely getting that because I can't take any chances on trying to Source those parts individually from somewhere else this will basically have both head gaskets and intake manifold gaskets exhaust manifold gaskets like everything for the oil pan the front and Main seals crank like all that stuff so we're getting lucky there we've got the factory bearings here so a lot of times engines will run a slightly thicker bearing on the top smaller bearing on the bottom or they might be the same they're there's just like there's a lot of difference in the tolerance depending on how well the crankshaft was machined and how precise each one of those rod bearing journals are they could be off by a thousandth or a couple thousandths and that would mean that you would need different bearing shells with different thicknesses here so that is very important to get right it also has to match the rod itself so the size in here when this is clamped down is going to be uh you know say whatever it is say that's 50 millimeters and the crankshaft is 48 millimeters so you need a one millimeter bearing on each side to take up that slop but it has to be smaller than a millimeter because you also need an oil film to be there if the bearing is making contact with the crankshaft at all it will spin a bearing so it needs that clearance for the oil to basically do its job and create a film a layer in between the bearing and the crank so that's what we're trying to figure out now is what different thicknesses of bearings are available so when we have the rods made if the rods aren't spot on to this size or if we want a little more clearance on the crank with a little thicker oil or whatever we might want we have options well we uh we made a purchase we got the gasket set and then we got the expedited Rush order because he said there's only one left now we'll go over to CP Carrillo and we'll check out some custom pistons and rods and see what they can do for us so we got some good info over Ferrari so the original Pistons are available they're in the factory so we can purchase those they're about a thousand dollars a piston which is kind of high but you know they're Ferrari parts and they're also not ideal they're not what we want to use in this engine but worst case scenario we can get more Factory Pistons that are new and replace those and put the engine back together so same thing with the connecting rods the connecting rods are available from the factory now I think our connecting rods are probably okay but the real issue is well are they strong enough to handle how much power we're planning on making with this thing if we put the engine together with stock rods and the stock rods aren't capable of handling the power they will fail and if a rod fails the engine will absolutely grenade it everything will be trash hopefully we'll get good news from CP Carrillo about the time frame of building custom rods and pistons and we can get the proper Parts in the engine and have it very reliable make over 1500 horsepower to the wheels and be an absolute Tire Slayer we made it over to CP Carrillo actually on time I think we're actually a couple minutes early which is perfect I hate being late hope for some good news as soon as you walked into CP Carrillo saw my name up on the board it's pretty cool I'm feeling good about this one of the engineers is actually going to show us a custom piston that they've designed and how it gets milled out so on the screen right there you can see like the base casting and then how the tool is moving through to cut all the pockets out and basically lighten the Piston up as thin as possible but also keep enough material there to keep it strong but it's really cool to just see the process so imagine just a little router bit moving around in there in a CNC machine it's a really cool process that is a massive piston I think it's huge so this is like a top fuel type no it's so here you can actually see the taper in the board it's actually going in sideways so that's yeah there's a lot of different ways to run a tool around here to get these Cuts made it's pretty cool to see this stage of it it's still very thick needs a lot more material removed off of it but very very cool so as we're walking through CP Carrillo and just looking at the process of how not only do they design and manufacture the parts but also just reverse engineer parts that are already there and improve on them was really impressive they have so much equipment in that building so this uh it's an air gauge the whole deal behind bringing this piece of equipment was to bring down the cycle time when measuring rods when we measured on on the cement we have two here it would be about a four minute cycle time for each part yeah over here it's about 15 seconds put apart so is it actually like an air nozzle and it's reading the resistance of how much air pressure the difference here that's crazy Isn't that cool so you can already feel the air coming out of the machine yeah so you have to build her muscles yeah this is the Master Okay so let's need to check it so one of the coolest measurement devices that I have ever seen actually uses air this is something that I had never seen before I instantly knew what it was when he said it was air that's like surgical Precision right there and they're just using air so they're shooting air down basically from here there's no resistance and as you get closer there's centers behind you I'm sure and it's reading the amount of pressure change and when it's the right distance it's programmed to that pressure yeah exactly correct so it's a membrane system right so all your not so connect to down here and it's a very sensible membrane that can measured within microns so yeah you know millions of an inch that's what we're currently using to push out as much product as we can yeah keeping the quality highest so in this building they actually do a lot of OEM Parts very impressive and looking at how they manufacture those parts and the different quality control tests that the the Pistons and rods go through was uh was pretty intense we're actually going to sit down now with Brenda who took our stock piston and Rod and she actually started taking measurements off of it and writing down a bunch of information so we're going to chat about this a little bit and see you know what kind of time frame we have on these custom Pistons see if they can make some custom rods for us and what the time frame is on that and also just listen to their feedback on what we're trying to do so normally aspirated piston this is going to be quite a bit different than what we want in the car now that we're going to double the horsepower so we're going to get some info from the experts and find out what the best route is basically put this on a round forging this is not a piston guided application so we are thinking that the round forging is going to be the best way to go for you you don't need anything HD because it's just going to make it too heavy for your for your engine and then 1500 dispersed on a 12 cylinder you'll be good with around forging okay we're also gonna make the lands a little bit thicker okay for the amount of horsepower you're doing we might need oil rail sports but you'll be fine with that because the compression height is so short okay how much compression is that one I think it's 13.5 to 13.7 okay and what are you thinking I'm thinking about 11 to 1. I think that's enough compression boost I don't know yet I don't know what it's going to take so on mine on E85 yeah we're gonna run it on okay so we're 11 to one's a little on just outside if you're going to run a fair amount of boost yeah so in my in my uh Formula Drift engine in the BMW motor I actually run uh 11 and a half to one uh with 30 pounds of boost and 150 shot of nitrous and those are just your off-the-shelf Pistons so you know off the shelf rods yeah there's yeah and it's holding up you're talking about moving the pin down so that the Rings can move down as well maybe 150 000 or so we'll model it up and see where we're at yeah and then we can we can definitely make you the raw down the Pistons yeah yeah what what do you think time frame is right now for the Pistons and for the rods rods are going to take about eight weeks eight to nine weeks or so distance without an expedite would take about eight to ten weeks or so okay so about the same time frame yeah got it worst case scenario would have to go with these rods but if we put these rods in it and we bend a rod and we blow an engine or if something happens the rod fails and it just completely destroys that that V12 block yeah that'd be very expensive so much horsepower is that stock um I believe it's about 750 at the crank okay um and it was so it did have a twin turbo kit on it and it was making right around a thousand to the wheels how long did you drive it with a thousand horsepower I don't think it went that many miles maybe a couple thousand miles pricing do you have a rough idea of of what um I think we spoke about it we were going to offer you the wholesale price the wd2 which our large Distributors get yep I do have pricing I just I can give you an estimate yeah a rough estimates the rods for 12 would run around 3 500. and that's with our cardboard that's our premium Bowl yeah with indefinite amount of twerking and the Pistons would run around 2000 and that's with all Hardware so you'd be getting the 9310 pins and it might be less if we don't go with oil rail supports okay as well yeah that's not bad at all we we just went to the Ferrari dealership and uh for the rods it was thirteen thousand dollars yeah it was yeah thirteen thousand dollars for the rods and I think it was uh I remember it was it was ten thousand dollars yes it's just a skill run yeah we're proud of those things I'm very proud I mean it's it's a nice rod for a factory Rod but it's uh it's not thirteen thousand dollars nice set of twelve but yeah I think so we were right we got a code of like thirty four thousand dollars for pistons and rods and bearings yeah we're getting some seriously upgraded custom parts for a lot less money than the original stuff so yeah take us on a on a ride after it's off absolutely please yes I'm kidding definitely no maybe just me I do have the head actually in the back of the truck yeah yeah so we're gonna uh show them the project car they'll get to check out the F12 chassis and we'll also get to look at the head so they have an idea of what that looks like and that'll help with a piston design so this is what's left of it but it's really cool down and being able to look at how Ferrari has progressed over the years with their chassis design so we were working on a 550 which is like a 2000 model so this is 13 years newer and the technology is so different the older cars are all steel and they literally look like a bunch of just one inch square tubes that are all stuck together and this there's like big you know aluminum castings some extrudings and it's uh it's pretty cool it seems like a very stiff chassis pretty thin wall is everything a woman yeah I think there was 11 different types of aluminum in the chassis you have all the parts we have all the original parts that we're not going to use anymore so every single part is going to be custom evapricated yeah so we have the obviously the power plant right yeah and we took a piece of where we have the bell housing and this was a transaxle so it's basically just a bell housing we're gonna chop that we're gonna weld the plate on it to run a six-speed sequential transmission quick change differential all the suspension control arms are going to be custom so basically we can create all the geometry we want for sliding it around and get all that built into it run smaller brakes on it so it just every single part is going to be changed so this is the the DFI injection Port so basically going to weld that up and then uh you know have them resurface and blend that down and I think that'll uh you know basically make this side look as much like that side as we can wow so mean I was able to show them some renderings of the body kit that we have partially designed for this car we're uh we're pretty excited about this project and yeah really really happy that you guys are able to help us out and like I said you're local and honestly the best in town the best around so I'm sure yeah that's great final uh picture looks like yeah exactly yeah the transformation you know we're trying to get this thing done for SEMA has a huge what yeah 20 24 yeah exactly that's that's the goal that Damon has set for this car told him it's not very realistic but the best dude the Haas F1 team is here Mike turn around Mike Mike turn around they're rolling in style look he's looking at he's like dude it's the Haas F1 Team Rolling In Style Ferrari they all have a huge trailer McLaren big old 14 14 18 20 wheelers Hot Stuff one they keep it light keep it in the budget that was like a Ford Econo van or something like that right a little Sprinter action not even the Sprinter not even this is a little forward action right now well that was a a very very good trip over to CP Carrillo I learned a ton their facility is absolutely amazing knowing that they're on board to help us build those pistons and rods is such a good feeling they're local I trust them I run their parts in my race engines for years so I know how high quality their stuff is they said eight weeks to build the rods well that's a lot longer than I would have hoped for maybe they can expedite it a little bit they literally are running those machines for 24 hours a day we're back at ddhq we have to get the F12 back off the trailer and into the back room so we can continue on with all the Fab stuff and all the other stuff we need to do this car to get it ready foreign that actually went fairly smoothly it didn't fall off we're okay like how many miles do you think this car did with no engine in it or today oh probably close to 30 miles today with no motor no motor it's the fastest it's moved in a while too so today was a very very successful day so we got the car over to Ferrari got the VIN check done and we found out that there was only one gasket set in the entire country that has now been purchased we should have that early next week so that's huge because if we didn't get that gasket set I don't know honestly what we would do trying to find someone to make us custom head gaskets and all these other gaskets would be an absolute nightmare there's a lot of things that Ferrari can't help us with but luckily CP Carrillo they're going to make us a custom set of pistons and a custom set of rods to work with not only the F12 engine but with the modifications that we're making to the F12 engine so I actually have a head from the F12 right here and this is kind of some of the stuff that we were talking about so the direct fuel injection comes right in here and sprays directly towards the spark plug in the center of the cylinder that is a very good setup it is very efficient it works very well but it is quite complicated to make it work on an aftermarket setup with an aftermarket ECU especially with everything else that we have going on here trying to find bigger injectors for that it's going to be tough trying to find bigger direct fuel injection pumps that fit onto the heads in the stock location that's going to be another challenge so that's why we're eliminating that and going to a standard port injection which means that these spots need to be welded up completely plugged and then welded and then Blended back into the shape to make it look a lot more like the other side that doesn't have it so all of this needs to be basically disassembled the head needs to be taken apart all the valves out everything out then welded up then grinded smooth out and then have a valve job done there's just so many steps to making everything right but before CP can make the custom pistons and possibly a custom rod and moving the rod length down and moving the pin in different spots it's really technical I think I'm going to get a piece of clay and basically close this up mold that shut like it's going to be when it's welded I'm going to have to CC the head which means I'm going to put a spark plug in there and pour liquid into it and measure the amount of liquid that's going in there and then I'll know the chamber volume inside of the head that step I need to do ASAP so I can get that information to them I also need to put a piston and Rod back inside the Block in the rush of getting this thing torn down to figure out what was going on with it I missed a few steps that are important in a race engine built and that's basically taking this stock piston and when it's in the bore sometimes the Piston sticks up higher than the board sometimes it's a little bit lower sometimes it's quite a bit lower and finding that height is very important because they need to know where this piston sits and that tells the where the crank sits and how long the stroke is exactly so that's another critical piece of information that they need four they can get started with actually making the Pistons the Pistons at least they can get done faster than eight weeks they can do them in four weeks which doesn't do us any good if the rods are going to take eight weeks we need them as a pair but if we do get the Pistons early we can then bore the block out to Max the Pistons exactly and have a little bit more you know leeway time at the machine shop so there's just so many steps and so many things that have to be done in the correct order to make this all work and we're kind of at step one right now so at least we found someone who can make those custom pistons for us so that's huge and the rods like I said this stock Rod does not look like it's going to be strong enough to hold 1500 horsepower plus so I know that the carrillos will definitely hold that power so solid day so much more to do so many more steps and I'm going to go home now get a little rest come back here bright and early tomorrow start putting this engine back together and getting these measurements that we need to move forward with the rest of the project thank youall right guys so we have 75 days left to get this F12 project done days are just melting away there's so much to do and the first thing that I need to Source are all of the parts for the F12 engine now some of the parts are going to be from the dealership like the bearings the gaskets the seals so we need to go over to Ferrari so when I called Ferrari the VIN number I gave them wasn't in their system they said this isn't a US Car the f-12 is from Canada they didn't believe that we had the car we got to get that car over there somehow to show them yeah I know it's ridiculous I'm like just I hear the parts I need here are the codes off of the parts just sell me some parts I'm kind of stuck until we have these parts I need to get on the phone and start trying to figure out if I can Source aftermarket Pistons if I can Source aftermarket rods and I don't think anybody makes these yet I think we're gonna have to take these parts bring them to someone and have them copy them and then re-engineer them for much more more power and for an engine that is not going to be a direct fuel injection anymore we're going to go to port injection so the Piston design is going to be completely different I want to cut that whole section out basically from here all the way to this point we'll just make this hole bigger so that way we have a spot for the shifter to go yeah we can move it around and we'll make a new plate so I'm gonna make some phone calls so you can make some noise back here foreign a.m yeah um I wanted to inquire about custom pistons and uh cost and time frame titanium rods are about 16 weeks 330 each for the 43 40 ride and titanium rods are 13.50 each pistons for a Ferrari um we'll make the Ferrari uh it's it's a Ferrari uh Ferrari able if they can make us Pistons this is not the place you want to have Pistons made if they don't know what a Ferrari is well this is not going as well as uh I had anticipated I was hoping that we could get some rods made quicker there's not a lot of places that can do it check in we'll see what's going on with Tim obviously this phone calls didn't go as planned but we'll see how it's going back here in the shop and if Tim's got this thing knocked out yet yo how's it going pretty good oh nice it just finished basically yeah that should be perfect I think the shifter will go right in this area so we'll make a plate later on that'll cover all this stuff up and maybe have like a box up to go over the linkage and then drop back down to where the shifter goes but yeah yeah exactly that looks really good now that you're done with this stick this thing on the trailer go over to Ferrari yep show them the vent number and then maybe we can order some parts because I don't know how long that's going to take and special order parts from Italy that's gonna take a while all right I don't know how we're gonna get this car on the trailer mark do you have any ideas none all right we've got a couple dollies under there it's okay it's only for our okay okay all right that's probably good it's not sketchy at all okay outside uh good I think I need to go higher all right ready yep okay I need to go higher again ready yeah looks okay it's actually pretty easy we got the F12 chassis strapped down to the trailer I think it'll be good enough but now we can take it over to Ferrari and basically show them there's a VIN number right here's the VIN number there's another VIN number over there there's another one on the front it's our car we have it now you can sell us parts for the engine we need bearings we need gaskets we need seals we need head gaskets valve cover gaskets well I got a long list of parts that we're gonna have to try to source that Ferrari hey Tim you got the 10 yeah I have both the red what is it no it's my rock form case what yeah the magnet guys this video is sponsored by rock form the rock form case has a strong magnet that can stick to almost anything boom over here bam Magic Magic that's a strong magnet magic okay guys it isn't actually magic it is actually magnets it is a very strong magnet that is on the back of every single rock form case and not only does it have strong magnets it also has a lot of durability so you can drop it and not have to worry about destroying your very expensive phone so the rock form case meets and exceeds military drop specs still works no problem this is a strong case what other phone case can you do this with and pick your phone up after and it still works none the rock form case is super durable the magnets are super strong and there are a ton of accessories that you can add to the back of the case like this sport ring this suction cup car mount head over to rockforum.com DDE and use code DDE 2023 for 25 off everything on their website from phone cases to accessories also if you're in Southern California you can actually go over to their brand new retail location in Irvine where they have all their products on display I actually got an email back from CP Carrillo which is the local piston and rod company so we can go over there today bring a rod and a piston and I think I might just bring the head as well if I want to scan it so we will get those parts now loaded up in the truck we'll head out all right so I've got a long list of parts actually like five pages of parts that uh we need to get from Ferrari so a bunch of bearings all the gaskets front and rear main seals they're just so many parts that we need and all of this stuff can only be sourced through Ferrari directly they didn't want to sell us internal engine parts for a car they thought that we didn't have when they looked up the VIN number because it was from Canada we'll bring it over to them they could see the car say hey we do have it yes it's just a shell don't worry about that part Ferrari and Maserati of Newport Beach and Mike there is a problem well they're not making it easy for me to get in here that's for sure hey hey brother how you doing hey he's a fan he knows what's up he's like oh Ferrari nice all right we are here I got my list of parts let's do this I got it Mark good we need a bunch of engine parts like bearings head gaskets do we have a VIN for the vehicle if I can actually see which uh assembly number we have yeah we're working with yep okay um Tim can you run out and go snap a photo bin real quick good thing the car's here yeah exactly I'm hoping to get different rods made for it which might have slightly different tolerances and that's why I was hoping to get like the exact bearing measurements so I can measure the inside of the rod okay measure the crank and then know how much you know oil thickness I want so I can get the right bearings there is a gas system okay there's one gasket left in the state so we can actually get that one okay and that would be everything in there yeah it might just do a couple of seals here and there but I mean once you get into the engine terrible part you'll be probably something else we need we can find all the small ones okay yeah so that's actually a good news on that but this one be a little bit more research to actually find out are these available available are all those different part numbers for the bear I have to look every single individual one I just want to bring it out that way and I can look at the color code if it did have it and then I can justify from there but since we can I have to look at every individual one okay I hate to make you do it but would you mind because I just want to know like if the bearings aren't available or if it's like months and months or yeah let me uh do a little bit more research right I know it's going to be like five minutes but if you can oh for sure all right thank you appreciate it um so he said there is one gasket set left a complete gasket set only one so we are definitely getting that because I can't take any chances on trying to Source those parts individually from somewhere else this will basically have both head gaskets and intake manifold gaskets exhaust manifold gaskets like everything for the oil pan the front and Main seals crank like all that stuff so we're getting lucky there we've got the factory bearings here so a lot of times engines will run a slightly thicker bearing on the top smaller bearing on the bottom or they might be the same they're there's just like there's a lot of difference in the tolerance depending on how well the crankshaft was machined and how precise each one of those rod bearing journals are they could be off by a thousandth or a couple thousandths and that would mean that you would need different bearing shells with different thicknesses here so that is very important to get right it also has to match the rod itself so the size in here when this is clamped down is going to be uh you know say whatever it is say that's 50 millimeters and the crankshaft is 48 millimeters so you need a one millimeter bearing on each side to take up that slop but it has to be smaller than a millimeter because you also need an oil film to be there if the bearing is making contact with the crankshaft at all it will spin a bearing so it needs that clearance for the oil to basically do its job and create a film a layer in between the bearing and the crank so that's what we're trying to figure out now is what different thicknesses of bearings are available so when we have the rods made if the rods aren't spot on to this size or if we want a little more clearance on the crank with a little thicker oil or whatever we might want we have options well we uh we made a purchase we got the gasket set and then we got the expedited Rush order because he said there's only one left now we'll go over to CP Carrillo and we'll check out some custom pistons and rods and see what they can do for us so we got some good info over Ferrari so the original Pistons are available they're in the factory so we can purchase those they're about a thousand dollars a piston which is kind of high but you know they're Ferrari parts and they're also not ideal they're not what we want to use in this engine but worst case scenario we can get more Factory Pistons that are new and replace those and put the engine back together so same thing with the connecting rods the connecting rods are available from the factory now I think our connecting rods are probably okay but the real issue is well are they strong enough to handle how much power we're planning on making with this thing if we put the engine together with stock rods and the stock rods aren't capable of handling the power they will fail and if a rod fails the engine will absolutely grenade it everything will be trash hopefully we'll get good news from CP Carrillo about the time frame of building custom rods and pistons and we can get the proper Parts in the engine and have it very reliable make over 1500 horsepower to the wheels and be an absolute Tire Slayer we made it over to CP Carrillo actually on time I think we're actually a couple minutes early which is perfect I hate being late hope for some good news as soon as you walked into CP Carrillo saw my name up on the board it's pretty cool I'm feeling good about this one of the engineers is actually going to show us a custom piston that they've designed and how it gets milled out so on the screen right there you can see like the base casting and then how the tool is moving through to cut all the pockets out and basically lighten the Piston up as thin as possible but also keep enough material there to keep it strong but it's really cool to just see the process so imagine just a little router bit moving around in there in a CNC machine it's a really cool process that is a massive piston I think it's huge so this is like a top fuel type no it's so here you can actually see the taper in the board it's actually going in sideways so that's yeah there's a lot of different ways to run a tool around here to get these Cuts made it's pretty cool to see this stage of it it's still very thick needs a lot more material removed off of it but very very cool so as we're walking through CP Carrillo and just looking at the process of how not only do they design and manufacture the parts but also just reverse engineer parts that are already there and improve on them was really impressive they have so much equipment in that building so this uh it's an air gauge the whole deal behind bringing this piece of equipment was to bring down the cycle time when measuring rods when we measured on on the cement we have two here it would be about a four minute cycle time for each part yeah over here it's about 15 seconds put apart so is it actually like an air nozzle and it's reading the resistance of how much air pressure the difference here that's crazy Isn't that cool so you can already feel the air coming out of the machine yeah so you have to build her muscles yeah this is the Master Okay so let's need to check it so one of the coolest measurement devices that I have ever seen actually uses air this is something that I had never seen before I instantly knew what it was when he said it was air that's like surgical Precision right there and they're just using air so they're shooting air down basically from here there's no resistance and as you get closer there's centers behind you I'm sure and it's reading the amount of pressure change and when it's the right distance it's programmed to that pressure yeah exactly correct so it's a membrane system right so all your not so connect to down here and it's a very sensible membrane that can measured within microns so yeah you know millions of an inch that's what we're currently using to push out as much product as we can yeah keeping the quality highest so in this building they actually do a lot of OEM Parts very impressive and looking at how they manufacture those parts and the different quality control tests that the the Pistons and rods go through was uh was pretty intense we're actually going to sit down now with Brenda who took our stock piston and Rod and she actually started taking measurements off of it and writing down a bunch of information so we're going to chat about this a little bit and see you know what kind of time frame we have on these custom Pistons see if they can make some custom rods for us and what the time frame is on that and also just listen to their feedback on what we're trying to do so normally aspirated piston this is going to be quite a bit different than what we want in the car now that we're going to double the horsepower so we're going to get some info from the experts and find out what the best route is basically put this on a round forging this is not a piston guided application so we are thinking that the round forging is going to be the best way to go for you you don't need anything HD because it's just going to make it too heavy for your for your engine and then 1500 dispersed on a 12 cylinder you'll be good with around forging okay we're also gonna make the lands a little bit thicker okay for the amount of horsepower you're doing we might need oil rail sports but you'll be fine with that because the compression height is so short okay how much compression is that one I think it's 13.5 to 13.7 okay and what are you thinking I'm thinking about 11 to 1. I think that's enough compression boost I don't know yet I don't know what it's going to take so on mine on E85 yeah we're gonna run it on okay so we're 11 to one's a little on just outside if you're going to run a fair amount of boost yeah so in my in my uh Formula Drift engine in the BMW motor I actually run uh 11 and a half to one uh with 30 pounds of boost and 150 shot of nitrous and those are just your off-the-shelf Pistons so you know off the shelf rods yeah there's yeah and it's holding up you're talking about moving the pin down so that the Rings can move down as well maybe 150 000 or so we'll model it up and see where we're at yeah and then we can we can definitely make you the raw down the Pistons yeah yeah what what do you think time frame is right now for the Pistons and for the rods rods are going to take about eight weeks eight to nine weeks or so distance without an expedite would take about eight to ten weeks or so okay so about the same time frame yeah got it worst case scenario would have to go with these rods but if we put these rods in it and we bend a rod and we blow an engine or if something happens the rod fails and it just completely destroys that that V12 block yeah that'd be very expensive so much horsepower is that stock um I believe it's about 750 at the crank okay um and it was so it did have a twin turbo kit on it and it was making right around a thousand to the wheels how long did you drive it with a thousand horsepower I don't think it went that many miles maybe a couple thousand miles pricing do you have a rough idea of of what um I think we spoke about it we were going to offer you the wholesale price the wd2 which our large Distributors get yep I do have pricing I just I can give you an estimate yeah a rough estimates the rods for 12 would run around 3 500. and that's with our cardboard that's our premium Bowl yeah with indefinite amount of twerking and the Pistons would run around 2000 and that's with all Hardware so you'd be getting the 9310 pins and it might be less if we don't go with oil rail supports okay as well yeah that's not bad at all we we just went to the Ferrari dealership and uh for the rods it was thirteen thousand dollars yeah it was yeah thirteen thousand dollars for the rods and I think it was uh I remember it was it was ten thousand dollars yes it's just a skill run yeah we're proud of those things I'm very proud I mean it's it's a nice rod for a factory Rod but it's uh it's not thirteen thousand dollars nice set of twelve but yeah I think so we were right we got a code of like thirty four thousand dollars for pistons and rods and bearings yeah we're getting some seriously upgraded custom parts for a lot less money than the original stuff so yeah take us on a on a ride after it's off absolutely please yes I'm kidding definitely no maybe just me I do have the head actually in the back of the truck yeah yeah so we're gonna uh show them the project car they'll get to check out the F12 chassis and we'll also get to look at the head so they have an idea of what that looks like and that'll help with a piston design so this is what's left of it but it's really cool down and being able to look at how Ferrari has progressed over the years with their chassis design so we were working on a 550 which is like a 2000 model so this is 13 years newer and the technology is so different the older cars are all steel and they literally look like a bunch of just one inch square tubes that are all stuck together and this there's like big you know aluminum castings some extrudings and it's uh it's pretty cool it seems like a very stiff chassis pretty thin wall is everything a woman yeah I think there was 11 different types of aluminum in the chassis you have all the parts we have all the original parts that we're not going to use anymore so every single part is going to be custom evapricated yeah so we have the obviously the power plant right yeah and we took a piece of where we have the bell housing and this was a transaxle so it's basically just a bell housing we're gonna chop that we're gonna weld the plate on it to run a six-speed sequential transmission quick change differential all the suspension control arms are going to be custom so basically we can create all the geometry we want for sliding it around and get all that built into it run smaller brakes on it so it just every single part is going to be changed so this is the the DFI injection Port so basically going to weld that up and then uh you know have them resurface and blend that down and I think that'll uh you know basically make this side look as much like that side as we can wow so mean I was able to show them some renderings of the body kit that we have partially designed for this car we're uh we're pretty excited about this project and yeah really really happy that you guys are able to help us out and like I said you're local and honestly the best in town the best around so I'm sure yeah that's great final uh picture looks like yeah exactly yeah the transformation you know we're trying to get this thing done for SEMA has a huge what yeah 20 24 yeah exactly that's that's the goal that Damon has set for this car told him it's not very realistic but the best dude the Haas F1 team is here Mike turn around Mike Mike turn around they're rolling in style look he's looking at he's like dude it's the Haas F1 Team Rolling In Style Ferrari they all have a huge trailer McLaren big old 14 14 18 20 wheelers Hot Stuff one they keep it light keep it in the budget that was like a Ford Econo van or something like that right a little Sprinter action not even the Sprinter not even this is a little forward action right now well that was a a very very good trip over to CP Carrillo I learned a ton their facility is absolutely amazing knowing that they're on board to help us build those pistons and rods is such a good feeling they're local I trust them I run their parts in my race engines for years so I know how high quality their stuff is they said eight weeks to build the rods well that's a lot longer than I would have hoped for maybe they can expedite it a little bit they literally are running those machines for 24 hours a day we're back at ddhq we have to get the F12 back off the trailer and into the back room so we can continue on with all the Fab stuff and all the other stuff we need to do this car to get it ready foreign that actually went fairly smoothly it didn't fall off we're okay like how many miles do you think this car did with no engine in it or today oh probably close to 30 miles today with no motor no motor it's the fastest it's moved in a while too so today was a very very successful day so we got the car over to Ferrari got the VIN check done and we found out that there was only one gasket set in the entire country that has now been purchased we should have that early next week so that's huge because if we didn't get that gasket set I don't know honestly what we would do trying to find someone to make us custom head gaskets and all these other gaskets would be an absolute nightmare there's a lot of things that Ferrari can't help us with but luckily CP Carrillo they're going to make us a custom set of pistons and a custom set of rods to work with not only the F12 engine but with the modifications that we're making to the F12 engine so I actually have a head from the F12 right here and this is kind of some of the stuff that we were talking about so the direct fuel injection comes right in here and sprays directly towards the spark plug in the center of the cylinder that is a very good setup it is very efficient it works very well but it is quite complicated to make it work on an aftermarket setup with an aftermarket ECU especially with everything else that we have going on here trying to find bigger injectors for that it's going to be tough trying to find bigger direct fuel injection pumps that fit onto the heads in the stock location that's going to be another challenge so that's why we're eliminating that and going to a standard port injection which means that these spots need to be welded up completely plugged and then welded and then Blended back into the shape to make it look a lot more like the other side that doesn't have it so all of this needs to be basically disassembled the head needs to be taken apart all the valves out everything out then welded up then grinded smooth out and then have a valve job done there's just so many steps to making everything right but before CP can make the custom pistons and possibly a custom rod and moving the rod length down and moving the pin in different spots it's really technical I think I'm going to get a piece of clay and basically close this up mold that shut like it's going to be when it's welded I'm going to have to CC the head which means I'm going to put a spark plug in there and pour liquid into it and measure the amount of liquid that's going in there and then I'll know the chamber volume inside of the head that step I need to do ASAP so I can get that information to them I also need to put a piston and Rod back inside the Block in the rush of getting this thing torn down to figure out what was going on with it I missed a few steps that are important in a race engine built and that's basically taking this stock piston and when it's in the bore sometimes the Piston sticks up higher than the board sometimes it's a little bit lower sometimes it's quite a bit lower and finding that height is very important because they need to know where this piston sits and that tells the where the crank sits and how long the stroke is exactly so that's another critical piece of information that they need four they can get started with actually making the Pistons the Pistons at least they can get done faster than eight weeks they can do them in four weeks which doesn't do us any good if the rods are going to take eight weeks we need them as a pair but if we do get the Pistons early we can then bore the block out to Max the Pistons exactly and have a little bit more you know leeway time at the machine shop so there's just so many steps and so many things that have to be done in the correct order to make this all work and we're kind of at step one right now so at least we found someone who can make those custom pistons for us so that's huge and the rods like I said this stock Rod does not look like it's going to be strong enough to hold 1500 horsepower plus so I know that the carrillos will definitely hold that power so solid day so much more to do so many more steps and I'm going to go home now get a little rest come back here bright and early tomorrow start putting this engine back together and getting these measurements that we need to move forward with the rest of the project thank you\n"