The Disappearance of Samsung's 77in S90D Page

I recently tried to access information on the upcoming Samsung S90D model, specifically the 77-inch version. When I went to the official Samsung website to check for details, I found that they had removed a page related to this model. The page was no accident, but rather likely created by Crutchfield, which gets an info feed from Samsung and uses it to populate product pages. This suggests that Samsung plans to issue a 77in S90D, but the company has not officially confirmed this.

Samsung currently plans to release a 77in S90D, but there's always a possibility that they might change their mind about this. The main reason for the complexity surrounding the S90D model is that it comes in various screen sizes, including 42, 48, and 83 inches. However, these smaller sizes do not feature QD OLED panels, as Samsung Display only makes TV-sized QD OLED panels in 55, 65, and 77-inch sizes.

Samsung buys LG displays' W OLED panels for the 42, 48, and 83-inch S90D models. This might be because they cannot produce QD OLED panels with their high color brightness and saturation in other sizes. It's unclear why Samsung wouldn't want to compete with LG and Sony by offering its own flavor of OLED TV in those smaller sizes. However, the company does want to make money from these sales.

The S90D is a confusing TV series if you choose to follow the rabbit hole down far enough. Many people will just see a price they like on a Samsung OLED TV in a size that they want and pull the trigger without much consideration of other factors. Samsung, however, has not made any official statements about this model, leaving everything up to speculation.

There are rumors circulating that Samsung is saving the QN95D for release in certain regions. This TV might feature an Alpha9 Gen 4+ processor with an AdS Pro panel, which some people prefer due to its superior performance. The presence of a One Connect box, possibly with more mini LED backlights and dimming zones close to those found on 8K Neo CED TVs, adds another layer of intrigue.

It's unclear whether the QN95D will be released in the US or not. In Europe, where it might find greater success due to market demand, Samsung has already released this model last year. However, there are rumors that the company might avoid releasing the QN95D in the US due to power efficiency laws. These laws require 8K TVs to have more power to achieve the same brightness as their KTV counterparts.

As for the S89D, I'm unsure about its specifications and performance. Last year's model was confusing, but it also turned out to be a great deal for many buyers. The important thing is that Samsung remains tight-lipped about this model, leaving everything up to speculation.

Ultimately, there's no guarantee of anything when it comes to Samsung's TV releases. The company has confirmed the availability of its S90D and QN95D models in various regions, but the specifics remain unclear.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enI'm sure you've seen a lot of videos about Samsung's new TV lineup and I understand if  you're confused or frustrated so I'm going to help clear some things up for you rightnow welcome back everyone I'm Caleb Denison and while it's great that Samsung's 2024 TV lineup  offers a ton of options to choose from that can also be daunting especially when there's a bunch  of videos going up on YouTube talking about how this model doesn't have this one panel like it  used to and this other model has this anti-glare thing that you may or may not like and this one  size may or may not exist now or in the future so here's a clean easy to understand rundown of  Samsung's TV lineup and along the way I'm going to try to decrypt some of the stuff that you may  have seen online recently let's start at the entry point of Samsung's TV lineup these are Samsung's  Crystal UHD TV and they are the models that you're likely to see at stores like Target Walmart or  pretty much any other place that sells more than just electronics the Crystal UHD lineup includes  the DU7000 series and the DU8000 series they range in size from 43 in all the way up to 85 in  these are what I like to call Samsung's bread and butter TVs they are real workhorses if you want an  inexpensive TV for a spare room or a garage or you just want to get at as big a TV as you can  and you aren't super picky about picture quality the Crystal UHD line is definitely worth a look  they are not super stripped down you get three HDMI inputs Samsung's Tizen Smart TV platform  with all the apps that you need and they can get pretty bright they are called HDR TVs but they  don't do HDR nearly as well as some of Samsung's slightly more expensive TVs and that's okay they  are meant to be very budget friendly and speaking of budgets if you want to save even more money you  can go back to the 2023 models the CU7000 and CU8000 I mean the 85 in CU7000 has a suggested  retail price of just $1,100 and as it ages out it may dip down under a grand that's a pretty  compelling deal and these TVs are super easy to find I think they end up being like uh impulse  buys for a lot of folks because Samsung is a trusted brand and the prices are pretty compelling  moving up in the line gets you to Samsung's QLED TVs the Q stands for Quantum dots which increases  an LED TV's color performance and brightness the 2024 QLED models this year are the Q60D the Q70D  and Q80D and again you can save money by looking at last year's models that would be the Q60C Q70C  and Q80C C is 2023 and D is 2024 these TVs offer better color better contrast and higher brightness  than the Crystal UHD line and they start packing more bonus features into them they are all 60hz  TVs though so they won't have as smooth motion uh as some of Samsung's more expensive TVs and  while they're just fine for most video gaming they aren't going to support High refresh rates  or variable refresh rates I like to think of Samsung's QLED line as the most sensible choice  for folks who want impressive picture quality at a nice price but they don't consider themselves  to be super picky about having the best picture quality or the most advanced features moving up  from Samsung's QLED line is the Neo QLED lineup which comprises the QN85D and the QN90D these are  Samsung's most premium 4K LED TVs and that means that they have many LED backlight systems with  full local dimming for the best black levels contrast High brightness HDR they've got 120  HZ native panels with variable refresh rate and Samsung's best 4K picture processors we  also start seeing other Perks at this level like Samsung's anti-glare technology and premium sound  quality with the ability to do some pretty unique audio processing with Samsung's own Soundbars it's  safe to say that the Samsung Neo QLED TVs are for folks who want amazing picture quality and  all the bells and whistles and they're willing to pay up for it because at the end of the day  these are premium TVs with a premium price tag to match now I want to take a moment to address some  chatter that's been going on among TV enthusiasts about the kind of panel that the QN90D uses it  appears that Samsung has chosen to equip the new QN90D which for now anyway is Samsung's best 4K  LED TV more on that in a moment they've chosen to equip the QN90D with a VA type LCD panel now last  year's q9c used what's called an ads pro panel and some folks are disappointed that this year's  QN90D doesn't also have that ads pro panel so real quick an ads pro panel is lauded for its ability  to have great black levels and very good off angle viewing meaning you can sit well off to the side  of the TV without losing a whole lot of brightness contrast and color saturation it just means more  people in the room get the best picture quality VA panels have the best native black levels but  their off angle picture quality isn't quite as good as ads Pro so some enthusiasts see this  as a step backward now I asked Samsung if they would talk about what panels get used and which  sizes of the QN90D and they would not discuss anything in detail their official response is  that Samsung makes sure its customers get a great experience no matter what kind of panel is in use  which is a very PR friendly way of saying don't worry about those details just look at this great  picture on this great TV now honestly even though I hate that kind of answer the fact is that most  folks most of you watching right now don't need to worry about what kind of panel the QN90D uses what  you need to know is how the TV performs and that is what reviews are for I'll be reviewing this TV  soon and I'll let you know what I think of it for now though you can check out my first impressions  video right here but hey if you really want an ads pro panel then you can get yourself last  year's model the q90c and you'll even save a bit of money in the process the performance between  the two is going to be very close anyway moving up even further in the Samsung LED TV lineup is  the Neo QLED 8K TVs these are the most advanced most expensive LED TVs that Samsung makes the  model numbers are QN800D and QN900D these TVs get the best everything the best mini LED backlight  system the best processing they are the brightest TVs that Samsung makes they have every single  fancy feature that Samsung has to offer they are the Ultra Premium TVs Now do do you need 8K  resolution no you don't but you don't buy these Samsung 8K TVs for the resolution you buy them  because they are the best of the best and they have stuff that you won't find in the 4K lineup  are they worth the added cost in my opinion for most folks the answer is no but then most folks  can't afford them anyway these are great TVs for people who don't have to ask what they cost and  they just want to know that they got the best before I get to Samsung's OLED TV line I want  to quickly mention two specialty Samsung TVs and clear up any confusion about what it means if you  find a Samsung TV with a model number that doesn't match up with what I've mentioned in this video  first let's talk about Samsung's the Terrace and the frame the Terrace is an outdoor TV it's been  outfitted with stuff that protects it from wind and rain and dust it's built extra tough now I am  not a fan of using regular TVs outside unless you are 100% committed to taking it outside only on  nice days and only for as long as you intend to use it outside if you want a TV that can  live outdoors get an outdoor TV and Samsung's the terrorist is among the best performing if  not the best performing outdoor TV you can get from a picture quality standpoint the frame is  really something special the frame is meant to be able to look like framed art on the wall when not  being used to watch movies and TV shows or playing games it's a great TV for everyday use but it's  specifically treated screen has this matte feel and anti-glare benefit that really gives the art  it displays a realism that you've just got to see to believe it looks so convincing that you  think you could like Reach Out touch it and feel the texture of the canvas and oil paints on that  canvas now if you run into any Samsung TV model numbers that don't line up with what I've told  you about in this video or are in our graphic here like maybe it's close but off by a digit or has an  extra few letters at the end or something that's because Samsung issues certain retailers their  own TV model numbers the model is essentially the same it's just that say Best Buy will get  a special allotment or Costco will get one with a special model number now as customers that's  just confusing but retailers like it for their own internal reasons so it's a thing that we have to  deal with now we have arrived at the Samsung OLED TV lineup and here is where things get a little  bit tricky I also suspect I'm about to trigger some people Samsung makes two OLED models the  S90D and the S 95d let's start with the S 95d the best of the best or so it should be the S 95d has  what's called a QD OLED panel I've got a link to a video explaining QD OLED down below but the short  version is that QD OLED pairs Quantum dots with OLED pixel technology for what some consider to  be the ultimate OLED TV QD OLED TVs can get very bright overall but their best attribute is that  they offer the highest color brightness and best color saturation at those High color brightness  levels better than any other TV technology the S 95d has that special QD OLED panel but this year  it also has a special anti-glare treatment that has some TV enthusiasts a little bit frustrated  and so you're going to see videos about that you may also hear that the S95D has a matte screen so  let me start by debunking that myth the S 95d does not have a matte screen in the conventional sense  of that term the frame TV that I just mentioned the art TV it has a matte screen the S9 5D has a  different kind of anti-glare and anti-reflecting technology that at first glance makes the screen  appear more dull if the TV is turned off and the screen is perfectly black however I found  that once the TV is turned on and it's making a picture the anti-glare and anti-reflection  benefits far outweigh any teeny tiny loss of luster that could possibly be perceived by the  most analytical of TV nerds and even then probably only in a side-by-side comparison in other words I  think a bunch of noise is being made around this new TV for no good reason and that's going to get  me some nasty comments down below I'm okay with that I've seen this TV up close and personable  and the undeniable fact is that most folks are going to love the S95D whether they can afford  it or not it's brighter than the S95C that it replaces and it can absolutely be called a bright  room TV meaning you can place it in a living room with lots of Windows and not feel like you have  to draw the curtains every time you watch TV if you've got skylights no worries this TV is going  to look great with light pouring into the room from above but if you like the idea of getting a  cue OLED and you want a glossy reflective screen because you only watch in the dark anyway that  S95C is still available and at a lower price to boot so knock yourself out you've got options now  so seize that option while it's still available because eventually last year's TV models are going  to be gone stepping down the line is the S90D and This TV has also become a source of frustration  because it was always thought that the S90D was supposed to be a step down less expensive version  of the S95D that I just talked about you give up Samsung's one connect box which some folks  won't see as a loss at all and the design is slightly different the audio is perhaps not  as advanced it isn't as blazingly right as the S95D but otherwise the S90D offers 90% of the  S95D's goodness at a lower price and all of that is true for the S90D but only for two screen sizes  for now so let's start with that little bit of information the S90D with the QD OLED panel is  presently available in a 55 and 65 in screen size only and that's it it could be that there will be  a 77in model of this TV that also has the Cutie OLED panel but Samsung has not confirmed the 77  in is coming yet I personally think it will but that is not a promise see at one point online  retailer Crutchfield had the 77in S90D up on its site for pre-order indicating that the 77in model  is planned to come out later this year but when I called that to Samsung's attention they promptly  told field to take that web page down yes you can blame me for The Disappearance of that page but  here it is as I screen recorded it a couple of weeks ago now that page wasn't made by accident  it was likely made because Crutchfield gets an info feed from Samsung and Crutchfield uses that  info feed to populate product pages that's why I think we can expect a 77 in or at least that  Samsung currently plans to issue a 77 in S90D but Samsung could change its mind about that so  again no promises that's one reason the S90D is a complicated model the other reason is that the  S90D models in screen sizes other than 55 and 65 so that would be 42 48 and 83 those screen sizes  do not have a QD OLED panel that's because Samsung display only makes TV sized QD OLED panels in 55  and 65 and 77 in sizes so Sam buys LG displays W OLED panels and uses them in the 42 48 and 83 in  S90D now there's nothing Samsung Electronics can do about this until Samsung display makes QD OLED  panels with their yummy High color brightness and saturation in other sizes other than that  is perhaps just not making the s90D in a wide range of sizes but why would Samsung do that  why wouldn't Samsung want to compete with LG and Sony with its own flavor of OLED TV in those sizes  it might be simpler for us but Samsung wants to compete and make that money so the Samsung S90D  is a confusing TV series but only if you choose to follow the rabbit hole down far enough which  is kind of what we just did here I think a lot of folks will just see a price they like on a  Samsung OLED TV in a size that they want and pull the trigger well Samsung is not saying so it's  all conjecture as far as I'm concerned but there are rumors that Samsung is saving a QN95D which  might have that ads pro panel that folks like which would also have a one connect box possibly  which might have more mini LED backlights more dimming zones dangerously close to the 8K Neo CED  TVs really which might be the reason that Samsung doesn't want to bring that TV uh into the US they  want to sell more of those 8K TVs we might see the QN95D in Europe like we did last year but maybe  unlike last year it doesn't end up Landing in the US due to popular demand I mean the QN95D makes  sense in Europe and the UK where it's harder to sell 8K TVs due to power efficiency laws 8K TVs by  the way necessarily require more power to achieve the same brightness as an equivalent for KTV but  who knows we might see that QN95D here in in the US after all as for an s89 D I have no idea I  think it was a confusing model for folks last year but I also think a lot of them got sold because it  was one of the best deals in premium TV so we'll have to see the important thing here is to note  that Samsung is not saying anything so there is a guarantee of nothing and that's the rundown did  you find the video helpful please let me know in the comments and not just because YouTube likes  to see lots of comments on videos I really need to know because if you did find this helpful I'll  do more like this for other brands while you're down there commenting don't forget to like and  subscribe I'll see you on the next one and until then here's two other videos I think you might like2024 is the year of the D for Samsung you can cut that out\n"