**Exploring the Physics behind CPU Coolers: A Hands-on Experiment**

As we continue to push the boundaries of CPU performance, it's essential to understand the intricacies of cooling systems. In this article, we'll delve into the world of CPU coolers and explore the physics behind them through a hands-on experiment.

**Initial Observations**

I started by examining the AMD CPU cooler, which was initially set to 63°C. To my surprise, it began to fluctuate wildly, with temperatures ranging from 61°C to 80°C within a short period. This erratic behavior led me to wonder what would happen if I simply continued to monitor its performance.

**The Power of Air Flow**

As I watched the cooler in action, I noticed that the air flow was surprisingly intense. The fan created a vortex of air that seemed to suck everything around it in, including the paper beneath it. This phenomenon was both fascinating and unsettling, as I felt the air pressure changes with each rotation.

**Temperature Management**

To better understand the behavior of the cooler, I began to focus on temperature management. When the CPU reached 63°C, the cooler would maintain a stable temperature for a short period before dropping to 4.14°C. However, when it hit 90°C, the temperature quickly stabilized at around 4.28°C.

**The Role of Fan Speed**

Now that we've discussed the temperature management aspect, let's talk about fan speed. The RGB LED on my system began to slow down, signaling a potential issue with the fan's performance. I decided to take it offline for further testing and examined its specifications.

**A Larger Hammer: Introducing the Delta Fan**

When the initial cooling solution didn't yield satisfactory results, I turned to more extreme measures. I replaced the standard cooler with a 3,000 RPM delta fan, which was designed to pull in massive amounts of air. The result was nothing short of astonishing – temperatures plummeted to 4.09°C within seconds.

**A Cooler Solution**

As we discussed earlier, this powerful fan created an enormous amount of airflow that cooled the VRMs and surrounding components more efficiently than ever before. I realized that this approach was both effective and visually appealing, thanks to the addition of a grill guard to prevent power supply air leaks.

**Theoretical Physics Behind CPU Coolers**

When we examine the effectiveness of these cooling solutions, it becomes clear that the physics behind them plays a significant role in their performance. The principles of thermodynamics dictate how heat transfer occurs between the CPU and the surrounding environment. By manipulating airflow patterns and fan speeds, we can significantly improve cooling efficiency.

**3D Printing for Experimental Purposes**

In addition to exploring different cooling solutions, I've been experimenting with 3D printing. Currently, my focus is on designing custom components that will enhance my system's performance in various scenarios. A few ideas have surfaced, including a "Fran shoud" – an object designed to provide additional airflow without taking up much space.

**Future Video Plans**

In our upcoming video, we'll be discussing the issues with 12th-gen CPUs and their everyday applications. Due to personal circumstances, I've been delaying my upgrade process and instead focusing on creating content for our audience. We're excited to share this new project with you and explore some innovative ideas for our next build.

**Conclusion**

Through this experiment, we gained a deeper understanding of the intricate relationships between CPU coolers, air flow, and temperature management. By experimenting with different solutions and exploring the theoretical physics behind cooling systems, we can create more efficient and effective cooling solutions that enhance performance and reduce temperatures.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enall right guys it's time to do an experiment here I showed you all the 3D printers and whatnot that we got uh my moderator Jetman came and spent an entire day here getting our Ender five working and the L bot all nice and tuned so I wanted to do a little bit of experiment here I found on thingiverse this model and I I'll link it down below if you guys have 3D printers where you can make an adapter to go onto like a standard AMD wraith cooler and adapt it to either 120 or 140 mm fan so I figured why not stress test the hell out of the stock cooler with a 5900 X doing cinebench on a repeated loop with PBO enabled which means more voltage more amps more clock speed and then we throw that adapter on there and see whether or not you need to buy a big old cooler or maybe just toss someone five bucks to print one of these for you corsair's new 32-in Z neon 1440p gaming monitor has the features you need to play your best features like silky smooth 165 HZ refresh rate IPS display with 1 millisecond mprt response time Quantum do technology hdr400 and built-in mount for either a microphone webcam or even a DSLR to see the complete list of features of the Corsair xon 32in gaming monitor follow the link in the description below so this cooler look the reason why you don't get box coolers with the 5900 X and A 5950 is because those are the highest core density highest power draw uh CPUs that AMD currently makes before AMD or am5 stuff comes out and realistically to get their B their full full potential unlocked you need an aftermarket cooler whether that be something with Vapor Chambers or heat pipes water cooler AO whatever the the chunk of aluminum these are just chunks of aluminum here in fact I have a small one that's half the height of that I can show you give me one sec here we go ah yeah realistically I should have used this if I really wanted to test it cuz this obviously has I guess I don't know if it's linear but this would be like half the amount of thermal mass as this because it's half the height but anyway you see it's just a chunk of aluminum right you can see where the CPU is some of the higher-end ones that used to come on the older ryzen CPUs actually had a little disc of copper in here but I don't know why they switched to just straight aluminum chunks instead of copper maybe there was a transfer issue between the copper and the aluminum I don't know but you can see it's mostly just fins so you got this fan that two CPU fan header blows down air comes out and it cools the components around it too which is kind of nice whereas just the standard tow blows air through it but there's no cooling around the motherboard so I do like downfire fans like that the problem is this 92mm fan and the fact that you get a lot of Splash too around the edges it's not sealed off in any way just their efficiency is only good enough for lower-end CPUs so like a 5600x hell even like a 5800 X maybe 5800 X 3D maybe even might be fine with this taller cooler with the fan curve kind of maxed out now right now we do have this fan running full speed as you can hear right there is it sounds like a table saw see if I make it sound like a table saw sound like okay anyway so we're going to run cinam this is R20 not the newest R23 that's fine uh we don't care about what test we're running as long as one it's difficult and two I'm not tripping over my lights and two that it runs repeatedly and then we do AB testing with the exact same piece of software now with Precision boost overdrive on the limit on the CPU is 90c um we didn't touch that that is still 90c I could raise that in the Bios I'm not going to uh it does increase the clock speed by 200 MHz we have 500 watts worth of PPT we'll never get anywhere near that that's just how much wattage the CPU is allowed to draw theoretically this is unlimited effectively unlocked potential you keep it cool enough it will give all the power that you need so let's go ahead and start the test here and it's going to Loop and let's just see what our initial clock speeds hard are to compare 4.5 4.4 75 GHz it's going to slowly come down cuz as that temp comes up it's going to come down cuz it is a curve the efficiency of ryzen versus Intel even with the newest Intel stuff is still just it's kind of embarrassing for Intel if you want to know the truth cuz Intel is pulling if we do any sort of overclock on a uh 12th gen CPU it hits 250 Watts so right now we hit 90c and and it's funny 90c when it's orange tells us like hey you're right on the edge when it goes red that means it's effectively throttling there we go see that's going back and forth It's effectively throttling to maintain that 90c does that mean we're dropping clocks hard no that just means it's dynamically adjusting the clock speed at that point in any other metrics it need whether it be it's power or wattage so it's controlling its temperature by dropping clock speed which means wattage drop which means a voltage drop to keep things under control I'm pretty impressed so far though honestly at how good this cooler is it's getting toasty already I do have and I forgot to mention this wow that's really hot at the bottom okay anyway um I am using kpx or ke pin cooling extreme thermal compound on this and I will be doing that obviously on the retest as well and the I didn't paint or you know spread the paste on I just did this basic x pattern that I do on ryzen CPUs so I'm keeping that obviously as a constant as well so that's obvious obviously going to have a big play on you know how good the cooler is going to do is that's kind of like the last transfer defense there right between the Heat spreader and the cooler it's up to the cooler to do the rest but we've dropped from 4.5 down to 4.06 right now so as you can see we've lost nearly 500 MHz or about 400 MHz 425 MHz cuz I think 4475 is where it maxed out average core voltage right now is 1.24 1.208 so as you can see not a lot of voltage at at all going into this in fact I could probably undervolt that more if I wanted but there's no point the voltage is already pretty uh pretty low on this if we had seen like 1354 obviously we would want to be dropping uh voltage but this is one of the metrics it's doing to drop 1.19 to keep the temperatures under control so I think I'm going to let this go now for about 5 more minutes and see I mean we've pretty much hard limited here my question is once we have reached full full thermal capacity of this cooler it is Toasty like if I feel the heat fill you know it's hot uh anyway I want to see what the full thermal capacity of this cooler is and what our clock speeds will drop down to then when our print is done which is going to take another 3 hours uh we'll plop that adapter on and we'll put like a nice 120 on there maybe something with a little RGB you know a little flare on there and then we'll see exactly uh if the fan itself is a limiting factor here I I'm going to admit I'm really impressed it didn't drop below 4 GHz all core remember this is a 5900 X this thing has got what 24 threads 12 core 24 thread right 1 2 3 4 5 6 yeah 12 cores 24 threads I guess I could have put a 5950 on here really pushed it but no this is fine will we still hit 90c and if we do will we somehow maintain a higher clock speed because of the fact that it can keep your keep it closer to that 90c without having to drop the perimeters as much so so let's go take a look at the print its progress and then we'll show you when it's done we actually have it printing on two printers that way we have twice the chance of success so here it is on the L spot right here uh this is being uh printed with a 2.85 mm pla filament and then we have the Ender five over here which is we spent well like I said jman spent a ton my the guy I built the computer for uh from a moderator him he's he works in the 3D printing industry so he knows what he's doing here anyway we've got this one going this is a faster printer at finer filament at 1.75 so this one goes slower because it really has to smoosh the 2.85 down into a 0.5 nozzle whereas this is 1.75 into a point4 so less squish I'm curious as if this one will catch and surpass this one this is what the duct looks like here so these four screws actually Mount into the uh the top of the wraith and they have a little pass through hole and you use the same wreath screws to hold it down then you got the 120 you could do a 140 with this also if you wanted but uh I wanted to go 120 cuz I wanted the higher velocity higher RPM fans that push more air rather than just overall CFM so the ls bot one didn't turn out very good uh the support material actually broke off from the bed and then was just getting in like all smooshed into the sides so that's why we had the Ender going because look check it out now I didn't lose that was like 2 hours worth of print before I noticed that was happening now we need to do is take off these four screws holding on this fan screw that down into there and then I was concerned that this wasn't going to fit with the graphics card there but it actually does so and then we're going to use the VR um fan just a basic 120 mm fan it's got some RGB on there I don't expect there to be any sort of like major Improvement but you know that's why I and that's why I'm really looking forward to doing more of these types of projects congratulations AMD cooler you've graduated to a better cooler he a little tassel I know and then flip it to the other side so there we go since this is technically the first thing I printed that we're actually putting into use right now in a system that makes this shroud approximately $350 it's okay we're going to be printing more things obviously so I need to get this on here and as you can see it will fit and then test it I'm excited even if there's no change it looks cooler okay just another reason to really enjoy I fix it cuz the little bendy head thing is actually coming in handy here so if you don't have your eye fix it yet the are you waiting for so remember we are stepping down through kind of like a velocity stack sort of deal where it's tapering which means the pressure is increasing and it's got to push down through these fins and what I'm noticing is there's a crap ton of air coming back out watch let me demonstrate dude that is so weird like I can feel the air on the bottom of my palm going that way but yet the paper is getting sucked in so okay it's working it's just weird that I can feel the air coming around so it's currently at 63c when we just sort of chilling not doing anything this the temperatures are high in AMD a lot of people freak out about amds like high temps when you first Boot and and not really doing anything um it's important to remember that that is absolutely normal behavior so all right let's see what happens now with the CPU 81 82 holy cow it can keep it under control for a minute anyway will it hit 90 Sam it hit 90 before the first test was over last time look look at the maintaining clock right there oh it's almost a 90 there's 90 I guess we'll just have to see where the uh frequencies tend to drop why did the RGB stop RGB MSI quit msing please for the love of God once in your life build a product there you go thank you it'll do one and it'll it'll turn off for a while okay well it still looks neat um 90c already dropped down to 4.14 4.13 4.12 so I mean it's going to more than likely bottom out exactly where it did before and we'll go ahead and let it do that and then I have one more trick I have one more last ditch effort to see if I oh yeah there it goes it was at 4.09 right there which means it's absolutely going to hit the limit again there it is 4.06 4.05 so we have uh zero Improvement other than the fact that it looks a little nicer so here's what I have in mind you know when the hammer doesn't get the job done you just get a bigger Hammer so this is that Delta fan that 3,000 RPM pulls like two amps by itself fan I have the grill guard on there because this can happen oh a power supply I mean it's not the quietest solution dud I could feel so much air splashing out the bottom so now it's cooling the vrms and everything around it like better too what is our initial atts last time it was like 61 44 40 38 see when you've saturated you just add more saturate remember last time it shot at 80° immediately 78 79 80 that's going to suck if this gives us the same result only because of the fact that that's going to mean that quite literally the chunk of aluminum itself is not able to transfer the heat enough fast enough however we are we are staying lower than we were but we're going to hit 90 that actually sheds a lot of light on the physics behind a CPU Cooler and why the kind of cooler matters cuz if we did this same test with this particular fan on like the heat pipe cooler or something with like a heat heat th array uh we would see if we just hit 90 we would see pretty linear results with air flow uh to a to a degree yeah there's 90 it's still at 4.28 3 while it's at 90 though but it's obviously going to slowly drop cuz that's why it's red not Orange it's holding longer but that's only because we are quite literally shoving an atmosphere worth of air into it like every few seconds that's not real science terms I just made that up it's still staying higher look it's not at 4.06 like it was it's still at 4.28 so it's holding it like right on the cusp of 90 just a fun little experiment I wanted to kind of do I was thinking about doing while I was on vacation and uh there we go I 3D printed a Fran shoud that quite literally has no use Beyond this video but we're printing other things and this is where I want you guys to kind of chime in and let us know what you think we should 3D print to use in these types of videos I want to incorporate some 3D printed type stuff in my personal build which I know is taking forever trust me but I have a video video coming out where I'm going to talk about the troubles with 12th gen and everyday use which has kind of made me not be super excited and in a hurry to replace my 10th gen at home with this thing stay tuned for that subscribe if you're not cuz then you know you'll be on a list that YouTube won't send notifications to anyway but it would still make us feel better to see the number go up and you know I mean if we feel good around here we make better videos theoretically subscribe to find out if that's trueall right guys it's time to do an experiment here I showed you all the 3D printers and whatnot that we got uh my moderator Jetman came and spent an entire day here getting our Ender five working and the L bot all nice and tuned so I wanted to do a little bit of experiment here I found on thingiverse this model and I I'll link it down below if you guys have 3D printers where you can make an adapter to go onto like a standard AMD wraith cooler and adapt it to either 120 or 140 mm fan so I figured why not stress test the hell out of the stock cooler with a 5900 X doing cinebench on a repeated loop with PBO enabled which means more voltage more amps more clock speed and then we throw that adapter on there and see whether or not you need to buy a big old cooler or maybe just toss someone five bucks to print one of these for you corsair's new 32-in Z neon 1440p gaming monitor has the features you need to play your best features like silky smooth 165 HZ refresh rate IPS display with 1 millisecond mprt response time Quantum do technology hdr400 and built-in mount for either a microphone webcam or even a DSLR to see the complete list of features of the Corsair xon 32in gaming monitor follow the link in the description below so this cooler look the reason why you don't get box coolers with the 5900 X and A 5950 is because those are the highest core density highest power draw uh CPUs that AMD currently makes before AMD or am5 stuff comes out and realistically to get their B their full full potential unlocked you need an aftermarket cooler whether that be something with Vapor Chambers or heat pipes water cooler AO whatever the the chunk of aluminum these are just chunks of aluminum here in fact I have a small one that's half the height of that I can show you give me one sec here we go ah yeah realistically I should have used this if I really wanted to test it cuz this obviously has I guess I don't know if it's linear but this would be like half the amount of thermal mass as this because it's half the height but anyway you see it's just a chunk of aluminum right you can see where the CPU is some of the higher-end ones that used to come on the older ryzen CPUs actually had a little disc of copper in here but I don't know why they switched to just straight aluminum chunks instead of copper maybe there was a transfer issue between the copper and the aluminum I don't know but you can see it's mostly just fins so you got this fan that two CPU fan header blows down air comes out and it cools the components around it too which is kind of nice whereas just the standard tow blows air through it but there's no cooling around the motherboard so I do like downfire fans like that the problem is this 92mm fan and the fact that you get a lot of Splash too around the edges it's not sealed off in any way just their efficiency is only good enough for lower-end CPUs so like a 5600x hell even like a 5800 X maybe 5800 X 3D maybe even might be fine with this taller cooler with the fan curve kind of maxed out now right now we do have this fan running full speed as you can hear right there is it sounds like a table saw see if I make it sound like a table saw sound like okay anyway so we're going to run cinam this is R20 not the newest R23 that's fine uh we don't care about what test we're running as long as one it's difficult and two I'm not tripping over my lights and two that it runs repeatedly and then we do AB testing with the exact same piece of software now with Precision boost overdrive on the limit on the CPU is 90c um we didn't touch that that is still 90c I could raise that in the Bios I'm not going to uh it does increase the clock speed by 200 MHz we have 500 watts worth of PPT we'll never get anywhere near that that's just how much wattage the CPU is allowed to draw theoretically this is unlimited effectively unlocked potential you keep it cool enough it will give all the power that you need so let's go ahead and start the test here and it's going to Loop and let's just see what our initial clock speeds hard are to compare 4.5 4.4 75 GHz it's going to slowly come down cuz as that temp comes up it's going to come down cuz it is a curve the efficiency of ryzen versus Intel even with the newest Intel stuff is still just it's kind of embarrassing for Intel if you want to know the truth cuz Intel is pulling if we do any sort of overclock on a uh 12th gen CPU it hits 250 Watts so right now we hit 90c and and it's funny 90c when it's orange tells us like hey you're right on the edge when it goes red that means it's effectively throttling there we go see that's going back and forth It's effectively throttling to maintain that 90c does that mean we're dropping clocks hard no that just means it's dynamically adjusting the clock speed at that point in any other metrics it need whether it be it's power or wattage so it's controlling its temperature by dropping clock speed which means wattage drop which means a voltage drop to keep things under control I'm pretty impressed so far though honestly at how good this cooler is it's getting toasty already I do have and I forgot to mention this wow that's really hot at the bottom okay anyway um I am using kpx or ke pin cooling extreme thermal compound on this and I will be doing that obviously on the retest as well and the I didn't paint or you know spread the paste on I just did this basic x pattern that I do on ryzen CPUs so I'm keeping that obviously as a constant as well so that's obvious obviously going to have a big play on you know how good the cooler is going to do is that's kind of like the last transfer defense there right between the Heat spreader and the cooler it's up to the cooler to do the rest but we've dropped from 4.5 down to 4.06 right now so as you can see we've lost nearly 500 MHz or about 400 MHz 425 MHz cuz I think 4475 is where it maxed out average core voltage right now is 1.24 1.208 so as you can see not a lot of voltage at at all going into this in fact I could probably undervolt that more if I wanted but there's no point the voltage is already pretty uh pretty low on this if we had seen like 1354 obviously we would want to be dropping uh voltage but this is one of the metrics it's doing to drop 1.19 to keep the temperatures under control so I think I'm going to let this go now for about 5 more minutes and see I mean we've pretty much hard limited here my question is once we have reached full full thermal capacity of this cooler it is Toasty like if I feel the heat fill you know it's hot uh anyway I want to see what the full thermal capacity of this cooler is and what our clock speeds will drop down to then when our print is done which is going to take another 3 hours uh we'll plop that adapter on and we'll put like a nice 120 on there maybe something with a little RGB you know a little flare on there and then we'll see exactly uh if the fan itself is a limiting factor here I I'm going to admit I'm really impressed it didn't drop below 4 GHz all core remember this is a 5900 X this thing has got what 24 threads 12 core 24 thread right 1 2 3 4 5 6 yeah 12 cores 24 threads I guess I could have put a 5950 on here really pushed it but no this is fine will we still hit 90c and if we do will we somehow maintain a higher clock speed because of the fact that it can keep your keep it closer to that 90c without having to drop the perimeters as much so so let's go take a look at the print its progress and then we'll show you when it's done we actually have it printing on two printers that way we have twice the chance of success so here it is on the L spot right here uh this is being uh printed with a 2.85 mm pla filament and then we have the Ender five over here which is we spent well like I said jman spent a ton my the guy I built the computer for uh from a moderator him he's he works in the 3D printing industry so he knows what he's doing here anyway we've got this one going this is a faster printer at finer filament at 1.75 so this one goes slower because it really has to smoosh the 2.85 down into a 0.5 nozzle whereas this is 1.75 into a point4 so less squish I'm curious as if this one will catch and surpass this one this is what the duct looks like here so these four screws actually Mount into the uh the top of the wraith and they have a little pass through hole and you use the same wreath screws to hold it down then you got the 120 you could do a 140 with this also if you wanted but uh I wanted to go 120 cuz I wanted the higher velocity higher RPM fans that push more air rather than just overall CFM so the ls bot one didn't turn out very good uh the support material actually broke off from the bed and then was just getting in like all smooshed into the sides so that's why we had the Ender going because look check it out now I didn't lose that was like 2 hours worth of print before I noticed that was happening now we need to do is take off these four screws holding on this fan screw that down into there and then I was concerned that this wasn't going to fit with the graphics card there but it actually does so and then we're going to use the VR um fan just a basic 120 mm fan it's got some RGB on there I don't expect there to be any sort of like major Improvement but you know that's why I and that's why I'm really looking forward to doing more of these types of projects congratulations AMD cooler you've graduated to a better cooler he a little tassel I know and then flip it to the other side so there we go since this is technically the first thing I printed that we're actually putting into use right now in a system that makes this shroud approximately $350 it's okay we're going to be printing more things obviously so I need to get this on here and as you can see it will fit and then test it I'm excited even if there's no change it looks cooler okay just another reason to really enjoy I fix it cuz the little bendy head thing is actually coming in handy here so if you don't have your eye fix it yet the are you waiting for so remember we are stepping down through kind of like a velocity stack sort of deal where it's tapering which means the pressure is increasing and it's got to push down through these fins and what I'm noticing is there's a crap ton of air coming back out watch let me demonstrate dude that is so weird like I can feel the air on the bottom of my palm going that way but yet the paper is getting sucked in so okay it's working it's just weird that I can feel the air coming around so it's currently at 63c when we just sort of chilling not doing anything this the temperatures are high in AMD a lot of people freak out about amds like high temps when you first Boot and and not really doing anything um it's important to remember that that is absolutely normal behavior so all right let's see what happens now with the CPU 81 82 holy cow it can keep it under control for a minute anyway will it hit 90 Sam it hit 90 before the first test was over last time look look at the maintaining clock right there oh it's almost a 90 there's 90 I guess we'll just have to see where the uh frequencies tend to drop why did the RGB stop RGB MSI quit msing please for the love of God once in your life build a product there you go thank you it'll do one and it'll it'll turn off for a while okay well it still looks neat um 90c already dropped down to 4.14 4.13 4.12 so I mean it's going to more than likely bottom out exactly where it did before and we'll go ahead and let it do that and then I have one more trick I have one more last ditch effort to see if I oh yeah there it goes it was at 4.09 right there which means it's absolutely going to hit the limit again there it is 4.06 4.05 so we have uh zero Improvement other than the fact that it looks a little nicer so here's what I have in mind you know when the hammer doesn't get the job done you just get a bigger Hammer so this is that Delta fan that 3,000 RPM pulls like two amps by itself fan I have the grill guard on there because this can happen oh a power supply I mean it's not the quietest solution dud I could feel so much air splashing out the bottom so now it's cooling the vrms and everything around it like better too what is our initial atts last time it was like 61 44 40 38 see when you've saturated you just add more saturate remember last time it shot at 80° immediately 78 79 80 that's going to suck if this gives us the same result only because of the fact that that's going to mean that quite literally the chunk of aluminum itself is not able to transfer the heat enough fast enough however we are we are staying lower than we were but we're going to hit 90 that actually sheds a lot of light on the physics behind a CPU Cooler and why the kind of cooler matters cuz if we did this same test with this particular fan on like the heat pipe cooler or something with like a heat heat th array uh we would see if we just hit 90 we would see pretty linear results with air flow uh to a to a degree yeah there's 90 it's still at 4.28 3 while it's at 90 though but it's obviously going to slowly drop cuz that's why it's red not Orange it's holding longer but that's only because we are quite literally shoving an atmosphere worth of air into it like every few seconds that's not real science terms I just made that up it's still staying higher look it's not at 4.06 like it was it's still at 4.28 so it's holding it like right on the cusp of 90 just a fun little experiment I wanted to kind of do I was thinking about doing while I was on vacation and uh there we go I 3D printed a Fran shoud that quite literally has no use Beyond this video but we're printing other things and this is where I want you guys to kind of chime in and let us know what you think we should 3D print to use in these types of videos I want to incorporate some 3D printed type stuff in my personal build which I know is taking forever trust me but I have a video video coming out where I'm going to talk about the troubles with 12th gen and everyday use which has kind of made me not be super excited and in a hurry to replace my 10th gen at home with this thing stay tuned for that subscribe if you're not cuz then you know you'll be on a list that YouTube won't send notifications to anyway but it would still make us feel better to see the number go up and you know I mean if we feel good around here we make better videos theoretically subscribe to find out if that's true\n"