The Trending Topic of the 2080: A Conversation with [Name]

One of the more trending topics in the past week or so is the NVIDIA 2080, and it's clear that people have been eager to discuss its release. However, some individuals have expressed frustration with those who seem to be "shilling" for the card, which has led to a heated debate about the value of pre-ordering versus waiting for benchmarks.

For [Name], the decision to wait for benchmarks rather than pre-ordering is a no-brainer. "Why would you want to spend money on something that might not be worth it yet?" they ask. "I'd rather wait and see what's actually inside the box before I make a purchase." This approach seems like a rational one, especially considering the limited availability of information about the 2080's performance.

However, [Name] also acknowledges that some people are genuinely excited about the potential of ray tracing technology, which is a key feature of the 2080. "I think it's really cool," they say. "There's validity to wanting to go in this direction, especially since nobody has been able to make significant improvements in performance without process shrinks." This sentiment is shared by many fans of NVIDIA and its products.

Despite the enthusiasm for the 2080, [Name] remains cautious about its potential impact on the market. "I think it's a double-edged sword," they say. "On one hand, it's great that NVIDIA is pushing the boundaries of what's possible with graphics cards. On the other hand, I worry that it could lead to stagnation in innovation if nobody feels pressure to improve performance." This concern is shared by many industry experts and enthusiasts.

One of the key challenges facing NVIDIA in its pursuit of ray tracing technology is the issue of process shrinkage. As [Name] points out, "we're still on 14nm or 16nm, which means that there's limited room for improvement without a new architecture." This limitation could be a major bottleneck to further innovation in graphics cards.

The marketing push behind the 2080 has also been a subject of discussion among enthusiasts. While some argue that it's essential for NVIDIA to generate buzz around its new products, others see it as a case of "more is more" when it comes to advertising. "[Name] thinks that there's too much emphasis on the 'x' in RTX," they say. "It's like they're trying to convince people that this is some kind of revolutionary technology just because it has a cool name."

Ultimately, [Name]'s approach to the 2080 reflects their desire for practicality and caution. While they recognize the potential benefits of ray tracing technology, they also want to wait and see how NVIDIA will execute on its promises before making a purchase.

The End of the Chicken and Egg Problem

One of the biggest challenges facing NVIDIA in its pursuit of ray tracing technology is the chicken-and-egg problem: "you need hardware to test performance, but you can't have hardware without someone testing performance." [Name] acknowledges that this is a complex issue. "It's like trying to solve a puzzle with missing pieces," they say.

To overcome this hurdle, NVIDIA has been working on developing new tools and technologies that will allow developers to optimize their games for ray tracing. "[Name] thinks it's essential for NVIDIA to keep pushing the boundaries of what's possible with graphics cards," they say. "If they can make significant improvements in performance without process shrinks, then everyone wins."

However, [Name] is also aware that this effort will require significant investment and time. "It's not something you can rush through," they say. "You need to take the time to test, refine, and optimize your performance." This approach reflects their desire for a more measured and incremental approach to innovation.

The Importance of Competition

Despite the challenges facing NVIDIA in its pursuit of ray tracing technology, [Name] believes that competition is essential for driving innovation in the industry. "If nobody feels pressure to improve performance, then we'll just get stuck in a rut," they say.

In this context, AMD's recent announcements about its own ray tracing capabilities are seen as an important development by [Name]. "[Name] thinks it's great that AMD is pushing back against NVIDIA," they say. "It forces both companies to innovate and improve their products." This sentiment reflects the desire for a healthy and competitive market where consumers benefit from having multiple options.

The Impact on CPU Performance

One of the key areas where NVIDIA has been able to excel in recent years is in CPU performance, thanks in part to its Threadripper and Core i9 lines. [Name] acknowledges that this success has created a sense of complacency among some enthusiasts, who may feel that there's no need to upgrade their CPUs anytime soon.

However, [Name] disagrees with this assessment. "The fact that you can get more cores at lower price points is not something to be taken for granted," they say. "It's like the industry is stuck in a state of suspended animation, waiting for someone to come along and shake things up."

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supports yet right ultimately the problem is we need we need competition for graphics cards right ambi needs to get its button into action because it's been awesome on CPU side with rise in a thread Ripper and core I 9 and core i7 we're in a I mean you could get cores now that you could never get five years ago for the price you're paying for if we see that in GPUs everybody will be happy nobody will compete complaining about twenty eighty at whatever price everybody will just be happy the competition is a huge concern too because as nvidia takes more control of the market they're getting into a position where they have more control over partners and media and everyone else in the chain so like i mean ideally they just keep making good video cards and leave it at that but definitely there is a president that without competition I look at Intel for like ten years before they had rise in the face it kind of stagnates so yeah that's that's actually a big concern of mine is what happens if and these stops making video cards that can compete yeah I have a yeah I would imagine that what happened but yeah that is what was a concern I think they're gonna continue to push in you know twenty eighty could be amazing it could be a complete disaster because they could take a right turn named he makes a left turn and everybody wants to go left turn with AMD this time so we don't know soobviously one of the more trending topics in the past week or so the 2080 what are your guys fuss at at the same time you know people have been angry at me because they feel like I'm you know I'm the shill for in video but I think people 1 never pre-order because why would you but wait for the benchmarks at the same time would I run out and go buy a 1080 TI or a 1080 right now I want to wait and see what what's gonna be on the other side and I do respect that what they're trying to do with this card may not go over well but they are at least trying to go for something else besides just more frame rates at a higher resolution which most people don't really need me at this point so I respect that and I think people need to just pump the pump on the heat brakes a little bit so now I feel like whatever reason there exists to during the keynote we we haven't seen any kind of performance benchmarks or different numbers whatever reason it is it's not a positive reason so we have to wait unless we just buy it once all your life to have ray-tracing man yeah for me it's I'm not as smart as most of my co-workers so for me it's just the itch I'm just like I don't I don't know why I just when I see something new and shiny I just want it and I think that's kind of a problem but at the same time to each their own you know do you guys think that's a thing among the the PC community is like when there's a new hardware announce everybody is like oh I need to get it it's a humanity yes you everyone wants the newest biggest and on the twenty eighty though I think a lot of the ray-tracing stuff it is really cool there is validity to wanting to go that direction definitely anybody is doing a good job of trying to go that direction they're also doing a good job of trying to go that direction when there's not a process shrink and they can't get them improvement in performance elsewhere so like there is a marketing play but hopefully there's some action we'll gain from it for the industry because like chicken or the egg problem no one can do rate racing if they don't have hardware to do rage racing on the right valper side but also on the consumer side games don't really have it yet other than the few they listed or any of the other features they had so it's a problem there but the end of the day and video can't get more gains easily until we get down to seven nanometer cuz they're on fourteen or sixteen now depend on which card so that's a limitation and price is a limitation because g2g are six is twenty percent more than gddr5 so definitely there's a lot of marketing going into the RT x announcement which is not abnormal for any product announcement but I mean keep it in mind I guess because it's not it's if you buy it it's not like the games that you play today will look amazing and way better than they ever have unless you consummately old graphics card because they frankly just they don't have the features that it supports yet right ultimately the problem is we need we need competition for graphics cards right ambi needs to get its button into action because it's been awesome on CPU side with rise in a thread Ripper and core I 9 and core i7 we're in a I mean you could get cores now that you could never get five years ago for the price you're paying for if we see that in GPUs everybody will be happy nobody will compete complaining about twenty eighty at whatever price everybody will just be happy the competition is a huge concern too because as nvidia takes more control of the market they're getting into a position where they have more control over partners and media and everyone else in the chain so like i mean ideally they just keep making good video cards and leave it at that but definitely there is a president that without competition I look at Intel for like ten years before they had rise in the face it kind of stagnates so yeah that's that's actually a big concern of mine is what happens if and these stops making video cards that can compete yeah I have a yeah I would imagine that what happened but yeah that is what was a concern I think they're gonna continue to push in you know twenty eighty could be amazing it could be a complete disaster because they could take a right turn named he makes a left turn and everybody wants to go left turn with AMD this time so we don't know so\n"