S4 E1 - Apple A17 Pro - what does it tell us about M3

**Apple Event Review: What We Learned**

The Apple event was recently held, and we were there to witness it live. The event saw Apple announce several new products, including the Watch Series 8 and Watch Ultra 2. However, one of the most significant takeaways from the event was the price drops for these watches.

**Price Drops: A Win for UK Buyers**

The prices for the Watch Series 8 have dropped significantly since their release. The watch, which was initially priced at £479, is now available for £399, saving UK buyers a whopping £80. Similarly, the Watch Ultra 2 has also seen a price drop from £849 to £799, with an additional £50 off the already discounted price of £749. These price drops are significant, and they will undoubtedly bring joy to Apple fans in the UK who were struggling with the cost of living.

**The Titanium Finish: A Misstep?**

One of the features that was expected to be a major selling point for the Watch Series 8 was the titanium finish. However, it appears that this feature did not justify the increased price tag. In fact, Apple has stuck with its traditional surgical-grade steel construction, which is already known for its durability and resistance to corrosion. This decision will likely come as a surprise to many fans of the watch, who were expecting a premium material at a premium price.

**A Shift in Strategy?**

The decision not to increase the price of the Watch Series 8 despite the titanium finish has raised questions about Apple's strategy. It appears that the company is prioritizing sales over profit margins, which could be seen as a sign of a more relaxed approach to pricing in the future. This shift in strategy may also have implications for other products in the Apple lineup.

**Inflation and the Cost of Living**

The price drops on the Watch Series 8 and Ultra 2 are also significant because they come at a time when many people in the UK are struggling with the cost of living. The rising prices of everything from housing to food to transportation have made it difficult for many families to make ends meet. Apple's decision to cut prices may be seen as a welcome relief by some, and it highlights the importance of keeping costs affordable.

**The Future of iPhone Upgrades**

Another significant takeaway from the Apple event was the announcement that there will not be a major upgrade to the iPhone 15 series this year. Instead, existing iPhone users are being encouraged to stick with their current devices rather than upgrading to new models. This approach may seem counterintuitive, but it has the potential to reduce electronic waste and make our planet a more sustainable place.

**A New Era for Podcasts**

The Apple event also marked an important milestone in the world of podcasts. The company announced that it will be returning to its main channel after previously using a separate channel to host its podcast. This decision is likely to have a significant impact on the way we consume podcasts, and it may lead to more innovative and engaging content in the future.

**What's Next for Our Podcast?**

Finally, our podcast team wants to hear from you! We're committed to making this show for our listeners, and we want to know what you'd like to see more of. Whether it's more Apple news, tech reviews, or just general banter between our hosts, we're open to all ideas. So be sure to check out the comment section on our latest episode and let us know what's on your mind.

**A Final Word from Our Hosts**

As we wrap up this article, we want to say thank you to Ben and Aaron for joining us at the Apple event live. Their insights and commentary were invaluable, and we're grateful to have them as part of our podcast team. And finally, a word of advice: don't rush out to upgrade your iPhone just because there's a new model available. Take some time to think about whether you really need it, and consider the environmental impact of your purchasing decisions. It's a simple thing, but one that could make all the difference in the world.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enforeign yes Pete um you know my two turtles Tyler and Bonnie no I've got two turtles I've been trying to breed it's not going too well it was going well at one time I thought they were falling in love but now it just seems they're falling apart um I don't know what to do it's a turtle Eclipse of the Heart don't laugh at him don't encourage him I liked how long it was it was a really long joke with with a really Naf punchline can I just say thanks that's okay that's kind of half of the course it is yeah well welcome back everybody we're we're back we are indeed back a constant GQ podcast and we shall call this season four episode one because that's what it is it is indeed and coming up in the show today we're going to be talking about Apple's event that's just happened the wonderlust event and uh the new iPhones new Apple watches uh we're going to be asking what the new a17 Pro chip means for M3 and also there's some good news finally for UK buyers so all of that coming up first of all it's nice uh nice to be back Pete it's been a long time it has I've forgotten what you look like that must have been good for you it was a blessing and now it's all traumatized back but never mind you've got the same problem on the other other side of the actually I have to look at you and also I have to look at Aaron who's right opposite me Aaron's here everybody I'm here I'm gonna improve this book are you gonna improve it by talking into your microphone though or are you gonna just yeah well I don't know it's like here okay yeah that should be fine yeah and all expense has indeed been spared because we have one microphone between you and Ben so yeah I love it good and uh Ben's here everybody so you look at that seamless just turn the Micron hello Ben salutations excellent Ben's my son what most people probably don't realize is that Ben does most of the editing on the constant geekery Channel and asked to put up with uh with me fluffing my lines and doing terrible jokes and things like that he must have the patience of a scene that's all I'm saying he does he does a grand job well then Ben not even 16 yet so you're not no what a legend wow good that's enough of that how are you Erin my fingers I've got bruised fingers because I did like a blood test and you have to like stab your fingers and now they're bruised like you have to like milk like your fingers of blood sorry no no no hang on hang on just stop there remember you have to do what to your fingers you have to milk them that's what I said something like oh what does that look like it's hard you have to like rub your hand like this to make up a blood go in this little tube it's really gross are you sure you were reading the right instructions for the right thing you had just bought a dairy farm or something did you get this off of eBay or was it an official medical NHS Medical and basically a doctor they probably got off eBay they probably did ah well thank you for that thanks for sharing Aaron anytime and uh liking the outfit today thank you it's my outfit well what the viewers won't be able to see is that you're in in full denim today double denim double denim the perfect outfit combination and under the denim I can't help but notice that you're wearing a neck curtain just just let me enjoy an outfit for once there's no need for it my mum said that I look like a pirate it's just a confidence boost I needed but you are thanks mum are you able to do a pirate accent for us our new Apple stuff wow it was like I was transported back in time onto some pirate ship somewhere it's just so authentic it was quite a seamless segue though into new Apple stuff new Apple stuff yeah all kind of new Apple stuff what I will say is that um before we before we get too far into the Apple stuff or indeed into it at all um the the podcast and we will put chapters in the description for those of you who don't want to listen to us waffle although that is sort of the point of a podcast I think so probably and we do do some waffling all we do and I've forgotten even what I was gonna say you were gonna say something about the podcast and chapters yeah so we um we stopped doing the podcast because we were finding it impossible to do it on a weekly basis so um it's taken us a long time to get some energy back to do it it won't be on a weekly basis I think we've got to say that um partly because I'm not here for the next like three or four weeks anyway so Erin celebrate you had a mad busy period with our web business DP so you are available to do stuff and then we made the decision to refit the studio so hopefully you like what you're seeing it's not finished yet uh and we certainly haven't finished playing around with the lighting and there's a panel behind Ben there that's uh not finished yet and it's very heavy so just be careful it doesn't fall over onto your head Aaron I mean it would make this a lot more fun wouldn't it be like a cool little it'd be some kind of content restriction on though and we wouldn't we wouldn't want anything to happen to you we wouldn't that sounds like lies anyway how did you get out of your prison cell uh I've got like a paper clip and they'll say bribe the card so that's quite good okay okay we paid for a guard not very much clearly not enough so anyway here here we have an Apple event how excited were you before the Apple event Pete uh do you want me to do it on a scale of one to ten yes please I was probably a five or a six okay and then as the event started sort of five minutes into the event I'd only come across as negative but maybe a five or a six okay and then maybe half an hour into the event probably a five or a six okay and when they were really talking up the environmental stuff oh oh well that was a highlight so probably a five or a six good it was it was a very vanilla event is what I'm getting at it was a little bit um there is not a massive massive Leap Forward is there in in anything that they were talking about no I mean Apple have always been about the marketing haven't they they've always been good with their marketing but that felt like a very long drawn out event for not a great deal of actual product news yeah I saw somebody on Twitter said that all of that could have been done by a press release yes I sort of agree with yeah but that's not the way they do things anymore no um so let's talk about it it starts off rather predictably and I think I did predict that it would be the Apple watch Saved My Life segment to get started yeah which we we joke about but if if you were one of the people it's one of those things isn't it some of these features on the Apple watch are a bit like Insurance you hope you never need it it's not a particularly exciting thing but if you do need it you're very grateful you've got it absolutely and there was a few examples of those who had um where the the Apple watch were detected high heart rate you know and that prompted them to seek medical help and uncovered other issues so that was nice and a couple of guys who use the SOS satellite thing which I understand is now available in the UK it is so do you have that now on your your Apple watch Ultra version one I don't I've not looked into it because I've not really been hanging off a mountain there aren't that many mountains in England to hang off In fairness no and I'm not normally a hanger offer of things there aren't many bears either no but if I ever got cornered by one in my bedroom then you could maybe get help yeah maybe um but yeah it's it's one of those features that we we do tend to mock it a little bit but actually it's it's a really good thing if you're in a situation where you need it and we're going to talk about how they've extended that in a bit I guess so um my Apple watch gave me a heart rate warning the other day did it it's a high heart rate really yeah do you know where it did it were you exercising I was not I was I was traveling and it was on Friday oh okay so we had a little company outing didn't we we did so we took uh our staff up to to London did you enjoy your day in London Aaron I had a wonderful time it was so English and we we did a fair amount of walking I think it's fair to say A Little Piece of Me in London it was good fun my Apple watch told me I bought 10 miles in London I definitely felt that the next day but that's not the point of the Apple watch story it was on the bus on the way homes we'd charted or hired a a bus and the driver starts yawning part way on the journey home and the frequency of the yawning is increasing and the his speed is becoming a bit more erratic and his steering not you know how like when you've got a road with two lanes yeah yeah he was very liberal about um being in both of them at the same time I was making good use of the road he was using all of the road and I'm like I guess my heart rate was obviously High because I was under under stress I'm watching him like a hawk at the front of the bus in the end I I told him that he had to pull over did he uh well he attempted to but then he sort of crashed the bus into a curb and which woke everyone up on on the bus I don't even know why I'm asking if he did it because I was on the same bus so I know he did but I was asleep and that did wake me up yeah it's like a lay-by and there's a curb to sort of split the lay-by from the from the road and we're on a long straight road and he just didn't see it at all and just drove straight over it at 70 miles an hour whatever it was or maybe if your eyes are closed you wouldn't see it no it's ridiculous anyway we uh we did get him to pull over and got him outside where he had a cigarette and then he was super vigilant for the next 40 miles that's good that's good but it is interesting going back to the point that you're you're watching noticed an increase in your heart rate so it works yeah obviously that wasn't for a for a health reason could have been for a health reason if he'd have crashed and killed us all or could it have been a false flag Could you actually have a health reason that you now think was just panicked coach driving when actually you know you've got a problem I didn't think about that so if I drop that at some point then you'll know it wasn't a bus well it might not be you might drop dead for other reasons excellent it's like well that's that's um some pretty good insights for for the viewers and listeners um let's uh move on to Mac because Mr cook made out like he was going to talk Mac got excited about that didn't we we thought oh is there going to be some kind of Mac announcement and all he did was said we've launched our fastest Max and um and talked up the 15-inch MacBook Air which is apparently now the most popular laptop in the lineup which is probably Fair well they are very good I have to say I've done a review of one on the channel because I've got one for my wife just the entry level model and I have to say what a fantastic laptop yeah you're pleased with it she's pleased with it yeah I shouldn't use it that much In fairness but I I played with it for a bit and I yeah it's nice nice screen nice good size you like a slightly larger laptop I've got a 14 inch MacBook Pro at the moment I find it a tad on the small side it's fine but I will say actually the I like a smaller laptop but sometimes I just like to have two apps side by side and it's just not quite large enough on the 14 inch whereas the 15 inches yeah absolutely I can imagine that if they made a 15 inch MacBook Pro I'd probably get that one like they did in the past yeah got the massive one or the little one yeah um they did uh just highlight they'd completed the Apple silicon transition which we already knew about anyway and then they were talking about Vision Pro and hype in that and saying that they're still on target to deliver early in 2024. yeah and of course with WWDC where that was announced they were obviously briefing developers on stuff that they could then build using Vision Pro and they've they've reported back that they're excited or Tim's reported back that he's excited with some of the things that they're being shown so I I am interested to see what will be developed because it's a bit like when the iPhone was released there was suddenly all these things that developers could do using the the iPhone ecosystem and Vision Pro is is another thing like the watch where you've got different applications different sensors so I'm very intrigued to see what they do with it beyond the obvious yeah I'm looking forward to it um I don't know that we're gonna buy one though they're quite expensive aren't they for what is a fairly singularly focused device yeah I I can't see I can't see the benefit but then you never know I mean you've got to try how many that's that's the thing well if an app comes along that allows you to sort of Video Edit I mean imagine if you've got a timeline if you can go into DaVinci or Final Cut Pro in The Vision Pro and then you can look at a timeline going all the way over like that wouldn't that be amazing yeah I'm not convinced it's necessary but yeah that'd be interesting it would be it is necessary I think it'd be fantastic to for Cinema for watching movies if the battery lasted a bit longer but um unless you're watching quite a short movie it's not going to cut it I think it's under two hours battery life how does that sound I do because I have the Oculus Quest first one and the battery life on that was pretty decent um and I used to be able to watch movies on that as well and the price point of apple one is just wild compared to that so how do you get on with VR I love VR I think it's brilliant absolutely love it it doesn't make you want to puke I was all good with it yeah I got like slightly motion because of course we on the channel we reviewed some um glasses that project a monitor in front of you and I actually found that made me a bit queasy at times as well so I I'm not very good with it Ben you um you'd like to play a bit of VR I do would you like to try the Apple Vision Pro do you see I I don't really see a point in it I'll be honest I I don't think I'd have application for it because I have a VR headset myself as well and I think it does enough and with it likely going to be costing best part of three thousand pounds you might have to save up for a little while yeah yeah and I don't disagree with any of those things particularly the price point but one of the things Apple has always been very good at is taking a product that's already in the market or a the type of product that's already in the market and claiming they invented it no sorry carry on people no they do do that but they then they then take it to a point where it becomes part of day-to-day use now I'm not necessarily saying that the Vision Pro is that next device but you think about the iPad in fact let's start with the iPhone there were touch screens before that the Nokia n95 was the one I was looking at before the iPhone came out do you remember that and then the iPhone came out and that was really the basis for every phone we have now which is something we're going to talk about a bit later same with the iPad others have tried to do a tablet and it hadn't worked even even the Apple watch has been something that is now much more commonly accepted I'm not saying that there weren't good ones before but Apple are very good at seeing how people use a product and then just developing the sort of the the full answer to that product yeah I think they are and it's easy to we like to poke a bit of fun at Apple I mean we use Apple products we give them a lot of our money so it's nice it's nice to have a balanced view of them and I can remember when the iPad was launched and it got mercilessly mocked because of the name you know everyone was saying it sounded like a feminine hygiene product and uh we did mock it but when iPad 2 came out you know I was there at the moment of launch to go and buy one so it was very quick to go from a product that was kind of like no one's ever going who's going to want a big iPhone kind of to a big iPod or whatever you need to um this product that everybody had to have so Apple has done that stuff of course we're a long way down the road now and the innovation has kind of happened and now we're more into iteration rather than Innovation whatever um Apple would like us to believe but let's let's talk Apple watch if we can yeah so meet the new Apple watch same as the old Apple watch pretty much uh well it looks the same it does it's got a new color hasn't it Erin do you like the pink the shade I wish it was like a hot pink I've always Tim never gives me what I want you know done I'll take a I'll take a pastel pink for now but hot pink next time please Tim he's taking one like a hot thing no but you said something a pastel pink dude yeah it's a pastel pink passed out it's fine isn't it passed out pink I think is so um but yeah so it looks pretty much the same it does it's got a new chip in it though hasn't it yes which they're calling the S S9 it has no GPU for um animations are slightly better do you find on your Apple watch that the animations are a bit laggy I I gotta be honest I I'm not really a big Apple watch user I've been wearing mine of late um because I'm interested in in monitoring heart rate um but I yeah I I'm this works fine this is a series six and the only downside to it is I managed to crack the um non-replaceable plastic front I think they are Sapphire now aren't they so they're A Bit Stronger Yeah Yeah but so I can't take it in the water anymore can I go swimming with this now that kind of defeats the object a little bit because you swim quite a lot to me no I do yeah um so then we've got also in the chip is if it had machine learning calls before but it has four machine learning cores and neural engine and this is to power Siri which is now working on device yeah for the most common things but not everything yeah so what this means is if you don't have a Wi-Fi or a Cellular Connection then you'll you'll actually be able to use Siri so so that's progress I guess one might say that and uh no one's ever done that before on device voice assistant didn't um just going back to Windows phone wasn't Cortana on this oh would you just stop with the windows phone it's not come it's dead it was not coming back it was so good though because you could actually dictate a text message whilst you're driving through an area with no phone coverage and it would still work whereas the iPhone never did do you know what annoys me about Siri is that you can you can dictate a message but if it can't get a connection when you when you're driving it won't say I'll hold that until I've got a signal so you might have sent or composed a very long message and it says I'm sorry I'm having trouble with the connection what would be really really nice this would be really Innovative apple is to just say do you want me to send that when I have a connection again yes please Siri do that I mean how hard must that be so does it just just forget it so I've activated Siri on my Apple iPad so yeah it just forgets it and you have to re-re-dictate it well they are saying that dictation is improved by 25 percent I don't know I mean Apple were very fast and loose with the percentages and improvements aren't they so but improved dictation um some Health Data are also accessible via Siri as well yeah so you could say things like how how long did I sleep last night or things like that as opposed to sort of thinking about you know what time did I go to bed and get to sleep and when did I wake up I'm so old school how did we know how we slept before Apple it's a mystery uh 18 hours of of battery life do it I feel like that's six hours shorter where it all to be at least I mean I don't have that problem because I got the ultra well you know good for you um it's good and do you have you found that your um left bicep is much bigger now after carrying the the ultra it's absolutely fine okay it's actually quite a reassuring weight something they have added to to the which is a second generation Ultra wideband chip yeah so you can now use your Apple watch to Ping your phone and find it with high degree of accuracy yes which is great if you've lost your phone although I did think you know Tim did mention we never leave for home without our phone and if we do we go back and get it you did say that so I'm not sure how often that will be used but maybe maybe some people are more likely to ah yes I'm going to jump in here and say I lose my phone in my bedroom like 24 7. because I just like put it down somewhere and then I left it in the fridge the other day yeah sorry sorry what you did what with your phone I was making a sandwich and I went to I was like watching stuff on my phone as I was making my sandwich because um and then I put the butter back in the fridge shut it and then spent like five minutes trying to find my phone and then open the fridge and it was just on top of the butter and I've done that before as well that's not even like a first time in the fridge kind of thing just out of Interest did someone call you and you just picked up the butter and put it to your ear hello yeah um I can't just say what kind of masochist puts butter in the fridge what are you just eating like warm butter well then you can spread it yeah as opposed to like dragging a piece of freezing cold butter across your toast and ripping the bread apart but it's spreadable lacto free butter okay so it's not so it's not good it's spread it is butter which is the worst butter it's the worst word isn't it would you like some spread of your bread it's like no I wouldn't give me some butter so I was going to tell you a story then about a restaurant that I went to with with a butter issue but I'm not going to because that's not about Apple let's get back to the point and Erin seriously why do we employ you I just because enjoy your happiness to the company you actually just admit it to us so that you put your phone in the fridge yeah well you guys are such good friends to me you won't use that in any way so and we won't we won't put it on the internet where it potentially tens of thousands of people will find out about your your fridge rabbits your milky fingers thank you that's your freezing cold food I suppose you probably get better performance when you put it in the fridge you might do actually yeah that's true it's true processes work better when they're cold it might reset the battery Aaron's battery life is probably amazing well you heard it here first top tip keep your phone in the fridge yeah there you go um let's just cover off the other the other bits there's something about it syncing up with homepod I don't use homepod so I can't comment on that why are you pointing at me oh the pinch gesture you know that's that's always been there no it hasn't it has it's part of the accessibility settings of your watch you can clench your an unclench so if you switch on accessibility please don't use the word clench again on the book on the podcast it depends what you're clenching Pete um I'm talking about hands here detect if you were milking your fingers oh that's handy yeah yeah it was great imagine the Microsoft desk it looks like you're milking your fingers do you want help with that it'll be like the hand washing thing whatever it will say you haven't milked them enough going ah okay finger tap gesture though so it's something that's been part of the accessibility settings but they are formalizing it now I think actually the stuff in the accessibility wasn't specifically a double tap and it wasn't hugely reliable so they've obviously improved it yeah they did say that they're using a combination of biometric signals to determine and learn and this is where the machine learning course come in again to be able to detect the the tap gesture that your your own wrist and hand generates so it should get better over time which is quite clever yeah is it something you think you would use I do I do think it's one of those things that we will mark and I'm not planning to get one of these new new watches um but when when the time comes for a new one I suspect it will be the sort of thing like I often put this I press one of the buttons on my phone to snooze my alarm in the morning and just being able to do that I can see that becoming second nature and to hang up a phone call maybe I could see it becoming something you do for certain actions not probably everything that you can program it for you know you're just going to see loads of people now walking down the street doing the the tap I reckon there's a whole business to be had there in making sock puppets for those people okay do you do you remember what was the name of the sock puppet on red dwarf I don't remember Mr flipple was it Mr flipple I don't know yeah what I do know Pete is that you know we traditionally do most of our business ventures together but that's one I won't be joining you on this oh I'll let you I'll let you do your own sock puppets I've got another business idea that we'll talk about in a minute as well okay all right really look forward to that uh the screen is brighter so it can go all the way up to 2000 nits which I believe is twice the number of nits that you've got in the S8 but it can also go down can't it can to one one one knit so if you're in a very dark very dark space like almost like a dungeon airing or like a locked room then you would still be able to tell the time if you had an Apple Watch do you have an Apple Watch I don't have an Apple watch um so then we had to sit through a whole bunch of environmental cringe can I just ask before we move on do you do you get an itchy head when someone starts talking about knits no okay it's just me yeah did you just really do the knits joke again have I already done that joke in the past you probably have you'll have forgotten obviously being as elderly As You Are something I I was going to say earlier and I forgot to so because you're elderly probably um is that some people were feeding back on our old podcast and there was there was a small here's a small percentage Aaron small percentage of people who didn't like the way that we you know give you give you abuse on the on the podcast yes because you're really really mean no it's because they are laboring under the illusion that you're really you know a nice person really innocent that you don't you know I would say she is a nice person I will go on there as saying that but she is brutal I will say you guys can't keep giving net jokes because both of you are losing your hair oh there it is oh let's see honestly folks if any of you on the old podcast thought that we were we were dishing out to Aaron believe me she can give it back and we're trying to encourage her to do that on the podcast on the podcast Erin I'm a podcast you'd have to do it like all the time well you know I'm quite sensitive about my hair I can't believe that good you would say something so mean and cruel which one I'm writing this down in my notes as points to bring up more often you're giving away all your weak spots don't do that I wouldn't have said it if I really meant it um environmental stuff yeah so we sort of had to sit through quite a bit of this and I always find myself taking a bit of a negative view of it because at the end of the day we're talking about a company that's sold as ssds into MacBooks and I've tried to cover this on the channel and a lot of viewers don't really get what I'm trying to say with this but um so I think it's worth just talking about for a moment I I I think it's a terrible thing to do to soldering an SSD because if your SSD fails for any reason your whole machine is toast and they can fail um typically in an apple machine when the older Intel machines if it failed it was because the power chip supplied power to the SSD went wrong and supplied too much voltage to the SSD and fried it the ssds themselves are completely reliable this is the annoying thing if if nothing goes wrong like that and bear in mind only a tiny percentage are faults but for the majority of machines it will Outlast all of the rest of the components of the machine but that doesn't matter because if you're the one who's got a failed one that's gutting to lose your your whole machine and if you're out of warranty the usual stupidity applies where basically apple is going to throw away a perfectly good machine because of this design choice now how can you claim to be environmentally friendly at the same time as doing that and being so obstructive with repairs of laptops I get where you're coming from and I've got an interesting thought on right to repair that will come to you a bit later um but I think you've you've kind of argued yourself out of this by saying it's such a small percentage yes it is gutting if you're one of the ones that is affected by it it's really annoying but you've got to look at the bigger bigger picture and the numbers haven't you I suppose if you're talking about Apple's overall environmental credentials then yes but uh I still think it's it's dumb and it's unnecessary and apple themselves have proved it that it's unnecessary because if you buy the Mac Studio the nunchip is a replaceable device yeah but at the same time if if they am I right in saying that if they didn't solder the SSD on then you're going to make the chassis of the MacBooks thicker I don't believe that personally I think they could do it okay so why you think it's a cynical thing to stop you being able to repair it yourself um well I think Apple would put it under the guise of security and there's another issue that goes on here which is happening on a wide scale and that is when corporates get rid of their stock of computers and because they can't just take the hard drives out which is what they would used to do you'd have the IT department would remove the the hard drive or the SSD whatever and then they would hire some company to do the disposals and what they would then do is refer a bit a new drive in and sell it on yeah um Apple devices you can't do that on which means somebody would have to sit there and zero out all of the drives and they can't be bothered so they hand them off to these companies and when these companies get them they can't actually do anything because invariably they're locked with the Apple ID and so they can't even get access to the machine you can't boot it from an external device they can't replace the SSD so they're left with this situation where they can't actually do anything with it and they can't dismantle it for parts and sell the parts on the second-hand Market because Apple will actively go after anybody who's doing that interesting it has to be turned into powder you know it has to be pulverized and and recycled through Apple's approved recycling chain and I just think what a shocking waste of these computers can go on for years and years and years and yet corporations what how what are they going to do three to five years they're going to be turfing these things out and sometimes even less than that and you've got perfectly good machines going into the scrap and you know you have some good points there and maybe that is something that Apple do have in the pipeline is the recognition of that maybe maybe they will just say well you know in the Modern Age you do turn them back into powder but that does seem very wasteful I think the environmental stuff I've seen I've seen some posts on LinkedIn about it this morning so I'm loading it that little mother nature skit that everyone took part in um others mocking it a little bit and I thought it was a bit cringy that the skit but I thought about it after we watched it and they're clearly trying to do something um and this is a step in the right direction it's one product lineup just the Apple watch isn't it but they're clearly trying I think they went on a bit too much about it but um and the other thing is we don't know how big this is in the scheme of things because they're saying oh we've done this many billions some things I can't even remember there was that they said they'd done billions not millions of but how much is that compared to the rest of what Apple's doing as such a large corporation around the planet yeah so they actually put this segment in between Apple Watch series 9 and Apple watch Ultra 2. and of course we realized towards the end of the the sequence is that they're only talking about Apple watch however I think it is really cool that if you buy an Apple Watch series 9 with a sport Loop specifically then that is a carbon neutral product yeah well that's that's a fantastic achievement that is laudable yeah so I you know it's great I just you know the right to repair and everything else we just wish that uh Apple was a bit more open like that now what they did surprisingly make a comment about the iPhone and its replaceable glass back on the the pro model and how that you know can be easily replaced keeping the iPhone going for longer I think that's the first time I've really heard Apple talking about that kind of thing yeah they also mentioned something else I know we're going to sort of segue into the iPhone in a minute but obviously one of the things we're going to talk about is the connectivity which we'll go into more detail on the in a minute but I did see someone this morning I can't even remember what out that it was on saying well that's a load of lightning cables that are going to be put in landfill and it's like well first of all no it's not because not everyone's going to go out and replace them straight away they're not going to throw them away because there'll always be some device hanging around the house with it in and and secondly have you ever known the lightning cable to last more than 12 months they will die mine do but I take meticulous care of my stuff so um anyway so that here's my next business side here recyclemycable.com yeah okay so you know send it to someone who can then process it down because there are valuable things in the cable um metals and all that kind of stuff or you know you resell on the cable to someone who needs it yeah and if Apple were supporting longer life spans of of products then those things go on for a long time and I think they should do that because Apple makes its money most of its money shortly from selling apps and services and skimming off on every time you use Apple pay they're taking a chunk yeah so is it not in their interest to have a thriving used market for their products because all of those customers whilst they haven't paid Apple for the device they will be paying Apple for all the other stuff that's a really good point and and they did make as well as holding its value I don't know if you noticed there was a lot of push for trading trade in on if you're trade in this phone you'll get quite a lot back towards your new phone well what's going to happen to those phones they're going to be sold as refurbished I I would expect they'll be kept as Replacements or soldiers refurbished it's possible when they'll be sold as three first or ground down and recycled all that yeah anyway I'm conscious of time let's move on Apple watch Ultra too I don't think there's much to say about this it looks like apple it's identical from a chassis point of view identical slightly brighter screen 3000 nits I I have to say if you're thinking about getting one and you've got well you'll know if you've already got an ultra watch I've never thought the screen is not bright enough under any conditions I've used it in yet so I spent most people won't notice that I thought it's quite nice um to get the Bluetooth accessories for cycling so you can put Cadence Sensor on your bike and connect it up to your watch Ultra that's quite cool I wasn't paying attention at that point but yes okay so Apple watch Ultra 2 is a thing and I think again there is one particular strap that you can buy that with and you get again it's a a carbon neutral product yes so well done apple good let's talk about iPhone oh was there any new iPhones I I will quote directly they said about the iPhone 15 an all-new design what has got slightly more contoured edges and it's got that nice textured infused glass back and that's that's kind of cool yeah I thought that was great because it's going to be less fingerprints and probably you're going to have a better grip on it if you don't put a case on it yeah but of course everyone's going to put a case on it so um because they're so expensive we'll come to pricing at the end and they're like I said there is some good news for for UK buyers Dynamic Island comes to iPhone 15 it seems like Apple's going all in on that so we're stuck with Dynamic Island for a bit yeah it's I've not used it because I've got my iPhone 13 at the moment so I don't know it seems to be a bit of a Marmite thing some people love it some people hate it I wonder if it's a bit like the notch on the the MacBook after a while you just don't notice yeah I guess um the display as a super retina xdr OLED slightly brighter than it used to be and that's about as far as we need to talk about that it's two sizes 6.1 inch 6.7 inch in the plus and the colors which color would you have Eric um I'd probably go for the blue or the pink one um I was thinking what about you Ben if you were gonna go for one of these iPhones what color would you black black excellent good choice they are all a bit Pastor Lee sorry pastali still um but you know some people are going to really love that and changing the colors each year is classic marketing trick isn't it to keep people definitely changing and and don't don't forget the increase in battery life was there one yeah yeah so the standard 15 has 20 hours with video feedback or should I say up to 20 hours with video video of video playback right the 15 plus 26 hours and that's three more hours over the iPhone 12. the iPhone 12 that's what it says on the website excellent that's that's quite a few phones ago yeah yeah at least three interesting I wonder why that is I'm sure you'll let us know in the comments um incidentally if you fancy leaving a comment on the podcast in future episodes of the podcast we will feature some of those comments and uh so if you've got questions and stuff we will feature those as a section and do answers give you a shout out on the podcast um something else this phone gets is and some people have basically been saying yeah this is last year's Pro which is not far from the truth it's got the same chip it's the a16 bar neck and it's now got the 48 megapixel sensor which is a quad pixel sensor so you're actually getting 12 megapixel images of it yep but with those extra picture pictures I'm inventing new words pixels with those extra pixels you can better evaluate light so in low light conditions you get a better quality image that kind of thing yeah um that's great I mean it seems to me that the main focus of a smartphone these days is the camera yeah I was looking back on photos that I've taken on the many iPhones I've had since my first one which I think was a five possibly a four and iPhone's always taking good picture and actually there's many other smartphones out there that take really good pictures as well um but you you can see a noticeable improvement over time in terms of you know uh color richness depth just the overall quality of the image and also I don't know if you've noticed now we just take it for granted because it what we're seeing is iterations now small increments so you have to go back quite a few years to see a difference but it's not just the quality of the images it's the speed with which you can get your camera out now and take a really good what we call a snap you know you're not you're not thinking the first phones are quite relatively speaking slow and you still had to really think about getting the image right whereas now you take a picture and you think oh it's blurred give it a second for the ml computational photography to go through and bang actually it's not very very clever so none of us in the mass Market are professional photographers but it is giving us better quality memories and experiences in our day-to-day life so I think that's a good thing yeah it is and that's what it's all about isn't it these these devices are sort of the hub for your life these days so a good camera is good um something that they've done that I think is quite useful is you've got two times Zoom all they're doing is cropping the sensor to get that but you still get a 12 megapixel image but it is um pixel per pixel you know it's a it's a proper full resolution 12 megapixel image yeah which is which is great yeah and they're also now capturing a depth map with each photo so what this means is that afterwards if you if you've detected it it'll detect if there's someone in the shot and capture a depth map so that afterwards you can turn it into a portrait photo if you want to you know this is this AI artificial blurring of the background I think you can do Post Focus as well yeah I don't I didn't pick up and I haven't checked maybe this is something for you to just check now Ben I thought that was a pro only feature the post Focus you know they did definitely mention it for the other one did they though they did did they so you've got the a16 bionic the other thing that's gone into the phone is a second generation Ultra wide bandship just like in the watch so your you you now with find me you your stalking performance is is much improved that's tongue-in-cheek folks and and I use the app to um you know the whole family were on the find my app it's kind of useful to know where each other is but I do I do call the app stalk my wife so I can see where she is at any time it is really useful though isn't it if you you sort of like getting ready to go out and you're waiting for someone to come home from a certain location to get a little notification when they leave if you're cooking dinner or something like that that's good that's great yeah good could you find any information on that pin on the post Focus stuff I do believe it's on all iPhone 15s told you excellent that's what you said in it that's exactly what I said I think if you rewind it that's what you'll find I said that's what it was um so we we've just been talking about how your telephone can take great photos but what always seems to be missing from these uh events is how's the quality of your phone calls yes and just as I was thinking it this time they started talking about it so now they're using machine learning to do voice isolation on phone calls it sounds very impressive it did very useful I would say yeah because how many times do you have that when you're in a noisy environment and someone can't hear you the only thing I thought about it was a really good demonstration but it doesn't work of course you can still hear that environment so it can be difficult to hear your own thoughts if you're in a noisy environment but obviously there are times when you need to make that call so that's a great feature very cool the other thing I've got noted down before the obvious Peak changes emergency SOS via satellite is in the phone and it says two years free and it's not available all over the world but it is available in the UK now yep so since we're in the UK that's kind of useful and the roadside assistance feature as well using the same technology yeah but only available in the states as we understand at the moment and you get it if you've got a triple a membership I say so this is via satellite roadside assistance device yeah yeah um so that's all good now of course the the big change that everyone knew was coming because the EU demanded it is that uh they moved to uspc now um we've been thinking about this new section for the podcast yes we don't have a jingle yet Aaron I'd like Pete to just hum one that's all right Pete could you could you come here a jingle we're going to call this segment Erin explains yeah and we will get a jingle but I am happy to hum one for now we've got this cool new mixer thing with with all sorts of effects so we could do something like oh that's pretty cool that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good did that actually say Aaron explains well that's what I said oh did you say it and I I said it well swell's putting a filter on oh can I have it can I have a go yeah let me let me choose a fill let me choose a filter that's appropriate for you hang on Aaron explains he's not working on me well can we please have you for the rest of the podcast speaking like one of the Chipmunks Look let's get on with it Aaron explains hello I'm Aaron you may have noticed me earlier in the podcast and I'm gonna explain USBC have you got notes on your phone yeah I've got notes on my phone because this is the level of confidence you should have dear viewers and listeners it's gonna be amazing okay Aaron what does USB stand for why would you say that I don't you know that I don't know that so have break it down what do you think the U stands for and please don't say umbrella Universal very good there you go she knows her stuff let's hurry up right USBC has more power so for normal lightning cable which is on most iPhones at the moment uh can carry a 2.4 a current whereas a USBC can carry a 3A current up to a 5A current so that's pretty neat okay so what does the A stand for why are you asking me questions you know that I don't know isn't your dad an electrician have you learned nothing you're meant to be explaining things it just means that it's more powerful I was getting onto it yeah the only downside to this is and I realize Aaron that you're about to come onto this because you've done all your research is that the iPhone still charges at the same rate despite having USBC they haven't taken advantage of that extra power so as far as I'm aware it's still going to take as long to charge right so my entire segment is just destroyed Adventure I'm not responsible I think you've just ruined little my little Aaron exit right here we go okay that means the USBC charger on the phone can charge your phone quicker but apparently that's wrong now I don't I don't think we have yeah you no I feel like oh we've got okay I'm just gonna this is this is quality content it should also technically speed up data transfers but what you said is absolutely correct it should okay and it does um yeah so also most iPhones at the moment have lightning ports uh so you can't share your charges with people who have like Android phones but because it's the new like National Standard everybody has to change to USBC so that means you can plug your phone into your computer and also show your charges with more people so that's cool you won't have like 97 different charges for everything and that will help the environment this has been Aaron explains so you just say this is a thanks for that that's right this is a National Standard is it good good Aaron actually well done you did you did a grand job thanks so much yeah I'm sure you'll get loads of love in the comments for your highly technical explanation you're not wrong though that those should be the benefits of USBC apple is not taking advantage of them and the problem with the speed of data transfer is that you need to have a USB controller that supports it however the iPhone 15 is using last year's a16 bionic chip and it doesn't have that faster controller so that means you're going to get 480 megabits per second or to put it another way USB 2.0 speeds on the iPhone 15. play that thing again what thing at the trombone so it is one of those look what you could have won moments however let's now talk about the iPhone 15 Pro yes can I talk about the titanium please so I was quite excited about this because um titanium's been a a material of the mind that I'm very no it's not mine a material I've been very interesting because my dad had a titanium watch he was a jeweler and he was very excited about it probably in the 80s This was um because it's self-healing to a degree did you know that no I did not yeah so it it actually oxidizes very quickly if it gets lightly scratched so light scratches and if you combine that particularly with the brush finish of the new iPhone should make it look smarter for longer if you're not using case and they're using grade five titanium for this which is used in spacecraft so if you want to fly your iPhone Pro to the Moon you can't because you asphyxiate but the the materials in it to a degree would would be worth it um thanks for that that's right that's lighter that was almost worthy of an airing explains what I thought was interesting is they are bonding it to an aluminum chassis using something called solid state diffusion and I had a look at that and it actually is bonding materials at an atomic level so as I understand it not being a material scientist is that using some very specialized techniques and pressure you basically push the molecules of two different materials together so that they essentially the molecules intermerge as opposed to just kind of being stuck or welded together so what you then get is very high quality joints with no irregularities no porosity so it's good makes a good seal which is good there was a mention I don't know if you spotted it about better thermal performance which I know previous iPhone some have complained about when when it's warm and you're trying to charge it particularly wireless charging not mag safe but standard wireless charging can overheat very quickly will that make it better that that sounds good however does that affect user serviceability the fact that it's basically molecularly bonded together well you'll you'll have to yeah you'll have to buy the whole thing when you but you can change the glass back so that that's there's that there is good yeah that's good and you can probably change the screen I mean you'll need Apple to do it obviously not any kind of independent repair shop because it won't it won't recognize the screen as an official Apple part even if it is yeah unless Apple will do it no but there we go yeah I I think titanium it looks Jolly nice it's I have the iPhone 12 Pro Max which is a big heavy phone and it would be nice to have a lighter phone it is a little bit lighter yeah it's not I mean we're not talking dramatically it's like about 20 grams isn't it yeah and supposedly slightly smaller and they were mentioning seemed like they were talking about smaller bezels but I couldn't see it like a tiny tiny bit thinner but we are talking fractions of a millimeter I think what did you think of the colors Erin yeah I really like the dark I think it's like a bluish kind of tint to it I really like that one I think that looks very smart so they they're doing these like PVD coats on there so you can have it in natural finish or black white or blue I suspect the it's the case back that will be the main source of the color that you see yeah yeah yeah exactly um so contoured edges as well okay yeah it does look slightly different but it still looks like an iPhone yeah and I they're using the same feels like we've been on the same design for a long time now and we were talking about this before we started recording weren't we about how particularly iPhones aren't used to get excited about getting a new phone well if you go back in in the old days so like before you were born Aaron probably this is tragic in it without old but you used to get excited about getting a new phone because different handset manufacturer different design will it be a flip phone when you have a hold out keyboard or all of these different things and nowadays they're all pretty much the same with the exception of of course now the new generations of folding phones what do you think about a folding phone I love a folding phone I think are really cool and very cute so yeah I got a folding thing what's that what is that that is the Samsung Z flip or Z flip five so you can have a play with that later once you've unflipped it though it looks like an iPhone it once once it is open like that it is basically an iPhone but with a more a higher level of friction on the front and of course a crease in the middle when I don't like that I don't like it you wouldn't because you were like you're an iPhone Fanboy but you've also got this like additional screen on the front and it's interesting and it opens up interesting ideas for doing photography and video and other things with your phone and watching content stuff I haven't had much time to play with it yet but I was going to do some videos on the channel but it's gonna have to wait because I'm away for a few weeks now okay so um but at some point I will talk about the Zed flip five and and particularly how the how difficult it is to change these days from Android to Apple or Apple to Android if you're locked into an ecosystem yeah and you never had that before did you but then you never had any ecosystem I mean one of the phones I I was most excited about getting going back to those days when you had all different shapes and sizes I had an orange Sony Ericsson that kind of I can't remember it rotated in some way it was quite quite a it had likes of orange matte and silver finish it was a lovely looking phone and I think it was one of the first phones I had with the color screen I can't even remember what it was now well maybe maybe see if we can get a picture to put in the uh the b-roll maybe um and Ben's Ben's up against it because we've we've got to get this uh this edited this afternoon or not so that we can go away um let's get back to the iPhone 15 Pro Apple has reinvented buttons no they haven't well it made it sound like they had but they so we thought this was coming to all of the iPhones but actually it's just the Pro Series so your your mute switch is now just uh a soft button with haptic feedback and you can choose a number of different actions to run when you press that button by default it will still be the mute sound off yeah so you've got an action button on the Apple watch Ultra and you can program that I have mine programmed to start a workout and I do use it so I can see that being useful okay let's get to the to what is for me the main event and the thing that I've been most excited about for uh the new iPhone and that is to get a sneaky peek at the new chip these are 17 pro a17 pro and this is being built or fabricated on tsmc's three nanometer process and everybody's very excited about the Mac chips the M3 because that's going to be a jump to three nanometer and there's this general feeling that it's going to be a fairly big Leap Forward so what you need to know is that the M chips and the a-chips share core designs so the CPU cores are the design is shared between the two chips an a chip is not an M chip they have different features but they use the same building blocks if you like so we can look at the a chip to a certain extent to give us some idea of what we might get with M3 which based on the speed improvements that were quoted is a little bit disappointing or should we say underwhelming well what they're saying is that the performance course of which there are two there's two performance cores and four efficiency cores in this a17 Pro the two performance cores are ten percent faster for single core performance so what's your take on that it doesn't feel like enough now I think I know the answer to this I think because I read a white paper on tsmc's three nanometer process and I haven't been able to find it again to to quote it directly for the podcast so if anybody has site of this thing and knows where to find it please leave a comment below I will double check so I'm going to do a video on M3 you know I'll do a bit more research but as I understand it you can when you're designing your processor you can choose between three different approaches with a three nanometer process so you've got a more efficient approach so more battery life less performance and you've got a more performant approach so more performance less battery life less efficiency and something in in the middle yeah and as I understand it you can also deploy these for different segments of a system on chips you could have the CPUs using one thing and the gpus using something else if this is the case if I'm if I'm correct about this then that means that Apple can focus on say efficiency rather than performance and that's probably what you would choose to do with an iPhone which doesn't need the performance but does need the battery life yeah now what is true is that all three of these approaches approaches are both more efficient and more performant than the previous tsmc process okay so whichever they choose there will be an improvement but depending on which one they choose it may not be as dramatic as one might think yeah so my take on that is that that's the possibility so it probably is the case for the first time that we can't actually use the a chip as some kind of foreteller of what the performance leap will be for the M chips interesting and you're saying that you in layman's terms has to do with the density of the transistors I I believe so I've got to be honest this month since I I read this thing and it's only popped into my head since watching the the event last night so what we're saying is less dense is not as good as more dense and it's not always true is it Aaron why did you look at there was no need for it no need I couldn't help myself so glad you're on my way thanks um yeah so that that will be interesting to see it be interesting to see other people's views on that in the comments as well because we're obviously excited to see what the M3 brings us yeah so I I'm still quietly confident that M3 will will be more of a Leap Forward than this but again just think Apple might make choices on how the the chip is fabricated for different products uh or chip types which is a big part of the whole move to Apple silicon is to have that choice and that control yeah um let's let's move it on we got um 16 machine learning cores they're two times faster because there's more on-device machine learning going on we've got prores and av1 decoders so there's some media decoding advantages and a USB controller yes that supports the full 10 gigabits per second so if you do have yes it does however go on you have to have the right cable yes it's optional well they're not going to provide a nice Cable in the Box aren't they why not because they don't anymore it's a pro well I suspect if they give you any cable at all it'll probably just be a charging cable I mean this is something that that folks don't always realize it's a USBC cable might just be for charging so when you try and use it for data you get very low speeds so USB 2 speeds rather than full yeah so you do need to buy the right cables that's a good point Pete thank you let's get to the GPU yeah now Apple said there is this is a new Apple designed Shader architecture yes now that to me says that they're moving away from the previous architecture yes which was power VR indeed it was created by imagination Technologies here in the UK which they have to pay a license fee for I believe yes so now that's all been through the courts because way back when Apple basically did their own version of it and then the courts decided they'd have to pay a royalty originally the iPhones did have power VR chips in yes and uh Apple's um tile based deferred rendering is that's something that power VR does so that's where it's all come from but what I'm getting from this is Apple a redesigning part of it I wonder whether that's to um so they don't have to pay the royalties yeah but on the plus side Dave did you notice that this new GPU is 20 faster than the last one yes I did that's amazing um so um how many GPU cores did The Last Ship have well five and how many GPU causes of the new chip got 20 more it's got six hmm anyone spot a problem here don't try and do the maths Aaron don't try and do that I wasn't even attempting it so it would basically seem that the performance is exactly what it was before and what they've done to get the 20 performance gain is add an extra core yeah so I wonder whether apple is using the shift to tsmc's three nanometer process to mask the fact that their new architecture is perhaps slightly less performant than the old architecture at the moment anyway at the moment and I'm sure they'll optimize it as they go yeah if you were going to make that leap Now's the Time to do it where you can cover those deficiencies definitely definitely yeah that was a good spot that I thought they were talking about um Ray tracing weren't they they gave a ray tracing demo yeah so I think lots of folks have known this is coming because they tried to do it previously and didn't get it into M2 or the previous a chip in time so yeah this is all part of the new thing so now you've got Hardware accelerated Ray tracing so if you're playing games that's that's great yeah and the demo they had it side by side from a performance point of view did look good you know that was much smoother I I must have been I'm not a big gamer so um the the ray tracing effects while I get them I get what they're doing I was like yeah that's for me that's not enough justification to to get one of these I think on a you know I've recently stuck an RTX 1490 in my workstation at home and I do a bit of gaming on it and I have tried to Ray tracing it and I have to say it does add realism does a subtle level it's just more realistic interesting does it improve the game you know your actual gameplay experience I don't think it it does personally but uh it's a nice thing to have to have more realistic Graphics we're going to take that aren't we well yeah I suppose if it's something you can have I wouldn't go out looking for it I think playability is much more important than just purely how a game looks hmm I noticed they're also doing the upscaling thing that Nvidia and AMD do as well using machine learning to operate something um that's a mixed bag sometimes it works well sometimes not so much but that's available now to developers what that will mean is that there's more console type games that could come to iPhone yeah yeah they were talking about some some games running natively now on iPhone won't they yeah that possibly couldn't have couldn't have run on it before which does mean that you know it's got way more power than say a Nintendo switch so if you if you're into Mobile gaming and you want to you know if you can attach a handheld controller and you don't mind having the cut out in the middle of your gaming screen on the edge of your gaming screen then um it's a dynamic Island I I don't know how gaming aligns with the pro moniker no personally but so I mean moving into can we move into cameras let's because that's where arguably the pro moniker earns its keep more although did you spot the the picture of the studio photographer taking the picture of the guy wearing the Black Balloon yes Black Balloon trousers they were hilarious trousers yeah and who's going to do that no one is in wear black balloon trousers well No One's Gonna Aaron Aaron you would wouldn't you if they were called Roy you'd be well oh yeah then lately um do we think that any professional or fashion photographers with a full Studio setup are going to shoot on iPhone it does seem like if you've got a full Studio set up it would be a bit remiss I mean we've got a pretty good Studio here if we were then to film on an iPhone it would seem to defeat the object of everything else yeah I think you're going to use a professional camera but nonetheless it's it's that it's good it is good but again I mean we know a professional photographer and he said you can get some amazing shots on a an iPhone but you couldn't potentially go out for a commercial shoot with an iPhone no one would take you seriously no they wouldn't and that applies to video as well yeah and there used to be actually a whole range of cameras made by I think it might have been Panasonic specifically for wedding videographers who didn't need anything but this is huge shoulder mounted camera I'm going back a few years because people expected you to turn up with something like that really yeah so it just looked the part just look the part interesting yeah um so we've got um the equivalent of seven camera lenses what they kept saying basically they're doing cropping with various different things the sensor is larger it's better you can now take 48 megapixel photos in Heath format as well as Pro Raw which is right like a bit of Heath it's good and the pictures did look good I have to say that they do but what you notice about all of those pictures is that they're very well lit and photography is about capturing light so the idea that you can look at those photos and go oh my happy Snaps are going to suddenly be on the next level they're not but yeah they're shot by Pros with a pro setup and pro lighting or Pro reflectors and an understanding of how to light a shot just like do you remember that that cinematic video they showed a couple of iPhones ago yeah the space scene and it looked amazing it was all shot on iPhone but it was actually done you know with proper professional everything else that's it yeah but again looking back on my old photos compared to what what you're seeing here you are going to get better quality so that's a good thing it is good and I like the fact they're using lidar to help with night shots to get better night shots um the pro Max gets a five-time zoom and the pro gets a three time zoom and I think the three times Zoom is probably the best I want to have because of all of the in between there's a big gap then on the pro Max between the largest focal length and all the other focal lengths yeah um that's just speaking personally I'd probably rather have the pro and have the three times lens but I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people out there and it's bragging rights as well isn't it for this mine's longer yeah mine's got a better Zoom that's that's it yeah very clever how they do the they use the prism to extend the focal length on one the cameras I just thought that was such a neat thing and this is what I took away from the whole event is all these iterations are just building on lots of very clever things that we shouldn't we shouldn't take away from the engineers and the Specialists who have lived these it's really clever stuff it is um so finally then on the camera there's a macro feature that looked nice but again it's a Pro Photo so without checking it ourselves who knows and you can now record to an external USBC Drive which is great and in up to 4K 60 prores so and log uh with log color yeah so that that would be great if you're a videographer and you just want to become you don't need to take a b cam you just take your iPhone and we did that is something we we did a video a few years ago on the channel didn't we using the Cinematic features that was a terrible video including her why was it terrible yeah it just bombed because we didn't have enough time to do it justice oh well go back and look at this great it's not it's got Aaron in it unfortunately it's amazing but one of the things we said is the speed with which you're getting files off whereas in this case using an external hard drive or the optional USB 3 plus also the iCloud storage now being available up to 12 terabytes of iCloud storage if you want to sync it that way it's pretty good um there was also another camera feature yeah spatial video oh yeah it's not coming yet there was this later yeah but what a great I mean basically a tie-in to Apple Vision Pro you you rotate your camera and you can then do a stereoscopic basically 3D video and that's very easy to discount but what a great tie into the Apple Vision Pro and yeah I think that's amazing good well I I'm I'm obviously extremely excited about that what I am conscious of is that um timing wise we we're over an hour on this episode yeah and we haven't done prices yet I'm sick of the sight of you and the sound of you so um let's just quickly do do prices because last year uh we here in the UK got basically done over by Apple and we still are being done over when it comes to the Mac lineup but they've taken the opportunity to reduce prices in the UK so this year's iPhones are actually cheaper than last year's iPhones so the whole range is reduced in price interesting so let's just take uh in view of the time we'll just keep it simple now they they do still sell so you've got the SE which hasn't changed uh has dropped in price in the UK I think the cheapest one now been so 429 you can no don't worry haven't got that up on screen Okay so we've got um I think it's 429 for the cheapest one which is like 64 gigs of storage that's that's your entry point to the iPhone range there's a they're still selling the 13 and the 14. and then we get to the 15. so last year your standard 14 cost 849 pounds and now it costs the 15 now costs entry level 799 so it's a 50 pound saving there over the savings yeah that's worth having isn't it and then the the 14 plus was 949 pounds so the 15 plus now is 899. 899 so another 50 pound saving sounds pretty good so I'm just going to move your microphone down okay that's it good and um then let's move on to the pros so last year a 14 pro would have cost you 1099 pounds this year a 15 Pro will cost you 199. 100 pounds now the pro Max 14 pro Max last year cost 1199 now 15 Pro Max is going to cost you 1199 same price but there is a difference yes it starts at 256. yay here we go 2023 and we've got at least one phone in the lineup starting with 256 gigs of storage yeah I do have to wonder if the the 128 starting on the pro is just to get it under the thousand pound price point it um it possibly is although it's the same in the in the US where the price is the same isn't it as prices haven't changed in the US so but here in the UK the exchange rate has improved against the dollar since they put the prices up so it's fair that we get the the reduction and I think this is really good news because if Apple uses the new product lines as an opportunity to reduce the price then we'll see that in Max as well and iPads and everything else well you would hope so and then I can say by grab fast hammer or the savings thanks for that those who know no no uh let's just do the watch as well uh watch eight Watch series 8 would have cost you before the event 479 pounds a watch series 9 will cost what then uh starting level 399. wow 80 quid off yeah that's quite a saving and uh watch eight no it's not watch eight Ultras it's just watch Ultra that was 849 pounds and now the ultra 2 is looking up Aaron's tired and bored okay 799 7.99 so we're saving uh 50 Quid on the ultra tee so what does that tell you apart from putting the exchange rate aside um well just that there's not much different to last year yeah and I I suspect Apple have looked at that and as well as the exchange rate they've probably looked at it and gone well we can't you know justify a massive price High Court indeed a hike at all so they want to keep their sales buoyant and this is a way of doing it I think you're probably right yeah and I think it actually I mean we were all thinking the uh titanium finish would certainly add to the cost yeah and it hasn't done it's just surprising although it used surgical grade steel before didn't it which is fairly pricing anyway I believe so an an interesting event uh with some interesting sort of things that we can derive for the future of the Mac um some good news for UK buyers that the prices are finally coming down we you know we've been suffering massive inflation here so everybody's struggling with cost of living and don't forget there's that knock-on effect as well because that means that you can buy you know go and buy an iPhone 13 for example I don't know what those costs you have up on the screen at all then no six six fifty yeah I mean all of the the prices Cascade downwards so everything becomes a bit cheaper good news for everybody a little bit more performance and some iterations in the phones that's great should you rush out to upgrade to iPhone 15 if you're already on 14 no no no I'm to be honest I'm we're due for new phones and I'm Still rocking my iPhone 12 Pro Max and I'm struggling to find motivation to change it I'm exactly the same uh and to be honest with you I think that's another win for the environment because if people aren't going out and replacing things just because they have to have the newest because it's got some killer feature on it well that's that's good isn't it yeah that's a bit more moderation would be good for all of us yeah for sure good well guys I hope uh and girls sorry yeah I hope you all enjoyed the podcast episode of uh first outing in season four uh what you would have noticed of course is that this is now back on the main channel so we're not using the separate Channel anymore because YouTube now has a separate feature for podcasts the whole reason that we put it on the other channel previously is because Apple didn't Apple YouTube did I say afterwards no you said YouTube earlier but you said up all that time well what used to happen is you'd put up a podcast and of course not many people are going to watch a long podcast compared to a short Tech episode so YouTube would just kill your channel every time you you put a podcast up so hopefully that won't happen anymore it would be great to know like like you said at the beginning we're going to be doing less episodes but we'd love to know from you guys what you'd like to see from us if you'd like to see us at all I mean you might look at this and go oh no way Jose in which case just stick with him but if you would like to see more what would you like to see absolutely yeah we're open to ideas we make the show for you guys so um yeah anything you want let us know in the comment section and I think we should probably wrap it up there thank you Ben and Aaron for being here it wouldn't literally wouldn't be the same without you um and yeah thanks Pete it's always a pleasure to have a conversation with anyone apart from you thanks but unfortunately we're stuck with each other so sometimes I talk to myself because it's the only way I can be sure of intelligent conversation and on that note let's say Cheerio folks cheerio I think my bits are really really good I mean you sucked I did amazingly also Aaron explains this now I've got popular part of that podcast for who for me she'll love it yeah you didn't see anybody doing the Apple event gestures that's right podcast we should have done some of those do you think they all went on a horse riding Expedition the day before because they were all standing like they're a bit saddle stillforeign yes Pete um you know my two turtles Tyler and Bonnie no I've got two turtles I've been trying to breed it's not going too well it was going well at one time I thought they were falling in love but now it just seems they're falling apart um I don't know what to do it's a turtle Eclipse of the Heart don't laugh at him don't encourage him I liked how long it was it was a really long joke with with a really Naf punchline can I just say thanks that's okay that's kind of half of the course it is yeah well welcome back everybody we're we're back we are indeed back a constant GQ podcast and we shall call this season four episode one because that's what it is it is indeed and coming up in the show today we're going to be talking about Apple's event that's just happened the wonderlust event and uh the new iPhones new Apple watches uh we're going to be asking what the new a17 Pro chip means for M3 and also there's some good news finally for UK buyers so all of that coming up first of all it's nice uh nice to be back Pete it's been a long time it has I've forgotten what you look like that must have been good for you it was a blessing and now it's all traumatized back but never mind you've got the same problem on the other other side of the actually I have to look at you and also I have to look at Aaron who's right opposite me Aaron's here everybody I'm here I'm gonna improve this book are you gonna improve it by talking into your microphone though or are you gonna just yeah well I don't know it's like here okay yeah that should be fine yeah and all expense has indeed been spared because we have one microphone between you and Ben so yeah I love it good and uh Ben's here everybody so you look at that seamless just turn the Micron hello Ben salutations excellent Ben's my son what most people probably don't realize is that Ben does most of the editing on the constant geekery Channel and asked to put up with uh with me fluffing my lines and doing terrible jokes and things like that he must have the patience of a scene that's all I'm saying he does he does a grand job well then Ben not even 16 yet so you're not no what a legend wow good that's enough of that how are you Erin my fingers I've got bruised fingers because I did like a blood test and you have to like stab your fingers and now they're bruised like you have to like milk like your fingers of blood sorry no no no hang on hang on just stop there remember you have to do what to your fingers you have to milk them that's what I said something like oh what does that look like it's hard you have to like rub your hand like this to make up a blood go in this little tube it's really gross are you sure you were reading the right instructions for the right thing you had just bought a dairy farm or something did you get this off of eBay or was it an official medical NHS Medical and basically a doctor they probably got off eBay they probably did ah well thank you for that thanks for sharing Aaron anytime and uh liking the outfit today thank you it's my outfit well what the viewers won't be able to see is that you're in in full denim today double denim double denim the perfect outfit combination and under the denim I can't help but notice that you're wearing a neck curtain just just let me enjoy an outfit for once there's no need for it my mum said that I look like a pirate it's just a confidence boost I needed but you are thanks mum are you able to do a pirate accent for us our new Apple stuff wow it was like I was transported back in time onto some pirate ship somewhere it's just so authentic it was quite a seamless segue though into new Apple stuff new Apple stuff yeah all kind of new Apple stuff what I will say is that um before we before we get too far into the Apple stuff or indeed into it at all um the the podcast and we will put chapters in the description for those of you who don't want to listen to us waffle although that is sort of the point of a podcast I think so probably and we do do some waffling all we do and I've forgotten even what I was gonna say you were gonna say something about the podcast and chapters yeah so we um we stopped doing the podcast because we were finding it impossible to do it on a weekly basis so um it's taken us a long time to get some energy back to do it it won't be on a weekly basis I think we've got to say that um partly because I'm not here for the next like three or four weeks anyway so Erin celebrate you had a mad busy period with our web business DP so you are available to do stuff and then we made the decision to refit the studio so hopefully you like what you're seeing it's not finished yet uh and we certainly haven't finished playing around with the lighting and there's a panel behind Ben there that's uh not finished yet and it's very heavy so just be careful it doesn't fall over onto your head Aaron I mean it would make this a lot more fun wouldn't it be like a cool little it'd be some kind of content restriction on though and we wouldn't we wouldn't want anything to happen to you we wouldn't that sounds like lies anyway how did you get out of your prison cell uh I've got like a paper clip and they'll say bribe the card so that's quite good okay okay we paid for a guard not very much clearly not enough so anyway here here we have an Apple event how excited were you before the Apple event Pete uh do you want me to do it on a scale of one to ten yes please I was probably a five or a six okay and then as the event started sort of five minutes into the event I'd only come across as negative but maybe a five or a six okay and then maybe half an hour into the event probably a five or a six okay and when they were really talking up the environmental stuff oh oh well that was a highlight so probably a five or a six good it was it was a very vanilla event is what I'm getting at it was a little bit um there is not a massive massive Leap Forward is there in in anything that they were talking about no I mean Apple have always been about the marketing haven't they they've always been good with their marketing but that felt like a very long drawn out event for not a great deal of actual product news yeah I saw somebody on Twitter said that all of that could have been done by a press release yes I sort of agree with yeah but that's not the way they do things anymore no um so let's talk about it it starts off rather predictably and I think I did predict that it would be the Apple watch Saved My Life segment to get started yeah which we we joke about but if if you were one of the people it's one of those things isn't it some of these features on the Apple watch are a bit like Insurance you hope you never need it it's not a particularly exciting thing but if you do need it you're very grateful you've got it absolutely and there was a few examples of those who had um where the the Apple watch were detected high heart rate you know and that prompted them to seek medical help and uncovered other issues so that was nice and a couple of guys who use the SOS satellite thing which I understand is now available in the UK it is so do you have that now on your your Apple watch Ultra version one I don't I've not looked into it because I've not really been hanging off a mountain there aren't that many mountains in England to hang off In fairness no and I'm not normally a hanger offer of things there aren't many bears either no but if I ever got cornered by one in my bedroom then you could maybe get help yeah maybe um but yeah it's it's one of those features that we we do tend to mock it a little bit but actually it's it's a really good thing if you're in a situation where you need it and we're going to talk about how they've extended that in a bit I guess so um my Apple watch gave me a heart rate warning the other day did it it's a high heart rate really yeah do you know where it did it were you exercising I was not I was I was traveling and it was on Friday oh okay so we had a little company outing didn't we we did so we took uh our staff up to to London did you enjoy your day in London Aaron I had a wonderful time it was so English and we we did a fair amount of walking I think it's fair to say A Little Piece of Me in London it was good fun my Apple watch told me I bought 10 miles in London I definitely felt that the next day but that's not the point of the Apple watch story it was on the bus on the way homes we'd charted or hired a a bus and the driver starts yawning part way on the journey home and the frequency of the yawning is increasing and the his speed is becoming a bit more erratic and his steering not you know how like when you've got a road with two lanes yeah yeah he was very liberal about um being in both of them at the same time I was making good use of the road he was using all of the road and I'm like I guess my heart rate was obviously High because I was under under stress I'm watching him like a hawk at the front of the bus in the end I I told him that he had to pull over did he uh well he attempted to but then he sort of crashed the bus into a curb and which woke everyone up on on the bus I don't even know why I'm asking if he did it because I was on the same bus so I know he did but I was asleep and that did wake me up yeah it's like a lay-by and there's a curb to sort of split the lay-by from the from the road and we're on a long straight road and he just didn't see it at all and just drove straight over it at 70 miles an hour whatever it was or maybe if your eyes are closed you wouldn't see it no it's ridiculous anyway we uh we did get him to pull over and got him outside where he had a cigarette and then he was super vigilant for the next 40 miles that's good that's good but it is interesting going back to the point that you're you're watching noticed an increase in your heart rate so it works yeah obviously that wasn't for a for a health reason could have been for a health reason if he'd have crashed and killed us all or could it have been a false flag Could you actually have a health reason that you now think was just panicked coach driving when actually you know you've got a problem I didn't think about that so if I drop that at some point then you'll know it wasn't a bus well it might not be you might drop dead for other reasons excellent it's like well that's that's um some pretty good insights for for the viewers and listeners um let's uh move on to Mac because Mr cook made out like he was going to talk Mac got excited about that didn't we we thought oh is there going to be some kind of Mac announcement and all he did was said we've launched our fastest Max and um and talked up the 15-inch MacBook Air which is apparently now the most popular laptop in the lineup which is probably Fair well they are very good I have to say I've done a review of one on the channel because I've got one for my wife just the entry level model and I have to say what a fantastic laptop yeah you're pleased with it she's pleased with it yeah I shouldn't use it that much In fairness but I I played with it for a bit and I yeah it's nice nice screen nice good size you like a slightly larger laptop I've got a 14 inch MacBook Pro at the moment I find it a tad on the small side it's fine but I will say actually the I like a smaller laptop but sometimes I just like to have two apps side by side and it's just not quite large enough on the 14 inch whereas the 15 inches yeah absolutely I can imagine that if they made a 15 inch MacBook Pro I'd probably get that one like they did in the past yeah got the massive one or the little one yeah um they did uh just highlight they'd completed the Apple silicon transition which we already knew about anyway and then they were talking about Vision Pro and hype in that and saying that they're still on target to deliver early in 2024. yeah and of course with WWDC where that was announced they were obviously briefing developers on stuff that they could then build using Vision Pro and they've they've reported back that they're excited or Tim's reported back that he's excited with some of the things that they're being shown so I I am interested to see what will be developed because it's a bit like when the iPhone was released there was suddenly all these things that developers could do using the the iPhone ecosystem and Vision Pro is is another thing like the watch where you've got different applications different sensors so I'm very intrigued to see what they do with it beyond the obvious yeah I'm looking forward to it um I don't know that we're gonna buy one though they're quite expensive aren't they for what is a fairly singularly focused device yeah I I can't see I can't see the benefit but then you never know I mean you've got to try how many that's that's the thing well if an app comes along that allows you to sort of Video Edit I mean imagine if you've got a timeline if you can go into DaVinci or Final Cut Pro in The Vision Pro and then you can look at a timeline going all the way over like that wouldn't that be amazing yeah I'm not convinced it's necessary but yeah that'd be interesting it would be it is necessary I think it'd be fantastic to for Cinema for watching movies if the battery lasted a bit longer but um unless you're watching quite a short movie it's not going to cut it I think it's under two hours battery life how does that sound I do because I have the Oculus Quest first one and the battery life on that was pretty decent um and I used to be able to watch movies on that as well and the price point of apple one is just wild compared to that so how do you get on with VR I love VR I think it's brilliant absolutely love it it doesn't make you want to puke I was all good with it yeah I got like slightly motion because of course we on the channel we reviewed some um glasses that project a monitor in front of you and I actually found that made me a bit queasy at times as well so I I'm not very good with it Ben you um you'd like to play a bit of VR I do would you like to try the Apple Vision Pro do you see I I don't really see a point in it I'll be honest I I don't think I'd have application for it because I have a VR headset myself as well and I think it does enough and with it likely going to be costing best part of three thousand pounds you might have to save up for a little while yeah yeah and I don't disagree with any of those things particularly the price point but one of the things Apple has always been very good at is taking a product that's already in the market or a the type of product that's already in the market and claiming they invented it no sorry carry on people no they do do that but they then they then take it to a point where it becomes part of day-to-day use now I'm not necessarily saying that the Vision Pro is that next device but you think about the iPad in fact let's start with the iPhone there were touch screens before that the Nokia n95 was the one I was looking at before the iPhone came out do you remember that and then the iPhone came out and that was really the basis for every phone we have now which is something we're going to talk about a bit later same with the iPad others have tried to do a tablet and it hadn't worked even even the Apple watch has been something that is now much more commonly accepted I'm not saying that there weren't good ones before but Apple are very good at seeing how people use a product and then just developing the sort of the the full answer to that product yeah I think they are and it's easy to we like to poke a bit of fun at Apple I mean we use Apple products we give them a lot of our money so it's nice it's nice to have a balanced view of them and I can remember when the iPad was launched and it got mercilessly mocked because of the name you know everyone was saying it sounded like a feminine hygiene product and uh we did mock it but when iPad 2 came out you know I was there at the moment of launch to go and buy one so it was very quick to go from a product that was kind of like no one's ever going who's going to want a big iPhone kind of to a big iPod or whatever you need to um this product that everybody had to have so Apple has done that stuff of course we're a long way down the road now and the innovation has kind of happened and now we're more into iteration rather than Innovation whatever um Apple would like us to believe but let's let's talk Apple watch if we can yeah so meet the new Apple watch same as the old Apple watch pretty much uh well it looks the same it does it's got a new color hasn't it Erin do you like the pink the shade I wish it was like a hot pink I've always Tim never gives me what I want you know done I'll take a I'll take a pastel pink for now but hot pink next time please Tim he's taking one like a hot thing no but you said something a pastel pink dude yeah it's a pastel pink passed out it's fine isn't it passed out pink I think is so um but yeah so it looks pretty much the same it does it's got a new chip in it though hasn't it yes which they're calling the S S9 it has no GPU for um animations are slightly better do you find on your Apple watch that the animations are a bit laggy I I gotta be honest I I'm not really a big Apple watch user I've been wearing mine of late um because I'm interested in in monitoring heart rate um but I yeah I I'm this works fine this is a series six and the only downside to it is I managed to crack the um non-replaceable plastic front I think they are Sapphire now aren't they so they're A Bit Stronger Yeah Yeah but so I can't take it in the water anymore can I go swimming with this now that kind of defeats the object a little bit because you swim quite a lot to me no I do yeah um so then we've got also in the chip is if it had machine learning calls before but it has four machine learning cores and neural engine and this is to power Siri which is now working on device yeah for the most common things but not everything yeah so what this means is if you don't have a Wi-Fi or a Cellular Connection then you'll you'll actually be able to use Siri so so that's progress I guess one might say that and uh no one's ever done that before on device voice assistant didn't um just going back to Windows phone wasn't Cortana on this oh would you just stop with the windows phone it's not come it's dead it was not coming back it was so good though because you could actually dictate a text message whilst you're driving through an area with no phone coverage and it would still work whereas the iPhone never did do you know what annoys me about Siri is that you can you can dictate a message but if it can't get a connection when you when you're driving it won't say I'll hold that until I've got a signal so you might have sent or composed a very long message and it says I'm sorry I'm having trouble with the connection what would be really really nice this would be really Innovative apple is to just say do you want me to send that when I have a connection again yes please Siri do that I mean how hard must that be so does it just just forget it so I've activated Siri on my Apple iPad so yeah it just forgets it and you have to re-re-dictate it well they are saying that dictation is improved by 25 percent I don't know I mean Apple were very fast and loose with the percentages and improvements aren't they so but improved dictation um some Health Data are also accessible via Siri as well yeah so you could say things like how how long did I sleep last night or things like that as opposed to sort of thinking about you know what time did I go to bed and get to sleep and when did I wake up I'm so old school how did we know how we slept before Apple it's a mystery uh 18 hours of of battery life do it I feel like that's six hours shorter where it all to be at least I mean I don't have that problem because I got the ultra well you know good for you um it's good and do you have you found that your um left bicep is much bigger now after carrying the the ultra it's absolutely fine okay it's actually quite a reassuring weight something they have added to to the which is a second generation Ultra wideband chip yeah so you can now use your Apple watch to Ping your phone and find it with high degree of accuracy yes which is great if you've lost your phone although I did think you know Tim did mention we never leave for home without our phone and if we do we go back and get it you did say that so I'm not sure how often that will be used but maybe maybe some people are more likely to ah yes I'm going to jump in here and say I lose my phone in my bedroom like 24 7. because I just like put it down somewhere and then I left it in the fridge the other day yeah sorry sorry what you did what with your phone I was making a sandwich and I went to I was like watching stuff on my phone as I was making my sandwich because um and then I put the butter back in the fridge shut it and then spent like five minutes trying to find my phone and then open the fridge and it was just on top of the butter and I've done that before as well that's not even like a first time in the fridge kind of thing just out of Interest did someone call you and you just picked up the butter and put it to your ear hello yeah um I can't just say what kind of masochist puts butter in the fridge what are you just eating like warm butter well then you can spread it yeah as opposed to like dragging a piece of freezing cold butter across your toast and ripping the bread apart but it's spreadable lacto free butter okay so it's not so it's not good it's spread it is butter which is the worst butter it's the worst word isn't it would you like some spread of your bread it's like no I wouldn't give me some butter so I was going to tell you a story then about a restaurant that I went to with with a butter issue but I'm not going to because that's not about Apple let's get back to the point and Erin seriously why do we employ you I just because enjoy your happiness to the company you actually just admit it to us so that you put your phone in the fridge yeah well you guys are such good friends to me you won't use that in any way so and we won't we won't put it on the internet where it potentially tens of thousands of people will find out about your your fridge rabbits your milky fingers thank you that's your freezing cold food I suppose you probably get better performance when you put it in the fridge you might do actually yeah that's true it's true processes work better when they're cold it might reset the battery Aaron's battery life is probably amazing well you heard it here first top tip keep your phone in the fridge yeah there you go um let's just cover off the other the other bits there's something about it syncing up with homepod I don't use homepod so I can't comment on that why are you pointing at me oh the pinch gesture you know that's that's always been there no it hasn't it has it's part of the accessibility settings of your watch you can clench your an unclench so if you switch on accessibility please don't use the word clench again on the book on the podcast it depends what you're clenching Pete um I'm talking about hands here detect if you were milking your fingers oh that's handy yeah yeah it was great imagine the Microsoft desk it looks like you're milking your fingers do you want help with that it'll be like the hand washing thing whatever it will say you haven't milked them enough going ah okay finger tap gesture though so it's something that's been part of the accessibility settings but they are formalizing it now I think actually the stuff in the accessibility wasn't specifically a double tap and it wasn't hugely reliable so they've obviously improved it yeah they did say that they're using a combination of biometric signals to determine and learn and this is where the machine learning course come in again to be able to detect the the tap gesture that your your own wrist and hand generates so it should get better over time which is quite clever yeah is it something you think you would use I do I do think it's one of those things that we will mark and I'm not planning to get one of these new new watches um but when when the time comes for a new one I suspect it will be the sort of thing like I often put this I press one of the buttons on my phone to snooze my alarm in the morning and just being able to do that I can see that becoming second nature and to hang up a phone call maybe I could see it becoming something you do for certain actions not probably everything that you can program it for you know you're just going to see loads of people now walking down the street doing the the tap I reckon there's a whole business to be had there in making sock puppets for those people okay do you do you remember what was the name of the sock puppet on red dwarf I don't remember Mr flipple was it Mr flipple I don't know yeah what I do know Pete is that you know we traditionally do most of our business ventures together but that's one I won't be joining you on this oh I'll let you I'll let you do your own sock puppets I've got another business idea that we'll talk about in a minute as well okay all right really look forward to that uh the screen is brighter so it can go all the way up to 2000 nits which I believe is twice the number of nits that you've got in the S8 but it can also go down can't it can to one one one knit so if you're in a very dark very dark space like almost like a dungeon airing or like a locked room then you would still be able to tell the time if you had an Apple Watch do you have an Apple Watch I don't have an Apple watch um so then we had to sit through a whole bunch of environmental cringe can I just ask before we move on do you do you get an itchy head when someone starts talking about knits no okay it's just me yeah did you just really do the knits joke again have I already done that joke in the past you probably have you'll have forgotten obviously being as elderly As You Are something I I was going to say earlier and I forgot to so because you're elderly probably um is that some people were feeding back on our old podcast and there was there was a small here's a small percentage Aaron small percentage of people who didn't like the way that we you know give you give you abuse on the on the podcast yes because you're really really mean no it's because they are laboring under the illusion that you're really you know a nice person really innocent that you don't you know I would say she is a nice person I will go on there as saying that but she is brutal I will say you guys can't keep giving net jokes because both of you are losing your hair oh there it is oh let's see honestly folks if any of you on the old podcast thought that we were we were dishing out to Aaron believe me she can give it back and we're trying to encourage her to do that on the podcast on the podcast Erin I'm a podcast you'd have to do it like all the time well you know I'm quite sensitive about my hair I can't believe that good you would say something so mean and cruel which one I'm writing this down in my notes as points to bring up more often you're giving away all your weak spots don't do that I wouldn't have said it if I really meant it um environmental stuff yeah so we sort of had to sit through quite a bit of this and I always find myself taking a bit of a negative view of it because at the end of the day we're talking about a company that's sold as ssds into MacBooks and I've tried to cover this on the channel and a lot of viewers don't really get what I'm trying to say with this but um so I think it's worth just talking about for a moment I I I think it's a terrible thing to do to soldering an SSD because if your SSD fails for any reason your whole machine is toast and they can fail um typically in an apple machine when the older Intel machines if it failed it was because the power chip supplied power to the SSD went wrong and supplied too much voltage to the SSD and fried it the ssds themselves are completely reliable this is the annoying thing if if nothing goes wrong like that and bear in mind only a tiny percentage are faults but for the majority of machines it will Outlast all of the rest of the components of the machine but that doesn't matter because if you're the one who's got a failed one that's gutting to lose your your whole machine and if you're out of warranty the usual stupidity applies where basically apple is going to throw away a perfectly good machine because of this design choice now how can you claim to be environmentally friendly at the same time as doing that and being so obstructive with repairs of laptops I get where you're coming from and I've got an interesting thought on right to repair that will come to you a bit later um but I think you've you've kind of argued yourself out of this by saying it's such a small percentage yes it is gutting if you're one of the ones that is affected by it it's really annoying but you've got to look at the bigger bigger picture and the numbers haven't you I suppose if you're talking about Apple's overall environmental credentials then yes but uh I still think it's it's dumb and it's unnecessary and apple themselves have proved it that it's unnecessary because if you buy the Mac Studio the nunchip is a replaceable device yeah but at the same time if if they am I right in saying that if they didn't solder the SSD on then you're going to make the chassis of the MacBooks thicker I don't believe that personally I think they could do it okay so why you think it's a cynical thing to stop you being able to repair it yourself um well I think Apple would put it under the guise of security and there's another issue that goes on here which is happening on a wide scale and that is when corporates get rid of their stock of computers and because they can't just take the hard drives out which is what they would used to do you'd have the IT department would remove the the hard drive or the SSD whatever and then they would hire some company to do the disposals and what they would then do is refer a bit a new drive in and sell it on yeah um Apple devices you can't do that on which means somebody would have to sit there and zero out all of the drives and they can't be bothered so they hand them off to these companies and when these companies get them they can't actually do anything because invariably they're locked with the Apple ID and so they can't even get access to the machine you can't boot it from an external device they can't replace the SSD so they're left with this situation where they can't actually do anything with it and they can't dismantle it for parts and sell the parts on the second-hand Market because Apple will actively go after anybody who's doing that interesting it has to be turned into powder you know it has to be pulverized and and recycled through Apple's approved recycling chain and I just think what a shocking waste of these computers can go on for years and years and years and yet corporations what how what are they going to do three to five years they're going to be turfing these things out and sometimes even less than that and you've got perfectly good machines going into the scrap and you know you have some good points there and maybe that is something that Apple do have in the pipeline is the recognition of that maybe maybe they will just say well you know in the Modern Age you do turn them back into powder but that does seem very wasteful I think the environmental stuff I've seen I've seen some posts on LinkedIn about it this morning so I'm loading it that little mother nature skit that everyone took part in um others mocking it a little bit and I thought it was a bit cringy that the skit but I thought about it after we watched it and they're clearly trying to do something um and this is a step in the right direction it's one product lineup just the Apple watch isn't it but they're clearly trying I think they went on a bit too much about it but um and the other thing is we don't know how big this is in the scheme of things because they're saying oh we've done this many billions some things I can't even remember there was that they said they'd done billions not millions of but how much is that compared to the rest of what Apple's doing as such a large corporation around the planet yeah so they actually put this segment in between Apple Watch series 9 and Apple watch Ultra 2. and of course we realized towards the end of the the sequence is that they're only talking about Apple watch however I think it is really cool that if you buy an Apple Watch series 9 with a sport Loop specifically then that is a carbon neutral product yeah well that's that's a fantastic achievement that is laudable yeah so I you know it's great I just you know the right to repair and everything else we just wish that uh Apple was a bit more open like that now what they did surprisingly make a comment about the iPhone and its replaceable glass back on the the pro model and how that you know can be easily replaced keeping the iPhone going for longer I think that's the first time I've really heard Apple talking about that kind of thing yeah they also mentioned something else I know we're going to sort of segue into the iPhone in a minute but obviously one of the things we're going to talk about is the connectivity which we'll go into more detail on the in a minute but I did see someone this morning I can't even remember what out that it was on saying well that's a load of lightning cables that are going to be put in landfill and it's like well first of all no it's not because not everyone's going to go out and replace them straight away they're not going to throw them away because there'll always be some device hanging around the house with it in and and secondly have you ever known the lightning cable to last more than 12 months they will die mine do but I take meticulous care of my stuff so um anyway so that here's my next business side here recyclemycable.com yeah okay so you know send it to someone who can then process it down because there are valuable things in the cable um metals and all that kind of stuff or you know you resell on the cable to someone who needs it yeah and if Apple were supporting longer life spans of of products then those things go on for a long time and I think they should do that because Apple makes its money most of its money shortly from selling apps and services and skimming off on every time you use Apple pay they're taking a chunk yeah so is it not in their interest to have a thriving used market for their products because all of those customers whilst they haven't paid Apple for the device they will be paying Apple for all the other stuff that's a really good point and and they did make as well as holding its value I don't know if you noticed there was a lot of push for trading trade in on if you're trade in this phone you'll get quite a lot back towards your new phone well what's going to happen to those phones they're going to be sold as refurbished I I would expect they'll be kept as Replacements or soldiers refurbished it's possible when they'll be sold as three first or ground down and recycled all that yeah anyway I'm conscious of time let's move on Apple watch Ultra too I don't think there's much to say about this it looks like apple it's identical from a chassis point of view identical slightly brighter screen 3000 nits I I have to say if you're thinking about getting one and you've got well you'll know if you've already got an ultra watch I've never thought the screen is not bright enough under any conditions I've used it in yet so I spent most people won't notice that I thought it's quite nice um to get the Bluetooth accessories for cycling so you can put Cadence Sensor on your bike and connect it up to your watch Ultra that's quite cool I wasn't paying attention at that point but yes okay so Apple watch Ultra 2 is a thing and I think again there is one particular strap that you can buy that with and you get again it's a a carbon neutral product yes so well done apple good let's talk about iPhone oh was there any new iPhones I I will quote directly they said about the iPhone 15 an all-new design what has got slightly more contoured edges and it's got that nice textured infused glass back and that's that's kind of cool yeah I thought that was great because it's going to be less fingerprints and probably you're going to have a better grip on it if you don't put a case on it yeah but of course everyone's going to put a case on it so um because they're so expensive we'll come to pricing at the end and they're like I said there is some good news for for UK buyers Dynamic Island comes to iPhone 15 it seems like Apple's going all in on that so we're stuck with Dynamic Island for a bit yeah it's I've not used it because I've got my iPhone 13 at the moment so I don't know it seems to be a bit of a Marmite thing some people love it some people hate it I wonder if it's a bit like the notch on the the MacBook after a while you just don't notice yeah I guess um the display as a super retina xdr OLED slightly brighter than it used to be and that's about as far as we need to talk about that it's two sizes 6.1 inch 6.7 inch in the plus and the colors which color would you have Eric um I'd probably go for the blue or the pink one um I was thinking what about you Ben if you were gonna go for one of these iPhones what color would you black black excellent good choice they are all a bit Pastor Lee sorry pastali still um but you know some people are going to really love that and changing the colors each year is classic marketing trick isn't it to keep people definitely changing and and don't don't forget the increase in battery life was there one yeah yeah so the standard 15 has 20 hours with video feedback or should I say up to 20 hours with video video of video playback right the 15 plus 26 hours and that's three more hours over the iPhone 12. the iPhone 12 that's what it says on the website excellent that's that's quite a few phones ago yeah yeah at least three interesting I wonder why that is I'm sure you'll let us know in the comments um incidentally if you fancy leaving a comment on the podcast in future episodes of the podcast we will feature some of those comments and uh so if you've got questions and stuff we will feature those as a section and do answers give you a shout out on the podcast um something else this phone gets is and some people have basically been saying yeah this is last year's Pro which is not far from the truth it's got the same chip it's the a16 bar neck and it's now got the 48 megapixel sensor which is a quad pixel sensor so you're actually getting 12 megapixel images of it yep but with those extra picture pictures I'm inventing new words pixels with those extra pixels you can better evaluate light so in low light conditions you get a better quality image that kind of thing yeah um that's great I mean it seems to me that the main focus of a smartphone these days is the camera yeah I was looking back on photos that I've taken on the many iPhones I've had since my first one which I think was a five possibly a four and iPhone's always taking good picture and actually there's many other smartphones out there that take really good pictures as well um but you you can see a noticeable improvement over time in terms of you know uh color richness depth just the overall quality of the image and also I don't know if you've noticed now we just take it for granted because it what we're seeing is iterations now small increments so you have to go back quite a few years to see a difference but it's not just the quality of the images it's the speed with which you can get your camera out now and take a really good what we call a snap you know you're not you're not thinking the first phones are quite relatively speaking slow and you still had to really think about getting the image right whereas now you take a picture and you think oh it's blurred give it a second for the ml computational photography to go through and bang actually it's not very very clever so none of us in the mass Market are professional photographers but it is giving us better quality memories and experiences in our day-to-day life so I think that's a good thing yeah it is and that's what it's all about isn't it these these devices are sort of the hub for your life these days so a good camera is good um something that they've done that I think is quite useful is you've got two times Zoom all they're doing is cropping the sensor to get that but you still get a 12 megapixel image but it is um pixel per pixel you know it's a it's a proper full resolution 12 megapixel image yeah which is which is great yeah and they're also now capturing a depth map with each photo so what this means is that afterwards if you if you've detected it it'll detect if there's someone in the shot and capture a depth map so that afterwards you can turn it into a portrait photo if you want to you know this is this AI artificial blurring of the background I think you can do Post Focus as well yeah I don't I didn't pick up and I haven't checked maybe this is something for you to just check now Ben I thought that was a pro only feature the post Focus you know they did definitely mention it for the other one did they though they did did they so you've got the a16 bionic the other thing that's gone into the phone is a second generation Ultra wide bandship just like in the watch so your you you now with find me you your stalking performance is is much improved that's tongue-in-cheek folks and and I use the app to um you know the whole family were on the find my app it's kind of useful to know where each other is but I do I do call the app stalk my wife so I can see where she is at any time it is really useful though isn't it if you you sort of like getting ready to go out and you're waiting for someone to come home from a certain location to get a little notification when they leave if you're cooking dinner or something like that that's good that's great yeah good could you find any information on that pin on the post Focus stuff I do believe it's on all iPhone 15s told you excellent that's what you said in it that's exactly what I said I think if you rewind it that's what you'll find I said that's what it was um so we we've just been talking about how your telephone can take great photos but what always seems to be missing from these uh events is how's the quality of your phone calls yes and just as I was thinking it this time they started talking about it so now they're using machine learning to do voice isolation on phone calls it sounds very impressive it did very useful I would say yeah because how many times do you have that when you're in a noisy environment and someone can't hear you the only thing I thought about it was a really good demonstration but it doesn't work of course you can still hear that environment so it can be difficult to hear your own thoughts if you're in a noisy environment but obviously there are times when you need to make that call so that's a great feature very cool the other thing I've got noted down before the obvious Peak changes emergency SOS via satellite is in the phone and it says two years free and it's not available all over the world but it is available in the UK now yep so since we're in the UK that's kind of useful and the roadside assistance feature as well using the same technology yeah but only available in the states as we understand at the moment and you get it if you've got a triple a membership I say so this is via satellite roadside assistance device yeah yeah um so that's all good now of course the the big change that everyone knew was coming because the EU demanded it is that uh they moved to uspc now um we've been thinking about this new section for the podcast yes we don't have a jingle yet Aaron I'd like Pete to just hum one that's all right Pete could you could you come here a jingle we're going to call this segment Erin explains yeah and we will get a jingle but I am happy to hum one for now we've got this cool new mixer thing with with all sorts of effects so we could do something like oh that's pretty cool that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good did that actually say Aaron explains well that's what I said oh did you say it and I I said it well swell's putting a filter on oh can I have it can I have a go yeah let me let me choose a fill let me choose a filter that's appropriate for you hang on Aaron explains he's not working on me well can we please have you for the rest of the podcast speaking like one of the Chipmunks Look let's get on with it Aaron explains hello I'm Aaron you may have noticed me earlier in the podcast and I'm gonna explain USBC have you got notes on your phone yeah I've got notes on my phone because this is the level of confidence you should have dear viewers and listeners it's gonna be amazing okay Aaron what does USB stand for why would you say that I don't you know that I don't know that so have break it down what do you think the U stands for and please don't say umbrella Universal very good there you go she knows her stuff let's hurry up right USBC has more power so for normal lightning cable which is on most iPhones at the moment uh can carry a 2.4 a current whereas a USBC can carry a 3A current up to a 5A current so that's pretty neat okay so what does the A stand for why are you asking me questions you know that I don't know isn't your dad an electrician have you learned nothing you're meant to be explaining things it just means that it's more powerful I was getting onto it yeah the only downside to this is and I realize Aaron that you're about to come onto this because you've done all your research is that the iPhone still charges at the same rate despite having USBC they haven't taken advantage of that extra power so as far as I'm aware it's still going to take as long to charge right so my entire segment is just destroyed Adventure I'm not responsible I think you've just ruined little my little Aaron exit right here we go okay that means the USBC charger on the phone can charge your phone quicker but apparently that's wrong now I don't I don't think we have yeah you no I feel like oh we've got okay I'm just gonna this is this is quality content it should also technically speed up data transfers but what you said is absolutely correct it should okay and it does um yeah so also most iPhones at the moment have lightning ports uh so you can't share your charges with people who have like Android phones but because it's the new like National Standard everybody has to change to USBC so that means you can plug your phone into your computer and also show your charges with more people so that's cool you won't have like 97 different charges for everything and that will help the environment this has been Aaron explains so you just say this is a thanks for that that's right this is a National Standard is it good good Aaron actually well done you did you did a grand job thanks so much yeah I'm sure you'll get loads of love in the comments for your highly technical explanation you're not wrong though that those should be the benefits of USBC apple is not taking advantage of them and the problem with the speed of data transfer is that you need to have a USB controller that supports it however the iPhone 15 is using last year's a16 bionic chip and it doesn't have that faster controller so that means you're going to get 480 megabits per second or to put it another way USB 2.0 speeds on the iPhone 15. play that thing again what thing at the trombone so it is one of those look what you could have won moments however let's now talk about the iPhone 15 Pro yes can I talk about the titanium please so I was quite excited about this because um titanium's been a a material of the mind that I'm very no it's not mine a material I've been very interesting because my dad had a titanium watch he was a jeweler and he was very excited about it probably in the 80s This was um because it's self-healing to a degree did you know that no I did not yeah so it it actually oxidizes very quickly if it gets lightly scratched so light scratches and if you combine that particularly with the brush finish of the new iPhone should make it look smarter for longer if you're not using case and they're using grade five titanium for this which is used in spacecraft so if you want to fly your iPhone Pro to the Moon you can't because you asphyxiate but the the materials in it to a degree would would be worth it um thanks for that that's right that's lighter that was almost worthy of an airing explains what I thought was interesting is they are bonding it to an aluminum chassis using something called solid state diffusion and I had a look at that and it actually is bonding materials at an atomic level so as I understand it not being a material scientist is that using some very specialized techniques and pressure you basically push the molecules of two different materials together so that they essentially the molecules intermerge as opposed to just kind of being stuck or welded together so what you then get is very high quality joints with no irregularities no porosity so it's good makes a good seal which is good there was a mention I don't know if you spotted it about better thermal performance which I know previous iPhone some have complained about when when it's warm and you're trying to charge it particularly wireless charging not mag safe but standard wireless charging can overheat very quickly will that make it better that that sounds good however does that affect user serviceability the fact that it's basically molecularly bonded together well you'll you'll have to yeah you'll have to buy the whole thing when you but you can change the glass back so that that's there's that there is good yeah that's good and you can probably change the screen I mean you'll need Apple to do it obviously not any kind of independent repair shop because it won't it won't recognize the screen as an official Apple part even if it is yeah unless Apple will do it no but there we go yeah I I think titanium it looks Jolly nice it's I have the iPhone 12 Pro Max which is a big heavy phone and it would be nice to have a lighter phone it is a little bit lighter yeah it's not I mean we're not talking dramatically it's like about 20 grams isn't it yeah and supposedly slightly smaller and they were mentioning seemed like they were talking about smaller bezels but I couldn't see it like a tiny tiny bit thinner but we are talking fractions of a millimeter I think what did you think of the colors Erin yeah I really like the dark I think it's like a bluish kind of tint to it I really like that one I think that looks very smart so they they're doing these like PVD coats on there so you can have it in natural finish or black white or blue I suspect the it's the case back that will be the main source of the color that you see yeah yeah yeah exactly um so contoured edges as well okay yeah it does look slightly different but it still looks like an iPhone yeah and I they're using the same feels like we've been on the same design for a long time now and we were talking about this before we started recording weren't we about how particularly iPhones aren't used to get excited about getting a new phone well if you go back in in the old days so like before you were born Aaron probably this is tragic in it without old but you used to get excited about getting a new phone because different handset manufacturer different design will it be a flip phone when you have a hold out keyboard or all of these different things and nowadays they're all pretty much the same with the exception of of course now the new generations of folding phones what do you think about a folding phone I love a folding phone I think are really cool and very cute so yeah I got a folding thing what's that what is that that is the Samsung Z flip or Z flip five so you can have a play with that later once you've unflipped it though it looks like an iPhone it once once it is open like that it is basically an iPhone but with a more a higher level of friction on the front and of course a crease in the middle when I don't like that I don't like it you wouldn't because you were like you're an iPhone Fanboy but you've also got this like additional screen on the front and it's interesting and it opens up interesting ideas for doing photography and video and other things with your phone and watching content stuff I haven't had much time to play with it yet but I was going to do some videos on the channel but it's gonna have to wait because I'm away for a few weeks now okay so um but at some point I will talk about the Zed flip five and and particularly how the how difficult it is to change these days from Android to Apple or Apple to Android if you're locked into an ecosystem yeah and you never had that before did you but then you never had any ecosystem I mean one of the phones I I was most excited about getting going back to those days when you had all different shapes and sizes I had an orange Sony Ericsson that kind of I can't remember it rotated in some way it was quite quite a it had likes of orange matte and silver finish it was a lovely looking phone and I think it was one of the first phones I had with the color screen I can't even remember what it was now well maybe maybe see if we can get a picture to put in the uh the b-roll maybe um and Ben's Ben's up against it because we've we've got to get this uh this edited this afternoon or not so that we can go away um let's get back to the iPhone 15 Pro Apple has reinvented buttons no they haven't well it made it sound like they had but they so we thought this was coming to all of the iPhones but actually it's just the Pro Series so your your mute switch is now just uh a soft button with haptic feedback and you can choose a number of different actions to run when you press that button by default it will still be the mute sound off yeah so you've got an action button on the Apple watch Ultra and you can program that I have mine programmed to start a workout and I do use it so I can see that being useful okay let's get to the to what is for me the main event and the thing that I've been most excited about for uh the new iPhone and that is to get a sneaky peek at the new chip these are 17 pro a17 pro and this is being built or fabricated on tsmc's three nanometer process and everybody's very excited about the Mac chips the M3 because that's going to be a jump to three nanometer and there's this general feeling that it's going to be a fairly big Leap Forward so what you need to know is that the M chips and the a-chips share core designs so the CPU cores are the design is shared between the two chips an a chip is not an M chip they have different features but they use the same building blocks if you like so we can look at the a chip to a certain extent to give us some idea of what we might get with M3 which based on the speed improvements that were quoted is a little bit disappointing or should we say underwhelming well what they're saying is that the performance course of which there are two there's two performance cores and four efficiency cores in this a17 Pro the two performance cores are ten percent faster for single core performance so what's your take on that it doesn't feel like enough now I think I know the answer to this I think because I read a white paper on tsmc's three nanometer process and I haven't been able to find it again to to quote it directly for the podcast so if anybody has site of this thing and knows where to find it please leave a comment below I will double check so I'm going to do a video on M3 you know I'll do a bit more research but as I understand it you can when you're designing your processor you can choose between three different approaches with a three nanometer process so you've got a more efficient approach so more battery life less performance and you've got a more performant approach so more performance less battery life less efficiency and something in in the middle yeah and as I understand it you can also deploy these for different segments of a system on chips you could have the CPUs using one thing and the gpus using something else if this is the case if I'm if I'm correct about this then that means that Apple can focus on say efficiency rather than performance and that's probably what you would choose to do with an iPhone which doesn't need the performance but does need the battery life yeah now what is true is that all three of these approaches approaches are both more efficient and more performant than the previous tsmc process okay so whichever they choose there will be an improvement but depending on which one they choose it may not be as dramatic as one might think yeah so my take on that is that that's the possibility so it probably is the case for the first time that we can't actually use the a chip as some kind of foreteller of what the performance leap will be for the M chips interesting and you're saying that you in layman's terms has to do with the density of the transistors I I believe so I've got to be honest this month since I I read this thing and it's only popped into my head since watching the the event last night so what we're saying is less dense is not as good as more dense and it's not always true is it Aaron why did you look at there was no need for it no need I couldn't help myself so glad you're on my way thanks um yeah so that that will be interesting to see it be interesting to see other people's views on that in the comments as well because we're obviously excited to see what the M3 brings us yeah so I I'm still quietly confident that M3 will will be more of a Leap Forward than this but again just think Apple might make choices on how the the chip is fabricated for different products uh or chip types which is a big part of the whole move to Apple silicon is to have that choice and that control yeah um let's let's move it on we got um 16 machine learning cores they're two times faster because there's more on-device machine learning going on we've got prores and av1 decoders so there's some media decoding advantages and a USB controller yes that supports the full 10 gigabits per second so if you do have yes it does however go on you have to have the right cable yes it's optional well they're not going to provide a nice Cable in the Box aren't they why not because they don't anymore it's a pro well I suspect if they give you any cable at all it'll probably just be a charging cable I mean this is something that that folks don't always realize it's a USBC cable might just be for charging so when you try and use it for data you get very low speeds so USB 2 speeds rather than full yeah so you do need to buy the right cables that's a good point Pete thank you let's get to the GPU yeah now Apple said there is this is a new Apple designed Shader architecture yes now that to me says that they're moving away from the previous architecture yes which was power VR indeed it was created by imagination Technologies here in the UK which they have to pay a license fee for I believe yes so now that's all been through the courts because way back when Apple basically did their own version of it and then the courts decided they'd have to pay a royalty originally the iPhones did have power VR chips in yes and uh Apple's um tile based deferred rendering is that's something that power VR does so that's where it's all come from but what I'm getting from this is Apple a redesigning part of it I wonder whether that's to um so they don't have to pay the royalties yeah but on the plus side Dave did you notice that this new GPU is 20 faster than the last one yes I did that's amazing um so um how many GPU cores did The Last Ship have well five and how many GPU causes of the new chip got 20 more it's got six hmm anyone spot a problem here don't try and do the maths Aaron don't try and do that I wasn't even attempting it so it would basically seem that the performance is exactly what it was before and what they've done to get the 20 performance gain is add an extra core yeah so I wonder whether apple is using the shift to tsmc's three nanometer process to mask the fact that their new architecture is perhaps slightly less performant than the old architecture at the moment anyway at the moment and I'm sure they'll optimize it as they go yeah if you were going to make that leap Now's the Time to do it where you can cover those deficiencies definitely definitely yeah that was a good spot that I thought they were talking about um Ray tracing weren't they they gave a ray tracing demo yeah so I think lots of folks have known this is coming because they tried to do it previously and didn't get it into M2 or the previous a chip in time so yeah this is all part of the new thing so now you've got Hardware accelerated Ray tracing so if you're playing games that's that's great yeah and the demo they had it side by side from a performance point of view did look good you know that was much smoother I I must have been I'm not a big gamer so um the the ray tracing effects while I get them I get what they're doing I was like yeah that's for me that's not enough justification to to get one of these I think on a you know I've recently stuck an RTX 1490 in my workstation at home and I do a bit of gaming on it and I have tried to Ray tracing it and I have to say it does add realism does a subtle level it's just more realistic interesting does it improve the game you know your actual gameplay experience I don't think it it does personally but uh it's a nice thing to have to have more realistic Graphics we're going to take that aren't we well yeah I suppose if it's something you can have I wouldn't go out looking for it I think playability is much more important than just purely how a game looks hmm I noticed they're also doing the upscaling thing that Nvidia and AMD do as well using machine learning to operate something um that's a mixed bag sometimes it works well sometimes not so much but that's available now to developers what that will mean is that there's more console type games that could come to iPhone yeah yeah they were talking about some some games running natively now on iPhone won't they yeah that possibly couldn't have couldn't have run on it before which does mean that you know it's got way more power than say a Nintendo switch so if you if you're into Mobile gaming and you want to you know if you can attach a handheld controller and you don't mind having the cut out in the middle of your gaming screen on the edge of your gaming screen then um it's a dynamic Island I I don't know how gaming aligns with the pro moniker no personally but so I mean moving into can we move into cameras let's because that's where arguably the pro moniker earns its keep more although did you spot the the picture of the studio photographer taking the picture of the guy wearing the Black Balloon yes Black Balloon trousers they were hilarious trousers yeah and who's going to do that no one is in wear black balloon trousers well No One's Gonna Aaron Aaron you would wouldn't you if they were called Roy you'd be well oh yeah then lately um do we think that any professional or fashion photographers with a full Studio setup are going to shoot on iPhone it does seem like if you've got a full Studio set up it would be a bit remiss I mean we've got a pretty good Studio here if we were then to film on an iPhone it would seem to defeat the object of everything else yeah I think you're going to use a professional camera but nonetheless it's it's that it's good it is good but again I mean we know a professional photographer and he said you can get some amazing shots on a an iPhone but you couldn't potentially go out for a commercial shoot with an iPhone no one would take you seriously no they wouldn't and that applies to video as well yeah and there used to be actually a whole range of cameras made by I think it might have been Panasonic specifically for wedding videographers who didn't need anything but this is huge shoulder mounted camera I'm going back a few years because people expected you to turn up with something like that really yeah so it just looked the part just look the part interesting yeah um so we've got um the equivalent of seven camera lenses what they kept saying basically they're doing cropping with various different things the sensor is larger it's better you can now take 48 megapixel photos in Heath format as well as Pro Raw which is right like a bit of Heath it's good and the pictures did look good I have to say that they do but what you notice about all of those pictures is that they're very well lit and photography is about capturing light so the idea that you can look at those photos and go oh my happy Snaps are going to suddenly be on the next level they're not but yeah they're shot by Pros with a pro setup and pro lighting or Pro reflectors and an understanding of how to light a shot just like do you remember that that cinematic video they showed a couple of iPhones ago yeah the space scene and it looked amazing it was all shot on iPhone but it was actually done you know with proper professional everything else that's it yeah but again looking back on my old photos compared to what what you're seeing here you are going to get better quality so that's a good thing it is good and I like the fact they're using lidar to help with night shots to get better night shots um the pro Max gets a five-time zoom and the pro gets a three time zoom and I think the three times Zoom is probably the best I want to have because of all of the in between there's a big gap then on the pro Max between the largest focal length and all the other focal lengths yeah um that's just speaking personally I'd probably rather have the pro and have the three times lens but I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people out there and it's bragging rights as well isn't it for this mine's longer yeah mine's got a better Zoom that's that's it yeah very clever how they do the they use the prism to extend the focal length on one the cameras I just thought that was such a neat thing and this is what I took away from the whole event is all these iterations are just building on lots of very clever things that we shouldn't we shouldn't take away from the engineers and the Specialists who have lived these it's really clever stuff it is um so finally then on the camera there's a macro feature that looked nice but again it's a Pro Photo so without checking it ourselves who knows and you can now record to an external USBC Drive which is great and in up to 4K 60 prores so and log uh with log color yeah so that that would be great if you're a videographer and you just want to become you don't need to take a b cam you just take your iPhone and we did that is something we we did a video a few years ago on the channel didn't we using the Cinematic features that was a terrible video including her why was it terrible yeah it just bombed because we didn't have enough time to do it justice oh well go back and look at this great it's not it's got Aaron in it unfortunately it's amazing but one of the things we said is the speed with which you're getting files off whereas in this case using an external hard drive or the optional USB 3 plus also the iCloud storage now being available up to 12 terabytes of iCloud storage if you want to sync it that way it's pretty good um there was also another camera feature yeah spatial video oh yeah it's not coming yet there was this later yeah but what a great I mean basically a tie-in to Apple Vision Pro you you rotate your camera and you can then do a stereoscopic basically 3D video and that's very easy to discount but what a great tie into the Apple Vision Pro and yeah I think that's amazing good well I I'm I'm obviously extremely excited about that what I am conscious of is that um timing wise we we're over an hour on this episode yeah and we haven't done prices yet I'm sick of the sight of you and the sound of you so um let's just quickly do do prices because last year uh we here in the UK got basically done over by Apple and we still are being done over when it comes to the Mac lineup but they've taken the opportunity to reduce prices in the UK so this year's iPhones are actually cheaper than last year's iPhones so the whole range is reduced in price interesting so let's just take uh in view of the time we'll just keep it simple now they they do still sell so you've got the SE which hasn't changed uh has dropped in price in the UK I think the cheapest one now been so 429 you can no don't worry haven't got that up on screen Okay so we've got um I think it's 429 for the cheapest one which is like 64 gigs of storage that's that's your entry point to the iPhone range there's a they're still selling the 13 and the 14. and then we get to the 15. so last year your standard 14 cost 849 pounds and now it costs the 15 now costs entry level 799 so it's a 50 pound saving there over the savings yeah that's worth having isn't it and then the the 14 plus was 949 pounds so the 15 plus now is 899. 899 so another 50 pound saving sounds pretty good so I'm just going to move your microphone down okay that's it good and um then let's move on to the pros so last year a 14 pro would have cost you 1099 pounds this year a 15 Pro will cost you 199. 100 pounds now the pro Max 14 pro Max last year cost 1199 now 15 Pro Max is going to cost you 1199 same price but there is a difference yes it starts at 256. yay here we go 2023 and we've got at least one phone in the lineup starting with 256 gigs of storage yeah I do have to wonder if the the 128 starting on the pro is just to get it under the thousand pound price point it um it possibly is although it's the same in the in the US where the price is the same isn't it as prices haven't changed in the US so but here in the UK the exchange rate has improved against the dollar since they put the prices up so it's fair that we get the the reduction and I think this is really good news because if Apple uses the new product lines as an opportunity to reduce the price then we'll see that in Max as well and iPads and everything else well you would hope so and then I can say by grab fast hammer or the savings thanks for that those who know no no uh let's just do the watch as well uh watch eight Watch series 8 would have cost you before the event 479 pounds a watch series 9 will cost what then uh starting level 399. wow 80 quid off yeah that's quite a saving and uh watch eight no it's not watch eight Ultras it's just watch Ultra that was 849 pounds and now the ultra 2 is looking up Aaron's tired and bored okay 799 7.99 so we're saving uh 50 Quid on the ultra tee so what does that tell you apart from putting the exchange rate aside um well just that there's not much different to last year yeah and I I suspect Apple have looked at that and as well as the exchange rate they've probably looked at it and gone well we can't you know justify a massive price High Court indeed a hike at all so they want to keep their sales buoyant and this is a way of doing it I think you're probably right yeah and I think it actually I mean we were all thinking the uh titanium finish would certainly add to the cost yeah and it hasn't done it's just surprising although it used surgical grade steel before didn't it which is fairly pricing anyway I believe so an an interesting event uh with some interesting sort of things that we can derive for the future of the Mac um some good news for UK buyers that the prices are finally coming down we you know we've been suffering massive inflation here so everybody's struggling with cost of living and don't forget there's that knock-on effect as well because that means that you can buy you know go and buy an iPhone 13 for example I don't know what those costs you have up on the screen at all then no six six fifty yeah I mean all of the the prices Cascade downwards so everything becomes a bit cheaper good news for everybody a little bit more performance and some iterations in the phones that's great should you rush out to upgrade to iPhone 15 if you're already on 14 no no no I'm to be honest I'm we're due for new phones and I'm Still rocking my iPhone 12 Pro Max and I'm struggling to find motivation to change it I'm exactly the same uh and to be honest with you I think that's another win for the environment because if people aren't going out and replacing things just because they have to have the newest because it's got some killer feature on it well that's that's good isn't it yeah that's a bit more moderation would be good for all of us yeah for sure good well guys I hope uh and girls sorry yeah I hope you all enjoyed the podcast episode of uh first outing in season four uh what you would have noticed of course is that this is now back on the main channel so we're not using the separate Channel anymore because YouTube now has a separate feature for podcasts the whole reason that we put it on the other channel previously is because Apple didn't Apple YouTube did I say afterwards no you said YouTube earlier but you said up all that time well what used to happen is you'd put up a podcast and of course not many people are going to watch a long podcast compared to a short Tech episode so YouTube would just kill your channel every time you you put a podcast up so hopefully that won't happen anymore it would be great to know like like you said at the beginning we're going to be doing less episodes but we'd love to know from you guys what you'd like to see from us if you'd like to see us at all I mean you might look at this and go oh no way Jose in which case just stick with him but if you would like to see more what would you like to see absolutely yeah we're open to ideas we make the show for you guys so um yeah anything you want let us know in the comment section and I think we should probably wrap it up there thank you Ben and Aaron for being here it wouldn't literally wouldn't be the same without you um and yeah thanks Pete it's always a pleasure to have a conversation with anyone apart from you thanks but unfortunately we're stuck with each other so sometimes I talk to myself because it's the only way I can be sure of intelligent conversation and on that note let's say Cheerio folks cheerio I think my bits are really really good I mean you sucked I did amazingly also Aaron explains this now I've got popular part of that podcast for who for me she'll love it yeah you didn't see anybody doing the Apple event gestures that's right podcast we should have done some of those do you think they all went on a horse riding Expedition the day before because they were all standing like they're a bit saddle stillforeign yes Pete um you know my two turtles Tyler and Bonnie no I've got two turtles I've been trying to breed it's not going too well it was going well at one time I thought they were falling in love but now it just seems they're falling apart um I don't know what to do it's a turtle Eclipse of the Heart don't laugh at him don't encourage him I liked how long it was it was a really long joke with with a really Naf punchline can I just say thanks that's okay that's kind of half of the course it is yeah well welcome back everybody we're we're back we are indeed back a constant GQ podcast and we shall call this season four episode one because that's what it is it is indeed and coming up in the show today we're going to be talking about Apple's event that's just happened the wonderlust event and uh the new iPhones new Apple watches uh we're going to be asking what the new a17 Pro chip means for M3 and also there's some good news finally for UK buyers so all of that coming up first of all it's nice uh nice to be back Pete it's been a long time it has I've forgotten what you look like that must have been good for you it was a blessing and now it's all traumatized back but never mind you've got the same problem on the other other side of the actually I have to look at you and also I have to look at Aaron who's right opposite me Aaron's here everybody I'm here I'm gonna improve this book are you gonna improve it by talking into your microphone though or are you gonna just yeah well I don't know it's like here okay yeah that should be fine yeah and all expense has indeed been spared because we have one microphone between you and Ben so yeah I love it good and uh Ben's here everybody so you look at that seamless just turn the Micron hello Ben salutations excellent Ben's my son what most people probably don't realize is that Ben does most of the editing on the constant geekery Channel and asked to put up with uh with me fluffing my lines and doing terrible jokes and things like that he must have the patience of a scene that's all I'm saying he does he does a grand job well then Ben not even 16 yet so you're not no what a legend wow good that's enough of that how are you Erin my fingers I've got bruised fingers because I did like a blood test and you have to like stab your fingers and now they're bruised like you have to like milk like your fingers of blood sorry no no no hang on hang on just stop there remember you have to do what to your fingers you have to milk them that's what I said something like oh what does that look like it's hard you have to like rub your hand like this to make up a blood go in this little tube it's really gross are you sure you were reading the right instructions for the right thing you had just bought a dairy farm or something did you get this off of eBay or was it an official medical NHS Medical and basically a doctor they probably got off eBay they probably did ah well thank you for that thanks for sharing Aaron anytime and uh liking the outfit today thank you it's my outfit well what the viewers won't be able to see is that you're in in full denim today double denim double denim the perfect outfit combination and under the denim I can't help but notice that you're wearing a neck curtain just just let me enjoy an outfit for once there's no need for it my mum said that I look like a pirate it's just a confidence boost I needed but you are thanks mum are you able to do a pirate accent for us our new Apple stuff wow it was like I was transported back in time onto some pirate ship somewhere it's just so authentic it was quite a seamless segue though into new Apple stuff new Apple stuff yeah all kind of new Apple stuff what I will say is that um before we before we get too far into the Apple stuff or indeed into it at all um the the podcast and we will put chapters in the description for those of you who don't want to listen to us waffle although that is sort of the point of a podcast I think so probably and we do do some waffling all we do and I've forgotten even what I was gonna say you were gonna say something about the podcast and chapters yeah so we um we stopped doing the podcast because we were finding it impossible to do it on a weekly basis so um it's taken us a long time to get some energy back to do it it won't be on a weekly basis I think we've got to say that um partly because I'm not here for the next like three or four weeks anyway so Erin celebrate you had a mad busy period with our web business DP so you are available to do stuff and then we made the decision to refit the studio so hopefully you like what you're seeing it's not finished yet uh and we certainly haven't finished playing around with the lighting and there's a panel behind Ben there that's uh not finished yet and it's very heavy so just be careful it doesn't fall over onto your head Aaron I mean it would make this a lot more fun wouldn't it be like a cool little it'd be some kind of content restriction on though and we wouldn't we wouldn't want anything to happen to you we wouldn't that sounds like lies anyway how did you get out of your prison cell uh I've got like a paper clip and they'll say bribe the card so that's quite good okay okay we paid for a guard not very much clearly not enough so anyway here here we have an Apple event how excited were you before the Apple event Pete uh do you want me to do it on a scale of one to ten yes please I was probably a five or a six okay and then as the event started sort of five minutes into the event I'd only come across as negative but maybe a five or a six okay and then maybe half an hour into the event probably a five or a six okay and when they were really talking up the environmental stuff oh oh well that was a highlight so probably a five or a six good it was it was a very vanilla event is what I'm getting at it was a little bit um there is not a massive massive Leap Forward is there in in anything that they were talking about no I mean Apple have always been about the marketing haven't they they've always been good with their marketing but that felt like a very long drawn out event for not a great deal of actual product news yeah I saw somebody on Twitter said that all of that could have been done by a press release yes I sort of agree with yeah but that's not the way they do things anymore no um so let's talk about it it starts off rather predictably and I think I did predict that it would be the Apple watch Saved My Life segment to get started yeah which we we joke about but if if you were one of the people it's one of those things isn't it some of these features on the Apple watch are a bit like Insurance you hope you never need it it's not a particularly exciting thing but if you do need it you're very grateful you've got it absolutely and there was a few examples of those who had um where the the Apple watch were detected high heart rate you know and that prompted them to seek medical help and uncovered other issues so that was nice and a couple of guys who use the SOS satellite thing which I understand is now available in the UK it is so do you have that now on your your Apple watch Ultra version one I don't I've not looked into it because I've not really been hanging off a mountain there aren't that many mountains in England to hang off In fairness no and I'm not normally a hanger offer of things there aren't many bears either no but if I ever got cornered by one in my bedroom then you could maybe get help yeah maybe um but yeah it's it's one of those features that we we do tend to mock it a little bit but actually it's it's a really good thing if you're in a situation where you need it and we're going to talk about how they've extended that in a bit I guess so um my Apple watch gave me a heart rate warning the other day did it it's a high heart rate really yeah do you know where it did it were you exercising I was not I was I was traveling and it was on Friday oh okay so we had a little company outing didn't we we did so we took uh our staff up to to London did you enjoy your day in London Aaron I had a wonderful time it was so English and we we did a fair amount of walking I think it's fair to say A Little Piece of Me in London it was good fun my Apple watch told me I bought 10 miles in London I definitely felt that the next day but that's not the point of the Apple watch story it was on the bus on the way homes we'd charted or hired a a bus and the driver starts yawning part way on the journey home and the frequency of the yawning is increasing and the his speed is becoming a bit more erratic and his steering not you know how like when you've got a road with two lanes yeah yeah he was very liberal about um being in both of them at the same time I was making good use of the road he was using all of the road and I'm like I guess my heart rate was obviously High because I was under under stress I'm watching him like a hawk at the front of the bus in the end I I told him that he had to pull over did he uh well he attempted to but then he sort of crashed the bus into a curb and which woke everyone up on on the bus I don't even know why I'm asking if he did it because I was on the same bus so I know he did but I was asleep and that did wake me up yeah it's like a lay-by and there's a curb to sort of split the lay-by from the from the road and we're on a long straight road and he just didn't see it at all and just drove straight over it at 70 miles an hour whatever it was or maybe if your eyes are closed you wouldn't see it no it's ridiculous anyway we uh we did get him to pull over and got him outside where he had a cigarette and then he was super vigilant for the next 40 miles that's good that's good but it is interesting going back to the point that you're you're watching noticed an increase in your heart rate so it works yeah obviously that wasn't for a for a health reason could have been for a health reason if he'd have crashed and killed us all or could it have been a false flag Could you actually have a health reason that you now think was just panicked coach driving when actually you know you've got a problem I didn't think about that so if I drop that at some point then you'll know it wasn't a bus well it might not be you might drop dead for other reasons excellent it's like well that's that's um some pretty good insights for for the viewers and listeners um let's uh move on to Mac because Mr cook made out like he was going to talk Mac got excited about that didn't we we thought oh is there going to be some kind of Mac announcement and all he did was said we've launched our fastest Max and um and talked up the 15-inch MacBook Air which is apparently now the most popular laptop in the lineup which is probably Fair well they are very good I have to say I've done a review of one on the channel because I've got one for my wife just the entry level model and I have to say what a fantastic laptop yeah you're pleased with it she's pleased with it yeah I shouldn't use it that much In fairness but I I played with it for a bit and I yeah it's nice nice screen nice good size you like a slightly larger laptop I've got a 14 inch MacBook Pro at the moment I find it a tad on the small side it's fine but I will say actually the I like a smaller laptop but sometimes I just like to have two apps side by side and it's just not quite large enough on the 14 inch whereas the 15 inches yeah absolutely I can imagine that if they made a 15 inch MacBook Pro I'd probably get that one like they did in the past yeah got the massive one or the little one yeah um they did uh just highlight they'd completed the Apple silicon transition which we already knew about anyway and then they were talking about Vision Pro and hype in that and saying that they're still on target to deliver early in 2024. yeah and of course with WWDC where that was announced they were obviously briefing developers on stuff that they could then build using Vision Pro and they've they've reported back that they're excited or Tim's reported back that he's excited with some of the things that they're being shown so I I am interested to see what will be developed because it's a bit like when the iPhone was released there was suddenly all these things that developers could do using the the iPhone ecosystem and Vision Pro is is another thing like the watch where you've got different applications different sensors so I'm very intrigued to see what they do with it beyond the obvious yeah I'm looking forward to it um I don't know that we're gonna buy one though they're quite expensive aren't they for what is a fairly singularly focused device yeah I I can't see I can't see the benefit but then you never know I mean you've got to try how many that's that's the thing well if an app comes along that allows you to sort of Video Edit I mean imagine if you've got a timeline if you can go into DaVinci or Final Cut Pro in The Vision Pro and then you can look at a timeline going all the way over like that wouldn't that be amazing yeah I'm not convinced it's necessary but yeah that'd be interesting it would be it is necessary I think it'd be fantastic to for Cinema for watching movies if the battery lasted a bit longer but um unless you're watching quite a short movie it's not going to cut it I think it's under two hours battery life how does that sound I do because I have the Oculus Quest first one and the battery life on that was pretty decent um and I used to be able to watch movies on that as well and the price point of apple one is just wild compared to that so how do you get on with VR I love VR I think it's brilliant absolutely love it it doesn't make you want to puke I was all good with it yeah I got like slightly motion because of course we on the channel we reviewed some um glasses that project a monitor in front of you and I actually found that made me a bit queasy at times as well so I I'm not very good with it Ben you um you'd like to play a bit of VR I do would you like to try the Apple Vision Pro do you see I I don't really see a point in it I'll be honest I I don't think I'd have application for it because I have a VR headset myself as well and I think it does enough and with it likely going to be costing best part of three thousand pounds you might have to save up for a little while yeah yeah and I don't disagree with any of those things particularly the price point but one of the things Apple has always been very good at is taking a product that's already in the market or a the type of product that's already in the market and claiming they invented it no sorry carry on people no they do do that but they then they then take it to a point where it becomes part of day-to-day use now I'm not necessarily saying that the Vision Pro is that next device but you think about the iPad in fact let's start with the iPhone there were touch screens before that the Nokia n95 was the one I was looking at before the iPhone came out do you remember that and then the iPhone came out and that was really the basis for every phone we have now which is something we're going to talk about a bit later same with the iPad others have tried to do a tablet and it hadn't worked even even the Apple watch has been something that is now much more commonly accepted I'm not saying that there weren't good ones before but Apple are very good at seeing how people use a product and then just developing the sort of the the full answer to that product yeah I think they are and it's easy to we like to poke a bit of fun at Apple I mean we use Apple products we give them a lot of our money so it's nice it's nice to have a balanced view of them and I can remember when the iPad was launched and it got mercilessly mocked because of the name you know everyone was saying it sounded like a feminine hygiene product and uh we did mock it but when iPad 2 came out you know I was there at the moment of launch to go and buy one so it was very quick to go from a product that was kind of like no one's ever going who's going to want a big iPhone kind of to a big iPod or whatever you need to um this product that everybody had to have so Apple has done that stuff of course we're a long way down the road now and the innovation has kind of happened and now we're more into iteration rather than Innovation whatever um Apple would like us to believe but let's let's talk Apple watch if we can yeah so meet the new Apple watch same as the old Apple watch pretty much uh well it looks the same it does it's got a new color hasn't it Erin do you like the pink the shade I wish it was like a hot pink I've always Tim never gives me what I want you know done I'll take a I'll take a pastel pink for now but hot pink next time please Tim he's taking one like a hot thing no but you said something a pastel pink dude yeah it's a pastel pink passed out it's fine isn't it passed out pink I think is so um but yeah so it looks pretty much the same it does it's got a new chip in it though hasn't it yes which they're calling the S S9 it has no GPU for um animations are slightly better do you find on your Apple watch that the animations are a bit laggy I I gotta be honest I I'm not really a big Apple watch user I've been wearing mine of late um because I'm interested in in monitoring heart rate um but I yeah I I'm this works fine this is a series six and the only downside to it is I managed to crack the um non-replaceable plastic front I think they are Sapphire now aren't they so they're A Bit Stronger Yeah Yeah but so I can't take it in the water anymore can I go swimming with this now that kind of defeats the object a little bit because you swim quite a lot to me no I do yeah um so then we've got also in the chip is if it had machine learning calls before but it has four machine learning cores and neural engine and this is to power Siri which is now working on device yeah for the most common things but not everything yeah so what this means is if you don't have a Wi-Fi or a Cellular Connection then you'll you'll actually be able to use Siri so so that's progress I guess one might say that and uh no one's ever done that before on device voice assistant didn't um just going back to Windows phone wasn't Cortana on this oh would you just stop with the windows phone it's not come it's dead it was not coming back it was so good though because you could actually dictate a text message whilst you're driving through an area with no phone coverage and it would still work whereas the iPhone never did do you know what annoys me about Siri is that you can you can dictate a message but if it can't get a connection when you when you're driving it won't say I'll hold that until I've got a signal so you might have sent or composed a very long message and it says I'm sorry I'm having trouble with the connection what would be really really nice this would be really Innovative apple is to just say do you want me to send that when I have a connection again yes please Siri do that I mean how hard must that be so does it just just forget it so I've activated Siri on my Apple iPad so yeah it just forgets it and you have to re-re-dictate it well they are saying that dictation is improved by 25 percent I don't know I mean Apple were very fast and loose with the percentages and improvements aren't they so but improved dictation um some Health Data are also accessible via Siri as well yeah so you could say things like how how long did I sleep last night or things like that as opposed to sort of thinking about you know what time did I go to bed and get to sleep and when did I wake up I'm so old school how did we know how we slept before Apple it's a mystery uh 18 hours of of battery life do it I feel like that's six hours shorter where it all to be at least I mean I don't have that problem because I got the ultra well you know good for you um it's good and do you have you found that your um left bicep is much bigger now after carrying the the ultra it's absolutely fine okay it's actually quite a reassuring weight something they have added to to the which is a second generation Ultra wideband chip yeah so you can now use your Apple watch to Ping your phone and find it with high degree of accuracy yes which is great if you've lost your phone although I did think you know Tim did mention we never leave for home without our phone and if we do we go back and get it you did say that so I'm not sure how often that will be used but maybe maybe some people are more likely to ah yes I'm going to jump in here and say I lose my phone in my bedroom like 24 7. because I just like put it down somewhere and then I left it in the fridge the other day yeah sorry sorry what you did what with your phone I was making a sandwich and I went to I was like watching stuff on my phone as I was making my sandwich because um and then I put the butter back in the fridge shut it and then spent like five minutes trying to find my phone and then open the fridge and it was just on top of the butter and I've done that before as well that's not even like a first time in the fridge kind of thing just out of Interest did someone call you and you just picked up the butter and put it to your ear hello yeah um I can't just say what kind of masochist puts butter in the fridge what are you just eating like warm butter well then you can spread it yeah as opposed to like dragging a piece of freezing cold butter across your toast and ripping the bread apart but it's spreadable lacto free butter okay so it's not so it's not good it's spread it is butter which is the worst butter it's the worst word isn't it would you like some spread of your bread it's like no I wouldn't give me some butter so I was going to tell you a story then about a restaurant that I went to with with a butter issue but I'm not going to because that's not about Apple let's get back to the point and Erin seriously why do we employ you I just because enjoy your happiness to the company you actually just admit it to us so that you put your phone in the fridge yeah well you guys are such good friends to me you won't use that in any way so and we won't we won't put it on the internet where it potentially tens of thousands of people will find out about your your fridge rabbits your milky fingers thank you that's your freezing cold food I suppose you probably get better performance when you put it in the fridge you might do actually yeah that's true it's true processes work better when they're cold it might reset the battery Aaron's battery life is probably amazing well you heard it here first top tip keep your phone in the fridge yeah there you go um let's just cover off the other the other bits there's something about it syncing up with homepod I don't use homepod so I can't comment on that why are you pointing at me oh the pinch gesture you know that's that's always been there no it hasn't it has it's part of the accessibility settings of your watch you can clench your an unclench so if you switch on accessibility please don't use the word clench again on the book on the podcast it depends what you're clenching Pete um I'm talking about hands here detect if you were milking your fingers oh that's handy yeah yeah it was great imagine the Microsoft desk it looks like you're milking your fingers do you want help with that it'll be like the hand washing thing whatever it will say you haven't milked them enough going ah okay finger tap gesture though so it's something that's been part of the accessibility settings but they are formalizing it now I think actually the stuff in the accessibility wasn't specifically a double tap and it wasn't hugely reliable so they've obviously improved it yeah they did say that they're using a combination of biometric signals to determine and learn and this is where the machine learning course come in again to be able to detect the the tap gesture that your your own wrist and hand generates so it should get better over time which is quite clever yeah is it something you think you would use I do I do think it's one of those things that we will mark and I'm not planning to get one of these new new watches um but when when the time comes for a new one I suspect it will be the sort of thing like I often put this I press one of the buttons on my phone to snooze my alarm in the morning and just being able to do that I can see that becoming second nature and to hang up a phone call maybe I could see it becoming something you do for certain actions not probably everything that you can program it for you know you're just going to see loads of people now walking down the street doing the the tap I reckon there's a whole business to be had there in making sock puppets for those people okay do you do you remember what was the name of the sock puppet on red dwarf I don't remember Mr flipple was it Mr flipple I don't know yeah what I do know Pete is that you know we traditionally do most of our business ventures together but that's one I won't be joining you on this oh I'll let you I'll let you do your own sock puppets I've got another business idea that we'll talk about in a minute as well okay all right really look forward to that uh the screen is brighter so it can go all the way up to 2000 nits which I believe is twice the number of nits that you've got in the S8 but it can also go down can't it can to one one one knit so if you're in a very dark very dark space like almost like a dungeon airing or like a locked room then you would still be able to tell the time if you had an Apple Watch do you have an Apple Watch I don't have an Apple watch um so then we had to sit through a whole bunch of environmental cringe can I just ask before we move on do you do you get an itchy head when someone starts talking about knits no okay it's just me yeah did you just really do the knits joke again have I already done that joke in the past you probably have you'll have forgotten obviously being as elderly As You Are something I I was going to say earlier and I forgot to so because you're elderly probably um is that some people were feeding back on our old podcast and there was there was a small here's a small percentage Aaron small percentage of people who didn't like the way that we you know give you give you abuse on the on the podcast yes because you're really really mean no it's because they are laboring under the illusion that you're really you know a nice person really innocent that you don't you know I would say she is a nice person I will go on there as saying that but she is brutal I will say you guys can't keep giving net jokes because both of you are losing your hair oh there it is oh let's see honestly folks if any of you on the old podcast thought that we were we were dishing out to Aaron believe me she can give it back and we're trying to encourage her to do that on the podcast on the podcast Erin I'm a podcast you'd have to do it like all the time well you know I'm quite sensitive about my hair I can't believe that good you would say something so mean and cruel which one I'm writing this down in my notes as points to bring up more often you're giving away all your weak spots don't do that I wouldn't have said it if I really meant it um environmental stuff yeah so we sort of had to sit through quite a bit of this and I always find myself taking a bit of a negative view of it because at the end of the day we're talking about a company that's sold as ssds into MacBooks and I've tried to cover this on the channel and a lot of viewers don't really get what I'm trying to say with this but um so I think it's worth just talking about for a moment I I I think it's a terrible thing to do to soldering an SSD because if your SSD fails for any reason your whole machine is toast and they can fail um typically in an apple machine when the older Intel machines if it failed it was because the power chip supplied power to the SSD went wrong and supplied too much voltage to the SSD and fried it the ssds themselves are completely reliable this is the annoying thing if if nothing goes wrong like that and bear in mind only a tiny percentage are faults but for the majority of machines it will Outlast all of the rest of the components of the machine but that doesn't matter because if you're the one who's got a failed one that's gutting to lose your your whole machine and if you're out of warranty the usual stupidity applies where basically apple is going to throw away a perfectly good machine because of this design choice now how can you claim to be environmentally friendly at the same time as doing that and being so obstructive with repairs of laptops I get where you're coming from and I've got an interesting thought on right to repair that will come to you a bit later um but I think you've you've kind of argued yourself out of this by saying it's such a small percentage yes it is gutting if you're one of the ones that is affected by it it's really annoying but you've got to look at the bigger bigger picture and the numbers haven't you I suppose if you're talking about Apple's overall environmental credentials then yes but uh I still think it's it's dumb and it's unnecessary and apple themselves have proved it that it's unnecessary because if you buy the Mac Studio the nunchip is a replaceable device yeah but at the same time if if they am I right in saying that if they didn't solder the SSD on then you're going to make the chassis of the MacBooks thicker I don't believe that personally I think they could do it okay so why you think it's a cynical thing to stop you being able to repair it yourself um well I think Apple would put it under the guise of security and there's another issue that goes on here which is happening on a wide scale and that is when corporates get rid of their stock of computers and because they can't just take the hard drives out which is what they would used to do you'd have the IT department would remove the the hard drive or the SSD whatever and then they would hire some company to do the disposals and what they would then do is refer a bit a new drive in and sell it on yeah um Apple devices you can't do that on which means somebody would have to sit there and zero out all of the drives and they can't be bothered so they hand them off to these companies and when these companies get them they can't actually do anything because invariably they're locked with the Apple ID and so they can't even get access to the machine you can't boot it from an external device they can't replace the SSD so they're left with this situation where they can't actually do anything with it and they can't dismantle it for parts and sell the parts on the second-hand Market because Apple will actively go after anybody who's doing that interesting it has to be turned into powder you know it has to be pulverized and and recycled through Apple's approved recycling chain and I just think what a shocking waste of these computers can go on for years and years and years and yet corporations what how what are they going to do three to five years they're going to be turfing these things out and sometimes even less than that and you've got perfectly good machines going into the scrap and you know you have some good points there and maybe that is something that Apple do have in the pipeline is the recognition of that maybe maybe they will just say well you know in the Modern Age you do turn them back into powder but that does seem very wasteful I think the environmental stuff I've seen I've seen some posts on LinkedIn about it this morning so I'm loading it that little mother nature skit that everyone took part in um others mocking it a little bit and I thought it was a bit cringy that the skit but I thought about it after we watched it and they're clearly trying to do something um and this is a step in the right direction it's one product lineup just the Apple watch isn't it but they're clearly trying I think they went on a bit too much about it but um and the other thing is we don't know how big this is in the scheme of things because they're saying oh we've done this many billions some things I can't even remember there was that they said they'd done billions not millions of but how much is that compared to the rest of what Apple's doing as such a large corporation around the planet yeah so they actually put this segment in between Apple Watch series 9 and Apple watch Ultra 2. and of course we realized towards the end of the the sequence is that they're only talking about Apple watch however I think it is really cool that if you buy an Apple Watch series 9 with a sport Loop specifically then that is a carbon neutral product yeah well that's that's a fantastic achievement that is laudable yeah so I you know it's great I just you know the right to repair and everything else we just wish that uh Apple was a bit more open like that now what they did surprisingly make a comment about the iPhone and its replaceable glass back on the the pro model and how that you know can be easily replaced keeping the iPhone going for longer I think that's the first time I've really heard Apple talking about that kind of thing yeah they also mentioned something else I know we're going to sort of segue into the iPhone in a minute but obviously one of the things we're going to talk about is the connectivity which we'll go into more detail on the in a minute but I did see someone this morning I can't even remember what out that it was on saying well that's a load of lightning cables that are going to be put in landfill and it's like well first of all no it's not because not everyone's going to go out and replace them straight away they're not going to throw them away because there'll always be some device hanging around the house with it in and and secondly have you ever known the lightning cable to last more than 12 months they will die mine do but I take meticulous care of my stuff so um anyway so that here's my next business side here recyclemycable.com yeah okay so you know send it to someone who can then process it down because there are valuable things in the cable um metals and all that kind of stuff or you know you resell on the cable to someone who needs it yeah and if Apple were supporting longer life spans of of products then those things go on for a long time and I think they should do that because Apple makes its money most of its money shortly from selling apps and services and skimming off on every time you use Apple pay they're taking a chunk yeah so is it not in their interest to have a thriving used market for their products because all of those customers whilst they haven't paid Apple for the device they will be paying Apple for all the other stuff that's a really good point and and they did make as well as holding its value I don't know if you noticed there was a lot of push for trading trade in on if you're trade in this phone you'll get quite a lot back towards your new phone well what's going to happen to those phones they're going to be sold as refurbished I I would expect they'll be kept as Replacements or soldiers refurbished it's possible when they'll be sold as three first or ground down and recycled all that yeah anyway I'm conscious of time let's move on Apple watch Ultra too I don't think there's much to say about this it looks like apple it's identical from a chassis point of view identical slightly brighter screen 3000 nits I I have to say if you're thinking about getting one and you've got well you'll know if you've already got an ultra watch I've never thought the screen is not bright enough under any conditions I've used it in yet so I spent most people won't notice that I thought it's quite nice um to get the Bluetooth accessories for cycling so you can put Cadence Sensor on your bike and connect it up to your watch Ultra that's quite cool I wasn't paying attention at that point but yes okay so Apple watch Ultra 2 is a thing and I think again there is one particular strap that you can buy that with and you get again it's a a carbon neutral product yes so well done apple good let's talk about iPhone oh was there any new iPhones I I will quote directly they said about the iPhone 15 an all-new design what has got slightly more contoured edges and it's got that nice textured infused glass back and that's that's kind of cool yeah I thought that was great because it's going to be less fingerprints and probably you're going to have a better grip on it if you don't put a case on it yeah but of course everyone's going to put a case on it so um because they're so expensive we'll come to pricing at the end and they're like I said there is some good news for for UK buyers Dynamic Island comes to iPhone 15 it seems like Apple's going all in on that so we're stuck with Dynamic Island for a bit yeah it's I've not used it because I've got my iPhone 13 at the moment so I don't know it seems to be a bit of a Marmite thing some people love it some people hate it I wonder if it's a bit like the notch on the the MacBook after a while you just don't notice yeah I guess um the display as a super retina xdr OLED slightly brighter than it used to be and that's about as far as we need to talk about that it's two sizes 6.1 inch 6.7 inch in the plus and the colors which color would you have Eric um I'd probably go for the blue or the pink one um I was thinking what about you Ben if you were gonna go for one of these iPhones what color would you black black excellent good choice they are all a bit Pastor Lee sorry pastali still um but you know some people are going to really love that and changing the colors each year is classic marketing trick isn't it to keep people definitely changing and and don't don't forget the increase in battery life was there one yeah yeah so the standard 15 has 20 hours with video feedback or should I say up to 20 hours with video video of video playback right the 15 plus 26 hours and that's three more hours over the iPhone 12. the iPhone 12 that's what it says on the website excellent that's that's quite a few phones ago yeah yeah at least three interesting I wonder why that is I'm sure you'll let us know in the comments um incidentally if you fancy leaving a comment on the podcast in future episodes of the podcast we will feature some of those comments and uh so if you've got questions and stuff we will feature those as a section and do answers give you a shout out on the podcast um something else this phone gets is and some people have basically been saying yeah this is last year's Pro which is not far from the truth it's got the same chip it's the a16 bar neck and it's now got the 48 megapixel sensor which is a quad pixel sensor so you're actually getting 12 megapixel images of it yep but with those extra picture pictures I'm inventing new words pixels with those extra pixels you can better evaluate light so in low light conditions you get a better quality image that kind of thing yeah um that's great I mean it seems to me that the main focus of a smartphone these days is the camera yeah I was looking back on photos that I've taken on the many iPhones I've had since my first one which I think was a five possibly a four and iPhone's always taking good picture and actually there's many other smartphones out there that take really good pictures as well um but you you can see a noticeable improvement over time in terms of you know uh color richness depth just the overall quality of the image and also I don't know if you've noticed now we just take it for granted because it what we're seeing is iterations now small increments so you have to go back quite a few years to see a difference but it's not just the quality of the images it's the speed with which you can get your camera out now and take a really good what we call a snap you know you're not you're not thinking the first phones are quite relatively speaking slow and you still had to really think about getting the image right whereas now you take a picture and you think oh it's blurred give it a second for the ml computational photography to go through and bang actually it's not very very clever so none of us in the mass Market are professional photographers but it is giving us better quality memories and experiences in our day-to-day life so I think that's a good thing yeah it is and that's what it's all about isn't it these these devices are sort of the hub for your life these days so a good camera is good um something that they've done that I think is quite useful is you've got two times Zoom all they're doing is cropping the sensor to get that but you still get a 12 megapixel image but it is um pixel per pixel you know it's a it's a proper full resolution 12 megapixel image yeah which is which is great yeah and they're also now capturing a depth map with each photo so what this means is that afterwards if you if you've detected it it'll detect if there's someone in the shot and capture a depth map so that afterwards you can turn it into a portrait photo if you want to you know this is this AI artificial blurring of the background I think you can do Post Focus as well yeah I don't I didn't pick up and I haven't checked maybe this is something for you to just check now Ben I thought that was a pro only feature the post Focus you know they did definitely mention it for the other one did they though they did did they so you've got the a16 bionic the other thing that's gone into the phone is a second generation Ultra wide bandship just like in the watch so your you you now with find me you your stalking performance is is much improved that's tongue-in-cheek folks and and I use the app to um you know the whole family were on the find my app it's kind of useful to know where each other is but I do I do call the app stalk my wife so I can see where she is at any time it is really useful though isn't it if you you sort of like getting ready to go out and you're waiting for someone to come home from a certain location to get a little notification when they leave if you're cooking dinner or something like that that's good that's great yeah good could you find any information on that pin on the post Focus stuff I do believe it's on all iPhone 15s told you excellent that's what you said in it that's exactly what I said I think if you rewind it that's what you'll find I said that's what it was um so we we've just been talking about how your telephone can take great photos but what always seems to be missing from these uh events is how's the quality of your phone calls yes and just as I was thinking it this time they started talking about it so now they're using machine learning to do voice isolation on phone calls it sounds very impressive it did very useful I would say yeah because how many times do you have that when you're in a noisy environment and someone can't hear you the only thing I thought about it was a really good demonstration but it doesn't work of course you can still hear that environment so it can be difficult to hear your own thoughts if you're in a noisy environment but obviously there are times when you need to make that call so that's a great feature very cool the other thing I've got noted down before the obvious Peak changes emergency SOS via satellite is in the phone and it says two years free and it's not available all over the world but it is available in the UK now yep so since we're in the UK that's kind of useful and the roadside assistance feature as well using the same technology yeah but only available in the states as we understand at the moment and you get it if you've got a triple a membership I say so this is via satellite roadside assistance device yeah yeah um so that's all good now of course the the big change that everyone knew was coming because the EU demanded it is that uh they moved to uspc now um we've been thinking about this new section for the podcast yes we don't have a jingle yet Aaron I'd like Pete to just hum one that's all right Pete could you could you come here a jingle we're going to call this segment Erin explains yeah and we will get a jingle but I am happy to hum one for now we've got this cool new mixer thing with with all sorts of effects so we could do something like oh that's pretty cool that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good did that actually say Aaron explains well that's what I said oh did you say it and I I said it well swell's putting a filter on oh can I have it can I have a go yeah let me let me choose a fill let me choose a filter that's appropriate for you hang on Aaron explains he's not working on me well can we please have you for the rest of the podcast speaking like one of the Chipmunks Look let's get on with it Aaron explains hello I'm Aaron you may have noticed me earlier in the podcast and I'm gonna explain USBC have you got notes on your phone yeah I've got notes on my phone because this is the level of confidence you should have dear viewers and listeners it's gonna be amazing okay Aaron what does USB stand for why would you say that I don't you know that I don't know that so have break it down what do you think the U stands for and please don't say umbrella Universal very good there you go she knows her stuff let's hurry up right USBC has more power so for normal lightning cable which is on most iPhones at the moment uh can carry a 2.4 a current whereas a USBC can carry a 3A current up to a 5A current so that's pretty neat okay so what does the A stand for why are you asking me questions you know that I don't know isn't your dad an electrician have you learned nothing you're meant to be explaining things it just means that it's more powerful I was getting onto it yeah the only downside to this is and I realize Aaron that you're about to come onto this because you've done all your research is that the iPhone still charges at the same rate despite having USBC they haven't taken advantage of that extra power so as far as I'm aware it's still going to take as long to charge right so my entire segment is just destroyed Adventure I'm not responsible I think you've just ruined little my little Aaron exit right here we go okay that means the USBC charger on the phone can charge your phone quicker but apparently that's wrong now I don't I don't think we have yeah you no I feel like oh we've got okay I'm just gonna this is this is quality content it should also technically speed up data transfers but what you said is absolutely correct it should okay and it does um yeah so also most iPhones at the moment have lightning ports uh so you can't share your charges with people who have like Android phones but because it's the new like National Standard everybody has to change to USBC so that means you can plug your phone into your computer and also show your charges with more people so that's cool you won't have like 97 different charges for everything and that will help the environment this has been Aaron explains so you just say this is a thanks for that that's right this is a National Standard is it good good Aaron actually well done you did you did a grand job thanks so much yeah I'm sure you'll get loads of love in the comments for your highly technical explanation you're not wrong though that those should be the benefits of USBC apple is not taking advantage of them and the problem with the speed of data transfer is that you need to have a USB controller that supports it however the iPhone 15 is using last year's a16 bionic chip and it doesn't have that faster controller so that means you're going to get 480 megabits per second or to put it another way USB 2.0 speeds on the iPhone 15. play that thing again what thing at the trombone so it is one of those look what you could have won moments however let's now talk about the iPhone 15 Pro yes can I talk about the titanium please so I was quite excited about this because um titanium's been a a material of the mind that I'm very no it's not mine a material I've been very interesting because my dad had a titanium watch he was a jeweler and he was very excited about it probably in the 80s This was um because it's self-healing to a degree did you know that no I did not yeah so it it actually oxidizes very quickly if it gets lightly scratched so light scratches and if you combine that particularly with the brush finish of the new iPhone should make it look smarter for longer if you're not using case and they're using grade five titanium for this which is used in spacecraft so if you want to fly your iPhone Pro to the Moon you can't because you asphyxiate but the the materials in it to a degree would would be worth it um thanks for that that's right that's lighter that was almost worthy of an airing explains what I thought was interesting is they are bonding it to an aluminum chassis using something called solid state diffusion and I had a look at that and it actually is bonding materials at an atomic level so as I understand it not being a material scientist is that using some very specialized techniques and pressure you basically push the molecules of two different materials together so that they essentially the molecules intermerge as opposed to just kind of being stuck or welded together so what you then get is very high quality joints with no irregularities no porosity so it's good makes a good seal which is good there was a mention I don't know if you spotted it about better thermal performance which I know previous iPhone some have complained about when when it's warm and you're trying to charge it particularly wireless charging not mag safe but standard wireless charging can overheat very quickly will that make it better that that sounds good however does that affect user serviceability the fact that it's basically molecularly bonded together well you'll you'll have to yeah you'll have to buy the whole thing when you but you can change the glass back so that that's there's that there is good yeah that's good and you can probably change the screen I mean you'll need Apple to do it obviously not any kind of independent repair shop because it won't it won't recognize the screen as an official Apple part even if it is yeah unless Apple will do it no but there we go yeah I I think titanium it looks Jolly nice it's I have the iPhone 12 Pro Max which is a big heavy phone and it would be nice to have a lighter phone it is a little bit lighter yeah it's not I mean we're not talking dramatically it's like about 20 grams isn't it yeah and supposedly slightly smaller and they were mentioning seemed like they were talking about smaller bezels but I couldn't see it like a tiny tiny bit thinner but we are talking fractions of a millimeter I think what did you think of the colors Erin yeah I really like the dark I think it's like a bluish kind of tint to it I really like that one I think that looks very smart so they they're doing these like PVD coats on there so you can have it in natural finish or black white or blue I suspect the it's the case back that will be the main source of the color that you see yeah yeah yeah exactly um so contoured edges as well okay yeah it does look slightly different but it still looks like an iPhone yeah and I they're using the same feels like we've been on the same design for a long time now and we were talking about this before we started recording weren't we about how particularly iPhones aren't used to get excited about getting a new phone well if you go back in in the old days so like before you were born Aaron probably this is tragic in it without old but you used to get excited about getting a new phone because different handset manufacturer different design will it be a flip phone when you have a hold out keyboard or all of these different things and nowadays they're all pretty much the same with the exception of of course now the new generations of folding phones what do you think about a folding phone I love a folding phone I think are really cool and very cute so yeah I got a folding thing what's that what is that that is the Samsung Z flip or Z flip five so you can have a play with that later once you've unflipped it though it looks like an iPhone it once once it is open like that it is basically an iPhone but with a more a higher level of friction on the front and of course a crease in the middle when I don't like that I don't like it you wouldn't because you were like you're an iPhone Fanboy but you've also got this like additional screen on the front and it's interesting and it opens up interesting ideas for doing photography and video and other things with your phone and watching content stuff I haven't had much time to play with it yet but I was going to do some videos on the channel but it's gonna have to wait because I'm away for a few weeks now okay so um but at some point I will talk about the Zed flip five and and particularly how the how difficult it is to change these days from Android to Apple or Apple to Android if you're locked into an ecosystem yeah and you never had that before did you but then you never had any ecosystem I mean one of the phones I I was most excited about getting going back to those days when you had all different shapes and sizes I had an orange Sony Ericsson that kind of I can't remember it rotated in some way it was quite quite a it had likes of orange matte and silver finish it was a lovely looking phone and I think it was one of the first phones I had with the color screen I can't even remember what it was now well maybe maybe see if we can get a picture to put in the uh the b-roll maybe um and Ben's Ben's up against it because we've we've got to get this uh this edited this afternoon or not so that we can go away um let's get back to the iPhone 15 Pro Apple has reinvented buttons no they haven't well it made it sound like they had but they so we thought this was coming to all of the iPhones but actually it's just the Pro Series so your your mute switch is now just uh a soft button with haptic feedback and you can choose a number of different actions to run when you press that button by default it will still be the mute sound off yeah so you've got an action button on the Apple watch Ultra and you can program that I have mine programmed to start a workout and I do use it so I can see that being useful okay let's get to the to what is for me the main event and the thing that I've been most excited about for uh the new iPhone and that is to get a sneaky peek at the new chip these are 17 pro a17 pro and this is being built or fabricated on tsmc's three nanometer process and everybody's very excited about the Mac chips the M3 because that's going to be a jump to three nanometer and there's this general feeling that it's going to be a fairly big Leap Forward so what you need to know is that the M chips and the a-chips share core designs so the CPU cores are the design is shared between the two chips an a chip is not an M chip they have different features but they use the same building blocks if you like so we can look at the a chip to a certain extent to give us some idea of what we might get with M3 which based on the speed improvements that were quoted is a little bit disappointing or should we say underwhelming well what they're saying is that the performance course of which there are two there's two performance cores and four efficiency cores in this a17 Pro the two performance cores are ten percent faster for single core performance so what's your take on that it doesn't feel like enough now I think I know the answer to this I think because I read a white paper on tsmc's three nanometer process and I haven't been able to find it again to to quote it directly for the podcast so if anybody has site of this thing and knows where to find it please leave a comment below I will double check so I'm going to do a video on M3 you know I'll do a bit more research but as I understand it you can when you're designing your processor you can choose between three different approaches with a three nanometer process so you've got a more efficient approach so more battery life less performance and you've got a more performant approach so more performance less battery life less efficiency and something in in the middle yeah and as I understand it you can also deploy these for different segments of a system on chips you could have the CPUs using one thing and the gpus using something else if this is the case if I'm if I'm correct about this then that means that Apple can focus on say efficiency rather than performance and that's probably what you would choose to do with an iPhone which doesn't need the performance but does need the battery life yeah now what is true is that all three of these approaches approaches are both more efficient and more performant than the previous tsmc process okay so whichever they choose there will be an improvement but depending on which one they choose it may not be as dramatic as one might think yeah so my take on that is that that's the possibility so it probably is the case for the first time that we can't actually use the a chip as some kind of foreteller of what the performance leap will be for the M chips interesting and you're saying that you in layman's terms has to do with the density of the transistors I I believe so I've got to be honest this month since I I read this thing and it's only popped into my head since watching the the event last night so what we're saying is less dense is not as good as more dense and it's not always true is it Aaron why did you look at there was no need for it no need I couldn't help myself so glad you're on my way thanks um yeah so that that will be interesting to see it be interesting to see other people's views on that in the comments as well because we're obviously excited to see what the M3 brings us yeah so I I'm still quietly confident that M3 will will be more of a Leap Forward than this but again just think Apple might make choices on how the the chip is fabricated for different products uh or chip types which is a big part of the whole move to Apple silicon is to have that choice and that control yeah um let's let's move it on we got um 16 machine learning cores they're two times faster because there's more on-device machine learning going on we've got prores and av1 decoders so there's some media decoding advantages and a USB controller yes that supports the full 10 gigabits per second so if you do have yes it does however go on you have to have the right cable yes it's optional well they're not going to provide a nice Cable in the Box aren't they why not because they don't anymore it's a pro well I suspect if they give you any cable at all it'll probably just be a charging cable I mean this is something that that folks don't always realize it's a USBC cable might just be for charging so when you try and use it for data you get very low speeds so USB 2 speeds rather than full yeah so you do need to buy the right cables that's a good point Pete thank you let's get to the GPU yeah now Apple said there is this is a new Apple designed Shader architecture yes now that to me says that they're moving away from the previous architecture yes which was power VR indeed it was created by imagination Technologies here in the UK which they have to pay a license fee for I believe yes so now that's all been through the courts because way back when Apple basically did their own version of it and then the courts decided they'd have to pay a royalty originally the iPhones did have power VR chips in yes and uh Apple's um tile based deferred rendering is that's something that power VR does so that's where it's all come from but what I'm getting from this is Apple a redesigning part of it I wonder whether that's to um so they don't have to pay the royalties yeah but on the plus side Dave did you notice that this new GPU is 20 faster than the last one yes I did that's amazing um so um how many GPU cores did The Last Ship have well five and how many GPU causes of the new chip got 20 more it's got six hmm anyone spot a problem here don't try and do the maths Aaron don't try and do that I wasn't even attempting it so it would basically seem that the performance is exactly what it was before and what they've done to get the 20 performance gain is add an extra core yeah so I wonder whether apple is using the shift to tsmc's three nanometer process to mask the fact that their new architecture is perhaps slightly less performant than the old architecture at the moment anyway at the moment and I'm sure they'll optimize it as they go yeah if you were going to make that leap Now's the Time to do it where you can cover those deficiencies definitely definitely yeah that was a good spot that I thought they were talking about um Ray tracing weren't they they gave a ray tracing demo yeah so I think lots of folks have known this is coming because they tried to do it previously and didn't get it into M2 or the previous a chip in time so yeah this is all part of the new thing so now you've got Hardware accelerated Ray tracing so if you're playing games that's that's great yeah and the demo they had it side by side from a performance point of view did look good you know that was much smoother I I must have been I'm not a big gamer so um the the ray tracing effects while I get them I get what they're doing I was like yeah that's for me that's not enough justification to to get one of these I think on a you know I've recently stuck an RTX 1490 in my workstation at home and I do a bit of gaming on it and I have tried to Ray tracing it and I have to say it does add realism does a subtle level it's just more realistic interesting does it improve the game you know your actual gameplay experience I don't think it it does personally but uh it's a nice thing to have to have more realistic Graphics we're going to take that aren't we well yeah I suppose if it's something you can have I wouldn't go out looking for it I think playability is much more important than just purely how a game looks hmm I noticed they're also doing the upscaling thing that Nvidia and AMD do as well using machine learning to operate something um that's a mixed bag sometimes it works well sometimes not so much but that's available now to developers what that will mean is that there's more console type games that could come to iPhone yeah yeah they were talking about some some games running natively now on iPhone won't they yeah that possibly couldn't have couldn't have run on it before which does mean that you know it's got way more power than say a Nintendo switch so if you if you're into Mobile gaming and you want to you know if you can attach a handheld controller and you don't mind having the cut out in the middle of your gaming screen on the edge of your gaming screen then um it's a dynamic Island I I don't know how gaming aligns with the pro moniker no personally but so I mean moving into can we move into cameras let's because that's where arguably the pro moniker earns its keep more although did you spot the the picture of the studio photographer taking the picture of the guy wearing the Black Balloon yes Black Balloon trousers they were hilarious trousers yeah and who's going to do that no one is in wear black balloon trousers well No One's Gonna Aaron Aaron you would wouldn't you if they were called Roy you'd be well oh yeah then lately um do we think that any professional or fashion photographers with a full Studio setup are going to shoot on iPhone it does seem like if you've got a full Studio set up it would be a bit remiss I mean we've got a pretty good Studio here if we were then to film on an iPhone it would seem to defeat the object of everything else yeah I think you're going to use a professional camera but nonetheless it's it's that it's good it is good but again I mean we know a professional photographer and he said you can get some amazing shots on a an iPhone but you couldn't potentially go out for a commercial shoot with an iPhone no one would take you seriously no they wouldn't and that applies to video as well yeah and there used to be actually a whole range of cameras made by I think it might have been Panasonic specifically for wedding videographers who didn't need anything but this is huge shoulder mounted camera I'm going back a few years because people expected you to turn up with something like that really yeah so it just looked the part just look the part interesting yeah um so we've got um the equivalent of seven camera lenses what they kept saying basically they're doing cropping with various different things the sensor is larger it's better you can now take 48 megapixel photos in Heath format as well as Pro Raw which is right like a bit of Heath it's good and the pictures did look good I have to say that they do but what you notice about all of those pictures is that they're very well lit and photography is about capturing light so the idea that you can look at those photos and go oh my happy Snaps are going to suddenly be on the next level they're not but yeah they're shot by Pros with a pro setup and pro lighting or Pro reflectors and an understanding of how to light a shot just like do you remember that that cinematic video they showed a couple of iPhones ago yeah the space scene and it looked amazing it was all shot on iPhone but it was actually done you know with proper professional everything else that's it yeah but again looking back on my old photos compared to what what you're seeing here you are going to get better quality so that's a good thing it is good and I like the fact they're using lidar to help with night shots to get better night shots um the pro Max gets a five-time zoom and the pro gets a three time zoom and I think the three times Zoom is probably the best I want to have because of all of the in between there's a big gap then on the pro Max between the largest focal length and all the other focal lengths yeah um that's just speaking personally I'd probably rather have the pro and have the three times lens but I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people out there and it's bragging rights as well isn't it for this mine's longer yeah mine's got a better Zoom that's that's it yeah very clever how they do the they use the prism to extend the focal length on one the cameras I just thought that was such a neat thing and this is what I took away from the whole event is all these iterations are just building on lots of very clever things that we shouldn't we shouldn't take away from the engineers and the Specialists who have lived these it's really clever stuff it is um so finally then on the camera there's a macro feature that looked nice but again it's a Pro Photo so without checking it ourselves who knows and you can now record to an external USBC Drive which is great and in up to 4K 60 prores so and log uh with log color yeah so that that would be great if you're a videographer and you just want to become you don't need to take a b cam you just take your iPhone and we did that is something we we did a video a few years ago on the channel didn't we using the Cinematic features that was a terrible video including her why was it terrible yeah it just bombed because we didn't have enough time to do it justice oh well go back and look at this great it's not it's got Aaron in it unfortunately it's amazing but one of the things we said is the speed with which you're getting files off whereas in this case using an external hard drive or the optional USB 3 plus also the iCloud storage now being available up to 12 terabytes of iCloud storage if you want to sync it that way it's pretty good um there was also another camera feature yeah spatial video oh yeah it's not coming yet there was this later yeah but what a great I mean basically a tie-in to Apple Vision Pro you you rotate your camera and you can then do a stereoscopic basically 3D video and that's very easy to discount but what a great tie into the Apple Vision Pro and yeah I think that's amazing good well I I'm I'm obviously extremely excited about that what I am conscious of is that um timing wise we we're over an hour on this episode yeah and we haven't done prices yet I'm sick of the sight of you and the sound of you so um let's just quickly do do prices because last year uh we here in the UK got basically done over by Apple and we still are being done over when it comes to the Mac lineup but they've taken the opportunity to reduce prices in the UK so this year's iPhones are actually cheaper than last year's iPhones so the whole range is reduced in price interesting so let's just take uh in view of the time we'll just keep it simple now they they do still sell so you've got the SE which hasn't changed uh has dropped in price in the UK I think the cheapest one now been so 429 you can no don't worry haven't got that up on screen Okay so we've got um I think it's 429 for the cheapest one which is like 64 gigs of storage that's that's your entry point to the iPhone range there's a they're still selling the 13 and the 14. and then we get to the 15. so last year your standard 14 cost 849 pounds and now it costs the 15 now costs entry level 799 so it's a 50 pound saving there over the savings yeah that's worth having isn't it and then the the 14 plus was 949 pounds so the 15 plus now is 899. 899 so another 50 pound saving sounds pretty good so I'm just going to move your microphone down okay that's it good and um then let's move on to the pros so last year a 14 pro would have cost you 1099 pounds this year a 15 Pro will cost you 199. 100 pounds now the pro Max 14 pro Max last year cost 1199 now 15 Pro Max is going to cost you 1199 same price but there is a difference yes it starts at 256. yay here we go 2023 and we've got at least one phone in the lineup starting with 256 gigs of storage yeah I do have to wonder if the the 128 starting on the pro is just to get it under the thousand pound price point it um it possibly is although it's the same in the in the US where the price is the same isn't it as prices haven't changed in the US so but here in the UK the exchange rate has improved against the dollar since they put the prices up so it's fair that we get the the reduction and I think this is really good news because if Apple uses the new product lines as an opportunity to reduce the price then we'll see that in Max as well and iPads and everything else well you would hope so and then I can say by grab fast hammer or the savings thanks for that those who know no no uh let's just do the watch as well uh watch eight Watch series 8 would have cost you before the event 479 pounds a watch series 9 will cost what then uh starting level 399. wow 80 quid off yeah that's quite a saving and uh watch eight no it's not watch eight Ultras it's just watch Ultra that was 849 pounds and now the ultra 2 is looking up Aaron's tired and bored okay 799 7.99 so we're saving uh 50 Quid on the ultra tee so what does that tell you apart from putting the exchange rate aside um well just that there's not much different to last year yeah and I I suspect Apple have looked at that and as well as the exchange rate they've probably looked at it and gone well we can't you know justify a massive price High Court indeed a hike at all so they want to keep their sales buoyant and this is a way of doing it I think you're probably right yeah and I think it actually I mean we were all thinking the uh titanium finish would certainly add to the cost yeah and it hasn't done it's just surprising although it used surgical grade steel before didn't it which is fairly pricing anyway I believe so an an interesting event uh with some interesting sort of things that we can derive for the future of the Mac um some good news for UK buyers that the prices are finally coming down we you know we've been suffering massive inflation here so everybody's struggling with cost of living and don't forget there's that knock-on effect as well because that means that you can buy you know go and buy an iPhone 13 for example I don't know what those costs you have up on the screen at all then no six six fifty yeah I mean all of the the prices Cascade downwards so everything becomes a bit cheaper good news for everybody a little bit more performance and some iterations in the phones that's great should you rush out to upgrade to iPhone 15 if you're already on 14 no no no I'm to be honest I'm we're due for new phones and I'm Still rocking my iPhone 12 Pro Max and I'm struggling to find motivation to change it I'm exactly the same uh and to be honest with you I think that's another win for the environment because if people aren't going out and replacing things just because they have to have the newest because it's got some killer feature on it well that's that's good isn't it yeah that's a bit more moderation would be good for all of us yeah for sure good well guys I hope uh and girls sorry yeah I hope you all enjoyed the podcast episode of uh first outing in season four uh what you would have noticed of course is that this is now back on the main channel so we're not using the separate Channel anymore because YouTube now has a separate feature for podcasts the whole reason that we put it on the other channel previously is because Apple didn't Apple YouTube did I say afterwards no you said YouTube earlier but you said up all that time well what used to happen is you'd put up a podcast and of course not many people are going to watch a long podcast compared to a short Tech episode so YouTube would just kill your channel every time you you put a podcast up so hopefully that won't happen anymore it would be great to know like like you said at the beginning we're going to be doing less episodes but we'd love to know from you guys what you'd like to see from us if you'd like to see us at all I mean you might look at this and go oh no way Jose in which case just stick with him but if you would like to see more what would you like to see absolutely yeah we're open to ideas we make the show for you guys so um yeah anything you want let us know in the comment section and I think we should probably wrap it up there thank you Ben and Aaron for being here it wouldn't literally wouldn't be the same without you um and yeah thanks Pete it's always a pleasure to have a conversation with anyone apart from you thanks but unfortunately we're stuck with each other so sometimes I talk to myself because it's the only way I can be sure of intelligent conversation and on that note let's say Cheerio folks cheerio I think my bits are really really good I mean you sucked I did amazingly also Aaron explains this now I've got popular part of that podcast for who for me she'll love it yeah you didn't see anybody doing the Apple event gestures that's right podcast we should have done some of those do you think they all went on a horse riding Expedition the day before because they were all standing like they're a bit saddle still\n"