The Art of Getting Used to New Technology: A Personal Reflection

It's no secret that technology is constantly evolving and can sometimes feel overwhelming. For me, getting used to a new keyboard was like holding a different controller. I recall playing Golden Eye on my Nintendo 64 downstairs, still having it for that console, and wondering why I needed the remastered 4K version on the Nintendo Switch. In this day and age, we're not as far removed from those childhood memories as we think. Generationally speaking, we're in a stage where certain games were designed with us in mind, making them effortlessly accessible.

I finally decided to play Golden Eye on my Xbox One S, and it was incredible – the Nostalgia level was off the charts! Playing a classic game like Golden Eye on modern hardware brought back memories of playing with friends downstairs. We would get together for four-player matches in split-screen mode, completely immersed in the action. The experience was so immersive that I couldn't believe how much it had aged well.

However, my experience with the Xbox controller was quite different from what I expected. The C buttons, which were mapped to the second analog stick, caused me a lot of confusion. I tried various controller configurations, but nothing seemed to work until I stumbled upon the Domino configuration. This was an interesting moment for me, as I realized that sometimes, it's not about the technology itself, but how we adapt to it.

When it comes to mechanical keyboards, I've found that getting used to them can be a bit of an adjustment. For instance, I use a wrist rest made by Kyron, which is attached directly to my keyboard (the Q1 Pro). This allows me to maintain a comfortable typing position and adjust as needed. The keyboard itself features red switches, which provide a nice balance between noise level and feedback.

I've also experimented with brown switches, but they tend to be louder than the red ones I prefer. One of the benefits of using mechanical keyboards is the tactile feedback they offer. When you type on a mechanical keyboard, the keys "pop back into place" quickly, which can be quite satisfying. This tactile feedback has become an essential aspect of my typing experience.

In recent years, I've noticed that some of these keyboards come with unique features or designs. For example, I recently stumbled upon the Q1 Pro, which is a high-end mechanical keyboard with customizable switches and a built-in wrist rest. Unfortunately, this keyboard was only available on Kickstarter, so I had to pre-order it before its availability.

One thing I've learned about mechanical keyboards is that they're not just about functionality but also personal preference. Some people love the sound of certain switches or the feel of specific keys. For me, the Q1 Pro has become an essential tool for my daily typing needs. The key is finding a keyboard that works for you and makes you happy.

The Process of Getting Used to New Technology

One thing I've come to realize is that getting used to new technology can be a bit like learning a new skill. It takes time, patience, and practice to adjust to the feel and functionality of something new. When it comes to mechanical keyboards, this can mean taking some time to get accustomed to the different switches, key layout, or wrist rest.

The most important thing is to remember that everyone's experience with technology is unique. What works for someone else might not work for you, so it's essential to experiment and find what feels comfortable. I often think about Golden Eye as an example of how certain games were designed with our generation in mind. While some things may seem old or outdated to us now, they still hold a special place in our hearts.

Getting used to new technology can be a bit like trying a different controller. It takes time and practice to get the hang of it, but once you do, it becomes second nature. The same principle applies to mechanical keyboards – with patience and experimentation, you'll find what works best for you.

The Future of Mechanical Keyboards

One exciting development in the world of mechanical keyboards is their growing popularity. There are many enthusiasts out there who swear by certain switches or key layouts, making it essential to explore different options before finding the perfect fit. For me, the Q1 Pro has become an integral part of my typing experience.

The N64 controller is another interesting example of how technology can bring us closer to our childhood memories. While playing Golden Eye on the Xbox One S was a blast from the past, it's also a reminder that some experiences are timeless. By embracing new technologies and adapting to their unique characteristics, we can rediscover the joy of gaming and typing.

The Importance of Community

When it comes to exploring new technology or finding the perfect mechanical keyboard, it's essential to have a supportive community behind you. For me, engaging with fellow enthusiasts and hearing about their experiences has been invaluable. Whether it's through social media platforms like Twitter or Mastodon, online forums, or even podcast discussions, there are many resources available for those looking to explore the world of mechanical keyboards.

By sharing knowledge, tips, and personal anecdotes, we can help each other navigate the process of getting used to new technology. This sense of community is crucial when it comes to embracing innovation and pushing ourselves outside our comfort zones.

In conclusion, getting used to new technology – whether it's a keyboard or a controller – requires patience, practice, and experimentation. By embracing these principles and tapping into the collective knowledge of the community, we can unlock the full potential of what's available. Whether you're a seasoned gamer or a daily typist, there's always something new to discover in the world of technology.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwelcome to the Apple Insider podcast this is your host St roblas and today rumors are swirling about the 15-in MacBook Air and possibly Return of the 12-in we could see an iPhone Hardware subscription this year Apple may have broken some Dropbox workflows for users and Apple's mixed reality may be coming at WWDC this episode is brought to you by hellofresh and Collide and joining me this week is my friend Wes hilard how's it going Wes okay Stephen if we could just know get this podcast recording that'd be fun but before we recorded West you know Thunderbolt dock issues audio device issues that's that's how you know you're a podcaster you have audio connection issues yeah if you don't spend the first five minutes of the show getting ready for the show then what is this exactly now what what Thunderbolt doc do you use is it the cow digit um I can't remember uh it's underneath a monitor over here right oh and this was actually a Twitter thread because we were all sharing our quote unquote messy desk photos and then you shared a desk but one of the things is you have this like net that came with your desk for cable management so under your desk all the cables just lay nicely in this net and you have an motorized standing desk is that accurate yeah it's it's a desk from uplift that's the name yeah uplift I I figured out my dock it's a star dock Thunderbolt dock they they've been around for 100 years it's just one of those so not startech sorry startech yeah I can't find the logo I dare not touch anything under there just jiggle a wire loose but yeah it's it's startech you're right oh okay yeah I'm familiar with startech yeah good stuff I use a cal digit dock in one of my Mac Studio Thunderball ports for all these like random accessories so you know a lot of good options out there but okay so your uplift desk do you actually lift it up and St to work sometime yeah it's every now and then it's nice cuz I just get up walk around it it's especially handy when I'm like messing with review stuff or taking photos and I'm going back and forth cuz I have my whole office set up this isn't I'll and it's nice to have the desk at standing height when I do that I have a manual standing desk it's the Husky desk from Home Depot and I have like this handle I can crank up but so it's like a w like a like raising and lowering a window in a car from the 1990s yes exactly but my cable management is such that I'm afraid if I lift the desk a bunch of things will disconnect so I've have not tried to lift it any time recently so if uplift wants to send me a desk listen I'll try it I'll make a video of it that's cool yeah it the the net thing is really cool cuz I I don't like that it's kind of a mess cuz literally all I did was just shove everything into that net and it just holds it and that's fine yeah I kind of want to go in there and still wire all the bands up band up all the wires but what's nice is is yeah like it gets rid of all the chaos there's a power strip hooked physically to the back of the desk's frame so like this the the frame of the desk is built to have accessories attached to it if you have a big enough L-shaped desk you can even buy a hammock that you know cuz you can raise the desk up like several feet and then just lay in a hammock under your desk if you want to whoa that's a heavy duty desk to hold a person like in a hand yeah I think it has like a like a 500 lb weight limit or something like that but yeah it's there it's a really heavy duty fancy desk this thing's thick too it's like an inch inch and a half thick of just actual like wood so instead of like compressed board so yeah it's it's really nice but the The netting is cool cuz again like you get all that junk in there you you hook all your stuff up you do some cable routing to get your stuff power on top of your desk and then I've got it set up so the the power cables that run from the desk to the outlets are just two cables coming out of the net I've got them bundled together with like a zipper pouch and they plug into the outlet so that's the only thing going from the desk to the wall and there's plenty of slack so if I hit the you know height adjustment it just lifts up and the net comes with it it's attached to the desk I don't have to worry about anything pinching or getting lost that's pretty sweet I listeners if you have solutions for what I'm about to say please tweet or Mast it on me but the the biggest challenge is I have an APC on the desk because living in Florida you never know if there's going to be a brown out or a blackout with the Mac Studios to justplay a bunch of video equipment in here I didn't want power to be cut off randomly from that stuff so I have an APC I guess the answer is somehow Mount the APC with the desk that would move so this way the only cable that's coming from the desk to the outlet is the APC itself is this APC kind of shaped like a a classic tower computer almost just like a big rectangle with Outlets it is yes that is what it is all right cuz you're going to I'm going to have to send you a photo because the uplift uplift desk comes with a mount for what you would call like a CPU or like a like basically if you have a tower computer if you're a gamer like they still do those or like people have those like Drive things where they have like multiple drives in and Slots this thing holds that I believe it would hold your AP thing again cuz it can hold a lot of weight and I have it mounted there's nothing in it but you know it's just again cuz I reviewed this desk I wanted it to put all the parts together and yeah like this would exactly fit your solution I'll have to send you a photo all right might be getting an uplift desk we will see these things are not inexpensive though listeners let us know if you have an uplift desk uh please tweet at me if it's worth it and you have it with an APC because that's a key part of the setup here all that's desk talk that's how we we open the show this week one festar review want to give a quick shout out kek from the USA says it's the uh favorite podcast he listens to on Friday so K thank you for that festar review and also real quick before we get into some news and rumors there was the big game last week I think contractually you're not supposed to say what the game is actually called or copyright trademark whatever but if you watched the big game did you did you watch it West I watched until after the halftime show and stopped carrying yeah it I mean it was a pretty good game by the end like it came down pretty close you know yeah I heard that it was a close game but it being a Sunday night with a family with kids and stuff like we ate all the all the food we cooked the halftime show was over everyone wanted to go home so we just kind of yeah we just flipped on some Last of Us and watched that instead of the rest of the game is that is that good everyone say it's really good oh that's a perfect show like it's like my favorite video game of the modern Generations like storytelling gameplay wise it's perfect and they've captured it in a way that no one's ever captured a video game before on on film so it's perfect oh my goodness okay I I need to watch it everyone's saying it's amazing but anyway uh the big game happened and I just want to talk about the setup I've been using this set up for a couple different things but we had the inside it it was playing inside on a TV with the Sonos Arc and sub and that sounded great look great but I also like doing the outdoor patio setup so you have like two viewing locations I got this projector from Amazon and this screen projector screen it was like 50 bucks 40 bucks and it came with like metal stands for the screen screen slid around this Frame 100 in so pretty decent size really easy to set up and then the Apple TV I'm telling you Apple TV is a great option you know a lot of times if you're trying to be portable it seemed like the Apple TV not be a great decision but because you don't necessarily need to keep the remote with it you know you can just use the Apple remote on your iPhone you know I just have the Apple TV box with this projector I set it up and because the Apple TV can play to AirPlay speakers multiple even I was able to send audio from that Apple TV to the pair of Sonos 1ls on the patio plus a Sonos Smo that I could put in different locations you know wherever people are sitting and it really works out great and actually helped a friend set that up also and he used his Apple TV to send it to even more Sonos speakers than I have and so Apple TV you know it is a I guess higher end like streaming box compared to fire TVs and all that but man it is a really versatile device and I just really like it I mean it's relatively cheap these days especially if you go for an older generation you can get on sale or use you can buy a used Apple TV and not worry about it being broken I mean someone would have to be using it as a literal hockey puug for it to be broken in some way but yeah so what did you think of the halftime show and like the Apple Presence at the at the game well you're going to have to describe that to me because I actually didn't watch the halftime show like because we had a bunch of people over like we did other things well yeah like we for whatever reason I I mean I had people over too but for whatever reason we all kind of just quietly watched the halftime show and was yeah no apple was very much at the show you could tell from the get-go yeah we had Chris Stapleton singing the national Anthem but the the guy from kot who got the Oscar was signing the national anthem which was you know little little nod from Apple right and then the halftime show as far as halftime shows go you there wasn't like an apple brand they didn't like fly a logo in the background or anything they did the announcers did say the Apple music halftime show about 15 times before and after but like otherwise you wouldn't know who would run it and it it that's fine like it it was high production I will say that the camera like movements and how they filmed it was very beautiful compared to other halftime shows where you kind of just have a static camera kind of trading places around the artist this one seemed more choreographed and the dancers were very much in sync like it was kind of insane how well they they had practiced like that just goes to the dancers and the artist but yeah we we were a little bit concerned about Rihanna standing on a floating platform 100t above the Super Bowl it was it was a great show definitely not on the level like I compared to the weekend I really enjoyed the weekend's Super Bowl show yeah but nothing will ever top Katy Perry riding in on an animatronic cat head with flamethrowers yeah but for those of you like Steph who missed the halftime show you can go to Apple music and watch it in spatial audio if you watch any sporting program especially yes the audio is always mixed terribly but this is actually Apple's recorded mix so it'll sound much better than what you heard so even if you watched it go watch it with spatial audio turned on with some nice headphones and it's it's pretty fun very cool well that's very cool big game Tech right there also I know William is very interested in this but just quick aside Ted lasso season 3 returns March 15th so just about a month away you'll be able to watch Ted lasso again I liked I liked the teaser we know what happens to the Bel sign in season 2 so having that little that little comment go it it's going to be fun it's going to be a good season they're I like that they're wrapping it up it's it's it's hard to say cuz again they don't want to say that it's over but I think the writers and everyone's pretty much acknowledge that this is the last season and if you've been watching shrinking man the guys making Ted lasso are making shrinking and it's it's so good it's a great show it is a it is a great show I'm looking forward to it uh William maybe he'll read the script or something anyway bunch of rumors swirling around wanted to cover that then we'll get into this Dropbox thing and Apple's changed there but some rumors about the 15in MacBook Air possible 12in and maybe we'll see an iMac later this year 15-in MacBook Air rumors we've been hearing for such a long time but now Ross young and Digi times are all getting into it think German's even talked about it we could see as early as an April release for a 15-in MacBook Air we have not ever had a 15-in MacBook Air MacBook Air has almost always been 13 we had a 13 and an 11 in for a while there like back when netbooks were a thing and apple had the 11in MacBook Air I think it would be interesting for a 15-in MacBook Air would think maybe it's just the same M2 Chip they throw in there as in the current MacBook Air I think this is a large Market I think people do like larger screen laptops a lot of people not in the Apple ecosystem buy large screen laptops even if they're not great even if they're slow or whatever people just like those large screens for whatever they do on them spreadsheets but I don't know how likely do you think this is 15-inch MacBook Air even in the next few months it's one of those things where there's smoke there's fire we've been talking about a 15-inch MacBook Air from multiple reliable sources Ming quo Ross young yeah like this has been bounced around delayed and delayed again if only because supply chain issues Apple's really been dealing with a lot of problems in China lately but so that's understandable but yeah I think this is a product that exists it's just Apple's trying to find the right momentously like Digi times they're less reliable they said there was an M3 coming in this thing and it's no it's not like unless it released next spring sure but not not in 2023 not with an M3 so I would say like a spring to Summer release window with an M2 processor fine we do have that one little quip from M quo while back that said that this might not have the air moniker this might be something else so I did want to acknowledge that some people are saying oh 15 in that's not an air anymore but if it has that thinner yeah design and that new design that's not you know as big as a Macbook Pro I still think this could qualify yeah as an air and this this is combined with you know maybe Apple will bring back the 12in MacBook just name everything Macbook so you'll have a 12-in Macbook and a 15in Macbook and then there not be an air or any combination of of those but I I want to say like I think the MacBook Air name is so ingrained in people's mind so iconic now I don't think going forward that we will have a time and I I'm not going to shave my eyebrows if I'm wrong about this but I don't think we will ever have a time where there's just a Mac and MacBook Pro and no MacBook Air I feel like it is so pervasive just in people's mind space like Apple's going to keep that MacBook Air moniker around for a very long time yeah I don't think air is going anywhere that name should definitely stick it's just it's a question of the lineup so there's two names Apple uses on some products that isn't in the MacBook lineup period Ultra and studio and I I wonder cuz Studio we know is I guess technically higher than Pro because like if you look at the only thing with Studio in it it has the M1 ult ra processor so that's the only computer with that processor you also have the studio display and pro display xdr so that that's separate and a little more messy I'm talking more about the max running an operating system but sure sure it's it's interesting to look at the MacBook line and say okay well we have let's see two pro level uh computers way up at the high end we have a Pro laptop that's not really anything that should go away very soon the 13in then we have the air just singular and and then we have the old Air that's still for sale at the bottom so the lineup's a little messy right now but it's understandable but imagine if Apple just suddenly throws in two new computers I can't see it not being called a MacBook Air even at 15 in I think that name is too important but a $9.99 12in MacBook I think that works even if they only sell 12 of them like right that that thing's going to be a powerful little monster it's going to be fun it's going to be interesting if there exists a 15in macb air the question that some people they tweet at me and they ask me like buying decisionwise should they get a refurb M1 Pro 14-in MacBook Pro or should they get an M2 MacBook Air like people are asking that question right now I think that would be even more confusing when there's a 15-in MacBook Air that might be more expensive than a lot of the M1 Pro configurations you'll be able to get both from Apple refurbished and maybe even like third party stores refurbished this this would be kind of a $14.99 computer this would start at around $4.99 the there's two things that could happen either the MacBook Air could move down the current new model with the M2 could move down to $9.99 if Apple finds a way to do it this 12-in MacBook is the wild card here because there is a desktop Mac Mini that you can get for $5.99 and that is the cheapest Mac in existence that you can walk in and get Mac OS like now look at the iPad line there's an iPad Air for $499 right what's stopping them from releasing the 12-in Mac book at some insane price like $6.99 because it's just it's like the display and the chip the pro the M2 processor all that that's in the iPad Air not that much more insane than an iPad Air you know right and I think if the 12-in MacBook does come around I think it'd be an easy win to say M1 chip in the 12-in MacBook you know be cuz before I had a 12-in Macbook for a little while it had the Intel M chip which was terrible but to have that form factor with an M1 chip even though that M like the M1 sounds like kind of old now but it is still an incredible chip I would argue it' get M2 I mean I understand that Apple wants it to probably be cheaper but the M2 is still is a mass production they're they're saving on every chip they make I I would argue that M2 is fine they're not going to come out with a new laptop and say Here's a 2020 chip in it yeah I mean M2 would be amazing and I do think like you were saying it would be great to the place of that M1 13in air that's still in the lineup now that you can buy new like to just slot in a just to slot in a 12-in M2 MacBook and then you have the 13-in MacBook Air and 15-in MacBook Air that seems like a good it'd be highly disruptive Apple's never had anything in the market like it and the last time we had a 12-in Macbook I believe it was something ridiculous like $1.99 like it was it was an expensive laptop because of its form factor Apple argued because they had to manze everything it actually was more expensive to make kind of like the iPad Mini being more expensive than the iPad 10 10.2 10.9 in but I I just looking at that lineup though if we get if we ditch the old MacBook Air and the 13-inch MacBook Pro I that that we go back to that ladder the priz ladder that Apple has of an entry MacBook MacBook 12 in at like $6.99 a MacBook Air 13in right at $9.99 a 15 in at$ 13.99 or 14.99 and then you move up to MacBook Pro which the 14inch starts at what is it $1 199.99 the 14in if you buy it new with the M2 chips it starts at no it starts at $2,000 it's $1 19.99 yeah yeah $ 19999 and then the 16 in is $23.99 I believe so you have that price ladder from $6.99 to $23.99 and across the MacBook product line just like with the Mac product line the desktop I think that makes a lot of sense for apple and I think not a lot of people are really talking about it because they're expecting this 12-in MacBook to I don't know again be somewhere around $1,100 I don't believe that looking at the iPad lineup because again all it is is an iPad brains with a battery and a keyboard and a trackpad so to the question again like you said 15-inch MacBook Air maybe it'll come in at that $14.99 price point I'm looking right now Apple's certified refurbished store you can get a a 14-in M1 Pro MacBook Pro with 16 gigs of unified memory 512 SSD I always try to go to terabyte but on the refurbished store this is $15.39 but that $1,500 price point and I just want to say like because people ask this and so if someone is trying to buy a laptop right now number one if you can wait I would wait till like WWDC time just to make sure any laptops that might be coming out in the spring have come out but some people like need to buy a laptop right now and I totally get it I think the M2 MacBook Air right now if you're go with that screen size is a great option my only caveat like the only question I ask people when they say should I get an air M2 air should I get a 14inch refurb I only ask do you use SD cards all the time because if you use an SD card which probably implies that you do kind of like video work fairly often I say I would get a refurb 14-in MacBook Pro before an air just that little bit of friction of having to use a dongle just for that one use case of an SD card I think makes it worth it to have it built in on the 14-inch M1 Pro and I have the 14in and I love it like and I really don't have much desire to upgrade to the new M2 Pro MacBook Pro like it's probably going to be with me for a while yeah my advice is stop looking at the chipsets Apple silicon is amazing and you're not really getting a lot of gains year-over-year even across generations going from M1 Pro to M2 2 might sound nice because the number increased but you're really not gaining that much that M2 has the media engine that the M1 pro has that's great like that that processor leap is almost insignificant the and and then when you talk about M2 Pro yes you're going to in increase processing power but again are you the type of person that's going to be pegging the M1 Pro in the first place so I would argue just stop looking at the processors unless you know that there is a feature in a higher end M2 chipset that you're not getting on an M1 Pro then sure you you can consider a more expensive newer computer but if you're looking at the used Market in the first place look at the other features available on that computer the 14in MacBook Pro versus a MacBook Air of any size you're going to get promotion mini LED backlighting HDMI SD card I just I love that we are in this place right now where it is hard to choose between so many good things when for so long remember when we just had MacBook Pros with us BC ports like that was all you could get yeah I bought an iPad nothing right exactly you move to an iPad full time like I'm so glad we're out of the Dark Ages of of no ports or no no like useful ports we'll say this episode is brought to you by helloof fresh with hellofresh you get Farm freshed pre-portion ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your 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so I love that option and even if you're not cooking for multiple people you can get the meals that serve two to four people and then save the leftovers for lunch the next day or even dinner the next cook once and you have several days of meals and you know they'll be delicious so go to hellofresh.com appleinsider 65 all one word and use the promo code Apple Insider 65 for 65% off plus free shipping what a deal so go to hellofresh.com appleinsider 65 use the promo code Apple Insider 65 for 65% off plus free shipping that link and the promo code will be in the show notes so you can just click it there promo code Apple Insider 65 for 65% off our thanks to hellofresh America's number one meal kit for sponsoring this episode yeah yeah like mac was so boring and interesting to me I mean it still kind of feels like it's a technology from 1999 or something like this is oh my goodness so many well I mean I can't believe you don't get more hate tweets from comments like that but yeah go ahead oh I don't I don't I don't think people listen to the podcast for me they listen for William but no self-deprecation aside no it's but seriously like I I still feel like the Paradigm of using Mac OS on a laptop just feels so old that that and I know that sounds weird to some people but that's why I used that's why I used iPad in the first place and that's why I'm still hopeful to see iPad grow and apple to push it along because that interface that modularity that's exciting to me versus yeah if it's broke don't fix it is the attitude I get with Mac OS it's just yep it's worked for the last 20 years and it'll continue working for another 20 years this is great it's solid it's not going to fall apart unless Apple does something stupid like Windows well I mean look at Windows just making enemies left and right listen I don't no I know no no no one who well if you use Windows I'm sorry and you listen to the Apple Insider podcast you're you're a true fan if if that's you tweet at me but anyway no no I get it I will I will say number one 30 years ago I was using a no not was it 30 years ago it would have been 25 I was using a compact procario desktop and so I will confidently say that the Macs today do not feel like working with that but I will say no no no not speed wise I'm talking about I'm not talking about how well they ran I remember booting up a let's see I I remember what it was like to open up like a lime wire to download one HD music video like I wanted to watch this Lincoln Park video for their new album and it was 3 minutes long and it took 2 and a half hours to download this oh absolutely like 3 minute yeah like I remember how bad it was back in the day because speed constraints were awful I'm talking about the interface we are still using the same Mouse with the same pointer clicking on the same objects it just feels archaic I I will say somewhat to your point when I sit down at my Mac Studio I am like working yeah and throughout my day I am usually trying to get through the work that I kind of have to do on my Mac namely video editing and Final Cut or doing whatever on the Mac because my goal in a workday is to have the rest of my tasks be done on my iPad Pro with magic keyboard sitting on my patio like I love being able to just work on my iPad outside or like in a place that's not the office because working on the iPad even if I'm doing work tasks feels less worky and I think that feeling is kind of what you're alluding to like the whole desktop window management like sitting down at a computer it does feel not Antiquated but it feels a like a little worky like it feels like this is like old school work whereas when I have my iPad and magic keyboard like I enjoy that experience it's more Whimsical I mean let me let me put it another way like you don't see anyone in the farming industry trying to think hm I wonder if we can do the plow better right like it's worked for hundreds of years it's not it doesn't need to change sure they can motorize it but it's still a plow right I'm just that's that's kind of what I'm equating it to it's a tool that works we built it and it continues to work until some radical Innovation comes along to really change it cuz when you look at iPad OS it's still kind of the same thing it's just how it's executed is different it feels like you're touching the software in a different way versus you're kind of at a distance on Mac OS that's that's what I'm getting at and it does feel like when I upload a podcast episode when I do it on my Mac laptop or desktop and I'm clicking with my mouse it feels just like I'm doing whatever but for some reason like if I'm holding my iPad and I tap with my finger upload audio file it is different like it is literally a different user interaction but it does feel like kind of more fun I don't know how to describe it and so I I do try to move to my iPad for more and more tasks until it gets frustrating then I go back to my Mac because whatever yeah there's a physicality to it I yeah physicality the iPad is new and exciting and again it offers all of these different modular conditions I can't rip the screen off of my laptop and start touching it right right I've seen a lot of discourse and I posted about this like on mced on and stuff I've seen a lot of discourse Lately from people like federo vtii who was the iPad guy right just saying I'm done trying to make iPad into something it's not and I completely understand that sentiment cuz obviously here I am working from a Macbook Pro I get it but I haven't given up hope on a new platform Paradigm and I'm hoping that Apple sees a lot of this negativity and they're going to come out and say okay this is what we can do to fix it and start listening to people's complaints that's where it needs to evolve yeah and I and I think this this this is a I like this topic well we'll have to get back to this listeners if you if you enjoy this whole like what is an iPad what is a Mac for uh yeah tweet at us if you'd like to hear more about this but we we have more news to get to right so we will uh we'll leave this for now we'll table this for now on your uplift desk and we'll come back to it someday do want to mention the iMac is totally Mia there's some rumors that maybe the iMac will be refreshed late this year 2023 maybe it's waiting for the M3 chip which seems man like to skip a whole generation but ALS but also I'm also like what what else can they do to the iMac it's such a thin piece of glass with a small chin and that's the Entire Computer like I'm not sure what we're going to be asking for in a refresh besides just putting a newer chip in there the iMac has run into the iPad problem it is now this thin piece of glass like what do you like what is what does the iPad look like in 2030 right it's it probably looks just like an iPad you can't really modify it anymore without changing what it is yeah well and I think on the iPad with the bezel question because one of the rumors is like the next iPhone is going to have less even less bezels which tiny bezels right now anyway but like on a tablet computer that you have to hold and interact with I feel like there's always going to have to be some amount of bezel even on one side at least maybe to prevent some of that you need to hold it you got to hold you got to hold it but an iMac I guess you could say that the bezels will be even smaller but they're pretty small right now like if you look at a 24-in iMac pretty small bezels I can see the I can see the design changing sure but the form factor is where it's going to be I mean again like it's so thin they can't fit a headphone check in longwise right right just update the processor and throw it out there give us give us a little more oomph that could definitely just be a March press release like I know there's we're not really expecting any more from Apple before WWDC at this point because of the January announcements but again everything's behind this should have been out sooner we it could have been announced alongside the M2 last summer yeah I think I think you're right I think a press release they say M2 iMac maybe a couple new colors call it a day like that could be the whole deal everyone need to stop talking about M3 by the way it's not coming until after the M2 cycle it's not just going to suddenly show up in in may like right we need to at least see the M2 Ultra or whatever they put in the Mac Pro like that has to happen I I mean I would say at the at the earliest we should be talking about M3 period is November of this year that still seems too early yeah it does seem early okay I want to talk about this iPhone Hardware subscription this is Mark German he's talking about all the different Financial features or like like fintech Financial tech services that Apple might be offering in the near future like Apple pay later which still hasn't launched yet dealing with financial backend whatever the apple cart savings account which was announced but also still hasn't launched yet and then two other things that Apple has not announced but German is saying is also likely coming soon Apple pay monthly and the rumored iPhone subscription and one of the thing I thought was interesting the iPhone subscription if you do the iPhone upgrade program right now which is actually what I do you can do the iPhone upgrade program sign up through Apple but it's actually not Apple doing the financial backend if you've ever done that program you find out it's a Citizens one like zero interest loan you're basically doing and the monthly payments you're doing is after 2 years you could actually own your iPhone like you would stop paying payments you don't have to give it back like it's your phone now you keep it and that would be the difference between the iPhone upgrade program which could turn into something like Apple pay monthly installments if Apple you know starts yeah you no longer Own It Apple gives you the new phone every year with a box to send back your old one right that would be the iPhone subscription model basically like you you pay a monthly price infinitely until you decide to stop but there's never a point and then shift to a buy program yeah just just like buying a car right I would I would argue though that this is actually cuz this would be bringing in house because Apple we know that the Apple pay later is going to be through Apple's own funds rather than through a bank and this Subscription Service would likely also be through Apple which brings up some interesting points they could actually bundle this with other things they could do the Apple One bundle with an iPhone right and right and in the future add more Hardware it you want a new Apple TV every year get a new homepod Mini every month yeah sure just just bring it bring the big hom plot on description so I don't cancel it again but yeah and you know as you think about Apple as a company every company has to figure out where there is a saturated market and where is there a place for growth and the financial side of what Apple does again has been outsourced either to Citizens one for the iPhone upgrade program and for the Apple card it's been Goldman Sachs which recently Goldman Sachs said that they've lost like $1.2 billion on the Apple card deal which also begs the question would Apple also lose a bunch of money doing the financial services themselves I'm not sure well the interesting thing around reporting here is is there's new credit cards every day and there's people paying attention on the fintech side of things of how these things roll out and evolve over time it almost never earns money immediately these these kinds of cards are the long-term game they're getting people into their program and they're getting money in their Bank they're increasing interest they're getting late payments from people ultimately the more people have the card the more money they're going to make it's at the beginning especially the first year or two you're not going to see like the kind of growth that like Wall Street expects like this isn't some unicorn that's just going to lay money immediately so I don't I wouldn't look at those numbers and be worried about Apple card going away or something or like Goldman Sachs backing out this is just normal but it was enough to say for Goldman Sachs to say you know what this whole marus thing that we're trying to do and trying to change it back to a Goldman Sachs credit card that's too much liability we're just going to go back to being more of a business first model and that's fine but it does seem to have pushed back against the Apple savings account which was also going to be through Goldman Sachs right my question to you and maybe for our listeners I've done the iPhone upgrade program for years I think at least since the iPhone 7 or 10 somewhere around there and I like it I like because Apple Care Plus is built into the cost I like getting a new iPhone every year Apple's backend through the Apple Store of doing that program every year is pretty seamless I've never missed like a launch day iPhone because the upgrade program was doing weird stuff so I would think I would probably be the candidate for an iPhone subscription model where I just send the iPhone back every year I get a new one and there's never a time where I would own the phone if I you know kept it for two years but also even though I have literally never done this I also kind of like the idea that if I wanted to keep the phone for two years I then could own it and so like my own actions throughout the past five or six years does not like lend itself to for that for me choosing that you know but I still like the idea that I could own it after two years so like which one would you do if these two options were available pay forever keep getting a new phone all the time or pay forever but at least after two years you could choose to own the phone all right well let me bring some life experience and anyone who's over the age of like 25 might know about this so I've both bought brand new cars off of the lot it was the year 2016 I bought a 2016 Honda Civic right you know and I've also went I was in the military and single I had money just just how it goes usually those guys that get those bonuses the first thing they do is go out and buy like the most expensive sports car they can afford thankfully I just got a Honda Cass so and and I I did that and I've also done let's go lease this car and go lease a 2018 CRV or whatever right so from my experience buying is always twice as much twice as expensive as leasing my payments on a brand new vehicle were in the $550 range per month for a like2 $2,000 car right and my payments for leasing a a very similarly priced car were like $220 month payments and I have a and that's because they know they're getting it back and you're liable for damages you're liable for mileage and stuff there's there's rules there and there will probably be rules with the iPhone thing you can't turn in a broken phone that's hanging off by a thread right so so I have a feeling that this is going to work the same way and I am very much here for it I'm going to save money wherever I can and I definitely buy this the new iPhone every year so I will sign up for this because it will undoubtedly be cheaper very likely include some perks like here's just do this upgrade program add $10 to the top and you get the Apple One Premium bundle right like like Apple's going to incentivize this to death and I'm here for it and I know the other side of this conversation because I've been there right I've I've had to get out of serious St before Apple entering the payment markets of loans savings accounts possibly in the future a checking account even just all these little things seems scary because sadly the United States is one of the worst countries in the world for finance and our our country likes I don't know if people overseas are aware of this it is very much built on predat predatory loan practices and getting people into debt forever so that they're they borrow $1,000 and then they're paying $50 a month to keep that $1,000 basically right like that kind of stuff is everywhere and I don't think Apple's going to be that predatory they even have a clause in the testing phase right now of the Apple pay later that delinquent fees and stuff like that will not affect your Apple ID they're not going to just shut off your ability to use the app store if you're late on a loan payment so they could right they're they're perfectly within their right to but again because laws are weird but I I think apple is going to play this safe they want to just like with the Apple card they want to reinvent financing and I have a little bit more trust for them than say something like Bank of America so we'll see how this goes sure sure yeah it's it's going to be interesting to see which of these fintech products that they offer and yeah which one I would choose I don't know honestly I'm going to use all of it I'm I'm absolutely I this I'm in a good financial position where I I don't have I I again I don't think there's any risk here I mean could you imagine Apple like blundering this in a way like just that would be bad yeah and I think you know it's funny the checking account thing like Apple pay cash it can almost act as that you know if you if you did a lot of like payment transfers that way you can use the Apple Cash Card whatever to pay like at a posos if we could direct deposit our right right that be thing no what I think what's awful well because Google if I I I bring this up I don't use the platform but I'm I'm aware of the fact that one of those Google pay systems has a checking thing in it like you can just pay bills with it right it's weird I don't know how it works I think you can just sign into to your existing checking account but that's kind of what I'm looking for with Apple I don't think they're going to open a bank with checking accounts in it but I think you'll be able to sign in to your your thing maybe they'll partner with a digital first client like Chase Bank or something that'll let you have more utility but yeah maybe you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket but I feel safe in the idea of yeah let's just do a the savings account with Apple pay cash let's next time I want to buy like PlayStation VR2 is coming out in a couple weeks maybe I'll use Apple pay later to to pay four payments on that or Apple's VR headset is going to be $3,000 maybe we we need to do four payments on that right oh you know now wow now that you just said that the last rumor I was going to talk about was Mark Gman from Bloomberg also saying that once again mixed reality headset at WWDC that like that's when it's coming like that that almost completes the picture if Apple could put in place some kind of Apple pay later or installment payments and then sells a $2,500 mixed reality headset and they say buy it with your Apple card and then you can pay for it over the next year two years however long you want maybe it's zero interest maybe it's much lower interest than you would get with other credit cards like that does feel equal but I also want to say on the mixed reality headset just moving away from the financial stuff right moving on yeah I I'm kind of tired of the mixed reality rumors I'll be honest like I feel like even German has been saying multiple times over the last year it's coming at WWDC 2022 and then it's coming in the fall of this year and oh no there's a rumor you can go back to I saw someone shared on Twitter you can go back to like 2019 the Apple virtual reality headset possible at 2020 WWDC yeah it's been around for a while because Ming quo started talking about this in like 2016 specifically around Apple glass the what at the time it wasn't called that but we call it that now it's the apple right see-through AR glasses that are going to be able to project things into reality that's where it started and it was like yeah 2019 Apple glass you know alongside the Apple car and the Apple Spaceship but um the then it shifted back they had to walk it back and said you know AR is actually really hard and how are we going to fit all this stuff into a set of glasses Apple's going to do a headset first and that started in around 2019 or so and since we've been talking about headset any day now any day now and I think the reality of it is is if you look if you're on the inside of Apple pun pun intended right oh gosh but if you look at Apple from the inside if you're one of those engineers in there they're like of course it looks like it's coming out any day now we've been ordering hundreds of versions of this headset trying to perfect it and they all are terrible because VR honestly is not a mass Market item it is very non-apple in in its sales pitch it's going to sell okay it's going to be for developers to get ready for the AR revolution in the future but how does Apple release a piece of hardware and not make it about the consumer so they keep having this internal conflict for years now on why should we even do this and I think this is the same story as the foldable handset the phone or the iPad because it was a fad oh it was like it was like 3D televisions all over H making enemies left and right yes oh yes holdable phones are a fad fight me I will say the 3D TV thing I I think that is a good comparison because I remember 3D TV was all did you I bought a 3D TV for $5,000 yes oh my goodness so again so I was in the military I was in the nuclear field they gave me money I was very young and stupid and I was like wow this 55 in Sony 4K 3D TV one of the first on the market I should glasses did you have to were active glasses you turn them on if you use them on a Navy vessel I've talked about this on the podcast before but it's been long enough if you if you use active glasses on a Navy vessel the fluorescent lights are wired out of phase so if you turn them on it turns the room into a disco because all of the lights are blinking out of phase because the frequency of the glasses are different from the frequency of the lights it's hilarious anyway I actually owned a few 3D TVs over time I upgraded to a Samsung one long story short it was expensive and stupid I shouldn't have done it but I enjoyed the 3D movies I still own 3D Blu-rays in a box in my closet that I I'm not going to get rid of cuz they're hilarious anyway just collected a of them but they're useless now I I don't have a 3D TV anymore I sold all of them but like yeah it was a fat it was fun I spent money on it I had money to spend on it they it added something to it a lot of people were like no we're not watching this in 3D so ID end up watching them myself or with like one other person because it was enjoyable but silly 3D gaming on PS3 was a thing for a while like that was cool it was yeah sickening but fun but yeah like it was a fad and it came and went and no one's talking about 3D anymore remember in like 2014 when everyone's like this Android phone has a 3D screen that you don't need glasses for apple is falling behind right I oh I remember I had a friend who had the HTC whatever that had like stereoscopic cameras so you could like take a 3D picture and then see the 3D picture on the phone but you couldn't see it anywhere else like you had to have that exact phone to see it and the Nintendo 3DS with a 3D depth slider like this stuff comes and goes and it was it was of its time people exced about it but technology evolved Beyond it we learned that 3D wasn't it but ldar was and that would be used for augmented reality which is the future right now anyway and that could change and that's how technology evolves but foldables it's not it's not the future foldables are teaching us how to better miniaturize things how to add more moving parts and more technology to a device that is normally stationary and that could evolve into popup camera lenses and things that don't die after 5 months right like these things are evolving in a way that will better future Technologies maybe TVs that can you know fold into the wall or something silly I don't know but like it's just not the future of handsets because the technology by the time it becomes cheap enough to make we will have moved on from it I will say I I was actually at a concert the other night and as the concert was going on people were taking videos of a concert which let's be honest nobody watches after the fact but this person had a foldable phone I don't know which one it was it might but he had it open and it was like Square while it was open so it seemed like one of like the taller ones that open up mm and he was filming with it and at first I was like of all the use cases it is cool because he's still using the good camera of his phone where you know this is the equivalent like when you see people with iPads trying to take video they do it because it's a big viewfinder for what they're recording but the iPad camera is not great modern iPad sure okay whatever anyway he's using his good phone camera he's taking a video and the folded out screen provides a bigger view of what he's capturing and I thought that might be kind of useful but then I also realized it's a square screen and he's recording video so he's not seeing some of the video that's being recorded like it wasn't letter box there wasn't black lines on the top and bottom it was like zoom in if you pinch the zoom out yeah if you pinch the zoom out it would not take up the full screen and the effect would be be lost right so I even that I was like I don't know I don't know and I don't I really don't think people are taking notes on their like handwritten notes in meetings anymore I think people are typing on whatever devices don't get me wrong like it's cool I would love to own one of these if they weren't $2,000 like I would love to play with it they're interesting they're fun but they are not where we're going and if there's any evidence of that look at Samsung's last quarter they had a 6 % drop in I think revenue or profits whichever I know those are significantly different numbers but what they lost a lot of money last quarter and a lot of and they've had to cut back on their foldables division like because they're not selling them they're like as much as they advertise them because let me let me give you a hint the more Samsung advertises something the more desperate they are to sell it right they don't have to advertise the things that are selling well the s23 ultra or whatever like that's going to sell and even even then that's not even their bestselling phone their bestselling phone cost $200 right and it's like the j23 or something and they sell mil internationally internationally yeah you know what I'm talking about but like so I had a point fads so 3D TVs foldable phones virtual reality virtual reality is important right again it's the technology that's leading to Future Technologies but regular people I don't it's just not going to penetrate businesses sure there's like the hollow ones got is gone like Microsoft has been talking about that device for years and it's just gone they're giving up on it because even businesses just couldn't find enough practical uses sometimes just your eyeballs and a sheet of paper is enough and so go walking all this all the way back VR and foldables both inside of Apple being worked on because the technology at the time was exciting and it still is it deserved to be developed but that does not necessarily mean that Apple has to release it even if they spent years and millions of dollars in R&D it may just never a lot today because consumers have moved on and I think VR even with psvr2 coming out like this this month and that being still very much part of the Zeitgeist it's like look at what's happening with Facebook they're changing I I think this may I I haven't been able to verify this but I did see evidence that they're probably going to change their NASDAQ ticker back to Facebook instead of meta like yeah because like Facebook's still focused on the metaverse sure but they they need to go back to where they make actual money which is Facebook and not this madeup metaverse nonsense okay I want to get to the Dropbox and apple API thing but just quickly to wrap up the mixed reality thing I I am less and less convinced every time now I I hear these rumors but what do you think percentage wise that we're going to see this headset launched at WWDC in like three months oh you know I'm actually despite all of what I just said I think it could definitely come out like I'm at like 60% okay because th this this does sound like a thing that needs to exist again they're going to sell 12 of them to developers because it's a stepping stone to what's next it's going to happen but Apple I think is less interested in how much money they're going to make off of it and that's why it's going to come out it's going to cost $3,000 they're probably going to make each one as they're ordered rather than stockpiling it and then they're going to move on from it in two years and I think that's perfectly fine for this product I'm 50/50 I'm going to go a little lower but I you know there's still a chance I mean so many rumors you can't ignore it so I'm going to say 50% chance but we'll see we got a few months away this episode is brought to you by our friends at Collide Collide has some big news okay if you're an OCTA user that's Oka they can get your entire fleet to 100% compliance how do they do it well if a device isn't compliant the user can't log in to your Cloud apps until they fix the problem it's that simple well Collide patch is one of the major holes in zero trust architecture which is device compliance without Collide it struggles to solve basic problems like keeping everyone's OS and browser up to date unsecured devices are logging into your 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lived in your file structure including even putting that folder on external or network attached drives so if you had a bunch of files that you were syncing to your Dropbox maybe it was gigabytes or even terabytes of data it didn't have to live on your internal drive on your Mac it could live on an external or Nas well there's now a change in the Apple API this is effective immediately and Dropbox is going to push update that will not be optional to all Dropbox users but basically changing the location of your Dropbox folder will no longer be supported by macz these next several points are dropbox's explanation of the changes they said due to the change of the Dropbox folder location files that were previously Linked In some thirdparty applications will need to be linked again storing your Dropbox folder on an external drive is no longer supported by Mac OS your Dropbox folder and finder will now be found under locations and no longer under favorites but individual folders from your Dropbox can be moved to the favorites bar like in the finder so basically you won't be able to choose where that Dropbox folder lives on your Mac and that might cause some weirdness with like finder and search now there were a bunch of people that were saying this is going to mess with their workflow I actually had one person reach out to me specifically Steven Bon uh also Steven with a pH so thank you very much but he was basically saying he does a lot of audio work he typically has his Dropbox fold are sinking to an external drive because he works with directors and or clients and there's like hundreds of gigabytes of files that would not fit probably on his internal Mac if he was sying all of it he's got like protool sessions and all that I understand I guess this is probably a security measure for Apple like basically forcing cloud services Apple seems to be telling cuz I haven't found documentation on this but Apple seems to be directly telling people affected by this that this is a privacy I get it I mean I'll be honest I still use dropbox personally I don't have it installed on my Mac like I don't autosync the folder anymore I literally go to dropbox.com and upload or download folders if I need to I've been using iCloud drive more often for a lot of my personal files and stuff and and it's been working pretty well for that but I also understand iCloud Drive is still not as robust for some of these like commercial or client work stuff and sharing folders what what's happening here this this affects the file provider API and I don't know enough about this I'm not a developer to really dig in but I will say this seems to affect a very specific group of apps so someone on the Dropbox forums mentioned like we're going to have to move to a different service well I think this is what's interesting here is this is going to affect anything using this API the file provider API and I personally don't know how if I I'm assuming developers can make apps and systems for Mac OS without using the file provider API they might not be able to use the Mac App Store but you could still get them so there will still be Services out there that allow you to do Mass cloud storage local storage with an external drive it just has to go through a completely different system so it's going to be a more Niche use case it's probably going to be more expensive and you're you're going to have to pay them directly and not through apple and on top of that I believe why Dropbox is sticking with this API rather than moving to something else so they don't have this catastrophe happen is because it's a more consumer focused business and they want the ease of use of the file provider API more people are going to use it for you know the silly stuff like syncing photos or small document files not managing an entire video producer Network right well and I'm curious if there's listeners out there obviously Steven Bon is going to be affected if this is something that you do or would be affected by let me know I also know that there's like also third-party like Dropbox clients you can use that basically do the same thing they sync your Dropbox content to your Mac but you don't have to use dropboxes first part party application he uses like some other weird thing I don't know if that is also going to be broken I've heard Marco Armen talk about it yeah let us know if this affects you specifically I'd be curious like what actually happens supposedly this update is going to be coming out like in the next couple days and like you won't it'll be forced like it's not even something that you're going to be able to take action on yeah if you restart your computer the update's installed it's over yeah I have to we'll have to look more into it see if there's any documentation in the next few days and we'll do a followup maybe on the next episode but yeah interesting change well real quick here at the end do want to say we're not going to talk a ton about Mastadon and Twitter I had a couple people on Twitter basically saying they're tired of hearing about Mastadon I don't know but I do want to say just personally I talked about the last on the last episode that I set up this like if action to Auto post to Mastadon whenever I tweeted it was still working after the API changes that Twitter made so like if you wanted to use that system like go for it but what I did find like if I actually want to provide good content to those following me on Mastadon that kind of Auto posting from Twitter was not that kind of Auto posting from Twitter was not a great experience because sorry because if you would do like multiple photos like if I posted like three photos in a tweet it would basically just show up as like a Twitter link to Mastadon or if there was like a link to the Apple Insider podcast and a photo basically the Mastadon post was like several t.co links and you couldn't see anything there was no preview like it was a bad experience experience so I turned it off I think come like event time like the next time there's an Apple event and I'm going to be like live posting updates I might turn it back on then just because time is usually of the essence and it's going to be pretty difficult to manage posting to those two platforms manually and typically in those situations like I'm just posting like regular text and hashtags yeah but if it's just text and hashtags this this works but as soon as you move beyond that if if you tag a person or add any data anything yeah it ruins it the tagging thing is weird also I I said I was going to talk about Maston but related I figured I how to like run your own Mastadon server which I thought was pretty cool there's like hosting providers where you could pay $6 a month and do it I'm thinking about it I'm thinking about it too like it's literally all set up like I could press a button and be on my own server but as some people on Mastadon pointed out when you go to discover or go to the local timeline in Mastadon it only shows people from that server and so I would not appear for people that are on like the Mastadon social server and like discoverability might take a hit like for people finding me a little bit you'd have to just again hashtags are everything on midon and you can use apps like Mona to follow other servers locals so you could actually make your own server then add Macedon doso and stuff like that to your account and then go post from there it's interesting I there's workarounds people are trying to figure this out but all you really need is people from other servers to boost your post and you're still getting discovered you'll still I did want to mention the reason why your Twitter thing might have still been working is because they actually haven't shifted over the API They delayed it again so that's right that's right that will eventually break I'm sorry there's no read permission going to happen in this new API World regardless of what they do they are trying to offer a free read API for like what like 1,500 tweets but yeah we're getting there all right all right and last thing I had this on the list to talk to you specifically about and it's mechanical keyboards because I had have several mechanical keyboards I have the keyron K2 and the K3 I got them several years ago every once in a while I'll pull them out excited to loudly type and clickity Clack and have my kids go what's that like they every time I type on the keyron K2 it's like the entire house wonders what's happening I always want to try and use it I kind of like typing on it I always go back to the magic keyboard for a couple reasons and after I tell you my reasons maybe you can convince me to use a mechanical keyboard after that number one is Touch ID Touch ID is just so good on the Mac now it's built into the magic keyboard using a mechanical keyboard I literally have to keep my magic keyboard somewhere accessible for that touch ID thing and that feels like double work and so Touch ID always has me come back the key layout a lot of mechanical keyboards they'll put the command key where it belongs but not the option key on the right side like if you look at Apple's magic keyboard command and option are both on the right and left of the space bar and I have so many shortcuts and hotkeys that I do where I will use the option and command on the right side and my keyron K2 and K3 both lack that button now I know I could remap buttons or whatever but I don't want to get into that also paste and match style is something I do all the time if you don't know about the keyboard shortcut you should do it and that's shift option command V and so like that alone I do multiple times a day and I can't do it on the mechanical keyboard easily there's that and then finally wrist angle and maybe you've figured this out but whenever I TI with the mechanical keyboard and I like the K2 more because it's louder and it feels more substantial but I use a wrist rest on the K2 because otherwise it's uncomfortable but I I can never get it ideal and if I don't use a wrist rest and try to just like hover my hands over the keyboard like that feels weird and I tried for a day I try to get used to it for maybe a day or two but I just always go back to the magic keyboard and so is there any secret to transitioning to a magic keyboard there's one guy on on Mastadon Brad thornborough he said that he tried the K1 and K3 and those didn't work for him but for some reason the K8 really worked and it it just clicked pun intended uh so I don't know how how do you get used to a mechanical keyboard Wes well you just get good that's my only advice well all right that wraps it wraps it up I mean I've been using mechanical keyboards for a while I don't really use Apple's magic keyboard anymore unless it's like on an iPad keyboard or or the actual ual MacBook keys I use the q1 pro keyron right now it's the you can it's yeah it it weighs like a lot it's stainless steel you could probably use it as a home defense weapon but it's really it's really nice I like it has a volume knob your issue with the keys it's cuz you're just you're doing mechanical keyboards wrong just change the key caps and reprogram the keys do it one time I'm holding it wrong change the key caps reprogram the keys to be what you want it to be I'm holding it wrong what is that thing called it's it's a it's a key yeah but forget all that nonsense you can program the actual keyboard system settings using via software some key crons don't do this but most of the new ones do they're programmable key set so the actual each like key can be programmed this isn't a Mac OS fix this is you're programming the keyboard so if you plug it into an iPad or any other Mac in your house it will still be programmed to use those keys that way and yeah you can program macros you can change the volume knob to be a slider in Photoshop if you want to like like you can really go and so you do it one time you change the key caps to say the right option command or whatever and you're done don't do it in Mac OS do it via the keyboard software but yeah outside of that actually learning to type on it it's it's just a learning curve you'll have to get used to it you have to find what's comfortable I use a wrist rest the q1 pro is a really high up mechanical keyboard the wrist rest I have is made by Kyron it rests right against it it keeps my hands at a reasonable height I sometimes I hover sometimes I actually rest it down it just really depends on how I feel and yeah you just kind of just got to do it just get used to it I guess it's different you're it's like holding a different controller it's like using an Xbox controller and then using a PlayStation controller and like being like why are all the buttons in the wrong place well 10 minutes 10 minutes into the video game you're going to forget those buttons are in the wrong place and I think think it works the same way for keyboards do you have the red brown or banana switches I don't know what banana is but I usually get the red switches yeah red is a nice clickey clack not too loud but it still makes a clacking but you get pretty good from it too like the keys pop back into place quickly they're they're I've used brown switches too but those tend to be louder I think I'm might try you can't order it right now it's just on Kickstarter you have to pre-order it soon oh yeah I review units are weird I never know what out or not anymore we we reviewed this on Apple Insider I think Tyler Hayes actually did the final review and you can see that live on our website so gotcha okay I'll put a link to that I will maybe I'll reach out to them maybe I can get an early thing or whatever I'll try it I I'll I'll try once again but I'll try the q1 pro listeners if you have mechanical keyboard that you love let me know and to the like button getting used to thing I just want to say I did finally play golden eye on the Xbox One S The Nostalgia level was incredible I mean I was just reliving my adolescence it was amazing I played golden eye last week on my Nintendo 64 downstairs oh I still got it for my Nintendo 64 too I still got it for that but I wanted to try the the remastered 4K quote unquote if I'm going to play it on the Nintendo switch I'm going to go buy the Bluetooth Nintendo 64 controller and play it with that at that I did on the Xbox I don't know why I do I would want to get the N64 controller because the Xbox the controls were so weird I went through like it's so weird yeah the C mapping the C buttons to the second analog stick does not work the C buttons the C buttons is what messed me up and I tried several different like controller configurations I finally got used to I think it was the Domino controller configuration I finally did that but anyway I just want to say that the facility level for Golden Eye where if you finish it under 2 minutes and 5 Seconds you get the invincibility cheat I still got it I still did it still did it uh it took me like I don't know probably two hours it took me a couple hours but I did it it's so funny because we're not we're we've talked about our age before we're not that far but gener but generationally though we're in that weird hump where golden eye for you was like you were like a teenager or something right like and and it was like this video game is built for me it's made for me I can play it I understand what's happening I was like seven and I was able to jump in and play it I had a I have a Nostalgia for it too cuz we me and my friends would get together the four player the split screen and stuff but I had no idea what that game was about I didn't know what double like we watched the movies growing up but it was just it just was a different element in my head so you talking about like yeah I did all these special things like man you handed me a controller I had a gun and I was shooting people and that's what I that's the difference in in like in in immersiveness of this game from back then I just had to laugh at that yeah yeah that's fun all right well very cool well listeners again let us know what mechanical keyboards do you absolutely love so maybe I can try them also you can tweet or Mastadon West and myself we're both very active on both platforms those links are in the show notes you can of course support the show directly in apple podcast and you get an adree version of the show plus Early Access thank you to all of those who support the show and just thank you for everyone for listening we'll talk to you next timewelcome to the Apple Insider podcast this is your host St roblas and today rumors are swirling about the 15-in MacBook Air and possibly Return of the 12-in we could see an iPhone Hardware subscription this year Apple may have broken some Dropbox workflows for users and Apple's mixed reality may be coming at WWDC this episode is brought to you by hellofresh and Collide and joining me this week is my friend Wes hilard how's it going Wes okay Stephen if we could just know get this podcast recording that'd be fun but before we recorded West you know Thunderbolt dock issues audio device issues that's that's how you know you're a podcaster you have audio connection issues yeah if you don't spend the first five minutes of the show getting ready for the show then what is this exactly now what what Thunderbolt doc do you use is it the cow digit um I can't remember uh it's underneath a monitor over here right oh and this was actually a Twitter thread because we were all sharing our quote unquote messy desk photos and then you shared a desk but one of the things is you have this like net that came with your desk for cable management so under your desk all the cables just lay nicely in this net and you have an motorized standing desk is that accurate yeah it's it's a desk from uplift that's the name yeah uplift I I figured out my dock it's a star dock Thunderbolt dock they they've been around for 100 years it's just one of those so not startech sorry startech yeah I can't find the logo I dare not touch anything under there just jiggle a wire loose but yeah it's it's startech you're right oh okay yeah I'm familiar with startech yeah good stuff I use a cal digit dock in one of my Mac Studio Thunderball ports for all these like random accessories so you know a lot of good options out there but okay so your uplift desk do you actually lift it up and St to work sometime yeah it's every now and then it's nice cuz I just get up walk around it it's especially handy when I'm like messing with review stuff or taking photos and I'm going back and forth cuz I have my whole office set up this isn't I'll and it's nice to have the desk at standing height when I do that I have a manual standing desk it's the Husky desk from Home Depot and I have like this handle I can crank up but so it's like a w like a like raising and lowering a window in a car from the 1990s yes exactly but my cable management is such that I'm afraid if I lift the desk a bunch of things will disconnect so I've have not tried to lift it any time recently so if uplift wants to send me a desk listen I'll try it I'll make a video of it that's cool yeah it the the net thing is really cool cuz I I don't like that it's kind of a mess cuz literally all I did was just shove everything into that net and it just holds it and that's fine yeah I kind of want to go in there and still wire all the bands up band up all the wires but what's nice is is yeah like it gets rid of all the chaos there's a power strip hooked physically to the back of the desk's frame so like this the the frame of the desk is built to have accessories attached to it if you have a big enough L-shaped desk you can even buy a hammock that you know cuz you can raise the desk up like several feet and then just lay in a hammock under your desk if you want to whoa that's a heavy duty desk to hold a person like in a hand yeah I think it has like a like a 500 lb weight limit or something like that but yeah it's there it's a really heavy duty fancy desk this thing's thick too it's like an inch inch and a half thick of just actual like wood so instead of like compressed board so yeah it's it's really nice but the The netting is cool cuz again like you get all that junk in there you you hook all your stuff up you do some cable routing to get your stuff power on top of your desk and then I've got it set up so the the power cables that run from the desk to the outlets are just two cables coming out of the net I've got them bundled together with like a zipper pouch and they plug into the outlet so that's the only thing going from the desk to the wall and there's plenty of slack so if I hit the you know height adjustment it just lifts up and the net comes with it it's attached to the desk I don't have to worry about anything pinching or getting lost that's pretty sweet I listeners if you have solutions for what I'm about to say please tweet or Mast it on me but the the biggest challenge is I have an APC on the desk because living in Florida you never know if there's going to be a brown out or a blackout with the Mac Studios to justplay a bunch of video equipment in here I didn't want power to be cut off randomly from that stuff so I have an APC I guess the answer is somehow Mount the APC with the desk that would move so this way the only cable that's coming from the desk to the outlet is the APC itself is this APC kind of shaped like a a classic tower computer almost just like a big rectangle with Outlets it is yes that is what it is all right cuz you're going to I'm going to have to send you a photo because the uplift uplift desk comes with a mount for what you would call like a CPU or like a like basically if you have a tower computer if you're a gamer like they still do those or like people have those like Drive things where they have like multiple drives in and Slots this thing holds that I believe it would hold your AP thing again cuz it can hold a lot of weight and I have it mounted there's nothing in it but you know it's just again cuz I reviewed this desk I wanted it to put all the parts together and yeah like this would exactly fit your solution I'll have to send you a photo all right might be getting an uplift desk we will see these things are not inexpensive though listeners let us know if you have an uplift desk uh please tweet at me if it's worth it and you have it with an APC because that's a key part of the setup here all that's desk talk that's how we we open the show this week one festar review want to give a quick shout out kek from the USA says it's the uh favorite podcast he listens to on Friday so K thank you for that festar review and also real quick before we get into some news and rumors there was the big game last week I think contractually you're not supposed to say what the game is actually called or copyright trademark whatever but if you watched the big game did you did you watch it West I watched until after the halftime show and stopped carrying yeah it I mean it was a pretty good game by the end like it came down pretty close you know yeah I heard that it was a close game but it being a Sunday night with a family with kids and stuff like we ate all the all the food we cooked the halftime show was over everyone wanted to go home so we just kind of yeah we just flipped on some Last of Us and watched that instead of the rest of the game is that is that good everyone say it's really good oh that's a perfect show like it's like my favorite video game of the modern Generations like storytelling gameplay wise it's perfect and they've captured it in a way that no one's ever captured a video game before on on film so it's perfect oh my goodness okay I I need to watch it everyone's saying it's amazing but anyway uh the big game happened and I just want to talk about the setup I've been using this set up for a couple different things but we had the inside it it was playing inside on a TV with the Sonos Arc and sub and that sounded great look great but I also like doing the outdoor patio setup so you have like two viewing locations I got this projector from Amazon and this screen projector screen it was like 50 bucks 40 bucks and it came with like metal stands for the screen screen slid around this Frame 100 in so pretty decent size really easy to set up and then the Apple TV I'm telling you Apple TV is a great option you know a lot of times if you're trying to be portable it seemed like the Apple TV not be a great decision but because you don't necessarily need to keep the remote with it you know you can just use the Apple remote on your iPhone you know I just have the Apple TV box with this projector I set it up and because the Apple TV can play to AirPlay speakers multiple even I was able to send audio from that Apple TV to the pair of Sonos 1ls on the patio plus a Sonos Smo that I could put in different locations you know wherever people are sitting and it really works out great and actually helped a friend set that up also and he used his Apple TV to send it to even more Sonos speakers than I have and so Apple TV you know it is a I guess higher end like streaming box compared to fire TVs and all that but man it is a really versatile device and I just really like it I mean it's relatively cheap these days especially if you go for an older generation you can get on sale or use you can buy a used Apple TV and not worry about it being broken I mean someone would have to be using it as a literal hockey puug for it to be broken in some way but yeah so what did you think of the halftime show and like the Apple Presence at the at the game well you're going to have to describe that to me because I actually didn't watch the halftime show like because we had a bunch of people over like we did other things well yeah like we for whatever reason I I mean I had people over too but for whatever reason we all kind of just quietly watched the halftime show and was yeah no apple was very much at the show you could tell from the get-go yeah we had Chris Stapleton singing the national Anthem but the the guy from kot who got the Oscar was signing the national anthem which was you know little little nod from Apple right and then the halftime show as far as halftime shows go you there wasn't like an apple brand they didn't like fly a logo in the background or anything they did the announcers did say the Apple music halftime show about 15 times before and after but like otherwise you wouldn't know who would run it and it it that's fine like it it was high production I will say that the camera like movements and how they filmed it was very beautiful compared to other halftime shows where you kind of just have a static camera kind of trading places around the artist this one seemed more choreographed and the dancers were very much in sync like it was kind of insane how well they they had practiced like that just goes to the dancers and the artist but yeah we we were a little bit concerned about Rihanna standing on a floating platform 100t above the Super Bowl it was it was a great show definitely not on the level like I compared to the weekend I really enjoyed the weekend's Super Bowl show yeah but nothing will ever top Katy Perry riding in on an animatronic cat head with flamethrowers yeah but for those of you like Steph who missed the halftime show you can go to Apple music and watch it in spatial audio if you watch any sporting program especially yes the audio is always mixed terribly but this is actually Apple's recorded mix so it'll sound much better than what you heard so even if you watched it go watch it with spatial audio turned on with some nice headphones and it's it's pretty fun very cool well that's very cool big game Tech right there also I know William is very interested in this but just quick aside Ted lasso season 3 returns March 15th so just about a month away you'll be able to watch Ted lasso again I liked I liked the teaser we know what happens to the Bel sign in season 2 so having that little that little comment go it it's going to be fun it's going to be a good season they're I like that they're wrapping it up it's it's it's hard to say cuz again they don't want to say that it's over but I think the writers and everyone's pretty much acknowledge that this is the last season and if you've been watching shrinking man the guys making Ted lasso are making shrinking and it's it's so good it's a great show it is a it is a great show I'm looking forward to it uh William maybe he'll read the script or something anyway bunch of rumors swirling around wanted to cover that then we'll get into this Dropbox thing and Apple's changed there but some rumors about the 15in MacBook Air possible 12in and maybe we'll see an iMac later this year 15-in MacBook Air rumors we've been hearing for such a long time but now Ross young and Digi times are all getting into it think German's even talked about it we could see as early as an April release for a 15-in MacBook Air we have not ever had a 15-in MacBook Air MacBook Air has almost always been 13 we had a 13 and an 11 in for a while there like back when netbooks were a thing and apple had the 11in MacBook Air I think it would be interesting for a 15-in MacBook Air would think maybe it's just the same M2 Chip they throw in there as in the current MacBook Air I think this is a large Market I think people do like larger screen laptops a lot of people not in the Apple ecosystem buy large screen laptops even if they're not great even if they're slow or whatever people just like those large screens for whatever they do on them spreadsheets but I don't know how likely do you think this is 15-inch MacBook Air even in the next few months it's one of those things where there's smoke there's fire we've been talking about a 15-inch MacBook Air from multiple reliable sources Ming quo Ross young yeah like this has been bounced around delayed and delayed again if only because supply chain issues Apple's really been dealing with a lot of problems in China lately but so that's understandable but yeah I think this is a product that exists it's just Apple's trying to find the right momentously like Digi times they're less reliable they said there was an M3 coming in this thing and it's no it's not like unless it released next spring sure but not not in 2023 not with an M3 so I would say like a spring to Summer release window with an M2 processor fine we do have that one little quip from M quo while back that said that this might not have the air moniker this might be something else so I did want to acknowledge that some people are saying oh 15 in that's not an air anymore but if it has that thinner yeah design and that new design that's not you know as big as a Macbook Pro I still think this could qualify yeah as an air and this this is combined with you know maybe Apple will bring back the 12in MacBook just name everything Macbook so you'll have a 12-in Macbook and a 15in Macbook and then there not be an air or any combination of of those but I I want to say like I think the MacBook Air name is so ingrained in people's mind so iconic now I don't think going forward that we will have a time and I I'm not going to shave my eyebrows if I'm wrong about this but I don't think we will ever have a time where there's just a Mac and MacBook Pro and no MacBook Air I feel like it is so pervasive just in people's mind space like Apple's going to keep that MacBook Air moniker around for a very long time yeah I don't think air is going anywhere that name should definitely stick it's just it's a question of the lineup so there's two names Apple uses on some products that isn't in the MacBook lineup period Ultra and studio and I I wonder cuz Studio we know is I guess technically higher than Pro because like if you look at the only thing with Studio in it it has the M1 ult ra processor so that's the only computer with that processor you also have the studio display and pro display xdr so that that's separate and a little more messy I'm talking more about the max running an operating system but sure sure it's it's interesting to look at the MacBook line and say okay well we have let's see two pro level uh computers way up at the high end we have a Pro laptop that's not really anything that should go away very soon the 13in then we have the air just singular and and then we have the old Air that's still for sale at the bottom so the lineup's a little messy right now but it's understandable but imagine if Apple just suddenly throws in two new computers I can't see it not being called a MacBook Air even at 15 in I think that name is too important but a $9.99 12in MacBook I think that works even if they only sell 12 of them like right that that thing's going to be a powerful little monster it's going to be fun it's going to be interesting if there exists a 15in macb air the question that some people they tweet at me and they ask me like buying decisionwise should they get a refurb M1 Pro 14-in MacBook Pro or should they get an M2 MacBook Air like people are asking that question right now I think that would be even more confusing when there's a 15-in MacBook Air that might be more expensive than a lot of the M1 Pro configurations you'll be able to get both from Apple refurbished and maybe even like third party stores refurbished this this would be kind of a $14.99 computer this would start at around $4.99 the there's two things that could happen either the MacBook Air could move down the current new model with the M2 could move down to $9.99 if Apple finds a way to do it this 12-in MacBook is the wild card here because there is a desktop Mac Mini that you can get for $5.99 and that is the cheapest Mac in existence that you can walk in and get Mac OS like now look at the iPad line there's an iPad Air for $499 right what's stopping them from releasing the 12-in Mac book at some insane price like $6.99 because it's just it's like the display and the chip the pro the M2 processor all that that's in the iPad Air not that much more insane than an iPad Air you know right and I think if the 12-in MacBook does come around I think it'd be an easy win to say M1 chip in the 12-in MacBook you know be cuz before I had a 12-in Macbook for a little while it had the Intel M chip which was terrible but to have that form factor with an M1 chip even though that M like the M1 sounds like kind of old now but it is still an incredible chip I would argue it' get M2 I mean I understand that Apple wants it to probably be cheaper but the M2 is still is a mass production they're they're saving on every chip they make I I would argue that M2 is fine they're not going to come out with a new laptop and say Here's a 2020 chip in it yeah I mean M2 would be amazing and I do think like you were saying it would be great to the place of that M1 13in air that's still in the lineup now that you can buy new like to just slot in a just to slot in a 12-in M2 MacBook and then you have the 13-in MacBook Air and 15-in MacBook Air that seems like a good it'd be highly disruptive Apple's never had anything in the market like it and the last time we had a 12-in Macbook I believe it was something ridiculous like $1.99 like it was it was an expensive laptop because of its form factor Apple argued because they had to manze everything it actually was more expensive to make kind of like the iPad Mini being more expensive than the iPad 10 10.2 10.9 in but I I just looking at that lineup though if we get if we ditch the old MacBook Air and the 13-inch MacBook Pro I that that we go back to that ladder the priz ladder that Apple has of an entry MacBook MacBook 12 in at like $6.99 a MacBook Air 13in right at $9.99 a 15 in at$ 13.99 or 14.99 and then you move up to MacBook Pro which the 14inch starts at what is it $1 199.99 the 14in if you buy it new with the M2 chips it starts at no it starts at $2,000 it's $1 19.99 yeah yeah $ 19999 and then the 16 in is $23.99 I believe so you have that price ladder from $6.99 to $23.99 and across the MacBook product line just like with the Mac product line the desktop I think that makes a lot of sense for apple and I think not a lot of people are really talking about it because they're expecting this 12-in MacBook to I don't know again be somewhere around $1,100 I don't believe that looking at the iPad lineup because again all it is is an iPad brains with a battery and a keyboard and a trackpad so to the question again like you said 15-inch MacBook Air maybe it'll come in at that $14.99 price point I'm looking right now Apple's certified refurbished store you can get a a 14-in M1 Pro MacBook Pro with 16 gigs of unified memory 512 SSD I always try to go to terabyte but on the refurbished store this is $15.39 but that $1,500 price point and I just want to say like because people ask this and so if someone is trying to buy a laptop right now number one if you can wait I would wait till like WWDC time just to make sure any laptops that might be coming out in the spring have come out but some people like need to buy a laptop right now and I totally get it I think the M2 MacBook Air right now if you're go with that screen size is a great option my only caveat like the only question I ask people when they say should I get an air M2 air should I get a 14inch refurb I only ask do you use SD cards all the time because if you use an SD card which probably implies that you do kind of like video work fairly often I say I would get a refurb 14-in MacBook Pro before an air just that little bit of friction of having to use a dongle just for that one use case of an SD card I think makes it worth it to have it built in on the 14-inch M1 Pro and I have the 14in and I love it like and I really don't have much desire to upgrade to the new M2 Pro MacBook Pro like it's probably going to be with me for a while yeah my advice is stop looking at the chipsets Apple silicon is amazing and you're not really getting a lot of gains year-over-year even across generations going from M1 Pro to M2 2 might sound nice because the number increased but you're really not gaining that much that M2 has the media engine that the M1 pro has that's great like that that processor leap is almost insignificant the and and then when you talk about M2 Pro yes you're going to in increase processing power but again are you the type of person that's going to be pegging the M1 Pro in the first place so I would argue just stop looking at the processors unless you know that there is a feature in a higher end M2 chipset that you're not getting on an M1 Pro then sure you you can consider a more expensive newer computer but if you're looking at the used Market in the first place look at the other features available on that computer the 14in MacBook Pro versus a MacBook Air of any size you're going to get promotion mini LED backlighting HDMI SD card 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promo code Apple Insider 65 for 65% off plus free shipping that link and the promo code will be in the show notes so you can just click it there promo code Apple Insider 65 for 65% off our thanks to hellofresh America's number one meal kit for sponsoring this episode yeah yeah like mac was so boring and interesting to me I mean it still kind of feels like it's a technology from 1999 or something like this is oh my goodness so many well I mean I can't believe you don't get more hate tweets from comments like that but yeah go ahead oh I don't I don't I don't think people listen to the podcast for me they listen for William but no self-deprecation aside no it's but seriously like I I still feel like the Paradigm of using Mac OS on a laptop just feels so old that that and I know that sounds weird to some people but that's why I used that's why I used iPad in the first place and that's why I'm still hopeful to see iPad grow and apple to push it along because that interface that modularity that's exciting to me versus yeah if it's broke don't fix it is the attitude I get with Mac OS it's just yep it's worked for the last 20 years and it'll continue working for another 20 years this is great it's solid it's not going to fall apart unless Apple does something stupid like Windows well I mean look at Windows just making enemies left and right listen I don't no I know no no no one who well if you use Windows I'm sorry and you listen to the Apple Insider podcast you're you're a true fan if if that's you tweet at me but anyway no no I get it I will I will say number one 30 years ago I was using a no not was it 30 years ago it would have been 25 I was using a compact procario desktop and so I will confidently say that the Macs today do not feel like working with that but I will say no no no not speed wise I'm talking about I'm not talking about how well they ran I remember booting up a let's see I I remember what it was like to open up like a lime wire to download one HD music video like I wanted to watch this Lincoln Park video for their new album and it was 3 minutes long and it took 2 and a half hours to download this oh absolutely like 3 minute yeah like I remember how bad it was back in the day because speed constraints were awful I'm talking about the interface we are still using the same Mouse with the same pointer clicking on the same objects it just feels archaic I I will say somewhat to your point when I sit down at my Mac Studio I am like working yeah and throughout my day I am usually trying to get through the work that I kind of have to do on my Mac namely video editing and Final Cut or doing whatever on the Mac because my goal in a workday is to have the rest of my tasks be done on my iPad Pro with magic keyboard sitting on my patio like I love being able to just work on my iPad outside or like in a place that's not the office because working on the iPad even if I'm doing work tasks feels less worky and I think that feeling is kind of what you're alluding to like the whole desktop window management like sitting down at a computer it does feel not Antiquated but it feels a like a little worky like it feels like this is like old school work whereas when I have my iPad and magic keyboard like I enjoy that experience it's more Whimsical I mean let me let me put it another way like you don't see anyone in the farming industry trying to think hm I wonder if we can do the plow better right like it's worked for hundreds of years it's not it doesn't need to change sure they can motorize it but it's still a plow right I'm just that's that's kind of what I'm equating it to it's a tool that works we built it and it continues to work until some radical Innovation comes along to really change it cuz when you look at iPad OS it's still kind of the same thing it's just how it's executed is different it feels like you're touching the software in a different way versus you're kind of at a distance on Mac OS that's that's what I'm getting at and it does feel like when I upload a podcast episode when I do it on my Mac laptop or desktop and I'm clicking with my mouse it feels just like I'm doing whatever but for some reason like if I'm holding my iPad and I tap with my finger upload audio file it is different like it is literally a different user interaction but it does feel like kind of more fun I don't know how to describe it and so I I do try to move to my iPad for more and more tasks until it gets frustrating then I go back to my Mac because whatever yeah there's a physicality to it I yeah physicality the iPad is new and exciting and again it offers all of these different modular conditions I can't rip the screen off of my laptop and start touching it right right I've seen a lot of discourse and I posted about this like on mced on and stuff I've seen a lot of discourse Lately from people like federo vtii who was the iPad guy right just saying I'm done trying to make iPad into something it's not and I completely understand that sentiment cuz obviously here I am working from a Macbook Pro I get it but I haven't given up hope on a new platform Paradigm and I'm hoping that Apple sees a lot of this negativity and they're going to come out and say okay this is what we can do to fix it and start listening to people's complaints that's where it needs to evolve yeah and I and I think this this this is a I like this topic well we'll have to get back to this listeners if you if you enjoy this whole like what is an iPad what is a Mac for uh yeah tweet at us if you'd like to hear more about this but we we have more news to get to right so we will uh we'll leave this for now we'll table this for now on your uplift desk and we'll come back to it someday do want to mention the iMac is totally Mia there's some rumors that maybe the iMac will be refreshed late this year 2023 maybe it's waiting for the M3 chip which seems man like to skip a whole generation but ALS but also I'm also like what what else can they do to the iMac it's such a thin piece of glass with a small chin and that's the Entire Computer like I'm not sure what we're going to be asking for in a refresh besides just putting a newer chip in there the iMac has run into the iPad problem it is now this thin piece of glass like what do you like what is what does the iPad look like in 2030 right it's it probably looks just like an iPad you can't really modify it anymore without changing what it is yeah well and I think on the iPad with the bezel question because one of the rumors is like the next iPhone is going to have less even less bezels which tiny bezels right now anyway but like on a tablet computer that you have to hold and interact with I feel like there's always going to have to be some amount of bezel even on one side at least maybe to prevent some of that you need to hold it you got to hold you got to hold it but an iMac I guess you could say that the bezels will be even smaller but they're pretty small right now like if you look at a 24-in iMac pretty small bezels I can see the I can see the design changing sure but the form factor is where it's going to be I mean again like it's so thin they can't fit a headphone check in longwise right right just update the processor and throw it out there give us give us a little more oomph that could definitely just be a March press release like I know there's we're not really expecting any more from Apple before WWDC at this point because of the January announcements but again everything's behind this should have been out sooner we it could have been announced alongside the M2 last summer yeah I think I think you're right I think a press release they say M2 iMac maybe a couple new colors call it a day like that could be the whole deal everyone need to stop talking about M3 by the way it's not coming until after the M2 cycle it's not just going to suddenly show up in in may like right we need to at least see the M2 Ultra or whatever they put in the Mac Pro like that has to happen I I mean I would say at the at the earliest we should be talking about M3 period is November of this year that still seems too early yeah it does seem early okay I want to talk about this iPhone Hardware subscription this is Mark German he's talking about all the different Financial features or like like fintech Financial tech services that Apple might be offering in the near future like Apple pay later which still hasn't launched yet dealing with financial backend whatever the apple cart savings account which was announced but also still hasn't launched yet and then two other things that Apple has not announced but German is saying is also likely coming soon Apple pay monthly and the rumored iPhone subscription and one of the thing I thought was interesting the iPhone subscription if you do the iPhone upgrade program right now which is actually what I do you can do the iPhone upgrade program sign up through Apple but it's actually not Apple doing the financial backend if you've ever done that program you find out it's a Citizens one like zero interest loan you're basically doing and the monthly payments you're doing is after 2 years you could actually own your iPhone like you would stop paying payments you don't have to give it back like it's your phone now you keep it and that would be the difference between the iPhone upgrade program which could turn into something like Apple pay monthly installments if Apple you know starts yeah you no longer Own It Apple gives you the new phone every year with a box to send back your old one right that would be the iPhone subscription model basically like you you pay a monthly price infinitely until you decide to stop but there's never a point and then shift to a buy program yeah just just like buying a car right I would I would argue though that this is actually cuz this would be bringing in house because Apple we know that the Apple pay later is going to be through Apple's own funds rather than through a bank and this Subscription Service would likely also be through Apple which brings up some interesting points they could actually bundle this with other things they could do the Apple One bundle with an iPhone right and right and in the future add more Hardware it you want a new Apple TV every year get a new homepod Mini every month yeah sure just just bring it bring the big hom plot on description so I don't cancel it again but yeah and you know as you think about Apple as a company every company has to figure out where there is a saturated market and where is there a place for growth and the financial side of what Apple does again has been outsourced either to Citizens one for the iPhone upgrade program and for the Apple card it's been Goldman Sachs which recently Goldman Sachs said that they've lost like $1.2 billion on the Apple card deal which also begs the question would Apple also lose a bunch of money doing the financial services themselves I'm not sure well the interesting thing around reporting here is is there's new credit cards every day and there's people paying attention on the fintech side of things of how these things roll out and evolve over time it almost never earns money immediately these these kinds of cards are the long-term game they're getting people into their program and they're getting money in their Bank they're increasing interest they're getting late payments from people ultimately the more people have the card the more money they're going to make it's at the beginning especially the first year or two you're not going to see like the kind of growth that like Wall Street expects like this isn't some unicorn that's just going to lay money immediately so I don't I wouldn't look at those numbers and be worried about Apple card going away or something or like Goldman Sachs backing out this is just normal but it was enough to say for Goldman Sachs to say you know what this whole marus thing that we're trying to do and trying to change it back to a Goldman Sachs credit card that's too much liability we're just going to go back to being more of a business first model and that's fine but it does seem to have pushed back against the Apple savings account which was also going to be through Goldman Sachs right my question to you and maybe for our listeners I've done the iPhone upgrade program for years I think at least since the iPhone 7 or 10 somewhere around there and I like it I like because Apple Care Plus is built into the cost I like getting a new iPhone every year Apple's backend through the Apple Store of doing that program every year is pretty seamless I've never missed like a launch day iPhone because the upgrade program was doing weird stuff so I would think I would probably be the candidate for an iPhone subscription model where I just send the iPhone back every year I get a new one and there's never a time where I would own the phone if I you know kept it for two years but also even though I have literally never done this I also kind of like the idea that if I wanted to keep the phone for two years I then could own it and so like my own actions throughout the past five or six years does not like lend itself to for that for me choosing that you know but I still like the idea that I could own it after two years so like which one would you do if these two options were available pay forever keep getting a new phone all the time or pay forever but at least after two years you could choose to own the phone all right well let me bring some life experience and anyone who's over the age of like 25 might know about this so I've both bought brand new cars off of the lot it was the year 2016 I bought a 2016 Honda Civic right you know and I've also went I was in the military and single I had money just just how it goes usually those guys that get those bonuses the first thing they do is go out and buy like the most expensive sports car they can afford thankfully I just got a Honda Cass so and and I I did that and I've also done let's go lease this car and go lease a 2018 CRV or whatever right so from my experience buying is always twice as much twice as expensive as leasing my payments on a brand new vehicle were in the $550 range per month for a like2 $2,000 car right and my payments for leasing a a very similarly priced car were like $220 month payments and I have a and that's because they know they're getting it back and you're liable for damages you're liable for mileage and stuff there's there's rules there and there will probably be rules with the iPhone thing you can't turn in a broken phone that's hanging off by a thread right so so I have a feeling that this is going to work the same way and I am very much here for it I'm going to save money wherever I can and I definitely buy this the new iPhone every year so I will sign up for this because it will undoubtedly be cheaper very likely include some perks like here's just do this upgrade program add $10 to the top and you get the Apple One Premium bundle right like like Apple's going to incentivize this to death and I'm here for it and I know the other side of this conversation because I've been there right I've I've had to get out of serious St before Apple entering the payment markets of loans savings accounts possibly in the future a checking account even just all these little things seems scary because sadly the United States is one of the worst countries in the world for finance and our our country likes I don't know if people overseas are aware of this it is very much built on predat predatory loan practices and getting people into debt forever so that they're they borrow $1,000 and then they're paying $50 a month to keep that $1,000 basically right like that kind of stuff is everywhere and I don't think Apple's going to be that predatory they even have a clause in the testing phase right now of the Apple pay later that delinquent fees and stuff like that will not affect your Apple ID they're not going to just shut off your ability to use the app store if you're late on a loan payment so they could right they're they're perfectly within their right to but again because laws are weird but I I think apple is going to play this safe they want to just like with the Apple card they want to reinvent financing and I have a little bit more trust for them than say something like Bank of America so we'll see how this goes sure sure yeah it's it's going to be interesting to see which of these fintech products that they offer and yeah which one I would choose I don't know honestly I'm going to use all of it I'm I'm absolutely I this I'm in a good financial position where I I don't have I I again I don't think there's any risk here I mean could you imagine Apple like blundering this in a way like just that would be bad yeah and I think you know it's funny the checking account thing like Apple pay cash it can almost act as that you know if you if you did a lot of like payment transfers that way you can use the Apple Cash Card whatever to pay like at a posos if we could direct deposit our right right that be thing no what I think what's awful well because Google if I I I bring this up I don't use the platform but I'm I'm aware of the fact that one of those Google pay systems has a checking thing in it like you can just pay bills with it right it's weird I don't know how it works I think you can just sign into to your existing checking account but that's kind of what I'm looking for with Apple I don't think they're going to open a bank with checking accounts in it but I think you'll be able to sign in to your your thing maybe they'll partner with a digital first client like Chase Bank or something that'll let you have more utility but yeah maybe you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket but I feel safe in the idea of yeah let's just do a the savings account with Apple pay cash let's next time I want to buy like PlayStation VR2 is coming out in a couple weeks maybe I'll use Apple pay later to to pay four payments on that or Apple's VR headset is going to be $3,000 maybe we we need to do four payments on that right oh you know now wow now that you just said that the last rumor I was going to talk about was Mark Gman from Bloomberg also saying that once again mixed reality headset at WWDC that like that's when it's coming like that that almost completes the picture if Apple could put in place some kind of Apple pay later or installment payments and then sells a $2,500 mixed reality headset and they say buy it with your Apple card and then you can pay for it over the next year two years however long you want maybe it's zero interest maybe it's much lower interest than you would get with other credit cards like that does feel equal but I also want to say on the mixed reality headset just moving away from the financial stuff right moving on yeah I I'm kind of tired of the mixed reality rumors I'll be honest like I feel like even German has been saying multiple times over the last year it's coming at WWDC 2022 and then it's coming in the fall of this year and oh no there's a rumor you can go back to I saw someone shared on Twitter you can go back to like 2019 the Apple virtual reality headset possible at 2020 WWDC yeah it's been around for a while because Ming quo started talking about this in like 2016 specifically around Apple glass the what at the time it wasn't called that but we call it that now it's the apple right see-through AR glasses that are going to be able to project things into reality that's where it started and it was like yeah 2019 Apple glass you know alongside the Apple car and the Apple Spaceship but um the then it shifted back they had to walk it back and said you know AR is actually really hard and how are we going to fit all this stuff into a set of glasses Apple's going to do a headset first and that started in around 2019 or so and since we've been talking about headset any day now any day now and I think the reality of it is is if you look if you're on the inside of Apple pun pun intended right oh gosh but if you look at Apple from the inside if you're one of those engineers in there they're like of course it looks like it's coming out any day now we've been ordering hundreds of versions of this headset trying to perfect it and they all are terrible because VR honestly is not a mass Market item it is very non-apple in in its sales pitch it's going to sell okay it's going to be for developers to get ready for the AR revolution in the future but how does Apple release a piece of hardware and not make it about the consumer so they keep having this internal conflict for years now on why should we even do this and I think this is the same story as the foldable handset the phone or the iPad because it was a fad oh it was like it was like 3D televisions all over H making enemies left and right yes oh yes holdable phones are a fad fight me I will say the 3D TV thing I I think that is a good comparison because I remember 3D TV was all did you I bought a 3D TV for $5,000 yes oh my goodness so again so I was in the military I was in the nuclear field they gave me money I was very young and stupid and I was like wow this 55 in Sony 4K 3D TV one of the first on the market I should glasses did you have to were active glasses you turn them on if you use them on a Navy vessel I've talked about this on the podcast before but it's been long enough if you if you use active glasses on a Navy vessel the fluorescent lights are wired out of phase so if you turn them on it turns the room into a disco because all of the lights are blinking out of phase because the frequency of the glasses are different from the frequency of the lights it's hilarious anyway I actually owned a few 3D TVs over time I upgraded to a Samsung one long story short it was expensive and stupid I shouldn't have done it but I enjoyed the 3D movies I still own 3D Blu-rays in a box in my closet that I I'm not going to get rid of cuz they're hilarious anyway just collected a of them but they're useless now I I don't have a 3D TV anymore I sold all of them but like yeah it was a fat it was fun I spent money on it I had money to spend on it they it added something to it a lot of people were like no we're not watching this in 3D so ID end up watching them myself or with like one other person because it was enjoyable but silly 3D gaming on PS3 was a thing for a while like that was cool it was yeah sickening but fun but yeah like it was a fad and it came and went and no one's talking about 3D anymore remember in like 2014 when everyone's like this Android phone has a 3D screen that you don't need glasses for apple is falling behind right I oh I remember I had a friend who had the HTC whatever that had like stereoscopic cameras so you could like take a 3D picture and then see the 3D picture on the phone but you couldn't see it anywhere else like you had to have that exact phone to see it and the Nintendo 3DS with a 3D depth slider like this stuff comes and goes and it was it was of its time people exced about it but technology evolved Beyond it we learned that 3D wasn't it but ldar was and that would be used for augmented reality which is the future right now anyway and that could change and that's how technology evolves but foldables it's not it's not the future foldables are teaching us how to better miniaturize things how to add more moving parts and more technology to a device that is normally stationary and that could evolve into popup camera lenses and things that don't die after 5 months right like these things are evolving in a way that will better future Technologies maybe TVs that can you know fold into the wall or something silly I don't know but like it's just not the future of handsets because the technology by the time it becomes cheap enough to make we will have moved on from it I will say I I was actually at a concert the other night and as the concert was going on people were taking videos of a concert which let's be honest nobody watches after the fact but this person had a foldable phone I don't know which one it was it might but he had it open and it was like Square while it was open so it seemed like one of like the taller ones that open up mm and he was filming with it and at first I was like of all the use cases it is cool because he's still using the good camera of his phone where you know this is the equivalent like when you see people with iPads trying to take video they do it because it's a big viewfinder for what they're recording but the iPad camera is not great modern iPad sure okay whatever anyway he's using his good phone camera he's taking a video and the folded out screen provides a bigger view of what he's capturing and I thought that might be kind of useful but then I also realized it's a square screen and he's recording video so he's not seeing some of the video that's being recorded like it wasn't letter box there wasn't black lines on the top and bottom it was like zoom in if you pinch the zoom out yeah if you pinch the zoom out it would not take up the full screen and the effect would be be lost right so I even that I was like I don't know I don't know and I don't I really don't think people are taking notes on their like handwritten notes in meetings anymore I think people are typing on whatever devices don't get me wrong like it's cool I would love to own one of these if they weren't $2,000 like I would love to play with it they're interesting they're fun but they are not where we're going and if there's any evidence of that look at Samsung's last quarter they had a 6 % drop in I think revenue or profits whichever I know those are significantly different numbers but what they lost a lot of money last quarter and a lot of and they've had to cut back on their foldables division like because they're not selling them they're like as much as they advertise them because let me let me give you a hint the more Samsung advertises something the more desperate they are to sell it right they don't have to advertise the things that are selling well the s23 ultra or whatever like that's going to sell and even even then that's not even their bestselling phone their bestselling phone cost $200 right and it's like the j23 or something and they sell mil internationally internationally yeah you know what I'm talking about but like so I had a point fads so 3D TVs foldable phones virtual reality virtual reality is important right again it's the technology that's leading to Future Technologies but regular people I don't it's just not going to penetrate businesses sure there's like the hollow ones got is gone like Microsoft has been talking about that device for years and it's just gone they're giving up on it because even businesses just couldn't find enough practical uses sometimes just your eyeballs and a sheet of paper is enough and so go walking all this all the way back VR and foldables both inside of Apple being worked on because the technology at the time was exciting and it still is it deserved to be developed but that does not necessarily mean that Apple has to release it even if they spent years and millions of dollars in R&D it may just never a lot today because consumers have moved on and I think VR even with psvr2 coming out like this this month and that being still very much part of the Zeitgeist it's like look at what's happening with Facebook they're changing I I think this may I I haven't been able to verify this but I did see evidence that they're probably going to change their NASDAQ ticker back to Facebook instead of meta like yeah because like Facebook's still focused on the metaverse sure but they they need to go back to where they make actual money which is Facebook and not this madeup metaverse nonsense okay I want to get to the Dropbox and apple API thing but just quickly to wrap up the mixed reality thing I I am less and less convinced every time now I I hear these rumors but what do you think percentage wise that we're going to see this headset launched at WWDC in like three months oh you know I'm actually despite all of what I just said I think it could definitely come out like I'm at like 60% okay because th this this does sound like a thing that needs to exist again they're going to sell 12 of them to developers because it's a stepping stone to what's next it's going to happen but Apple I think is less interested in how much money they're going to make off of it and that's why it's going to come out it's going to cost $3,000 they're probably going to make each one as they're ordered rather than stockpiling it and then they're going to move on from it in two years and I think that's perfectly fine for this product I'm 50/50 I'm going to go a little lower but I you know there's still a chance I mean so many rumors you can't ignore it so I'm going to say 50% chance but we'll see we got a few months away this episode is brought to you by our 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changing the location of your Dropbox folder will no longer be supported by macz these next several points are dropbox's explanation of the changes they said due to the change of the Dropbox folder location files that were previously Linked In some thirdparty applications will need to be linked again storing your Dropbox folder on an external drive is no longer supported by Mac OS your Dropbox folder and finder will now be found under locations and no longer under favorites but individual folders from your Dropbox can be moved to the favorites bar like in the finder so basically you won't be able to choose where that Dropbox folder lives on your Mac and that might cause some weirdness with like finder and search now there were a bunch of people that were saying this is going to mess with their workflow I actually had one person reach out to me specifically Steven Bon uh also Steven with a pH so thank you very much but he was basically saying he does a lot of audio work he typically has his Dropbox fold are sinking to an external drive because he works with directors and or clients and there's like hundreds of gigabytes of files that would not fit probably on his internal Mac if he was sying all of it he's got like protool sessions and all that I understand I guess this is probably a security measure for Apple like basically forcing cloud services Apple seems to be telling cuz I haven't found documentation on this but Apple seems to be directly telling people affected by this that this is a privacy I get it I mean I'll be honest I still use dropbox personally I don't have it installed on my Mac like I don't autosync the folder anymore I literally go to dropbox.com and upload or download folders if I need to I've been using iCloud drive more often for a lot of my personal files and stuff and and it's been working pretty well for that but I also understand iCloud Drive is still not as robust for some of these like commercial or client work stuff and sharing folders what what's happening here this this affects the file provider API and I don't know enough about this I'm not a developer to really dig in but I will say this seems to affect a very specific group of apps so someone on the Dropbox forums mentioned like we're going to have to move to a different service well I think this is what's interesting here is this is going to affect anything using this API the file provider API and I personally don't know how if I I'm assuming developers can make apps and systems for Mac OS without using the file provider API they might not be able to use the Mac App Store but you could still get them so there will still be Services out there that allow you to do Mass cloud storage local storage with an external drive it just has to go through a completely different system so it's going to be a more Niche use case it's probably going to be more expensive and you're you're going to have to pay them directly and not through apple and on top of that I believe why Dropbox is sticking with this API rather than moving to something else so they don't have this catastrophe happen is because it's a more consumer focused business and they want the ease of use of the file provider API more people are going to use it for you know the silly stuff like syncing photos or small document files not managing an entire video producer Network right well and I'm curious if there's listeners out there obviously Steven Bon is going to be affected if this is something that you do or would be affected by let me know I also know that there's like also third-party like Dropbox clients you can use that basically do the same thing they sync your Dropbox content to your Mac but you don't have to use dropboxes first part party application he uses like some other weird thing I don't know if that is also going to be broken I've heard Marco Armen talk about it yeah let us know if this affects you specifically I'd be curious like what actually happens supposedly this update is going to be coming out like in the next couple days and like you won't it'll be forced like it's not even something that you're going to be able to take action on yeah if you restart your computer the update's installed it's over yeah I have to we'll have to look more into it see if there's any documentation in the next few days and we'll do a followup maybe on the next episode but yeah interesting change well real quick here at the end do want to say we're not going to talk a ton about Mastadon and Twitter I had a couple people on Twitter basically saying they're tired of hearing about Mastadon I don't know but I do want to say just personally I talked about the last on the last episode that I set up this like if action to Auto post to Mastadon whenever I tweeted it was still working after the API changes that Twitter made so like if you wanted to use that system like go for it but what I did find like if I actually want to provide good content to those following me on Mastadon that kind of Auto posting from Twitter was not that kind of Auto posting from Twitter was not a great experience because sorry because if you would do like multiple photos like if I posted like three photos in a tweet it would basically just show up as like a Twitter link to Mastadon or if there was like a link to the Apple Insider podcast and a photo basically the Mastadon post was like several t.co links and you couldn't see anything there was no preview like it was a bad experience experience so I turned it off I think come like event time like the next time there's an Apple event and I'm going to be like live posting updates I might turn it back on then just because time is usually of the essence and it's going to be pretty difficult to manage posting to those two platforms manually and typically in those situations like I'm just posting like regular text and hashtags yeah but if it's just text and hashtags this this works but as soon as you move beyond that if if you tag a person or add any data anything yeah it ruins it the tagging thing is weird also I I said I was going to talk about Maston but related I figured I how to like run your own Mastadon server which I thought was pretty cool there's like hosting providers where you could pay $6 a month and do it I'm thinking about it I'm thinking about it too like it's literally all set up like I could press a button and be on my own server but as some people on Mastadon pointed out when you go to discover or go to the local timeline in Mastadon it only shows people from that server and so I would not appear for people that are on like the Mastadon social server and like discoverability might take a hit like for people finding me a little bit you'd have to just again hashtags are everything on midon and you can use apps like Mona to follow other servers locals so you could actually make your own server then add Macedon doso and stuff like that to your account and then go post from there it's interesting I there's workarounds people are trying to figure this out but all you really need is people from other servers to boost your post and you're still getting discovered you'll still I did want to mention the reason why your Twitter thing might have still been working is because they actually haven't shifted over the API They delayed it again so that's right that's right that will eventually break I'm sorry there's no read permission going to happen in this new API World regardless of what they do they are trying to offer a free read API for like what like 1,500 tweets but yeah we're getting there all right all right and last thing I had this on the list to talk to you specifically about and it's mechanical keyboards because I had have several mechanical keyboards I have the keyron K2 and the K3 I got them several years ago every once in a while I'll pull them out excited to loudly type and clickity Clack and have my kids go what's that like they every time I type on the keyron K2 it's like the entire house wonders what's happening I always want to try and use it I kind of like typing on it I always go back to the magic keyboard for a couple reasons and after I tell you my reasons maybe you can convince me to use a mechanical keyboard after that number one is Touch ID Touch ID is just so good on the Mac now it's built into the magic keyboard using a mechanical keyboard I literally have to keep my magic keyboard somewhere accessible for that touch ID thing and that feels like double work and so Touch ID always has me come back the key layout a lot of mechanical keyboards they'll put the command key where it belongs but not the option key on the right side like if you look at Apple's magic keyboard command and option are both on the right and left of the space bar and I have so many shortcuts and hotkeys that I do where I will use the option and command on the right side and my keyron K2 and K3 both lack that button now I know I could remap buttons or whatever but I don't want to get into that also paste and match style is something I do all the time if you don't know about the keyboard shortcut you should do it and that's shift option command V and so like that alone I do multiple times a day and I can't do it on the mechanical keyboard easily there's that and then finally wrist angle and maybe you've figured this out but whenever I TI with the mechanical keyboard and I like the K2 more because it's louder and it feels more substantial but I use a wrist rest on the K2 because otherwise it's uncomfortable but I I can never get it ideal and if I don't use a wrist rest and try to just like hover my hands over the keyboard like that feels weird and I tried for a day I try to get used to it for maybe a day or two but I just always go back to the magic keyboard and so is there any secret to transitioning to a magic keyboard there's one guy on on Mastadon Brad thornborough he said that he tried the K1 and K3 and those didn't work for him but for some reason the K8 really worked and it it just clicked pun intended uh so I don't know how how do you get used to a mechanical keyboard Wes well you just get good that's my only advice well all right that wraps it wraps it up I mean I've been using mechanical keyboards for a while I don't really use Apple's magic keyboard anymore unless it's like on an iPad keyboard or or the actual ual MacBook keys I use the q1 pro keyron right now it's the you can it's yeah it it weighs like a lot it's stainless steel you could probably use it as a home defense weapon but it's really it's really nice I like it has a volume knob your issue with the keys it's cuz you're just you're doing mechanical keyboards wrong just change the key caps and reprogram the keys do it one time I'm holding it wrong change the key caps reprogram the keys to be what you want it to be I'm holding it wrong what is that thing called it's it's a it's a key yeah but forget all that nonsense you can program the actual keyboard system settings using via software some key crons don't do this but most of the new ones do they're programmable key set so the actual each like key can be programmed this isn't a Mac OS fix this is you're programming the keyboard so if you plug it into an iPad or any other Mac in your house it will still be programmed to use those keys that way and yeah you can program macros you can change the volume knob to be a slider in Photoshop if you want to like like you can really go and so you do it one time you change the key caps to say the right option command or whatever and you're done don't do it in Mac OS do it via the keyboard software but yeah outside of that actually learning to type on it it's it's just a learning curve you'll have to get used to it you have to find what's comfortable I use a wrist rest the q1 pro is a really high up mechanical keyboard the wrist rest I have is made by Kyron it rests right against it it keeps my hands at a reasonable height I sometimes I hover sometimes I actually rest it down it just really depends on how I feel and yeah you just kind of just got to do it just get used to it I guess it's different you're it's like holding a different controller it's like using an Xbox controller and then using a PlayStation controller and like being like why are all the buttons in the wrong place well 10 minutes 10 minutes into the video game you're going to forget those buttons are in the wrong place and I think think it works the same way for keyboards do you have the red brown or banana switches I don't know what banana is but I usually get the red switches yeah red is a nice clickey clack not too loud but it still makes a clacking but you get pretty good from it too like the keys pop back into place quickly they're they're I've used brown switches too but those tend to be louder I think I'm might try you can't order it right now it's just on Kickstarter you have to pre-order it soon oh yeah I review units are weird I never know what out or not anymore we we reviewed this on Apple Insider I think Tyler Hayes actually did the final review and you can see that live on our website so gotcha okay I'll put a link to that I will maybe I'll reach out to them maybe I can get an early thing or whatever I'll try it I I'll I'll try once again but I'll try the q1 pro listeners if you have mechanical keyboard that you love let me know and to the like button getting used to thing I just want to say I did finally play golden eye on the Xbox One S The Nostalgia level was incredible I mean I was just reliving my adolescence it was amazing I played golden eye last week on my Nintendo 64 downstairs oh I still got it for my Nintendo 64 too I still got it for that but I wanted to try the the remastered 4K quote unquote if I'm going to play it on the Nintendo switch I'm going to go buy the Bluetooth Nintendo 64 controller and play it with that at that I did on the Xbox I don't know why I do I would want to get the N64 controller because the Xbox the controls were so weird I went through like it's so weird yeah the C mapping the C buttons to the second analog stick does not work the C buttons the C buttons is what messed me up and I tried several different like controller configurations I finally got used to I think it was the Domino controller configuration I finally did that but anyway I just want to say that the facility level for Golden Eye where if you finish it under 2 minutes and 5 Seconds you get the invincibility cheat I still got it I still did it still did it uh it took me like I don't know probably two hours it took me a couple hours but I did it it's so funny because we're not we're we've talked about our age before we're not that far but gener but generationally though we're in that weird hump where golden eye for you was like you were like a teenager or something right like and and it was like this video game is built for me it's made for me I can play it I understand what's happening I was like seven and I was able to jump in and play it I had a I have a Nostalgia for it too cuz we me and my friends would get together the four player the split screen and stuff but I had no idea what that game was about I didn't know what double like we watched the movies growing up but it was just it just was a different element in my head so you talking about like yeah I did all these special things like man you handed me a controller I had a gun and I was shooting people and that's what I that's the difference in in like in in immersiveness of this game from back then I just had to laugh at that yeah yeah that's fun all right well very cool well listeners again let us know what mechanical keyboards do you absolutely love so maybe I can try them also you can tweet or Mastadon West and myself we're both very active on both platforms those links are in the show notes you can of course support the show directly in apple podcast and you get an adree version of the show plus Early Access thank you to all of 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