Cinebench Performance Comparison

Starting off with cinebench, it's something that I've been saying for a while now: provided there's enough cooling, driving more wattage to any piece of silicon will increase performance. That's why the Lenovo Yoga with the 4800u is a bit faster than the Zenbook 13 with a newer 5800u. We also can't forget that the Lenovo is heavier, thicker, and louder than the Zenbook 13. So, it's not like the additional performance is completely free, but lightly threaded applications are where Ryzen 3 shines, and that's exactly what happened here - actually seeing it beat Tiger Lake in a test where Intel used to dominate is really amazing.

Moving on to more of AMD's strengths with multi-core applications and I think the 5800u's domination over anything Tiger Lake was pretty much a foregone conclusion. But, and this is a big deal guys, you can see that the Yoga's ability to pump out higher clock speeds and sustain them over longer periods of time allows it to pull far ahead of the Zenbook 13 here at the same time I really have to wonder what would happen if the 1500u was allowed to run at a constant 30 watts. Now, that's something that I'm really interested to see.

While it's great to see these multi-core results, let's be honest for a sec - most thin and light laptops like this one will spend most of their lives being used for more basic lightly threaded tasks like word processing, spreadsheets, and school assignments. And here the Zen 3 architecture can really start to stretch its legs, especially over the Zen 2 CPUs. Yes, even something like the Yoga is getting its butt handed to it.

Another good bit of news is that AMD is now able to compete directly against some of the best CPUs from the Tiger Lake series in the past - just wasn't possible before. But now we're seeing a super-efficient low-voltage 20-watt Ryzen CPU knocking down one of the last areas Intel had a lead in.

However, you also need to take into account that GPU-accelerated apps like Premiere will probably start favoring Intel's newest processors for now. That's because even the 5800u still uses AMD's ancient Vega architecture which just struggles against the Xe integrated into Tiger Lake.

Speaking of graphics, what you're starting to see here with Premiere continues with the 5800u where it really ends up struggling against the Xe. In fact, it really doesn't score all that much better than the Zenbook 14 and the Yoga Ideapad Slim 7. Even though both of those are using last year's architecture.

I know you probably don't expect your super-slim and light laptop to play games that well, but with more people looking forward to multi-function devices and gaming getting really popular these days - this is going to be a big deal now and in the future as well. The only thing that's in AMD's favor here is that their drivers are a bit better behaved, and you can see that with Rainbow Six which just refuses to run on any Intel machines.

Improvements of Zen3 Architecture

The improvements of Zen3 architecture can really be seen with single-core performance - where Intel had a lead until now. There's just no competition for the 5800u in the performance sector unless if you look at the graphics side of things where it just starts to fall apart.

Zenbook 13 OLED Review

The Zenbook 13 OLED is actually really impressive for a thousand dollars - the display is just beautiful, I mean OLED for this price point is awesome. The trackpad is nice, and the battery life is insane. The ports they are respectable except for the fact that it doesn't come with a headphone jack - I'm really disappointed with that.

The build quality is all right, I mean it's nothing - it's not a huge improvement compared to last year's model; it's basically the same. But I should also mention that the lack of Thunderbolt could be a deal-breaker for a lot of people who rely on connecting a million peripherals to their thin and light devices for their particular workflow.

Availability is another question we'll just have to wait and see until Q4, so on that note - thank you so much for watching. I hope you were able to take away everything that you needed to know about the Zenbook 13 OLED. Let me know what you guys think about the 5800u - are you impressed? And if you're shopping for a thin and light laptop, will this be on your list of top choices? If you can find one of course - I'm here with Hardware Canucks. Thank you so much for watching guys, and uh yeah, stay safe, spend responsibly, and I'll see you in the next one.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enearlier this year at ces amd announced their ryzen 5008 series of processors for gaming laptops which as we all know brings some rock solid performance to the table but they also announced the 5000 u-series catered towards thin and light devices and that was really exciting because it embraces the zen 3 architecture keep in mind that not all u-series were zen 3 there was a mix of zen 2 as well anyways ever since that announcement things have been pretty quiet there was no word from amd or audio manufacturers in terms of product announcements and availability until now when this thing showed up at the studio this is the zenbook 13 oled from asus and it packs the fastest users processor that you can find on the market to date and a beautiful oled display along with some other great perks so let's dive into this powerhouse examine the hardware briefly and discuss performance spoiler alert this thing is insane show off the cool build and not the cables with the new corsair 5000 series welcome the all-new interior you'll appreciate for whatever build you desire without any hassle of cable management and appropriate cooling all around with proper dust filtration on all three models check it out below now before i get to the specs of the zenbook 13 i think it's important to do a quick refresh of the 5000 new series i mean look the fact that it's been almost six months since amd's announcement and they're only now slowly being able to roll out these chips and buy slow i mean really slowly really goes to show how tight the supply really is anyways the reason why this needs to be brought up is because the 5000 u-series chips you'll see in these things are broken into two categories uh the ryzen 7 5800u which has eight cores and 16 threads along with the six core 12 thread ryzen 5 5600u are the only ones with the new zen 3 architecture meanwhile the 5700u 5500u and the 5300u get the old zen 2 cores but with some enhancements for better overall performance that means very good multi-core scaling from one generation to another regardless of which 5000 series processor you get but the zen 2 parts don't get all the enhancements that allows the newest generation to be damn impressive in lightly threaded tasks considering a lot of thin light laptops like the zenbook won't typically be used for ultra heavy workloads looking towards the updated architecture could be a better idea but like i said worldwide supply of microchips has been pretty limited for last year and adding some refreshed zen2 chips into the mix is allowing amd and some of their partners to roll out at least some new laptops right now and that's exactly what asus is doing with the zenbook 13 here in many regions you can buy the 5700u and the 5500u versions or at least put in a pre-order but the 5800u and the 5600u are pretty much impossible to find but that doesn't mean the situation's going to last forever since some retailers already have it listed i know some folks have mentioned availability in may or june of this year but according to what we've been hearing that isn't going to be the case guys supposedly most zen 3 based thin and light laptops are actually being pushed back to after september sometime and that's really bad news especially if you've been waiting for one of these so with that out of the way let's get into what this generation of amd zenbooks is going to be rocking in terms of specs and prices so this laptop actually starts at eight hundred dollars and for that you get a ryzen five 5500 eu cpu with six cores and twelve threads you also get eight gigabytes of ram half a terabyte of storage and a 1080p oled display for an extra hundred dollars that'll bump the cpu to a ryzen 7 5700u with 8 cores and 16 threads our sample comes with the new zen 3 5800u with 16 gigabytes of ram and a terabyte of storage now in terms of pricing uh i'm thinking that it's going to be a thousand dollars even though that it's not confirmed but that's what we've been hearing so that if that's true that's pretty amazing now from the outside this laptop looks a lot like the zenbook 14 that we looked at last year featuring the 4700u processor the chassis is mostly made out of plastic materials and the lid features this spun metal finish that can easily pick up fingerprints oddly on my sample i noticed something rattling inside it could be a piece of plastic somewhere in there but keep in mind that i have a pre-production sample so that could be it the hinge is okay it's pretty smooth and you can open the lid with one hand but it does exhibit a lot of wobbling and that can be discomforting for some people who type with laptops on their laps and look this is not going to compete with the premium unibody aluminum constructions that we're used to seeing on expensive ultrabooks i mean for the price asus did their best but if i'm being too picky ever since i looked at the ideapad slim sun from lenovo i feel like asus could have taken a page from their books in terms of overall aesthetics and just the robustness because i feel like that laptop i feel like that's still a gem as for size it's slightly bigger than the xps 13 but it's about the same size as the razer book 13 and it's pretty thin coming in at 0.5 inches now given that this is a plastic chassis it is lighter than the xps 13 so that's a bonus the interior space is pretty similar to the zenbook 14 from last year you still get the same edge to edge standard keyboard and the keys themselves are average there is good travel distance but you get a mushy feeling when you bottom out it's also backlit in white and the brightness levels are pretty good the trackpad is great it is made out of glass and it's really smooth to navigate with the integrated left and right buttons feel nice and tactile and just like most zenbooks asus has implemented the numpad which is cool now this is what the webcam sounds like on the zenbook 13. the quality is good and the microphone sounds pretty good actually asus has built in a bunch of noise cancelling characteristics which is probably one of the best out there for the nightlight laptops the speakers are located on the bottom and they sound alright i mean i would keep your expectations low for this price point so yeah it's it'll get the job done nothing special switching gears to the display and this is where things get really interesting guys asus actually decided to implement a 1080p oled panel and that's something that you never find on laptops within this price range usually those are reserved for the more expensive tiers and the quality of this panel is excellent it covers 100 srgb 97 adobe rgb and 100 dc ip3 so it's incredibly color accurate great for photo and a little bit of video editing if you're into that and it's pretty bright too for my testing i got a peak reading of 395 nits which is above average compared to the competition the only drawback is that it's a glossy display so it's super reflective and it's something that i wouldn't recommend using outdoors now given that this is an oled panel you might have questions about burn-in or potential burning issues well asus actually has built in something called oled care that launches a screen saver after the display is being idled for 30 minutes so that there isn't anything static for a long time which is you know the main reasons for burning on oled panels the port situation hasn't changed from the zenbook 14 uh starting on the left hand side there's a full size hdmi output and two usb 3.2 gen 2 type c connections either one of which can be used to charge the laptop and on the right hand side there's a usb 3.2 gen 1 type a port and a micro sd card reader and once again they emitted the headphone jack i i i know a lot of you guys were pissed about this last year and i just don't know what to say this time it's just really disappointing i thought that they would take notes or take feedback from customers but maybe they don't care asus come on what happened now getting under the hood of the zenbook 13 was a bit challenging you have to remove the rubber feet at the front in order to access the screws that hold the back plate once that's done you can pop open the rest and as you can see the memory is soldered onto the pcb so you only get one shot at memory configurations before you pull the trigger the primary nvme ssd is accessible and the drive speeds on this one are really fast in fact it's the fastest that i've come across on an ultrabook so i think it's time to talk about performance how good is zen 3 on a thin and light form factor remember this cpu is going up against the best intel has to offer with their tiger lake lineup and we've already seen some pretty good competition from the end for example the 2021 edition of the razer book 13 had the i7 1165 g7 and so did the zenbook flip s from earlier this year the only thing that you need to realize is the eight thread intel cpus are going up against this tiny 16 thread monster from amd so you can guess who's going to hold the edge in a lot of the benchmarks but the first thing i want to cover is probably one of the most important for anyone buying a thin and light laptop and that's battery life and yes this thing just destroys everything here except the zenbook 14 which uses a ryzen 7 4700u and a bit different power settings to get a ridiculous 20 hours also remember that when operating at our test at 250 nits the oled screen on this technically consumes a bit more power than the zenbook 14. the most interesting thing is that this just walked all over the zenbook flip s which uses an intel core i7 1165g7 and it has the exact same battery size i guess that just goes to prove that amd's power management is just really really good even under heavy load the zenbook 13 is getting almost four hours of use time which is also pretty impressive this is also an area where the intel-based zenbook flip s really puts the pedal to the metal and runs right to the front it looks like when laptops are chewing through a workload the tiger lake based systems start making up some ground at least now when it comes to performance just like every other laptop manufacturers asus has added a few custom power plans that are pretty straightforward so the standard mode basically balances performance with efficiency and fan speeds just to make sure you get the best all-around experience meanwhile whisper mode sacrifices performance for lower surface temperatures and of course it the fans are almost turned off which is certainly handy for conference calls finally performance mode does exactly what it says optimizes everything for the best possible performance if you need to sort of speed things up for your workflow but also that means the fan noise is going to be a little bit higher as well as the cpu temperatures that are on that same level as well so keep that in mind and based on what i saw from acoustics every mode offers something different but even in the highest setting the zenbook 13 never really got loud the only annoying thing was performance mode ended up running the fans at higher rpm levels during idle times like just web browsing as far as surface temperatures goes well this thing's really well behaved guys and you don't have to worry about popping this thing into your lab every now and then but how does this all translate into frequencies temperatures and power well in high performance mode asus is running the 5800u pretty close to its 25w limit at least for the first four minutes of testing then it starts drawing back to about 21 watts and stays there until the rest of our test standard mode actually looks like a bunch of waves at the beginning where it goes between 17 watts and 18 watts but it behaves a lot like performance since after about 10 minutes it levels off at 14 watts and whisper well that just sticks to just 10 watts and that leads to both standard and high performance hitting well above amd's all-core base clock of 1.9 gigahertz but you can actually tell that frequencies are directly affected by the 5800 use power threshold either way standard ends up leveling out to 2.35 gigahertz while high performance bumps it up to a bit further uh to 2.55 gigahertz whisper though well that's under the base clock but it's to be expected when you think about what asus intends to do with this mode one of the nice things about zen3 and the 5800u is that it runs so darn cool that asus was able to jam it into a thin frame cool it at a pretty low noise level and not having to worry about overheating i mean look zen 3 has a maximum heat level of 105 watts and this thing never got above 74 and that's great to see but what does this all translate into actual real world performance well that's where things start to get a bit interesting so let's dive into it starting off with cinebench and it's something that i've been saying for a while now provided there's enough cooling driving more wattage to any piece of silicon will increase performance and that's why the lenovo yoga with the 4800u is a bit faster than the zenbook 13 with a newer 5800u we also can't forget that the lenovo is heavier thicker and louder than the zenbook 13. so it's not like the additional performance is completely free but lightly threaded applications are where zn3 shines and that's exactly what happened here actually seeing it beat tiger lake in a test where intel used to dominate is really amazing moving on to more of amd's strengths with multi-core applications and i think the 5800 u's domination over anything tiger lake was pretty much a foregone conclusion but and this is a big deal guys you can see that the yoga's ability to pump out higher clock speeds and sustain them over longer periods of time allows it to pull far ahead of the zenbook 13 here at the same time i really have to wonder what would happen if the 1500 u was allowed to run at a constant 30 watts now that's something that i'm really interested to see while it's great to see these multi-core results let's be honest for a sec most thin and light laptops like this one will spend most of their lives being used for more basic lightly threaded tasks like word processing spreadsheets and school assignments and here the zen 3 architecture can really start to stretch its legs especially over the zen 2 cpus and yes even something like the yoga is getting its butt handed to here another good bit of news is that amd is now able to compete directly against some of the best cpus from the tiger lake series in the past that just wasn't possible but now we're seeing a super efficient low voltage 20 watt ryzen cpu knocking down one of the last areas intel had a lead in but then again you also need to take into account that gpu accelerated apps like premiere will probably start favoring intel's newest processors for now that's because even the 5800u still uses amd's ancient vega architecture which just struggles against the xc igp integrated into tiger league speaking of graphics what you're starting to see here with premiere continues with the 5800u where it really ends up struggling against the xe as a matter of fact it really doesn't score all that much better than the zenbook 14 and the yoga ideapad slim 7. even though both of those are using last year's architecture i mean look i know that you probably don't expect your super slim and light laptop to play games that well but with more people looking forward to multi-function devices and gaming getting really popular these days this is going to be a big deal now and in the future as well the only thing that's in amd's favor here is that their drivers are a bit better behaved and you can see that with rainbow six which just refuses to run on any intel machines so you've seen the numbers and it's pretty obvious how fast the ryzen 7 5800u is the improvements of zen3 can really be seen with single core performance which intel had a lead on until now there's just no competition for the 5800u in the performance sector unless if you look at the graphics side of things where it just starts to fall apart now as for the zenbook 13 oled i'm actually really impressed with what this brings to the table for a thousand dollars the display is just beautiful i mean oled for this price point is awesome the trackpad is nice the battery life is insane and the ports they are respectable except for the fact that it doesn't come with a headphone jack i'm really disappointed with that the build quality is all right i mean it's nothing it's it's it's not a huge improvement uh compared to last year's model it's basically the same but i should also mention that the lack of thunderbolt could be a deal breaker for a lot of people who rely on connecting a million peripherals uh to their thin online devices for their particular workflow and also there's a question of availability which i guess we'll just have to wait and see until you know q4 so on that note thank you so much for watching i hope you were able to take away everything that you needed to know about the zenbook 13 oled let me know what you guys think about the 5800u are you impressed and you know if you're shopping for a thin line laptop you know will this be on the top of your list if you can find one of course i'm here with hardware canucks thank you so much for watching guys and uh yeah stay safe spend responsibly and i'll see you in the next oneearlier this year at ces amd announced their ryzen 5008 series of processors for gaming laptops which as we all know brings some rock solid performance to the table but they also announced the 5000 u-series catered towards thin and light devices and that was really exciting because it embraces the zen 3 architecture keep in mind that not all u-series were zen 3 there was a mix of zen 2 as well anyways ever since that announcement things have been pretty quiet there was no word from amd or audio manufacturers in terms of product announcements and availability until now when this thing showed up at the studio this is the zenbook 13 oled from asus and it packs the fastest users processor that you can find on the market to date and a beautiful oled display along with some other great perks so let's dive into this powerhouse examine the hardware briefly and discuss performance spoiler alert this thing is insane show off the cool build and not the cables with the new corsair 5000 series welcome the all-new interior you'll appreciate for whatever build you desire without any hassle of cable management and appropriate cooling all around with proper dust filtration on all three models check it out below now before i get to the specs of the zenbook 13 i think it's important to do a quick refresh of the 5000 new series i mean look the fact that it's been almost six months since amd's announcement and they're only now slowly being able to roll out these chips and buy slow i mean really slowly really goes to show how tight the supply really is anyways the reason why this needs to be brought up is because the 5000 u-series chips you'll see in these things are broken into two categories uh the ryzen 7 5800u which has eight cores and 16 threads along with the six core 12 thread ryzen 5 5600u are the only ones with the new zen 3 architecture meanwhile the 5700u 5500u and the 5300u get the old zen 2 cores but with some enhancements for better overall performance that means very good multi-core scaling from one generation to another regardless of which 5000 series processor you get but the zen 2 parts don't get all the enhancements that allows the newest generation to be damn impressive in lightly threaded tasks considering a lot of thin light laptops like the zenbook won't typically be used for ultra heavy workloads looking towards the updated architecture could be a better idea but like i said worldwide supply of microchips has been pretty limited for last year and adding some refreshed zen2 chips into the mix is allowing amd and some of their partners to roll out at least some new laptops right now and that's exactly what asus is doing with the zenbook 13 here in many regions you can buy the 5700u and the 5500u versions or at least put in a pre-order but the 5800u and the 5600u are pretty much impossible to find but that doesn't mean the situation's going to last forever since some retailers already have it listed i know some folks have mentioned availability in may or june of this year but according to what we've been hearing that isn't going to be the case guys supposedly most zen 3 based thin and light laptops are actually being pushed back to after september sometime and that's really bad news especially if you've been waiting for one of these so with that out of the way let's get into what this generation of amd zenbooks is going to be rocking in terms of specs and prices so this laptop actually starts at eight hundred dollars and for that you get a ryzen five 5500 eu cpu with six cores and twelve threads you also get eight gigabytes of ram half a terabyte of storage and a 1080p oled display for an extra hundred dollars that'll bump the cpu to a ryzen 7 5700u with 8 cores and 16 threads our sample comes with the new zen 3 5800u with 16 gigabytes of ram and a terabyte of storage now in terms of pricing uh i'm thinking that it's going to be a thousand dollars even though that it's not confirmed but that's what we've been hearing so that if that's true that's pretty amazing now from the outside this laptop looks a lot like the zenbook 14 that we looked at last year featuring the 4700u processor the chassis is mostly made out of plastic materials and the lid features this spun metal finish that can easily pick up fingerprints oddly on my sample i noticed something rattling inside it could be a piece of plastic somewhere in there but keep in mind that i have a pre-production sample so that could be it the hinge is okay it's pretty smooth and you can open the lid with one hand but it does exhibit a lot of wobbling and that can be discomforting for some people who type with laptops on their laps and look this is not going to compete with the premium unibody aluminum constructions that we're used to seeing on expensive ultrabooks i mean for the price asus did their best but if i'm being too picky ever since i looked at the ideapad slim sun from lenovo i feel like asus could have taken a page from their books in terms of overall aesthetics and just the robustness because i feel like that laptop i feel like that's still a gem as for size it's slightly bigger than the xps 13 but it's about the same size as the razer book 13 and it's pretty thin coming in at 0.5 inches now given that this is a plastic chassis it is lighter than the xps 13 so that's a bonus the interior space is pretty similar to the zenbook 14 from last year you still get the same edge to edge standard keyboard and the keys themselves are average there is good travel distance but you get a mushy feeling when you bottom out it's also backlit in white and the brightness levels are pretty good the trackpad is great it is made out of glass and it's really smooth to navigate with the integrated left and right buttons feel nice and tactile and just like most zenbooks asus has implemented the numpad which is cool now this is what the webcam sounds like on the zenbook 13. the quality is good and the microphone sounds pretty good actually asus has built in a bunch of noise cancelling characteristics which is probably one of the best out there for the nightlight laptops the speakers are located on the bottom and they sound alright i mean i would keep your expectations low for this price point so yeah it's it'll get the job done nothing special switching gears to the display and this is where things get really interesting guys asus actually decided to implement a 1080p oled panel and that's something that you never find on laptops within this price range usually those are reserved for the more expensive tiers and the quality of this panel is excellent it covers 100 srgb 97 adobe rgb and 100 dc ip3 so it's incredibly color accurate great for photo and a little bit of video editing if you're into that and it's pretty bright too for my testing i got a peak reading of 395 nits which is above average compared to the competition the only drawback is that it's a glossy display so it's super reflective and it's something that i wouldn't recommend using outdoors now given that this is an oled panel you might have questions about burn-in or potential burning issues well asus actually has built in something called oled care that launches a screen saver after the display is being idled for 30 minutes so that there isn't anything static for a long time which is you know the main reasons for burning on oled panels the port situation hasn't changed from the zenbook 14 uh starting on the left hand side there's a full size hdmi output and two usb 3.2 gen 2 type c connections either one of which can be used to charge the laptop and on the right hand side there's a usb 3.2 gen 1 type a port and a micro sd card reader and once again they emitted the headphone jack i i i know a lot of you guys were pissed about this last year and i just don't know what to say this time it's just really disappointing i thought that they would take notes or take feedback from customers but maybe they don't care asus come on what happened now getting under the hood of the zenbook 13 was a bit challenging you have to remove the rubber feet at the front in order to access the screws that hold the back plate once that's done you can pop open the rest and as you can see the memory is soldered onto the pcb so you only get one shot at memory configurations before you pull the trigger the primary nvme ssd is accessible and the drive speeds on this one are really fast in fact it's the fastest that i've come across on an ultrabook so i think it's time to talk about performance how good is zen 3 on a thin and light form factor remember this cpu is going up against the best intel has to offer with their tiger lake lineup and we've already seen some pretty good competition from the end for example the 2021 edition of the razer book 13 had the i7 1165 g7 and so did the zenbook flip s from earlier this year the only thing that you need to realize is the eight thread intel cpus are going up against this tiny 16 thread monster from amd so you can guess who's going to hold the edge in a lot of the benchmarks but the first thing i want to cover is probably one of the most important for anyone buying a thin and light laptop and that's battery life and yes this thing just destroys everything here except the zenbook 14 which uses a ryzen 7 4700u and a bit different power settings to get a ridiculous 20 hours also remember that when operating at our test at 250 nits the oled screen on this technically consumes a bit more power than the zenbook 14. the most interesting thing is that this just walked all over the zenbook flip s which uses an intel core i7 1165g7 and it has the exact same battery size i guess that just goes to prove that amd's power management is just really really good even under heavy load the zenbook 13 is getting almost four hours of use time which is also pretty impressive this is also an area where the intel-based zenbook flip s really puts the pedal to the metal and runs right to the front it looks like when laptops are chewing through a workload the tiger lake based systems start making up some ground at least now when it comes to performance just like every other laptop manufacturers asus has added a few custom power plans that are pretty straightforward so the standard mode basically balances performance with efficiency and fan speeds just to make sure you get the best all-around experience meanwhile whisper mode sacrifices performance for lower surface temperatures and of course it the fans are almost turned off which is certainly handy for conference calls finally performance mode does exactly what it says optimizes everything for the best possible performance if you need to sort of speed things up for your workflow but also that means the fan noise is going to be a little bit higher as well as the cpu temperatures that are on that same level as well so keep that in mind and based on what i saw from acoustics every mode offers something different but even in the highest setting the zenbook 13 never really got loud the only annoying thing was performance mode ended up running the fans at higher rpm levels during idle times like just web browsing as far as surface temperatures goes well this thing's really well behaved guys and you don't have to worry about popping this thing into your lab every now and then but how does this all translate into frequencies temperatures and power well in high performance mode asus is running the 5800u pretty close to its 25w limit at least for the first four minutes of testing then it starts drawing back to about 21 watts and stays there until the rest of our test standard mode actually looks like a bunch of waves at the beginning where it goes between 17 watts and 18 watts but it behaves a lot like performance since after about 10 minutes it levels off at 14 watts and whisper well that just sticks to just 10 watts and that leads to both standard and high performance hitting well above amd's all-core base clock of 1.9 gigahertz but you can actually tell that frequencies are directly affected by the 5800 use power threshold either way standard ends up leveling out to 2.35 gigahertz while high performance bumps it up to a bit further uh to 2.55 gigahertz whisper though well that's under the base clock but it's to be expected when you think about what asus intends to do with this mode one of the nice things about zen3 and the 5800u is that it runs so darn cool that asus was able to jam it into a thin frame cool it at a pretty low noise level and not having to worry about overheating i mean look zen 3 has a maximum heat level of 105 watts and this thing never got above 74 and that's great to see but what does this all translate into actual real world performance well that's where things start to get a bit interesting so let's dive into it starting off with cinebench and it's something that i've been saying for a while now provided there's enough cooling driving more wattage to any piece of silicon will increase performance and that's why the lenovo yoga with the 4800u is a bit faster than the zenbook 13 with a newer 5800u we also can't forget that the lenovo is heavier thicker and louder than the zenbook 13. so it's not like the additional performance is completely free but lightly threaded applications are where zn3 shines and that's exactly what happened here actually seeing it beat tiger lake in a test where intel used to dominate is really amazing moving on to more of amd's strengths with multi-core applications and i think the 5800 u's domination over anything tiger lake was pretty much a foregone conclusion but and this is a big deal guys you can see that the yoga's ability to pump out higher clock speeds and sustain them over longer periods of time allows it to pull far ahead of the zenbook 13 here at the same time i really have to wonder what would happen if the 1500 u was allowed to run at a constant 30 watts now that's something that i'm really interested to see while it's great to see these multi-core results let's be honest for a sec most thin and light laptops like this one will spend most of their lives being used for more basic lightly threaded tasks like word processing spreadsheets and school assignments and here the zen 3 architecture can really start to stretch its legs especially over the zen 2 cpus and yes even something like the yoga is getting its butt handed to here another good bit of news is that amd is now able to compete directly against some of the best cpus from the tiger lake series in the past that just wasn't possible but now we're seeing a super efficient low voltage 20 watt ryzen cpu knocking down one of the last areas intel had a lead in but then again you also need to take into account that gpu accelerated apps like premiere will probably start favoring intel's newest processors for now that's because even the 5800u still uses amd's ancient vega architecture which just struggles against the xc igp integrated into tiger league speaking of graphics what you're starting to see here with premiere continues with the 5800u where it really ends up struggling against the xe as a matter of fact it really doesn't score all that much better than the zenbook 14 and the yoga ideapad slim 7. even though both of those are using last year's architecture i mean look i know that you probably don't expect your super slim and light laptop to play games that well but with more people looking forward to multi-function devices and gaming getting really popular these days this is going to be a big deal now and in the future as well the only thing that's in amd's favor here is that their drivers are a bit better behaved and you can see that with rainbow six which just refuses to run on any intel machines so you've seen the numbers and it's pretty obvious how fast the ryzen 7 5800u is the improvements of zen3 can really be seen with single core performance which intel had a lead on until now there's just no competition for the 5800u in the performance sector unless if you look at the graphics side of things where it just starts to fall apart now as for the zenbook 13 oled i'm actually really impressed with what this brings to the table for a thousand dollars the display is just beautiful i mean oled for this price point is awesome the trackpad is nice the battery life is insane and the ports they are respectable except for the fact that it doesn't come with a headphone jack i'm really disappointed with that the build quality is all right i mean it's nothing it's it's it's not a huge improvement uh compared to last year's model it's basically the same but i should also mention that the lack of thunderbolt could be a deal breaker for a lot of people who rely on connecting a million peripherals uh to their thin online devices for their particular workflow and also there's a question of availability which i guess we'll just have to wait and see until you know q4 so on that note thank you so much for watching i hope you were able to take away everything that you needed to know about the zenbook 13 oled let me know what you guys think about the 5800u are you impressed and you know if you're shopping for a thin line laptop you know will this be on the top of your list if you can find one of course i'm here with hardware canucks thank you so much for watching guys and uh yeah stay safe spend responsibly and i'll see you in the next one\n"