The Marvel Cinematic Universe's (MCU) Latest Venture: A New Television Universe

As we await the release of the upcoming Disney+ show, the latest trailer has left fans eager to learn more about its narrative and how it will execute its unique blend of genres. The show's creators have promised a tonal shift that will take viewers on a journey through different television universes, showcasing their ability to traverse various styles and eras.

The tone and look of the show are reminiscent of classic sitcoms from the 1960s, such as Bewitched, with its use of surreal and quirky elements. This approach is similar to another MCU show, Legion, which also explored themes of sci-fi and fantasy. While some fans may be skeptical about the direction of this new show, it's clear that there is a palpable appetite for something different from the usual superhero fare.

Unlike other Marvel shows, such as Agents of Shield or Spider-Man: Far From Home, which focus primarily on action sequences and battles with villains, this new show promises to explore more complex themes and characters. It's not just about beating up bad guys; it's about storytelling that resonates with audiences. With the rise of streaming services and the increasing demand for diverse content, it's refreshing to see a show that deviates from the traditional superhero formula.

The anticipation surrounding this new MCU show is palpable, with fans eagerly awaiting more information about its plot and characters. The fact that it's not immediately clear how it fits into the larger Marvel universe only adds to the excitement. Is it connected to other shows or characters? How will it intersect with future movies? These questions are left unanswered, leaving fans to fill in the gaps with their own theories.

On a related note, CBS All Access has undergone a rebranding to Paramount+, with the change taking effect on March 4th. This shift marks a significant move towards expanding the company's content offerings and adapting to the changing media landscape.

In other news, Star Trek fans can look forward to new shows on both Paramount+ and CBS Streaming Service, including Lower Decks and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Meanwhile, console gamers will be able to watch The Last Jedi: A Behind-the-Scenes Documentary on CBS All Access. This documentary promises to delve into the making of the film, providing fans with a deeper understanding of the creative process behind one of the most beloved films in the Star Wars franchise.

In the world of toys and collectibles, fans have been eagerly awaiting new releases from Lego. One of the most highly anticipated sets is the Lego Batwing (UCS), which is based on Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film. The set features a stunning Batwing vehicle that can be mounted and displayed. Additionally, the set includes several minifigures, including the Joker, Batman, and henchmen. Another exciting release is the Lego Baby Yoda, which has been made available for pre-order and is expected to ship next month.

In a surprising move, Netflix has canceled its series Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance, just months after its initial release. The show was intended to be a five-season story arc but was ultimately cut short due to low viewership and merchandise sales not meeting expectations. However, the Henson family has assured fans that they will continue to explore this franchise in new ways.

Finally, Jeremy's Disappointment shares his thoughts on how the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) approaches its iconic franchises like Star Wars. He reflects on the impact of streaming services and social media on our perception of these beloved franchises. With the MCU set to release several shows in the coming months, including The Mandalorian Season 3 and Obi-Wan Kenobi, fans will be eagerly awaiting more information about these upcoming projects.

Lastly, Ryan Johnson has revealed that Star Wars: Episode IX - The Last Jedi's title is now officially known as "The Rise of Skywalker." With the announcement comes a sense of excitement and trepidation among fans, who are eager to see how the film will continue the story of the beloved trilogy.

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made with us in mind it could have just been something  they had already pre-made and then submitted but we'll take it well you're making accusations now  well in the past they've other composers have incorporated this is only a test some type of  techno some type of theme this one while cynthia uh didn't i don't know didn't feel like it was  catered specifically to us but who knows norm likes his name written on his birthday cake  misspelt is okay as long as there's some acknowledgement on the receipt that was made  for me and not a generic cake that's what i want that's what i want thank you jeremy williams and  kashor hari welcome you guys we have a a full crew this week how you guys doing i'm will how are you  i'm head geared yeah i have so much headgear going on multi layers of reality  affixed on my head but we'll talk about that we'll talk sure we missed you last week  um did you miss our conversation our our breakdown of the facebook connect announcements i  revelations listen to part of it though i have to admit i think the thing i actually tuned  into the most was your quest to review um and my ipd is not it does not fall  into um the areas that that's most suited around i'm like about like one or two kind of points away  so i'm very i've been skeptical about getting the quest to because i wonder how it's gonna  how it's gonna look and feel what is your ipd uh i think it's like 67 and a half i want to say maybe  like i remember looking in it being like two away from the one the numbers that norm mentioned in  the video 68 is the high end so if as long as you're like if you're 67 that's probably better  than being at 69 or 70. and i don't think you have a 70 ipd although i think you're absolutely  right many of the comments and a lot of the people who've been responding and posting on the social  media threads you know are outside of that this is a smaller range than was previously available on  other headsets or even oculus headsets when they had independent screens moving left and right and  things that were revealed and you know i can confirm like when you move it to 68 you do get  a little bit smaller field of view as well so it's gonna be tough it's been one of those things where  i could see some people returning theirs if it's not comfortable because you know the way  they designed it doesn't accommodate everyone perfectly you know one quick question i had  do you you have prescription lenses in your quest i do are you do you have any concerns  about how that's going to work inside of quest 2 in the context of not having full pd control  no absolutely not because the lenses themselves do still shift and so for me it's close enough the  sweet spot to my eyes the prescription lenses are always recommended super super highly recommended  um so much more comfortable for that design than trying to squeeze at least like my style  of glasses inside a headset even with the spacer the thing i'm looking forward to though is the  the new facial interface there's one from vr cover that's supposed to have some you know some uh some  air some vents for air and also a better nose cover or optional nose cover so you can create  a better seal but also oculus has their uh the wide interface and narrow the fit kit and i sorry  pre-order that also because i would still like a better fit around my specific face shape yeah  but i want to start off this week with uh a documentary because it's something that  we all watch i painted you guys about it last night and uh i think it's worth talking about  it's kind of related to the stuff that we talked about last week and of course with  oculus and facebook but there's a new documentary on netflix right now called the social dilemma and  uh it's about the effects of social media and kind of a lot of the things that we as people  who follow technology are at least aware of in terms of how social media monetizes  and how they track users and the the uh the data profiles they are gathering um  about users uh for advertisers uh but it was a very interesting documentary in that they had  interviews with a lot of executives a lot of engineers at companies formerly google  twitter facebook uh instagram but also they did a dramatization it was intercut these interviews  with this portrayal of a typical american family with parents and kids and kids of all different  ages in school who are who use social media uh what did you guys think about it i thought that  the documentary well not the documentary the dramatization part that it was interspersed was  a really risky thing to do because they had a lot of risk to go cheesy and to be you know something  that you know people couldn't relate to especially if they were to take the angle of saying that  you know facebook only tries to convert people who are you know you know ignorant or like on the far  right or left and so they did this interesting thing where they they said in the dramatization  what one of the family members gets coerced by is far center right so it kind of applied  to everybody and i thought that that was that stream center exactly i thought that  that was a nice compromise or a way not to like shut people off immediately um but  overall i thought the documentary is required viewing like absolutely whether take this like  dramatization that they interplace or leave it what the message of this documentary has to say is  i think absolutely below the radar for the vast majority of people despite the fact that there  was a lot of press about how facebook and and um cambridge analytica were able to influence  the election four years ago and elsewhere in the world um like it is it is now just  a part of the fabric of social media now that it can influence people and one of my favorite  points about the documentary makes is that we've heard this phrase constantly about how if you  aren't buying something you are the product right we've heard this countless times but this document  i think one of the most brilliant things it does is it it says that but then one of the people they  interview takes it a step further and says that that's too simple that that simplifies it too much  what it is is it's you are not necessarily the product but changing your mindset is the product  it's just slightly influencing the way that you think and who you are is the product so it's it's  actually not you know always within you within your power to you know retain your your your you  know morals your whatever who you think you are when you're being advertised to like that's the  point of advertising is to affect you and that's that that is a hard thing to swallow right that  was jaren lanier the father the quote unquote father of virtual reality uh and yeah he makes  that fantastic point that takes the kind of what we have been on in the technology news an extra  step right like we i think we understand that we are being advertised to and advertising and the  economics of these business models drive these free services uh but it's the the the way you  phrase it specifically the kind of subconscious and slow and and uh this imperceptible change in  behavior that is something that it's this kind of this coercion that we are completely vulnerable to  and the documentary doesn't pass judgment right it doesn't pass judgment on the user it's not  saying that because we're dumb it's because we're human it's because our brains cannot cope  with the magnitude of the the algorithms and the computation and on the other side of the screens  that we can't fathom you know the 100 000 years of evolution can't match what moore's law has done  for computing yeah they have a great illustration of moore's law too where they show the graph going  up and then what is the highest that you could possibly imagine becomes almost negligible and  again and again and again they really have a great illustration of what how technology  has evolved whereas the human brain has not so i like this as well though and i agree with uh  jeremy's assertion that for the vast majority of people i think there's been surprising information  but i didn't leave like being like oh my goodness i had no idea it was not like that experience for  me like i think we've been living in a world that has been talking about the impact of  of social networks on us for a number of years so i wasn't surprised about this and  in fact just like a week or two ago i actually instituted some like control measures of how often  i use social media on my phone and on my browser because i was noticing an uptick in like  kind of like mean-spirited interactions um on various platforms and how that was really  um leading to some just like unhealthy dispositions in myself at home  um so maybe i was already just in that mind state of being like i need to think of this more as a  tool i think the place that falls down like the dramatization didn't kind of work for me but  whatever you know that's just that's like i think there was a impression that all of this is so new  and different um and while the scale of this the accessibility of this the fact that everyone has  a phone that everyone is bombarded with with these things might be different i didn't think  there was enough acknowledgement of how this sort of manipulation has been going on for a long time  like seeing the like when i was a kid it was uh at the grocery checkout stands looking at like the  the national enquirer and and all those tabloids and how they would kind of seed certain things um  there's always been like people that try to sort of get this rise like we call them trolls now  but they existed in the past and i i think there needs to be some acknowledgement that there isn't  necessarily some new interfaces being created but just sort of an expansion upon um already existing  um items that have been played there was stuff that oh wait go ahead there was that one moment  in the panel discussion where the the older guy you know basically makes that argument which is  like this is nothing new and we will persevere we will we will figure our way through this but the  the you know the younger gentleman who worked you know i think it was at google um he uh you know he  said you know this is actually something new the thing that's new here is the ais that are behind  it that are providing everybody with their own tailored experience like yeah magazines yeah yeah  i i fully acknowledge that the stuff that always gets me with with these conversations is all the  radicalization stuff uh and that's something that we're uh in the throes of did i like i i meannot to sound like every internet bro out there but did you listen to the reply all last week  um where they were talking about a chan and um you know um and 4chan and and like the uh just the  connection to q and all these things like it is um there is like a whole portion of this ecosystem  ai influenced or not that is just wildly invisible to my experience right um and that radicalization  which isn't just you know plat you know every platform it looks different that stuff scares  the crap out of me um in a really tangible way um because uh we have like real legitimate moments  uh in our culture and in in recent times where that's led to some dramatic consequences  yeah and in some ways this reminds me a lot of watching an inconvenient truth um you know  decades ago in terms of like it being this warning sign and the big difference is of course if you  mean truth al gore ended that with some optimism and unfortunately you know we have not moved down  that path um and this is where i think documentary kind of abruptly ended and yes they acknowledge  you know social media isn't inherently bad and and there are some benefits to the connection that we  have and the miracles of the magic of technology today and what and how our lives have improved  with all this um but the prescriptions that they provide were kind of the common sense prescription  like things you talk about sure of just sending personal boundaries and guidelines and this did  feel like a documentary made for for parents um like i'm sure a teenager watching this a college  student watching this is probably gonna roll their eyes or not feel like it's impactful for them but  i think watching it as a parent as someone who is thinking down the line of what this means for you  know for a kid and giving them access to social media like this felt a little more resonant to me  yeah i wonder for what age though because some of the content is pretty complicated and requires  you know a bit of a wide world view in order to appreciate it and also maybe some perspective  on how it used to be before social media so i don't know what age group would really be able to  digest it like i don't think my 10 year old would get it like i just think that oh yeah i don't  think it's for them to watch i think it's for parents of those age groups to watch especially  the ones who in our generation are you know some of the last folks who knew what it was  like before this curve yeah yeah and that's certainly the sort of the thrust of the of  the narrative of the dramatization as you know the the parents at one point they they decide to  lock the the phones away during dinner that causes an argument leads to a broken phone and  one of the kids then has the challenge to leave the phone alone for a week and of course can't  do it why would you leave that phone plugged in and not powered off during that challenge  yeah like there's just some bad scripting in store writing those parents were bad parents like they  didn't they weren't connecting with their kids in a way to help them like they weren't having  good conversations with their kids they weren't engaging them taking them on like you know the thethe opposite of the social media addiction is like real human connection and the parents are in the  best possible place to create to connect with those kids but like even at that dinner table  in that one scene they had they were failing at that yeah it definitely was like a riff  riff traxable dramatization you could totally see that but uh yeah i i do think i agree with you  it is definitely something for parents to be aware of especially like you know i i still like to  think of myself as being tech savvy but i did not grow up with this and so and my kids are and so i  i certainly don't know what it's like to have to be a pre-teen and have so much writing on  my social media likes and dislikes or the comments that i might get on instagram  my kids thankfully are still not on instagram or on social media um but it's around the corner it's  a matter of you know a couple years at you know at the outset i mean at the max yeah it's called the  social dilemma it's on netflix and i guess netflix can get away with you know running this and making  this and producing this because they don't sell ads they they and apple are in a different  business model of just taking your money directly uh it's not that they don't buy ads on those very  maybe same networks but uh they they definitely there's there's no mirror held to them um amazon i  don't think could get away with with running this documentary yeah i thought it was interesting that  apple was not a focus of this at all i don't even know if they were mentioned except for in the end  steve there's a clip of steve jobs talking about you know how he thinks of the computer as the the  mental bicycle um but you're right i mean that's where and that's been a part of their narrative  for years now is that they are not in the business of selling ads and the business selling you stuff  hey i guess if if all the predictions that they say hold true and it is scary right the  one guy at the end is like you know what do you think is the short-term you know consequence of  this and he's like civil war and we're all like well you know looking at what's going on in the  world right now that's that feels like it could be around the corner um you know the breakdown  of society's democracies but you know along with those comes a breakdown of the economics models  right and then they are less incentivized to to run businesses like this i do think that  was one of the biggest points of the of the film which is that if you if you look at the you know  political division right now which is like you know just off the chart and you you have to think  to yourself how can these people on the other side think that way if they if they're seeing  the same news that i am and they're not seeing the same news that you are like that's the point  and and it's being driven you know not only by social media also by you know um cable  news networks um but that that's where that's follow the money like it's because that's how  you get people to spend more time on your platform is by feeding them information that  that algorithmically has been found to you know drive clicks and and times and time spent so yeah  what what is the solution what are we going to do are we going to take our phones away for a week um  i mean what i there was no clear solution given in this documentary that's one of the  starkest things about it all right um jeremy uh i'll be by later we'll put your phone in a bag  and i'll be back a week later hey if that solves the problem i'm in the cookie jar the cookie jar  i mean it especially is relevant today where we cannot leave our homes where we most people you  know are discouraged from losing homes because of the worldwide pandemic like in the past  getting fresh air going outdoors playing sports you know taking a walk these were the things that  i would do to get away from social media but it is way too easy and you know we acknowledge  that you know being being online in this way is too easy and the kind of some of the ways  that we find uh relief from uh what's happening in the world right now and some for some people  who live by themselves or you know don't have families they're not going to find those outlets  and so we i think we definitely see it from a different perspective being older being more  mature having the same different kinds of you know uh needs and uh and having gone through all the  the emotional rollercoasters of being a young person i definitely felt old watching  watching this and hey shout out to pete campbell from mad men for getting triple roles in this  i don't know if you guys watch mad men but pete campbell from mad men plays the the ai ad robots  uh in this and uh good for him all right let's move on to our actual top tech story this weektop story this week you know as i was watching that documentary one  of the things i was thinking about we didn't grow up with the kind of social  media that the kids grew up today but one of the types of social media that  we did i did grow up with was video games you know video games online gaming was a way we  connected with people uh and for many people that is still you know their friends groups outside of  the facebooks and instagrams of the world uh and we got new consoles coming out this this holiday  season uh any of either of you get in on the ps5 or the xbox series x pre-sales i can't buy   no ps5 no xbox no rtx uh 3080 i've just resigned that like any time a company announces a device i  might be able to get it in 12 months um sorry i'm going to go on like a massive rant i just think  the the bot scalping there isn't being enough done and there's no incentive for the companies  to actually change it um and i think what's happening on ebay is just like a travesty  onto uh the experience for so many yeah no i didn't get one either i did and i was kind of  thinking i i might pick up a 30 80 this year and and at playstation 5. but i wasn't like i didn't  i wasn't tracking the launch uh and i didn't know anything about them and by the time that i  found out about them like it was you know an hour had passed and i felt like the sloth in zootopia  you know oh there that went the sloth in zootopia also drove a really fast car yeah so that's your  38 80 right there right you're the sloth with all the flops yeah well whatever i mean i  i suppose i could have picked up an xbox because i happened to be there when that launch but i  i don't want that um no so it's i picked up a quest too and honestly of like all the stuff  that's the thing i want the most i realize i'm in the minority but hey that that's good for me yeah  you also have an hp reverb pre-ordered so you know i'm looking for that as well yeah g2 uh it's one  of those situations where i i really wish there was in the way twitch does it and the way youtube  live chat does it a way to archive the the flow of conversation of tweets and posts on social media  when these things happen because while i did not partake necessarily in the pre-orders for for the  expo series x and i tried for the ps5 uh following the people that i followed watching those  those tweets pop up in real time with the frustrations that is a that's an  ephemeral time capsule of you know what it's like consumer culture gaming culture internet culture  in this month 2020 that i wish we could look back on because i i mean it makes it made me  think back to the launches of previous consoles and the pre-order systems obviously back then  it was different we did wait in line outside of targets and toys r us is for the psps and the the  nintendo wiis but you know things are shifting and of course it's different this year but yeah  what a what a cluster f what a you know this is your worst journalist take ever norm like you're  like i wish we could encapsulate all the hate and rage it's historical for this it's like i'm it's  it's it's a the anthropology look anthropological look at interrupt culture because i'm not gonna  i'm not gonna wade in there because of the mess it was and looking at uh microsoft sniping at sony  for how botched their pre-sale launch was and then failing to meet demand and having their site crash  for the launch oh my god what hubris uh well that hubris also allows them to spend to the  tune eight billion dollars to buy bethesda oh it's only seven and a half billion seven point  eight seven point eight billion closer to the eight but nearly eight instagrams were spent  to buy bethesda and the ip they owned which also includes you know id software doom quake  uh and now under the microsoft umbrella the purchases of zenimax which is bethesda and  everything right yeah yep so pray not just doom and quake like you got skyrim in there fallout  fallout yeah these are massive franchises prey dishonored they are massive franchises and even  if you look at them individually you can say you know there's obviously a strong audience and  legacy for doom and and fallout of course despite some you know the missteps of the last launch at  76. uh but it's to bolster the series x launch and the bolster their subscription plan and they  really want to bundle this in to their game pass which is really strong with that deal with ea and  i'm not surprised that cinemax wanted to sell because you know  the triple a games business is risky it's like the movie business where they can spend hundreds  of millions of dollars on a game like fallout 76 and then the critical reception not being where  they want to be it's it's pretty cutthroat i love seeing mike micah's tweet after this news hit um  which was uh hey hey microsoft after the honeymoon we want to talk to you about commander keane  it's like the perfect digital eclipse title you know remake uh that this is it's game that they  made that was like their huge smash hit before wolfenstein right so it's kind of a small scale  hit that i'm so disappointed that you know go back to that netflix documentary that uh we  talked about uh where they did the the history of games of of console games you know from atari to  essentially the early pc games erin they did a whole interview with john romero  and he wonderfully told this tale about the early days of id pre-wolfenstein and what it was for  john carmack overnight to try to replicate the smoothness of side scrolling on a pc uh which  mario had but they did not have on pc games at the time and yet he never once they acknowledged the  game was commander keane right that was at one point said commander kevin's like say the name  what a milestone for pc gaming i had to make mario but nintendo passed on it yeah can we talk about  what this does for game pass like isn't game pass all of a sudden which was always kind of a good  value in comparison to the other um offerings was always a better product but like the limitation  has always been about the the launch titles like the exclusives uh comparatively to like ps5  but now game pass comes with what i'm assuming is going to come with all of this stuff um that  you know is under this umbrella um which all of a sudden makes like xbox much more attractive like  i was completely out on the xbox because i want to play i want to be miles morales i want to play  like the exclusive like i want to be in that playstation ecosystem because of the games but  this is the first time i've had pause about uh getting back into the xbox ecosystem  um probably going back to like 360. uh my i don't follow the xbox at all um haven't since i had a  360 i have didn't have the last generous current generation uh but i have friends to do and and a  friend of mine who's you know in the industry pretty pretty you know and loves the xbox  he was saying before this that the game pass was an insane deal like too good of a deal in  terms of like being good for developers like it it may not be good for developers kind of  level deal because there's so much content you're paying so little it's almost like you could equate  it to apple arcade where you're paying you know five dollars a month for a hundred games how could  those developers possibly be making a good return on it unless it's simply just funded by apple  um so this is kind of the same thing where it's like yeah but at what point does it at what  point does it stop making sense for microsoft in order to fund this level of commitment to  game pass it's kind of an insane deal but you know i guess you could argue good for consumers  um and you know now that they own that company they own those games they don't need to make  the internal costs their intermittent cost is the game pass right and they see in the long  run the fact that you know consumer can look at it and say it looks like too good of a deal  they love that they love that because they'll get your credit card and then they'll get that  money back from you one way or another and then is it sustainable like that's what i wonder oh  yeah subscriptions are proven to be sustainable i mean you look at i always go back to the example  like spotify as one of the first successful modern subscription services and obviously apple apple  music and all that stuff now but like you look at your credit card history and how much i've paid  over time for those subscriptions and like hbo and if you try to break that down to like how many  movies or cds i would have bought i never would have spent that much money they got my money right  you know let's talk about the social dilemma or i'm waiting for that netflix documentary  the subscription dilemma coming two years from now maybe not maybe from apple and the hardware  is just expensive enough to feel obligated to stay in that uh eco that subscription ecosystem yeah um  the two questions that come up for me are are we going to see more acquisitions i know microsoft is  unique in like how much money it has to throw around here and i'm not suggesting microsoft  is going to buy more things but is this going to spur other acquisitions uh and then like i have a  weird this is less of a question more of a take like i have a weird take on this like you know  who i think the real loser is out of this i know everyone's talking about like you know how this  impacts nintendo and playstation i think they're fine i think apple arcade is the real loser  honestly i honestly and the reason is is like not like you can you can criticize google for their  stadia thing neither of them who put so much money in this space really invested in the triple aip  and now we're seeing what that's going to do to them they're getting crushed by this i know  totally different platform totally different you know potential user base blah blah blah like when  i look at game pass in the context of apple arcade as game subscription services like forget it  like not even the same conversation it's why they won't allow xbox to do game pass  on ios and and streaming on ios unless they go through the hoops of you know having every game  be submitted and available by so they can get their cut because you know it's a place where they  are not they are not strong uh yeah it's it's i don't know if apple arcade was a success to begin  with you know i mean they they had there was press a couple months ago about how they were completely  revamping their approach to games they wanted games that were stickier and like one of the  one of the games that they used as an example was you know one of these like match three games that  you know it wasn't oh it wasn't a bethesda game it's completely different um you know  i like i love it i love that apple enabled compatibility with xbox and playstation game pads  that's great but they'll never be a game platform like in the in the same sense because that's not  their that's not what they do best but but now they're fighting their subscription company  that's what the apple one bundle with multiple pricing points within apple one there's multiple  apple ones that's who they are now as a company so um guess what xbox and playstation  are they're subscription companies now too so like i would say they're more of a competitor  now to those places than they were a year or two ago i mean to go back to the early point in  the social dilemma like what these companies are going to do they're trying to get your screen time  right the same with the game consoles it might not be for advertisers but what they want to do  is when you have that tv in your house and you're on the couch because that is something that people  do it's in their living rooms on their couch eat dinner and they want you to spend the time  playing a game versus watching netflix versus browsing the web and that doesn't work when  you're you know traveling and you have your phone so what the apple arcade is competing against is  for the time that people are using on their phones and those games while they can be it's  why the match three games work because they they work on that same dopamine trigger that  the the the uh the slot machines uh work on which is with the same triggers that the social media  networks work on and that's what people are going to gravitate toward on those devicesit's all dystopian no good news this week hey one piece of good news john carmich tweeted  in response to microsoft buying zenimax and said uh to quote great i think microsoft has  been a good parent company for gaming ips and they don't hold a grudge against me  so maybe i will be able to re-engage with some of my old titles commander keen vr  i think we're all thinking maybe a different one but uh you know we're we're watching the  the facebook connect keynote i think i tweeted you like when zuckerberg did his his um his playing  echo vr with boss i was like this is the this is the bill gates playing doom and windows  95 moment from for zuck and you know just days later microsoft bought doom so wait is  is there a video of bill gates playing doom wait you don't know about this i don't remember that  no when they promoted i tweeted it like you can yeah you could google bill gates doom but when he  was doing maybe it was a ces keynote but it's definitely a video recorded of him promoting  windows 95 one of the big things with the women's 95 was all the graphics and so they did this  whole thing where he's like you could play games like doom and then they did like a mixed reality  thing where he's like holding the doom gun he's blasting away at the and it was like the big  selling point of windows 95 all your games are compatible too yeah that's what it made me think  of with the zuck playing echo vr and of course now like i said microsoft and two but doing vr  to come full circle it was what john carmack was so excited to show off on that duct tape together  oculus rift uh dk1 way back at uh was it quakecon or e3 e3 2012 and dude i don't think that was a dk  one that was like dk 0. that was like that was the first vr demo like you know from of of yes from  carmack or or palmer lucky like that was early and you're right i'd love to see that come all the way  full circle yeah well we're going to get doom 3 hopefully on sidequest at some point soonish so  you know it may happen whether carmax involved or not but it'd be extra cool john carmack was  involved all right we're going to do reverse order for podcasts for the rest of the show this week so  obviously we wanted to catch up on all the stuff that happened after uh we podcasted last week  from facebook connect so let's get to the vr minute the vr minute virtual reality this weeki'm gonna flip down my visor uh oh yeah there goes i'm wearing a small lens too  augmented reality i just want to be clear to our audio listeners that was not the sound  of the device that was actually norm's sound effect that he made i want to be really upfront  so john conrad did a live stream uh toward the end of the uh wednesday 5 30 wednesday it's all  online all archive on youtube so you can watch the whole thing it's worth well worth watching an hour  and a half very unscripted just talking through a debrief of like the decisions that went into  designing quest 2 and and uh and and you know mobile vr and it became very clear listening to  mike abrash's talk and john carmichael you know it's something we kind of knew but these are  very separate teams that the ar side of facebook which is i think bigger than the vr side is they  are working toward their own pipeline their own technologies to get to the dream of ar glasses  and while vr a lot of stuff in terms of the world sensing stuff and slam stuff will probably  converge on the vr side that's a very product focus side right now making the quest to making  games and making things that are shippable which is what john carmack is fundamentally  interested in some big takeaways in talking about the hardware you know the qualcomm chip the xr2 uh  acknowledged much faster of course its latest generation but does not is not used to its full  capacity in the quest 2 that they're because of thermal load they can only basically get about 50  of the 50 faster than the 835 that they had uh while gpu they can use more and there are things  that of course they can tap into in terms of the um the special processors for for imaging for io  uh that you know he went to the nitty-gritty of like the things they had to change to accommodate  you know the the chromatic aberration tweaks and the compensation and that um they did a lot of  the the tracking using the dsp and the that's what we thought yeah so he said they have a  lot more toys to play with now and we didn't see obviously hand tracking launch until well after  the launch of the quest so that's the kind of thing that they were able to discover and employ  and now they have even more at their disposal i don't think we've seen the last of what the quest  ii is capable of true very true and one of the things that he griped about was just  this is a big team right now like there are lots of different teams working on their quest too and  organizationally it makes a lot of sense that they're kind of disparate you know there's a  team working on guardian there's a team working on the core ui and the team working on the game  stuff in the store and all that gets composited together with the compositor with their shell  and that creates inefficiencies and that's one of the reasons quest 2 isn't shipping with  90 hertz native it's going to be a beta feature because guardian wasn't ready because that  that pass-through only still ran at 72 and there were some incompatibility at 90. so these are kind  of like the wonderful little insights and you know he has he has a product person has strong opinions  about things like ergonomics of controllers and and just usability uh and so it's really  interesting to dive down into for someone who has a lot of say and makes cases you know from a user  perspective as well into what goes into a product you know things that he fights for and pushes for  uh for a product like like quest two and i think most notably among them is a wireless link that  he said he's a proponent of and uh he gets pushback apparently like he's like there's two  sides to that discussion and he's i don't know he implied that they can get quite heated um  that people who believe that a wireless link should and can be you know uh done even better  than it's been done so far and there is clearly a use case for it there's people out there using  virtual desktops to stream off of the computer to the quest and having an experience that they  consider to be perfectly comfortable and usable they preferable in many cases to having a link  cable and yet there's people on the other side of the argument who say nope it's not going to  be as good as a wired link there's going to be more latency the quality is not going to be as  crisp we're not going to do it and i am 100 on carmack's side and so much to say like when it  launched last week i i suggested maybe there's hardware in there to enable it in the future but  i'm hesitant to think that now and unfortunately i don't know if we'll see a wireless link  and he even gave the name airlink and i don't think you know he's not holding out on that i  think link itself is something that they're they want to spend the resourcing to improve because  that will be the way to play the desktop games with quest two with the rift s going away uh  they never really fully answered about the wi-fi six i think you know xr2 has the 556 capabilities  yeah not in a sense of whether it actually taps into the full bandwidth you know he said it's  a 2x2 connection which is yes you're going to get like 300 megabits but the full potential  of wi-fi 6 is an order of magnitude above that and we don't have clarification about whether  the radios are in there for that that part of the spec um but yeah definitely really interesting um  and uh you know it's it's a product that they were very impressed have turned around so quickly  after quest one shipped and as of right now uh you can still pre-order it on places like amazon and  still get it on launch day on october 13th oculus's uh shipments have been pushed  to first week of november but i guess yeah some of the retailers still have them available for launch  yeah and then a couple other interviews are worth watching mkbhd did a podcast interview  it's on youtube with um with zuckerberg himself about how he sees these technologies and so much  of it is about the idea of presence for him of connecting people you know it's a lot of just  the same kind of pr talk we've seen um but uh distinguishing i think importantly  between how facebook sees an augmented reality product versus how google saw a google glass  type product you know the idea of notifications being popped up on screen was less interesting  it sounded like from facebook's perspective uh you know what things that apple watch might do  than the kind of enhancement of senses which ties into something that michael abraham has talked a  lot about which is what ar for him feels like it's the super power it's a thing that can can identify  your what you're looking at and give you you know information about it augment your  your audio clarity and all these uh senses that you take for granted um giving you that extra  not just layer of information but um the the way you interact with that visually and auditorily  i mean this is a superpower already you know it's a i mean you want to translate into any language  you're speaking to somebody who doesn't speak your language you can do it you know you can  find directions anywhere you can look up anything on wikipedia uh but yeah that put that in terms  of your live real-time senses that's another layer man that's going to be something else  yeah and i think audio you know there was that facebook reality labs video that came out about  audio sensing and you know using focus to build a pinpoint and hear things better that's something  that is solvable i think that's why the video is out there is because the optics problem is still  so much so many unknowns um maybe they're not ready to share yet but the audio side of it is  they can see that road map to making that a valuable killer app for ar um and so i'm glad  they've shared that uh other news that came out is that uh from the sessions is that  uh the quest is now gonna allow or will soon allow after launch quest 2 will allow the  downloading of unlisted apps not via the in-store menu but basically through a web link or  you can click you know a website or click it on your phone and then it will queue up for download  on your headset an app that does not need to be approved by their moderation team or their qa  team so essentially it bypasses the need for side quest and side learning at all and side loading it  all completely and there was an interview from the creator of sidequest about you know his thoughts  on this and it's it's good for developers and i think facebook will still take a cut  for apps that will charge based on that listing it just won't be surfaceable for people who just  want to browse through the store in headset or the store via the standard oculus app on their phone  but basically it kind of takes away from that business and they're gonna integrate i think those  links into sidecraft sidequests and make that more of a curated place for people to find those links  um but the ability for sidequests to be the only place really for you to get those apks  easily loaded onto your headset that's going away i mean i think it's good for developers  but i also appreciate what sidequest has done i did finally watch that video that you mentioned  last week jeremy of infinite desktop this is the mocha a brush experimental thing with the track  logitech keyboard no brainer in my mind track input track keyboard i think it's gonna be so  much more practical and usable than the virtual keyboard or even virtual cursors using gestures  both because of latency latency and also precision but man i walked away from that being like no  one's going to use their headset this this like this fantasy video of someone walking around their  house putting on a headset using pass-through just to you know do some collaboration it seems  such like a bootstrap cobbled together demo using existing technologies i could not imagine a  virtual workspace actually functioning like that yeah i wonder if the resolution is high enough  in order to really feel good um but it certainly you know it's what i see that as is just the quest  is a great cheap prototyping tool for augmented reality you know people working on those  teams can get started now in developing what those you know just experimenting  seeing what those experiences might feel like what what works and what doesn't and you know  the dream of not needing monitors and being able to make all your monitors virtual around you  and having the slam of the device know where your desk is and remember where things should be  i mean that's that's real and it looks to me like they're already making some headway and  we might even be able to test that out ourselves you're right i don't think it's going to actually  be a desktop replacement for anybody or the way they portrayed it in terms of hanging on the couch  and then you know oh no i want to get away from you know the housemates and go to a different  place and then pull up the the vr interface it's like there's so much of the user experience in  the ui in their demo that felt incomplete in fact like the closest i felt to using that kind  of virtual collaborative desktop environment was in thing like big screen where like the three of  us would be sitting in a virtual theater and we'd each have our desktops in front of us and our own  suite of drawing tools in front of us in our near field and we could see that you're looking at  your menus you're looking at your desktop on the side and then maybe throw something up on  on the the big projector or the big theater screen like that felt like more akin to what a virtual  collaborative working environment would be like um i want to give a shout out yep got it i'm just  gonna say like the the augmented reality would would put you in my environment and that that's  i think that's what people want and that's why they're employing the black and white pass-through  yeah to make that happen and that's why i mean that they need to prototype that experience  because that is the one that's going to be the mass market product someday i got a taste of that  experience today and that's why i'm wearing this headset right now this hololens so the reason i'm  wearing a hololens 2 is i have this on loan from spatial they're a company that where they did a  video um a presentation they were part of one of the presentations at connect  uh last week but they make a product that's available on quest now and available on hololens  and will be on unreal it's ar it's vr it's also browser based it's completely asymmetrical but it  creates a virtual environment where if you're in vr the three of us could be vr avatars and could  be drawing pulling up web browsers and writing on sticky notes and putting things on a virtual  whiteboard but the ar experience that i got today i was in that same virtual environment but it was  my living room and then i had avatars floating around my living room throwing things up on my  the wall that i pinned as my anchor wall uh for for sticky notes for objects and pulling  3d objects that they had uploaded from their web brow their their computers and then those objects  appeared in my space and i could manipulate them expand them and shrink them and it was it was cool  it felt like collab exactly like what you were talking about what i wanted the  the ar collaboration to feel like where i could still be on my laptop or on my phone but then  someone could pop in and i could see their virtual avatar and then have a conversation with them  and feel like they're in the same room as me how does the hololens 2 compare to other ar headsets  that you've used in terms of field of view so it's about 50 degrees and a little taller than  it is wide so much better than the postage stamp you know window that was in hull as one they do a  good job you can see if you're watching the video that you know they they cover up almost my glasses  but in the same way the unreal did there's a lot of like just space underneath the glasses where  because it's beyond where the lenses are my brain naturally doesn't expect there to be holograms  outside of that field of view so they've kind of hardware framed in and even within that they've  done software vignetting where objects disappear gracefully you know fade away when they're outside  um to one more you have to train my head it's less of my eyes looking around there's  eye tracking but it's more of my head looking around to place the objects back into its field  of view but the thing i love so far about using hololens no controller it's the hand tracking and  using the hand tracking like right now i see these rays that are cast from my hands  laser pointers essentially and i can pull them up and i can look at my wrist and tap  a start menu button and i have a menu now popped up right here that i can actually poke into and  navigate like a start menu this is what magic leap didn't have magic leap had their their totem right  their three off or no it was it was sixth off the magnetic but their their controller it was  a hardware controller it was a hardware controller and it just wasn't as intuitive so this combines  that hand tracking that i love from using the quest and using um what was it called uh that  the hand tracking um the the the the the ir blaster thing remember what am i thinking of  the thing that you put on your desk and you put your hands oh yeah not magic leap but  leap motion leap motion right leap motion the kind of hand presence that leap motion  and the quest hand tracking have that feels like they've brought that into ar  and the gestures of like clicking and you know scanning the world the slam is all really nicely  done where they have these geometric forms that kind of wrap around the walls i can see that it's  mapped that plane uh it's just really really nicely integrated i love the idea of of pressing  something on your wrist because that's what oculus calls passive haptics you know because you still  feel something there's still something tactile there but you don't need something active to  get that feedback and this this is a fixed focus headset right like there's a sweet spot for where  the menus are it's not um verifocal so where when i press this mark or the start menu button  on my wrist and it pops up and we can hear that you can hear that okay so it's popped up  it is like right here and it's perfectly crisp it's like right floating right in front of the  camera lens right here and i can tap the arrow keys and go to all apps and i can like like it  is a fully it feels like i'm interacting with this perfectly floating object in front the opacity is  pretty good i mean like resolution camera behind you know it's the same kind of waveguide artifacts  where you see like the rainbow effects and you see kind of interlacing and but text is crisp  i can read webpages i can read the ui and it's you know it gives me a lot of hope for for ar  yeah from a consumer standpoint it still feels like something i want to be working  and wearing at a desk here and at most in like a living room and not really out in  the real world but i think that's kind of what's accepted by apple and facebook and microsoft and  i think we hear so much about apple's the rumored plans for their ar classes and of course facebook  being very open about pursuing ar as the thing past vr but microsoft has a headset in the  marketplace right now that works that people are using that big companies are using and their apps  like spatial that take real good use of it um and so they you know they're a sleeping giant there  that's cool um i'm gonna flip up my glasses now as we exit welcome back luke how was your  lightsaber training oh my goodness like i could i could feel it i could feel the blaster fire  um let's move on then to a moment oh my goodness where's this a moment of science  now it's time for a moment of science uh so a quick thing before we talk about  tesla battery day which is actually some exciting science for once uh we passed a grim milestone  in the united states uh just a couple days ago with 200 000 uh cova debts confirmed uh by gau  uh by johns hopkins uh and uh a grim milestone in the context of we're probably uh significantly  under counting the number of coronavirus deaths in this country um the estimates are upwards of  uh of 10 to 15 of an undercount uh so it's just another reminder that uh  of what has been sacrificed uh to get us to this point and how much farther we have to go there is  a lot of vaccine news that's going to inundate all of you uh and i have a piece of advice try to stay  away from it um this is something i said i think almost six months ago or at least like four or  five months ago um there is going to be a lot of ups and downs with the rollout and distribution of  any vaccine even if it's proven safe and effective uh and i think for the wide majority of us we're  not going to you know see a product like that for um for months if not a year uh or longer  and which means that um you know what's happening now while might be interesting um is probably  going to go through a lot of ups and downs so i'm actually uh staying abreast of that topic  but not getting too involved in it because i know there's still a lot more ups and downs to come  as we head towards an approval all right tesla battery day uh this was the hyped event that was  supposed to happen i think in early may um and had been pushed back and uh elon got on stage  and talked about their entire cost structure um and i want to sort of break down the the battery  component of this so typical battery anode cathode and in the context of the batteries that are in  tesla cars they have tabs that are essentially welded onto the battery contacts to direct the  flow of electricity and to the larger system they indicated that in terms of the manufacturing cost  uh to make those batteries like something like 55 maybe 65 or the raw materials so  like 35 is the cost of nickel 25 is the cost of lithium which is really the material that the  uh electrons move through the substrate uh and then five percent is the cost of cobalt  uh which is uh another rare worth item um but really 35 percent of the cost is sort of like in  processing and and then there's manufacturing costs on top of that and a big part of the cost  is this idea as they build the battery is welding on uh these uh these tabs onto the battery because  it takes time there's precision uh and that time equates to additional cost and uh in the overall  process and so what he laid out was this idea um that we saw some patents for earlier in this year  which is a tablet battery that's almost like sort of like a jelly rolled up uh battery so imagine  like uh like a fruit roll-up um where there's layers of the battery that sort of rolled together  and within it there's kind of spiky elements that essentially poke into the next layer and that's  sort of poking into the next layer is how the electrons will actually cross in this battery so  as opposed to sort of being the traditional way of um you know flowing from the anode to the cathode  and then out the the tab so there's one exit point for the electricity there's going to be multiple  points for that for those electrons to flow uh and then exit the battery um and because of that  multi-flow they can manufacture these a lot faster because they don't have to weld on these tabs  uh and the process goes uh quicker then on top of that seem to indicate that we can actually start  using silicon in these batteries that is cheaper than the graphite embedded silicon that's used  uh conventionally which i think is what was the number i think it was six dollars per kilowatt  hour uh oh no ten dollars per kilowatt hour for the um graphite embedded uh silicon uh and their  process is dipping this um sort of a less sort of purified silicon in uh into this conductive  goo which they didn't really talk about um and that coding will allow them to take the  cost down from ten dollars a kilowatt hour to one dollar and twenty cents per kilowatt hour all this  was very future facing it's not like they bought it brought out a battery and was like here we go  here's the tablets battery and it's ready to go it's all seems like it's two to three years away  but this improvement in manufacturing processes is what's going to drive down the cost of the  tesla and drive up the availability of it so this this whole idea of miniaturize or  changing the process to tablets uh uh tablets battery is how they get to a 25 000  uh tesla and how they get so many more of them out there the thing that i'm most skeptical of that  they spoke to was this idea of using the lithium that's just em embedded in clay that's just sort  of widely available throughout nevada and being able to purify that did you hear that part of the  the thing that was a very strange part of the presentation that i don't sort of buy um and i  think there's going to be safety and performance benchmarks i like from what i read from a number  of uh engineers the tablet's battery as a concept and design totally makes sense is it going to have  the same the the ideal performance that um that elon laid out over an extended period of time  um are there going to be other complications it in the manufacturing process at this scale um  that are going to um that are going to cut into those cost savings that uh he's indicating uh is  it going to be as easy as sort of retrofitting elements of the gigafactory as he indicated to  to drive this forward i don't know yeah like you have to actually have to have a battery at the  end of the day but the promise is five times as much energy in this 4680 battery which is  46 millimeters by 80 millimeters um which means like an increased range of almost 20  on your car 25 000 car i mean i don't think though that's everything regarding price i i think is  taken with a huge grain of salt um you know like the 35 000 model three but it may not matter  because that's you know that's for investors and economy will change and you know demand  will determine the price i don't always say this about announcements that elon makes  but the tablet's battery is legit from like a science standpoint everything is about how their  their ability to manufacture it um everything that was said in terms of  reducing costs seems to line up with what experts think is possible um but it's one  thing that for experts to say it's possible it's another thing to manufacture at scale  i wonder what point tesla becomes a battery company primarily i think they already are  and they just buy from themselves well they're they said they're still going to be buying from  like panasonic and lg and all the other um manufacturers in the short term just because  they are uh they have so much demand that they they need those uh but they feel they said like  even with buying up all the supply they can get their hands on they would have a shortage  by 2022 in order to meet the car production they they need um i don't know this is this is not  dissimilar to what apple's doing this is complete vertical integration from soup to nuts or what  did they say from cells to cars is what they said but it is very much the same playbook that apple  has from the chip manufacturer all the way through uh to the end user product um and so from that  sense like if you think about this in an apple context you can see the play and while they are  car company now you know they also sell batteries for the home and there's a huge market for that so  in the same way that that like we always say the ipad ipod nano help make the the scaling of solid  state drives you know feasible for iphone you know this all works for power cell in the future  uh all right uh we are oh only about 10 minutes left so we're going to do a speed round  for our next section we're skipping technology because i feel like we've covered that  um with the top story and with the talk of the documentaries so we're gonna go to pop culturenextoh that was my alert that i have to be done in 10 minutes  you get an extra bit of alert i hope it's not too triggering for those of you who also use google  calendar okay um first bit uh a wonderful podcast song exploder man this whole thing podcasts get  turned or or twitter accounts get turned in tv shows but sonic exploder is getting a tv show  on netflix and they're gonna have a hamilton song coming october 2nd it's great this is  great this makes perfect sense i mean you put me in a board room with a bunch of smarties i would  have said the same thing i love song exploiter it's a wonderful podcast that takes one song and  analyzes it breaks it down to its component parts talks to the magicians who wrote it talked about  how they made it what what was the thinking what the inspirations what were the different parts  it gives you it like multiplies your appreciation for any song that's on that podcast by a million  i love it i think the thing is the challenge for them is to make it interesting across all genres  of music for people who may not know the songs or maybe not into those genres and obviously they're  getting much better access with alicia keys and women well and you know very popular songs  but they run in that same you know rock band problem where like i only like these songs and  so you know you try to please everyone so they have to make it interesting and  and have some mass appeal and obviously the producers know that i'm looking forward to it  and i'm just excited that a podcast that's been around for a long time um is getting its due as  opposed to like celebrity coming in to host a podcast which is where how the industry is going  i mean those yeah there's some great podcasts out there and some great celebrity hosting podcast  shows out there as well honestly music now is so commoditized it's like i don't think people  i think people stop thinking about the art of engineering a good song like you know years ago  i think kids just listen to music and think it fell off a tree somewhere like this is gonna be a  good show for enhancing people's appreciation for that process the creative process of song making  and that creative process has changed because of collaborations and remote collaborations  there was a whole tick tock thread the best thing to come out of tick tock was those those  back and forth people sampling each other creating interesting beats and then  you know creating duets right remotely completely asynchronously as some of the best stuff all right  mcu news got some casting news uh ant-man 3 has its villain it's jonathan major's  cast as kang holy moly what's this mean i thought for sure he was going to be a big bad  is he going to be a smaller bad or is this just going to be an intro this is massive news  kang the conqueror is one of those cosmic crazy comic book villains it's like it's not your  traditional superhero villain in in the movies uh but like it's a time traveler who sucks at time  traveling basically he's a time traveler who like fights younger and older versions of himself and  like his like is just always fighting against his destiny of like of of losing right um but  there's in the comics canon it's revealed that he is possibly an uh ancestor to reed richards  also dr doom who knows time travel gets funky and weird and all sorts of stuff but uh the theory is  that this may be a way to introduce the larger you know fox acquired licensed movie universe  stuff into the mcu and ant-man is already a weird time-traveling cosmic quantum realmy you  know they're they got the rick and morty writer in there for mn3 so you know it feels very right  that they're going to go with kang potentially as the villain off beat when you mess with time  it messes back that's true don't push back uh jonathan majors is currently in lovecraft country  amazing amazing show uh you guys should watch it it's along with the boys two favorite shows  on television right now also star trek lower decks you can handle the boys man that show gets me down  oh it's so depressing too much storm front is too much for this current moment in time yeah  love craft country while well imperfect and definitely some editing and storytelling pacing  problems uh the last three episodes extremely strong also started off strong the pilot  so good okay back to mcu news uh tv show news mcu she-hulk has been cast it's tatiana maslany  uh from orphan black as well as perry mason most recently wonderful amazing casting amazing casting  she hulk's a lawyer as opposed to he hulk who is a scientist  is this is this canon is that true it is she's she's the the cousin to bruce banner and  her portrayal has been wide-ranging we'll say in the comics uh but it's about just like the  dual personality of she's when she's hulkified she retains all her intelligence it's not like  the dumb down hulk that we get so it's just the super strength uh but person i mean we assume  they're gonna go with a cg portrayal for the hulk version and uh she's just a ver such a versatile  actor that um i can't wait yeah i think it's great casting uh also in the mcu we have the trailer for  wanda vision still coming out this year so black widow just announced today pushed back eternals  pushed back shang shi pushed back movies are not going to be great this year but we're getting  falcon winter soldier and we're getting one division and the trailer from one of vision  looks like they put that money on the screen head crippy weird no i have no idea how like what the  narrative and how they're going to execute it is uh the look and the their ability to traverse  different sort of um uh television universes it looks incredible um you don't mean like agents of  shield television like m's and netflix smartphone you mean like the tonal shifts in this the fact  that they go harken back to like a bewitch styles 60s era you know sitcom to the more gritty you  know the surrealness yeah a lot of people say it's looked akin to legion which is another like fox  marvel show uh in terms of the head trippiness of it all it can't end well uh but the the  appetite for this show is there we haven't had a new mcu thing since spider-man far from home  yeah hey and i'm also all for like a superhero show that isn't about just like beating up bad  guys which is what they've all been so yeah one of my friends said up said of this trailer oh wow  it's a marvel thing that doesn't immediately look like a marble thing you know well done  yeah um okay last bits real quick i only got three minutes left cbs all access game renamed to  paramount plus sure why not still looking forward to all the star trek shows go  watch the lower decks also out today console wars the new documentary on cbs all access  i'll watch it this is like chicken soup like the high score documentary you know probably the same  stores you've heard but you know it's something solid to put on while eating dinner lego news we  had on batman day a lego batwing ucs set looks amazing based on the tim burton 1989 batwing oh  mountable too oh mountable some great minifigs that come with that you got boombox henchmen and  uh uh you got the long tail uh the big tuxedo joker as well as batman and then also um  in lego news a lego baby yoda uh kind of a whole sculptural version that went up  for pre-order shipping next month as well uh netflix yeah not everything needs to be lego  right this is one of those like everything yeah okay um uh netflix canceled uh dark crystal  asian resistance won't get a season two rather unfortunate there i think it's one of those  things that just not enough people watched it or not enough people bought the merchandise for  it and they they wanted to be a bigger kind of franchise than it ended up being so the henson  family said they're gonna look for new ways to tell that story so that does it for pop culture  this week we made it to our deadline so i can make my call we have an outro this week from great job  this uh oh i haven't seen this one but it's called jeremy's disappointment let'smarvel and star wars uh the way that they're approaching these forever franchises  are different i mean i don't know it's really fascinating one thing at a time right  50 years from now let's let jj have his time in the spotlight yeah i i got a good feeling about  this film i'm feeling good about the next one it's all trapped one of the biggest pop culture  news items of the year was revealed this week the title for episode 8 star wars in red the last jedi  and hearing from ryan johnson and all the other people involved that this is a weird movie do you  keep hearing that too no i haven't heard it's a weird movie i heard it's going to be greatwhat did you think of the last jedi i was not happy with the film  wow obviously on record i'm an optimist i have a review for that great job  great job all right i approve thanks everyone we'll see you next weekbye\n"