The world of tech lawsuits and executive moves is always fascinating to watch. Recently, there was another lawsuit against Google for an advertisement that was done for their Nexus smartphones, which unfortunately ended up being dropped before a ruling could take place. This brings to mind another case against a similar company, however, both of those cases were also dropped in favor of settlement.

In the tech world, it's not uncommon for these kinds of lawsuits to arise over advertisements or marketing strategies that are perceived as misleading or deceptive. However, in this particular case, Google has chosen to settle out of court and avoid the negative publicity associated with a lengthy lawsuit. Whether or not other companies will follow suit remains to be seen, but one thing is certain: the tech industry is always on high alert when it comes to potential disputes over advertising and marketing.

On a separate note, Apple's CEO Tim Cook has made headlines recently for his planned sales of company stock. According to reports, Cook cashed in Apple shares worth $3.6 million just a few days ago, and then followed that up with another sale in an almost identical amount. These sales were part of a pre-planned strategy from 2015, however, which means that they were not an impulsive response to any particular news or event.

Despite these recent developments, it's worth noting that Cook's sales did come at the expense of his company's performance bonus. Apple fell short of its net sales goal in the previous quarter, which resulted in a missed performance bonus for the entire executive team. However, this was not related to Cook's personal sales strategy and does not reflect on his leadership or decision-making abilities.

In other news, Tim Cook is scheduled to receive another batch of 700,000 vested restricted stock units as part of his payment plan from 2011. This will come about in 2021, assuming that Cook remains at the helm of Apple at that time. While this development may seem like a significant windfall for Cook, it's worth noting that these restricted stock units are subject to certain performance goals and vesting schedules.

Unfortunately, this means that there is always the possibility that Cook could miss out on additional earnings or bonuses in the future. However, as of now, it seems that he will still receive a substantial payout when his next batch of restricted stock units vests. This development should not be taken as any indication that Apple is struggling or that Cook's leadership is under threat.

In fact, despite these recent sales and the missed performance bonus, Apple's stock prices have been steadily increasing over the past year or so. The company has managed to stay on track with its latest products and services, including the highly-anticipated iPhone, which has received positive reviews from critics and consumers alike. While there may be some fluctuations in the market, it seems that Apple is generally doing well.

It's also worth noting that Cook's sales of restricted stock units are not unique to him. Many executives at large tech companies like Apple receive similar payments as part of their compensation packages. However, the fact that Cook chose to sell a significant amount of his shares in one go does raise some eyebrows and spark curiosity among investors and analysts.

One possible explanation for Cook's sales strategy is tax planning. As a highly-paid executive, Cook likely has access to significant financial resources and tax professionals who can help him navigate complex tax laws and regulations. By selling his shares in advance, he may be able to minimize his tax liability and avoid any potential penalties or fines that could arise from selling shares that have not yet vested.

Whatever the reason behind Cook's sales strategy, it's clear that he has a significant amount of wealth at his disposal. As of now, he is left with approximately $117.5 million in Apple stock, which is a substantial sum of money. However, this is not an unusual circumstance for tech executives who receive large amounts of restricted stock units as part of their compensation packages.

In conclusion, the recent news about Tim Cook's sales of Apple shares is just one piece of a larger puzzle that makes up the complex world of tech companies and executive compensation. While it may seem like a significant development at first glance, it's actually just another example of how these kinds of payments work in the industry. As always, we'll be keeping a close eye on developments at Apple and other major tech companies to bring you the latest news and insights.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enyou're listening to the Apple Insider podcast welcome to episode 105 of the Apple Insider podcast I'm your host Victor marks and joining me is Mikey Campbell hey Mikey what's up we are going to talk all about Apple iPod iPad mac and more and starting off I want to talk about what could happen with Touch ID Touch ID is a favorite feature of all of the current iPhones uh it's been on an iPhone since iPhone 5s and it's it's it's going to change I mean it changed most recently on the iPhone 7 where instead of being a physical button it's now just a part of the glass with a haptic engine behind it but we we've got a we've got a a piece of news piece of of of information that says that it's going to change even more Mikey what's that about so everyone's favorite list Ming quo is yes he's saying uh Apple's going to maybe not this next generation of iPhone but some future generation they're going to try to move away from Touch ID and go for a more hands-off solution so probably facial recognition or Iris recognition so users don't even need to interact with a device at all to unlock it but still have that same security well now wait so you're saying it's going to be two-step facial and fingerprint well for first I mean okay so that that's the the plan is to go full facial recognition but in between that he's he's saying that there's going to have to be some sort of hybrid uh before they get there because the facial Tech is not um it's not fully flushed out yet so so in between there there's going to be some sort of uh two- factor or uh actually maybe not two- Factor but um yeah well I don't know could be two- Factor method of uh securing your phone so you're going to have to input the fingerprint and or your face I would assume it would be one or the other um but uh the way he's saying is that you you can't really rely on the facial uh recognition Tech right now um especially because Apple doesn't have any of those assets in place it would take it would take a long time to build up the database and the uh you know machine learning algorithms and the uh computer vision stuff so that none of that is in place right now so they're going to have to build that out first and while they're doing that they're going to you know maybe make a switch right so there there are a lot of uh barriers to this right one of them is um you know software design that has to be changed for it uh the hardware component development that has to exist for it the the creation of the database and backend as you said and and also to have all that running in device requires a lot of computing power yeah I would assume uh the facial recognition just to make it work would have to be offloaded um well it's interesting because there have been other phones that have had facial recognition in them that haven't really worked very well but they they've had it there have also been other laptops uh Lenovo did this a few years ago where they used the webcam to try and unlock your Windows computer yeah well the thing with those uh I mean you can do it on a device obviously right I mean it's there's software available that you can recognize someone's face but to what degree I mean to use it as a security feature it will have to be you know very accurate so it'll have to depend on a database that's pretty vast so I would assume that would be offloaded to an off-site server but I mean who knows well you know that Apple would probably prefer to keep it in just because in as opposed to offloading it because privacy yeah well I mean still they do the same thing with Siri right I mean they offload pretty much everything um that goes through Siri to an offsite server and there's some you know potential for personal information to get out yeah now why why wouldn't they just use I scanning um well quo believes that they're leaning towards facial because they have a lot of uh patents for facial recognition stuff we've covered a lot of them and we've also covered the Irish stuff but uh it seems like the facial is a way to go um plus they made all those purchases right a facial uh I mean they they bought face shift um that small was it I think it was a German company right who uh specialized in um not facial recognition just pure vanilla facial recognition but uh facial recognition and um face scanning technology for the uh for the uh Movie Market okay so the the iPhone 8 that this potentially could be in is a a stainless steel glass sandwich with wireless charging uh Next Generation 3D touch Tech and potentially facial scanning I would say not this round maybe not even next year either um so some future iteration but what could make it into this year's iPhone is a is a optical Touch ID which which isn't really touch ID at all although they would probably name it touch ID um but instead of you know the capacitive uh scanning module that they have in there now which requires the stainless steel ring to send you know a small current through your finger it would the they'll go just to a pure Optical solution that takes a scan of your of your fingerprint and he's saying that you know that would solve the problem of having a full face iPhone uh which Ed Edge screen right yeah so instead you know because right now what what they would have to do is have EDG Edge screen and they'd have a huge hole in it at the bottom or wherever they want to put it to fit in touch ID or move it to the back of the device but I don't think Apple would do that so um what he's saying is that they're uh looking to do Optical which can be placed underneath the OLED screen so it would be invisible to the user but it would still be there um but the problem for that is of course the problem um the OLED manufacturers are going to have to custom make uh or custom manufacture their their panels to accommodate this technology either by uh making the pixel width you know or pixel pitch near the uh sensor a bit wider to um accommodate the optical module or by integrating it completely into the uh laminated panel so we'll see where that goes that that could end up on the next or on this year's iPhone the uh special edition one as I like to call it ah we wait but we already have a special edition one that's the small one uh is super special super special okay talking about other things that are special uh do you use night shift mode on your iPhone yep have it set up every night and what do you do for your computer um nothing I I did use uh what was that third party app I'm using it now it's called flux yeah flux I used to use that I mean I don't I try to stay away from my computer at night time I I never do but uh um but it's not like I use my computer in bed so it's uh not really a problem for me well you're you're kind of a desktop guy right you don't use a laptop really no I use a laptop yeah you do so so you just avoid bringing your laptop to bed yeah yeah that's very smart of you um I'm I instead use the uh flux third party although it looks like I won't need to because in Mac OS Sierra the 10.2.4 beta it appears that there's a new night shift mode which does just what flux does what night shift does on the iOS which is they they reduce the amount of blue light in the uh the screen as it's displayed because blue light is one of those things that fools your body into staying awake messes with your circadian rhythm bruh messes with your circadian rhythm actually messes also with your eyes for for extended view periods you know if you ever look at the uh the the glasses that are Amber lenses for gaming yeah the gunar yeah the gunar glasses they they filter out the blue light as well so a lot of some screen makers are making um I think my I just bought a a monitor from uh what is this this is a this a Asus it has a low blue light mode so I mean they they're doing that too the monitor Market doesn't really work that well but whatever well so would you use this mode on your max um probably not because I need um I mean if I'm working I need it to be I need the color reproduction to be what other people are seeing at all times yeah so probably not but I mean if I if I if my job was not to publish pictures and other such media to the uh to the masses then I would probably use it you okay I I would definitely use it um you know if you're listening out there and you use your computer at night or in bed let us know and let us know if you use night shift on iOS because I'm curious to see what the the uptake or what the need is for this on the laptop I know that I need it because I'm up all hours doing stuff and I have flux change it for me at night but uh I'm curious to know how many others of there are out there do you do you see a difference or can you notice do you feel a difference in your body cuz I don't know theur out right there's there's a couple of problems one of them is you're already staying up late and anytime you're staying up late late you're essentially uh creating a sleep deficit and you're you're proving you know above all that that you're able to stay awake as opposed to being productive your productivity drops off but you're proving you can still stay up um but I I do find that once I do close the laptop after having had it open I'm able to fall asleep more quickly than if I'd had it uh with with its regular blue light displaying at me interesting is that scientific no that's that's anecdotal but it's my experience interesting you think it's a placebo effect uh you know I don't know but I I do know that I had this laptop reinstalled without it without flux on it and was using it that way for a few months and I it took me regularly anywhere from 30 to 40 minutes to fall asleep and uh closing it with with flux running and having been running I'm I'm closer to 10 or 20 so there is a difference interesting I cool cool might have to try it out I don't know yeah talking about features in betas uh tell me about iOS 10.3 is beta oh the uh find my airpods a yeah well first of all do you have airpods yeah yeah okay are you worried about losing them um not as much as I am worried about my cat eating it so I'm less wor about losing it then it going inside an animal's stomach would not be good yeah I mean when I whenever I take it out of my ear I just put it right back in the case it it's that's your method for preventing it from getting lost re I don't know it's it's not something that I do consciously it's just I feel like I don't know that's just where they belong but I mean I can see people just taking it out and tossing it on the table or whatever I was talking just to a guy about losing stuff and he said that he um he always lost his pens writing utensils he always lost his pens until he bought a nice pen and once he had a nice pen that he'd spent a lot of money on yeah he kept up with it just by virtue of of not wanting to lose it yeah yeah yeah I can see that so how does find my iPod airpods work um so every time your airpods connect or you know ping your host device like iPhone the iPhone logs that location or wherever that location is for the iPhone its own location and creates um kind of like a Bluetooth range like an estimate of how far away your earpods airpods could be and plots that on the uh find my iPhone map so you know the uh find my iPhone this feature is actually in find my iPhone right it's integrated into the same app that we've had for quite a while yeah so just like Apple watch got integrated into that now it's there's an airpod uh feature in there so you go into the app uh if if hopefully you've linked it to a to a device that has iCloud and if you did then you'll see a little a little line for airpods and you can tap on that to see the last known location unless you're using it then it'll just show up as wherever your iPhone is or whatever right now if you lose them can you play a sound on them you can um there's an option to so if you if you select play sound um at that point you you'll probably not be connected to it right so uh it'll play a sound whenever you connect to it next so let's say you lost your like left ear pod out when you're running somewhere um you can walk to that area where they where it was plotted on the map and then um it should hopefully connect back up to your iPhone and then it'll play a sound it's not very loud so I mean if if you're doing indoors it's much it's much better uh but if you lose it when you're running or something I would suggest only playing the sound at night time or whenever it's quiet low traffic hours or something yeah because it also diminishes the battery right right well because it's got to be connected to receive the signal to play and it's got to be running full volume so it uses battery to do that it's actually a rising and falling tone so it's kind of it's it's a bit better than just playing like a solid tone it's a bit more apparent but um still it's it's prettyy quiet so the other problem is is the range on them is quite good right yeah so as I mentioned in the uh we did like a short handson kind of thing um depending on the W1 chip it could be like you could be searching area that's like couple hundred square feet so tough to uh easy to connect but tough to find if you are looking in a bunch of bunch of like bunch of stuff inside or maybe even like Outdoors on a road or in a forest I don't know wherever you run yeah I'm I'm just thinking what's your advice besides using the which is probably a good idea do you think that you're going to put the uh the next strap that keeps the two airpods tied together on yours no because if I wanted to do that I'd buy the Beats headphones yeah yeah I bought it because it's uh completely untethered so I can use one at a time if I want to all right and not have uh you know not have the other one dangling yeah but so I'll take the chance if I take the chance if I lose one I'll have to pay the $60 to replace it yeah but you're not going to lose them because a you put them right back in your case and and be you know you take care of these things yeah well part of the part of the putting it back in the case is the case is charges it so I mean it's it's kind of intuitive to do that um so I don't know I think most people put it back in the case unless they you know take it out for running and leave the case at home just come home and plop it down somewhere yeah I don't know pretty cool well I want to take a moment and talk about Casper mattresses uh Neil has this mattress and and I've thought about getting one it's a it's an obsessively engineered mattress they they even show them at CES the electronics show for crying out loud at a really fair price it's it's a supportive memory foam that creates an award-winning sleep surface with just the right amount of sink and the right amount of Bounce and Time Magazine thought it was one of the best inventions of 2015 and you can try C ER for 100 nights risk-free in your own home and if you don't love it they'll pick it 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you could scan for things like your your glucose levels without having to to to uh Lance yourself what what's what's the theory behind this article that we wrote The Theory yeah what's the theory is that Apple's going to include this in a future Apple watch okay so why do we think that could happen well uh Apple wants Apple watch to be much more than it is it they want it to be the health device they don't want it to be the fitness device that it is now and that they're pushing so hard for now wait wait I I got to ask because the first time they released Apple watch it was very much about health you agree yeah yeah and and with this release of Watch 2 it's been all refocused around physical fitness and athleticism right am I still right yep yeah so you're saying that with this refocus that's not their eventual path that's not what they really want I think they really want it to be a health device I mean there was the report that came out uh when was a few months ago talking about how the watch was not born of its own it it was born because of Apple's shift and focus to health uh Solutions like Health k it was born from that effort so it was kind of ancillary um invention that they made so they can you know push forward their health initiative so having a fitness tracker I mean that's fine but I you know for a holistic uh Health tracking is much more than a pedometer and stuff like that you know and um car kit apps you want something that is monitoring your body and biometric signals at all times when you know a watch is good for that but the technology is just not there plus the fact that they have to go through um a whole bunch of regulatory uh hurdles especially in the US to getting a health device out there so um first step you got the device out there to how hundreds of thousands or millions of consumers depending on what stats you're looking at Next Step you know creating a or turning that device into a full-fledged health tracker and not just a fitness tracker um and this chip while I don't think they'll include the specific piece of Hardware they'll probably do something you know something that they created like you know like they created their own uh pulsometer or pulse oximeter um uh no they don't have pulse oxin in the Apple watch uh they have they have heart rate but they don't have pulseox what do they call it it's not a pulseox what do they call it they're not measuring your oxygen levels by Shining Light Through Your Skin they're measuring the heart rate and and it is that special technology with the green LEDs but it's not okay so spectroscopy is the the science of analyzing wavelengths absorbed and emitted by materials so you can kind of understand their chemical composition based on what the wavelength looks like what's what's reflected what's absorbed and this particular chip that we've been talking about is an 18x18 mm chip which sounds pretty small but is in fact pretty substantial when you look at the size of the Apple watch mhm you know the Apple watch is 38 mm and this thing is is um takes up quite a bit of that let's say it would replace the it would it would completely replace the heart rate monitor on the bottom it would have to or be fully integrated into like perhaps behind it I don't know yeah but the way the uh heart rate sensor is it already has the uh the four or the two LED emitters and two receivers I don't know well and this particular chip costs $100 it seems so it's it's probably also impractical to integrate into um current devices at that price but as you say it it looks like there's going to be more sensors coming and uh MH do do you think they'll we'll see that anytime soon do you think we'll see that in something like a third generation watch probably not from what I hear the third gen is just going to be thinner and faster processor better battery life maybe not better battery life but uh but thinner all right maybe maybe a couple gen couple years couple couple years okay we'll see so let's let's talk a little bit about Qualcomm uh Apple started a relationship with Qualcomm as far back as the iPhone 4 when they made the first iPhone that worked on CDMA networks mhm and they went to Qualcomm at that time because Qualcomm owns all the patents on CDMA cell modems right so it made good sense for that now Qualcomm and apple are are embroiled in a deep lawsuit in a big big lawsuit multiple multiple what tell tell me about these multiple lawsuits what's what's going on here uh well Apple's saying that the Qualcomm is extorting its customers by uh a whole slew of kind of sh business practices like they won't sell you components unless you license the uh the supposedly standard essential patents first and they're not charging uh Fran rates for the patents that they do license um and they have like they they have secret deals with uh secondary manufacturers who which Apple buys the actual chips from so what basically Apple basically qualcomm's business model is they'll license the IP to uh contract manufacturers small smaller companies then Apple buys the chips from them as well as licens licensing the uh scps at the same time uh they'll be paying for those so that's paying twice for the same license basically yeah but the problem is Apple can't Apple's not seeing um what patents or how much these uh contract manufacturers are paying Qualcomm so because the Agreements are secret and Qualcomm will not license those patents directly to Apple so basically Qualcomm is charging exorbitant rates supposedly according to Apple to these CMS and then the CMS are passing those fees along to Apple because Qualcomm knows Apple can pay it so they won't deal with them directly and a bunch of other things now what's so so apple is asserting that it's it's price gouging and extortion and more because Qualcomm is the only one that can provide the uh this IP right right and and qualcom is they're alleging this double dipping yeah and Qualcomm is saying that this is not a regulatory issue because Apple's bringing Fran rates which is a regulatory issue so that's that that stands for fair reasonable and non-discriminatory yes right that's that's basically saying that when you license a patent you're not paying an exorbitant rate for it or well more specifically standard essential or stand patents that are deemed standard essential so okay those are the patents that are that um you know cover things like like Wireless frequencies and stuff yeah yeah so the stuff that Qualcomm owns or developed so they should be licensing that at FR rates but they are supposedly not yeah and Apple is is saying this and and qualcomm's coming back and saying basically Apple just wants to pay less right and they're making a regulatory issue out of a you know an issue that should stay between businesses and they're also alleging that apple is feeding uh information to a bunch of regulatory agencies around the world including the US and China and South Korea um where the the latter of which Qualcomm just got slapped with a pretty hefty I think r54 million fine for unfair business practices related to their uh licensing agreement the the Korean Fair Trade Commission leveled an 854 million4 yeah yeah so but but so where where do this 1 billion in unpaid license rebates come in because that Apple says that's what's triggering the the suit here okay so so to make up for not make up for so Qualcomm charges you for exclusive to certain scps and then they will pay you back or pay Apple back in this case and they withheld that uh rebate because supposedly Apple says the Apple cooperated with the um the kftc so I mean the this sounds like a bad High School spat yeah well I mean I don't know I me it's in Apple's best interest obviously to get um the best rates on well first of all it's in their best interest to get the best rates and second of all what are you going to not cooperate with the Korean Free Trade Commission yeah well be beyond that the they mean the uh the uh contracts that they have with apple uh with Qualcomm specify that they obviously can talk to trade bodies and Regulatory Agencies um it's specifically noted in there so uh it's kind of weird it's kind of weird thing I think I don't know I I feel like I mean qualcomm's license IP practices have been kind of sketchy in the past and the FTC is already investigating or they did investigate and have it has its own lawsuit against uh Qualcomm that was I think revealed two weeks ago so Qualcomm has been their practices have been questioned many times in the past so Apple's just kind of piling on to that yeah does this have any anything to do with apple using Intel modems instead of Qualcomm modems in the iPhone um well since Qualcomm hasn't really well I mean it could it could they didn't really they didn't specify that in the uh in the suit they didn't say that you know they're with withholding these that this one nearly $1 billion dollar in rebates because we're D diversifying our supply chain but um ironically it could blow up in their face and apple you know could diversify even f further and negotiate better rates at the same time from Qualcomm so Qualcomm could be the big loser here we don't know and that's probably why they took up like I don't know almost half of their earnings call yesterday talking about the uh various lawsuits that are floating around now well that's that's not the only one right yeah there's uh two in China basically asserting the same thing MH so um I don't know we'll see seems like apple has upper hand but Qualcomm is saying that they'll file a counter suit of course and in the meantime they'll still honor their agreements with the uh contract manufacturers so Apple can have their CDMA modems well it's it's kind of a good thing for Qualcomm to do that because if if they uh you know I don't know the terms but if they're licensed base on uh every device sold that's equipped with it then they want to keep those devices going so that the amount keeps increasing right well qualcomm's contracts are technically with the contract manufacturers and then Apple buys the components from those manufacturers so they're really upholding their end of the bargain with the CMS but of course they make lots of money from that because Apple buys the primium they buy a lot don't they yeah they they buy quite a bit just a few yeah so Apple's also being sued along with an ad agency that they used over a voice sample used in an iPhone 6 TV commercial MH um there was a commercial for the iPhone 6 which is of course now a 2-year-old phone um that had a sample of a 70s group called The Persuasions that was used inside a song by jxx that was uh and I sure hope I'm pronouncing that right because I'm not that much of a fan not a fan I I AP you know he's a fine artist he's a Grammy nominated uh artist for the album in colors but I am not a listener uh but at any rate the track takes samples from the persuasion song Good Times which was used in the Apple commercial and I would have thought just on the face of this right it's it's 2017 laws around music licensing and sampling were pretty well figured out by now you would think wrong sir well no I would actually I would be correct because the detail is that this suit is not about sampling this suit is about a California right called the right to publicity where Californian law says that uh if if your voice or your signature or photograph or likeness is used knowingly M to sell something without that person's prior consent then then that that person who used that Voice or signature is liable for damages sustained interesting and sounds highly subjective but well obviously the lawyers get to work that out with the with the judge but basically someone can't take your face or your music and go and use it without your consent uh where when you're licensing music you can you just pay the Harry Fox agency and pay you know pay the licensing fees um you don't have to get consent here you do and uh and so that's what the claim is about at least in part the other part of the complaint is that um it that that a lot there was a violation of collective bargaining agreements with Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television radio artists which allows separate bargaining with singers over commercial licensing I wonder how they would basically saying he didn't get paid enough first of all he didn't get paid enough because they used his voice without permission and second of all he didn't get paid enough under the uh the The Screen Actors Guild and and radio artists I wonder how they would negotiate the fees for just a California since it's a California uh policy just where it aired in California I mean they the way they'd have to do it is they'd have to look at the music and identify who was on the sample and then contact that person and agree to pay them ahead time as opposed to just producing it and going with it and paying the licensing through like I said one of the agencies but how much I wonder well Lawson's complaining that he's injured by more than $10 million oh wow because his here my voice was 10 million yeah my voice is also not worth $10 million yet but what he's saying is that um fans of The Persuasions might recognize his voice within this sample of the jam XX song and conclude that The Persuasions and and the singer are endorsing Apple when that clearly isn't true you know why I bought my iPhone why did you buy your iPhone because a uh a group from the 70s endorsed it there you go they were good right they were so good that when I saw them endorse the iPhone I said hey I need to have that device well absolutely um and this is not the first time this kind of lawsuit has come up uh there was another one last year against Google for an advertisement that was done for their Nexus smartphones and there was one against scripts for Home and Garden television but both of those cases were dropped before a ruling could take place and so the question is will this one be dropped or will this one make it to a ruling and no I doubt it I mean I probably settle out of court for more than 10 million in Damages not more than that I'm sure no so in other news apples Tim Cook has has managed to cash in uh another chunk of company stock mhm now he's he's done this a couple of times in the past couple of weeks so this is the second time uh just a few days ago he cashed in Apple shares worth 3.6 million yeah and then he sold another batch in an almost identical amount well it's important to note that these were planned sales from yeah 2015 so it's not like he's saying my God the ship is going down I need to surprise I need to bail need to bail everything sell it all yeah so these were uh plan sales um according to his whatever his selloff plan whatever his uh obligations were so um this was decided two years ago almost so I mean yeah it's a selloff and he did he did get docked the uh not really docked but he did get uh he missed out on the performance bonus for and how big was that bonus Mikey um I don't know how big was it 1 billion million dollar yeah not not a lot so so he missed out on 1.5 million because Apple had slower iPhone sales and and managed only a net sales of uh 25.6 billion yeah which was short of the goals so sad yeah uh yeah so the the well the entire executive team got missed out on that so all the svps um but I this is not in response to that MH so you shouldn't read too much into it right and and despite that those those results uh Tim Cook is scheduled to receive another batch of 700,000 vested restricted stock units right as per his payment uh plan from 2011 or whatever yeah and that's that's going to come about in uh 2021 right so if if Tim Cook is still in charge of Apple in 2021 and we're all still here on planet Earth in 2021 he'll receive that batch at that time yep and he has a chance to make even more money with performance uh performance goals which seem to be back on track for the uh holiday quarter at least yeah so this this should not Inspire any crazy rumors right this shouldn't say that Johnny IV is retiring because obviously this was planned um this this shouldn't tell us that there's going to be a red MacBook and it's going to be apocalyptically bad um this should tell us that the Mac coming back is a cube you like that one um this isn't an indicator that apple is doomed right no it's just business as usual the uh I mean it's so then why why did it happen just a few days before earnings um just it's just coincidence that it happened it it's uh they do it so people don't create rumors um or you know but in app's case it's not doesn't really work out that way um so they usually do these planed sales because they don't want to stoke investor fears but uh as you say this has been planned for a long enough period of time it could just be tax planning right yeah yeah for I mean a lot of it sometimes it is usually well not usually sometimes it is because um you know they get paid so much in uh restricted stock units that fast they have to pay taxes on that and they have to sell a certain amount of shares blah blah blah um that are withheld from them but those are usually uh those us usually vest at the same time when they when the uh rsu's vest so this is a slightly different okay so following this news Tim Cook is left with 9798 n shares of Apple stock worth uh more or less about 117.5 million that's pretty good pretty good it's a nice Pocket Change yeah it's going to his uh his a nephew right some of it at least I don't know I believe he did he said that one point okay well good for good for him and good for his nephew if that's the case uh Mikey this this is another wonderful episode of the Apple Insider podcast and it's blown past us where can people find you on the internet at appleinsider.com and at Mikey cbell 81 on twitar I'm your host Victor and I'm at V marks on Twitter and if Apple brings back a uh a cube computer we'll be sure to tell you all about it on the Apple Insider podcastyou're listening to the Apple Insider podcast welcome to episode 105 of the Apple Insider podcast I'm your host Victor marks and joining me is Mikey Campbell hey Mikey what's up we are going to talk all about Apple iPod iPad mac and more and starting off I want to talk about what could happen with Touch ID Touch ID is a favorite feature of all of the current iPhones uh it's been on an iPhone since iPhone 5s and it's it's it's going to change I mean it changed most recently on the iPhone 7 where instead of being a physical button it's now just a part of the glass with a haptic engine behind it but we we've got a we've got a a piece of news piece of of of information that says that it's going to change even more Mikey what's that about so everyone's favorite list Ming quo is yes he's saying uh Apple's going to maybe not this next generation of iPhone but some future generation they're going to try to move away from Touch ID and go for a more hands-off solution so probably facial recognition or Iris recognition so users don't even need to interact with a device at all to unlock it but still have that same security well now wait so you're saying it's going to be two-step facial and fingerprint well for first I mean okay so that that's the the plan is to go full facial recognition but in between that he's he's saying that there's going to have to be some sort of hybrid uh before they get there because the facial Tech is not um it's not fully flushed out yet so so in between there there's going to be some sort of uh two- factor or uh actually maybe not two- Factor but um yeah well I don't know could be two- Factor method of uh securing your phone so you're going to have to input the fingerprint and or your face I would assume it would be one or the other um but uh the way he's saying is that you you can't really rely on the facial uh recognition Tech right now um especially because Apple doesn't have any of those assets in place it would take it would take a long time to build up the database and the uh you know machine learning algorithms and the uh computer vision stuff so that none of that is in place right now so they're going to have to build that out first and while they're doing that they're going to you know maybe make a switch right so there there are a lot of uh barriers to this right one of them is um you know software design that has to be changed for it uh the hardware component development that has to exist for it the the creation of the database and backend as you said and and also to have all that running in device requires a lot of computing power yeah I would assume uh the facial recognition just to make it work would have to be offloaded um well it's interesting because there have been other phones that have had facial recognition in them that haven't really worked very well but they they've had it there have also been other laptops uh Lenovo did this a few years ago where they used the webcam to try and unlock your Windows computer yeah well the thing with those uh I mean you can do it on a device obviously right I mean it's there's software available that you can recognize someone's face but to what degree I mean to use it as a security feature it will have to be you know very accurate so it'll have to depend on a database that's pretty vast so I would assume that would be offloaded to an off-site server but I mean who knows well you know that Apple would probably prefer to keep it in just because in as opposed to offloading it because privacy yeah well I mean still they do the same thing with Siri right I mean they offload pretty much everything um that goes through Siri to an offsite server and there's some you know potential for personal information to get out yeah now why why wouldn't they just use I scanning um well quo believes that they're leaning towards facial because they have a lot of uh patents for facial recognition stuff we've covered a lot of them and we've also covered the Irish stuff but uh it seems like the facial is a way to go um plus they made all those purchases right a facial uh I mean they they bought face shift um that small was it I think it was a German company right who uh specialized in um not facial recognition just pure vanilla facial recognition but uh facial recognition and um face scanning technology for the uh for the uh Movie Market okay so the the iPhone 8 that this potentially could be in is a a stainless steel glass sandwich with wireless charging uh Next Generation 3D touch Tech and potentially facial scanning I would say not this round maybe not even next year either um so some future iteration but what could make it into this year's iPhone is a is a optical Touch ID which which isn't really touch ID at all although they would probably name it touch ID um but instead of you know the capacitive uh scanning module that they have in there now which requires the stainless steel ring to send you know a small current through your finger it would the they'll go just to a pure Optical solution that takes a scan of your of your fingerprint and he's saying that you know that would solve the problem of having a full face iPhone uh which Ed Edge screen right yeah so instead you know because right now what what they would have to do is have EDG Edge screen and they'd have a huge hole in it at the bottom or wherever they want to put it to fit in touch ID or move it to the back of the device but I don't think Apple would do that so um what he's saying is that they're uh looking to do Optical which can be placed underneath the OLED screen so it would be invisible to the user but it would still be there um but the problem for that is of course the problem um the OLED manufacturers are going to have to custom make uh or custom manufacture their their panels to accommodate this technology either by uh making the pixel width you know or pixel pitch near the uh sensor a bit wider to um accommodate the optical module or by integrating it completely into the uh laminated panel so we'll see where that goes that that could end up on the next or on this year's iPhone the uh special edition one as I like to call it ah we wait but we already have a special edition one that's the small one uh is super special super special okay talking about other things that are special uh do you use night shift mode on your iPhone yep have it set up every night and what do you do for your computer um nothing I I did use uh what was that third party app I'm using it now it's called flux yeah flux I used to use that I mean I don't I try to stay away from my computer at night time I I never do but uh um but it's not like I use my computer in bed so it's uh not really a problem for me well you're you're kind of a desktop guy right you don't use a laptop really no I use a laptop yeah you do so so you just avoid bringing your laptop to bed yeah yeah that's very smart of you um I'm I instead use the uh flux third party although it looks like I won't need to because in Mac OS Sierra the 10.2.4 beta it appears that there's a new night shift mode which does just what flux does what night shift does on the iOS which is they they reduce the amount of blue light in the uh the screen as it's displayed because blue light is one of those things that fools your body into staying awake messes with your circadian rhythm bruh messes with your circadian rhythm actually messes also with your eyes for for extended view periods you know if you ever look at the uh the the glasses that are Amber lenses for gaming yeah the gunar yeah the gunar glasses they they filter out the blue light as well so a lot of some screen makers are making um I think my I just bought a a monitor from uh what is this this is a this a Asus it has a low blue light mode so I mean they they're doing that too the monitor Market doesn't really work that well but whatever well so would you use this mode on your max um probably not because I need um I mean if I'm working I need it to be I need the color reproduction to be what other people are seeing at all times yeah so probably not but I mean if I if I if my job was not to publish pictures and other such media to the uh to the masses then I would probably use it you okay I I would definitely use it um you know if you're listening out there and you use your computer at night or in bed let us know and let us know if you use night shift on iOS because I'm curious to see what the the uptake or what the need is for this on the laptop I know that I need it because I'm up all hours doing stuff and I have flux change it for me at night but uh I'm curious to know how many others of there are out there do you do you see a difference or can you notice do you feel a difference in your body cuz I don't know theur out right there's there's a couple of problems one of them is you're already staying up late and anytime you're staying up late late you're essentially uh creating a sleep deficit and you're you're proving you know above all that that you're able to stay awake as opposed to being productive your productivity drops off but you're proving you can still stay up um but I I do find that once I do close the laptop after having had it open I'm able to fall asleep more quickly than if I'd had it uh with with its regular blue light displaying at me interesting is that scientific no that's that's anecdotal but it's my experience interesting you think it's a placebo effect uh you know I don't know but I I do know that I had this laptop reinstalled without it without flux on it and was using it that way for a few months and I it took me regularly anywhere from 30 to 40 minutes to fall asleep and uh closing it with with flux running and having been running I'm I'm closer to 10 or 20 so there is a difference interesting I cool cool might have to try it out I don't know yeah talking about features in betas uh tell me about iOS 10.3 is beta oh the uh find my airpods a yeah well first of all do you have airpods yeah yeah okay are you worried about losing them um not as much as I am worried about my cat eating it so I'm less wor about losing it then it going inside an animal's stomach would not be good yeah I mean when I whenever I take it out of my ear I just put it right back in the case it it's that's your method for preventing it from getting lost re I don't know it's it's not something that I do consciously it's just I feel like I don't know that's just where they belong but I mean I can see people just taking it out and tossing it on the table or whatever I was talking just to a guy about losing stuff and he said that he um he always lost his pens writing utensils he always lost his pens until he bought a nice pen and once he had a nice pen that he'd spent a lot of money on yeah he kept up with it just by virtue of of not wanting to lose it yeah yeah yeah I can see that so how does find my iPod airpods work um so every time your airpods connect or you know ping your host device like iPhone the iPhone logs that location or wherever that location is for the iPhone its own location and creates um kind of like a Bluetooth range like an estimate of how far away your earpods airpods could be and plots that on the uh find my iPhone map so you know the uh find my iPhone this feature is actually in find my iPhone right it's integrated into the same app that we've had for quite a while yeah so just like Apple watch got integrated into that now it's there's an airpod uh feature in there so you go into the app uh if if hopefully you've linked it to a to a device that has iCloud and if you did then you'll see a little a little line for airpods and you can tap on that to see the last known location unless you're using it then it'll just show up as wherever your iPhone is or whatever right now if you lose them can you play a sound on them you can um there's an option to so if you if you select play sound um at that point you you'll probably not be connected to it right so uh it'll play a sound whenever you connect to it next so let's say you lost your like left ear pod out when you're running somewhere um you can walk to that area where they where it was plotted on the map and then um it should hopefully connect back up to your iPhone and then it'll play a sound it's not very loud so I mean if if you're doing indoors it's much it's much better uh but if you lose it when you're running or something I would suggest only playing the sound at night time or whenever it's quiet low traffic hours or something yeah because it also diminishes the battery right right well because it's got to be connected to receive the signal to play and it's got to be running full volume so it uses battery to do that it's actually a rising and falling tone so it's kind of it's it's a bit better than just playing like a solid tone it's a bit more apparent but um still it's it's prettyy quiet so the other problem is is the range on them is quite good right yeah so as I mentioned in the uh we did like a short handson kind of thing um depending on the W1 chip it could be like you could be searching area that's like couple hundred square feet so tough to uh easy to connect but tough to find if you are looking in a bunch of bunch of like bunch of stuff inside or maybe even like Outdoors on a road or in a forest I don't know wherever you run yeah I'm I'm just thinking what's your advice besides using the which is probably a good idea do you think that you're going to put the uh the next strap that keeps the two airpods tied together on yours no because if I wanted to do that I'd buy the Beats headphones yeah yeah I bought it because it's uh completely untethered so I can use one at a time if I want to all right and not have uh you know not have the other one dangling yeah but so I'll take the chance if I take the chance if I lose one I'll have to pay the $60 to replace it yeah but you're not going to lose them because a you put them right back in your case and and be you know you take care of these things yeah well part of the part of the putting it back in the case is the case is charges it so I mean it's it's kind of intuitive to do that um so I don't know I think most people put it back in the case unless they you know take it out for running and leave the case at home just come home and plop it down somewhere yeah I don't know pretty cool well I want to take a moment and talk about Casper mattresses uh Neil has this mattress and and I've thought about getting one it's a it's an obsessively engineered mattress they they even show them at CES the electronics show for crying out loud at a really fair price it's it's a supportive memory foam that creates an award-winning sleep surface with just the right amount of sink and the right amount of Bounce and Time Magazine thought it was one of the best inventions of 2015 and you can try C ER for 100 nights risk-free in your own home and 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it could conly be built into wearables you could scan for things like your your glucose levels without having to to to uh Lance yourself what what's what's the theory behind this article that we wrote The Theory yeah what's the theory is that Apple's going to include this in a future Apple watch okay so why do we think that could happen well uh Apple wants Apple watch to be much more than it is it they want it to be the health device they don't want it to be the fitness device that it is now and that they're pushing so hard for now wait wait I I got to ask because the first time they released Apple watch it was very much about health you agree yeah yeah and and with this release of Watch 2 it's been all refocused around physical fitness and athleticism right am I still right yep yeah so you're saying that with this refocus that's not their eventual path that's not what they really want I think they really want it to be a health device I mean there was the report that came out uh when was a few months ago talking about how the watch was not born of its own it it was born because of Apple's shift and focus to health uh Solutions like Health k it was born from that effort so it was kind of ancillary um invention that they made so they can you know push forward their health initiative so having a fitness tracker I mean that's fine but I you know for a holistic uh Health tracking is much more than a pedometer and stuff like that you know and um car kit apps you want something that is monitoring your body and biometric signals at all times when you know a watch is good for that but the technology is just not there plus the fact that they have to go through um a whole bunch of regulatory uh hurdles especially in the US to getting a health device out there so um first step you got the device out there to how hundreds of thousands or millions of consumers depending on what stats you're looking at Next Step you know creating a or turning that device into a full-fledged health tracker and not just a fitness tracker um and this chip while I don't think they'll include the specific piece of Hardware they'll probably do something you know something that they created like you know like they created their own uh pulsometer or pulse oximeter um uh no they don't have pulse oxin in the Apple watch uh they have they have heart rate but they don't have pulseox what do they call it it's not a pulseox what do they call it they're not measuring your oxygen levels by Shining Light Through Your Skin they're measuring the heart rate and and it is that special technology with the green LEDs but it's not okay so spectroscopy is the the science of analyzing wavelengths absorbed and emitted by materials so you can kind of understand their chemical composition based on what the wavelength looks like what's what's reflected what's absorbed and this particular chip that we've been talking about is an 18x18 mm chip which sounds pretty small but is in fact pretty substantial when you look at the size of the Apple watch mhm you know the Apple watch is 38 mm and this thing is is um takes up quite a bit of that let's say it would replace the it would it would completely replace the heart rate monitor on the bottom it would have to or be fully integrated into like perhaps behind it I don't know yeah but the way the uh heart rate sensor is it already has the uh the four or the two LED emitters and two receivers I don't know well and this particular chip costs $100 it seems so it's it's probably also impractical to integrate into um current devices at that price but as you say it it looks like there's going to be more sensors coming and uh MH do do you think they'll we'll see that anytime soon do you think we'll see that in something like a third generation watch probably not from what I hear the third gen is just going to be thinner and faster processor better battery life maybe not better battery life but uh but thinner all right maybe maybe a couple gen couple years couple couple years okay we'll see so let's let's talk a little bit about Qualcomm uh Apple started a relationship with Qualcomm as far back as the iPhone 4 when they made the first iPhone that worked on CDMA networks mhm and they went to Qualcomm at that time because Qualcomm owns all the patents on CDMA cell modems right so it made good sense for that now Qualcomm and apple are are embroiled in a deep lawsuit in a big big lawsuit multiple multiple what tell tell me about these multiple lawsuits what's what's going on here uh well Apple's saying that the Qualcomm is extorting its customers by uh a whole slew of kind of sh business practices like they won't sell you components unless you license the uh the supposedly standard essential patents first and they're not charging uh Fran rates for the patents that they do license um and they have like they they have secret deals with uh secondary manufacturers who which Apple buys the actual chips from so what basically Apple basically qualcomm's business model is they'll license the IP to uh contract manufacturers small smaller companies then Apple buys the chips from them as well as licens licensing the uh scps at the same time uh they'll be paying for those so that's paying twice for the same license basically yeah but the problem is Apple can't Apple's not seeing um what patents or how much these uh contract manufacturers are paying Qualcomm so because the Agreements are secret and Qualcomm will not license those patents directly to Apple so basically Qualcomm is charging exorbitant rates supposedly according to Apple to these CMS and then the CMS are passing those fees along to Apple because Qualcomm knows Apple can pay it so they won't deal with them directly and a bunch of other things now what's so so apple is asserting that it's it's price gouging and extortion and more because Qualcomm is the only one that can provide the uh this IP right right and and qualcom is they're alleging this double dipping yeah and Qualcomm is saying that this is not a regulatory issue because Apple's bringing Fran rates which is a regulatory issue so that's that that stands for fair reasonable and non-discriminatory yes right that's that's basically saying that when you license a patent you're not paying an exorbitant rate for it or well more specifically standard essential or stand patents that are deemed standard essential so okay those are the patents that are that um you know cover things like like Wireless frequencies and stuff yeah yeah so the stuff that Qualcomm owns or developed so they should be licensing that at FR rates but they are supposedly not yeah and Apple is is saying this and and qualcomm's coming back and saying basically Apple just wants to pay less right and they're making a regulatory issue out of a you know an issue that should stay between businesses and they're also alleging that apple is feeding uh information to a bunch of regulatory agencies around the world including the US and China and South Korea um where the the latter of which Qualcomm just got slapped with a pretty hefty I think r54 million fine for unfair business practices related to their uh licensing agreement the the Korean Fair Trade Commission leveled an 854 million4 yeah yeah so but but so where where do this 1 billion in unpaid license rebates come in because that Apple says that's what's triggering the the suit here okay so so to make up for not make up for so Qualcomm charges you for exclusive to certain scps and then they will pay you back or pay Apple back in this case and they withheld that uh rebate because supposedly Apple says the Apple cooperated with the um the kftc so I mean the this sounds like a bad High School spat yeah well I mean I don't know I me it's in Apple's best interest obviously to get um the best rates on well first of all it's in their best interest to get the best rates and second of all what are you going to not cooperate with the Korean Free Trade Commission yeah well be beyond that the they mean the uh the uh contracts that they have with apple uh with Qualcomm specify that they obviously can talk to trade bodies and Regulatory Agencies um it's specifically noted in there so uh it's kind of weird it's kind of weird thing I think I don't know I I feel like I mean qualcomm's license IP practices have been kind of sketchy in the past and the FTC is already investigating or they did investigate and have it has its own lawsuit against uh Qualcomm that was I think revealed two weeks ago so Qualcomm has been their practices have been questioned many times in the past so Apple's just kind of piling on to that yeah does this have any anything to do with apple using Intel modems instead of Qualcomm modems in the iPhone um well since Qualcomm hasn't really well I mean it could it could they didn't really they didn't specify that in the uh in the suit they didn't say that you know they're with withholding these that this one nearly $1 billion dollar in rebates because we're D diversifying our supply chain but um ironically it could blow up in their face and apple you know could diversify even f further and negotiate better rates at the same time from Qualcomm so Qualcomm could be the big loser here we don't know and that's probably why they took up like I don't know almost half of their earnings call yesterday talking about the uh various lawsuits that are floating around now well that's that's not the only one right yeah there's uh two in China basically asserting the same thing MH so um I don't know we'll see seems like apple has upper hand but Qualcomm is saying that they'll file a counter suit of course and in the meantime they'll still honor their agreements with the uh contract manufacturers so Apple can have their CDMA modems well it's it's kind of a good thing for Qualcomm to do that because if if they uh you know I don't know the terms but if they're licensed base on uh every device sold that's equipped with it then they want to keep those devices going so that the amount keeps increasing right well qualcomm's contracts are technically with the contract manufacturers and then Apple buys the components from those manufacturers so they're really upholding their end of the bargain with the CMS but of course they make lots of money from that because Apple buys the primium they buy a lot don't they yeah they they buy quite a bit just a few yeah so Apple's also being sued along with an ad agency that they used over a voice sample used in an iPhone 6 TV commercial MH um there was a commercial for the iPhone 6 which is of course now a 2-year-old phone um that had a sample of a 70s group called The Persuasions that was used inside a song by jxx that was uh and I sure hope I'm pronouncing that right because I'm not that much of a fan not a fan I I AP you know he's a fine artist he's a Grammy nominated uh artist for the album in colors but I am not a listener uh but at any rate the track takes samples from the persuasion song Good Times which was used in the Apple commercial and I would have thought just on the face of this right it's it's 2017 laws around music licensing and sampling were pretty well figured out by now you would think wrong sir well no I would actually I would be correct because the detail is that this suit is not about sampling this suit is about a California right called the right to publicity where Californian law says that uh if if your voice or your signature or photograph or likeness is used knowingly M to sell something without that person's prior consent then then that that person who used that Voice or signature is liable for damages sustained interesting and sounds highly subjective but well obviously the lawyers get to work that out with the with the judge but basically someone can't take your face or your music and go and use it without your consent uh where when you're licensing music you can you just pay the Harry Fox agency and pay you know pay the licensing fees um you don't have to get consent here you do and uh and so that's what the claim is about at least in part the other part of the complaint is that um it that that a lot there was a violation of collective bargaining agreements with Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television radio artists which allows separate bargaining with singers over commercial licensing I wonder how they would basically saying he didn't get paid enough first of all he didn't get paid enough because they used his voice without permission and second of all he didn't get paid enough under the uh the The Screen Actors Guild and and radio artists I wonder how they would negotiate the fees for just a California since it's a California uh policy just where it aired in California I mean they the way they'd have to do it is they'd have to look at the music and identify who was on the sample and then contact that person and agree to pay them ahead time as opposed to just producing it and going with it and paying the licensing through like I said one of the agencies but how much I wonder well Lawson's complaining that he's injured by more than $10 million oh wow because his here my voice was 10 million yeah my voice is also not worth $10 million yet but what he's saying is that um fans of The Persuasions might recognize his voice within this sample of the jam XX song and conclude that The Persuasions and and the singer are endorsing Apple when that clearly isn't true you know why I bought my iPhone why did you buy your iPhone because a uh a group from the 70s endorsed it there you go they were good right they were so good that when I saw them endorse the iPhone I said hey I need to have that device well absolutely um and this is not the first time this kind of lawsuit has come up uh there was another one last year against Google for an advertisement that was done for their Nexus smartphones and there was one against scripts for Home and Garden television but both of those cases were dropped before a ruling could take place and so the question is will this one be dropped or will this one make it to a ruling and no I doubt it I mean I probably settle out of court for more than 10 million in Damages not more than that I'm sure no so in other news apples Tim Cook has has managed to cash in uh another chunk of company stock mhm now he's he's done this a couple of times in the past couple of weeks so this is the second time uh just a few days ago he cashed in Apple shares worth 3.6 million yeah and then he sold another batch in an almost identical amount well it's important to note that these were planned sales from yeah 2015 so it's not like he's saying my God the ship is going down I need to surprise I need to bail need to bail everything sell it all yeah so these were uh plan sales um according to his whatever his selloff plan whatever his uh obligations were so um this was decided two years ago almost so I mean yeah it's a selloff and he did he did get docked the uh not really docked but he did get uh he missed out on the performance bonus for and how big was that bonus Mikey um I don't know how big was it 1 billion million dollar yeah not not a lot so so he missed out on 1.5 million because Apple had slower iPhone sales and and managed only a net sales of uh 25.6 billion yeah which was short of the goals so sad yeah uh yeah so the the well the entire executive team got missed out on that so all the svps um but I this is not in response to that MH so you shouldn't read too much into it right and and despite that those those results uh Tim Cook is scheduled to receive another batch of 700,000 vested restricted stock units right as per his payment uh plan from 2011 or whatever yeah and that's that's going to come about in uh 2021 right so if if Tim Cook is still in charge of Apple in 2021 and we're all still here on planet Earth in 2021 he'll receive that batch at that time yep and he has a chance to make even more money with performance uh performance goals which seem to be back on track for the uh holiday quarter at least yeah so this this should not Inspire any crazy rumors right this shouldn't say that Johnny IV is retiring because obviously this was planned um this this shouldn't tell us that there's going to be a red MacBook and it's going to be apocalyptically bad um this should tell us that the Mac coming back is a cube you like that one um this isn't an indicator that apple is doomed right no it's just business as usual the uh I mean it's so then why why did it happen just a few days before earnings um just it's just coincidence that it happened it it's uh they do it so people don't create rumors um or you know but in app's case it's not doesn't really work out that way um so they usually do these planed sales because they don't want to stoke investor fears but uh as you say this has been planned for a long enough period of time it could just be tax planning right yeah yeah for I mean a lot of it sometimes it is usually well not usually sometimes it is because um you know they get paid so much in uh restricted stock units that fast they have to pay taxes on that and they have to sell a certain amount of shares blah blah blah um that are withheld from them but those are usually uh those us usually vest at the same time when they when the uh rsu's vest so this is a slightly different okay so following this news Tim Cook is left with 9798 n shares of Apple stock worth uh more or less about 117.5 million that's pretty good pretty good it's a nice Pocket Change yeah it's going to his uh his a nephew right some of it at least I don't know I believe he did he said that one point okay well good for good for him and good for his nephew if that's the case uh Mikey this this is another wonderful episode of the Apple Insider podcast and it's blown past us where can people find you on the internet at appleinsider.com and at Mikey cbell 81 on twitar I'm your host Victor and I'm at V marks on Twitter and if Apple brings back a uh a cube computer we'll be sure to tell you all about it on the Apple Insider podcastyou're listening to the Apple Insider podcast welcome to episode 105 of the Apple Insider podcast I'm your host Victor marks and joining me is Mikey Campbell hey Mikey what's up we are going to talk all about Apple iPod iPad mac and more and starting off I want to talk about what could happen with Touch ID Touch ID is a favorite feature of all of the current iPhones uh it's been on an iPhone since iPhone 5s and it's it's it's going to change I mean it changed most recently on the iPhone 7 where instead of being a physical button it's now just a part of the glass with a haptic engine behind it but we we've got a we've got a a piece of news piece of of of information that says that it's going to change even more Mikey what's that about so everyone's favorite list Ming quo is yes he's saying uh Apple's going to maybe not this next generation of iPhone but some future generation they're going to try to move away from Touch ID and go for a more hands-off solution so probably facial recognition or Iris recognition so users don't even need to interact with a device at all to unlock it but still have that same security well now wait so you're saying it's going to be two-step facial and fingerprint well for first I mean okay so that that's the the plan is to go full facial recognition but in between that he's he's saying that there's going to have to be some sort of hybrid uh before they get there because the facial Tech is not um it's not fully flushed out yet so so in between there there's going to be some sort of uh two- factor or uh actually maybe not two- Factor but um yeah well I don't know could be two- Factor method of uh securing your phone so you're going to have to input the fingerprint and or your face I would assume it would be one or the other um but uh the way he's saying is that you you can't really rely on the facial uh recognition Tech right now um especially because Apple doesn't have any of those assets in place it would take it would take a long time to build up the database and the uh you know machine learning algorithms and the uh computer vision stuff so that none of that is in place right now so they're going to have to build that out first and while they're doing that they're going to you know maybe make a switch right so there there are a lot of uh barriers to this right one of them is um you know software design that has to be changed for it uh the hardware component development that has to exist for it the the creation of the database and backend as you said and and also to have all that running in device requires a lot of computing power yeah I would assume uh the facial recognition just to make it work would have to be offloaded um well it's interesting because there have been other phones that have had facial recognition in them that haven't really worked very well but they they've had it there have also been other laptops uh Lenovo did this a few years ago where they used the webcam to try and unlock your Windows computer yeah well the thing with those uh I mean you can do it on a device obviously right I mean it's there's software available that you can recognize someone's face but to what degree I mean to use it as a security feature it will have to be you know very accurate so it'll have to depend on a database that's pretty vast so I would assume that would be offloaded to an off-site server but I mean who knows well you know that Apple would probably prefer to keep it in just because in as opposed to offloading it because privacy yeah well I mean still they do the same thing with Siri right I mean they offload pretty much everything um that goes through Siri to an offsite server and there's some you know potential for personal information to get out yeah now why why wouldn't they just use I scanning um well quo believes that they're leaning towards facial because they have a lot of uh patents for facial recognition stuff we've covered a lot of them and we've also covered the Irish stuff but uh it seems like the facial is a way to go um plus they made all those purchases right a facial uh I mean they they bought face shift um that small was it I think it was a German company right who uh specialized in um not facial recognition just pure vanilla facial recognition but uh facial recognition and um face scanning technology for the uh for the uh Movie Market okay so the the iPhone 8 that this potentially could be in is a a stainless steel glass sandwich with wireless charging uh Next Generation 3D touch Tech and potentially facial scanning I would say not this round maybe not even next year either um so some future iteration but what could make it into this year's iPhone is a is a optical Touch ID which which isn't really touch ID at all although they would probably name it touch ID um but instead of you know the capacitive uh scanning module that they have in there now which requires the stainless steel ring to send you know a small current through your finger it would the they'll go just to a pure Optical solution that takes a scan of your of your fingerprint and he's saying that you know that would solve the problem of having a full face iPhone uh which Ed Edge screen right yeah so instead you know because right now what what they would have to do is have EDG Edge screen and they'd have a huge hole in it at the bottom or wherever they want to put it to fit in touch ID or move it to the back of the device but I don't think Apple would do that so um what he's saying is that they're uh looking to do Optical which can be placed underneath the OLED screen so it would be invisible to the user but it would still be there um but the problem for that is of course the problem um the OLED manufacturers are going to have to custom make uh or custom manufacture their their panels to accommodate this technology either by uh making the pixel width you know or pixel pitch near the uh sensor a bit wider to um accommodate the optical module or by integrating it completely into the uh laminated panel so we'll see where that goes that that could end up on the next or on this year's iPhone the uh special edition one as I like to call it ah we wait but we already have a special edition one that's the small one uh is super special super special okay talking about other things that are special uh do you use night shift mode on your iPhone yep have it set up every night and what do you do for your computer um nothing I I did use uh what was that third party app I'm using it now it's called flux yeah flux I used to use that I mean I don't I try to stay away from my computer at night time I I never do but uh um but it's not like I use my computer in bed so it's uh not really a problem for me well you're you're kind of a desktop guy right you don't use a laptop really no I use a laptop yeah you do so so you just avoid bringing your laptop to bed yeah yeah that's very smart of you um I'm I instead use the uh flux third party although it looks like I won't need to because in Mac OS Sierra the 10.2.4 beta it appears that there's a new night shift mode which does just what flux does what night shift does on the iOS which is they they reduce the amount of blue light in the uh the screen as it's displayed because blue light is one of those things that fools your body into staying awake messes with your circadian rhythm bruh messes with your circadian rhythm actually messes also with your eyes for for extended view periods you know if you ever look at the uh the the glasses that are Amber lenses for gaming yeah the gunar yeah the gunar glasses they they filter out the blue light as well so a lot of some screen makers are making um I think my I just bought a a monitor from uh what is this this is a this a Asus it has a low blue light mode so I mean they they're doing that too the monitor Market doesn't really work that well but whatever well so would you use this mode on your max um probably not because I need um I mean if I'm working I need it to be I need the color reproduction to be what other people are seeing at all times yeah so probably not but I mean if I if I if my job was not to publish pictures and other such media to the uh to the masses then I would probably use it you okay I I would definitely use it um you know if you're listening out there and you use your computer at night or in bed let us know and let us know if you use night shift on iOS because I'm curious to see what the the uptake or what the need is for this on the laptop I know that I need it because I'm up all hours doing stuff and I have flux change it for me at night but uh I'm curious to know how many others of there are out there do you do you see a difference or can you notice do you feel a difference in your body cuz I don't know theur out right there's there's a couple of problems one of them is you're already staying up late and anytime you're staying up late late you're essentially uh creating a sleep deficit and you're you're proving you know above all that that you're able to stay awake as opposed to being productive your productivity drops off but you're proving you can still stay up um but I I do find that once I do close the laptop after having had it open I'm able to fall asleep more quickly than if I'd had it uh with with its regular blue light displaying at me interesting is that scientific no that's that's anecdotal but it's my experience interesting you think it's a placebo effect uh you know I don't know but I I do know that I had this laptop reinstalled without it without flux on it and was using it that way for a few months and I it took me regularly anywhere from 30 to 40 minutes to fall asleep and uh closing it with with flux running and having been running I'm I'm closer to 10 or 20 so there is a difference interesting I cool cool might have to try it out I don't know yeah talking about features in betas uh tell me about iOS 10.3 is beta oh the uh find my airpods a yeah well first of all do you have airpods yeah yeah okay are you worried about losing them um not as much as I am worried about my cat eating it so I'm less wor about losing it then it going inside an animal's stomach would not be good yeah I mean when I whenever I take it out of my ear I just put it right back in the case it it's that's your method for preventing it from getting lost re I don't know it's it's not something that I do consciously it's just I feel like I don't know that's just where they belong but I mean I can see people just taking it out and tossing it on the table or whatever I was talking just to a guy about losing stuff and he said that he um he always lost his pens writing utensils he always lost his pens until he bought a nice pen and once he had a nice pen that he'd spent a lot of money on yeah he kept up with it just by virtue of of not wanting to lose it yeah yeah yeah I can see that so how does find my iPod airpods work um so every time your airpods connect or you know ping your host device like iPhone the iPhone logs that location or wherever that location is for the iPhone its own location and creates um kind of like a Bluetooth range like an estimate of how far away your earpods airpods could be and plots that on the uh find my iPhone map so you know the uh find my iPhone this feature is actually in find my iPhone right it's integrated into the same app that we've had for quite a while yeah so just like Apple watch got integrated into that now it's there's an airpod uh feature in there so you go into the app uh if if hopefully you've linked it to a to a device that has iCloud and if you did then you'll see a little a little line for airpods and you can tap on that to see the last known location unless you're using it then it'll just show up as wherever your iPhone is or whatever right now if you lose them can you play a sound on them you can um there's an option to so if you if you select play sound um at that point you you'll probably not be connected to it right so uh it'll play a sound whenever you connect to it next so let's say you lost your like left ear pod out when you're running somewhere um you can walk to that area where they where it was plotted on the map and then um it should hopefully connect back up to your iPhone and then it'll play a sound it's not very loud so I mean if if you're doing indoors it's much it's much better uh but if you lose it when you're running or something I would suggest only playing the sound at night time or whenever it's quiet low traffic hours or something yeah because it also diminishes the battery right right well because it's got to be connected to receive the signal to play and it's got to be running full volume so it uses battery to do that it's actually a rising and falling tone so it's kind of it's it's a bit better than just playing like a solid tone it's a bit more apparent but um still it's it's prettyy quiet so the other problem is is the range on them is quite good right yeah so as I mentioned in the uh we did like a short handson kind of thing um depending on the W1 chip it could be like you could be searching area that's like couple hundred square feet so tough to uh easy to connect but tough to find if you are looking in a bunch of bunch of like bunch of stuff inside or maybe even like Outdoors on a road or in a forest I don't know wherever you run yeah I'm I'm just thinking what's your advice besides using the which is probably a good idea do you think that you're going to put the uh the next strap that keeps the two airpods tied together on yours no because if I wanted to do that I'd buy the Beats headphones yeah yeah I bought it because it's uh completely untethered so I can use one at a time if I want to all right and not have uh you know not have the other one dangling yeah but so I'll take the chance if I take the chance if I lose one I'll have to pay the $60 to replace it yeah but you're not going to lose them because a you put them right back in your case and and be you know you take care of these things yeah well part of the part of the putting it back in the case is the case is charges it so I mean it's it's kind of intuitive to do that um so I don't know I think most people put it back in the case unless they you know take it out for running and leave the case at home just come home and plop it down somewhere yeah I don't know pretty cool well I want to take a moment and talk about Casper mattresses uh Neil has this mattress and and I've thought about getting one it's a it's an obsessively engineered mattress they they even show them at CES the electronics show for crying out loud at a really fair price it's it's a supportive memory foam that creates an award-winning sleep surface with just the right amount of sink and the right amount of Bounce and Time Magazine thought it was one of the best inventions of 2015 and you can try C 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drinks for things like caffeine gluten levels um it could conly be built into wearables you could scan for things like your your glucose levels without having to to to uh Lance yourself what what's what's the theory behind this article that we wrote The Theory yeah what's the theory is that Apple's going to include this in a future Apple watch okay so why do we think that could happen well uh Apple wants Apple watch to be much more than it is it they want it to be the health device they don't want it to be the fitness device that it is now and that they're pushing so hard for now wait wait I I got to ask because the first time they released Apple watch it was very much about health you agree yeah yeah and and with this release of Watch 2 it's been all refocused around physical fitness and athleticism right am I still right yep yeah so you're saying that with this refocus that's not their eventual path that's not what they really want I think they really want it to be a health device I mean there was the report that came out uh when was a few months ago talking about how the watch was not born of its own it it was born because of Apple's shift and focus to health uh Solutions like Health k it was born from that effort so it was kind of ancillary um invention that they made so they can you know push forward their health initiative so having a fitness tracker I mean that's fine but I you know for a holistic uh Health tracking is much more than a pedometer and stuff like that you know and um car kit apps you want something that is monitoring your body and biometric signals at all times when you know a watch is good for that but the technology is just not there plus the fact that they have to go through um a whole bunch of regulatory uh hurdles especially in the US to getting a health device out there so um first step you got the device out there to how hundreds of thousands or millions of consumers depending on what stats you're looking at Next Step you know creating a or turning that device into a full-fledged health tracker and not just a fitness tracker um and this chip while I don't think they'll include the specific piece of Hardware they'll probably do something you know something that they created like you know like they created their own uh pulsometer or pulse oximeter um uh no they don't have pulse oxin in the Apple watch uh they have they have heart rate but they don't have pulseox what do they call it it's not a pulseox what do they call it they're not measuring your oxygen levels by Shining Light Through Your Skin they're measuring the heart rate and and it is that special technology with the green LEDs but it's not okay so spectroscopy is the the science of analyzing wavelengths absorbed and emitted by materials so you can kind of understand their chemical composition based on what the wavelength looks like what's what's reflected what's absorbed and this particular chip that we've been talking about is an 18x18 mm chip which sounds pretty small but is in fact pretty substantial when you look at the size of the Apple watch mhm you know the Apple watch is 38 mm and this thing is is um takes up quite a bit of that let's say it would replace the it would it would completely replace the heart rate monitor on the bottom it would have to or be fully integrated into like perhaps behind it I don't know yeah but the way the uh heart rate sensor is it already has the uh the four or the two LED emitters and two receivers I don't know well and this particular chip costs $100 it seems so it's it's probably also impractical to integrate into um current devices at that price but as you say it it looks like there's going to be more sensors coming and uh MH do do you think they'll we'll see that anytime soon do you think we'll see that in something like a third generation watch probably not from what I hear the third gen is just going to be thinner and faster processor better battery life maybe not better battery life but uh but thinner all right maybe maybe a couple gen couple years couple couple years okay we'll see so let's let's talk a little bit about Qualcomm uh Apple started a relationship with Qualcomm as far back as the iPhone 4 when they made the first iPhone that worked on CDMA networks mhm and they went to Qualcomm at that time because Qualcomm owns all the patents on CDMA cell modems right so it made good sense for that now Qualcomm and apple are are embroiled in a deep lawsuit in a big big lawsuit multiple multiple what tell tell me about these multiple lawsuits what's what's going on here uh well Apple's saying that the Qualcomm is extorting its customers by uh a whole slew of kind of sh business practices like they won't sell you components unless you license the uh the supposedly standard essential patents first and they're not charging uh Fran rates for the patents that they do license um and they have like they they have secret deals with uh secondary manufacturers who which Apple buys the actual chips from so what basically Apple basically qualcomm's business model is they'll license the IP to uh contract manufacturers small smaller companies then Apple buys the chips from them as well as licens licensing the uh scps at the same time uh they'll be paying for those so that's paying twice for the same license basically yeah but the problem is Apple can't Apple's not seeing um what patents or how much these uh contract manufacturers are paying Qualcomm so because the Agreements are secret and Qualcomm will not license those patents directly to Apple so basically Qualcomm is charging exorbitant rates supposedly according to Apple to these CMS and then the CMS are passing those fees along to Apple because Qualcomm knows Apple can pay it so they won't deal with them directly and a bunch of other things now what's so so apple is asserting that it's it's price gouging and extortion and more because Qualcomm is the only one that can provide the uh this IP right right and and qualcom is they're alleging this double dipping yeah and Qualcomm is saying that this is not a regulatory issue because Apple's bringing Fran rates which is a regulatory issue so that's that that stands for fair reasonable and non-discriminatory yes right that's that's basically saying that when you license a patent you're not paying an exorbitant rate for it or well more specifically standard essential or stand patents that are deemed standard essential so okay those are the patents that are that um you know cover things like like Wireless frequencies and stuff yeah yeah so the stuff that Qualcomm owns or developed so they should be licensing that at FR rates but they are supposedly not yeah and Apple is is saying this and and qualcomm's coming back and saying basically Apple just wants to pay less right and they're making a regulatory issue out of a you know an issue that should stay between businesses and they're also alleging that apple is feeding uh information to a bunch of regulatory agencies around the world including the US and China and South Korea um where the the latter of which Qualcomm just got slapped with a pretty hefty I think r54 million fine for unfair business practices related to their uh licensing agreement the the Korean Fair Trade Commission leveled an 854 million4 yeah yeah so but but so where where do this 1 billion in unpaid license rebates come in because that Apple says that's what's triggering the the suit here okay so so to make up for not make up for so Qualcomm charges you for exclusive to certain scps and then they will pay you back or pay Apple back in this case and they withheld that uh rebate because supposedly Apple says the Apple cooperated with the um the kftc so I mean the this sounds like a bad High School spat yeah well I mean I don't know I me it's in Apple's best interest obviously to get um the best rates on well first of all it's in their best interest to get the best rates and second of all what are you going to not cooperate with the Korean Free Trade Commission yeah well be beyond that the they mean the uh the uh contracts that they have with apple uh with Qualcomm specify that they obviously can talk to trade bodies and Regulatory Agencies um it's specifically noted in there so uh it's kind of weird it's kind of weird thing I think I don't know I I feel like I mean qualcomm's license IP practices have been kind of sketchy in the past and the FTC is already investigating or they did investigate and have it has its own lawsuit against uh Qualcomm that was I think revealed two weeks ago so Qualcomm has been their practices have been questioned many times in the past so Apple's just kind of piling on to that yeah does this have any anything to do with apple using Intel modems instead of Qualcomm modems in the iPhone um well since Qualcomm hasn't really well I mean it could it could they didn't really they didn't specify that in the uh in the suit they didn't say that you know they're with withholding these that this one nearly $1 billion dollar in rebates because we're D diversifying our supply chain but um ironically it could blow up in their face and apple you know could diversify even f further and negotiate better rates at the same time from Qualcomm so Qualcomm could be the big loser here we don't know and that's probably why they took up like I don't know almost half of their earnings call yesterday talking about the uh various lawsuits that are floating around now well that's that's not the only one right yeah there's uh two in China basically asserting the same thing MH so um I don't know we'll see seems like apple has upper hand but Qualcomm is saying that they'll file a counter suit of course and in the meantime they'll still honor their agreements with the uh contract manufacturers so Apple can have their CDMA modems well it's it's kind of a good thing for Qualcomm to do that because if if they uh you know I don't know the terms but if they're licensed base on uh every device sold that's equipped with it then they want to keep those devices going so that the amount keeps increasing right well qualcomm's contracts are technically with the contract manufacturers and then Apple buys the components from those manufacturers so they're really upholding their end of the bargain with the CMS but of course they make lots of money from that because Apple buys the primium they buy a lot don't they yeah they they buy quite a bit just a few yeah so Apple's also being sued along with an ad agency that they used over a voice sample used in an iPhone 6 TV commercial MH um there was a commercial for the iPhone 6 which is of course now a 2-year-old phone um that had a sample of a 70s group called The Persuasions that was used inside a song by jxx that was uh and I sure hope I'm pronouncing that right because I'm not that much of a fan not a fan I I AP you know he's a fine artist he's a Grammy nominated uh artist for the album in colors but I am not a listener uh but at any rate the track takes samples from the persuasion song Good Times which was used in the Apple commercial and I would have thought just on the face of this right it's it's 2017 laws around music licensing and sampling were pretty well figured out by now you would think wrong sir well no I would actually I would be correct because the detail is that this suit is not about sampling this suit is about a California right called the right to publicity where Californian law says that uh if if your voice or your signature or photograph or likeness is used knowingly M to sell something without that person's prior consent then then that that person who used that Voice or signature is liable for damages sustained interesting and sounds highly subjective but well obviously the lawyers get to work that out with the with the judge but basically someone can't take your face or your music and go and use it without your consent uh where when you're licensing music you can you just pay the Harry Fox agency and pay you know pay the licensing fees um you don't have to get consent here you do and uh and so that's what the claim is about at least in part the other part of the complaint is that um it that that a lot there was a violation of collective bargaining agreements with Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television radio artists which allows separate bargaining with singers over commercial licensing I wonder how they would basically saying he didn't get paid enough first of all he didn't get paid enough because they used his voice without permission and second of all he didn't get paid enough under the uh the The Screen Actors Guild and and radio artists I wonder how they would negotiate the fees for just a California since it's a California uh policy just where it aired in California I mean they the way they'd have to do it is they'd have to look at the music and identify who was on the sample and then contact that person and agree to pay them ahead time as opposed to just producing it and going with it and paying the licensing through like I said one of the agencies but how much I wonder well Lawson's complaining that he's injured by more than $10 million oh wow because his here my voice was 10 million yeah my voice is also not worth $10 million yet but what he's saying is that um fans of The Persuasions might recognize his voice within this sample of the jam XX song and conclude that The Persuasions and and the singer are endorsing Apple when that clearly isn't true you know why I bought my iPhone why did you buy your iPhone because a uh a group from the 70s endorsed it there you go they were good right they were so good that when I saw them endorse the iPhone I said hey I need to have that device well absolutely um and this is not the first time this kind of lawsuit has come up uh there was another one last year against Google for an advertisement that was done for their Nexus smartphones and there was one against scripts for Home and Garden television but both of those cases were dropped before a ruling could take place and so the question is will this one be dropped or will this one make it to a ruling and no I doubt it I mean I probably settle out of court for more than 10 million in Damages not more than that I'm sure no so in other news apples Tim Cook has has managed to cash in uh another chunk of company stock mhm now he's he's done this a couple of times in the past couple of weeks so this is the second time uh just a few days ago he cashed in Apple shares worth 3.6 million yeah and then he sold another batch in an almost identical amount well it's important to note that these were planned sales from yeah 2015 so it's not like he's saying my God the ship is going down I need to surprise I need to bail need to bail everything sell it all yeah so these were uh plan sales um according to his whatever his selloff plan whatever his uh obligations were so um this was decided two years ago almost so I mean yeah it's a selloff and he did he did get docked the uh not really docked but he did get uh he missed out on the performance bonus for and how big was that bonus Mikey um I don't know how big was it 1 billion million dollar yeah not not a lot so so he missed out on 1.5 million because Apple had slower iPhone sales and and managed only a net sales of uh 25.6 billion yeah which was short of the goals so sad yeah uh yeah so the the well the entire executive team got missed out on that so all the svps um but I this is not in response to that MH so you shouldn't read too much into it right and and despite that those those results uh Tim Cook is scheduled to receive another batch of 700,000 vested restricted stock units right as per his payment uh plan from 2011 or whatever yeah and that's that's going to come about in uh 2021 right so if if Tim Cook is still in charge of Apple in 2021 and we're all still here on planet Earth in 2021 he'll receive that batch at that time yep and he has a chance to make even more money with performance uh performance goals which seem to be back on track for the uh holiday quarter at least yeah so this this should not Inspire any crazy rumors right this shouldn't say that Johnny IV is retiring because obviously this was planned um this this shouldn't tell us that there's going to be a red MacBook and it's going to be apocalyptically bad um this should tell us that the Mac coming back is a cube you like that one um this isn't an indicator that apple is doomed right no it's just business as usual the uh I mean it's so then why why did it happen just a few days before earnings um just it's just coincidence that it happened it it's uh they do it so people don't create rumors um or you know but in app's case it's not doesn't really work out that way um so they usually do these planed sales because they don't want to stoke investor fears but uh as you say this has been planned for a long enough period of time it could just be tax planning right yeah yeah for I mean a lot of it sometimes it is usually well not usually sometimes it is because um you know they get paid so much in uh restricted stock units that fast they have to pay taxes on that and they have to sell a certain amount of shares blah blah blah um that are withheld from them but those are usually uh those us usually vest at the same time when they when the uh rsu's vest so this is a slightly different okay so following this news Tim Cook is left with 9798 n shares of Apple stock worth uh more or less about 117.5 million that's pretty good pretty good it's a nice Pocket Change yeah it's going to his uh his a nephew right some of it at least I don't know I believe he did he said that one point okay well good for good for him and good for his nephew if that's the case uh Mikey this this is another wonderful episode of the Apple Insider podcast and it's blown past us where can people find you on the internet at appleinsider.com and at Mikey cbell 81 on twitar I'm your host Victor and I'm at V marks on Twitter and if Apple brings back a uh a cube computer we'll be sure to tell you all about it on the Apple Insider podcast\n"