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Overclocking a CPU: A Comparative Analysis with Modern Processors

The author of this article recently experimented with overclocking their AMD Ryzen 5 5600X processor, which resulted in a stable 4.05 GHz frequency. However, when compared to an older Intel Core i9-9800X processor, the results were quite surprising. The 5600X was able to maintain a higher clock speed than expected, while the 9800X struggled to reach the same level of performance.

To put this into perspective, the author notes that they were able to overclock their CPU to 4.4 GHz with just an AIO (all-in-one) liquid cooling system on their motherboard. However, when it came to the 9800X, even a high-end AIO like the NZXT Z53 was unable to sustain the same level of performance, let alone reach the higher clock speeds achieved by the 5600X.

The author also attributes this difference in performance to the cooling system, stating that the Ryzen 5 5600X is able to maintain a stable temperature even when running at high frequencies. In contrast, the 9800X has been known to crash constantly at temperatures above a certain point. This suggests that the 9800X may be more prone to overheating than the 5600X, which could contribute to its lower performance.

In addition to cooling issues, the author notes that the 9800X also struggles with modern games like Escape from Tarkov and Rainbow Six Siege, which are relatively CPU-intensive. In these games, the 9800X is unable to keep up with the 5600X, resulting in significantly lower frame rates.

On the other hand, the author observes a significant performance difference between the two processors when running esports titles like CS:GO and Rainbow Six Siege. The Ryzen 5 5600X is able to maintain an average of 677 frames per second on low settings, while the 9800X only manages around 300 frames per second. This suggests that the 5600X has a significant advantage in terms of gaming performance.

Another factor contributing to this difference in performance is the price point and TDP (thermal design power) of the two processors. The Ryzen 5 5600X is significantly cheaper than the 9800X, while also having a lower TDP. This makes it more efficient and able to sustain high clock speeds for longer periods.

The author also notes that the Ryzen 5 5600X has several features that are not available on the 9800X, including PCI Express 4.0, M.2 slots, and better I/O capabilities. The X58 motherboard used with the 9800X only has two SATA ports, whereas the 5600X's motherboard has more extensive storage options.

In terms of overclocking, the author found that getting a stable 4.05 GHz frequency on the 9800X took about an hour, while the Ryzen 5 5600X was able to achieve this frequency with ease. This highlights the differences in boost algorithms between the two processors and suggests that the Ryzen 5 5600X is more straightforward to overclock.

In conclusion, the author's experiments have shown that even a high-end processor like the Intel Core i9-9800X can be surpassed by a modern CPU from AMD, such as the Ryzen 5 5600X. The differences in performance and features between these two processors highlight the advancements made by AMD in recent years.

Modern CPUs vs. Legacy Hardware: A Comparison

The author's experience with overclocking their Intel Core i9-9800X processor serves as a reminder that even high-end hardware can be surpassed by modern technology. This raises questions about how legacy hardware, such as the 9800X, compares to current-generation CPUs like the Ryzen 5 5600X.

One possible explanation for this difference is that modern games are designed to take advantage of newer hardware and software features, such as PCI Express 4.0 and better I/O capabilities. As a result, older processors may struggle to keep up with the demands of these games.

In contrast, GPUs tend to age less than CPUs, meaning that even high-end GPUs from previous generations can still be used to play modern games. This suggests that CPUs, particularly those with advanced architectures like the Ryzen 5 5600X, may have a significant advantage in terms of gaming performance.

A PC Build Challenge: Lessons Learned

The author recently participated in a PC build challenge with Timmy Joe, which did not quite go as planned for them. However, this experience provided valuable lessons about building and overclocking a high-performance computer.

For those interested in building their own PC or trying out the challenge for themselves, the author recommends checking out the video description below for more information on how to participate and what went wrong with their build attempt.

Getting Back to Basics: The Importance of CPU Performance

In recent years, there has been a growing emphasis on GPU performance as the key factor in gaming and content creation. However, this overlooks the critical role that CPUs play in these activities.

A good CPU can make all the difference in terms of overall system performance, rendering times, and even frame rates. In many cases, a strong CPU is just as important as a high-end GPU.

The author's experience with overclocking their Intel Core i9-9800X processor highlights the importance of CPU performance in modern computing. By pushing the limits of their hardware, they were able to achieve impressive results that demonstrate the potential of these processors.

However, this also serves as a reminder that even high-end CPUs can be surpassed by newer models with improved architectures and features. As technology continues to evolve, it's essential to stay up-to-date with the latest developments in CPU design and performance.

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwhen it comes to graphics cards nine years is a very long time it's more than enough time in fact to take a flagship tier graphics card and turn it into a dumpster firedeer graphics card but is it the same story with cpus now to answer this question i decided to pit the first ever six core consumer cpu kind of against the newest six core cpu to see if the gap between these two is as gaping as it would be with equivalent graphics cards the first of the two cpus that we're gonna put head to head in a six core versus six core challenge is the intel i7 980 which is an x58 platform based cpu which means it's not entirely accurate calling it a consumer cpu but it was one of the first readily available six core cpus whereas the newest six core cpu that we're comparing it to is the ryzen 5 5600 x which is a seven nanometer high ipc gaming behemoth of a cpu so i'm curious to see how these two stack up before we get into the benchmarks let's have a look at the two platforms that i'm going to be using for the various cpus in this challenge now as far as the i7 goes i'm going to be using this gigabyte g1 sniper x58 board that looks really good this is back in the day when bright colors schemed motherboards was still a thing and i really like the way it looks another cool thing about x58 as a platform is that it has triple channel memory it is ddr3 but there's something really awesome about that huge bank of dim slots on the right hand side of the motherboard now as far as the ram goes i'm going to be using 24 gigs for the i7 system so it's three eight gig sticks of ddr3 1600 megahertz which is weirdly expensive if you want to buy it from a shop these days which i had to because it's because of short notice and stuff like that now when moving over to the system that i'm going to use with the ryzen 5 5600x i'm actually using an itx motherboard because it's the only b550 or x570 board that i have available for this test but it's still got a pretty beefy vrm and it doesn't really hold the cpu back much so i'm going to be using this asus strix b550i board on the amd cpu i'm actually going to have less ram available because i'm really bad at math and i couldn't make three divide into 16. i mean i'm joking but still so we've got a little bit less ram but it is running at a faster speed so i thought that's a worthwhile trade-off to make and 16 gigs is still enough for all of the games that we're testing so we're not going to run into any bottlenecks necessarily um but yeah so it's running a ddr4 3600 megahertz and it's a true dizzy kit as far as the gpu goes i'm using an rtx 3080 and considering that i'm gonna be benchmarking most of the benchmarks at 1080p it's it's yeah we're not going to have a gpu bottleneck here i'm also going to be using the same cooling for both of the cpus which is nzxt's new z53 240 millimeter aio and i've slapped some noctua nfa 12 fans on there just up just to overkill it to the max one of the things that i really like about this aio is that you can display beautiful gifs on on the on the cpu block so with all of the semantics out of the way let's lock these two cpus in a room without parental supervision and see what happens okay i'm gonna stop these benchmarks right here because three benchmarks in i thought wow this i7 is doing way worse than i thought it would be doing and then i redid those benchmarks with msi afterburner so that i could see what the cpu was doing and i realized that this old i7 has a real loser auto boost algorithm in there it was basically just running at its stock frequency which felt a little bit unfair to me considering the fact that the ryzen 5 5600 has just an uber amazing auto overclock feature which basically does a better job than you could do if you manually overclocked it so i thought i'm gonna do the rest of the benchmarks and redo the ones i already did with an overclocked i7 980 because i feel like it's more representative of you know to the limit performance of these two cpus considering that comparing a 980 to a 5600 x is already like pitting a 56 year old against an 18 year old in like a hundred meter sprint i didn't also want to repeatedly tase the 56 year old right before the race uh yeah so this just feels a bit more fair now when it comes to overclocking the 980 i didn't have a great time on the internet i was reading that some people could overclock the cpu to like 4.4 gigahertz with just like an aio or like a liquid cooling system on there whereas the highest core frequency i could get was 4.05 gigahertz any higher and it would crash constantly um and i don't think it's a temperature issue either because this z53 aio with those noctua fans on it it's it's really good at cooling these six core cpus so yeah that was the best i could do now bearing that in mind let's get back into the head to head to see how the overclock 980 compares to the boost frequencied 5600x even with the 980 running at 4.05 gigahertz as opposed to the 3.4 gigahertz ish that it was running at with the previous tests the gap is still pretty big starting off with escape from tarkov escape from tarkov really doesn't like old cpus apparently and it seems like it's a reasonably cpu intensive game there is a there's a big difference here when it comes to battlefield 5 again the difference is clear um although with the overclock the 980 feels significantly more playable than it did when it was running at 3.4 gigahertz so yeah there's that gta 5 made a difference but you were still getting high refresh rate-ish gaming results with the 980 although it's about 40 percent slower than than the 5600 x here the place where it made the biggest difference though seems to be with esports titles cs go got 677 frames per second average with the 5600 x on low settings compared to a measly 300 frames per second with the 980. that 677 fps is madness actually if you think about it um the same goes with rainbow six siege you're you're getting a pretty big jump in performance with the i7 980 gets absolutely curb stomped is when it comes to cinebench here we have more than double the performance from the ryzen 5 5600 x just look at that single core difference it's madness and it's not just performance i mean the price point difference between these two cpus at launch is huge i mean the 5600 x is the runt of the range at the moment whereas the 980 was like the beast of the range so you also take that into account and the fact that there's a huge tdp difference between the two cpus the ryzen cpu also kicks the 980 and the balls when it comes to features set it's got things like pci express 4 as opposed to pci express 2 which could be one of the things affecting the gaming performance you've got m.2 slots on the motherboard and much better io the x58 board only has two sata six gigabit per second ports which are like an additional kind of chip that they had installed on there so you have to install drivers and stuff for it it's not just like natively supported the much better boost algorithm on the new ryzen cpu it took me about an hour to get that 4.05 gigahertz stable on the on the 980 whereas with the ryzen cpu you just set and forget and it works really well so who knew apparently the 980 which is a 9 year old cpu doesn't compare very well to a brand new 7 nanometer ryzen cpu although getting back to the comment that i made in the beginning of the video if you compare a nine year old flagship gpu to like a current gen mid-range gpu i honestly think there'd be a much bigger difference between the two cpus seem to age much better than gpus because all of these modern games were still playable on the 980 whereas it's not necessarily going to be playable on the gpu that was the king back then so with that it brings me to the end of the video now this motherboard i actually got for a pc build challenge with timmy joe which didn't quite work out very well for me so if you want to check that out i'll have it linked in the description below and yeah if you liked the video like and subscribe to this channel for more videos like this one and until the next video bye youwhen it comes to graphics cards nine years is a very long time it's more than enough time in fact to take a flagship tier graphics card and turn it into a dumpster firedeer graphics card but is it the same story with cpus now to answer this question i decided to pit the first ever six core consumer cpu kind of against the newest six core cpu to see if the gap between these two is as gaping as it would be with equivalent graphics cards the first of the two cpus that we're gonna put head to head in a six core versus six core challenge is the intel i7 980 which is an x58 platform based cpu which means it's not entirely accurate calling it a consumer cpu but it was one of the first readily available six core cpus whereas the newest six core cpu that we're comparing it to is the ryzen 5 5600 x which is a seven nanometer high ipc gaming behemoth of a cpu so i'm curious to see how these two stack up before we get into the benchmarks let's have a look at the two platforms that i'm going to be using for the various cpus in this challenge now as far as the i7 goes i'm going to be using this gigabyte g1 sniper x58 board that looks really good this is back in the day when bright colors schemed motherboards was still a thing and i really like the way it looks another cool thing about x58 as a platform is that it has triple channel memory it is ddr3 but there's something really awesome about that huge bank of dim slots on the right hand side of the motherboard now as far as the ram goes i'm going to be using 24 gigs for the i7 system so it's three eight gig sticks of ddr3 1600 megahertz which is weirdly expensive if you want to buy it from a shop these days which i had to because it's because of short notice and stuff like that now when moving over to the system that i'm going to use with the ryzen 5 5600x i'm actually using an itx motherboard because it's the only b550 or x570 board that i have available for this test but it's still got a pretty beefy vrm and it doesn't really hold the cpu back much so i'm going to be using this asus strix b550i board on the amd cpu i'm actually going to have less ram available because i'm really bad at math and i couldn't make three divide into 16. i mean i'm joking but still so we've got a little bit less ram but it is running at a faster speed so i thought that's a worthwhile trade-off to make and 16 gigs is still enough for all of the games that we're testing so we're not going to run into any bottlenecks necessarily um but yeah so it's running a ddr4 3600 megahertz and it's a true dizzy kit as far as the gpu goes i'm using an rtx 3080 and considering that i'm gonna be benchmarking most of the benchmarks at 1080p it's it's yeah we're not going to have a gpu bottleneck here i'm also going to be using the same cooling for both of the cpus which is nzxt's new z53 240 millimeter aio and i've slapped some noctua nfa 12 fans on there just up just to overkill it to the max one of the things that i really like about this aio is that you can display beautiful gifs on on the on the cpu block so with all of the semantics out of the way let's lock these two cpus in a room without parental supervision and see what happens okay i'm gonna stop these benchmarks right here because three benchmarks in i thought wow this i7 is doing way worse than i thought it would be doing and then i redid those benchmarks with msi afterburner so that i could see what the cpu was doing and i realized that this old i7 has a real loser auto boost algorithm in there it was basically just running at its stock frequency which felt a little bit unfair to me considering the fact that the ryzen 5 5600 has just an uber amazing auto overclock feature which basically does a better job than you could do if you manually overclocked it so i thought i'm gonna do the rest of the benchmarks and redo the ones i already did with an overclocked i7 980 because i feel like it's more representative of you know to the limit performance of these two cpus considering that comparing a 980 to a 5600 x is already like pitting a 56 year old against an 18 year old in like a hundred meter sprint i didn't also want to repeatedly tase the 56 year old right before the race uh yeah so this just feels a bit more fair now when it comes to overclocking the 980 i didn't have a great time on the internet i was reading that some people could overclock the cpu to like 4.4 gigahertz with just like an aio or like a liquid cooling system on there whereas the highest core frequency i could get was 4.05 gigahertz any higher and it would crash constantly um and i don't think it's a temperature issue either because this z53 aio with those noctua fans on it it's it's really good at cooling these six core cpus so yeah that was the best i could do now bearing that in mind let's get back into the head to head to see how the overclock 980 compares to the boost frequencied 5600x even with the 980 running at 4.05 gigahertz as opposed to the 3.4 gigahertz ish that it was running at with the previous tests the gap is still pretty big starting off with escape from tarkov escape from tarkov really doesn't like old cpus apparently and it seems like it's a reasonably cpu intensive game there is a there's a big difference here when it comes to battlefield 5 again the difference is clear um although with the overclock the 980 feels significantly more playable than it did when it was running at 3.4 gigahertz so yeah there's that gta 5 made a difference but you were still getting high refresh rate-ish gaming results with the 980 although it's about 40 percent slower than than the 5600 x here the place where it made the biggest difference though seems to be with esports titles cs go got 677 frames per second average with the 5600 x on low settings compared to a measly 300 frames per second with the 980. that 677 fps is madness actually if you think about it um the same goes with rainbow six siege you're you're getting a pretty big jump in performance with the i7 980 gets absolutely curb stomped is when it comes to cinebench here we have more than double the performance from the ryzen 5 5600 x just look at that single core difference it's madness and it's not just performance i mean the price point difference between these two cpus at launch is huge i mean the 5600 x is the runt of the range at the moment whereas the 980 was like the beast of the range so you also take that into account and the fact that there's a huge tdp difference between the two cpus the ryzen cpu also kicks the 980 and the balls when it comes to features set it's got things like pci express 4 as opposed to pci express 2 which could be one of the things affecting the gaming performance you've got m.2 slots on the motherboard and much better io the x58 board only has two sata six gigabit per second ports which are like an additional kind of chip that they had installed on there so you have to install drivers and stuff for it it's not just like natively supported the much better boost algorithm on the new ryzen cpu it took me about an hour to get that 4.05 gigahertz stable on the on the 980 whereas with the ryzen cpu you just set and forget and it works really well so who knew apparently the 980 which is a 9 year old cpu doesn't compare very well to a brand new 7 nanometer ryzen cpu although getting back to the comment that i made in the beginning of the video if you compare a nine year old flagship gpu to like a current gen mid-range gpu i honestly think there'd be a much bigger difference between the two cpus seem to age much better than gpus because all of these modern games were still playable on the 980 whereas it's not necessarily going to be playable on the gpu that was the king back then so with that it brings me to the end of the video now this motherboard i actually got for a pc build challenge with timmy joe which didn't quite work out very well for me so if you want to check that out i'll have it linked in the description below and yeah if you liked the video like and subscribe to this channel for more videos like this one and until the next video bye you