The World of Super Cars: A Commentary on Production Runs and Luxury

Ideally, when a production run is completed, cars like those from Shelby, where the 427 model became legendary for its performance and handling, are made available to the public at an affordable price. This allows enthusiasts to own and enjoy these vehicles without breaking the bank. However, it seems that manufacturers often prioritize high-end models over more accessible options, leaving buyers with a luxury item that's out of reach due to its prestige value.

The Case for V2 Cars

In recent years, there has been a trend towards creating V2 versions of classic cars, which can offer improved performance and features without losing the essence of the original design. For instance, Shelby took the 427 model and created new versions that retained the same spirit as the originals but with modern upgrades. A similar approach could be applied to other iconic models like the McLaren F1 or Carrera GTS, potentially making them more desirable and affordable for buyers.

The Art Market and Super Cars

As car prices continue to soar, many classic vehicles are being transformed into works of art rather than being driven on the road. This trend is evident in the high-end market, where owners trade these rare cars like commodities, often with little regard for their original purpose. While some collectors may appreciate this approach, it can be frustrating for enthusiasts who simply want to enjoy a car for its intended use.

Gordon Murray's T50 and the McLaren F1 Legacy

In recent years, Gordon Murray has been actively involved in reviving classic designs, taking his iconic McLaren F1 and creating a new model called the T50. This project showcases the potential for modern cars to be reimagined with cutting-edge technology while retaining their original charm. While some may appreciate this approach as a way to breathe new life into old designs, others may view it as an attempt to cash in on nostalgia rather than creating something truly innovative.

Pebble Beach and the Vibe of Luxury

For some, Pebble Beach Car Week is an exclusive experience that embodies the pinnacle of luxury. However, for others, the event can feel stuffy and above their pay grade. As a result, attendees often prioritize more laid-back experiences, such as taking time to relax and enjoy good company rather than indulging in high-end cars.

The Future of Luxury Cars

As car prices continue to rise, it's becoming increasingly difficult for buyers to afford even the most exclusive models. While some manufacturers may choose to create limited-edition versions or focus on niche markets, others are exploring new strategies to make their cars more accessible. One possible solution could be creating V2 models that blend modern technology with classic design elements, potentially making these vehicles more desirable and affordable for a wider range of buyers.

The Value of Art over Cars

In recent years, collectors have begun to view rare super cars as works of art rather than functional vehicles. This shift in perspective has led to prices skyrocketing, with some models estimated to fetch millions of dollars. While this trend may be driven by speculation and the desire for prestige ownership, it can also lead to a lack of appreciation for these cars as intended experiences.

The Limitations of Luxury

Regardless of the price tag, there are only so many things that can be done to make a car truly special. For instance, adding advanced features like performance brakes or improved aerodynamics may enhance an existing model's appeal, but they won't change its fundamental character. In some cases, manufacturers may even need to look back in time to recapture the essence of an original design, as seen with the DeLorean.

A Final Thought

Ultimately, the world of luxury cars is a complex and multifaceted landscape. While manufacturers like Shelby continue to innovate and push the boundaries of performance and handling, collectors are increasingly valuing these cars as works of art rather than functional vehicles. As prices continue to rise, it's essential to consider the role that these super cars play in our lives – both on and off the road.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enthank you hey guys Rob Ferretti here in Pebble Beach Concourse just wrapped up this weekend and Monterey car week is famous for showcasing like exorbitant wealth right you always have the big cars saved for the Monterey auction every year and this year was no different and then you get these outlier cars that just tend to prove me right and disappoint me at the same time now you'll see there was a carcass of a car that everybody was like oh look at this carcass of a car and I'm like I wonder what that's going to sell for because I made a video about me buying a carcass of a car and when I say a carcass of a car something that just like rolled off the side of the cliff caught on fire and all I'm really buying is the VIN number and then when the VIN number is ultimately worth something when the car becomes worth 20 million dollars I'll spend five million dollars going to Ferrari to build it well I think I'm going to be beaten to that game by everybody who's got more money than me as has been proven by this carcass this carcass is a 1954 Ferrari 500 Mondial spider and this particular car has a history of an engine swap crashing burning everything bad that could possibly happen to a car and this is the essentially salvaged charred remains of what's left now that in my head when one just sold for auction in 2021 for Two Plus million dollars or like 2.1 million dollars one to sold for 3.3 million euros a year or two before that it's only 13 or 14 of them I would have been like I'll give you 250 Grand it sold for 1.9 million dollars now in the any world it's going to cost this guy a million to two million dollars just to make it right right to get all the factory parts and authenticated and it's gonna have a story on it and everything like that it doesn't really make a difference at that point in time because people aren't really driving it but the entire carcass of what you're buying is worth nothing you're effectively buying the rights to rebuild that chassis number and have this exclusive car which has been rebuilt now that would make it worth four million dollars a why or three it would like your four million into it why would you spend four million dollars to buy a car that somebody just bought for two million dollars or three million dollars well it's all speculation and they're going out there thinking that these cars are going to be worth 10 million dollars one day so you're paying 4 million for a three million dollar car right now which is not where I ever thought it would be right like I was the guy waiting for like a Carrera GT to catch fire and burn to the ground and I'll buy the 600 000 car for 50 Grand and that was my flyer and I think that game apparently is over I maybe it's just a market but cars are no longer cars right you look at car week and the Ferrari 412 sold for 30 million dollars right like 30 million that's a street throwing card very cool sexy as anything is it worth 30 million dollars is any car worth 30 million dollars the Rolls-Royce just uh introduced the drop tail which they're going to be selling a couple units of 430 million dollars what can you possibly do to make a car 30 million dollars now you think back to what made cars special like what made a car have a value and the answer is exclusivity and cars are now becoming something where you can identify somebody's wealth by these cars like McLaren f1s right like a McLaren F1 always sold for more than other cars because it performed better it was limited numbers it was designed in a manner with these exotic materials that were more expensive it Justified the price right a limited run even with Ferrari right say Ferrari produced 3 000 uh whatever 355s and on that production number is wrong but just say they produce 3 000 of them but at 50s they're gonna make 250 of them 500 of them whatever the the production run was on the f50s you're doing all this this r d to create this Supercar that's going to perform better have a more limited number and that's going to ramp up the price on that car you have to charge more because the r d has to get amortized instead of over 3 000 units or 5 000 units that you're amortizing it over a couple hundred units so now you have all this r d you have all these exotic materials where the 355 is using a steel chassis versus a carbon fiber monocoque chassis in the other cars it could justify the price so you're paying for the performance you're paying for the limited production because you have to amortize the entire overhead of of Designing and building this chassis from scratch you have to advertise it over fewer units and it the prices made sense McLaren f1s were outperforming everything for 15 years and that's a car that was designed tonight or released in 1995 that's Now outperforming cars made in 2005 in 2010 and to have that level of performance that's objectively there's not many of them and that's why it's worth something some of these other cars they're rare or they've got a racing pedigree it's the same way a movie car like the the Paul Walker Supra is going to be worth money it's the same reason a movie Aston Martin That's authentic is going to be worth money but certain cars at a certain point in time they shouldn't really be worth more than what it would cost to recreate it right and I think and I I hope this is the future right because there's chassis that that are terrific the four GTS they didn't finish a production run there's cars that are just going to price everybody out because they're great drivers cars but nobody's ever going to drive them because they're worth so much so ideally we'll have a V2 of a car like Shelby did a great job right they took the 427 and now they're making new 427s which are super fun to drive same thing same experience same vibration same everything and it's just not worth what the original one was because you don't need it but it's got power brakes it's got all these things that you want in a modern car if you could make a new run of Shelby series ones with a better engine and everything like that it doesn't even have to be the Shelby series one it could be the Shelby series two and people would still buy it because it's a cool looking car and it's got the performance if you could start remaking the McLaren F ones right and with modern technology and and that's effectively what Gordon Murray did with the t50 which is cool sounds great not a big fan and the the fan on the back but I understand the purpose of it but I just looks wise it bothers me like The Pagani Huayra with the flaps on it I don't need it like I'm a guy that just wants a cool looking car that sounds great that's fun to drive and hopefully in the future if we can't keep producing new cool cars we'll be able to make old chassis new again with a V2 like as is a 2023 McLaren F1 gonna be the same worth the same as that as the 25 million dollars they're selling for right now as a 95 no never but the V2 may be more desirable you may be able to get into it for two and a half or three million dollars and then drive that car and the same thing goes for Carrera GTS and and f50s and f40s and you're not getting the original one the original ones can all become artwork for the end of time and rich people can trade them and put them on their Yachts during F1 and do whatever they want with them but at the end of the day these cars are designed to be cars and they're not Cars anymore they're becoming artwork I saw an opportunity to make money somebody beat me to it and crushed my dreams of buying a chart out Supercar and ultimately sitting on that 50 or 100 000 for 10 or 15 years and making a bunch of money off of it and bummed me out a little bit so there's car week lots of money flying around if you could imagine spending two million dollars on on that charred carcass of a car which buys you I mean effectively any like you can get a Ferrari Monza probably for about that that's a million and a half two million dollar car which you get but instead you bought this thing that's about to become a project and maybe that guy will sit on it maybe that guy will wait till it's worth 10 million dollars and then sell that for five without doing anything it's all speculation it's all like trading art now instead of cars and that hurts my heart a little bit but uh I get that we say I was right right like I at least get to say like oh look you can sell absolute garbage and turn it into something in the future especially as the car market is going to the moon and the prices of these cars are getting out of control there is nothing you can do to a car I think there's a Ferrari that's going to be estimated to sell at 60 million dollars later this year 60 million dollars per car you there's nothing you can do using the idea that it's going to be limited and outperform everything else Etc et cetera to add the value to the car it would literally have to go back in time like the DeLorean right that's the only thing that can make a car worth 60 million dollars to me also I don't have 60 million dollars the amount of money you would have to have if you go spend 60 million dollars in a car just to tell other people you have it I don't know funny World Rob pretty thank you for watching I hope you enjoyed uh my brief highlights of Pebble Beach I don't go to Pebble Beach I've been there a couple of times when I do go it's because somebody asked me to come out but even when I go out there it's the vibe is a little bit above my pay grades that makes sense like it's just a little too stuffy for me so I end up leaving going to nap and drinking wine hanging out with my friends so now I just stopped going to Pebble unless there's a reason to go out there Rob frody thank you for watching see you next time ohthank you hey guys Rob Ferretti here in Pebble Beach Concourse just wrapped up this weekend and Monterey car week is famous for showcasing like exorbitant wealth right you always have the big cars saved for the Monterey auction every year and this year was no different and then you get these outlier cars that just tend to prove me right and disappoint me at the same time now you'll see there was a carcass of a car that everybody was like oh look at this carcass of a car and I'm like I wonder what that's going to sell for because I made a video about me buying a carcass of a car and when I say a carcass of a car something that just like rolled off the side of the cliff caught on fire and all I'm really buying is the VIN number and then when the VIN number is ultimately worth something when the car becomes worth 20 million dollars I'll spend five million dollars going to Ferrari to build it well I think I'm going to be beaten to that game by everybody who's got more money than me as has been proven by this carcass this carcass is a 1954 Ferrari 500 Mondial spider and this particular car has a history of an engine swap crashing burning everything bad that could possibly happen to a car and this is the essentially salvaged charred remains of what's left now that in my head when one just sold for auction in 2021 for Two Plus million dollars or like 2.1 million dollars one to sold for 3.3 million euros a year or two before that it's only 13 or 14 of them I would have been like I'll give you 250 Grand it sold for 1.9 million dollars now in the any world it's going to cost this guy a million to two million dollars just to make it right right to get all the factory parts and authenticated and it's gonna have a story on it and everything like that it doesn't really make a difference at that point in time because people aren't really driving it but the entire carcass of what you're buying is worth nothing you're effectively buying the rights to rebuild that chassis number and have this exclusive car which has been rebuilt now that would make it worth four million dollars a why or three it would like your four million into it why would you spend four million dollars to buy a car that somebody just bought for two million dollars or three million dollars well it's all speculation and they're going out there thinking that these cars are going to be worth 10 million dollars one day so you're paying 4 million for a three million dollar car right now which is not where I ever thought it would be right like I was the guy waiting for like a Carrera GT to catch fire and burn to the ground and I'll buy the 600 000 car for 50 Grand and that was my flyer and I think that game apparently is over I maybe it's just a market but cars are no longer cars right you look at car week and the Ferrari 412 sold for 30 million dollars right like 30 million that's a street throwing card very cool sexy as anything is it worth 30 million dollars is any car worth 30 million dollars the Rolls-Royce just uh introduced the drop tail which they're going to be selling a couple units of 430 million dollars what can you possibly do to make a car 30 million dollars now you think back to what made cars special like what made a car have a value and the answer is exclusivity and cars are now becoming something where you can identify somebody's wealth by these cars like McLaren f1s right like a McLaren F1 always sold for more than other cars because it performed better it was limited numbers it was designed in a manner with these exotic materials that were more expensive it Justified the price right a limited run even with Ferrari right say Ferrari produced 3 000 uh whatever 355s and on that production number is wrong but just say they produce 3 000 of them but at 50s they're gonna make 250 of them 500 of them whatever the the production run was on the f50s you're doing all this this r d to create this Supercar that's going to perform better have a more limited number and that's going to ramp up the price on that car you have to charge more because the r d has to get amortized instead of over 3 000 units or 5 000 units that you're amortizing it over a couple hundred units so now you have all this r d you have all these exotic materials where the 355 is using a steel chassis versus a carbon fiber monocoque chassis in the other cars it could justify the price so you're paying for the performance you're paying for the limited production because you have to amortize the entire overhead of of Designing and building this chassis from scratch you have to advertise it over fewer units and it the prices made sense McLaren f1s were outperforming everything for 15 years and that's a car that was designed tonight or released in 1995 that's Now outperforming cars made in 2005 in 2010 and to have that level of performance that's objectively there's not many of them and that's why it's worth something some of these other cars they're rare or they've got a racing pedigree it's the same way a movie car like the the Paul Walker Supra is going to be worth money it's the same reason a movie Aston Martin That's authentic is going to be worth money but certain cars at a certain point in time they shouldn't really be worth more than what it would cost to recreate it right and I think and I I hope this is the future right because there's chassis that that are terrific the four GTS they didn't finish a production run there's cars that are just going to price everybody out because they're great drivers cars but nobody's ever going to drive them because they're worth so much so ideally we'll have a V2 of a car like Shelby did a great job right they took the 427 and now they're making new 427s which are super fun to drive same thing same experience same vibration same everything and it's just not worth what the original one was because you don't need it but it's got power brakes it's got all these things that you want in a modern car if you could make a new run of Shelby series ones with a better engine and everything like that it doesn't even have to be the Shelby series one it could be the Shelby series two and people would still buy it because it's a cool looking car and it's got the performance if you could start remaking the McLaren F ones right and with modern technology and and that's effectively what Gordon Murray did with the t50 which is cool sounds great not a big fan and the the fan on the back but I understand the purpose of it but I just looks wise it bothers me like The Pagani Huayra with the flaps on it I don't need it like I'm a guy that just wants a cool looking car that sounds great that's fun to drive and hopefully in the future if we can't keep producing new cool cars we'll be able to make old chassis new again with a V2 like as is a 2023 McLaren F1 gonna be the same worth the same as that as the 25 million dollars they're selling for right now as a 95 no never but the V2 may be more desirable you may be able to get into it for two and a half or three million dollars and then drive that car and the same thing goes for Carrera GTS and and f50s and f40s and you're not getting the original one the original ones can all become artwork for the end of time and rich people can trade them and put them on their Yachts during F1 and do whatever they want with them but at the end of the day these cars are designed to be cars and they're not Cars anymore they're becoming artwork I saw an opportunity to make money somebody beat me to it and crushed my dreams of buying a chart out Supercar and ultimately sitting on that 50 or 100 000 for 10 or 15 years and making a bunch of money off of it and bummed me out a little bit so there's car week lots of money flying around if you could imagine spending two million dollars on on that charred carcass of a car which buys you I mean effectively any like you can get a Ferrari Monza probably for about that that's a million and a half two million dollar car which you get but instead you bought this thing that's about to become a project and maybe that guy will sit on it maybe that guy will wait till it's worth 10 million dollars and then sell that for five without doing anything it's all speculation it's all like trading art now instead of cars and that hurts my heart a little bit but uh I get that we say I was right right like I at least get to say like oh look you can sell absolute garbage and turn it into something in the future especially as the car market is going to the moon and the prices of these cars are getting out of control there is nothing you can do to a car I think there's a Ferrari that's going to be estimated to sell at 60 million dollars later this year 60 million dollars per car you there's nothing you can do using the idea that it's going to be limited and outperform everything else Etc et cetera to add the value to the car it would literally have to go back in time like the DeLorean right that's the only thing that can make a car worth 60 million dollars to me also I don't have 60 million dollars the amount of money you would have to have if you go spend 60 million dollars in a car just to tell other people you have it I don't know funny World Rob pretty thank you for watching I hope you enjoyed uh my brief highlights of Pebble Beach I don't go to Pebble Beach I've been there a couple of times when I do go it's because somebody asked me to come out but even when I go out there it's the vibe is a little bit above my pay grades that makes sense like it's just a little too stuffy for me so I end up leaving going to nap and drinking wine hanging out with my friends so now I just stopped going to Pebble unless there's a reason to go out there Rob frody thank you for watching see you next time oh\n"