This CPU Cooler Is Seriously Underrated _ Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B Review
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enthis here is the scythe Mugen that's how you actually say it it's a Japanese word okay bear with me Mugen five rev be wise read be important and for support a hugely popular platform as of late so it makes sense to add support for it this is one of the most underrated coolers I think you can find and it's not just because it's coming from a company called site I mean scythe makes really good stuff having very unique air coolers but they're not as popular in the US so I wanted to make this video to not only bring it to your attention but show you how good it is for the money stay with me by this point you've probably seen our original ad for thermo Grizzly's carbonate pads they're clean peace of mind replacements for traditional thermal paste and best of all you'll never have to replace them did you also know that you can buy carbonate pads in different sizes for various processors 32 by 32 millimeter for Intel desktop CPUs 38 by 38 for Intel ADT and horizon 25 by 25 for the RDX 2080 GPU and so on they even make a giant 51 by sixty eight millimeter pad for the thread Ripper I highly recommend Carbonite pads and you can learn more by clicking the link below let's go ahead and open the box see what's inside bit of a different format for this video I don't know what you guys think about in the comments below so this is our install box I'm sure all of our goodies around there this is one of our site fans a 120mm fan here with some gray accents not bad and then we come to the kula get rid of that this is a beauty folks so you get that nice looking scythe logo there up top you've got these beautiful termination points for the heat pipes so there are just in case you're wondering 6 nickel-plated it looks like copper heat pipes pretty beefy cold plate there and it looks like the mounting mechanism at least part of it is secured to the cold plate itself at the top of it so installation shouldn't be too difficult and actually want to get up close there Nate you can see this is where you're gonna funnel one of your Phillips screwdrivers I'm not sure if you get one in the box I don't I don't know if you do but you're gonna funnel it through this opening at the top and that's how you're gonna secure one of the screws above the cold plate the other one as long as you know how the fan installed should be pretty easy to access but I've got to say build quality in this thing look in pretty sweet again he the price in mind it's not too expensive all right so let's see what we get in our install box here and I'm hoping that a screwdriver is included because okay that answers that oh wow this one's it's pretty cute so you're gonna get this and again like I was trying to explain earlier this is gonna slide down through the thin stack and you're gonna be able to secure this screw like so so very nice that you get this also included with the cooler again at this price and it looks like the mounting gear is pretty standard it doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary I've installed dozens of coolers by this point and I can pretty much get an idea for how complex this insults gonna be with the exception of tolerances just based on yeah the stuff I'm seeing in here sorry those probably annoying so what I want to do next is install the cooler we're gonna use a ten 900k because I feel like going ham and figured we're gonna be testing this cooler for its thermal capacity and ability to dissipate heat and we might as well I don't know why I threw that on the ground but anyway this CPU gets plenty hot as I'm sure you're aware I figured it'd be a good candidate for some CPU cooler testing it doesn't really make sense in my opinion to pair such an expensive CPU with a cooler that's only gonna run you in the you know 50s or 40s like you might as well go all out and spend a hundred bucks on a 360 MOA IO or something similar to that in terms of heating potential but I just want to get the point across that this thing is actually effective for the price and still holds its own when compared to some of the more expensive offerings otherwise why would you buy it first thing we're doing is securing the backplate here and you actually do that from the front so you've got these little standoffs this at least is the install process for LGA 1150 X and I guess in this case LGA 1200 same cooler installation process the the holes on the boards are the same so don't worry about LG 1200 support as long as it fits LGA 1150 X it should fit 1200 as well if these standoffs in here and we're gonna get this bracket secure this is pretty standard stuff in case you're wondering and you get to use the included Phillips screwdriver for pretty much everything all right up next I'm going to use the scythe stock thermal compound now I like to use the included pastes whenever I'm testing a coolers performance because this if this is bad will affect the coolest performance overall obviously and this is a way for me to incentivize companies to include better thermal compound so that their coolers overall perform better that is the goal after all so we're going to use this stuff here and yep that's looking pretty milky now this should be fairly straightforward line this up oh yeah I can but slide this on down from the top it's funny how like pretty much every like tower cooler like this follows a similar install process I mean they all kind of utilize the same designs in a way to get these mounted atop the CPUs so this fan actually bottoms out on the top of this screw here that's just secure the cooler to the to the bracket below it so you can't lower this fan anymore you could use a slimmer fan but then you would you know you lose the effectiveness of the fan overall you can displace as much air because the fins are a bit smaller they do use these wire frame little fan bracket whatever you call them things but I am NOT the biggest fan of them because they frankly suck so we're gonna lock it in on one side it's knots but I'm okay I'm doing this little backwards but just trying to prove a point here I do not like these wire designs I love how we've just like completely neglected the primary camera we're going AWOL at this point alright she's installed I mean look it's not terrible it's just a few uh that's also pumped out just a few extra seconds worth of install and frustration but the end of the day the fan is very securing we do have these rubber vibration mounts which is nice again in a cooler in this price range last thing to do then connect the fan cable - it's respectable header and that's actually the optional header I'm just gonna be picky for the sake of being picky there we go that's CPU fan header number one and we're ready to start testing now I know some of you you know you get your panties in a wad when we do these cooler tests externally as in not inside of a case so we're gonna throw this essentially a full build together and we're gonna run some long-term CPU thermal tests maybe prime95 and some quick bursts and games and see how she holds up so we have been running tests with the Mugen 5 as well as a few other coolers you're gonna see those in our graphs here in a second I wanted to just review the install process fairly quickly it should take you longer than I would say a few minutes to get this installed at least on an Intel board and I know that the install process for the AMD chips looks very similar to other towers of the swarm factors so nothing unorthodox you should run into any hiccups when installing I did make the mistake of not removing the plastic underneath the cold plates first time in my life I've done something like that I know so it's basically pegging P Junction immediately after starting right at 64 benchmarks and the CP was throttling by 20-30 percent that was stalk that was like there's no way this cooler is that bad so I ended up under volting and under clocking the cpu to 4 gigahertz and 1.2 v core and still throttled ended up realizing my mistake but I decided to leave the 10 900 k at 4 gigahertz all core all 10 cores and then a 1.2 v core it didn't really matter where we ended up as long as we were consistent between runs when we were testing different air coolers so how does the Mugen 5 Rev B stack up to the competition so as I said before I did 64 engineer was used 30-minute sessions of piece we as normal fan curves for the entire system including the stock fans that came with a case that's two fans up front and one fan at three others or one 40s peer wing two fans that come with the 500 DX from be quiet I tested the hyper 212 black edition which was kind of our control I don't want to I use that word loosely because it's not really a can roll singers that we weren't using a stock cooler there is no stock cooler in food with a ten hundred K but the hyper 212 foreign for all intents and purposes is and if like a staple so it's something you can benchmark against because it's so good for the price and then of course the Mugen five was next then we have the dark rock for from be quiet which is usually a bit more expensive than the Mugen five and then the Nhu twelve eight which comes in at a hundred bucks the very compact our more compact than this actually but it has I believe seven nickel plated copper heat pipes it's a friggin beast and it's it's a fairly quiet fan as well so premium product they're one of the best cooling air towers on the market just to kind of see what a best-case scenario would look like and the Mugen five actually did better than I expected I ever 212 Evo came in at 71 degrees Celsius for the hottest core and thirty nine degrees Celsius at idle the idol temps are kind of wishy-washy this some more or less tell you how Wyatt the cooler is at idle I don't really want you to pay attention to the temperatures themselves because the fans ramp down to different rpms are all different the Mugen five came in at the same 71 degrees Celsius you're wondering okay we said this is a better cooler how are you surprised if it's doing as well as a hyper 212 it costs less you'll see here in a second I think you know where I'm going with this the dark arc 4 came in at 68 degrees Celsius that's a three degree drop from the Mugen 5 and the Nhu 12a dropped another two degrees Celsius so the in 1812 a is definitely the best cooler here on to the sound test the hybrid should fall Black Edition was fairly loud in our testing forty three point two decimals under full load at thirty seven point two at idle which was just a tad higher than the remaining coolers probably and having to do with the fan a now being able to ran down as low as the other coolers here the in a 212 a came in actually second to loudest among the four coolers at forty one point three decimals which is a bit strange for not to a cooler to do although you need to keep in mind 41.3 given ambient at thirty five point two roughly is not a significant bump so it's still a very quiet cooler but the two quietest coolers in my testing with the dark rock four and believe it or not the Mugen five both came in at around forty point one DB a pop thirty five point two at idle I'm super shocked by how quiet this cooler is under load in fact this entire time been filming with this system under full load in i-264 engineer I shouldn't say full load it's not the graphics cards not being stressed but the CPU is now the side panels off so I'm giving it a bit of an advantage here but this is super quiet I'm not even sure if you're gonna be able to hear it from my lav mic it's just it's an astounding cooler for the price and what scythe has essentially done is sacrificed a bit of the cooling potential with this cooler for the sake of keeping a quiet overall profile quiet or even in my testing at least than the Nhu 12a which is pretty shocking because that cooler is a hundred bucks granted the Nhu 12a is by far the best cooling cooler here I'm finding my words but I think you get the idea the sight cooler at around 40 to 50 bucks is gonna be a heck of a deal if you're interested in a cooler that I think looks really good and it also stays fairly quiet it might not be the best cooler in the sense that it can't keep temps as low as you might like but it certainly holds its own at least in this case here with a 4 gigahertz all core which is again we're under volting underclocking but when compared to the nature 12a it's really not doing that bad so let's talk about what's I did in a nutshell they managed to keep a profile like this which I don't think is very ostentatious plenty of RAM clearance actually not an issue at all with room you could populate all four slots in this board and not have an issue at all and they've also managed to keep the the sound profile fairly low at the expense somewhat at least of core temperatures I don't think that's a bad thing because the hyper 212 did it really well talking what 71 degrees Celsius under full load granted we did under Bolton under clocked but again I'm worried more or less about consistency here and and not whether or not it can cool at n900 k if you're gonna spend 500 plus dollars on a CPU I don't think it makes much sense to spend only 40 or 50 bucks on an air cooler might want something a bit beefier to handle a chip like this around 70 well yeah 71 degrees Celsius that's actually exactly what we had in our charts and this has been going for another 45 minutes or so so the temperatures have definitely all about air coolers typically do they saturate fairly fast unlike a iOS whose liquids inside of those take a bit longer to equalize with the thermal output of CPU so I think for 40 or 50 bucks this is a heck of a CPU cooler definitely not the best performer from a temperature perspective but I don't think anyone's buying this because they know it's like a serious air cooler contender in a sense that it keeps tennis low that that's not what I think psifas is targeting here I think they want to have a low profile quiet cooler for the price and this is at least in my testing the quietest one yet so fairly impressed there for the price you can find a link below along with the other air coolers we've tested here if you want to know what we use to build the system here I'll link a few other parts including the case in the graphics card but yeah I had a lot of fun with this one and I really think that the Mugen 5mu in five you know as a Mugen the Mugen 5 rev V is one worth considering this would work especially well with the lower TDP AMD chips I think that goes without saying that those chips are extremely efficient and something like this would be plenty thermal capacity for those chips as well as super quiet which I've said multiple times by now so if I haven't emphasized enough yet then moving to 5 Rev B and incredibly quiet cooler especially for the price you guys like this one click that like button instead of subscribing and I guess I'll catch you in the next one my name is Greg thanks for learning with me I'm just screwing with Nate he's gonna have so much trouble doing all these cuts or maybe you guys are gonna have trouble viewing all of these cuts I guess I'm not really hurting you as much as I am the viewers I'm sorry I apologizethis here is the scythe Mugen that's how you actually say it it's a Japanese word okay bear with me Mugen five rev be wise read be important and for support a hugely popular platform as of late so it makes sense to add support for it this is one of the most underrated coolers I think you can find and it's not just because it's coming from a company called site I mean scythe makes really good stuff having very unique air coolers but they're not as popular in the US so I wanted to make this video to not only bring it to your attention but show you how good it is for the money stay with me by this point you've probably seen our original ad for thermo Grizzly's carbonate pads they're clean peace of mind replacements for traditional thermal paste and best of all you'll never have to replace them did you also know that you can buy carbonate pads in different sizes for various processors 32 by 32 millimeter for Intel desktop CPUs 38 by 38 for Intel ADT and horizon 25 by 25 for the RDX 2080 GPU and so on they even make a giant 51 by sixty eight millimeter pad for the thread Ripper I highly recommend Carbonite pads and you can learn more by clicking the link below let's go ahead and open the box see what's inside bit of a different format for this video I don't know what you guys think about in the comments below so this is our install box I'm sure all of our goodies around there this is one of our site fans a 120mm fan here with some gray accents not bad and then we come to the kula get rid of that this is a beauty folks so you get that nice looking scythe logo there up top you've got these beautiful termination points for the heat pipes so there are just in case you're wondering 6 nickel-plated it looks like copper heat pipes pretty beefy cold plate there and it looks like the mounting mechanism at least part of it is secured to the cold plate itself at the top of it so installation shouldn't be too difficult and actually want to get up close there Nate you can see this is where you're gonna funnel one of your Phillips screwdrivers I'm not sure if you get one in the box I don't I don't know if you do but you're gonna funnel it through this opening at the top and that's how you're gonna secure one of the screws above the cold plate the other one as long as you know how the fan installed should be pretty easy to access but I've got to say build quality in this thing look in pretty sweet again he the price in mind it's not too expensive all right so let's see what we get in our install box here and I'm hoping that a screwdriver is included because okay that answers that oh wow this one's it's pretty cute so you're gonna get this and again like I was trying to explain earlier this is gonna slide down through the thin stack and you're gonna be able to secure this screw like so so very nice that you get this also included with the cooler again at this price and it looks like the mounting gear is pretty standard it doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary I've installed dozens of coolers by this point and I can pretty much get an idea for how complex this insults gonna be with the exception of tolerances just based on yeah the stuff I'm seeing in here sorry those probably annoying so what I want to do next is install the cooler we're gonna use a ten 900k because I feel like going ham and figured we're gonna be testing this cooler for its thermal capacity and ability to dissipate heat and we might as well I don't know why I threw that on the ground but anyway this CPU gets plenty hot as I'm sure you're aware I figured it'd be a good candidate for some CPU cooler testing it doesn't really make sense in my opinion to pair such an expensive CPU with a cooler that's only gonna run you in the you know 50s or 40s like you might as well go all out and spend a hundred bucks on a 360 MOA IO or something similar to that in terms of heating potential but I just want to get the point across that this thing is actually effective for the price and still holds its own when compared to some of the more expensive offerings otherwise why would you buy it first thing we're doing is securing the backplate here and you actually do that from the front so you've got these little standoffs this at least is the install process for LGA 1150 X and I guess in this case LGA 1200 same cooler installation process the the holes on the boards are the same so don't worry about LG 1200 support as long as it fits LGA 1150 X it should fit 1200 as well if these standoffs in here and we're gonna get this bracket secure this is pretty standard stuff in case you're wondering and you get to use the included Phillips screwdriver for pretty much everything all right up next I'm going to use the scythe stock thermal compound now I like to use the included pastes whenever I'm testing a coolers performance because this if this is bad will affect the coolest performance overall obviously and this is a way for me to incentivize companies to include better thermal compound so that their coolers overall perform better that is the goal after all so we're going to use this stuff here and yep that's looking pretty milky now this should be fairly straightforward line this up oh yeah I can but slide this on down from the top it's funny how like pretty much every like tower cooler like this follows a similar install process I mean they all kind of utilize the same designs in a way to get these mounted atop the CPUs so this fan actually bottoms out on the top of this screw here that's just secure the cooler to the to the bracket below it so you can't lower this fan anymore you could use a slimmer fan but then you would you know you lose the effectiveness of the fan overall you can displace as much air because the fins are a bit smaller they do use these wire frame little fan bracket whatever you call them things but I am NOT the biggest fan of them because they frankly suck so we're gonna lock it in on one side it's knots but I'm okay I'm doing this little backwards but just trying to prove a point here I do not like these wire designs I love how we've just like completely neglected the primary camera we're going AWOL at this point alright she's installed I mean look it's not terrible it's just a few uh that's also pumped out just a few extra seconds worth of install and frustration but the end of the day the fan is very securing we do have these rubber vibration mounts which is nice again in a cooler in this price range last thing to do then connect the fan cable - it's respectable header and that's actually the optional header I'm just gonna be picky for the sake of being picky there we go that's CPU fan header number one and we're ready to start testing now I know some of you you know you get your panties in a wad when we do these cooler tests externally as in not inside of a case so we're gonna throw this essentially a full build together and we're gonna run some long-term CPU thermal tests maybe prime95 and some quick bursts and games and see how she holds up so we have been running tests with the Mugen 5 as well as a few other coolers you're gonna see those in our graphs here in a second I wanted to just review the install process fairly quickly it should take you longer than I would say a few minutes to get this installed at least on an Intel board and I know that the install process for the AMD chips looks very similar to other towers of the swarm factors so nothing unorthodox you should run into any hiccups when installing I did make the mistake of not removing the plastic underneath the cold plates first time in my life I've done something like that I know so it's basically pegging P Junction immediately after starting right at 64 benchmarks and the CP was throttling by 20-30 percent that was stalk that was like there's no way this cooler is that bad so I ended up under volting and under clocking the cpu to 4 gigahertz and 1.2 v core and still throttled ended up realizing my mistake but I decided to leave the 10 900 k at 4 gigahertz all core all 10 cores and then a 1.2 v core it didn't really matter where we ended up as long as we were consistent between runs when we were testing different air coolers so how does the Mugen 5 Rev B stack up to the competition so as I said before I did 64 engineer was used 30-minute sessions of piece we as normal fan curves for the entire system including the stock fans that came with a case that's two fans up front and one fan at three others or one 40s peer wing two fans that come with the 500 DX from be quiet I tested the hyper 212 black edition which was kind of our control I don't want to I use that word loosely because it's not really a can roll singers that we weren't using a stock cooler there is no stock cooler in food with a ten hundred K but the hyper 212 foreign for all intents and purposes is and if like a staple so it's something you can benchmark against because it's so good for the price and then of course the Mugen five was next then we have the dark rock for from be quiet which is usually a bit more expensive than the Mugen five and then the Nhu twelve eight which comes in at a hundred bucks the very compact our more compact than this actually but it has I believe seven nickel plated copper heat pipes it's a friggin beast and it's it's a fairly quiet fan as well so premium product they're one of the best cooling air towers on the market just to kind of see what a best-case scenario would look like and the Mugen five actually did better than I expected I ever 212 Evo came in at 71 degrees Celsius for the hottest core and thirty nine degrees Celsius at idle the idol temps are kind of wishy-washy this some more or less tell you how Wyatt the cooler is at idle I don't really want you to pay attention to the temperatures themselves because the fans ramp down to different rpms are all different the Mugen five came in at the same 71 degrees Celsius you're wondering okay we said this is a better cooler how are you surprised if it's doing as well as a hyper 212 it costs less you'll see here in a second I think you know where I'm going with this the dark arc 4 came in at 68 degrees Celsius that's a three degree drop from the Mugen 5 and the Nhu 12a dropped another two degrees Celsius so the in 1812 a is definitely the best cooler here on to the sound test the hybrid should fall Black Edition was fairly loud in our testing forty three point two decimals under full load at thirty seven point two at idle which was just a tad higher than the remaining coolers probably and having to do with the fan a now being able to ran down as low as the other coolers here the in a 212 a came in actually second to loudest among the four coolers at forty one point three decimals which is a bit strange for not to a cooler to do although you need to keep in mind 41.3 given ambient at thirty five point two roughly is not a significant bump so it's still a very quiet cooler but the two quietest coolers in my testing with the dark rock four and believe it or not the Mugen five both came in at around forty point one DB a pop thirty five point two at idle I'm super shocked by how quiet this cooler is under load in fact this entire time been filming with this system under full load in i-264 engineer I shouldn't say full load it's not the graphics cards not being stressed but the CPU is now the side panels off so I'm giving it a bit of an advantage here but this is super quiet I'm not even sure if you're gonna be able to hear it from my lav mic it's just it's an astounding cooler for the price and what scythe has essentially done is sacrificed a bit of the cooling potential with this cooler for the sake of keeping a quiet overall profile quiet or even in my testing at least than the Nhu 12a which is pretty shocking because that cooler is a hundred bucks granted the Nhu 12a is by far the best cooling cooler here I'm finding my words but I think you get the idea the sight cooler at around 40 to 50 bucks is gonna be a heck of a deal if you're interested in a cooler that I think looks really good and it also stays fairly quiet it might not be the best cooler in the sense that it can't keep temps as low as you might like but it certainly holds its own at least in this case here with a 4 gigahertz all core which is again we're under volting underclocking but when compared to the nature 12a it's really not doing that bad so let's talk about what's I did in a nutshell they managed to keep a profile like this which I don't think is very ostentatious plenty of RAM clearance actually not an issue at all with room you could populate all four slots in this board and not have an issue at all and they've also managed to keep the the sound profile fairly low at the expense somewhat at least of core temperatures I don't think that's a bad thing because the hyper 212 did it really well talking what 71 degrees Celsius under full load granted we did under Bolton under clocked but again I'm worried more or less about consistency here and and not whether or not it can cool at n900 k if you're gonna spend 500 plus dollars on a CPU I don't think it makes much sense to spend only 40 or 50 bucks on an air cooler might want something a bit beefier to handle a chip like this around 70 well yeah 71 degrees Celsius that's actually exactly what we had in our charts and this has been going for another 45 minutes or so so the temperatures have definitely all about air coolers typically do they saturate fairly fast unlike a iOS whose liquids inside of those take a bit longer to equalize with the thermal output of CPU so I think for 40 or 50 bucks this is a heck of a CPU cooler definitely not the best performer from a temperature perspective but I don't think anyone's buying this because they know it's like a serious air cooler contender in a sense that it keeps tennis low that that's not what I think psifas is targeting here I think they want to have a low profile quiet cooler for the price and this is at least in my testing the quietest one yet so fairly impressed there for the price you can find a link below along with the other air coolers we've tested here if you want to know what we use to build the system here I'll link a few other parts including the case in the graphics card but yeah I had a lot of fun with this one and I really think that the Mugen 5mu in five you know as a Mugen the Mugen 5 rev V is one worth considering this would work especially well with the lower TDP AMD chips I think that goes without saying that those chips are extremely efficient and something like this would be plenty thermal capacity for those chips as well as super quiet which I've said multiple times by now so if I haven't emphasized enough yet then moving to 5 Rev B and incredibly quiet cooler especially for the price you guys like this one click that like button instead of subscribing and I guess I'll catch you in the next one my name is Greg thanks for learning with me I'm just screwing with Nate he's gonna have so much trouble doing all these cuts or maybe you guys are gonna have trouble viewing all of these cuts I guess I'm not really hurting you as much as I am the viewers I'm sorry I apologize\n"