Talking VR at SXSW 2016 _ Podcast Special

**The Future of Virtual Reality: A Revolutionary Technology**

We're on the cusp of something revolutionary here. The idea that we can have telepathic typing is fascinating, and it's an area where VR technology is pushing the boundaries of what's possible. This is a very exciting space to explore, and I think that's what makes VR so compelling - it's not just about movies or gaming, but about unlocking new applications for various fields such as journalism, medicine, education, sports, and more.

**The Value of Virtual Reality**

I've been thinking about the next big thing in VR, and I'm convinced that we're on the verge of something incredible. The technology is still in its infancy, but it's rapidly improving, and we can already see the potential for VR to revolutionize various industries. We need to think about what comes after VR - a perfected version of this technology that will take us even further. And I believe that's where we are right now.

**The Current State of Virtual Reality**

Let's face it, VR is still not perfect. It can be awkward, and the experience can be overwhelming at times. But despite these challenges, VR has already made an impact in our lives. We've all been there - having a great time with friends who are completely immersed in the virtual world, only to have them suddenly disconnect from reality. That's what happens when we're all too caught up in the experience.

**The Applications of Virtual Reality**

One of the most exciting things about VR is its potential applications. From cinematography and logistics to journalism, medicine, education, sports, and more, there are countless ways that VR can be used to enhance our lives. I'm constantly amazed by the possibilities that this technology presents, and I believe that it has the power to transform industries and revolutionize the way we live and work.

**Social Media and Community Building**

If you want to stay up-to-date with the latest developments in VR, social media is a great place to start. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and across all of our social media channels to stay informed about the latest news and updates from Android Authority. And don't forget to check out our YouTube channel for exclusive content and behind-the-scenes insights into the world of VR.

**The Future of Virtual Reality: A New App**

We've been working on a new app, and I'm excited to announce that it's finally ready for launch. This app is something special - with no ads and a user-friendly interface, it's the perfect way to experience the power of VR. We're incredibly proud of this project, and we can't wait for you to try it out.

**Conventions and Events**

South by Southwest was an incredible experience, and I'm so glad that John Dy could join us. We had a blast attending panels, workshops, and networking with like-minded individuals who share our passion for VR. If you're interested in attending events like this, be sure to follow us on social media and stay tuned for updates.

**The Android Authority Team**

I want to thank my fellow team members - John Dy and Darcy Lauve - for their hard work and dedication to creating high-quality content about virtual reality. I'm proud to work alongside such talented individuals who share my passion for this technology.

**New App Launch**

We're excited to announce that our new app is now available for download. This app is a game-changer, with its sleek design and user-friendly interface making it the perfect way to experience VR. Don't miss out on this opportunity to try something truly innovative - download our app today!

**The Future of Virtual Reality: What's Next?**

We're just getting started when it comes to virtual reality. As we continue to push the boundaries of what's possible, I'm excited to see where this technology takes us. From education and entertainment to healthcare and beyond, VR has the potential to transform industries and revolutionize the way we live and work.

**Final Thoughts**

I want to thank you for joining me on this journey into the world of virtual reality. It's been an incredible adventure so far, and I'm excited to see what the future holds. From our YouTube channel to our social media accounts, stay tuned for updates on the latest developments in VR. And don't forget to follow us for exclusive content, behind-the-scenes insights, and more.

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been a freelance writer for a few years and uh Darcy scooted me up and put me on the news trying to build a Dream Team guys for those that don't know go to the website and authority.com you'll see some of the most just well-written articles on the side John has a real way with words he's a true Wordsmith appreciate it man I appreciate it really really gifted and if you can hear the music in the background we're giving you a slight taste into just what it's like here at South by Southwest after all this is a film and music festival we were here for the interactive portion which kind of is like this much compared to how big everything else is and I just did a pan shot at the beginning of the of the cast of six Street Sixth Street is right over there at that's where all of the parties and the drinking and the craziness happens I I will say maybe we were there one night just saying maybe I don't remember so um tell us about South by what do you guys think I I had a thought just on the way back from uh using the labatory which I had request permission to do but my thought was you know internet social media technology everything it just seeks to augment human Inquisition human necessity and at a conference like this which is very uncharacteristic for guys like us to come to it just really really shows you how important communication and connection is because like this is a conference that runs for two weeks guys and it's like a Non-Stop party of startups and music and music videos and art and videos and Obama was here crystallizing Michelle the yeah Michelle was here too oh okay anyway um it's been a really really fast everybody you meet here is uh they have they have something going on they they have some crystallized kind of energy and uh you kind of want a piece of it so yeah there a there's a Vibe here yeah and Nev looks like he's feeling the vibe right now just it's pretty freaking cool yeah it's really cool three words to sum up South by Southwest all right and it's Austin has the tagline Keep Austin Weird keep it weird God damn this this conference really does it's wor think everything you think about Texas throw it all out the window yeah it's uh Austin is not a very good representation of Texas I'm I'm a Texan um born and raised I currently live in Louisiana uh I haven't spent a whole lot of time in Austin though but my experience over the past week is really tempting me to move here I'm really thinking about it in the next year so it's a really young City and this is a really young and by by Young I mean like the people are very young Austin has a lot of young people in it South by Southwest has nothing but young people I mean we go to like CES mwc EA and all that it's just suits all day suits all day I'm not wearing a suit he not really I was so nervous actually to come here guys I'm a human okay but cuz I used to have my suits which are like my bulletproof choices of armor but I couldn't do that this time so I was watching all these videos on South by South by and everyone's just like rocking teas and just like hitting on their e smoke and just being super cool and they got tattoos and like I'm coming from church you know what I mean so I couldn't do it uh so I had to wear stuff I normally wear with my friends and stuff we had a couple run-ins with uh my phone's going off we had a couple run-ins with uh music live music while we were here um and I don't want to mention the honor one just yet because that was a that was a that was that was special but it was one put on by a company we would otherwise go see anyway but for us it was like you walk around six Street like we did just like an hour ago the restaurant that we were eating at all of a sudden band started playing really good music was really good music yeah a lot of a lot of alternative a lot of rock lot of bass yeah a lot of bass uh so that's what South by is all about and if you've never been to South by Southwest and you're a music lover or even a film lover especially from the creative side South by is a wonderful Festival to be at I'm planning on being here every year from now on just saying I'm really looking forward to coming back I'm really into it so I mean so to sorry to interrupt you but like what do you feel is the greatest appeal like what is the magnetic energy like what what is it about this that you're so compelled to I think I think you I think you answered your own question there's there's this magnetic energy to it you know and there's just there's just something about the city and all the people here where everyone's just having a really good time and everyone's a and nice everyone's a creative Southern Hospitality is on top of all of that for sure and you know you could pick anything to do during the week of South by and you can probably find it and there's just a lot of fun to be had here uh the weather could be a little bit Hit or Miss but otherwise walking outside in the in the humidity with this big ass backpack that I have on my back compared to Louisiana this is dream weather this has been wonderful all week all our brothers in India we know we know heat but we don't know you're kind of heat but down here it's kind of wet heat we got a lot of brother dude India's number two if you're watching the video you just saw that and if you're not watching the video you need to go and check it out just gave me a look because I patted him on the shoulder after that after do he's a Indian coming I will say coming from the UK this weather is Sublime Sublime but it's like being in London it just changes constantly what but what how about okay so how about coming from the UK how how has Austin treated you so far cuz again we are out of our element here Android authority is kind of out of its element out of element we we'll talk about we'll talk about a few instances that happened where it made sense for us to be here but we'll talk about that in a bit I want to talk about the festival you know I want to talk about South by Austin is just all right so you hear a lot of stereotypes about Texas and Austin is basically like you said it's a young City a metropolis within God's country I believe is the way you put it God's country see I'm learning but no Austin's almost like nothing it's almost like a mix of multiple cities and i' I I said this to you earlier Josh I think this is very much liken to for UK people probably the American version of glastenbury but on an incredibly bigger scale but nobody knows glassenbury yeah it's a it's the probably the UK that's a madeup word famous it's like hipster Town well glenbury is a massive Music Festival one to the UK okay yeah South by Southwest launched their first album wasn't it glenbury was where the Beatles La had their first concert not a clue I think anyway no it doesn't matter so let's bring it back to tech let's bring it back to what we're supposed to be exra I tried guys I tried I I tried to talk about South p as much as we could but we do have okay I just want to say something barbecue oh yeah oh my God brisket beef frisket sandwi are first night well speaking of like connecting it to Android and Tech my first day here I came earlier than these guys cuz I wanted to see the trade show I wanted to see what vendors are here who we could get contacts with there were a couple of people um and one of the videos will be about a VR camera by raicho um but the first thing that happened was I got to my Airbnb I got changed and then the guys over at next bit just hit me up and said hey you're in South by also come on over so we ended up hanging out the whole night and we went to we went to La Barbecue a what barue it's called La Barbecue La Barbecue yeah basically you walk into this small little IND descript area and there's a big what looks like a food truck and behind it is just the barbecue pit and just the smoke is coming out of it and you get there and it's just so good and my favorite thing was that's sexy man I I saw on the yel that the brisket was really good and I'm a brisket man yeah you are I went over there and there was a sign that said sorry only brisket left see that's God loving you no problem Praise Jesus I'll have a pound of a brisket right now please and he proceeds to put like half a loaf of bread on top of it I'm just like what is happening no no no no oh I'm getting so hungry really good uh so beef brisket to technology yes what's the connection the connection is the is the highest possible Joy right beef brisket is obviously amazing they marinate it they think about it they spent centuries perfecting it and what we're here is that we're at the Apex of human technological and cultural Evolution want be frisk that was a brilliant segue that was some my name is great abs it was amazing I love it let's talk about Donald Trump no no no no no no but be brisket VR right brisket VR just a slab of me just a slab me Brant segue to a no no no no but we can bring it back right I mean we're here guys because we know what what's the future what's the future virtual reality but no no no even beyond that take away the platform just look it's increased modality it's it's it's gamechanging platform it's sensory hijacking is what it is yeah yeah what but I mean that's what virtual reality is you know coming from the creative side obviously being the YouTuber on the cast right now I'm really we love Josh I'm really interested in the 360 camera stuff because now we're going to learn a whole new way of Storytelling not even with even without the VR and all that stuff but even just going on YouTube and being able to drag around the frame you don't need a VR headset to be immersed so when are we going to see a 360 video from Josh a 360 video where only 9° of it are being used I you said 10 yesterday oh I said 10 yeah we're only 10° of the 360° are being used for the review and the guy's like oh he he's got a nice he's got a nice room exactly right you're like laund in the corner you know yeah ex right look at your shoes under the bed dancers or something put in the put in the apartment you need like a white room right you need like a an isolation chamber that would be really really weird if you had like me just walking up to the camera on one side and the whole room is just this white like Matrix room well you could have some we have like a Android authority Banner around right we get a nice chair to sit in well so the reason why we're talking about virtual reality is because there's actually a big presence of virtual reality here at South by Southwest um South by has always been about the creatives film music but in terms of film 360 video is kind of the next big thing for filming because it's about putting somebody in a new area in a new place where they can actually experience it whether or not it's with VR uh they they can see it and actually move around and actually see the space around them well it was it was a panel yesterday that said imagine at least not so much from a film but just from a Content perspective imagine a news reporter who's sent to one of the most remote like the scene of a major incident and his through VR he's now able to like consumer is able to go well we've understood this but we want to be able to see things what happened from another angle we want to see what's that over there go over there in that corner and being able to experience more dimensions of the same or more more viewpoints of the same scene I keep having the same thought okay the music's getting louder so make sure you're real close to the mic at this point sorry guys I'll talk real low she's a badama um so the thing I keep thinking about is actually like it's just about VR itself right about how to access it how to use it so okay so they look at broadcast media right you have a camera that will go on to be broadcast and replicated across servers and television networks and satellites to be consumed by millions of people let let's look at something tragic unfortunately like what happened in Paris right which is caused worldwide security to be heightened fairly but my point is is is that you so things you have one medium which is grabbing something and then it's being replicated from millions or hundreds of millions or whatever A lot of people but with VR like the limitation is like we all have one of these you know but I I can't just do that and even with Google cardboard like it's like H you're trying to click the app you put it in and you have interface and you don't how to interact with it CU you can't touch the screen like basic basic things like that um are preventing this from achieving Mass adoption so I'm just curious to know what you guys think about that well that's obviously the start right but John did you have something you wanted to say um I I really think that like companies like Google and Samsung who are pushing their VR products really hard this year uh it really does feel like 2016 is going to be when VR is going commercial like it it is going commercial and that that idea of having that that extra step for the medium of needing the headset and stuff it's just like how you had to get a TV set whenever TV got really big you know it's just part and parcel of it but well um The New York Times from what I remember during the panel that I was able to go to uh the New York Times was able to send out Google cardboard to hundreds of thousands of people went ahead and millions subscribers basically every single one of the New York Times subscribers got a Google cardb because they're going to be covering that like putting putting just even an image remember yeah exactly so one of the panels that I went to was about creating compassion using virtual reality and imagine putting uh after like the bombings in Syria just to have a VR camera right there what matter what kind it is it could be the gear the gear 360 the LG 360 just putting it there and hitting the shutter button and then letting somebody actually look around there's this building bomb to Hell bodies on the floor and if if ever and just to be able to see the devastation makes it more real narrative and it creates this narrative for journalism and for news where empathy becomes a commodity H where you can have your readers actually cuz it's immersive you're you're there is what it feels like cuz you could read it on a newspaper page you could read it on a Blog even But ultimately you're detached from the situation and now empathy is going to be added on to this whole experience this this uh it kind of like this kind of dovetails into another important thing that we're talking about with VR is that or with 360 video in particular is that um so film is an old medium you know by by to standard so we have we have these conventions of Framing and like how you tell a story and how cuts are made but we haven't built that yet for 360 video and so what we're what we're doing is we're like we're kind of building a language right cuz whenever you watch a movie it's like there's a language to film I really really don't think any of us are prepared you what I really don't feel like any of us are prepared no no no just speaking frankly not in terms of our coverage but in terms of humanity of adaptation here's the thing though if there's one thing I'm going to take away well several things but one thing I can definitely say taking away from some of the panels we've been to is yeah there's a lot of guesswork in VR a lot of gu at the moment there is no unified uh audio codex codex codex things like standards all of that so at the moment you know VR is we're on the cusp of the Next Generation but we're not at the Next Generation and where we're at this year is companies are going to feel their way into it that that's why I believe that things like the gear 360 are really important because you need to actually put creative ability in the hands of consumers because that's how you start to build that kind of language shocking that GoPro hasn't come up with the camera yet well because they they they have a a very set not really strategy but like you know they know what their products are let's be honest they make more money by selling GoPros to companies that try and ARR yeah yeah yeah but that's also it you know like um but now that Samsung and LG have come out with their versions of what a 360 small camera could be LG do you see it yeah we we saw LGS we weren't really a 360 I didn't see it um yeah it's very similar except it looks like uh what's the best way to put it oh it's uh it looks like a TV remote if I'm not mistaken yeah kind of a TV remote it's very it's it's it's elongated and quite flat it's like a really large thumb yes it's like it's like a really large competing images for me I have no idea I'm like nothing is in my imagination right now imagine your phone all right I'm with you half the size in terms of width that's the kind of General I it and then it's like it's like and then it's like it's like circular at the top like there's a okay how about uh how was LG's VR headset the VR headset I wasn't able to really try it it's just a screen attached through a no no no it's it's two two two eyeball goggles it's a goggle it's a goggle um I don't remember the spec on it uh Chris Carlin was the one who was able to use it nice and light yeah yeah because they connect to the USB type-c port they don't it's not a it's not an installation for the phone but it only work on the G5 uh well they're going to try to make it work with other phones but the G5 is the start the G5 is the start of it uh the main issue that Chris Carlin had with it was that there was a lot of light bleed from the the visor um I didn't really get to try it a whole lot but it's in the it's in the LG VR headset or goggles whatever you want called them that the images made by the lg30 are going to be like most compatible and that was another issue that we heard about VR here at the show was how do now we're starting to get into what Android has always had to contend with fragmentation because everybody's going to be making three uh 360vr stuff we've already started to see that there's like four or five companies for everything five how about like four or 500 or thousand it's funny you fair there are a lot of startups here that I was talking about big names like HTC you again it's just they're fighting for the life right the sunshine 98% of the energy is consumed by the biggest tree jungle is what you're saying know what I mean everybody wants to be the tree just on touch on that it's funny you say that because the biggest problem facing any content creators within VR is what do you support yeah without a unified standard every one of these headsets is mostly will there will be compatibility eventually but if you're a content creator who wants to use VR in the Here and Now you really have to be very specific about what you support because if you have compatibility for one particular type of headset there's no guarantee it's going to work with others and there's no guarantee it's going to work technically the actual 360 video or photo is a is just one codec and it's it's just one codec what's it called again Josh uh a Cod a what yes a what the codc what's a codc a codc I don't know what the codc is called I have no idea what it or something something like that I don't remember what the is right now but it's just one codec that is then interpreted by a bunch of different companies who add on their own features on top of it like for example um the uh gear the gear VR takes a certain type of video at a certain ratio but it's the same codec that's basically what I meant yeah the other obvious option is we' obviously spoke to some people we we uh spoke to that lady from one of the broadcast networks in the UK one of the big TV stations and their problem again is very similar what do you when you're when you're a content creator F you're doing certain codec but you've got to try to you know it's not just enough to put a generic item out there you have to almost to really build up the experience and get enough interest you have to do it in such a way that you are playing to certain features I also feel like we have to explain something poor John di over here is not able to really contribute to the conversation you'll notice that he's the only one not wearing a badge oh yeah so uh those of us with badges for interactive were able to get into a lot of stuff not a whole lot of music or film but all the VR stuff obviously John D unfortunately I kind of invaded you guys it wasn't it wasn't totally planned freaking yeah exactly John die had to just roll up in his Z4 which is an amazing car in red as well R it's just so shame about the driver though down convertible convertible I love I love driving it but like that which is one of the reasons why I had no problem just coming down here because 7 hour drive 7 hour drive I've been working with these people for eight months I never met any of y'all in real life never met anybody in person so this is my first time inter some people like Andrew grush and bton and petran we worked together for over four years and they've not ever met each other really and it's really unfortunate R never met you have to appreciate guys that we're doing 00 articles a month 120 150 videos sometimes more we're all decentralized Josh La in London you're in Louisiana Louisiana Alabama I'm in Vancouver La China wherever I mean it's so when we get a chance to come meet face to face jump on that so A couple couple quick things VR is just a mo modality a medium that is meant to rectify loneliness and isolation we all experience that's why 70% of our brain matters devot towards communication that's why we need to love that's why we need talk that's why social media is so big secondary to that is smartphones are just finally starting becoming adopted by people now you guys aren't people you're nerds and you're really smart and you all have Bright Futures you really do I tell you be a nerd people love you they trust and respect your opinion we're so passionate about what we do and that's why we do what we do and we're just moving that into VR but imagine your grandparents trying VR imagine normal people trying VR imagine somebody watching 8K VR of like UFC fight and watching those explosive punches that finish and kill the guy again you should say that because we're so far off normal people experiencing the things that we got so my dad yeah what would that what that camera even look like of the person getting punched in the face in the UFC ring that's what I want to know like it's a 360 sphere with at least six angles and and you want them to wear that during the fight no no no it would just it would just be a pole or it be oh you want to see the inside of the Octagon it would probably a couple I thought you wanted people to experience what it's like to fight what they're doing in the NFL now is they have these high tensol strings this like NASA gr technology of of wires that the same like 40,000 lb of pressure and they have the drones going back and forth on the wires that's how they do all those crazy shots which they overlaid with VR or ar rather and you know Sports is fascinating because and Haven never really understood the Curiosity cuz I'm not a sports guy but like sports is a trillion dollar your business and there's so many people you know like look at the Super Bowl right I mean anyway was yeah just on what you were saying about so my dad so I was tested when we got the Galaxy S7 and the S7 AG when I got them in the UK to your dad I was testing out the gear VR oh yeah did you show your dad I showed my dad he freaked out no way but then went I like it yeah now would he before I explained what it was he just thought they were a pair of glasses how old is your dad you should know man I am doing mental MTH 67 on the spot just some the air is 6 672 okay he's still young man yeah okay whether he doesn't understand what VR actually is in the in the respect of it takes you know it takes several you have to explain things in a certain way however it peaked his curiosity and for average consumers a lot of them are afraid of change but there is equally enough people who will go what is that and one thing Samsung's doing exceptionally well is at least in in a lot of their popup places around the at least in the UK but also in other places around the world they're doing their roller coaster demo to show off what VR is to show off how immersive it is it's amazing I can't talk about it because I don't like roller coasters so you should try it neither do I but it was fantastic it really hijacks it does make you want to throw up off cuz I got well I got nauseous um doing the Oculus uh uh roller coaster demo don't have the badge I don't really remember why but I did yes me in I'll be Darcy have you tried any VR platforms John um I I have a I got the Google cardboard whenever they did the Star Wars release thing but cardboard is really my only experience with VR so far but I I love it like me too I took it around show it my family right did do game yeah yeah uh I'm I'm looking to getting a PS4 soon I mean Dark Souls 3 is coming out so like I'm going to add my face to that cuz I can't wait to have enough time to play video games I'm an xbo y can go do yeah I I was a long Xbox but you know that whole thing about them being like okay we know we suck now we want to have an open platform that connects to other like games gaming consoles right Microsoft and Intel they're so scared and Qualcomm they're scared because they know like even like a a side correlator to all this it's completely an off tangent is like the notion of container based Computing systems is like Facebook built their own data centers Google built their own Facebook or data centers and all this technology like it's they're realizing that they can build it specifically at really low cost to do really high performance stuff and um so platforms even Android everything like it could just go by the way the doo bird and hopefully not because then we wouldn't be able to be here I know right but there's a lot to love with where this is going yeah for a content creator like me trying to figure out new ways of Storytelling that was always that was the word that came up so much during the show was storytelling yeah as as as Darcy's video will show um story drives content that was the quote no story drives consumption oh sorry story drives consumption yeah not content the best quot of the whole conference for me remember that guy I definitely believe in that scar scar Scara I'm sorry Michael I know you're not going to watch this I'm wrong with both Nam Mark Scarpa yes like Brilliance though attending these panels guys many names so many names this whole show in any case the um storytelling was a huge part of what VR of the what the future VR should be like cuz imagine like I was saying earlier you're going to get like 15° 10° 10 10 to 15° of me holding a phone then everything else doesn't have anything to do with anything and one of the best one of the best examples I heard was how um ciru solle was able to literally recreate their show so that it was like performing in the round so you're sitting in the Middle with the VR headset on you're watching One facet of cirule in front of you but you can turn literally anywhere and there's something thing going on yeah and then it would happen in phases in acts so that you would just move to this one can you imagine like F1 racing right F1 racing like you're in oh I want to see second place now I want to see first place and then like oh I want to do like a fly by camera NASCAR is doing that this year really yeah they are I I covered it are some are yeah they're uh good for them I can't remember are going F1 fan I am a massive F1 fan huge F1 F I likeed like are you we've got broadcas in the UK called sky and they do they give you access to a lot of the onboard cameras but the like imagine we seeing a crash or a collision oh my not not just a collision but being able to go on the onboard camera and at the point of collision turn your head and see see the the the two cars Collide the big whatever happens off it that level of immersive content is unparalleled I imagine that's what Nascar is gonna do even taking the Step Beyond NASCAR does I understand they're not doing it in the it's a it's a live stream they're not doing it in the individual vehicles but they have several like you can sit in the stands virtually or you can like they've got one in the middle like the big green area I don't know what that's called the middle just started but imagine things like live sports right not like UFC but imagine football cuz we're actually going to get to the point so aside uh corar is um Oppo and mem's sensors had a huge breakthrough in the last month they've been investing I'd imagine probably almost a billion dollars M's M's uh technology is really fascinating because it's uh it's micro electronic memor um magnetic uh sensors and so basically that's OAS right Optical in stabilization and so now they found a way that they can they've miniaturized uh they've miniaturized the the the Imaging sensor and they put it on a a platter that's connected to all these wonderful magnetic uh systems and so that you have really stabilized image my point is is that it's leading to further minorization of optical technology of camera photonics image capture and um they've already the NFL's already pioneered a system it's a system they have a they put on a a light mesh with some actuators and uh they're able to do VR capture while a person's like running at like 40 m hour you know and they're about to smack into a 400lb guy that's freaking insane and and there and this is all like pre 5G stuff but they have a little battery pack it only has a couple hundred grams and uh they're able to do live you know what I mean like yeah this is kind of you talking about live streaming like you had you had a very profound moment in one of the panels speaking to speaking to one of the uh one of the people that had um the panel that was called the VR live music experience yeah and yeah tell them about the question that you that you asked you knowk mark Scarpa Mark Scarpa if I remember correctly it is markar in La though so Che him down no you were you were speaking to the person next to him who was talking the middle oh yes yes um uh his last name was bro bro yeah Brew or something that guy he's like 20 years in the industry they created was it Steven Breo no Ryan bro could could have been it's about the it's about the question these guys like uh what Yosh talking about we attended this panel it was all about live streaming VR and like immersion and it was so cool because we didn't have to pay and these guys had like between them probably 100 years of experience of VR and of live broadcasting of you know recording V VR experiences for concerts and big big names man like Rolling Stones and others and um Woodstock they had a they were saying how they would they would love to take Woodstock and create a VR experience based on that but of course you can't do that now but there's a there's a documentary about Woodstock that really captured what that whole event was about and imagine if you could actually insert yourself in that moment in time you know you can't do that anymore you know yeah you can't do that with Woodstock you asked about um data streams bandwidth basically yeah so obviously we're here because we're learning you know the the the logistical side of things we want to know what it might be like to take this kind of platform 360 cameras and everything especially considering Samsung and vanill G have created their very consumer based products and probably use it for content for us yeah you know um obviously there are a ton of other products that are out there GoPro Rays um there are a ton I love the ones that look like a like a Rubik's cube of oh yeah yeah I those are so funny and uh there was a guy with a helmet on that had it on his helmet just walking like hilarious he's like why is your neck so stiff um this is on a vlog that I watched at at southp he's like why is your neck so stiff he's like I have to keep it very very still because people who are watching right now they could get nauseous if I like go like this Whip my hair right Will Smith daughter will and it's just like there's there's a lot there's a lot to figure out still in this in this platform but that's what makes it exciting and that's why we came here yeah because get to be at the precipice of something when was the last time we were ever feeling like we were on the precipice of something well when we started hro back when I went to that's I felt precipice this is a definitely a precipice right here yeah but yeah I mean um are you I mean how do you feel being on the you kind you weren't able to really experience or hear what we got to hear here you know what I mean like but no but you know it's like right like you hadang with somebody who's kind of drunk you feel drunk too he got a lot through verse osmosis and John D is an exceptionally talented creative and he's highly perceptive so thank thank youan even though you didn't get a chance I know that you got a lot just through oh yeah just hanging out hanging out the house and talking to you guys about this stuff has been do you think uh what what would be a what would be a massive event that you would want what would be a what what would be a massive event that you would want VR good question yeah what I'm ready for actually cuz you know narrative is kind of my bag um something like a feature film that's that's shot complete 360 something that you it's a completely immersive experience we have that what's that movie that's coming out it's a first person movie it's a gangster movie actually on a low budget we saw it n remember it was like The Godfather it was we'll dig it up and put in the description yeah it was a it was a very lowbudget yeah God movie that based around the Godfather that was exceptionally done based on the for what they did with the money it was it was 360 video toal 360 it was the first cinematic feature film 88 Minutes has ever been done that's what I'm excited about that's what I W and it was crazy because you know that's the whole thing that's really messing with our minds guys is like we're so used to 9 degrees or 10° you know 50 Shades a gr my point is is like you know when we're creating content for you like look at us right now like we're stuck in a frame but imagine you can see like over there or imagine you can see behind you or blow it up right yeah and just to give some context you would see right now um South by Southwest music is happening so all of these exhibit HS being used for concerts and you heard the music earlier you know to be able to see people going in and out of there you could see that in this Frame but Austin Texas is all there to behold right over to that right that window right out that window that's right over there lighting big this is right we have an escalator here that's 1,000 ft long we go on up four floors and the dimensions of the scale of the convention centers that we attend we're talking millions of square feet guys so I really wanted to do this podcast in like a really cool area like stubs barbecue or like somewhere and just imagine what our podcast would look like if we're on location and we put a 360 camera right there and we're talking to you the table yeah exactly we be talking to yeah and then this is kind of forced it's like a Lord I'm not I'm not a fan or we could do it like that 70 show style where the camera keeps spinning around I mean it would be up to them to SP yeah exactly but uh that's what's interesting to me about this is because we're since we're losing the frame like it really is a completely different language that we're dealing with these conventions haven't been developed like right now when you watch a movie when characters move from like the left side to the right side of the frame that that gives you a sense of progression like that's deliberate film language but whenever you put them in whenever you shoot a feature film in 360° you don't have that anymore and so we have to develop new ways of comping that this this wasn't this wasn't fully articulated in any of the panels I went to when it came to storytelling but like the um the whole thing of cuts and actual film making styles that kind of gets eliminated in 360 jarring right yeah cuz let's put this way like the whole idea that if I were to stop this podcast right now say good show everybody and put the mic down if I were to put the mic down right now there would be a shot of me putting the mic down you'd hear the thud and that would be like a shot that would be a way of like really showing in a storyline that we're moving forward but in a 360 frame like what are you going to do get the 360 thing closer to the you know do those kinds of cuts and cuts are in in and ofs are weird in 360 VR cuz it's it's a complete Interruption of experience because whenever you see a cut in film one we have the language established so like we're okay if a shot just like picks up in the middle of people expect it they need it and I think that's due to the um inversely proportional and I use that word a last ameh but it's kind of the inversely proportional framing that necessitates the Conant requirement for change whereas if it was an open medium and there was less production it would be such more of a richer experience as opposed to like people needing things constantly fed at them to keep things interesting maybe so but I mean bit of a weird idea it's it's weird you know like the filmmaker in me is is is is is crying at that idea you know like that that the filmmaker doesn't get to really dictate the story anymore I know and yeah cuz they can't don't have that framing control it's a loss of control the Creator aside from like all the great stuff we watch on Facebook which is like super cut of like fails and all that other fun stuff finds but you're fading sadly um actually everything is is gravitating towards the informal conversation and I I I would opt that people are are choosing authenticity over controlled production is what cuz Society is is going through a massive cleanse right now you know and all this artifice that we've been forced because of corporate and financial interests sorry I'm going a bit of attention uh I really think that people just want Rio you know well then know then that would mean that live streaming social events world events actual like things that are happening are what that that's what this medium is made for future films I agree with you if someone could make a future film that man that creates this that that a real film that actually leverages 360 right now like it's coming have you not seen that Star Wars thing they did and the Martian which which Star Wars thing um so the Lucas film boys I mean so George Lucas he's like you know what I'm done with this I like had a good time cash out to Disney for 4 billion Disney made back that 4 billion like three months off capitalizing off all the Star Wars media and Partnerships and integration so out of control but a lot of guys they pieced out and they formed a VR content studio and they have massive funding hundreds of millions and The Verge did a really uh I got to commend The Verge you know cuz they're always quite excellent but so they went to their headquarters and they had a guy experienced a Choose Your Own It was the world's first Choose Your Own Adventure VR and it was uh he was flying through Tatooine and they gave him a lightsaber and it was like it was like HTC V but like you know Ulus but like media and so it's like do you go left it's like do you go right like do you sense person do you negotiate and it was like a 20 minutes experience that they did and it was uh really big we're talking way ahead of the curve you're pretty tired huh no no I'm actually listening cuz is very interesting it's really interesting I wanted to hear from you cuz I feel like we hav heard from you in a bit oh I was going to just want to touch on what you said in that VR is for the experiences well to deliver the experiences that we don't try to cover now the things that just can't be covered in the traditional mediums of now I honestly can't see something like VR being used for a review or something as you know as focal focused as that what I can see it though is from a consumer Viewpoint and this was touched on in one of the session sessions imagine being able to give you an example imagine you've got you and 10 friends are about to go on holiday but one of them gets seriously then can't make it imagine taking a 360 camera and being able to let them experience it in a way that's probably the closest they'll ever get to it without actually or handicap people or Mobility people or disabled people or old people yeah the people who can't make who can't physically be a new experiences can still experience all of this but again in a virtual world it comes back to the same fundamental problem you're going down to your cubao with your buddies it's not like you got like a 5G LT like 100 megabit uploaded connection we're not taking live it's just cont you're always taking live yeah true live streaming is an entire different entirely different kler fish and something like the gear three uh what do they call it 36 gear 360 is the G 360 yeah I thought it mag that's not designed for live streaming that is designed for someone to take it out I'm just going to use Josh's S7 here and just be able to go like this show off the entire thing and then take it home and send it to someone you don't even have to rotate I someone just go videoing it like this and then when you are watching it back you can see it as if you were standing here looking around just like this that's that's how they're advertising it too is is shared experiences of like oh here we're in London or like you know vacation Stu mark Zuckerberg was the one I'm stealing a line from gabo from uh from the panel I went to uh Mark Zuckerberg is the one that said virtual reality is going to be the new Social Network the next platform the next social media platform yeah or whatever that was the case um but yes to your point the Reiko Theta this is the only this is the only 360 camera that I was able to have a Hands-On time with here because there weren't that many it was all about putting on a goggle and like really having fun with it no I wanted a creative side of things so I saw I saw the REO Theta yes there were a couple of go Pro Ray and stuff like that but this is kind of tried andrue science at this point the REO Theta there was a a demo and you'll see it in the video which I I'm going to put together a little bit later there was somebody speed speeding there's somebody speeding down I think it was the Brooklyn Bridge or was it the Bay Bridge in San Francisco at night while and the person in the it was a convertible the person in the car and the passenger seat was just holding up the Theta and you could like look around and even though even though the footage was shaky it wasn't that bad and you're just looking around and you just see like the ocean out there and all that so like that's uh sharing is going to become a little bit more uh a little bit crazier to your point about um 360 not being used for reviews I did just think of one thing um we could use 360 for behind the scenes but but in this sense imagine maybe me or lawn we put we we we set up a room where it's literally Workstation workstation workstation workstation different scenes for a review and you put the 360 camera in the middle and it just shows us here we are on one side filming the phone here we are on another side kind of like doing a couple of host segments here we are on another side typing up the review you know what I mean like it's just like a microcosm of like what we do just want to add to that because reviews are part done inside but the stuff people really probably want to see is not your room because let's be fair there's only so much excitement you can get out of room the stuff you do on location like Google I we we need to do it well with your S7 video Jos even if it's not live what Google I we got to do it even if it's not live we'll find out your S7 review you had the shots with the S7 as the key focal point and then just slightly bucketed out was the waterfall in the background that's a 10° view what about the rest of that scene what was to the right what was that waterful what happens when you look up to the left and all the way around things like that absolutely cuz there were I remember any any old Android authority fans would will probably remember I remember doing the Android weekly show um uh before before Jay came on and and Jay shout out to you man you're doing great lots of love brother I did one episode of Android weekly while on vacation and I would do I would do segments of every every news story was a different location so I remember talking something about like Hugo bar leaving Google or something like that and in the background was like the notredam and then all of a sudden I'm on the Eiffel Tower and then all of a sudden all this stuff so yeah it could be it could be a great way of sharing like where we are and all that like even being here at South by Southwest Joshy Joshy you know even before Joshy came on four faithful years ago I was like I was in like a cluster F uh trying to wrap my head around uh how to share things as richly as possible and so the the medium that was presented to us was YouTube and you know we get to go to so many cool places we're really privileged you know thank you for your support but now we're on the C of uh further like further a new way you I lose my words thinking about it and and for now what we see kind of comes off as oh it makes sense it's a live event it's streaming it's oh here's here's the bottom part of the Grand Canyon that no one's able to go into and you can see it or throw it into antalope Canyon or throw it into a cave where it's all like cuz like I remember seeing one where it was um it wasn't a cave it was a geode it was literally like a crystal it wasn't Earth you just you were you were walking into the hugest Crystal geod wen't they called geod GE big spiky yeah cool blue things and stuff and and someone put a made a 360 photo of it you could look around yeah oh that's amazing I want to see that oh man I'm scared to go into a cave you know what I mean like water like hiking like down like four miles down claustrophobia kind of we've all seen that movie where there's like the scary zombies in the earth uh Destiny or it starts with a d d The Descent descent that's what I said but I want to see the pretty crystals I couldn't hear you I want to see the crystals but I'm scar so like these are all the applications that we get to see and and and it makes a lot of sense but now you're also getting people who are just grabbing these 360 cameras and just like okay so I'm a big Casey nicad fan if you guys couldn't tell from the nice St okay um if you guys didn't tell from the Vlogs I'm starting to use like time lapses and all that stuff no you don't say I huh no what I know okay but uh I'm like guys give me give me 10 minutes and I'm like time but 10 minutes for him is 10 seconds for you I appreciate that but you have the right point the vlogging is where the 360s is just going to be amazing well it will be vlogging 360s it will be but this is the thing Casey nead at one point had a 360 like GoPro circular array and he was holding it on like a selfie stick basically he to use all of his strength to keep it up it's noty he what he did was all these different applications for it he went around the corner on a Manhattan Street and like imagine this is the wall and he just puts the goes like that and he goes I can't see what's happening over there but you can that's cool true and there's like two people around the corner looking over like what the heck is that well no that's it I just keep thinking about uh so in our previous panel yesterday just about this live streaming VR thing there was a gentleman in a wheelchair and he was a he was an official photographer sou by Southwest and I you know we all see people who have less Mobility than we do sometimes and anyway after we talked and everything and you know we were able to ask questions he's like you know what he's like I don't really think you guys are appreciating like how important VR is to me it's like I can't go to a concert cuz of my Mobility I can't go to the Cays cuz my Mobility I can't I can't experience these things by mobility and he's in a wheelchair and I was just like you know what and and the other thing prior to that in the previous conference or no rather a conference after scobble and the D laena woman who was exceptionally brilliant I we'll find out and put in the description below cuz she was but just talking about the children who have third degree burns who are like on the verge of a lot of really bad stuff when they changed the bandages it causes extreme pain and they often go into Comas and stuff rather than having to give them the morphine and on the highest grade painkiller they were able to put a VR headset on them of snow and ice and of cooling and it didn't even need painkillers it hijacked their senses so much that it was able to remediate all so for me I'm it's not so much about Android being like I liked Android and and we saw Android 30 because I knew that it was going to enable technological democracy to billions of people but VR I'm more focused on how does it help the people who are at least fortunate well put it this way that's a imagine the the the implications of just what I remember this panel now and it it that was probably one of the most striking things to take away what happened after I left H what happened after I left that was mostly conversations and uh were good ones yeah there was some very interesting stuff to come out that panel it was probably the one panel I would say that you were talking to you were listening to three people talk every one of them who to varying degrees understands this and has tons of experience between them just going back to VR because you're giving me a thought that's you know that's great for those those children that's that showed one real world application of VR but imagine giving out a Google cardboard or giving out a very inexpensive VR headset to millions of people in Africa in lie of building a school and allowing them to learn and progress in life and experience new things to develop as human beings without the need to put the physical walls and this is the key thing about VR it's going to open up opportunities we are let's be honest we are some of the most fortunate people in the world because we get to do what we love we get paid to do it and we get to see all these amazing experiences our example earlier this year was my first CES and I had people going you're you're so lucky that you ear CES and I was like why cuz it's Vegas no cuz it's CES people want to do these things but again this is a first world problem VR has the ability to impact to the very far corners of the globe and reach the third world the people the you know the really underdeveloped countries that have suffered on Hard Times the whole of Africa used to be one of the richest places on Earth and through the select actions of few individuals turned into one of the poorest places on Earth for the overall for the overall individual in in those countries all of these companies the likes of Google the likes of Oculus the likes of Facebook likes of everybody who's involved within the VR space you know may not be now it may not be for 2 years but when we get to a point where they can do this at significantly low costs I mean Google cardboard is low but you need a smartphone inside it to run it so the cost the cost goes up when you're able to do it or even come up with an a VR experience that you know in lie of people donating 5 to $20 to build a school and maybe being able to afford 10 bricks imagine being these companies going give us $10 we will match it and that means one child will be able to study and learn okay here's an injection right like I lived in La for 2 years it's for for those of you who have creeped on me enough I live in LA for 2 years while we started Android 30 cuz I had my back against the wall my mom died I ran out of money and I started Android 40 and it was a moment of desperation a 3G internet connection in the jungle working on a 10ish netbook writing 15 posts a day and doing Photoshop I hope you appreciate it but going to Hong Kong after it was like who my mind got blown I guess my point is is that I noticed in uh developing economies and under developing economies like Lao versus uh San Francisco is that people in underdeveloping economies where they finally get access to pretty much incredible magic that they tend to gravitate towards the ENT tainment and the Mania whereas it Dev economies like States and Europe and so forth they are using these tools for productivity and increasing quality of life and learning but the undeveloped economies like southeast Asia and India and Africa they just like go straight to Candy Crush you know that might be the case is going to be a tool a medium for education or is going to be a medium for escape I would love to dive into the education aspect of things I will just say one quick thing on it because I do think we have to wrap up here um on the education side that might be the thing I'm most excited about is to see that now there's no reason for kids to fall asleep in class very very true right when you put on a VR headset and you're actually seeing I keep going back to the Grand Canyon cuz I went like a month ago you see the Grand Canyon rather than just seeing this like 2D frame on here and it just says oh there's a lot of crevices and pre precipices like all that was it as cool as it looks it's great imagine learning about an act that happened I'm not American back go imagine learning about the war of independence that's what it's called yeah the war of independence but instead of learning from a book and having to build it through your imagination or maybe seeing this odd you know maybe seeing a poor quality film imagine being able to throw a headset on and walk through the battle or experience the battle in all of the senses whilst it's happening and all the way through it you can hear your teacher telling you and you know being able to use VR to experience the T the most striking moment but you know no matter what if there going to be uh film Productions that make these VR versions of what we already have in classrooms and all that stuff it's still going to be corny as hell you know but I just had an idea that I don't want to share cuz I really think that has potential to be a game changer but I'm going to share it not to be conceited but you know and imagine an open sourced platform wherein academics and experienced people who lack Mobility are able to document and attribute certain things so for example you take a VR rig on a go on a stabilizer through the Lou and he's like oh this is a Picasso and but we don't know about exactly what trying to doen and kind of the information that's Aug augment AR that's mixed I will credit that lovely lady yesterday who will said the Microsoft Holland is not VR it's not AR it's mixed reality we don't need to talk about M Microsoft well we do because we're talking about VR at this moment but just they don't even have enough money to make it work okay moving on from any uh we're not talking business we're not talking business we're talking here mixed reality because that's crucial being able to like you said walk through the loop but not just get a little sign you've got this person who's imagine being able to tap into the mind of someone like Steven Hawking and everything that he knows and in overlay it onto a VR experience you would inspire a generation of people in a way that you can't in phys in physical very very very true okay we're down to the wire here um I want to make sure that we uh we get a few few words from John cuz he's wanted to say a couple of things SN I no what I was going to talk about is cuz Google is doing something related to these Expeditions yes exactly Expeditions a friend of mine is actually using them in his classroom and or well a friend of a friend but yeah um and I think that that's that's really all I was going to point out is like that that this is being done and Google if I understand the program correctly you just say we would like to have VR in our classrooms and Google's like great we're going to bring it to you they bring a tablet they like teach the for teacher how to do it it's proon it's only in a few cities right now yeah yeah it's it's just like just like goog Dallas just like Google fiary it's only in certain plac fiber is there fiber here there is fiber here in Austin fiber in Austin oh my God so I'm so moving here I know you are Expeditions if if you don't remember my video from IO last year Expeditions is every kid in the classroom has a cardboard a smartphone to run it and it is run by the teacher who has a tablet where the the teacher can move the frame to direct the kids to what they're looking and the reactions on the kids faces when they see something cuz and you know what they're strapping they're strapping VR rigs on the space station and all the satellites and stuff that are going up and the kind of experiences you know like video games and all this has attempted to achieve parody with the Beauty and the magic of this Incredible Universe that we occupy and now we are probably I mean I'll tell you if you're watching this and you're under the age of 24 you have a in my opinion 48% chance of being able to live forever okay what 48% chance of being able to live forever oh being able I thought you were going to say something like being on like getting on Mars no no nobody's going to Mars but we can live forever maybe even if it's a digitally replicated em emulator of our mind you know that still of course there will no be Soul transference out of the body to an environment that's uh digital but there at least you'll maybe in some off in the new one the thesan ship problem you have to have that gradual transfer is this is a whole rabbit hole we can do an entire podcast on this I love when our podcast gets existential yes yes isn't everything existential in a way yeah no it's funny though it's it's pull it back to VR though y were talking about like all the awe and inspiration that comes from this on the other side of that coin you have horror video games horror is terrifying in VR I can't even play play play Google cardboard games I cried after man yeah it's just so in your face I mean it is in your face like flashing and hacking I can't do it the dark house and stuff all no there are going to be people who will want to experience it and there will be people who who who who it appeals to at the end and I totally want to even though like my amnesia the Dark Descent character is still locked in a closet because I couldn't play the game anymore but it they content creators will create content for people who want to consume it if you know if 90% of VR people with VR don't only consume that content once and wouldn't recommend it you won't see a lot of horror being made right oh and I wasn't saying that it was bad it's incredible like that's yeah it's so it's so a different level whenever you are immersed in it rather than seeing it on that frame I love it like I can't play it but I love it but I have a question since we have to respect our users or audiences time you know the question I post to all of you and you guys is what is beyond VR augmented reality it's contact it's really hard to to let's start with John 10 second no 30 seconds okay eventually what we're going we're not going to have smartphones anymore we're going to have everything's going to be wearable contact lenses augmented reality instant information what what what time frame uh let's see 25 years by 2040 I would say by 2040 we're going to be seeing contacts in that is augmented reality vers reality in contact with constant information and intelligent I even think by then we'll have what is effectively uh telepathic typing if you you think it and it types I think that's where we're going that's a very very good question is it well I think do do you have an answer cuz I I no I think I can speak I think I could speak for me and RAV where while there while I understand there's a lot of value in thinking about what's the next big thing personally I'm just having a lot of fun enjoying where we are right now really you're not answering the question though I'm not because I because I don't have an answer to it because VR is in such an infancy that the next thing that comes after VR is better VR it is better VR is the perfected way of doing VR that but you know what that that that that still answers the question because look at how we do VR now yeah it's awkward it's awkward it's it's it's really odd and you know we look like we look like um that guy from that Star Trek movie that you know I had headsets in my house and I let my friend come over and we kind of partied it up and it just completely exploded to the point where they didn't want to communicate with any of the other people I had over my house for my party they were just so into it it eclipsed and you know overshadowed the like talking know and on that note VR is here it is and it's only going I know how to I know how to bring this home um bring home this is the number one thing that we learned at South by Southwest and it's that if you viewers are only really looking at virtual reality in the sense of oh movies oh gaming it's not there's so many more applications for it and I think that's what makes it the most exciting I know that for me as a as a filmmaker looking at the cinematography and just all of the logistics behind putting together what becomes the creative aspect is incredible but then we have applications for journalism applications for medical and applications for I'm help yeah oh thanks a lot yeah right there yeah education Sports all that V is here to stay it's going to keep growing it's it's in its infancy like I said but if you haven't been able to wrap your head around just what VR is able to do we were able to get a glimpse into that here it's sou by Southwest couldn't put it better myself the mediums with which are at our disposal are getting better all the time and I just want to say it right now uh if you want to VI our like cardboard Google carboard just leave a comment below or contact us uh on Android 30 and I I'll send you one I was going to say there might be a there might I just don't care there might be a chance to have like some sort of like want you to see it I need you to see it yeah there might be a chance to have like a Google cardboard with our logo on it and then you can order it do t-shirt or or anything you know just just give us a shout out I don't care well with that in mind love you guys the uh South by Southwest of course is the film and music and interactive festival and we were all the three of us rather and John di was able to come by as you can see uh John Dy wasn't able first time meeting us here at South by Southwest and he has we've all had a really good time honestly way too good South by Southwest may or may not become a regular thing but I know I want to come back every year at this point we'll find a way to make it work but yeah keep it tuned here and follow all of us on social media don't forget to head on over to Andro authority.com to see all of the work from John D orav myself and of course our co-founder over here Darcy lauve and you can head on over to our Instagram our Twitter and across all of the interwebs to find us and of course one of the best places to do so is at the main website on the Android authority app where you can also find our YouTube content from there what's up oh we got we got a new app too um we haven't officially launched it but it's we spent a year developing it and uh yeah we're really proud of it and it's got no ads so and super props to the dude who just video BM yeah well done man I didn't see if you guys can't tell already my voice is gone um and the recovery again has to H after mwc after this show and then Google IO coming bag too right yeah we're going to go get our bags right now so yeah so keep it tuned here guys because alog 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