AMD Ryzen 2400G mock Mac Pro "trashcan" build

I recently purchased a new gaming PC and was excited to try out some popular games. I started with Fortnite, which did the same thing as my previous game - it ran smoothly for about 90 seconds before dropping to around one or two frames per second for several seconds, making the game unplayable.

This behavior happened even after trying Fortnite, so I moved on to Dota 2, which seemed to perform much better. However, when I tried PUBG and PUGG, the frame drops occurred again, leading me to wonder if it was a lack of RAM or a buffer that needed to be replaced. To investigate further, I removed the eight gigs of RAM from my PC and replaced them with 16 gigs from another system, but this made no difference.

At this point, I was stumped and didn't understand why the frame drops occurred. It wasn't until I got the Riviera tuner going in MSI Afterburner that I could get a closer look at what was happening to my PC. The tuner showed a huge drop in CPU speed and GPU speed every time the framerate dropped, indicating that my PC was throttling.

To see if this was indeed the issue, I forced a clock speed by overclocking my CPU to 3.75 gigahertz and my GPU to 12,050 megahertz. This prevented the frame rate drops from occurring during gameplay, but unfortunately, after five minutes of gaming, my PC crashed and died.

The reason for this crash was that the case was too poorly ventilated, causing temperatures to rise excessively. In fact, the case was sitting at around 65 degrees Celsius when I was on the desktop, which is far too hot for any computer component.

Given these findings, I decided to send my PC back to Amazon and purchase a new case that would allow me to see what my machine could actually do. I'm planning to build a new PC using the Fractal Design No-Cheese, but I'd love to hear from you - which case do you think I should use instead?

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello and welcome my name's darvid and this is the channel where I do tech stuff and this is probably the worst AMD APU build on YouTube now the whole premise was pretty great I thought I wanted to build a MacPro trashcan PC but you know for people with an actual sense of value for money but as you'll see over the course of the video it didn't go very well anyway let's kick things off with a nice and tasty build montage but before that okay so let's stop the montage there for it I don't have a look at the inside of this case it looks like so over here we have the tray which the motherboard is mounted on right in the middle of the case and because of that power plug there I assume the power supply gets mounted above that and then in the roof we have a fan over there and we've got one in the basement but I'm gonna be replacing them with these and our GP one at the bottom and just a powerful one at the top this is the back of that plate I showed you earlier and this is where you mount the storage devices so you can mount an SSD or even a 3.5 inch hard drive so that's not too bad and it also gets air flow from the fan down here what's actually pretty cool about the case is that you can get the whole motherboard assembly out and then you have it separately here and you can install the motherboard and the power supply on that bracket and then put it back in although I can imagine that putting it back in is gonna be a little bit of a nightmare so this is the configuration that goes into the case and as you can see it's pretty tight here the power supply is actually resting on the CPU cooler at the moment which does not seem ideal for airflow but I'm guessing when it's hanging you'll have about that much clearance between the power supply and the fan of the CPU cooler at least you can already enter it in a way that the fan of the power supply isn't sucking in the heat straight from the CPU cooler because that would have been pretty ridiculous and then on the bottom here is the SSD so that's the whole PC pretty much in that in that little space I'm gonna have get it in so I think I've pretty much finished it cable management is not the most effective thing in this case you pretty much just have to stuff all the crap in wherever you can get it the whole power supply fan CPU fan situations obviously amazing look at that you if that's not a choke fan I don't think I've ever seen one now moving around to the back where we've got the SSD and a bunch of cables here now the cable management situation here isn't too terrible because you've got a bunch of tie-down points which is quite nice although my biggest issue is this coursera fan because the controller that it comes with doesn't actually have USB connectivity I can't plug it into the motherboard so I have this controller thing that I have to deal with somehow and I'm not going to be able to have it on the front of the case because that just is stupid so I don't really know what Coursera was thinking making it not so that you can plug it into the actual motherboard so let's have a quick look at what the cable management look like with this ridiculous fan implementation from Corsair and as you can see cable management is a bit of a mess and both the fans were really really noisy neither of them were PWM and I only had one low-power fan connector thing so I couldn't quiet them down and with that I decided to box them up and send them back to Amazon and bought two noctua nff 12 fans instead because you can't see into the case and they're like the best fans ever except for the fact that they look like something pulled them out and as you can see with the new fans in the cable management is significantly better and again you can't see the fans and it's great when I started up the PC was all quiet and everything was lovely just on a quick note after the build was finished about build quality this case is built terribly it's the kind of case where you kind of look at it slightly wrong and paint starts falling off it's built so badly that it can't properly survive the process of having a PC built in it and that kind of seems to defeat the purpose slightly after just building in at once it looked like it's been around the block and a really rough block at that a couple times now with the build process finished let's have a quick look at what the assembled computer looks like I actually think it looks really cool it's a nice color that kind of makes it stand out a bit and it's a nice size for your desk as well it is really unfortunate that it doesn't support a GPU because well once the APU gets a bit long in the tooth you can't really plug anything new in there and the whole kind of PSU placement is terrible as well and we'll see that it leads to some pretty terrifying things later down the line but if it was built better and the insides were laid out in a more effective manner it would be a really awesome case but on that note I think we can move to the benchmarking process which is gonna be a little bit different from normal because from the moment I started benchmarking it I started noticing really weird behavior with the PC the first game I tried to go with was csgo because well it's really easy to run and it did run fairly well except for the terrible framedrops and this is where I started being really concerned because it would run it like 90 frames per second for about a minute and in the frames frame rate would drop to like one or two frames per second for a couple seconds which would pretty much render the game unplayable and usually it decided to have the frames drop mid gunfight which always led to you being killed then I decided to try fortnight which did the exact same thing and then moved over to dota 2 dota 2 did less of that behavior it didn't do that dota 2 actually ran really well you can run it up to 1440p at like high settings and it still could take it but it's a not very demanding game and then I was like okay let's see if pub G Works and pop G did the exact same thing with the frame drops and then my first thought process was this feels like a lack of RAM frame drop this feels like a buffer that's been filled that needs to be replaced and then I was like okay let me test this out I took the eight gigs of RAM out which I had to get eight gigs because otherwise the PC would become too expensive and then I put 16 inside from another system it made no difference at all then I couldn't figure out at this point I was like this this doesn't make any sense to me it probably should have made sense and it was at this point that I got the Riviera tuner going in MSI Afterburner which meant I could have a closer look at what the PC was doing while the frames were dropping in the way that it did because before then I was using adrenaline software from AMD's monitoring software and that's not very useful because it doesn't really give you CPU core speeds and GPU core speeds but the Riviera tuner does do this so I had a look and there was a huge drop in CPU speed and GPU speed every time there was this huge framerate so the PC was obviously throttling and the way that I decided to make sure that this was actually the issue was by forcing a clock speed so by overclocking the CPU to 3.75 gigahertz and the GPU to like twelve thousand and fifty megahertz this meant that the frame rate drops didn't happen anymore but then after five minutes of gaming the PC crashed and death happened so obviously the PC can't maintain a gaming load and the thing is even when you're on the desktop it's sitting at like 65 degrees Celsius and that kind of brings me to the conclusion I'm not gonna do any further benchmarks because the case is so strangled by the thermal limitations of the case that there isn't really much point in doing that because well you're not really seeing what the machine can actually do it's quite ironic that this case is the shape of the trashcan because it's kind of garbage it's built really badly with paint coming off everywhere and it can't fulfill its basic use as a case because while everything just catches on fire inside of it so what I'm going to do is I'm gonna package it up in the same way that I packaged it up the two terrible fans that I had earlier send it back to Amazon and get a better case to build this machine in so that we can see what it can actually do so yes there's another video build log thing for me that's gonna have a part two but this time the part two is gonna basically have a different PC in it I think I'm gonna go with the No - OH - by fractal design let me know in the comment section below which case you think I should replace it with because yeah it's disappointing that this thing doesn't work out because I really like the idea behind it although if I have a different ITX build case for it it means that it will have future expandability so that I can put a GPU and at some point when you know like I said before the the internal GPU gets long in the tooth anyway thank you very much for watching this kind of fairly pointless video again if you liked the video do like and subscribe to the channel if you haven't already share it with your friends if you think they'd enjoy watching a trash can garbage PC and with that thank you very much for watching bye byehello and welcome my name's darvid and this is the channel where I do tech stuff and this is probably the worst AMD APU build on YouTube now the whole premise was pretty great I thought I wanted to build a MacPro trashcan PC but you know for people with an actual sense of value for money but as you'll see over the course of the video it didn't go very well anyway let's kick things off with a nice and tasty build montage but before that okay so let's stop the montage there for it I don't have a look at the inside of this case it looks like so over here we have the tray which the motherboard is mounted on right in the middle of the case and because of that power plug there I assume the power supply gets mounted above that and then in the roof we have a fan over there and we've got one in the basement but I'm gonna be replacing them with these and our GP one at the bottom and just a powerful one at the top this is the back of that plate I showed you earlier and this is where you mount the storage devices so you can mount an SSD or even a 3.5 inch hard drive so that's not too bad and it also gets air flow from the fan down here what's actually pretty cool about the case is that you can get the whole motherboard assembly out and then you have it separately here and you can install the motherboard and the power supply on that bracket and then put it back in although I can imagine that putting it back in is gonna be a little bit of a nightmare so this is the configuration that goes into the case and as you can see it's pretty tight here the power supply is actually resting on the CPU cooler at the moment which does not seem ideal for airflow but I'm guessing when it's hanging you'll have about that much clearance between the power supply and the fan of the CPU cooler at least you can already enter it in a way that the fan of the power supply isn't sucking in the heat straight from the CPU cooler because that would have been pretty ridiculous and then on the bottom here is the SSD so that's the whole PC pretty much in that in that little space I'm gonna have get it in so I think I've pretty much finished it cable management is not the most effective thing in this case you pretty much just have to stuff all the crap in wherever you can get it the whole power supply fan CPU fan situations obviously amazing look at that you if that's not a choke fan I don't think I've ever seen one now moving around to the back where we've got the SSD and a bunch of cables here now the cable management situation here isn't too terrible because you've got a bunch of tie-down points which is quite nice although my biggest issue is this coursera fan because the controller that it comes with doesn't actually have USB connectivity I can't plug it into the motherboard so I have this controller thing that I have to deal with somehow and I'm not going to be able to have it on the front of the case because that just is stupid so I don't really know what Coursera was thinking making it not so that you can plug it into the actual motherboard so let's have a quick look at what the cable management look like with this ridiculous fan implementation from Corsair and as you can see cable management is a bit of a mess and both the fans were really really noisy neither of them were PWM and I only had one low-power fan connector thing so I couldn't quiet them down and with that I decided to box them up and send them back to Amazon and bought two noctua nff 12 fans instead because you can't see into the case and they're like the best fans ever except for the fact that they look like something pulled them out and as you can see with the new fans in the cable management is significantly better and again you can't see the fans and it's great when I started up the PC was all quiet and everything was lovely just on a quick note after the build was finished about build quality this case is built terribly it's the kind of case where you kind of look at it slightly wrong and paint starts falling off it's built so badly that it can't properly survive the process of having a PC built in it and that kind of seems to defeat the purpose slightly after just building in at once it looked like it's been around the block and a really rough block at that a couple times now with the build process finished let's have a quick look at what the assembled computer looks like I actually think it looks really cool it's a nice color that kind of makes it stand out a bit and it's a nice size for your desk as well it is really unfortunate that it doesn't support a GPU because well once the APU gets a bit long in the tooth you can't really plug anything new in there and the whole kind of PSU placement is terrible as well and we'll see that it leads to some pretty terrifying things later down the line but if it was built better and the insides were laid out in a more effective manner it would be a really awesome case but on that note I think we can move to the benchmarking process which is gonna be a little bit different from normal because from the moment I started benchmarking it I started noticing really weird behavior with the PC the first game I tried to go with was csgo because well it's really easy to run and it did run fairly well except for the terrible framedrops and this is where I started being really concerned because it would run it like 90 frames per second for about a minute and in the frames frame rate would drop to like one or two frames per second for a couple seconds which would pretty much render the game unplayable and usually it decided to have the frames drop mid gunfight which always led to you being killed then I decided to try fortnight which did the exact same thing and then moved over to dota 2 dota 2 did less of that behavior it didn't do that dota 2 actually ran really well you can run it up to 1440p at like high settings and it still could take it but it's a not very demanding game and then I was like okay let's see if pub G Works and pop G did the exact same thing with the frame drops and then my first thought process was this feels like a lack of RAM frame drop this feels like a buffer that's been filled that needs to be replaced and then I was like okay let me test this out I took the eight gigs of RAM out which I had to get eight gigs because otherwise the PC would become too expensive and then I put 16 inside from another system it made no difference at all then I couldn't figure out at this point I was like this this doesn't make any sense to me it probably should have made sense and it was at this point that I got the Riviera tuner going in MSI Afterburner which meant I could have a closer look at what the PC was doing while the frames were dropping in the way that it did because before then I was using adrenaline software from AMD's monitoring software and that's not very useful because it doesn't really give you CPU core speeds and GPU core speeds but the Riviera tuner does do this so I had a look and there was a huge drop in CPU speed and GPU speed every time there was this huge framerate so the PC was obviously throttling and the way that I decided to make sure that this was actually the issue was by forcing a clock speed so by overclocking the CPU to 3.75 gigahertz and the GPU to like twelve thousand and fifty megahertz this meant that the frame rate drops didn't happen anymore but then after five minutes of gaming the PC crashed and death happened so obviously the PC can't maintain a gaming load and the thing is even when you're on the desktop it's sitting at like 65 degrees Celsius and that kind of brings me to the conclusion I'm not gonna do any further benchmarks because the case is so strangled by the thermal limitations of the case that there isn't really much point in doing that because well you're not really seeing what the machine can actually do it's quite ironic that this case is the shape of the trashcan because it's kind of garbage it's built really badly with paint coming off everywhere and it can't fulfill its basic use as a case because while everything just catches on fire inside of it so what I'm going to do is I'm gonna package it up in the same way that I packaged it up the two terrible fans that I had earlier send it back to Amazon and get a better case to build this machine in so that we can see what it can actually do so yes there's another video build log thing for me that's gonna have a part two but this time the part two is gonna basically have a different PC in it I think I'm gonna go with the No - OH - by fractal design let me know in the comment section below which case you think I should replace it with because yeah it's disappointing that this thing doesn't work out because I really like the idea behind it although if I have a different ITX build case for it it means that it will have future expandability so that I can put a GPU and at some point when you know like I said before the the internal GPU gets long in the tooth anyway thank you very much for watching this kind of fairly pointless video again if you liked the video do like and subscribe to the channel if you haven't already share it with your friends if you think they'd enjoy watching a trash can garbage PC and with that thank you very much for watching bye bye