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**$250,000 3D Printer vs $300 3D Printer: What's the Difference?**
This is a $250,000 3D printer designed for 3D printing car parts. And this is a $300 3D printer, one of the cheapest ones you can buy. With a price difference that extreme, what does all that money really get you? And how much do you really need to spend if you wanna 3D print your own car parts?
Well today we're gonna find out. I'm Jeremiah. - I'm Nolan. Welcome to Donut.
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WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en- This is a $250,000 3D printerdesigned for 3D printing car parts.- And this is a $300 3D printer,one of the cheapest ones you can buy.- With a price difference that extreme,what does all that money really get you?- And how much do you really need to spendif you wanna 3D print your own car parts?- Well today we're gonna find out.I'm Jeremiah.- I'm Nolan.Welcome to Donut.This is the Ridge Walletand they're sponsoring today's video.It's light, sleek, and mostimportant, it's durable.This is your dad's bulkywallet from the 90sthat you inherited.It isn't durable.The Ridge Wallet expandsto hold up to 12 cardsplus still has room for cash.And unlike that melting cowhide wallet,the Ridge comes with RFID technologyto keep your cards safefrom digital thieves.And if you don't love it within 45 daysyou can send it back for a full refund.Let's be real.With over 50,000 five-star reviewsyou're definitely gonna love it.But the Ridge team isn't justupgrading wallet storage,they're also upgradingyour key storage with this.The Ridge key caseorganizes up to six keysin a minimalist, compact silhouette.From wallets and key casesto backpacks and phone cases,the Ridge has the perfectgift for this holiday season.So check out the link belowor visit ridge.com/donutmediaand use code "DONUTMEDIA" to get 10% offplus free worldwide shipping and returns.- The world of 3D printing is pretty wide.There are a lot of 3Dprinters of varying size,price point, capability,all that kind of stuff.I'm a total noob when itcomes to this sort of thing.- We're both noobs, but we'regonna change that today.We're gonna be functional3D printer owners.- I'm sure I'll retainall this knowledge, yeah.All right, so this is near the lower endof the 3D printer spectrum.This is a Ender 3, comes in at $300,it's made by a company called Creality.Creative reality, Jerry, Creality.Since we're noobs we've decidedto bring in a professional.Please welcome Bob fromI Like To Make Stuff.- Sup, man?- Have you had anyexperience with this machine?- So this one specifically, no.They all basically do the same thing.There's a few different types of printers,a couple of them you wouldnever have in your home.But the ones that you mighthave in your home are FDM,which are basically like hot glue guns,they squirt out hot plastic,And then you have SLA or SLS printerswhich use resin and light,they cure the resin with the laser.We don't have any of those here today,but this is called an FDM printer,basically a hot glue gun.Imagine taking a 3D objectand you cut it into twodimensional slices, cheese slices,and then this is drawing thoseslices one on top of anotherand you're building up that 3D object.- Cool, so what is the materialthat it's being made out of?- A lot of PT, PLA, ABS,these are plastics that youwould see in cars already.But then you've also gotother stuff like carbon fiber.- And then for somethinglike this that's only $300,is there limitations?- The big limitationon something like thisis the material that you can use.And then you have the build volume,how much of a thing it can actually make.You have printers that arebigger, some that are smaller.- With this machine righthere, realistically,what kind of car parts are we looking at?- Take things outta the equationthat require really high heat.So in the engine bayyou probably just wanna stay outta there.Nothing in there.You wanna look at interior parts,it'd be super easy to make.Any exterior parts are possible.- Well, I think I can thinkof a few things inside Low Carthat we can print with this thing.So let's look inside.(upbeat music)- Welcome my office.- Like your office.- So we have a lot of stuff inhere that we could 3D print.What do you wanna 3D print?- Yeah, so when we installedthis hand break during HiLowI had to modify it soit could stick throughand have clearance.These are formally climate control knobs,took all that out.If we plug these holesit could be pretty cool.Make it look cleanerand maybe relocate this fan switchto live in one of these pods right here.- I also noticed that there'snot really enough Donut logos in here.(dramatic orchestral music)Could put a Donut logo on one of these.- Yeah, that'd be cool.So maybe fan on one, Donut on the other.- Okay, so to 3D model something,you have to takeas many measurements inthe real world as possible.So let's just leave it in,measure with some calipers.56.5 millimeters.So we have the one that we needand we can head to the software.- Bam, right there.Our fan control switch willnow live in the center consoleas opposed to this little hole down herewhich I'll fill with a poptab or something like that.- There's a bunch ofdifferent ways to model this.We use Fusion 360 by Autodesk.We have an online coursewhere we teach people how to use it.- Look at that- Look at that.- And it's very, veryeasy, so we'll get started.(jazzy synth music)- Think everybody left me to eat lunch,but it's cool.I'll just,I'll just keep working, guys!- I'm right over here, Bob.I can also type on the computer.- I'm trying, it's moving too fast.- All right, so an important step to dois run a test print, makesure it's running smoothly,everything's operating normally,all the plugs are correct.- Another thing about these printersis that they take a long time to heat up.So this one's moving up atabout a degree a second.- Are you guys done yet?- Yeah.- Yeah.- When you go up in price,do you also go up in speed of printing?- If it has a differentmechanism than the lead screwsit can usually go faster.So this first couple layersI think look pretty good,which tells us that it's set up correctly,it's probably ready to print.- Awesome, yeah.Probably working isgood enough for Low Car.Alright, we got the file,we got it loaded into our printer.We're gonna set it to print, go to lunch,and hopefully when we come backit'll be at least halfway done.- Not likely but (indistinct).(bouncy trap beat)- So the printer just failed.Went back and fixed a couple things,we're just gonna try it again.Sometimes it happens.(bouncy trap beat)We turned on the AC and thatlittle bit of voltage spikemade this printer restart.Now we got start it again.- Sometimes this just doesn'twork like you want it to.Unfortunately, there'sa bunch of different,so we should be able to getyou up and running in no time.(man screams)- All right, our patience has paid off.Our parts are done printing.Let's peel 'em offand see how they fitinto our center console.- (indistinct) pop off.- Whoa!- Still got somesupport material in therewe need to get rid of.- Yes, it does.- Square it up.- Square it up.- Bam.- (indistinct) popped on there.- So cool (chuckling).That's sick. Now I'm gonna goahead and paint the letters.In the meantime, let's lookat the expensive piece.(bouncy trap beat)Jerry, what is this?- This is a $7,000 Ultimaker S5.It's got two spools hereso we can do double colors.Are there tri filament machines?- There are. There are.- Quad filament?- Quintuple?- Probably.- So Bob, what's thedifference between a $300and a $7,000 one like this?- This one, I mean,having the dual extruderis a big part of that'cause now you can havetwo different colorsbut you can also havetwo different materials.You can have flexible andrigid or strong and weak,use a bunch of different combinations.Also, it has a camera in it.I dunno if you noticed that.So you can print to this from the softwareand actually watch the print over wifi.- Oh, that's cool.- Plus the build volume,this thing's huge.- Yeah, this is pretty-- You could make a giant thing in this.- When you step up to something like this,what's the level of engagement?- It's even easier to get into.So I mean that's another part of the cost,is they build their own software,they have a better userinterface, the setup,and all of the calibrations all automatic.- That's for people who don't wanna learn.As much, as much.Also we have to thank MatterHackersfor letting us borrow this $7,000 printer.We didn't go buy oneourselves, so thank you.Go check them out,there'll be a link belowif you want to buy yourown 3D printer from them.- We spent our $7,000 ontwo more Chrysler Sebringsand a mini bike.All right, well now that we knowa little bit more about this machine,let's go and design a piece for it to makefor our center console.Okay, so we've got the fan switch goingand we already made that model.Can we just, for the middle piece,just slap a Donut logoon there and be good?- Yeah, with this softwareyou can actually importgraphics and photos and whateverand use them as drawings.So we'll just erase what we'vedone on the surface here,drop the logo on, and we cansend it to the other printer.- Perfect.(funky synth music)- We've got our two color printwith the Donut logoready for this machine.And so it's got twodifferent filaments in here,different colors, and different materials.So we're gonna go for it.See it right there. That's pretty awesome.(funky synth music)- Congratulations!(chill hip hop beat)- $7,000 print.- $300 print.- Yeah, but you can't tell,the finishing marks arevery similar, I think.This has a uniform directionat least in one way.- You can definitely seethe crosshatching on the cheaper one.But sick.We're able to make a little piece,two little pieces for our carand I'm really happy with this.Bob, Jerry and I justkinda around all day.What were the major differencesbetween the $300 printerand the $7,000 printer?- The more expensive onetook longer to get started,but obviously the results are better.This one I had to messwith a little bit more,I had to restart it threetimes to get that one print.But it did work out in the end.Honestly, something like this would workin just about every garage.- It really is true to the DIY spirit,this kind of DIY marketyear 'cause it's like, hey,you're gonna be able to do stuff with thisbut you're gonna have to messwith it for a little while.- With that one you couldmake stuff for your carand with this oneyou could make stuff foryour car and buy a car.So I mean, you know,where you wanna put your money.- All right, enough comparison talk.Let's put these in our center consoleand see how the end result looks.(funky pop music)(leaf blower blowing)- Cool, man.Look at this, dude.Fan switch is installed.Fan still works.Bitching, this thing looks great.There actually isn't anyDonut branding inside the car,so to have just one logo right thereI think fits pretty well.Now that we have this giant fan sign.anybody who drives this carprobably isn't gonnaforget to turn it on now.So that gives me some peace of mind.All right, so now thatthese holes are filled in,all I need now is a littlepop tab for the previous holeand a bag for the shifter.Unfortunately, we can't print velvet.But maybe a super duperexpensive 3D printer can.Let's go check that out.(funky bass music)- Well, as much aswe wanted to find that out,Nolan and I got diarrhea.- So I, Zach Jobe,took a trip out to Moonshot3D to talk to the owner Adnanabout his more expensive 3D printers.To start, we took a look atthe Stratasys Fortus 450mc.This is an FDM printer thatretails for around $185,000.Does this get up to temperature quicker?- Yeah, one of the big benefitsof the Stratasys machineis the way that they've beenclosed it is so far and abovewhat other companiesare doing at the moment.And you can get therewithin 10, 15 minutes,which is really fast.- Does this thing print a part quickerthan just a desktop FDM unit?- Oh my god, it's way faster.- Really?- Yeah. Yeah.- You could make a cheaper one move fasterbut you lose resolution, right?And so this moves quickand you maintain really good resolution?- Yeah, yeah.- That's pretty cool.- I guess that's what youspend all that money for.Okay, I hear we printedsome stuff ourselvesand sent them over, oh god.What do you think?- Yeah, so you do see the outline,and in a lot of cases whenI show parts like thisto someone who's runninga desktop printer,they'll tell me "I can getbetter resolution on a desktop."And for sure you can.A lot of that gaping is justdue to some print settings,But we can modifyThe big difference is youwanted to make 1,000 of these,you could do that pretty easily on here.This, that, and that took about an hour.- Alright, so a lot oftimes with the smaller,cheaper 3D printers, you kind of,you got a pretty small build size.The biggest thing you canprint is pretty small.What can this thing do?- So this gets pretty big.It's not the biggestStratasys that's out there,but it's kind of the next step up.So we can do 16x14x16.- All right, so this one is pretty big,but I hear you got an even bigger one.- Oh yeah.- Can we take a look at that?- Let's do it.- All right, so this is the big printer.How big of a print can this thing do?- It's pretty big.So you're actually looking at it.It's about 15x13x18 inches.- Dang. But how much did it cost?- Yeah, it's a bit.You're looking at about $250,000.- Well, that is a chunk of change.So this is curing layer bylayer with laser, right?- With lasers. Yeah, yeah.So it's just heating thepowder close to melting, yeah.And then you've got a laser up here,you've actually got this laser window.So we clean that every build.The laser will shine through there.You've got a couplemirrors over here, X and Y,and that just dictates each cross sectionYour print bed's right in the middle.So these are actually loadedall the way up with powder.So they're bottomed down over here,and every layer they'llcome up by a layer height.And at the same time thiswill go down a layer height.So once it's all done printing,if we do an 18 inch build,18 inches of powder is down here.That's probably, I don't know,150, 200 parts buried in here.So this actually just gotpulled out of the printermaybe an hour, hour and a half ago.Here's one of the parts.I mean it still has powder on it,but all of this powder will come offand underneath it is the part,and we'll just bead blast itand you've got a partready to go at the end.- Very freaking cool.(funky pop music)- Yeah.- This is the future.- This is actually a new material.Yeah, so this is called Victrix AM 200,it's a peak based material.Every material out there kind of,you want high temp, there's that material.You want chemical resistance,that's that material.Peak is the one material thatactually hits all of them.- So you could feasiblyprint something like this,print a bunch of 'em, and sell'em as an end product, right?This material is durable enoughand good enough to be usedin an automotive application?- Yeah.- That's awesome.- So you don't have to goand cut this on a CNC, fabricate it.You can print it and printit with a bunch of partsand throw it right into a vehicle.- Especially for car guys and stuff.As you have an older car or something,you can't get a part anymore,well, you can just print it.Just like this, this isa dash piece printed.And you can see it,it's textured just likean original dash piece.And I know you guys maybe haveseen a cracked dash or twolike I have.You could just print a new one.All right, tell me about this thing.We've got a pretty sweetlooking pedal box set up herethat looks to be pretty much all printedexcept for this bit here.- It's just nylon 12but 10% build with chopped carbon fiber.And that's what kind ofgives it that matte look.The finish to it.- Feels very durable.I mean, is this somethingyou could actually like run in a car?- Yeah. Yeah.- That's incredible.- If you considered 3Dprinting 10 years agothis would seem crazy,and even think 20 years ago,this is mind blowing, it's really cool.(chill pop rock music)- All right, so what do we got here?- So this is an SLA part.We took your same file, printedit on this machine as well.So this is printing in resin.You need supports with this oneand it's printed inone of the fastest SLAresins out there right now.This was done in about an hour and a half.- Well, let's see if wecan break these off the bedand clean 'em up a little bit(dark synthwave music)- Each one has kind of adifferent processing workflow.SLA is one of the ones, it'sa little bit more intensive.- Yeah, for after the print?- After the print.(dark synthwave music)- Look at us.Well Adnan, thanks for showing us around,showing us some awesome printing stuff.Moonshot 3D, you got aawesome business here.So if you got any 3D printing needs,hit up Adnan at Moonshot and yeah,hope you guys enjoyed this episode,learned a thing or two about 3D printing.If you did, go ahead andsmash that Like button,throw down a comment,and you can follow meon Instagram @zachjobe,follow Donut @donutmedia.So if you wanna win this sweetDonut name plate we printedthat also fits in the350Z climate control spot,then join the Donut Undergroundby hitting the Join button down belowand we're gonna givethis away right there.See you guys later.