The REAL Ultimate GPU Bottleneck? RTX 3070 with Mini PCIe (Pt. 2)

so i decided to do a video where i'd be installing an rtx 3070 graphics card in my all-in-one desktop computer because the igpu just wasn't cutting it anymore with the games that i wanted to play so like i've been researching for a bit and everything seemed good as long as i had the right adapter and stuff i mean i didn't want to mess around with any of the fancy settings on the motherboard or anything so i just went ahead and purchased this rtx 3070 adapter and it's literally working perfectly everything has just worked up until this point which is pretty unusual for one of my videos i don't know maybe it's because i wasn't the one that decided to buy this specific adapter that it's working uh but yeah so let's see what kind of gaming performance we get out of an rtx 3070 running through a single pci express lane now starting off with cs go um yeah we've got about 40 frames per second here going up and down a little bit now this is definitely using the external gpu because considering the settings that we're using here um it's all high settings and with just the igpu and the 3d 70 we were getting worse results with low settings on everything so yeah it's definitely using the external graphics card but we're averaging about 30 frames per second with an rtx 3070 in cs go that's really amazing you can see that the cpu is just at 12 utilization like there's not much going on in the system it's weird that the graphics card is pegged at 98 but i guess that that's just like all the bandwidth that's available for the graphics card so it's not necessarily that the core is running at a hundred percent now with all those settings we've jumped up quite a lot we're sitting about 83 to 90 frames per second but again bear in mind that's using an rtx 3070 now we've hopped into gta 5 with the same settings that i used for the igpu system just with one very big difference this is at 1080p as opposed to the 720p we had to drop it to for the 3770 to run it with its igpu and this is significantly more playable um but it's like the lowest settings for gta 5 at 1080p and we're averaging about what is that like 70 frames per second yo that graphics card is not doing anything but i mean that is a huge difference uh when it comes to the actual gaming performance here so now we're running battlefield 5 at 1080p medium settings um i mean there's quite a lot of input lag like it's you can feel that there's something weird going on here although considering the fact that this system is getting about 60 frames per second ish is pretty impressive and interestingly while playing battlefield 5 you can see here that the cpu utilization is significantly higher than it was with any of the other games so that's interesting it seems like this game is actually kind of evenly balancing the system despite that huge interface bottleneck that we have with the graphics card so with that let's do some quick comparative benchmarks to see how much of a difference the 3017 makes in this all-in-one's performance

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enfor today's video we're gonna bust an rtx 3070s kneecaps and then have a good giggle to ourselves basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna use a mini pcie which is like a slot that most systems use for a wi-fi card and then we're gonna adapt that into a pci express connector so that we can hook up an rtx 3070 to this all-in-one samsung pc which is going to be a very good deal for the samsung pc and a very bad deal for the rtx 3017 now the reason that this is such a huge bottleneck for the rtx 3070 is because mini pcie only has one pci express lane in it which is it's very little but before we get into that we have a sponsor for today's video today's video is sponsored by lenode which is a powerful and affordable linux based cloud computing service which is very easy to use lenode has a large marketplace with fully configured one-click apps for whatever use case you need linux based web servers for be it wordpress development and hosting or if you need a file sharing solution you can use file cloud community if you have a database application you can use phpmyadmin or mysql mariadb they also have a variety of game server hosting options for you scrubs out there and considering that we're currently mid skull apocalypse and physical hardware is very difficult to get your hands on if you have heavy compute applications lenode offers affordable options for that be it cpu intensive ram intensive or gpu intensive workloads and when it comes to gpu compute loads the node's not messing around they're using nvidia quadro rtx 6000 series gpus for the max horsepower possible if this sounds good to you sign up using the link in my description below for a 100 60 day credit for those of you that watched the first video where i upgraded this samsung all-in-one to try and get the most performance out of it you'll know that i made some mistakes trying to use that mini pcie slot to adapt a graphics card to it and i bought a new adapter that i thought was gonna work now luckily a member of the discord wrote a whole long explanation as to why my idea was terrible and it wasn't gonna work and going even further than that they suggested an idea that would work which i very quickly accepted i bought one of those adapters and this is what happened this adapter has some of the best promotional material on it i've ever seen new family beast series notebook performance promotion the creation infinite possibility unleash your power create infinite possibilities i mean i feel like if this cooler doesn't turn me into the next monarch of croatia i'm gonna be disappointed this adapter is actually really interesting so you can see down here it uses an hdmi out which then converts into the mini pcie beast connector over here now it's also got a port for supplemental power down here which is really important because graphics cards do draw up to 75 watts from the pci express connector right so this way uh it can actually supply that power and then you can see in there there's some more beast branding i was actually briefly concerned because this adapter doesn't have a clip at the front for that little little winglet on the pci express connector but as you can see here there's enough of an offset here so that it can actually snugly fit in there oh yeah just a quick note on the specific rtx 3070 that we're using it's that oem version that i got out of the dell xps prebuilt that we looked at a while ago so if you haven't seen that video go check it out i'll have it linked in the description below so let's hook this all up and see what kind of performance we get from this oem rtx 3070 into the all-in-one now the first concern is clearance because as you can see here this mini pcie port is very low in the motherboard and then there's this huge plastic hump here which is in the way but because it's a ribbon cable i'm hoping that we should be okay so slide that in there push it down and yes it does actually clear so we're good over here we have the final setup which does look a little bit janky but i mean that's kind of the point right so here we have the supplemental power going into the adapter so it uses this uh eight pin cpu power connector and then this 24 pin adapter i think just trips the power to switch on the power supply when that needs some juice and then here we have the hdmi which is coming from here into the adapter and then we're feeding the signal of the graphics card back into the actual all-in-one so it means that we're still going to be using the display on it which is really useful the fact that this has an hdmi in is awesome and it kind of makes this whole thing possible okay let's see what happens when we fire this up oh there we go okay the graphics card switched on and it switched on the power supply and stuff so that's good okay so let's see here because i think the source is on pc at the oh no okay oh it's on it's outputting via hdmi so this is actually the graphics card signal that we're getting here now it's not running at native resolution because well we're gonna have to install graphics drivers so give me a second to do that so all i've done so far is installed geforce experience and straight off the bat we've got the rtx 3070 showing up i haven't had to do anything uh so let's just install newer drivers on the system and then we're gonna see how it runs games with that 1x pcie lane at this point i'm still waiting for something to explode or just go wrong in some other fashion because like the driver is installed without a hitch everything has just worked up until this point which is pretty unusual for one of my videos i don't know maybe it's because i wasn't the one that decided to buy that specific adapter that it's working uh but yeah so let's see what kind of gaming performance we get out of an rtx 3070 running through a single pci express lane now starting off with cs go um yeah we've got about 40 frames per second here going up and down a little bit now this is definitely using the external gpu because considering the settings that we're using here um it's all high settings and with just the igpu and the 3d 70 we were getting worse results with low settings on everything so yeah it's definitely using the external graphics card but we're averaging about 30 frames per second with an rtx 3070 in in cs go that's really amazing you can see that the cpu is just at 12 utilization like there's not much going on in the system it's weird that the graphics card is pegged at 98 but i guess that that's just like all the bandwidth that's available for the graphics card so it's not necessarily that the core is running at a hundred percent now with all those settings we've jumped up quite a lot we're sitting about 83 83 to 90 90 frames per second but again bear in mind that that's using an rtx 3070. now we've hopped into gta 5 with the same settings that i used for the igpu system just with one very big difference this is at 1080p as opposed to the 720p we had to drop it to for the 3770 to run it with its igpu and this is significantly more playable um but it's like the lowest settings for gta 5 at 1080p and we're averaging about what is that like 70 frames per second yo that graphics card is not doing anything but i mean that is a huge difference uh when it comes to the actual gaming performance here so now we're running battlefield 5 at 1080p medium settings um i mean it's there's quite a lot of input lag like it's you can feel that there's something weird going on here although considering the fact that this system is getting about 60 frames per second ish is pretty impressive and interestingly while playing battlefield 5 you can see here that the cpu utilization is significantly higher than it was with any of the other games so that's interesting it seems like this game is actually kind of evenly balancing the system despite that huge interface bottleneck that we have with the graphics card so with that let's do some quick comparative benchmarks to see how much of a difference that 3017 makes in this all-in-one's performance so that was by far the easiest video process i've ever had there was some instructions in the manual of the adapter on how to actually troubleshoot it and stuff but i didn't need it i just plugged it in and it worked again it was probably because i wasn't the one that chose that adapter now the performance is significantly better than it was with just the eye gpu but obviously it was i mean you can fart in a bath and it would give you better gaming performance than that but obviously an rtx 370 is stupid overkill and it's a massive bottleneck for that graphics card like it it really wasn't doing much uh although with battlefield 5 that the system was pretty evenly taxed there so yeah if you did something like this with a lower power gpu like a gtx 1650 i think it would give you a considerable performance boost and get you some more life out of the system granted that some games are gonna have some input latency issues but you know it's not too bad it's it's better than i was expecting so with that thank you very much for watching this fairly uneventful video if you liked it like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one until the next video byefor today's video we're gonna bust an rtx 3070s kneecaps and then have a good giggle to ourselves basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna use a mini pcie which is like a slot that most systems use for a wi-fi card and then we're gonna adapt that into a pci express connector so that we can hook up an rtx 3070 to this all-in-one samsung pc which is going to be a very good deal for the samsung pc and a very bad deal for the rtx 3017 now the reason that this is such a huge bottleneck for the rtx 3070 is because mini pcie only has one pci express lane in it which is it's very little but before we get into that we have a sponsor for today's video today's video is sponsored by lenode which is a powerful and affordable linux based cloud computing service which is very easy to use lenode has a large marketplace with fully configured one-click apps for whatever use case you need linux based web servers for be it wordpress development and hosting or if you need a file sharing solution you can use file cloud community if you have a database application you can use phpmyadmin or mysql mariadb they also have a variety of game server hosting options for you scrubs out there and considering that we're currently mid skull apocalypse and physical hardware is very difficult to get your hands on if you have heavy compute applications lenode offers affordable options for that be it cpu intensive ram intensive or gpu intensive workloads and when it comes to gpu compute loads the node's not messing around they're using nvidia quadro rtx 6000 series gpus for the max horsepower possible if this sounds good to you sign up using the link in my description below for a 100 60 day credit for those of you that watched the first video where i upgraded this samsung all-in-one to try and get the most performance out of it you'll know that i made some mistakes trying to use that mini pcie slot to adapt a graphics card to it and i bought a new adapter that i thought was gonna work now luckily a member of the discord wrote a whole long explanation as to why my idea was terrible and it wasn't gonna work and going even further than that they suggested an idea that would work which i very quickly accepted i bought one of those adapters and this is what happened this adapter has some of the best promotional material on it i've ever seen new family beast series notebook performance promotion the creation infinite possibility unleash your power create infinite possibilities i mean i feel like if this cooler doesn't turn me into the next monarch of croatia i'm gonna be disappointed this adapter is actually really interesting so you can see down here it uses an hdmi out which then converts into the mini pcie beast connector over here now it's also got a port for supplemental power down here which is really important because graphics cards do draw up to 75 watts from the pci express connector right so this way uh it can actually supply that power and then you can see in there there's some more beast branding i was actually briefly concerned because this adapter doesn't have a clip at the front for that little little winglet on the pci express connector but as you can see here there's enough of an offset here so that it can actually snugly fit in there oh yeah just a quick note on the specific rtx 3070 that we're using it's that oem version that i got out of the dell xps prebuilt that we looked at a while ago so if you haven't seen that video go check it out i'll have it linked in the description below so let's hook this all up and see what kind of performance we get from this oem rtx 3070 into the all-in-one now the first concern is clearance because as you can see here this mini pcie port is very low in the motherboard and then there's this huge plastic hump here which is in the way but because it's a ribbon cable i'm hoping that we should be okay so slide that in there push it down and yes it does actually clear so we're good over here we have the final setup which does look a little bit janky but i mean that's kind of the point right so here we have the supplemental power going into the adapter so it uses this uh eight pin cpu power connector and then this 24 pin adapter i think just trips the power to switch on the power supply when that needs some juice and then here we have the hdmi which is coming from here into the adapter and then we're feeding the signal of the graphics card back into the actual all-in-one so it means that we're still going to be using the display on it which is really useful the fact that this has an hdmi in is awesome and it kind of makes this whole thing possible okay let's see what happens when we fire this up oh there we go okay the graphics card switched on and it switched on the power supply and stuff so that's good okay so let's see here because i think the source is on pc at the oh no okay oh it's on it's outputting via hdmi so this is actually the graphics card signal that we're getting here now it's not running at native resolution because well we're gonna have to install graphics drivers so give me a second to do that so all i've done so far is installed geforce experience and straight off the bat we've got the rtx 3070 showing up i haven't had to do anything uh so let's just install newer drivers on the system and then we're gonna see how it runs games with that 1x pcie lane at this point i'm still waiting for something to explode or just go wrong in some other fashion because like the driver is installed without a hitch everything has just worked up until this point which is pretty unusual for one of my videos i don't know maybe it's because i wasn't the one that decided to buy that specific adapter that it's working uh but yeah so let's see what kind of gaming performance we get out of an rtx 3070 running through a single pci express lane now starting off with cs go um yeah we've got about 40 frames per second here going up and down a little bit now this is definitely using the external gpu because considering the settings that we're using here um it's all high settings and with just the igpu and the 3d 70 we were getting worse results with low settings on everything so yeah it's definitely using the external graphics card but we're averaging about 30 frames per second with an rtx 3070 in in cs go that's really amazing you can see that the cpu is just at 12 utilization like there's not much going on in the system it's weird that the graphics card is pegged at 98 but i guess that that's just like all the bandwidth that's available for the graphics card so it's not necessarily that the core is running at a hundred percent now with all those settings we've jumped up quite a lot we're sitting about 83 83 to 90 90 frames per second but again bear in mind that that's using an rtx 3070. now we've hopped into gta 5 with the same settings that i used for the igpu system just with one very big difference this is at 1080p as opposed to the 720p we had to drop it to for the 3770 to run it with its igpu and this is significantly more playable um but it's like the lowest settings for gta 5 at 1080p and we're averaging about what is that like 70 frames per second yo that graphics card is not doing anything but i mean that is a huge difference uh when it comes to the actual gaming performance here so now we're running battlefield 5 at 1080p medium settings um i mean it's there's quite a lot of input lag like it's you can feel that there's something weird going on here although considering the fact that this system is getting about 60 frames per second ish is pretty impressive and interestingly while playing battlefield 5 you can see here that the cpu utilization is significantly higher than it was with any of the other games so that's interesting it seems like this game is actually kind of evenly balancing the system despite that huge interface bottleneck that we have with the graphics card so with that let's do some quick comparative benchmarks to see how much of a difference that 3017 makes in this all-in-one's performance so that was by far the easiest video process i've ever had there was some instructions in the manual of the adapter on how to actually troubleshoot it and stuff but i didn't need it i just plugged it in and it worked again it was probably because i wasn't the one that chose that adapter now the performance is significantly better than it was with just the eye gpu but obviously it was i mean you can fart in a bath and it would give you better gaming performance than that but obviously an rtx 370 is stupid overkill and it's a massive bottleneck for that graphics card like it it really wasn't doing much uh although with battlefield 5 that the system was pretty evenly taxed there so yeah if you did something like this with a lower power gpu like a gtx 1650 i think it would give you a considerable performance boost and get you some more life out of the system granted that some games are gonna have some input latency issues but you know it's not too bad it's it's better than i was expecting so with that thank you very much for watching this fairly uneventful video if you liked it like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one until the next video bye