When it comes to Forza Horizon 5, medium settings at 1080p with no FSR, the performance jump from a Ryzen Z1 Extreme to an HX 370 is not as significant as one might expect. In fact, the HX 370 manages to offer around 6-8% faster performance compared to the Ryzen Z1 Extreme, which is still a notable improvement but not necessarily groundbreaking.

However, it's worth noting that this performance jump is more of an average and may vary depending on individual gaming experiences. The author of the video emphasizes that they don't usually rely on presets when playing games and instead take settings down due to the low-end GPU capabilities of these handheld devices. They recall their experience with the RO G Allyx, where they had to dial back settings to 900p Performance mode in Low settings to achieve smooth gameplay.

This approach is crucial when dealing with integrated graphics in handheld devices, as there's a limit to how much performance can be squeezed out of them without compromising battery life. The author believes that 900p still looks good for AAA games on these displays and notes that the average frame rate on the Z1 Extreme was around 67 FPS, while on the HX 370 it averaged 77 FPS - a difference of around 15%.

While the performance jump from Ryzen Z1 Extreme to HX 370 is notable, the author wonders if it would be worth upgrading to an HX 370 in a handheld device like the Rog Ally or even the Steam Deck, which they don't think will happen anytime soon. They believe that the current Zen-based Ryzen processor in the HX 370 offers decent performance with driver optimizations from AMD.

However, there's room for improvement, and future updates may bring significant performance boosts to this hardware. The author suspects that AMD might be working on something like the Z2 Extreme, possibly using Zen 5 cores and new architectures like RDNA 3.5 or rebranding existing technology without the "X" moniker.

As of now, the article concludes by asking viewers to share their thoughts in the comments: would they purchase a device with the new Ryzen AI-powered HX 370 if it offered performance similar to the Z1 Extreme but with more power-efficient design and potentially better battery life? Or would they stick with what they have? The author thanks viewers for watching and invites them to participate in the discussion.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwhat's going on everybody it's ETA Prime back here again today we're going to be putting the AMD ryzen Z1 extreme up against the allnew AMD ryzen AI 9hx 370 basically the question I had here was if Asus had used this chip in the Rog Lix over the Z1 extreme what kind of performance Gams would we see and the reason I chose the HX 370 was because we've got that new rdna 3.5 igpu with 16 compute units compared to the Z1 extremes igpu based on rdna 3 with only 12 compute units so far I've been seeing some really interesting results especially at lower tdps with this new ryzen AI chip it's actually a really great performer at those lower wattages and if you're familiar with the Rog Alx you know that in performance mode with the new set up here it'll run at 17 watts in turbo mode it goes up to 25 and I also wanted to test at a 30 wat TDP between these two chips now when it comes down to the main differences here basically this is what we've got so over on the MD ryzen Z1 extreme we've got eight cores 16 threads up to 5.1 GHz and this chip is based on Zen 4 we've also got those Radeon rdna 3 Graphics so it's basically the same thing as the 780 Mii GPU with 12 compute units up to 2700 MHz and in the new X we've actually got much faster Ram which helps out with that igpu it's running at 7500 MHz instead of the old Rog allies 64 over on the AMD ryzen AI 9hx 370 we've got got a 12 core CPU with 24 threads and this is based on Zen 5 AMD finally kind of added their efficiency cores so we've actually got four Zen 5 cores and eight Zen 5 C cores those are more of the efficient cores this will also boost up to 5.1 GHz but instead of having an rdna 3i GPU they've upgraded to the new Radeon 890m it's based on rdna 3.5 and we've got more cus here more compute units 16 instead of 12 and this igpu will now boost up to 2900 MHz starting out here with CPU performance I'm going to be testing at 25 watts so basically performance mode just for the CPU we're going to move over to some different tdps with gaming but using geekbench 6 the HX 370 got a single core of 2,842 multi 12,529 and if we just take a look at this single core about 15% greater than the Z1 extreme multi 18% greater so we got a nice little jump here but you know when it comes down to it that Z1 extreme can really hold its own when it comes to gaming on the CPU side of things but I did want to test one more here we've got CCH r24 at a 25 wat TDP remember this is basically performance mode total multicore score here for the uh Z1 extreme 709 on the HX 370 965 marks with 3D Mark time spy at a 17 wat TDP the HX 370 is coming ahead by 25% so we got a total score here of 3,343 and then when we move up to a 25 wat TDP that Gap really closes and I did run this a few times because I thought something might be off here but as you can see I mean we're not that far off coming in with almost 7% difference obviously that HX 370 is coming ahead and the same thing at a 30 wat TDP only a 7% difference remember both of these units are using LP ddr5x Ram we tested at 17 25 and a 30 W TDP I also went ahead and ran the geek bench 6 open CL GPU Benchmark on that new HX 370 with the Radeon 890m we scored a 34,0 825 on the Rog Alx with basically the Radeon 780m 28840 giving us a 20% lead on the HX now it's time to check out some real world gaming and I did choose a few different games different genres just to kind of get a broad view of what's going on here cyberpunk 77 1080p medium settings no FSR running at a 17 watt 25 and a 35 wat TDP same settings across the board at a 17 watt TDP on the Z1 extreme we got an average of 34 on the HX 370 average of 42 25 watts the Z1 extreme jumped up to an average of 39 and the 370 jumped up to 48 and finally at a 30 wat TDP 43 on that Z1 and 52 on the 370 so so across the board here with cyberpunk 2077 looks like the HX 370 with that new rdna 3.5 IP was 17 to 20% faster in cyberpunk 2077 depending on what kind of wattage you're running the chip at using the built-in Benchmark for Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 High settings 1080p FSR is set to balance 20 to 25% faster on the new HX 370 so this is a pretty big jump here and just right there at 25 watts you can see that the 370 did have an average of 61 giving us a really playable experience as opposed to the Z1 extremes average of 51 FPS I know shadow of the Tomb Raider is an older game but it's still one I always like to Benchmark I've been trying to get any of these chips to run at a constant 60 at medium setting so medium 1080p were 16 to 19% faster than the Z1 extreme on the new HX 370 but none of these chips were able to get a constant 60 or over with these wattages we used here so 7 25 and 30 watt GTA 5 high settings 1080p 17 watt coming in with a 65 average on that HX 370 and across the board 11 to 133% faster than the Z1 extreme now when it comes to Forza Horizon 5 medium settings 1080p no FSR not that big of a jump and I kind of didn't suspect it would be given that this game is very well optimized 370 is only 6 to 8% faster than the ryzen Z1 extreme so far on average it looks like that HX 370 at the same wattages same settings here as the Z1 extreme comes ahead by about 13 to 20% in gaming performance but when it comes to these handheld gaming devices personally I don't ever go into a game and just use a preset I usually take some settings down because I understand that we've got a lowend GPU here whether we're working with rdna 3 or 3.5 for instance with cyberpunk 2077 when I'm playing on the RO G allyx I take it down to 900p Performance mode low settings and you can see the difference here by the end of this Benchmark we'll definitely get an idea and I know everybody does game differently I know it would be really nice to grab one of these handhelds go into a game turn all of the settings up all the way and game over 60 FPS but unfortunately that's just not the way it is right now with these integrated Graphics so you really got to kind of pick and choose how you want to run these games and personally on these 7-in displays that are used in a lot of these handhelds I think 900p still looks really good for these AAA games and at the end of this Benchmark on the Z1 extreme we had an average of 67 FPS over on the HX 370 an average of 77 giving us around a 15% difference between the two at the same wattages so at the time of making this video it looks like we could see up to a 20% increase in gaming performance using an HX 370 in the handheld like this but in the end I mean would it really be worth it if another handheld hits the market with an HX 370 and matches the price of the Rog Alx or even goes lower to the steam deck which I really don't think is going to happen then yeah it would definitely be worth it but right now I think the Asus has a pretty decent thing going with that ryzen Z1 extreme the driver optimizations that they've done to their drivers for the Alli and the allix are pretty awesome when you compare this to the performance of something with a 78m and just kind of that stock AMD driver because after all they've actually had a lot of time to work on it remember the original Rog Ally has the same exact chip we've basically just got faster Ram here and it has gotten much better since launch on the Z1 extreme and I suspect down the road we'll see a nice bump in performance on the HX 370 also as soon as more people get their hands on it but for now I would have loved to see a bigger jump in performance with this new 890m igpu and I know a lot of people were kind of expecting more of a performance bum I'd say you know up to 30 40% increase in gaming performance performance and at higher wattages this HX 370 can definitely perform but we're not going to be doing that in a handheld device we're going to keep that wattage low get some good battery life and I really wanted to match what the Z1 extreme is doing right now in the allix we've got that 80w hour battery and even at a 20 W TDP this thing gets great battery life I suspect the AMD does have something in the works right now maybe something like the uh Z2 extreme not exactly sure what they're going to be calling in personally I have a feeling that they will be using Zen 5 and those Zen 5c cores to keep that power down but I'm not sure if they're going to go with rdna 3.5 like this 890m maybe just rebranded without the xdna or ryzen AI built-in like they did with the Z1 extreme but we'll just have to wait and see what they have in the works so yeah this was just kind of a first test kind of comparing it against that Z1 extreme up to 20% performance increase with this new ryzen Ai and that 890m igpu I'd love to know your thoughts in the comments I mean would it be worth some company out there building a machine with the new ryzen AI HX 370 knowing that we're only going to get you know that kind of performance jump not super massive it definitely helps out but is that something you would purchase would you kind of skip it stick with what you got let me know down below like always thanks for watchingwhat's going on everybody it's ETA Prime back here again today we're going to be putting the AMD ryzen Z1 extreme up against the allnew AMD ryzen AI 9hx 370 basically the question I had here was if Asus had used this chip in the Rog Lix over the Z1 extreme what kind of performance Gams would we see and the reason I chose the HX 370 was because we've got that new rdna 3.5 igpu with 16 compute units compared to the Z1 extremes igpu based on rdna 3 with only 12 compute units so far I've been seeing some really interesting results especially at lower tdps with this new ryzen AI chip it's actually a really great performer at those lower wattages and if you're familiar with the Rog Alx you know that in performance mode with the new set up here it'll run at 17 watts in turbo mode it goes up to 25 and I also wanted to test at a 30 wat TDP between these two chips now when it comes down to the main differences here basically this is what we've got so over on the MD ryzen Z1 extreme we've got eight cores 16 threads up to 5.1 GHz and this chip is based on Zen 4 we've also got those Radeon rdna 3 Graphics so it's basically the same thing as the 780 Mii GPU with 12 compute units up to 2700 MHz and in the new X we've actually got much faster Ram which helps out with that igpu it's running at 7500 MHz instead of the old Rog allies 64 over on the AMD ryzen AI 9hx 370 we've got got a 12 core CPU with 24 threads and this is based on Zen 5 AMD finally kind of added their efficiency cores so we've actually got four Zen 5 cores and eight Zen 5 C cores those are more of the efficient cores this will also boost up to 5.1 GHz but instead of having an rdna 3i GPU they've upgraded to the new Radeon 890m it's based on rdna 3.5 and we've got more cus here more compute units 16 instead of 12 and this igpu will now boost up to 2900 MHz starting out here with CPU performance I'm going to be testing at 25 watts so basically performance mode just for the CPU we're going to move over to some different tdps with gaming but using geekbench 6 the HX 370 got a single core of 2,842 multi 12,529 and if we just take a look at this single core about 15% greater than the Z1 extreme multi 18% greater so we got a nice little jump here but you know when it comes down to it that Z1 extreme can really hold its own when it comes to gaming on the CPU side of things but I did want to test one more here we've got CCH r24 at a 25 wat TDP remember this is basically performance mode total multicore score here for the uh Z1 extreme 709 on the HX 370 965 marks with 3D Mark time spy at a 17 wat TDP the HX 370 is coming ahead by 25% so we got a total score here of 3,343 and then when we move up to a 25 wat TDP that Gap really closes and I did run this a few times because I thought something might be off here but as you can see I mean we're not that far off coming in with almost 7% difference obviously that HX 370 is coming ahead and the same thing at a 30 wat TDP only a 7% difference remember both of these units are using LP ddr5x Ram we tested at 17 25 and a 30 W TDP I also went ahead and ran the geek bench 6 open CL GPU Benchmark on that new HX 370 with the Radeon 890m we scored a 34,0 825 on the Rog Alx with basically the Radeon 780m 28840 giving us a 20% lead on the HX now it's time to check out some real world gaming and I did choose a few different games different genres just to kind of get a broad view of what's going on here cyberpunk 77 1080p medium settings no FSR running at a 17 watt 25 and a 35 wat TDP same settings across the board at a 17 watt TDP on the Z1 extreme we got an average of 34 on the HX 370 average of 42 25 watts the Z1 extreme jumped up to an average of 39 and the 370 jumped up to 48 and finally at a 30 wat TDP 43 on that Z1 and 52 on the 370 so so across the board here with cyberpunk 2077 looks like the HX 370 with that new rdna 3.5 IP was 17 to 20% faster in cyberpunk 2077 depending on what kind of wattage you're running the chip at using the built-in Benchmark for Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 High settings 1080p FSR is set to balance 20 to 25% faster on the new HX 370 so this is a pretty big jump here and just right there at 25 watts you can see that the 370 did have an average of 61 giving us a really playable experience as opposed to the Z1 extremes average of 51 FPS I know shadow of the Tomb Raider is an older game but it's still one I always like to Benchmark I've been trying to get any of these chips to run at a constant 60 at medium setting so medium 1080p were 16 to 19% faster than the Z1 extreme on the new HX 370 but none of these chips were able to get a constant 60 or over with these wattages we used here so 7 25 and 30 watt GTA 5 high settings 1080p 17 watt coming in with a 65 average on that HX 370 and across the board 11 to 133% faster than the Z1 extreme now when it comes to Forza Horizon 5 medium settings 1080p no FSR not that big of a jump and I kind of didn't suspect it would be given that this game is very well optimized 370 is only 6 to 8% faster than the ryzen Z1 extreme so far on average it looks like that HX 370 at the same wattages same settings here as the Z1 extreme comes ahead by about 13 to 20% in gaming performance but when it comes to these handheld gaming devices personally I don't ever go into a game and just use a preset I usually take some settings down because I understand that we've got a lowend GPU here whether we're working with rdna 3 or 3.5 for instance with cyberpunk 2077 when I'm playing on the RO G allyx I take it down to 900p Performance mode low settings and you can see the difference here by the end of this Benchmark we'll definitely get an idea and I know everybody does game differently I know it would be really nice to grab one of these handhelds go into a game turn all of the settings up all the way and game over 60 FPS but unfortunately that's just not the way it is right now with these integrated Graphics so you really got to kind of pick and choose how you want to run these games and personally on these 7-in displays that are used in a lot of these handhelds I think 900p still looks really good for these AAA games and at the end of this Benchmark on the Z1 extreme we had an average of 67 FPS over on the HX 370 an average of 77 giving us around a 15% difference between the two at the same wattages so at the time of making this video it looks like we could see up to a 20% increase in gaming performance using an HX 370 in the handheld like this but in the end I mean would it really be worth it if another handheld hits the market with an HX 370 and matches the price of the Rog Alx or even goes lower to the steam deck which I really don't think is going to happen then yeah it would definitely be worth it but right now I think the Asus has a pretty decent thing going with that ryzen Z1 extreme the driver optimizations that they've done to their drivers for the Alli and the allix are pretty awesome when you compare this to the performance of something with a 78m and just kind of that stock AMD driver because after all they've actually had a lot of time to work on it remember the original Rog Ally has the same exact chip we've basically just got faster Ram here and it has gotten much better since launch on the Z1 extreme and I suspect down the road we'll see a nice bump in performance on the HX 370 also as soon as more people get their hands on it but for now I would have loved to see a bigger jump in performance with this new 890m igpu and I know a lot of people were kind of expecting more of a performance bum I'd say you know up to 30 40% increase in gaming performance performance and at higher wattages this HX 370 can definitely perform but we're not going to be doing that in a handheld device we're going to keep that wattage low get some good battery life and I really wanted to match what the Z1 extreme is doing right now in the allix we've got that 80w hour battery and even at a 20 W TDP this thing gets great battery life I suspect the AMD does have something in the works right now maybe something like the uh Z2 extreme not exactly sure what they're going to be calling in personally I have a feeling that they will be using Zen 5 and those Zen 5c cores to keep that power down but I'm not sure if they're going to go with rdna 3.5 like this 890m maybe just rebranded without the xdna or ryzen AI built-in like they did with the Z1 extreme but we'll just have to wait and see what they have in the works so yeah this was just kind of a first test kind of comparing it against that Z1 extreme up to 20% performance increase with this new ryzen Ai and that 890m igpu I'd love to know your thoughts in the comments I mean would it be worth some company out there building a machine with the new ryzen AI HX 370 knowing that we're only going to get you know that kind of performance jump not super massive it definitely helps out but is that something you would purchase would you kind of skip it stick with what you got let me know down below like always thanks for watching\n"