The Niche Topic of Monetization: A Frustrating Reality for Game Streamers and Let's Players

Are they even going to take this topic seriously? I said this before the show, but it's still a kind of boring topic because there's no real way to have another stance. Can't really Devil's Advocate, you know what do you want 5%? I even know that I even, uh, no, I even tried to...like, I don't know if you remember this, but back when they first started claiming monetization, that was back when we were doing Nintendo streams on the Afterparty. I was like, well, I kind of get it. It's their music and it's their asset, and in much the same way that if I put someone else's music as a backdrop to our show, they could claim the monetization from it. Well, okay, yeah. I guess so. But if you're going to then say well no, okay, we understand the benefit that game streamers and let's players have, especially for titles like Super Smash Brothers for example, where there is no entertainment in the viewing experience that overlaps with the entertainment of the playing experience. Spectating Super Smash and playing Super Smash are two distinctly different experiences, and the people who are into that might not necessarily have been into that, and weren't going to buy it anyway necessarily. The people who want to play it, watching it is not a replacement, so particularly for games like that or like Mario Kart, these are great examples of competitive style stuff, different experiences viewing versus playing.

So, Nintendo has acknowledged maybe there is a benefit to this, maybe we shouldn't take all the money away from people who are driving eyeballs to our games. Um, but then they go and they kind of want to like nickel and dime these people like oh no, we really need the revenue so badly because Wii U and Smash and Mario Kart are not selling really well, and the entire Internet isn't hyped over the moon about the upcoming Zelda game pretty well right now. Yeah, Wii U and Smash and Mario Kart are specifically doing pretty good right now, so they should like not do this cuz they're probably fine. It's frustrating, so basically we don't even game stream but we think this is ridiculous.

I've done game streaming of Nintendo content because I just don't care. I'm not into it for that, I want to play freaking Mario Kart, so like whatever, leave me alone. Yeah, it helps that you have a day job. Yes, but I mean it's one of those things where you know it's it's easy for us to say yeah if we want to stream games, we're really not going to give crap about it because our day job is making tech videos, but for people who do rely on it this is extremely frustrating and this is the kind of problem that we do potentially face in the future where it's powers that be that control our revenue stream not us. It's funny.

I actually saw a comment on uh I think it was on whole room water cooling something anyway, U someone asked what do these guys do for a living, and uh I was about to reply, and I saw there was already a reply. I think they build computers. I'm like what how can you watch our videos and not know that we make videos for a living? Yeah, I mean actually, you know what perfect example of this. Um, my wife Yvonne had no idea how long b-roll takes for the upgraded new and improved Linus Tech tips format cuz Brandon was over at my house which is the only place where there's enough room to set up that oo gaming cockpit for which by the way is coming out this weekend pretty excited for that.

I'm going to watch that one. Yeah, um so he was over filming it, and we were there for like you know 5 hours, and she was like yeah I had no idea it takes so long like yeah, and the editing takes even longer than that. So, there's pre-production and then there's actual filming which is actually by far the shortest part. Yeah, scripting writing filming uh testing things learning about the product roll all those things take a lot longer than me standing there and reading off a teleprompter. Nick testing the actual video setting it live at the right time. Yeah, the forum topic all that stuff there's tons of things.

Well, I think that's pretty much it for the L show for tonight. You guys are awesome, and we thank you for watching. Really hot in here, I know it's getting hot in here so turn off all the clothes, I am getting hot. I will take my clothes off then their monetization for the stream was stolen TGI Friday, TG oh every time I hear that I think of the restaurant. Yeah but I know the restaurant's not the original no mop your squares spaces with knowledge learn about how things fall.

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don't talk yet I have to turn you down in the uh in the volume thing uh mixer that's the word thank you boop boop all right then I have to add you add Ryan tro everyone's saying lineus spec tips lus spec tips oh yes I am wearing glasses today isn't that fun all right so welcome to the show Mr shout we are going to put to rest the whole Nvidia thing once and for all and we're going to kick this right off with okay this is what this is what our viewers said to us last week are you telling me you know looking us looking in the eye making eye contact are you telling me that no one at Nvidia caught this no engineer ever looked at the spec page once it was released and caught it and mentioned this they're saying that's completely unbelievable I'd like to hear sort of the the flip side of that argument I I would believe that it was not caught until fairly recently only because the the the now we're talking about the r and uh cash size changes only not the memory pool differences uh but if you look at that like those those specific points those specifications are not really listed on geforce.com they're not really listed on nvidia's website as far as I know the only place those were actually kind of published is in the reviewer guide that they sent to editors after the you know the launch day and before you know when we got all of our our test cards and stuff sure and so then it took us reading those documents and Publishing the incorrect information in your review and my review and everybody else's review out there um and I would find it uh I would find it probably difficult to believe that zero people inside a company that size took note of that like nobody said oh you know what it actually does doesn't have two Megs of L2 cach on there but I don't know if that person thought it was well it's not that big of a deal at this point the information's out there and performance is what it is and we'll just go about our business there I I I I don't think um you know I don't think there was like big meetings between PR and Engineering said oh no we have this discrepancy and should what do we do do we want to hide it and bury it or you want to bring it up and they decided to bury it I think it was more likely a the right people didn't notice uh and didn't didn't decided not to bring it up to the people that would actually care if this had been something that they had caught a week or two weeks into the 980 or 970 release I think they would have come forward with that part about it I think so okay so let me let me s i I'll I'll go and I'll play my audience's devil's advocacy once more and say okay if you were this was actually this was actually a really good point someone I feel bad because I forget their name but there was a really good point that someone brought up and that was if you're an engineer who slaved away on this GPU for literally years on launch day are you not sitting at your computer reading the reviews that people are making about this product that you spent so much of your time on like are you not even interested do you does every single one of them skip over the spec sheet because they know the spec um I would guess I I think I think I think it's it's a very valid point there I would guess that um many of the of the engineers and and marketing and and Technical people at Nvidia or amb or Intel do what a lot of our readers do which is they kind of read that intro and then they kind of go to the end there and kind of get what what is this person's actual opinion on it I don't think they would really dive too much into um a descript like my description of the architecture that they built because they know it better than I do right maybe some of them did I you know I don't know uh and if if they would have found that discrepancy would they have brought it up to somebody probably uh it's it's a it's a tough it's a tough spot inidia in trying to convince people that that's that that wouldn't have happened I I think the memory thing is much more impactful to the consumer than the the cash and R concern necessarily um but so let's get into that then okay so okay so pla plausibly even an engineer who worked on the GPU might have missed that part of any review because why would they give a crap they don't need you to tell them how many shaders it has um but let's get into the memory speed bit because it's not the first time they've done it and it's not the first time that they haven't really talked about it so is the amount of butthurt out there Justified should there be a class action lawsuit um I don't if we get into the politics side of it is I tend to be on the uh persuasion of class action lawsuits are rarely necessary but I I I would say in this instance it's it's similar to what they and you're referring to what they did with the 550ti and the 660 Ti and how that memory configuration work compared to the 970 and it's similar in a couple ways and it's and it's different in several ways as well like the the the bandwidth discrepancy between the second pool of memory on the 660 Ti and the primary pool was not nearly the golf that we have with the 970 it didn't go from you know 184 gigs to 24 gigs per second or whatever it is yeah um and also it was a significantly higher percentage of the total frame buffer right so I think you were talking about a 2 gig frame buffer at that time of which 500 Megs was this kind of secondary pool so you're about 25% of the memory instead of8 of your memory um so it's it's so it's important there but I I would the internet tends to as you guys are well aware make things a little bit more um aggressive than they need to be maybe uh it they tend to amplify these problems more than they would be otherwise as you know the kind of the snowball begins to roll and petitions are formed and whatnot change.org yeah which Wasa changed anything the poor the most poorly wed uh petition to actually get something done I've ever read but you know what's funny I haven't read it I just assumed there was a change.org petition oh no there absolutely is oh there absolutely is and it was it was written it was maybe by no fault of his own it was written by a non-native English speaker so it's kind of like all in it broken up and it's like I don't really know what they're trying to tell me but I know what their intent is uh I I I think it's a I think it's something that's worth noting and I think Nvidia should have if if I don't believe that they should have called it a 3.5 gig card but I think they should have been upfront with the the technical media to say hey some of this is a little bit different you know and we we both know Nvidia very well they come up they could have made this a marketing uh positive as opposed card with overflow buffer Ram half a gig of backup memory 500 Megs of Super Cash 2.0 whatever crap they would have come up with right and they could have done that and they would have sold it as an advantage but now you come back look at it in retrospect and you you can only really see it in a negative light there's no positive to it um The only positive would be that you know this is this is something that the 500 Megs of you know super cach whatever you want to call it is actually only possible because of the way Maxwell was built if you look back at uh kind of that block diagram that I think you guys showed last week as well that that the white diagram that that shows the different blocks um had they wanted to do that before they would have had to disable the entire block you would have had 192bit memory bus and you would have 3 gigs of Graphics memory but because of the way uh Maxwell was architected to be more modular they were able to disable just that portion of L2 and Rob to kind of help their yields and increase their their profitability on the production side and thus you were able to get 500 Megs more uh of your primary frame buffer than you would have been able to get to before and you kind of have this 500 Megs that you can access as this secondary portion I guess but that being said it is painfully obvious after everything has gone on over the last 10 days that this was this was not the right way to do it um yeah and they are like somebody sent me a link last week to some uh uh Law Firm that is investigating the the plans of a class action and they of course just to make feel benefit law firms anyways yeah as far as I can tell I mean they men me as in their descrip destion they kind of mention as quoted by PC perspective blah blah blah like I don't want to be involved in this I don't need I don't need any more depositions in my life I'm good yeah the funny thing about class actions is there was what that Intel Benchmark one that got resolved a little while ago where everyone got like $17 or something like that so the only the only and it was and you have to go through a filing thing for it and all this kind of stuff like so the only one who benefited lawyers yeah because most people aren't going to claim it they're just going to grab the cash anyways $17 is actually a lot for one of those if you're like a a secondary uh uh plaintiff and that I I've had ones from like back in the DDR memory days that are like $3 and $6 nice it's like I I can't imagine the amount of processing and and kind of Records keeping you have to have for that many people to be sent $3 checks that I then have to go through the process of cashing or depositing and it's you know yes the the lawyers end up on on the high side of that the intent obviously to the lawyer side is to kind of uh inhibit other companies or this company from doing that same thing again right it's more of a punitive it hurt side yeah it just doesn't really benefit consum it doesn't end up B benefiting the consumers other than unless unless that injury placed on the company benefits them in the future but they're not getting benefited for purchasing that item yeah yeah I don't think you're going to have a lawsuit that credits everybody that buys a 970 with 1/8 of the price of the card or you know or upgrade everybody to a 980 or whatever how do you calate how do you calculate worth uh worth as well because memory isn't 100% of the card so 18 isn't actually a prop yep yeah yeah okay so then the other thing that I wanted to bring you on oh for those of you who don't know this is Ryan Trout from PC perspective I realized I never really introduced him we just kind of brought him on and started talking about the 970 vram gate issue um so welcome to the show Ryan thanks it's glad to finally be on here you know thanks we were recording all that previous stuff right because it was pretty good so uh jumping jumping forward to the other thing I've got my Nvidia sweater on by the way I don't know if you noticed I did I did yeah I'm I'm I'm just I'm messing with everybody because I'm G to go and play Devil's Advocate against Nvidia okay while wearing my Nvidia sweater that's like my objective on the stream today I'm just kind of having fun with it I got a really fun email from someone about um how I'm an Nvidia apologist and there was some terrible punctu in the email it was it was pretty funny apologist and Unapologetic are so overused now oh my God I'm unapologetically in behind this bu shut up I got a we got we got more than my fair share of those comments as well if you look through uh those couple of stories from last week but I did do that so let's move on to the g-sync one g-sync without a gsync module do you realistically think now that uh okay here's here's the million-dollar question are we heading towards a future where a monitor has the hardware in the same way that a motherboard has a PCI Express slot so where the monitor has the hardware to realistically operate perfectly with uh free sync or gsync and it's just going to come down to the monitor manufacturer to certify or not certify with a given maker is that where we're headed uh I think that's where we're headed yes I think the the qu the real issue here is when is that going to occur right so the the kind of controversy around the GYN g-sync thing was that well at first the guy claimed that he hacked a driver to make it work when that that wasn't really the case but the insinuation was that oh look g-sync modules are never really required you could always just do this and that's that's 100% not the case like if you look at desktop displays that existed to that exist today and that have existed for the past year that g-sync has been around you could not do that with currently shipping scalers and currently shipping you know display connection standards um but remember when AMD you know like I think it was October or November of 2013 when we were out in Montreal an Nvidia demo ging for the first time that next January at CES AMD had a laptop and they said oh look we can do it too and they showed a demo of a variable refresh screen not to me because I'm not one of the cool kids but whatever I hey you know well that you take that up with them that's I I try not to take the blame for that one um but they did it on a mobile form form factor for a reason right it was in a mobile form factor you have uh EDP uh embedded display port you have complete control and knowledge over all of the timing controllers and the display controllers between your GPU and the panel you know everything in the pipeline which you do not know on a desktop configuration so right uh desktop monitors are getting there and that's why that's this is essentially what amd's free sync is kind of has been waiting for right there's a reason why freesync is not out and it's not really because AMD is holding back on anything they need the technology to be out there and they need stuff to actually work and function and what the mobile g-sync kind of story showed us was that Nvidia knows this and um they also know that in the mobile form factor the mobile displays you still you know all that information and they will go through a g-sync module less certification process for mobile variants of gsync at the very least but on the upside it's still up in year right right and I mean there's there's you got to assume Nvidia is working on there like I I okay last question last question about this because I know your wife wants you home at some point so do you think what do you think nvidia's plan was were they looking to Kickstart an entry into the display scaler business with a killer app Feature like g-sync was that the objective like was the was the idea okay we've got this totally non-cost effective solution but we're going to ramp up the business volume we are going to rev two it rev three it rev four it we're going to get into the display scaler business and we're going to make that work seamlessly with our gpus or flip side was the objective to actually have an exclusive feature and they just didn't think that AMD and the scaler manufacturers would get their crap together so quickly um I don't think they necessarily wanted to enter into the scaler Market specifically I don't think that's that's like a super profitable business that they were trying to work their way in to um I what I what I really think occurred is if you and I have quite a bit of background on this is like if you they they knew panel self- refresh was a thing right on mobile and on cell phones on laptops and cell phones they knew what it was and they figured out that hey we could use that for the alternate purposes rather than saving power to improve a gaming experience and in order to do that they wanted to be first to the market with it they didn't want to have to you know to submit a standard to visa and wait for it to be approved and thus you know AMD and Intel and Nvidia all be on the same um pathway right you know that nobody would have any particular Advantage so they went through with developing the logic for it working with Partners to make the displays and kind of integrating it first because they wanted to be the uh the one kind of pushing the variable refresh technology forward which they clearly had done as much as AMD deserves credit with mantle for pushing the development of direct X12 Nvidia deserves credit with g-sync for pushing ahead adaptive sync and DP 1.2a plus and all that right right and what I what I think will be the most interesting thing to see is uh as we move into later this year and freesync monitors are widely available and they are shown to work mostly reliably and and pretty closely match the experience that we have with uh gsync displays will Nvidia continue to require a g-sync module in their desktop displays and I think they will but not for the same reasons that they have them in there today I think that Nvidia has more plans for display technology changes than just variable refresh and in order to do that they want they need to have a piece of logic on the other side it doesn't mean gsync monitor shipping today will have those features but that you know gsync 2.0 whatever that happens to be maybe they introduce some more interesting things other than just a variable refresh or maybe they just straight up segment the desktop and the mobile gpus that way they just say well look uh 980 supports whatever this new feature is with a g-sync display and 980m doesn't have it I mean they do that kind of thing all the time even stuff like um Shadow play it's like oh it's desktop first or whatever else the case may be and they might just not roll it out I mean even even in its current form the for what we saw in this kind of alpha leak of mobile gsync it's it is not at feature parody with gsync on the desktop right once you dip below that 25 or so frames per second Mark there you know on the desktop g-sync there's an algorithm in that in that chip that does work in terms of figuring out has it been too long do I need to refresh and it doubles up frame rates at certain points and it and it keeps the experience better when you go under that with the mobile version it won't have that capability because the tcons don't have that kind of logic they don't have the same size buffer um and so it's doubtful that they will ever have feature parody between the two I don't know if they'll brand it differently like gsync mobile as we kind of have branded it for them or gsync light or whatever it is uh but they're usually better at it than uh SLI light or gsync light but if you do lit te then it's fine right dynamic dynamic super gsync maybe they'll do Li to TI yeah yeah they they have they have a tremendous marketing department I'm sure they're better than us at coming up with this crap so all right well I think that was that was pretty much it I can take off my Nvidia hoodie now thankfully because I'm so was the razor armband supposed to look like an Nvidia thing no no I'm just wearing that because I I have an armband and my I've been this weird thing with my wrist lately it's been really cold when I sit and use the mouse so I've been wearing the thing just for warmth seems to make it a little more com if that's happening you are on the edge of carpal tunnel yeah well I've been on the edge a long time then well welcome to the fold it Happ it goes away it's fine it's only it's only a a a lifelong issue that you'll have for the remainder of your Living Years so yeah it was really bad a couple years ago actually about three years ago I was having a lot of trouble with uh with cold and and pain in my wrist and uh old people problems wow guess we can continue that does hurt I'm I think I'm older than both of you right line probably combined I think yeah oh ouch that hurts ouch yeah you're I think you're a little older than me I'm 28 yeah I'm 33 okay yeah damn it little all right well I think uh yeah I'll I'll let you get to your thing I think I had said we we'd kick it kick kick you off at five we're also dropping frames on the stream that I think are due to the uh to the video call right now so we got to let you go but are you hitting up with your are you hitting that 3.5 gab frame buffer limit and you're going into the secondary pool of memory maybe is that much slower it's much slower I think I what do I deserve in exchange for this no see this is the this is the like backup memory area right so that's why it's still working at all we should be thankful that the stream is still on and then it's not just dropping some frames this is this is the wait no I don't have my shill sweater on there that's much better memory boost .0 now it's like a shill Shaw right yeah like shill scarf nice as long as it doesn't turn into like a shill noose then we're good all right all right so before before before I go plug uh before you end your show go ahead and plug our YouTube channels and websites and everything so we can uh get do that now do that now want me do all right so pcp.com that's uh where you want to see all the stories on the 970 issue or the mobile gsync we've got that there and then uh we compete directly with lonus and Luke on YouTube right and nobody has enough time to watch any videos but if you go to youtube.com/ pcper you can see some of our crap there and try to figure out what all this L red light is behind me as well the red light district we can change it we can make it a green light district but I see unlike you I decided I don't want the background to be green if I'm G to sit here and talk about Nvidia stuff and so you but then I come on and you're wearing the the Nvidia hoodie that we got at the gsync editor day which is it's a it's a nice shirt it really is a nice isn't it I wanted one to be honest I I feel like I feel like such a corporate wearing it like I I put the thing on and then so it just adds the word corporate and then thank you and then that um and that uh that super nice one we got at the Maxwell event too at the 970 event that jacket the Jack W Breer yeah that is actually really nice I had I have worn that I when I went to Montreal a couple weeks ago I took that it was very nice um but I I don't let any I don't let myself wear it when I go out to other events I don't let myself wear it when we're on video like uh if Allan's here doing like a a storage video with me and he's got like an Intel skull logo t-shirt I'm like sorry you got to go change shirts we're not do on that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring those comments upon us so but hey I mean thanks for having me on guys and good luck the rest of your show all right take care man good to talk to you as always see you oh hold on hold on let me there we go you're good no thanks Ryan okay byebye by right all right so guys uh welcome back to our regularly scheduled content where we talk about things that happened this week yeah so the LG G4 is rumored to feature a 3K display let's go ahead and uh oh hold on a second here let me just make sure that I've while you're setting that up I'm going to do call outs for the U Starcraft League winners of January Kane won the official League which is like the not the tech Syndicate Kane no oh okay different no um k a y n won the official League which is like the UL members league and Commander Fett won the public league which is the best score against the public okay that is what is going on here I don't really oh I know what the issue is the issue is that my um my screen sharing is no longer working is is the is the a media plugged in yeah uh um did it fall out okay so Source uh try a different plug we can try again could it be a USB compatibility thing that's not it uh I I straight up don't understand uh what's going on here so we can remove that and then we can add camera and it will be correct wow I love this show okay so let's go ahead and the W show where we talk about things that happened last week carpel tunnel being old and we don't prep things yeah uh so the LG G4 to feature a 3K display this is rumored it showed up in some of the specs uh it's Al the rumors also point to a slightly smaller 5.3 in display it'll be 1620 by 2880 pixels which would be a pixel density of around 626 pixels per inch which is very impressive and completely necessary um the G3 had a 5.5 in display and a 2560 x440 uh p screen which resulted in 538 PPI and that was already kind of ridiculous so from 538 to 626 I already straight up couldn't tell um I don't have terrible eyes I'm wearing glasses this week but my close-up vision is just fine um and it doesn't make a difference past about 1080P and now going past 1440p it definitely doesn't make a difference what I would like to see instead is higher density displays in other form factors um most notably on the desktop because the issue actually this is something I talk about in our XPS 13 review um so that display is also a 3K display and the notebook is also available in a 1080p version Dell quotes the 1080ps battery life as 25% higher again you can force a Mobile screen to be smaller smaller well you're talking about laptops on phones you can force different resolutions oh yeah no that's fine I just mean the additional power required to drive all these pixels is something that I don't know if I necessarily agree on with a mobile device because and it should be noted that on the XPS 13 2015 found that's a lot of numbers um the 1080p models also tend to have lower spec CPUs so there's going to be some savings there as well and Dell is obviously just approximating you know these higher power models get about this much less so it's 12 hours on the high-end one and 15 hours on the low-end one in of rated battery it's a very significant difference yeah actually and I got to look at it and go well hold on a second like if we just if we just didn't worry so much about all these pixels that especially especially on a laptop where you're running Windows 8 and scaling is a complete disaster just doesn't make a ton of sense to meh all right Microsoft now pays ad block plus are you posting this one thing sure one thing we really need to remember with this article is that ad block plus is not the same as all the different versions there's block ad block plus other things that block ads um so this is specifically ad block plus who we've who we've given a hard time to on this show in the past about the whole Mafia style yeah um yeah you get paid for security or what protection protection money yeah yeah yeah um but it looks like Microsoft Google Amazon and tabula are all paying to have advertisements go unblocked on their websites for users that are running ad block plus so I don't know I don't know who they're trying to make happy here um obviously their users are not going to be super thrilled unless unless their users are those users who are only trying to block malicious ads for example yeah yeah and if if the idea was okay you know a site like microsoft.com is probably vetting the uh you know the ads making sure that there's no malicious code in them um if the idea is they're kind of going okay yeah you're paying us for the service of validating that your ads are not malicious okay I've had enough Devil's Advocate this is such nonsense yeah it's it's kind of ridiculous but I kind of think they're all ridiculous so I don't know um I'm kind of surprised like I don't know how much exactly they're paying but I'm kind of surprised these big companies are actually paying for that well the way that okay the way that the whole program works is much smaller websites like very small websites don't have to pay I think they just submit uh they they just submit an application to be whitelisted whereas much larger businesses are are intended to pay and guess Microsoft is prob doing it for MSN msn.com or whatever their like kind of homepage thingy where I think there is actually a bunch of ad I would imagine it's kind of across the board yeah but that's probably the one they're actually worried about MSN video would be another big one man the ads are obnoxious on MSN video every once in a while I kind of fall down the rabbit hole on on MSN video because they tend to have a lot of really short like 105 second you know stupid Clips clickable things yeah like and I'll just kind of and then I'll watch like another 30 second ad to see a 10-second video I'll be like yeah I've had enough and then that that that saves the rest of my evening um Time Warner Cable this is actually a great article this is posted by oh we should go back and uh Warrior surprising sorry oh oh keep Cy Warrior posted the 3K display one uh Good Bites posted about Adblock Plus and this one is from Victoria Secret do you want to go ahead and post this in the chat sure uh Time Warner Cables 97% profit margin on high-speed internet service exposed um actually the uh the digging that was done by the author of this article is not particularly deep I mean all he really had to do was look at some of the numbers that they are providing us on the the telephone and uh on The Voice side of things and and some other stuff and then kind of reverse engineer the numbers for high-speed internet and it raised is some really interesting questions if they're making 97% margin so he worked it out and he figures H where is it their average subscription is 40 something $ 43.92 per month and their average cost is a132 per month for the service that they're providing to that customer and he he raises some really interesting questions how did regulatory body ever look at this yeah who makes 97% margin on anything especially where it's been proven that there's essentially no competition in terms of isps in the states yeah it's esentially it's essentially localized monopolies yeah which is ridiculous so you're basically forcing Because the Internet is basically required at this point you're basically forcing people to buy something that you are serving them at a 97% profit margin which is insanity that's absolutely Insanity oh man it's also interesting that the uh reported uh it's it's reported that fees have increased by about 100% in a matter of two years for some customers yeah this was this seems like this is an article that uh the the author kind of had close to his heart because uh he was actually talking about how his personal Time Warner Cable basic triple play bill went up 112% in just 2 years from the advertised price of $89.99 to $19.77 that's insane it includes all kinds of fees and SAR charges and Rental this and uh one of them is a is a is a defunct social contract charge which is an extra $5 a month that hasn't actually been required apparently since 2001 um oh my God you should be able to get your money back for that yeah CU isn't that it shouldn't okay social cont what is that okay I think the fee was implemented and then taken off the bill but then the money is still being charged or something like that okay so time water is not necessarily taking that five no they're just jacking up the price yeah they're taking a $5 yeah no not necessarily that $5 is it a form of tax though like is this a government regulated thing uh I don't know too much about the social contract thing yeah cuz social contract sounds like some sort of oh yeah it was supposed to be to fund the upgrade to the network yeah yeah yeah like it that's what it was supposed to be for okay uh but oh so for it to funds I guess it could just go directly to them yeah oh that's if the Network's good enough then uh hey hey and it's not so hey so hey yeah how how about them social contract service charges you want to upgrade some things please I'm going to enter into my own social contract well some cities are they're installing their own networks and it's actually baller so um yeah so one of the ones I didn't bring up was franchise fees um yeah what does that even mean super gross so this is all based on 2013 records but I I mean I knew that they were doing just fine all we have to do is look at the you know all the commercial space they buy on TV and all the stadiums that these companies name and all this stuff we could look at it and go okay they're spending all that money and they're still doing fine um but I I had no idea it was 3% of the actual of it was the ACT about what like closed perfume and makeup are some of the most cuz printer ink yes printer ink like all those things that are just ridiculous where like the the nicest bottle of wine like ever is still very comparable to printer Inc in terms of prices uh I I don't remember that was an article a long time ago I had to I probably quoted it slightly wrong but it was ridiculous um yeah the bit about drinking the printer ink instead of the wine I think that was the part you screwed up that wasn't in there I didn't say that no you didn't anyways uh but it was funnier yes uh like that's nuts though that's absolutely ridiculous I wish our margin was 97% I guess what I could do is just slash all of your salaries I think that's illegal well this isn't this no that that isn't legal I said I think that is il legal isn't would mean that it's legal right I don't know if what they're doing is like actually documented as legal because there's there's questions to be brought up I this is a very old conversation so I won't delve into it for very long but where the government's like here's money to build this stuff then you just don't do it that should be under contract that should be illegal I don't think there's any punishment for that yeah there should be something there should be anyway we should carry on because that's a very old very goes out of business in Canada and says they're going to have amazing deals and my wife goes there on Thursday there should be amazing deals was there nothing apparently the stores were just the store was just like packed and people were buying things but she ended up leaving and going to Superstore to buy some garbage cans for the new office because she knew they were actually on sale um she the electronics department apparently was so full of people that there was a lineup to get in so she didn't didn't actually go to the electronics but apparently just cuz I I sent her there cuz we're going to need some Sundries for the new office and things like toilet paper you know cleaning supplies um stuff like that and I was like yeah just pick up some of that stuff I mean it should be like uber liquidation sale and apparently it's as simple as just saying you're having a liquidation sale and people come and they buy things they should just they should do that thing okay I don't know about you viewers but this is a total thing here grand opening and and like final closing sales thing furniture stores I swear every single furniture store on like um Bridgeport Road and uh and King George Boulevard and Richmond and sui like like you you drive through furniture storeand and especially the smaller ones not the Big Chain ones like half of them are having their moving sale or or liquidation sale or closing down final inventory close out s grand opening for like six years yeah there's actually a documented thing where one of the stores in BC had a grand opening sale for years and I mean like the the sign is faded you know yeah yeah yeah like it's old and faded and ripping what did you buy someone else's used Grand Opening sale sign and put it on or if you just ridiculous um all right so there's ah yes a new Intel consumer SSD 750 series uh pops up on a compatibility list so this is cool the code name is August Ridge it's the month I'm born in so it's probably like Illuminati confirmed anyway um it was on the road map for releasing Q4 2014 but that time has passed we're still hoping we can see it soon and if we do then that'll make Intel the first one to deliver an nvme compliant SSD so that would be an SSD that doesn't rely on the oldfashioned ahci uh software layer to interface with the controller so it would actually it's optimized for lower latency uh most mostly lower latency it's optimized for the lower latency PCI Express connections that new ssds are going to be connecting to whether it's over m.2 or over a standard PCI Express slot um capacities will be 180 240 360 480 and 600 gigs and um yeah that's honestly there isn't a ton to say I'm excited to see them in person fast rests are good yes for lots of things I me here's something you might not even consider you know if your SSD in your laptop or your phone is much higher performance okay ph's a bad example because we're not getting this in phones but on your laptop uh is is using uh PCI Express Bus and is using nvme the faster it can complete any transactions that it has to the more it's sitting there idle instead of working so as long as we get nice power efficient super high-speed ssds it's kind of like um it's kind of like how faster Wi-Fi actually benefits more than just you know oh okay there's less stuff sitting in the air essentially that's right that's right it makes everything else that's on that Network faster because you're not using up as much air time it's good yeah Sony has sold Sony Online Entertainment I that's I'm actually kind of surprised they sold it especially with the timing because H1 Z1 despite the highly controversial launch actually seemed to be doing pretty well well okay launch into early activ Early Access sorry I keep not posting links I keep forgetting to say who I've done I've posted all the other ones it's me and King cry for the last two posting on the Forum thanks guys this one is King cry um yeah like I is that even proper terminology now because that wasn't even a real launch was it I'm I'm pretty sure H1 Z1 is still in Early Access I think so yeah but then people were like oh my God the servers aren't good enough because Early Access literally doesn't mean Early Access anymore um you just buy the game you just bought the game you're playing the game anyways dumb but yeah apparently the company that bought it which has a terrible name of Daybreak game company well no that they renamed it to Daybreak game company yeah which is bought by was bought by like a holding company columus Nova yeah New York's B firm investment management firm but Daybreak game company really um they make games until they they work until so late at night the comes up that might actually be true if you're a programmer yeah so maybe not that far from the TR actually maybe it's the best name for a game company ever I just didn't like that they're called game company I don't know why I'm sure there's other ones out there called aren't we called I so I shouldn't have called us lonus Media company I have never said that that was a good name right I have forever said that that was a terrible name right moving on um what did you want like dish water R anything other than lus Media Group anyways um they're they're looking into they they said that they want to fully embrace the multiplatform world in which we all live so that's bringing up theories that they're going to bring H1 Z1 to consoles which is probably not too surprising and mobile you just said H1N1 to consoles did I yeah hopefully we're bringing viruses to consoles H1 Z1 is what I meant to say uh and apparently interested in possible mobile crap in the future so nothing was interesting for us not all mobile stuff is crap um Square Enix keeps remaking Final Fantasy ver mobile those are good games oh Pokemon Pokemon Blue is a mobile game bam no technically yes not the mobile I'm currently talking about you just you just got trashed son but technically yes that is not wrong okay uh oh this is a shame this was posted by Good Bites brutal this is like like I I'll post it in the chat this is like a supreme ouch moment um do you know how oh you're posting the broken ones let me let me do the posting fine um this is great so oh it broke again all right please stop breaking andity boity no okay I don't know oh can they hear us yeah that's not what I meant to do now we're really big hi everyone yeah this is a fairly large area that I'm in I've always been really big larger larger than the area that we normally are when we're showing the now we're gone oh you know what's kind of fun know what's kind of fun just start talking go just go I I think this is a terrible idea okay I got Apple will spend two billion to turn its failed Sapphire plant into a global Command Center so you know how the rumor was that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would feature sapphire glass screens and there was that viral video that Marcus brownley made where he tried to scratch it and he bent it and was like w sapphire glass is kind of amazing okay you can put us in the corner now um sapphire glass is amazing well the company that Apple was actually had actually thrown a lot of money at and who had committed to deliver the volume of sapphire glass that Apple required in order to integrate this product onto not just the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus but lots of their lots of their products including the Apple watch well they GT Advanced Technologies like straight up realized that they couldn't it and for bankruptcy so the uh 1.3 millionare foot building that Apple built to manufacture sapphire glass will be um not for that they're going to make it a data center yeah which makes sense repurpose the building if you can't do it but it's pretty brutal for a few reasons they could fil it with trampolines that would be awesome trampolines would do and uh the the ball pits not my company would fill it with trampolines not air conditioning trampolines mind you but definitely try uh I have bad news by the way the HVAC is definitely on hold for the new office we are putting in the hold on just just calm down we are and and and okay funny story funny story you might laugh um we are not only not going to have air conditioning we're not going to have eat I didn't yeah because it's going to be a combo unit I thought it would be when we put it in um so the good news is we're putting in the ducting so we can install hbac later but we cannot afford it right now this the sound the sound dampening that we need to do in the warehouse is have you figured more about that I I have figured out more about that more research is being done it's going to be very expensive is it looking positive into the buy some pizza and do it ourselves um I'm not sure okay yeah not sure okay so sorry what were we talking about right trampolines right they're repurposing it for data center you know cloud storage and all that kind of stuff is all is all yes un the the part that I was getting to sorry I was trying to remember what I was trying talk about um the the really sucky part in my opinion is that it will now create 150 full-time jobs and 300 to 500 construction jobs temporarily that sounds pretty cool except that it was supposed to create 2,000 jobs permanently bummer now it's 150 that's a nasty drop it's one of the largest Investments Apple has ever made and although of those 150 it's probably like data center people so people in the audience might be more able to be hired than the sapphire plant so that might be good for like our group of people but it's not good for the overall Employment Number all right so this is actually look at this good news from Ubisoft I think this is good yeah but it's like good because they're reeling back from terrible oh it wasn't okay it's like they shot someone and then they're like hold on let me let me fix that they patch the hole stood by while someone else got shot little bit of disinfectant they stood by how did they stand by they shot this gun no they didn't yes they did well they didn't they didn't okay let's hold on let's try's someone punched them in the face they shot some other dude and they're like crap okay that's actually the bad guy let me patch this someone else robbed their Bank okay okay so they so someone else no no someone else robbed their bank so they went and stole stuff from everyone that's ever used their Bank no someone okay Robin Hood let's say let's say Robin Hood okay like dirty Robin Hood who's in it for the profit to himself so definitely not Robin Hood not Robin Hood so a thief yes okay so we're gonna call him dirty Robin okay so dirty Robin busts into the bank takes um money okay but but not like uh not just like us cash let's say this happens in America okay but they don't take us cash they take all the foreign currency okay that for some reason people want no let's say it happens in Canada okay just just you just no I'm going let's go okay okay so they break into a Canadian Bank no one wants Canadian currency because it's plummeting right now so they take all the US currency okay and then instead of Distributing it to the poor they sell it to the poor for Canadian currency that they then convert to something useful like Bitcoin and then they have money I'm I'm well relatively useful it got a little weird at the end okay okay okay so so that's what happened followed you yeah the Ubisoft the the bank the bank thank you the Ubisoft Bank basically invalidated the foreign currency serial numbers that were stolen because it was stolen goods so they stole a stolen property it is illegal to buy stolen goods but they bought it from a legitimate store so we missed we screwed up part of that story okay so but will they stool the money from a legitimate bank doesn't I wasn't commenting on that at all I was to saying we missed the part where like they they sold it to a store that you would normally buy legitimate things from so the people that bought it no no no uh the people that stole from the bank a bank with a store in it oh I see what you're saying cuz they're not buying the money yeah no you said they sold the money yeah they sold well they exchanged the exchanged the money so they were a bank so a bank stole money from a bank and then sold it to other Banks and then people bought it from the yeah and then they cancelled the bank money okay you know what why don't I just so basically Ubisoft is reactivating Far Cry 4 keys that were invalidated due to um okay you know what why don't you just do this because apparently I can't handle it okay so I'm so lost now I actually had like the I had everything for the story ready and now I'm just screwed um essentially there's a whole bunch of keys uh stolen through apparently G2 a whole bunch of keys were sold through g2a which were stolen or something from other online retailers or whatever so Ubisoft just went and like canceled everyone who had bought it from other retailers um although I don't think that's actually a proper general statement it's said in the article that way but I'm pretty sure steam ones weren't cancelled and that's technically not you play right okay so I don't really can you even buy far I remember didn't we buy Far Cry 4 through Steam we did yeah we did but then I don't even remember there's something weird going on with you play in Far Cry 4 I don't remember how all that stuff went down but anyways a lot of keys got invalidated because uh they were stolen or they assumed to be stolen or whatever even if they were purchased from sites that would traditionally have been seen as the legitimate way to buy things um and g2a has I think some form of protection or something so people that got that are no matter what being taken care of people that didn't are like probably being taken care of and right I don't know their angle is super weird but yeah then Ubisoft went like okay I think we need to like invalidate the ones that we think are currently stolen but not necessarily activated and let people play that actually paid for it at some point okay yeah okay so they're like kind of trying to they're kind of trying to fix it here so Ubisoft got screwed over actually yeah pretty hard and then they retaliated heavier than they probably should have in terms of Saving Face right so dirty Robin took their stuff and then they basically strung up everyone he sold it to from a they did like the superhero recovery mode which where like they destroy half the city while trying to get the villain right yes okay speaking of which we had this conversation the other night I am like so excited for Incredibles 2 I know it's like not even close and there aren't even like teaser trailers yet but any there's nothing we can show you this is not an article yeah this is not this is not a thing be a really good talking about the other night um speaking of things we were talking about the other night we actually have some sponsors for the show today look at that linda.com you can learn it we've actually you know what's really sexy uh intelligence intell yes that is a great point so linda.com increase your sex appeal and only actually it doesn't even take like any period of time because you can start learning on linda.com within like minutes you go to linda.com wow for a free 10day trial and then once you've had your 10 days of unlimited free knowledge well I shouldn't say unlimited because there's 24 hours per day so you get 240 hours maximum of time to watch video 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they look great on desktop and they're very responsive and easy to make easy to use they got 247 tech support and I think that pretty much covers it you want your site to look great and be very usable and be easy to make then squarespace.com is pretty much the way to go and then our last one is just kind of a just kind of a fun one we actually have a variety of different things from Master up um that we can show you guys today we've had a lot of people drooling over this keycap set when uh what video did I show it in I don't know I think it was in the iMac gaming video iMac gaming no one's looking at the iMac no one's impressed by running Crisis 3 on it everyone's looking at this keycap set that's what I was looking at so this was like a crazy I think this drop is actually over so I'm sorry guys I'm just like showing you cool stuff Mass drop has that you can't buy but it's a full PBT key cap set with like custom Star Trek themed Spacey lettering like airlock key and like phase key resan for clan key oh so it's mostly designed for people who already know what the keys are supposed to be we should we should get super affordable though we should get Nick Van Burl a keyboard that has a phas clan key on it then every single time that he presses it it just plays the audio clip we should probably do that actually that would be a good super fun just like how to do it how to yeah like if we just make like a Phase Clan button yep that's actually toally doe we should totally make that that drop is on until tomorrow oh that's what our link goes to is the keycap set all right thank you nips once again I have no idea what's going on I do have two he might as well stay he does have notes on I just want to make it clear he does have notes on his screen he just doesn't look at they're actually not technically on his screen right now he's like he he he not only moved the screen away but he put a different window in front of it there's your issue so there's like two layers of Defense from the knowledge okay well they have other cool things that are over but the point is they have lots of stuff that isn't just keyboards so this is the uh graffiti graffiti Lin something yeah anyway so it's a little tiny USB charging cable they've got a lightning one they've got a micro USB one we've actually featured a very similar product before on handy Tech under 100 um so they've got like cool little stuff like that and this I wasn't really sure about even bringing up on the show we don't generally talk about weapons a weapon okay a gun is not a weapon you call it a firearm okay I'm serious if you go get your gun Licensing in BC you call it a firearm or they will not give you your license so the fact that I called this a weapon means I should have as a Yes mine you can use it technically as a weapon but you don't describe it as a weapon and you don't use it as a weapon it just can be you can use a kitchen pot as a weapon it is actually done in very many times in movies you can use basic you're you're I could use your BS logic is going to be it happens in movies therefore you could hit you can't start a sentence with that you could hit someone with a frying pan and that would hurt a lot I can't take you seriously do you want to fight me with a frying pan No I don't want to fight you with a frying pan that is not the point that we're talking about at all the point is draw. slw show for awesome drops like this one bring it back around to the to hand why do I even let you co-host this show with me a a a frying pan could be very easily used as a weapon that would hurt I didn't say it couldn't be used as a weapon I just said the fact that it appears in movies is a complete I said it could be and then I said in fact it is as an additional Point not as a main point that was a supporting article supporting supports nothing speaking of for my thesis on on on weapon variability speaking of supporting nothing uh consoles may get 4k support uh sometime in Q4 this is good this is actually really helpful and can you actually do your job and post this the twitch chat the the reason why this is really helpful is this might bring more uh 4K content like Netflix and stuff might push for more 4K content because of compatibility on other things so non console people might actually get more 4K content that they can watch um through that thanks to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One um finally joining 4 years ago well okay well okay you could play 4K video easily for quite a while on a PC in terms of a hardware but then the PS4 and the Xbox one already have the horsepower to play back 4K video it's not freaking complicated um the problem is that they don't have a display interface that's capable of playing back 4K video and we haven't had that on the PC for that long it has been a couple years a good point but display port 1.2 is when we got that on the PC like affordably without you know multi multi- linking multiple interfaces right two monitors and bizel chopping or whatever yeah so what it seems like they were waiting for was HDMI 2.0 and I suspect since it's already I mean it it hopefully the article covers this um I don't remember anymore but I I don't think we're going to be looking at 4K gaming anytime soon because that would be a serious as I told Hardware revision it could it it just have to do puzzle bble yeah the arcade games or whatever like it would you're not going to do yeah you might do arcade gaming stuff that's about it so like 4K Stickman Adventures 201 Edition uh maybe Tetris unless they put too many cool graphics in they've done that sometimes but then now that I think about it no they already have HDMI1 .4 they could technically do HDMI video playback already at 30 FPS this actually got said as to no longer be an official statement anyways so so moving on cuz Netflix is the one that said it and then they're like oh wait we can't talk on behalf of those guys so yeah that's about it three months later Android 5.0 Lollipop uh the last one was posted by crater and this one's posted by good bites has only 1.6% market share wow we that is uh not a hell heck of a lot um especially given that Android operating systems come in at the whopping price of absolutely nothing yeah uh to run on anything so this means this means a couple of things um it or it could mean a couple of things number one it could mean that KitKat was just fine um and handset ERS Andor users simply don't feel the need to update uh number two is it could mean that the devices that come pre-loaded with lollipop like the Nexus 6 uh Nvidia Shield tablet Nexus 9 um just aren't selling that well but I really don't think that's it because the Android install base is so massive I mean to put it in the appropriate context Jelly Bean is still in the lead yeah and there have been some pretty successful Kit Kat based devices um so I don't think that's it and then number three and this is the one that I personally think is most likely the handset makers that are validating lollipop are finding it just kind of a bear to deal with and roll out to their devices um droid turbo was sold with the promise of quick update to lollipop I mean we're 3 months in that's not exactly quick these days um so so there you go I mean I personally wasn't that impressed with lollipop but Google has acknowledged the memory leak issue um that they're hopefully going to be fixing and I think it was going to be a 5.1 update of the people that I know that have uh volli poop it it I I haven't actually heard usually when there's a new phone OS you're like oh there's all these cool new things about it like look at this new thing I can do blah blah blah blah blah no nothing really I hear some frustrations about like how notifications work and how you have to scroll through them and stuff and that's about it just some frustrations have some extra clicks um all for the sake of material design yeah that's that's about all I've heard is I have to do more things to be able to get stuff done the thing that really annoyed me most and maybe this is petty cuz Brandon doesn't seem to care he's running a Nexus 5 with lollipop um is removing the dividing lines between all the characters on the keyboard yeah why do you need to do that yeah don't why don't you have uh better things to do swift key um oh yeah yeah but whenever I whenever I fire up a new phone fresh install I try to use it until it makes me mad and then that's my benchmark for whether it was good enough so so if I have if I end up switching to swift key it's like how long did it take me to switch to swift key that's how good their stock keyboard is well their stock keyboard is about a two and a half week yeah it's a two it's a two and a half week until it frustrates you start start giving it like its own values Ivon uh recently switched to the 1 M8 and it was a one day keyboard for her the uh the the the sense sense keyboard wow she was like this is terrible cuz she'd been using the phone before and uh I was like no no it's okay I can change it she's like no it's okay I'm like no no I'll change it for you and so I put in swift key I put in the number row I removed swipe and then I changed the delay for um for special characters I do every single one of those are my essential essential settings for swift key and she was like oh this is great this is much better um dual GPU cards and configurations this is posted by assassin and we are of course going to use the WCC F Tech link because we love trolling you guys um M oh really wrecked wrecked wreck wrecked this is annoying it's probably a loose connection somewhere I blame you you set it up all right I'll try not to add the wrong camera this time I blame your feet I blame your on table I blame your face you're probably bumping things what is going on here well whatever um we should just like glue in all the connections so new lowlevel apis like uh anle and DirectX 12 may allow game developers to combine the video memory of multiple graphics cards so the Autobon Hammer that 24 gig uh system that we built with three 29x 8 gig cards could potentially have 24 gigs of video memory now to be clear this is at least in the short term completely purposeless because no game developer is going to build a game that is going to take advantage of 24 games not even just that I'm gonna quote a a little bit long quote here but still quote just because they're running uh Windows 10 and dx12 and or mantle API does not mean that your multi-gpu configuration is now stacking memory the capability is present in these low-level overhead apis but they will not come into effect until Dev specifically optimize the games as such right so not only is there no games that can really use that much VM right now but the devs are going to have to do it themselves and looking at how long it takes them to even have multi-gpu profiles at launch half the freaking time I don't see that many devs really doing this at least not now so yeah so don't get your hopes up there will probably be some sponsored titles I mean this is not just a PC feature this is like a super esoteric PC feature that a very small subset of that PC audience is going to be able to leverage so uh so that's cool and that's I'm very happy that it exists um one thing that's very cool about this is that uh well it's mantle so it'll probably come to like everything else as well and if it starts being available in kind of everything and then hopefully starts being available as just a plug-in that developers can do instead of uh having to manually code things for that then that would be nice so not now but future speaking of speaking of mantle and direct X12 this is actually an article I was reading oh for crying out loud right I don't have screen share uh sorry is this a linkable thing uh can I link this just on an unch oh you're going to do it there okay yeah I'll just do it here um I just want to share the article that's all yeah so I'll just add screen region bity Boop uh here's my browser enjoy okay there we go uh the direct X12 performance preview AMD Nvidia and star swarm so Ryan Smith over at Anon uh put together some explanations of blippity bloop you can read all that if you want here's the star swarm demo and the test and here are the results so on cards that support direct deck 11 12 and mantle we get to see all three results and for cards that don't support mantle and video cards uh we get to see DirectX 11 and 12 so uh G GTX 9 980 gets more than a doubling in performance moving from directex 11 to direct X2 and we've also got on the AMD cards direct x 12 and mantle performing within spitting distance of each other pretty well across the board mantle winning in every case but definitely within spitting distance yeah yes mantle does does Edge out direct X12 in every case but I think that if people were hoping that mantle was going to be the reason to own an AMD card um they're I think well basically if they work at AMD um then I think they're going to be a little bit disappointed because the thing is that star swarm is kind of a a worst case scenario it is designed to Showcase scenarios where there are far too many draw calls for directx11 to be able to handle it efficiently and to create CPU bottlenecks it's designed to do that whereas real games these differences that you see between mantle and direct X1 we've already seen that in real games you're not looking at a doubling of performance from from direct X1 to mantle you're looking at maybe a couple of percent a few percent um so that difference between mant and directx12 will be a fraction of a fraction of that other bigger difference that ended up being much smaller yeah so and then if we do end up doing that which we probably will eventually end up using all that performance um DirectX 12 will have well we might not even be on DirectX 12 at that point we might be further on but that Gap probably will have closed at least a little bit anyways yes but yeah it's it's a little bit disappointing that it has to be has to lean so much on developers we're seeing so many things come out these days where uh to quote Balmer developers developers developers ey tracking leans on developers VR leans on developers this leans on developers so much stuff is doing that and it's uh yeah as a developer right now I would be scared and excited at the same time all right speaking of being scared and excited this was posted by Alex Goes High Razer has upgraded the blade with Maxwell and more importantly for me since I'm a bit of a tab fiend more RAM so the blade is now available with a gtx970m instead of an 870m and 16 gigs of RAM is now an option on the higher end skew you still have that same high resolution exop panel display Luke is I'm trying to fix it doing things here I got kind of a funny idea uh so which one is this this is this one oh what the oh what are you doing I was going to I was going to give them like a behind the scenes of what you were doing well I'm trying to coniger the a med actually I'm just going to point it at your butt why are you doing that why would I not do that I don't know this doesn't seem like very high quality show content hello look at my nose what you got going on down there well there's computer cables and carpet and video cables and video cables oh look a wheel hey a foot oh why don't you wear Footwear at work uh because I don't want to right okay why don't you have air conditioning installed uh because it's expensive but where's expensive that's true Footwear not the kind you would buy no nothing you would buy is expensive no um okay they upgraded the CPU from an i7 4702 HQ to an i747 20hq that movement of the two is actually very important that signifies a TDP jump from 37 to 47 Watts uh which the more efficient 970m allowed although personally I probably would have opted for more battery and uh not bother with that minuscule gain in CPU performance um there's also a new lower-end version with a 1080p display and 256 gig SSD for 2 Grand still very expensive commenting on the CRT um oh the CRT yeah the CRT is for uh retro games mhm next so I I guess here I'll post this one I'll let you uh I'll let you handle this one or we I guess we could both handle this one so the FCC will declare the internet title 2 and apply net neutrality rules to mobile yeah that is awesome so great news wheeler did a bit of a jump face and started actually supporting the people that he's supposed to which is cool um and started backing up saying like oh yeah well we we we've listened to uh the communities and the people and all this kind of stuff for once apparently um and now yeah title 2 and blah blah blah there's some kind of sketchy things in this I'm not going to go over too much over title 2 as we've covered that in previous episodes but uh they want to modernize title 2 we were talking about this before the show um I actually just kind of skimmed over it initially thought that modernized title 2 just kind of meant that they're going to modernize the infrastructure behind title 2 like the physical infrastructure behind title 2 apparently they might be uh changing kind of how it works but a lot of it should be in terms of uh where's his exact wording for it tailoring it for the 21st century in order to provide returns necessary to construct competitive Network so so so yeah we're talking about the physical infrastructure changing and the rules of of title 2 altering to enable that to happen but if we if we were to take the optimistic approach to that statement and go oh it's to it's to prevent the kind of nonsense that's already been going on for the last decade with the internet um then then that that's great I mean some of the other points here no rate regulation no tariffs no Last Mile unbundling um and this means the action we take will be strong enough and flexible enough not only to deal with the realities of today but also to establish ground rules for the as yet unimagined the internet must be fast far and open this is the message I've heard if we're to sort of believe all this then this is incredibly good news it seems like too much of an about face for it all to be positive I feel like there has to be something and I'm worried about that that could be my like pessimism coming out but I mean the theory is that the FCC is supposed to be on the side of the consumer but they like haven't really shown that until now which is sketchy yeah I uh I just I just I mean I I got to wonder where they was he keeping quiet just because he didn't want to shake the boat yet and this was the plan all along I mean uh he brings up uh I don't think this is in our notes but it was in the article but he brings up a company that he used to work for that got uh contr F the nabo yeah I it's called Naboo it is in the notes is it tells the story of NAB the home computer network a competitor to AOL a startup that he was the president of that failed because networks acted as Gatekeepers so I mean you know was he was he on our side all this time I I I don't know don't really think so but maybe didn't look that way no um speaking of not being on our side this was posted by powder banks that last one was from Smitty shei and the previous one was from Alex Goes high and then the previous one was from assassin well we didn't do any for a bit um China will require real name registration for use of the internet and we're not talking real name registration like you have to pay for your internet service from your provider and you have to pay them with a credit card that has your name attached to it we're talking about the burden being put on isps and internet companies to enforce the new rules which are that the 650 million people who are online in China need to be personally identifiable online in their goings about super dumb I just now can I play Devil's Advocate or you just gonna get mad are you get all mad I know can you just stay calm for like two seconds thank you you know those are all things that just make people mad I know when you say okay um so okay so the The Devil's Advocate sort of um glass half full side of this is oh it will reduce you know uh inappropriate internet behaviors like swatting or trolling or or bullying or just just can you just I said two seconds two seconds I didn't get mad you I was watching you in the screen I saw what you did uh so let me take not being being identifiable online will lead to more personal accountability for one's actions when they go about their business online that is the that is the devil's advocate sort of version of that now what I actually personally think is that it's not going to help with that at all I mean there are sites and there are communities where they have tried to enforce uh people using their real names um didn't seem to help a whole lot with go+ um so so there's there's that but aside from aside from it not working the fact that there are communities that already have this that encourage the use of real names like Facebook means that if people wanted to engage in that way then they would go to those sites and they would do it this way we're not giving people a choice and it feels less like a benevolent sort of Nod to you know high school kids who are getting bullied and more of a way to keep tabs on what people are doing and what they're saying and in the context of of you know someone's being a dick to me on Twitter I guess yeah I would probably like to know who that person is so I can call their mom so that I can be like yo do you have any idea what your little crap turd of a son just said to me or daughter whatever you know gender equality um girls can be rude online too um so so that side of me is like yeah this is great but the flip side is you know what if someone lives in a country where they're oppressed for their religion or their or anything else about them and they can't they can't find other people they can't find support that's that's a huge problem where if they need to speak out against their government online or get access to news sources that are not censored by their local government I mean having anonymity as you browse the web is incredibly important can I talk now all right get all mad I'm not no I'm not getting mad you said uh because you you you Devil's Advocate and then you went back which is weird as a devil's advocate to well I didn't say I was a good Advocate you fought against yourself for way longer than you fought for Devil's advoc you were like here's some small points now I'm going to destroy myself like okay sure um you said less swatting and less trolling I think those are specifically totally wrong I think they'll be way more swatting cuz swatting is anonymous for the person that's doing it unless it's not and if every internet user was identifiable on every site that they're using right you could pick up a phone but if you pick up a phone then that's tied to your landline I'm assuming any any regime regime that's requiring you to register online proba knows there's always ways to file Anonymous yeah that's true information Anonymous information and that's how like basically okay squatting bad example online bullying though perhaps online bullying yes but this could pull more bullying and more trolling into the real world which is a lot worse than being bullied and trolled online not that we're saying online bullying isn't real and isn't a problem it's just no but saying I'm going to punch you in the face and actually punching someone in the face are very different things I would way rather someone goes I'm going to punch you in the face on on a keyboard and then finish the game we're playing in and go on to other matchmaking instead of having them go Kabam in real life right and now obviously not every time that happens is it going to happen but when people can't vent their frustration in that way uh it might happen more in the real world this is actually something that's been happening in terms of uh studies with violent video games a lot which is where a lot of people can use it as a venting mechanism instead of actually doing it it reduces violent crimes by a lot where you can play like GTA and just do stupid crap and then go play golf afterwards in GTA um is actually helping reduce a lot of the like violent crappy things you might do in real life because you can you can vent it's an interesting idea and if you're removing all of that that's actually not a good thing I'm not advocating for trolling on the internet I think trolling on the Internet is stupid the amount of crap that happened on The Forum over the 970 thing was ridiculous and like totally not okay and I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people on The Forum but I'm happy that wasn't a whole bunch of people standing in a building fighting each other cuz that would have been worse like I don't know this is fairly like straightforward stuff I don't know all right so let's move on to something that's also fairly straightforward uh this was posted by nine shadow on the Forum the Samsung Galaxy S6 chassis has been leaked allegedly uh it looks like it's going to have an all metal non removable back uh appears to look fairly similar to the iPhone Ione 6 I'd love to show it to you guys uh actually Galaxy S6 here we go blah blah blah blah blah chassis leak okay blue okay let's go come on Forbes hate that thing continue to site here we go so here's the article from Forbes where they're showing how very Apple like the alleged Galaxy S6 chassis is going to look that is very they're going to get the pants suit off of them yeah that seems very possible so let's go ahead and tuck tuck that away for now tuck tuck yep um I think there's a reference there that I missed a few people will get that so it's going to use glass material in the front and back some of them are apparently going to have like curved curved screens uh like curved Edge screens and some of them are not um Samsung pay is said to be embedded in the phone good luck with that Samsung um might be based on magnetic emitting that mimics your credit card so not NFC uh potentially accepted in 10 million points of sale without retooling existing machines I still wish them luck although Apple pay is apparently only available in 200 100,000 spots for me it's more of a trust issue and less of a um like trusting the technology Apple does a good job know I hear you yeah um complely agree apparently the rear will be non- removable so as much as the S5 was not a huge success for Samsung and I think that's kind of putting it lightly I think that taking away the things that made the Galaxy S the Galaxy S um things like removable battery is probably not like I I don't I don't see an iPhone 6 clone being a way to win new customers and I don't see taking away the things that sold your phone to someone else a generation or two ago being to retain your existing customers so I really have to wonder what exactly is the plan here right now or if it's real or if it's even real yeah could be totally fake so there's that I I really wonder sometimes these things are freakishly accurate so it it could be right but it's it's is really close yes more often than not Yep this is really really close I have to clarify something I think a few people in the chat thought I meant that people attacking in video on the Forum was super bad I wasn't talking about that I was talking about personal insults going to each other yeah we don't want members fighting we don't care if people are upset with that's like a rule on the Forum you're allowed to attack companies you're not all sh sweater bring back the shill sweater so you can attack lonus on the forum for wearing a shill sweater CU that's fine but you can't attack lonus for well actually you can attack lonus on fair game we that's what I'm saying we don't we don't count we are members but we don't count you can attack us and you can attack companies but don't attack other members of The Forum that's not a thing if you disagree with what they're saying use an intelligent argument to talk about how you disagree with what or better yet don't reply no because there could be intelligent argument yeah then don't reply yeah if they seem to be stuck in their way yeah yep recognize when people are trolling you like this right now yeah you did that at really good timing you owe me a coke I don't want a Coke I think you already owed me a coke from our last text Jinks yeah we'll call it even we can just buy each other nothing that works better for me all right so the Nintendo creators program which was already ridiculous so you guys I mean if you've been following this whole Fiasco Nintendo was claiming monetization against uh let's players and game streamers who were streaming their games um you know based on that they're using the in-game music and artwork without um having created it themselves when the content creators the guys who are playing the games are are arguing that it's actually their commentary that is the content and this is a fair use whatever anyway um so Nintendo sort of about faced on that and created the Nintendo creators program that would allow creators to register as approved creators um and then they started introducing that they want a share of the revenue so I believe it's a 6040 split by default and now now they are offering a 7030 split if creators are willing to remove any non Nintendo content from their videos like non- Nintendo games like are they for real this is there isn't even a debate for us to have like are they are they are they even I I said this before the show this GNA be kind of a boring topic because there's you like can't really have another stance I can't even Devil's Advocate you like what do you want 5% I I even no I even I even tried to to I like I don't know if you remember this but back when they first started claiming monetization that was back when we were doing Nintendo streams on the Afterparty I was like well I kind of get it it is their music and it is their asset and in much the same way that if I put someone else's music as a backdrop to w show they could claim the monetization from it well okay yeah I I guess so but if you're going to then go and say well no okay we do understand the benefit that game streamers and let's players have especially for titles like a Super Smash Brothers for example where there is no there is no entertainment in the viewing experience that overlaps with the entertainment of the playing experience spectating Super Smash and playing Super Smash are two distinctly different experiences and the people who are into that might not necessarily have been into that and weren't going to buy it anyway necessarily and the people who want to play it story driven watching it is not a replacement so particularly for games like that or like a Mario Kart these are these are great examples of competitive style stuff different experiences viewing versus playing um so so Nintendo has acknowledged oh maybe there is a benefit to this maybe we shouldn't take all the money away from people who are driving eyeballs to our to our games um but then they go and they kind of they want to like nickel and dime these people like oh no we like really need the revenue so badly because Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are not selling really well and the entire Internet isn't hyped over the moon about the upcoming Zelda game pretty well right now yeah Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are specifically doing pretty good right now so they should like not do this cuz they're probably fine it's frustrating so basically we don't even game stream but we think this is ridiculous you game stream yeah yeah so that's ridiculous um I've I've done game streaming of Nintendo content because I just don't care I'm not into it for that I want to play freaking Mario Kart so like whatever leave me alone yeah it helps that you have a day job yes but I mean it's one of those things where you know it's it's easy for us to say yeah if we want to stream game we're really not going to give to craps about it because our day job is making Tech videos but for people who do rely on it this is extremely frustrating and this is the kind of problem that we do potentially face in the future where it's powers that be that control our Revenue stream not us it's funny I actually I saw a comment on uh I think it was on whole room water cooling something anyway U someone asked what do these guys do for a living and uh I was I was about to reply and I saw there was already a reply I think they build computers I'm like what how can you watch our videos and not know that we make videos for a living uh some people don't understand how long it takes to make it I guess that's true yeah I mean actually you know what perfect example of this um my wife Yvonne had no idea how long b-roll takes for the upgraded new and improved Linus Tech tips format cuz Brandon was over at my house which is the only place where there's enough room to set up that oo gaming cockpit for which by the way is coming out this weekend pretty excited for that I'm going to watch that one yeah um so he was over filming it and we were there for like you know 5 hours and she was like yeah I had no idea it takes so long like yeah and the editing takes even longer than that so there I me there's pre-production and then there's actual filming which is actually by far the shortest part yeah scripting writing fil uh editing uh testing things learning about the product roll all those things take a lot longer than me standing there and reading off a teleprompter Nick testing the actual video setting it live at the right time yeah the Forum topic all that stuff there's tons of things all right well I think that's pretty much it for the L show for tonight you guys are awesome and we thank you for watching really hot in here I know it's getting hot in here so turn off all the clothes I am getting hot I will take my clothes off then their monetization for the stream was stolen TGI Friday TG oh every time I hear that I think of the restaurant yeah but I know the restaurant's not the original no mop your squares spaces with knowledge learn about how things fall I'm just going to cut you offall right guys welcome to the WAN show the live show every week at approximately 4:30 Pacific time I like cables like this can you really say approximately when it's always after cuz it's never no it has been before when you're not here when my brother and I host it sometimes we start it like 5 minutes early just to troll wow that is a that is a different type of trolling it's like it's it's the kind of trolling we often have around here trping tring you've never heard of tring no yeah that's something that we do all the time it's helpful trolling where you're like here's the answer but in the most obnoxious possible way I I hope it made you happy jackass yeah uh so guys we've got a great show for you today there's big updates with respect to Net Neutrality as well as the title 2 reclassification of the interwebs and yeah yeah basically all good news there Android 5.0 Lollipop so far is a gigantic turd I mean we often point at well okay we'll talk about it later basically the adoption of it is very teeny tiny very small can I have some more lollipops wasn't he small wasn't that part of the story uh Oliver Twist no he was just a kid I thought he was a small kid he was an orphan yeah I mean he was smaller than his parents but you can't prove it cuz they weren't exactly around I think I I tasted some Cards Against Humanity there I think I think I was coming back yeah that's going to be fun we've got our uh a new format for channel super fun coming up we we're calling it games night we play games yep the first one is Cards Against Humanity so it will probably be the most inappropriate one of all of them and out of anything we've ever released yeah what else we got for topics today we have am I starting well I did the first two already you already did them yeah the lollipop thing and the uh neutrality thing I remember now I derailed that so hard that I forgot where the rails were derail by the time I got to my destination anyways China is going to require real name registration to be able to use the internet so also Nintendo creators program there's more revisions on that yeah there's more Nintendo creators program revisions and they're bad so I got the good news and the amusing news you just got the terrible hor that suck crappy news things that suck with lonus and Luke let's roll Dead intro no you didn't clench hard enough oh I am ready to do this though oh cool usually and I think it's funny our sponsors today are linda.com sex appeal and learning all at the same time they messaged you about that no no they keep they keep letting me do this all right and Squarespace they have a new slogan I don't remember what it is but it's 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do teaching us physics I think Falls outside of that limit um okay so we are calling in a special guest Mr Ryan Shrout to come in and give us the once and for all he's his set and everything he's on his set usually he's like shirtless and I have to crop around around his head hold on Ryan don't talk yet I have to turn you down in the uh in the volume thing uh mixer that's the word thank you boop boop all right then I have to add you add Ryan tro everyone's saying lineus spec tips lus spec tips oh yes I am wearing glasses today isn't that fun all right so welcome to the show Mr shout we are going to put to rest the whole Nvidia thing once and for all and we're going to kick this right off with okay this is what this is what our viewers said to us last week are you telling me you know looking us looking in the eye making eye contact are you telling me that no one at Nvidia caught this no engineer ever looked at the spec page once it was released and caught it and mentioned this they're saying that's completely unbelievable I'd like to hear sort of the the flip side of that argument I I would believe that it was not caught until fairly recently only because the the the now we're talking about the r and uh cash size changes only not the memory pool differences uh but if you look at that like those those specific points those specifications are not really listed on geforce.com they're not really listed on nvidia's website as far as I know the only place those were actually kind of published is in the reviewer guide that they sent to editors after the you know the launch day and before you know when we got all of our our test cards and stuff sure and so then it took us reading those documents and Publishing the incorrect information in your review and my review and everybody else's review out there um and I would find it uh I would find it probably difficult to believe that zero people inside a company that size took note of that like nobody said oh you know what it actually does doesn't have two Megs of L2 cach on there but I don't know if that person thought it was well it's not that big of a deal at this point the information's out there and performance is what it is and we'll just go about our business there I I I I don't think um you know I don't think there was like big meetings between PR and Engineering said oh no we have this discrepancy and should what do we do do we want to hide it and bury it or you want to bring it up and they decided to bury it I think it was more likely a the right people didn't notice uh and didn't didn't decided not to bring it up to the people that would actually care if this had been something that they had caught a week or two weeks into the 980 or 970 release I think they would have come forward with that part about it I think so okay so let me let me s i I'll I'll go and I'll play my audience's devil's advocacy once more and say okay if you were this was actually this was actually a really good point someone I feel bad because I forget their name but there was a really good point that someone brought up and that was if you're an engineer who slaved away on this GPU for literally years on launch day are you not sitting at your computer reading the reviews that people are making about this product that you spent so much of your time on like are you not even interested do you does every single one of them skip over the spec sheet because they know the spec um I would guess I I think I think I think it's it's a very valid point there I would guess that um many of the of the engineers and and marketing and and Technical people at Nvidia or amb or Intel do what a lot of our readers do which is they kind of read that intro and then they kind of go to the end there and kind of get what what is this person's actual opinion on it I don't think they would really dive too much into um a descript like my description of the architecture that they built because they know it better than I do right maybe some of them did I you know I don't know uh and if if they would have found that discrepancy would they have brought it up to somebody probably uh it's it's a it's a tough it's a tough spot inidia in trying to convince people that that's that that wouldn't have happened I I think the memory thing is much more impactful to the consumer than the the cash and R concern necessarily um but so let's get into that then okay so okay so pla plausibly even an engineer who worked on the GPU might have missed that part of any review because why would they give a crap they don't need you to tell them how many shaders it has um but let's get into the memory speed bit because it's not the first time they've done it and it's not the first time that they haven't really talked about it so is the amount of butthurt out there Justified should there be a class action lawsuit um I don't if we get into the politics side of it is I tend to be on the uh persuasion of class action lawsuits are rarely necessary but I I I would say in this instance it's it's similar to what they and you're referring to what they did with the 550ti and the 660 Ti and how that memory configuration work compared to the 970 and it's similar in a couple ways and it's and it's different in several ways as well like the the the bandwidth discrepancy between the second pool of memory on the 660 Ti and the primary pool was not nearly the golf that we have with the 970 it didn't go from you know 184 gigs to 24 gigs per second or whatever it is yeah um and also it was a significantly higher percentage of the total frame buffer right so I think you were talking about a 2 gig frame buffer at that time of which 500 Megs was this kind of secondary pool so you're about 25% of the memory instead of8 of your memory um so it's it's so it's important there but I I would the internet tends to as you guys are well aware make things a little bit more um aggressive than they need to be maybe uh it they tend to amplify these problems more than they would be otherwise as you know the kind of the snowball begins to roll and petitions are formed and whatnot change.org yeah which Wasa changed anything the poor the most poorly wed uh petition to actually get something done I've ever read but you know what's funny I haven't read it I just assumed there was a change.org petition oh no there absolutely is oh there absolutely is and it was it was written it was maybe by no fault of his own it was written by a non-native English speaker so it's kind of like all in it broken up and it's like I don't really know what they're trying to tell me but I know what their intent is uh I I I think it's a I think it's something that's worth noting and I think Nvidia should have if if I don't believe that they should have called it a 3.5 gig card but I think they should have been upfront with the the technical media to say hey some of this is a little bit different you know and we we both know Nvidia very well they come up they could have made this a marketing uh positive as opposed card with overflow buffer Ram half a gig of backup memory 500 Megs of Super Cash 2.0 whatever crap they would have come up with right and they could have done that and they would have sold it as an advantage but now you come back look at it in retrospect and you you can only really see it in a negative light there's no positive to it um The only positive would be that you know this is this is something that the 500 Megs of you know super cach whatever you want to call it is actually only possible because of the way Maxwell was built if you look back at uh kind of that block diagram that I think you guys showed last week as well that that the white diagram that that shows the different blocks um had they wanted to do that before they would have had to disable the entire block you would have had 192bit memory bus and you would have 3 gigs of Graphics memory but because of the way uh Maxwell was architected to be more modular they were able to disable just that portion of L2 and Rob to kind of help their yields and increase their their profitability on the production side and thus you were able to get 500 Megs more uh of your primary frame buffer than you would have been able to get to before and you kind of have this 500 Megs that you can access as this secondary portion I guess but that being said it is painfully obvious after everything has gone on over the last 10 days that this was this was not the right way to do it um yeah and they are like somebody sent me a link last week to some uh uh Law Firm that is investigating the the plans of a class action and they of course just to make feel benefit law firms anyways yeah as far as I can tell I mean they men me as in their descrip destion they kind of mention as quoted by PC perspective blah blah blah like I don't want to be involved in this I don't need I don't need any more depositions in my life I'm good yeah the funny thing about class actions is there was what that Intel Benchmark one that got resolved a little while ago where everyone got like $17 or something like that so the only the only and it was and you have to go through a filing thing for it and all this kind of stuff like so the only one who benefited lawyers yeah because most people aren't going to claim it they're just going to grab the cash anyways $17 is actually a lot for one of those if you're like a a secondary uh uh plaintiff and that I I've had ones from like back in the DDR memory days that are like $3 and $6 nice it's like I I can't imagine the amount of processing and and kind of Records keeping you have to have for that many people to be sent $3 checks that I then have to go through the process of cashing or depositing and it's you know yes the the lawyers end up on on the high side of that the intent obviously to the lawyer side is to kind of uh inhibit other companies or this company from doing that same thing again right it's more of a punitive it hurt side yeah it just doesn't really benefit consum it doesn't end up B benefiting the consumers other than unless unless that injury placed on the company benefits them in the future but they're not getting benefited for purchasing that item yeah yeah I don't think you're going to have a lawsuit that credits everybody that buys a 970 with 1/8 of the price of the card or you know or upgrade everybody to a 980 or whatever how do you calate how do you calculate worth uh worth as well because memory isn't 100% of the card so 18 isn't actually a prop yep yeah yeah okay so then the other thing that I wanted to bring you on oh for those of you who don't know this is Ryan Trout from PC perspective I realized I never really introduced him we just kind of brought him on and started talking about the 970 vram gate issue um so welcome to the show Ryan thanks it's glad to finally be on here you know thanks we were recording all that previous stuff right because it was pretty good so uh jumping jumping forward to the other thing I've got my Nvidia sweater on by the way I don't know if you noticed I did I did yeah I'm I'm I'm just I'm messing with everybody because I'm G to go and play Devil's Advocate against Nvidia okay while wearing my Nvidia sweater that's like my objective on the stream today I'm just kind of having fun with it I got a really fun email from someone about um how I'm an Nvidia apologist and there was some terrible punctu in the email it was it was pretty funny apologist and Unapologetic are so overused now oh my God I'm unapologetically in behind this bu shut up I got a we got we got more than my fair share of those comments as well if you look through uh those couple of stories from last week but I did do that so let's move on to the g-sync one g-sync without a gsync module do you realistically think now that uh okay here's here's the million-dollar question are we heading towards a future where a monitor has the hardware in the same way that a motherboard has a PCI Express slot so where the monitor has the hardware to realistically operate perfectly with uh free sync or gsync and it's just going to come down to the monitor manufacturer to certify or not certify with a given maker is that where we're headed uh I think that's where we're headed yes I think the the qu the real issue here is when is that going to occur right so the the kind of controversy around the GYN g-sync thing was that well at first the guy claimed that he hacked a driver to make it work when that that wasn't really the case but the insinuation was that oh look g-sync modules are never really required you could always just do this and that's that's 100% not the case like if you look at desktop displays that existed to that exist today and that have existed for the past year that g-sync has been around you could not do that with currently shipping scalers and currently shipping you know display connection standards um but remember when AMD you know like I think it was October or November of 2013 when we were out in Montreal an Nvidia demo ging for the first time that next January at CES AMD had a laptop and they said oh look we can do it too and they showed a demo of a variable refresh screen not to me because I'm not one of the cool kids but whatever I hey you know well that you take that up with them that's I I try not to take the blame for that one um but they did it on a mobile form form factor for a reason right it was in a mobile form factor you have uh EDP uh embedded display port you have complete control and knowledge over all of the timing controllers and the display controllers between your GPU and the panel you know everything in the pipeline which you do not know on a desktop configuration so right uh desktop monitors are getting there and that's why that's this is essentially what amd's free sync is kind of has been waiting for right there's a reason why freesync is not out and it's not really because AMD is holding back on anything they need the technology to be out there and they need stuff to actually work and function and what the mobile g-sync kind of story showed us was that Nvidia knows this and um they also know that in the mobile form factor the mobile displays you still you know all that information and they will go through a g-sync module less certification process for mobile variants of gsync at the very least but on the upside it's still up in year right right and I mean there's there's you got to assume Nvidia is working on there like I I okay last question last question about this because I know your wife wants you home at some point so do you think what do you think nvidia's plan was were they looking to Kickstart an entry into the display scaler business with a killer app Feature like g-sync was that the objective like was the was the idea okay we've got this totally non-cost effective solution but we're going to ramp up the business volume we are going to rev two it rev three it rev four it we're going to get into the display scaler business and we're going to make that work seamlessly with our gpus or flip side was the objective to actually have an exclusive feature and they just didn't think that AMD and the scaler manufacturers would get their crap together so quickly um I don't think they necessarily wanted to enter into the scaler Market specifically I don't think that's that's like a super profitable business that they were trying to work their way in to um I what I what I really think occurred is if you and I have quite a bit of background on this is like if you they they knew panel self- refresh was a thing right on mobile and on cell phones on laptops and cell phones they knew what it was and they figured out that hey we could use that for the alternate purposes rather than saving power to improve a gaming experience and in order to do that they wanted to be first to the market with it they didn't want to have to you know to submit a standard to visa and wait for it to be approved and thus you know AMD and Intel and Nvidia all be on the same um pathway right you know that nobody would have any particular Advantage so they went through with developing the logic for it working with Partners to make the displays and kind of integrating it first because they wanted to be the uh the one kind of pushing the variable refresh technology forward which they clearly had done as much as AMD deserves credit with mantle for pushing the development of direct X12 Nvidia deserves credit with g-sync for pushing ahead adaptive sync and DP 1.2a plus and all that right right and what I what I think will be the most interesting thing to see is uh as we move into later this year and freesync monitors are widely available and they are shown to work mostly reliably and and pretty closely match the experience that we have with uh gsync displays will Nvidia continue to require a g-sync module in their desktop displays and I think they will but not for the same reasons that they have them in there today I think that Nvidia has more plans for display technology changes than just variable refresh and in order to do that they want they need to have a piece of logic on the other side it doesn't mean gsync monitor shipping today will have those features but that you know gsync 2.0 whatever that happens to be maybe they introduce some more interesting things other than just a variable refresh or maybe they just straight up segment the desktop and the mobile gpus that way they just say well look uh 980 supports whatever this new feature is with a g-sync display and 980m doesn't have it I mean they do that kind of thing all the time even stuff like um Shadow play it's like oh it's desktop first or whatever else the case may be and they might just not roll it out I mean even even in its current form the for what we saw in this kind of alpha leak of mobile gsync it's it is not at feature parody with gsync on the desktop right once you dip below that 25 or so frames per second Mark there you know on the desktop g-sync there's an algorithm in that in that chip that does work in terms of figuring out has it been too long do I need to refresh and it doubles up frame rates at certain points and it and it keeps the experience better when you go under that with the mobile version it won't have that capability because the tcons don't have that kind of logic they don't have the same size buffer um and so it's doubtful that they will ever have feature parody between the two I don't know if they'll brand it differently like gsync mobile as we kind of have branded it for them or gsync light or whatever it is uh but they're usually better at it than uh SLI light or gsync light but if you do lit te then it's fine right dynamic dynamic super gsync maybe they'll do Li to TI yeah yeah they they have they have a tremendous marketing department I'm sure they're better than us at coming up with this crap so all right well I think that was that was pretty much it I can take off my Nvidia hoodie now thankfully because I'm so was the razor armband supposed to look like an Nvidia thing no no I'm just wearing that because I I have an armband and my I've been this weird thing with my wrist lately it's been really cold when I sit and use the mouse so I've been wearing the thing just for warmth seems to make it a little more com if that's happening you are on the edge of carpal tunnel yeah well I've been on the edge a long time then well welcome to the fold it Happ it goes away it's fine it's only it's only a a a lifelong issue that you'll have for the remainder of your Living Years so yeah it was really bad a couple years ago actually about three years ago I was having a lot of trouble with uh with cold and and pain in my wrist and uh old people problems wow guess we can continue that does hurt I'm I think I'm older than both of you right line probably combined I think yeah oh ouch that hurts ouch yeah you're I think you're a little older than me I'm 28 yeah I'm 33 okay yeah damn it little all right well I think uh yeah I'll I'll let you get to your thing I think I had said we we'd kick it kick kick you off at five we're also dropping frames on the stream that I think are due to the uh to the video call right now so we got to let you go but are you hitting up with your are you hitting that 3.5 gab frame buffer limit and you're going into the secondary pool of memory maybe is that much slower it's much slower I think I what do I deserve in exchange for this no see this is the this is the like backup memory area right so that's why it's still working at all we should be thankful that the stream is still on and then it's not just dropping some frames this is this is the wait no I don't have my shill sweater on there that's much better memory boost .0 now it's like a shill Shaw right yeah like shill scarf nice as long as it doesn't turn into like a shill noose then we're good all right all right so before before before I go plug uh before you end your show go ahead and plug our YouTube channels and websites and everything so we can uh get do that now do that now want me do all right so pcp.com that's uh where you want to see all the stories on the 970 issue or the mobile gsync we've got that there and then uh we compete directly with lonus and Luke on YouTube right and nobody has enough time to watch any videos but if you go to youtube.com/ pcper you can see some of our crap there and try to figure out what all this L red light is behind me as well the red light district we can change it we can make it a green light district but I see unlike you I decided I don't want the background to be green if I'm G to sit here and talk about Nvidia stuff and so you but then I come on and you're wearing the the Nvidia hoodie that we got at the gsync editor day which is it's a it's a nice shirt it really is a nice isn't it I wanted one to be honest I I feel like I feel like such a corporate wearing it like I I put the thing on and then so it just adds the word corporate and then thank you and then that um and that uh that super nice one we got at the Maxwell event too at the 970 event that jacket the Jack W Breer yeah that is actually really nice I had I have worn that I when I went to Montreal a couple weeks ago I took that it was very nice um but I I don't let any I don't let myself wear it when I go out to other events I don't let myself wear it when we're on video like uh if Allan's here doing like a a storage video with me and he's got like an Intel skull logo t-shirt I'm like sorry you got to go change shirts we're not do on that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring those comments upon us so but hey I mean thanks for having me on guys and good luck the rest of your show all right take care man good to talk to you as always see you oh hold on hold on let me there we go you're good no thanks Ryan okay byebye by right all right so guys uh welcome back to our regularly scheduled content where we talk about things that happened this week yeah so the LG G4 is rumored to feature a 3K display let's go ahead and uh oh hold on a second here let me just make sure that I've while you're setting that up I'm going to do call outs for the U Starcraft League winners of January Kane won the official League which is like the not the tech Syndicate Kane no oh okay different no um k a y n won the official League which is like the UL members league and Commander Fett won the public league which is the best score against the public okay that is what is going on here I don't really oh I know what the issue is the issue is that my um my screen sharing is no longer working is is the is the a media plugged in yeah uh um did it fall out okay so Source uh try a different plug we can try again could it be a USB compatibility thing that's not it uh I I straight up don't understand uh what's going on here so we can remove that and then we can add camera and it will be correct wow I love this show okay so let's go ahead and the W show where we talk about things that happened last week carpel tunnel being old and we don't prep things yeah uh so the LG G4 to feature a 3K display this is rumored it showed up in some of the specs uh it's Al the rumors also point to a slightly smaller 5.3 in display it'll be 1620 by 2880 pixels which would be a pixel density of around 626 pixels per inch which is very impressive and completely necessary um the G3 had a 5.5 in display and a 2560 x440 uh p screen which resulted in 538 PPI and that was already kind of ridiculous so from 538 to 626 I already straight up couldn't tell um I don't have terrible eyes I'm wearing glasses this week but my close-up vision is just fine um and it doesn't make a difference past about 1080P and now going past 1440p it definitely doesn't make a difference what I would like to see instead is higher density displays in other form factors um most notably on the desktop because the issue actually this is something I talk about in our XPS 13 review um so that display is also a 3K display and the notebook is also available in a 1080p version Dell quotes the 1080ps battery life as 25% higher again you can force a Mobile screen to be smaller smaller well you're talking about laptops on phones you can force different resolutions oh yeah no that's fine I just mean the additional power required to drive all these pixels is something that I don't know if I necessarily agree on with a mobile device because and it should be noted that on the XPS 13 2015 found that's a lot of numbers um the 1080p models also tend to have lower spec CPUs so there's going to be some savings there as well and Dell is obviously just approximating you know these higher power models get about this much less so it's 12 hours on the high-end one and 15 hours on the low-end one in of rated battery it's a very significant difference yeah actually and I got to look at it and go well hold on a second like if we just if we just didn't worry so much about all these pixels that especially especially on a laptop where you're running Windows 8 and scaling is a complete disaster just doesn't make a ton of sense to meh all right Microsoft now pays ad block plus are you posting this one thing sure one thing we really need to remember with this article is that ad block plus is not the same as all the different versions there's block ad block plus other things that block ads um so this is specifically ad block plus who we've who we've given a hard time to on this show in the past about the whole Mafia style yeah um yeah you get paid for security or what protection protection money yeah yeah yeah um but it looks like Microsoft Google Amazon and tabula are all paying to have advertisements go unblocked on their websites for users that are running ad block plus so I don't know I don't know who they're trying to make happy here um obviously their users are not going to be super thrilled unless unless their users are those users who are only trying to block malicious ads for example yeah yeah and if if the idea was okay you know a site like microsoft.com is probably vetting the uh you know the ads making sure that there's no malicious code in them um if the idea is they're kind of going okay yeah you're paying us for the service of validating that your ads are not malicious okay I've had enough Devil's Advocate this is such nonsense yeah it's it's kind of ridiculous but I kind of think they're all ridiculous so I don't know um I'm kind of surprised like I don't know how much exactly they're paying but I'm kind of surprised these big companies are actually paying for that well the way that okay the way that the whole program works is much smaller websites like very small websites don't have to pay I think they just submit uh they they just submit an application to be whitelisted whereas much larger businesses are are intended to pay and guess Microsoft is prob doing it for MSN msn.com or whatever their like kind of homepage thingy where I think there is actually a bunch of ad I would imagine it's kind of across the board yeah but that's probably the one they're actually worried about MSN video would be another big one man the ads are obnoxious on MSN video every once in a while I kind of fall down the rabbit hole on on MSN video because they tend to have a lot of really short like 105 second you know stupid Clips clickable things yeah like and I'll just kind of and then I'll watch like another 30 second ad to see a 10-second video I'll be like yeah I've had enough and then that that that saves the rest of my evening um Time Warner Cable this is actually a great article this is posted by oh we should go back and uh Warrior surprising sorry oh oh keep Cy Warrior posted the 3K display one uh Good Bites posted about Adblock Plus and this one is from Victoria Secret do you want to go ahead and post this in the chat sure uh Time Warner Cables 97% profit margin on high-speed internet service exposed um actually the uh the digging that was done by the author of this article is not particularly deep I mean all he really had to do was look at some of the numbers that they are providing us on the the telephone and uh on The Voice side of things and and some other stuff and then kind of reverse engineer the numbers for high-speed internet and it raised is some really interesting questions if they're making 97% margin so he worked it out and he figures H where is it their average subscription is 40 something $ 43.92 per month and their average cost is a132 per month for the service that they're providing to that customer and he he raises some really interesting questions how did regulatory body ever look at this yeah who makes 97% margin on anything especially where it's been proven that there's essentially no competition in terms of isps in the states yeah it's esentially it's essentially localized monopolies yeah which is ridiculous so you're basically forcing Because the Internet is basically required at this point you're basically forcing people to buy something that you are serving them at a 97% profit margin which is insanity that's absolutely Insanity oh man it's also interesting that the uh reported uh it's it's reported that fees have increased by about 100% in a matter of two years for some customers yeah this was this seems like this is an article that uh the the author kind of had close to his heart because uh he was actually talking about how his personal Time Warner Cable basic triple play bill went up 112% in just 2 years from the advertised price of $89.99 to $19.77 that's insane it includes all kinds of fees and SAR charges and Rental this and uh one of them is a is a is a defunct social contract charge which is an extra $5 a month that hasn't actually been required apparently since 2001 um oh my God you should be able to get your money back for that yeah CU isn't that it shouldn't okay social cont what is that okay I think the fee was implemented and then taken off the bill but then the money is still being charged or something like that okay so time water is not necessarily taking that five no they're just jacking up the price yeah they're taking a $5 yeah no not necessarily that $5 is it a form of tax though like is this a government regulated thing uh I don't know too much about the social contract thing yeah cuz social contract sounds like some sort of oh yeah it was supposed to be to fund the upgrade to the network yeah yeah yeah like it that's what it was supposed to be for okay uh but oh so for it to funds I guess it could just go directly to them yeah oh that's if the Network's good enough then uh hey hey and it's not so hey so hey yeah how how about them social contract service charges you want to upgrade some things please I'm going to enter into my own social contract well some cities are they're installing their own networks and it's actually baller so um yeah so one of the ones I didn't bring up was franchise fees um yeah what does that even mean super gross so this is all based on 2013 records but I I mean I knew that they were doing just fine all we have to do is look at the you know all the commercial space they buy on TV and all the stadiums that these companies name and all this stuff we could look at it and go okay they're spending all that money and they're still doing fine um but I I had no idea it was 3% of the actual of it was the ACT about what like closed perfume and makeup are some of the most cuz printer ink yes printer ink like all those things that are just ridiculous where like the the nicest bottle of wine like ever is still very comparable to printer Inc in terms of prices uh I I don't remember that was an article a long time ago I had to I probably quoted it slightly wrong but it was ridiculous um yeah the bit about drinking the printer ink instead of the wine I think that was the part you screwed up that wasn't in there I didn't say that no you didn't anyways uh but it was funnier yes uh like that's nuts though that's absolutely ridiculous I wish our margin was 97% I guess what I could do is just slash all of your salaries I think that's illegal well this isn't this no that that isn't legal I said I think that is il legal isn't would mean that it's legal right I don't know if what they're doing is like actually documented as legal because there's there's questions to be brought up I this is a very old conversation so I won't delve into it for very long but where the government's like here's money to build this stuff then you just don't do it that should be under contract that should be illegal I don't think there's any punishment for that yeah there should be something there should be anyway we should carry on because that's a very old very goes out of business in Canada and says they're going to have amazing deals and my wife goes there on Thursday there should be amazing deals was there nothing apparently the stores were just the store was just like packed and people were buying things but she ended up leaving and going to Superstore to buy some garbage cans for the new office because she knew they were actually on sale um she the electronics department apparently was so full of people that there was a lineup to get in so she didn't didn't actually go to the electronics but apparently just cuz I I sent her there cuz we're going to need some Sundries for the new office and things like toilet paper you know cleaning supplies um stuff like that and I was like yeah just pick up some of that stuff I mean it should be like uber liquidation sale and apparently it's as simple as just saying you're having a liquidation sale and people come and they buy things they should just they should do that thing okay I don't know about you viewers but this is a total thing here grand opening and and like final closing sales thing furniture stores I swear every single furniture store on like um Bridgeport Road and uh and King George Boulevard and Richmond and sui like like you you drive through furniture storeand and especially the smaller ones not the Big Chain ones like half of them are having their moving sale or or liquidation sale or closing down final inventory close out s grand opening for like six years yeah there's actually a documented thing where one of the stores in BC had a grand opening sale for years and I mean like the the sign is faded you know yeah yeah yeah like it's old and faded and ripping what did you buy someone else's used Grand Opening sale sign and put it on or if you just ridiculous um all right so there's ah yes a new Intel consumer SSD 750 series uh pops up on a compatibility list so this is cool the code name is August Ridge it's the month I'm born in so it's probably like Illuminati confirmed anyway um it was on the road map for releasing Q4 2014 but that time has passed we're still hoping we can see it soon and if we do then that'll make Intel the first one to deliver an nvme compliant SSD so that would be an SSD that doesn't rely on the oldfashioned ahci uh software layer to interface with the controller so it would actually it's optimized for lower latency uh most mostly lower latency it's optimized for the lower latency PCI Express connections that new ssds are going to be connecting to whether it's over m.2 or over a standard PCI Express slot um capacities will be 180 240 360 480 and 600 gigs and um yeah that's honestly there isn't a ton to say I'm excited to see them in person fast rests are good yes for lots of things I me here's something you might not even consider you know if your SSD in your laptop or your phone is much higher performance okay ph's a bad example because we're not getting this in phones but on your laptop uh is is using uh PCI Express Bus and is using nvme the faster it can complete any transactions that it has to the more it's sitting there idle instead of working so as long as we get nice power efficient super high-speed ssds it's kind of like um it's kind of like how faster Wi-Fi actually benefits more than just you know oh okay there's less stuff sitting in the air essentially that's right that's right it makes everything else that's on that Network faster because you're not using up as much air time it's good yeah Sony has sold Sony Online Entertainment I that's I'm actually kind of surprised they sold it especially with the timing because H1 Z1 despite the highly controversial launch actually seemed to be doing pretty well well okay launch into early activ Early Access sorry I keep not posting links I keep forgetting to say who I've done I've posted all the other ones it's me and King cry for the last two posting on the Forum thanks guys this one is King cry um yeah like I is that even proper terminology now because that wasn't even a real launch was it I'm I'm pretty sure H1 Z1 is still in Early Access I think so yeah but then people were like oh my God the servers aren't good enough because Early Access literally doesn't mean Early Access anymore um you just buy the game you just bought the game you're playing the game anyways dumb but yeah apparently the company that bought it which has a terrible name of Daybreak game company well no that they renamed it to Daybreak game company yeah which is bought by was bought by like a holding company columus Nova yeah New York's B firm investment management firm but Daybreak game company really um they make games until they they work until so late at night the comes up that might actually be true if you're a programmer yeah so maybe not that far from the TR actually maybe it's the best name for a game company ever I just didn't like that they're called game company I don't know why I'm sure there's other ones out there called aren't we called I so I shouldn't have called us lonus Media company I have never said that that was a good name right I have forever said that that was a terrible name right moving on um what did you want like dish water R anything other than lus Media Group anyways um they're they're looking into they they said that they want to fully embrace the multiplatform world in which we all live so that's bringing up theories that they're going to bring H1 Z1 to consoles which is probably not too surprising and mobile you just said H1N1 to consoles did I yeah hopefully we're bringing viruses to consoles H1 Z1 is what I meant to say uh and apparently interested in possible mobile crap in the future so nothing was interesting for us not all mobile stuff is crap um Square Enix keeps remaking Final Fantasy ver mobile those are good games oh Pokemon Pokemon Blue is a mobile game bam no technically yes not the mobile I'm currently talking about you just you just got trashed son but technically yes that is not wrong okay uh oh this is a shame this was posted by Good Bites brutal this is like like I I'll post it in the chat this is like a supreme ouch moment um do you know how oh you're posting the broken ones let me let me do the posting fine um this is great so oh it broke again all right please stop breaking andity boity no okay I don't know oh can they hear us yeah that's not what I meant to do now we're really big hi everyone yeah this is a fairly large area that I'm in I've always been really big larger larger than the area that we normally are when we're showing the now we're gone oh you know what's kind of fun know what's kind of fun just start talking go just go I I think this is a terrible idea okay I got Apple will spend two billion to turn its failed Sapphire plant into a global Command Center so you know how the rumor was that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would feature sapphire glass screens and there was that viral video that Marcus brownley made where he tried to scratch it and he bent it and was like w sapphire glass is kind of amazing okay you can put us in the corner now um sapphire glass is amazing well the company that Apple was actually had actually thrown a lot of money at and who had committed to deliver the volume of sapphire glass that Apple required in order to integrate this product onto not just the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus but lots of their lots of their products including the Apple watch well they GT Advanced Technologies like straight up realized that they couldn't it and for bankruptcy so the uh 1.3 millionare foot building that Apple built to manufacture sapphire glass will be um not for that they're going to make it a data center yeah which makes sense repurpose the building if you can't do it but it's pretty brutal for a few reasons they could fil it with trampolines that would be awesome trampolines would do and uh the the ball pits not my company would fill it with trampolines not air conditioning trampolines mind you but definitely try uh I have bad news by the way the HVAC is definitely on hold for the new office we are putting in the hold on just just calm down we are and and and okay funny story funny story you might laugh um we are not only not going to have air conditioning we're not going to have eat I didn't yeah because it's going to be a combo unit I thought it would be when we put it in um so the good news is we're putting in the ducting so we can install hbac later but we cannot afford it right now this the sound the sound dampening that we need to do in the warehouse is have you figured more about that I I have figured out more about that more research is being done it's going to be very expensive is it looking positive into the buy some pizza and do it ourselves um I'm not sure okay yeah not sure okay so sorry what were we talking about right trampolines right they're repurposing it for data center you know cloud storage and all that kind of stuff is all is all yes un the the part that I was getting to sorry I was trying to remember what I was trying talk about um the the really sucky part in my opinion is that it will now create 150 full-time jobs and 300 to 500 construction jobs temporarily that sounds pretty cool except that it was supposed to create 2,000 jobs permanently bummer now it's 150 that's a nasty drop it's one of the largest Investments Apple has ever made and although of those 150 it's probably like data center people so people in the audience might be more able to be hired than the sapphire plant so that might be good for like our group of people but it's not good for the overall Employment Number all right so this is actually look at this good news from Ubisoft I think this is good yeah but it's like good because they're reeling back from terrible oh it wasn't okay it's like they shot someone and then they're like hold on let me let me fix that they patch the hole stood by while someone else got shot little bit of disinfectant they stood by how did they stand by they shot this gun no they didn't yes they did well they didn't they didn't okay let's hold on let's try's someone punched them in the face they shot some other dude and they're like crap okay that's actually the bad guy let me patch this someone else robbed their Bank okay okay so they so someone else no no someone else robbed their bank so they went and stole stuff from everyone that's ever used their Bank no someone okay Robin Hood let's say let's say Robin Hood okay like dirty Robin Hood who's in it for the profit to himself so definitely not Robin Hood not Robin Hood so a thief yes okay so we're gonna call him dirty Robin okay so dirty Robin busts into the bank takes um money okay but but not like uh not just like us cash let's say this happens in America okay but they don't take us cash they take all the foreign currency okay that for some reason people want no let's say it happens in Canada okay just just you just no I'm going let's go okay okay so they break into a Canadian Bank no one wants Canadian currency because it's plummeting right now so they take all the US currency okay and then instead of Distributing it to the poor they sell it to the poor for Canadian currency that they then convert to something useful like Bitcoin and then they have money I'm I'm well relatively useful it got a little weird at the end okay okay okay so so that's what happened followed you yeah the Ubisoft the the bank the bank thank you the Ubisoft Bank basically invalidated the foreign currency serial numbers that were stolen because it was stolen goods so they stole a stolen property it is illegal to buy stolen goods but they bought it from a legitimate store so we missed we screwed up part of that story okay so but will they stool the money from a legitimate bank doesn't I wasn't commenting on that at all I was to saying we missed the part where like they they sold it to a store that you would normally buy legitimate things from so the people that bought it no no no uh the people that stole from the bank a bank with a store in it oh I see what you're saying cuz they're not buying the money yeah no you said they sold the money yeah they sold well they exchanged the exchanged the money so they were a bank so a bank stole money from a bank and then sold it to other Banks and then people bought it from the yeah and then they cancelled the bank money okay you know what why don't I just so basically Ubisoft is reactivating Far Cry 4 keys that were invalidated due to um okay you know what why don't you just do this because apparently I can't handle it okay so I'm so lost now I actually had like the I had everything for the story ready and now I'm just screwed um essentially there's a whole bunch of keys uh stolen through apparently G2 a whole bunch of keys were sold through g2a which were stolen or something from other online retailers or whatever so Ubisoft just went and like canceled everyone who had bought it from other retailers um although I don't think that's actually a proper general statement it's said in the article that way but I'm pretty sure steam ones weren't cancelled and that's technically not you play right okay so I don't really can you even buy far I remember didn't we buy Far Cry 4 through Steam we did yeah we did but then I don't even remember there's something weird going on with you play in Far Cry 4 I don't remember how all that stuff went down but anyways a lot of keys got invalidated because uh they were stolen or they assumed to be stolen or whatever even if they were purchased from sites that would traditionally have been seen as the legitimate way to buy things um and g2a has I think some form of protection or something so people that got that are no matter what being taken care of people that didn't are like probably being taken care of and right I don't know their angle is super weird but yeah then Ubisoft went like okay I think we need to like invalidate the ones that we think are currently stolen but not necessarily activated and let people play that actually paid for it at some point okay yeah okay so they're like kind of trying to they're kind of trying to fix it here so Ubisoft got screwed over actually yeah pretty hard and then they retaliated heavier than they probably should have in terms of Saving Face right so dirty Robin took their stuff and then they basically strung up everyone he sold it to from a they did like the superhero recovery mode which where like they destroy half the city while trying to get the villain right yes okay speaking of which we had this conversation the other night I am like so excited for Incredibles 2 I know it's like not even close and there aren't even like teaser trailers yet but any there's nothing we can show you this is not an article yeah this is not this is not a thing be a really good talking about the other night um speaking of things we were talking about the other night we actually have some sponsors for the show today look at that linda.com you can learn it we've actually you know what's really sexy uh intelligence intell yes that is a great point so linda.com increase your sex appeal and only actually it doesn't even take like any period of time because you can start 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why do you have to bring up that song every time because I didn't know a single lyric When We sang it I know you you didn't you didn't do your pre-show prep and now you're rubbing that in my face like I did something wrong so um guys if you if you missed it you can check out squarespace's Super Bowl commercial that we actually previewed last week with the Jeff Bridges whole Jeff Bridges that project that he's working on with the sound recording but that is really not the point of Squarespace they've got a new slogan build it beautiful I think that actually is not a bad slogan it's certainly better than the slogans we were working on earlier we we came up with some pretty bad ones did I show you the one that I liked though um oh oh it was uh we Tech things seriously yeah no yeah yeah yeah yeah I like that one yeah that I thought that one was pretty funny we have some other like really terrible puny stuff uh anyway so build it that is kind of the point Squarespace wants the web to be 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this was like a crazy I think this drop is actually over so I'm sorry guys I'm just like showing you cool stuff Mass drop has that you can't buy but it's a full PBT key cap set with like custom Star Trek themed Spacey lettering like airlock key and like phase key resan for clan key oh so it's mostly designed for people who already know what the keys are supposed to be we should we should get super affordable though we should get Nick Van Burl a keyboard that has a phas clan key on it then every single time that he presses it it just plays the audio clip we should probably do that actually that would be a good super fun just like how to do it how to yeah like if we just make like a Phase Clan button yep that's actually toally doe we should totally make that that drop is on until tomorrow oh that's what our link goes to is the keycap set all right thank you nips once again I have no idea what's going on I do have two he might as well stay he does have notes on I just want to make it clear he does have notes on his screen he just doesn't look at they're actually not technically on his screen right now he's like he he he not only moved the screen away but he put a different window in front of it there's your issue so there's like two layers of Defense from the knowledge okay well they have other cool things that are over but the point is they have lots of stuff that isn't just keyboards so this is the uh graffiti graffiti Lin something yeah anyway so it's a little tiny USB charging cable they've got a lightning one they've got a micro USB one we've actually featured a very similar product before on handy Tech under 100 um so they've got like cool little stuff like that and this I wasn't really sure about even bringing up on the show we don't generally talk about weapons a weapon okay a gun is not a weapon you call it a firearm okay I'm serious if you go get your gun Licensing in BC you call it a firearm or they will not give you your license so the fact that I called this a weapon means I should have as a Yes mine you can use it technically as a weapon but you don't describe it as a weapon and you don't use it as a weapon it just can be you can use a kitchen pot as a weapon it is actually done in very many times in movies you can use basic you're you're I could use your BS logic is going to be it happens in movies therefore you could hit you can't start a sentence with that you could hit someone with a frying pan and that would hurt a lot I can't take you seriously do you want to fight me with a frying pan No I don't want to fight you with a frying pan that is not the point that we're talking about at all the point is draw. slw show for awesome drops like this one bring it back around to the to hand why do I even let you co-host this show with me a a a frying pan could be very easily used as a weapon that would hurt I didn't say it couldn't be used as a weapon I just said the fact that it appears in movies is a complete I said it could be and then I said in fact it is as an additional Point not as a main point that was a supporting article supporting supports nothing speaking of for my thesis on on on weapon variability speaking of supporting nothing uh consoles may get 4k support uh sometime in Q4 this is good this is actually really helpful and can you actually do your job and post this the twitch chat the the reason why this is really helpful is this might bring more uh 4K content like Netflix and stuff might push for more 4K content because of compatibility on other things so non console people might actually get more 4K content that they can watch um through that thanks to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One um finally joining 4 years ago well okay well okay you could play 4K video easily for quite a while on a PC in terms of a hardware but then the PS4 and the Xbox one already have the horsepower to play back 4K video it's not freaking complicated um the problem is that they don't have a display interface that's capable of playing back 4K video and we haven't had that on the PC for that long it has been a couple years a good point but display port 1.2 is when we got that on the PC like affordably without you know multi multi- linking multiple interfaces right two monitors and bizel chopping or whatever yeah so what it seems like they were waiting for was HDMI 2.0 and I suspect since it's already I mean it it hopefully the article covers this um I don't remember anymore but I I don't think we're going to be looking at 4K gaming anytime soon because that would be a serious as I told Hardware revision it could it it just have to do puzzle bble yeah the arcade games or whatever like it would you're not going to do yeah you might do arcade gaming stuff that's about it so like 4K Stickman Adventures 201 Edition uh maybe Tetris unless they put too many cool graphics in they've done that sometimes but then now that I think about it no they already have HDMI1 .4 they could technically do HDMI video playback already at 30 FPS this actually got said as to no longer be an official statement anyways so so moving on cuz Netflix is the one that said it and then they're like oh wait we can't talk on behalf of those guys so yeah that's about it three months later Android 5.0 Lollipop uh the last one was posted by crater and this one's posted by good bites has only 1.6% market share wow we that is uh not a hell heck of a lot um especially given that Android operating systems come in at the whopping price of absolutely nothing yeah uh to run on anything so this means this means a couple of things um it or it could mean a couple of things number one it could mean that KitKat was just fine um and handset ERS Andor users simply don't feel the need to update uh number two is it could mean that the devices that come pre-loaded with lollipop like the Nexus 6 uh Nvidia Shield tablet Nexus 9 um just aren't selling that well but I really don't think that's it because the Android install base is so massive I mean to put it in the appropriate context Jelly Bean is still in the lead yeah and there have been some pretty successful Kit Kat based devices um so I don't think that's it and then number three and this is the one that I personally think is most likely the handset makers that are validating lollipop are finding it just kind of a bear to deal with and roll out to their devices um droid turbo was sold with the promise of quick update to lollipop I mean we're 3 months in that's not exactly quick these days um so so there you go I mean I personally wasn't that impressed with lollipop but Google has acknowledged the memory leak issue um that they're hopefully going to be fixing and I think it was going to be a 5.1 update of the people that I know that have uh volli poop it it I I haven't actually heard usually when there's a new phone OS you're like oh there's all these cool new things about it like look at this new thing I can do blah blah blah blah blah no nothing really I hear some frustrations about like how notifications work and how you have to scroll through them and stuff and that's about it just some frustrations have some extra clicks um all for the sake of material design yeah that's that's about all I've heard is I have to do more things to be able to get stuff done the thing that really annoyed me most and maybe this is petty cuz Brandon doesn't seem to care he's running a Nexus 5 with lollipop um is removing the dividing lines between all the characters on the keyboard yeah why do you need to do that yeah don't why don't you have uh better things to do swift key um oh yeah yeah but whenever I whenever I fire up a new phone fresh install I try to use it until it makes me mad and then that's my benchmark for whether it was good enough so so if I have if I end up switching to swift key it's like how long did it take me to switch to swift key that's how good their stock keyboard is well their stock keyboard is about a two and a half week yeah it's a two it's a two and a half week until it frustrates you start start giving it like its own values Ivon uh recently switched to the 1 M8 and it was a one day keyboard for her the uh the the the sense sense keyboard wow she was like this is terrible cuz she'd been using the phone before and uh I was like no no it's okay I can change it she's like no it's okay I'm like no no I'll change it for you and so I put in swift key I put in the number row I removed swipe and then I changed the delay for um for special characters I do every single one of those are my essential essential settings for swift key and she was like oh this is great this is much better um dual GPU cards and configurations this is posted by assassin and we are of course going to use the WCC F Tech link because we love trolling you guys um M oh really wrecked wrecked wreck wrecked this is annoying it's probably a loose connection somewhere I blame you you set it up all right I'll try not to add the wrong camera this time I blame your feet I blame your on table I blame your face you're probably bumping things what is going on here well whatever um we should just like glue in all the connections so new lowlevel apis like uh anle and DirectX 12 may allow game developers to combine the video memory of multiple graphics cards so the Autobon Hammer that 24 gig uh system that we built with three 29x 8 gig cards could potentially have 24 gigs of video memory now to be clear this is at least in the short term completely purposeless because no game developer is going to build a game that is going to take advantage of 24 games not even just that I'm gonna quote a a little bit long quote here but still quote just because they're running uh Windows 10 and dx12 and or mantle API does not mean that your multi-gpu configuration is now stacking memory the capability is present in these low-level overhead apis but they will not come into effect until Dev specifically optimize the games as such right so not only is there no games that can really use that much VM right now but the devs are going to have to do it themselves and looking at how long it takes them to even have multi-gpu profiles at launch half the freaking time I don't see that many devs really doing this at least not now so yeah so don't get your hopes up there will probably be some sponsored titles I mean this is not just a PC feature this is like a super esoteric PC feature that a very small subset of that PC audience is going to be able to leverage so uh so that's cool and that's I'm very happy that it exists um one thing that's very cool about this is that uh well it's mantle so it'll probably come to like everything else as well and if it starts being available in kind of everything and then hopefully starts being available as just a plug-in that developers can do instead of uh having to manually code things for that then that would be nice so not now but future speaking of speaking of mantle and direct X12 this is actually an article I was reading oh for crying out loud right I don't have screen share uh sorry is this a linkable thing uh can I link this just on an unch oh you're going to do it there okay yeah I'll just do it here um I just want to share the article that's all yeah so I'll just add screen region bity Boop uh here's my browser enjoy okay there we go uh the direct X12 performance preview AMD Nvidia and star swarm so Ryan Smith over at Anon uh put together some explanations of blippity bloop you can read all that if you want here's the star swarm demo and the test and here are the results so on cards that support direct deck 11 12 and mantle we get to see all three results and for cards that don't support mantle and video cards uh we get to see DirectX 11 and 12 so uh G GTX 9 980 gets more than a doubling in performance moving from directex 11 to direct X2 and we've also got on the AMD cards direct x 12 and mantle performing within spitting distance of each other pretty well across the board mantle winning in every case but definitely within spitting distance yeah yes mantle does does Edge out direct X12 in every case but I think that if people were hoping that mantle was going to be the reason to own an AMD card um they're I think well basically if they work at AMD um then I think they're going to be a little bit disappointed because the thing is that star swarm is kind of a a worst case scenario it is designed to Showcase scenarios where there are far too many draw calls for directx11 to be able to handle it efficiently and to create CPU bottlenecks it's designed to do that whereas real games these differences that you see between mantle and direct X1 we've already seen that in real games you're not looking at a doubling of performance from from direct X1 to mantle you're looking at maybe a couple of percent a few percent um so that difference between mant and directx12 will be a fraction of a fraction of that other bigger difference that ended up being much smaller yeah so and then if we do end up doing that which we probably will eventually end up using all that performance um DirectX 12 will have well we might not even be on DirectX 12 at that point we might be further on but that Gap probably will have closed at least a little bit anyways yes but yeah it's it's a little bit disappointing that it has to be has to lean so much on developers we're seeing so many things come out these days where uh to quote Balmer developers developers developers ey tracking leans on developers VR leans on developers this leans on developers so much stuff is doing that and it's uh yeah as a developer right now I would be scared and excited at the same time all right speaking of being scared and excited this was posted by Alex Goes High Razer has upgraded the blade with Maxwell and more importantly for me since I'm a bit of a tab fiend more RAM so the blade is now available with a gtx970m instead of an 870m and 16 gigs of RAM is now an option on the higher end skew you still have that same high resolution exop panel display Luke is I'm trying to fix it doing things here I got kind of a funny idea uh so which one is this this is this one oh what the oh what are you doing I was going to I was going to give them like a behind the scenes of what you were doing well I'm trying to coniger the a med actually I'm just going to point it at your butt why are you doing that why would I not do that I don't know this doesn't seem like very high quality show content hello look at my nose what you got going on down there well there's computer cables and carpet and video cables and video cables oh look a wheel hey a foot oh why don't you wear Footwear at work uh because I don't want to right okay why don't you have air conditioning installed uh because it's expensive but where's expensive that's true Footwear not the kind you would buy no nothing you would buy is expensive no um okay they upgraded the CPU from an i7 4702 HQ to an i747 20hq that movement of the two is actually very important that signifies a TDP jump from 37 to 47 Watts uh which the more efficient 970m allowed although personally I probably would have opted for more battery and uh not bother with that minuscule gain in CPU performance um there's also a new lower-end version with a 1080p display and 256 gig SSD for 2 Grand still very expensive commenting on the CRT um oh the CRT yeah the CRT is for uh retro games mhm next so I I guess here I'll post this one I'll let you uh I'll let you handle this one or we I guess we could both handle this one so the FCC will declare the internet title 2 and apply net neutrality rules to mobile yeah that is awesome so great news wheeler did a bit of a jump face and started actually supporting the people that he's supposed to which is cool um and started backing up saying like oh yeah well we we we've listened to uh the communities and the people and all this kind of stuff for once apparently um and now yeah title 2 and blah blah blah there's some kind of sketchy things in this I'm not going to go over too much over title 2 as we've covered that in previous episodes but uh they want to modernize title 2 we were talking about this before the show um I actually just kind of skimmed over it initially thought that modernized title 2 just kind of meant that they're going to modernize the infrastructure behind title 2 like the physical infrastructure behind title 2 apparently they might be uh changing kind of how it works but a lot of it should be in terms of uh where's his exact wording for it tailoring it for the 21st century in order to provide returns necessary to construct competitive Network so so so yeah we're talking about the physical infrastructure changing and the rules of of title 2 altering to enable that to happen but if we if we were to take the optimistic approach to that statement and go oh it's to it's to prevent the kind of nonsense that's already been going on for the last decade with the internet um then then that that's great I mean some of the other points here no rate regulation no tariffs no Last Mile unbundling um and this means the action we take will be strong enough and flexible enough not only to deal with the realities of today but also to establish ground rules for the as yet unimagined the internet must be fast far and open this is the message I've heard if we're to sort of believe all this then this is incredibly good news it seems like too much of an about face for it all to be positive I feel like there has to be something and I'm worried about that that could be my like pessimism coming out but I mean the theory is that the FCC is supposed to be on the side of the consumer but they like haven't really shown that until now which is sketchy yeah I uh I just I just I mean I I got to wonder where they was he keeping quiet just because he didn't want to shake the boat yet and this was the plan all along I mean uh he brings up uh I don't think this is in our notes but it was in the article but he brings up a company that he used to work for that got uh contr F the nabo yeah I it's called Naboo it is in the notes is it tells the story of NAB the home computer network a competitor to AOL a startup that he was the president of that failed because networks acted as Gatekeepers so I mean you know was he was he on our side all this time I I I don't know don't really think so but maybe didn't look that way no um speaking of not being on our side this was posted by powder banks that last one was from Smitty shei and the previous one was from Alex Goes high and then the previous one was from assassin well we didn't do any for a bit um China will require real name registration for use of the internet and we're not talking real name registration like you have to pay for your internet service from your provider and you have to pay them with a credit card that has your name attached to it we're talking about the burden being put on isps and internet companies to enforce the new rules which are that the 650 million people who are online in China need to be personally identifiable online in their goings about super dumb I just now can I play Devil's Advocate or you just gonna get mad are you get all mad I know can you just stay calm for like two seconds thank you you know those are all things that just make people mad I know when you say okay um so okay so the The Devil's Advocate sort of um glass half full side of this is oh it will reduce you know uh inappropriate internet behaviors like swatting or trolling or or bullying or just just can you just I said two seconds two seconds I didn't get mad you I was watching you in the screen I saw what you did uh so let me take not being being identifiable online will lead to more personal accountability for one's actions when they go about their business online that is the that is the devil's advocate sort of version of that now what I actually personally think is that it's not going to help with that at all I mean there are sites and there are communities where they have tried to enforce uh people using their real names um didn't seem to help a whole lot with go+ um so so there's there's that but aside from aside from it not working the fact that there are communities that already have this that encourage the use of real names like Facebook means that if people wanted to engage in that way then they would go to those sites and they would do it this way we're not giving people a choice and it feels less like a benevolent sort of Nod to you know high school kids who are getting bullied and more of a way to keep tabs on what people are doing and what they're saying and in the context of of you know someone's being a dick to me on Twitter I guess yeah I would probably like to know who that person is so I can call their mom so that I can be like yo do you have any idea what your little crap turd of a son just said to me or daughter whatever you know gender equality um girls can be rude online too um so so that side of me is like yeah this is great but the flip side is you know what if someone lives in a country where they're oppressed for their religion or their or anything else about them and they can't they can't find other people they can't find support that's that's a huge problem where if they need to speak out against their government online or get access to news sources that are not censored by their local government I mean having anonymity as you browse the web is incredibly important can I talk now all right get all mad I'm not no I'm not getting mad you said uh because you you you Devil's Advocate and then you went back which is weird as a devil's advocate to well I didn't say I was a good Advocate you fought against yourself for way longer than you fought for Devil's advoc you were like here's some small points now I'm going to destroy myself like okay sure um you said less swatting and less trolling I think those are specifically totally wrong I think they'll be way more swatting cuz swatting is anonymous for the person that's doing it unless it's not and if every internet user was identifiable on every site that they're using right you could pick up a phone but if you pick up a phone then that's tied to your landline I'm assuming any any regime regime that's requiring you to register online proba knows there's always ways to file Anonymous yeah that's true information Anonymous information and that's how like basically okay squatting bad example online bullying though perhaps online bullying yes but this could pull more bullying and more trolling into the real world which is a lot worse than being bullied and trolled online not that we're saying online bullying isn't real and isn't a problem it's just no but saying I'm going to punch you in the face and actually punching someone in the face are very different things I would way rather someone goes I'm going to punch you in the face on on a keyboard and then finish the game we're playing in and go on to other matchmaking instead of having them go Kabam in real life right and now obviously not every time that happens is it going to happen but when people can't vent their frustration in that way uh it might happen more in the real world this is actually something that's been happening in terms of uh studies with violent video games a lot which is where a lot of people can use it as a venting mechanism instead of actually doing it it reduces violent crimes by a lot where you can play like GTA and just do stupid crap and then go play golf afterwards in GTA um is actually helping reduce a lot of the like violent crappy things you might do in real life because you can you can vent it's an interesting idea and if you're removing all of that that's actually not a good thing I'm not advocating for trolling on the internet I think trolling on the Internet is stupid the amount of crap that happened on The Forum over the 970 thing was ridiculous and like totally not okay and I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people on The Forum but I'm happy that wasn't a whole bunch of people standing in a building fighting each other cuz that would have been worse like I don't know this is fairly like straightforward stuff I don't know all right so let's move on to something that's also fairly straightforward uh this was posted by nine shadow on the Forum the Samsung Galaxy S6 chassis has been leaked allegedly uh it looks like it's going to have an all metal non removable back uh appears to look fairly similar to the iPhone Ione 6 I'd love to show it to you guys uh actually Galaxy S6 here we go blah blah blah blah blah chassis leak okay blue okay let's go come on Forbes hate that thing continue to site here we go so here's the article from Forbes where they're showing how very Apple like the alleged Galaxy S6 chassis is going to look that is very they're going to get the pants suit off of them yeah that seems very possible so let's go ahead and tuck tuck that away for now tuck tuck yep um I think there's a reference there that I missed a few people will get that so it's going to use glass material in the front and back some of them are apparently going to have like curved curved screens uh like curved Edge screens and some of them are not um Samsung pay is said to be embedded in the phone good luck with that Samsung um might be based on magnetic emitting that mimics your credit card so not NFC uh potentially accepted in 10 million points of sale without retooling existing machines I still wish them luck although Apple pay is apparently only available in 200 100,000 spots for me it's more of a trust issue and less of a um like trusting the technology Apple does a good job know I hear you yeah um complely agree apparently the rear will be non- removable so as much as the S5 was not a huge success for Samsung and I think that's kind of putting it lightly I think that taking away the things that made the Galaxy S the Galaxy S um things like removable battery is probably not like I I don't I don't see an iPhone 6 clone being a way to win new customers and I don't see taking away the things that sold your phone to someone else a generation or two ago being to retain your existing customers so I really have to wonder what exactly is the plan here right now or if it's real or if it's even real yeah could be totally fake so there's that I I really wonder sometimes these things are freakishly accurate so it it could be right but it's it's is really close yes more often than not Yep this is really really close I have to clarify something I think a few people in the chat thought I meant that people attacking in video on the Forum was super bad I wasn't talking about that I was talking about personal insults going to each other yeah we don't want members fighting we don't care if people are upset with that's like a rule on the Forum you're allowed to attack companies you're not all sh sweater bring back the shill sweater so you can attack lonus on the forum for wearing a shill sweater CU that's fine but you can't attack lonus for well actually you can attack lonus on fair game we that's what I'm saying we don't we don't count we are members but we don't count you can attack us and you can attack companies but don't attack other members of The Forum that's not a thing if you disagree with what they're saying use an intelligent argument to talk about how you disagree with what or better yet don't reply no because there could be intelligent argument yeah then don't reply yeah if they seem to be stuck in their way yeah yep recognize when people are trolling you like this right now yeah you did that at really good timing you owe me a coke I don't want a Coke I think you already owed me a coke from our last text Jinks yeah we'll call it even we can just buy each other nothing that works better for me all right so the Nintendo creators program which was already ridiculous so you guys I mean if you've been following this whole Fiasco Nintendo was claiming monetization against uh let's players and game streamers who were streaming their games um you know based on that they're using the in-game music and artwork without um having created it themselves when the content creators the guys who are playing the games are are arguing that it's actually their commentary that is the content and this is a fair use whatever anyway um so Nintendo sort of about faced on that and created the Nintendo creators program that would allow creators to register as approved creators um and then they started introducing that they want a share of the revenue so I believe it's a 6040 split by default and now now they are offering a 7030 split if creators are willing to remove any non Nintendo content from their videos like non- Nintendo games like are they for real this is there isn't even a debate for us to have like are they are they are they even I I said this before the show this GNA be kind of a boring topic because there's you like can't really have another stance I can't even Devil's Advocate you like what do you want 5% I I even no I even I even tried to to I like I don't know if you remember this but back when they first started claiming monetization that was back when we were doing Nintendo streams on the Afterparty I was like well I kind of get it it is their music and it is their asset and in much the same way that if I put someone else's music as a backdrop to w show they could claim the monetization from it well okay yeah I I guess so but if you're going to then go and say well no okay we do understand the benefit that game streamers and let's players have especially for titles like a Super Smash Brothers for example where there is no there is no entertainment in the viewing experience that overlaps with the entertainment of the playing experience spectating Super Smash and playing Super Smash are two distinctly different experiences and the people who are into that might not necessarily have been into that and weren't going to buy it anyway necessarily and the people who want to play it story driven watching it is not a replacement so particularly for games like that or like a Mario Kart these are these are great examples of competitive style stuff different experiences viewing versus playing um so so Nintendo has acknowledged oh maybe there is a benefit to this maybe we shouldn't take all the money away from people who are driving eyeballs to our to our games um but then they go and they kind of they want to like nickel and dime these people like oh no we like really need the revenue so badly because Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are not selling really well and the entire Internet isn't hyped over the moon about the upcoming Zelda game pretty well right now yeah Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are specifically doing pretty good right now so they should like not do this cuz they're probably fine it's frustrating so basically we don't even game stream but we think this is ridiculous you game stream yeah yeah so that's ridiculous um I've I've done game streaming of Nintendo content because I just don't care I'm not into it for that I want to play freaking Mario Kart so like whatever leave me alone yeah it helps that you have a day job yes but I mean it's one of those things where you know it's it's easy for us to say yeah if we want to stream game we're really not going to give to craps about it because our day job is making Tech videos but for people who do rely on it this is extremely frustrating and this is the kind of problem that we do potentially face in the future where it's powers that be that control our Revenue stream not us it's funny I actually I saw a comment on uh I think it was on whole room water cooling something anyway U someone asked what do these guys do for a living and uh I was I was about to reply and I saw there was already a reply I think they build computers I'm like what how can you watch our videos and not know that we make videos for a living uh some people don't understand how long it takes to make it I guess that's true yeah I mean actually you know what perfect example of this um my wife Yvonne had no idea how long b-roll takes for the upgraded new and improved Linus Tech tips format cuz Brandon was over at my house which is the only place where there's enough room to set up that oo gaming cockpit for which by the way is coming out this weekend pretty excited for that I'm going to watch that one yeah um so he was over filming it and we were there for like you know 5 hours and she was like yeah I had no idea it takes so long like yeah and the editing takes even longer than that so there I me there's pre-production and then there's actual filming which is actually by far the shortest part yeah scripting writing fil uh editing uh testing things learning about the product roll all those things take a lot longer than me standing there and reading off a teleprompter Nick testing the actual video setting it live at the right time yeah the Forum topic all that stuff there's tons of things all right well I think that's pretty much it for the L show for tonight you guys are awesome and we thank you for watching really hot in here I know it's getting hot in here so turn off all the clothes I am getting hot I will take my clothes off then their monetization for the stream was stolen TGI Friday TG oh every time I hear that I think of the restaurant yeah but I know the restaurant's not the original no mop your squares spaces with knowledge learn about how things fall I'm just going to cut you off\n"