KINGPIN's DIY Overclocked E-Bike - Test Ride & Bike Check

Vince's Ebikes: A Ride Worth Taking

As I sat on the bike, feeling the rush of wind and the rumble of the engine, I couldn't help but think that this was not just any ordinary ebike. The unique design and components made it stand out from the crowd, and I was eager to take it for a spin.

The most striking feature of Vince's ebikes is its attention to detail. Every part of the bike has been carefully selected and fitted together with precision. From the 24x3.8 wheels to the Moto wheels, which are lighter but not as strong, every component has been chosen with a specific purpose in mind. The wheels, for instance, were a major concern for me. I had always been paranoid about them, worried that something would go wrong and I would be facing a wheel failure. But Vince reassured me that the Moto wheels were designed to be stronger and more reliable.

As we set off on our ride, I couldn't help but notice the unique selection of tires. The 19-inch front wheel and 26-inch rear wheel were a deliberate choice by Vince, aimed at giving the bike a sporty feel while also providing enough grip for rough terrain. And it was clear that this bike had been designed with speed in mind - the suspension seemed to be finely tuned, and the handling was smooth and responsive.

But what really sets Vince's ebikes apart is its attention to thermal management. The bike has a heatsink installed on the hub, which helps to keep the motor cool even when stopped for extended periods of time. It's a clever touch that speaks to Vince's attention to detail and his commitment to performance. And yet, despite this clever engineering, the bike still had some quirks - like the sticky tape used to hold the heatsink in place.

One thing that struck me during our test ride was the bike's power output. With its high-performance motor, Vince's ebikes can hit speeds of over 60 km/h, making it perfect for those who want a thrilling ride. But this also means that riders need to be careful and aware of their surroundings, especially when navigating busy roads.

The other notable feature of Vince's ebikes is the unique design elements that set them apart from more conventional e-bikes. The bike has a sleek and aerodynamic bodywork, which helps to reduce wind resistance and improve handling. And with its advanced cooling system, this bike can run smoothly even in hot weather conditions.

In conclusion, Vince's ebikes are not just another electric bike on the market - they're a unique and highly specialized machine that's designed for serious riders who want a thrilling experience. With its attention to detail, advanced thermal management system, and high-performance motor, this bike is sure to appeal to anyone looking for a fun and exhilarating ride.

As we rode through the streets, I couldn't help but feel impressed by Vince's craftsmanship and attention to detail. Every part of the bike seemed to have been carefully chosen and fitted together with precision, resulting in a machine that was both powerful and responsive. And as we came to a stop at a red light, I took a moment to appreciate the heat sink on the hub - it was clear that Vince had put thought into every aspect of this bike's design.

As for my own experience with ebikes, I have to say that this ride was one of the most exciting I've ever been on. The combination of speed and power made for an exhilarating ride, but also meant that riders need to be careful and aware of their surroundings. And as we came to a stop at a red light, I couldn't help but feel a sense of admiration for Vince's craftsmanship and attention to detail.

In the end, Vince's ebikes are not just another electric bike on the market - they're a unique and highly specialized machine that's designed for serious riders who want a thrilling experience. With its advanced thermal management system, high-performance motor, and sleek design elements, this bike is sure to appeal to anyone looking for a fun and exhilarating ride.

As I sat down to write about my experience with Vince's ebikes, I couldn't help but think about the unique aspects of this machine. From the 24x3.8 wheels to the Moto wheels, every component had been carefully selected and fitted together with precision. The bike had a sleek and aerodynamic bodywork, which helped to reduce wind resistance and improve handling. And with its advanced cooling system, this bike could run smoothly even in hot weather conditions.

As I looked through my notes and photos from our test ride, I couldn't help but feel impressed by Vince's craftsmanship and attention to detail. Every part of the bike seemed to have been carefully chosen and fitted together with precision, resulting in a machine that was both powerful and responsive. And as I thought about what set Vince's ebikes apart from more conventional e-bikes, I realized that it was their unique blend of performance, power, and design elements.

As we finished our test ride and prepared to part ways, I couldn't help but feel a sense of admiration for Vince's ebikes. The bike had been a joy to ride, with its smooth handling and responsive acceleration making for an exhilarating experience. And as I looked at the unique selection of tires - the 19-inch front wheel and 26-inch rear wheel - I realized that this bike was truly one-of-a-kind.

As I sat down to write about my experience with Vince's ebikes, I couldn't help but think about the unique aspects of this machine. From

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhey everyone we're here for a different type of video now so we're still on Taiwan we're in Taipei and I'm joined by Ken Penn from EVGA he's the guy with his name on the video cards if you didn't know so one of the top overclockers in the world but there's something else that he works on outside of video cards and it's ebikes we did a video on the side channel last year about this bike actually yep so you walked me through we talked about the parts that won it I think if I remember correctly it went you were approaching 60 miles an hour nothing so they're really fast they're not like the pedal assist II bikes they're like full throttle electric motorcycle basically and I have one of these at home now too that I haven't actually really shown publicly so this will be a fun option for us to to introduce people to it before that this video is brought to you by Thermaltake stuff ram RGB memory available from 3000 hertz up to 40 400 megahertz an 8 gigabyte by 2 configurations the third will take tough Ram uses 10 addressable RGB LEDs for bright illumination and comes in both black and white kits of memory learn more at the link in the description below so you've got to you have this one that you just built yep and then this one that you've modified from last year I guess to get everyone up to speed on why these are cool so like I said they're they're throttled it's got basically a small computer on it and then do you want to walk through like like like we talked about before the the basics of any bike you got a hub motor you have a battery and you have a controller right right and then you have the controls that interact with the controller to run everything the main differences between these two bikes is mostly weight ah and this one actually has motorcycle wheels on it and this one has by 24 inch bicycle wheels yeah yeah big difference power wise this one has a hundred fifty amp controller whereas this one is using a hundred twenty amp controller this can the controller can really impact how the performance of the e bike for sure we should talk about don't be a dick yeah I mean we're gonna go screw around on a bike trail right now and there's no one outside there's really at this this is the best time of the day we picked a workday the middle of the day yeah I think you got to be responsible with these you can't be an idiot are you gonna ruin it for everybody yeah sometimes I see other guys riding scooters and sometimes II bikes like really really fast and that's not good man that's just gonna create a bunch of unnecessary loss right yeah it'll get it like banned from trails or whatever so we got to be really careful today and well I never speed around pedestrians if I see anybody I always slow down no matter what the only time I really get on it is when there's literally nobody else around so I'm even then obviously if if any of you are like I want to get one of these you should still ride within your limits definitely don't don't be an idiot you could have like an animal run across your path and like there's some wild dog trying to avoid it and you'll be done yeah be done you you should drive within your ability and don't don't be irresponsible on the trails yeah you know for sure on the trails at home i i mostly stay on roads but if i go on like a gravel road or something i mean as soon as i see people I just take it out a bicycle speed whenever I look up like eBay like videos on YouTube or something I always I see more and more guys riding on paths yeah bike paths really fast like by pedestrians and stuff and I really advise against that yeah I think ultimately you just have to think about what would you think if you're in the pedestrian right right you're not like well that guy's so cool no it's like there's a friggin man ya gonna kill me is dangerous man yeah and then they're gonna have all kinds of kinds of stupid ebike laws yeah it's not worth it yeah yeah at home I ride a cool bikes Q 140 are weird no you were thinking of getting that frame too well it has more battery capacity you can stuff a lot more battery in that and that's that's my bottleneck right now I found what this bike is the battery batteries are expensive to you big-time and very heavy big-time I think my battery I upgrade it to their maximum capacity cuz I just use it for commuting to and from work and then I'll go take it out on gravel trails and stuff I think that battery it last me I kept maybe like thirty miles at full speed nice I like 40 something yeah that's a decent range but that's like $1500 for that battery yep yeah very expensive man so what uh it's 72 volt right yeah yes 72 yeah what's your what's your difference and the use of the controller is 120 150 yeah so this this has the 72 volt battery 72 volt battery similar q s 205 rear hub motor the main difference is the controller this one has the Sabaton 70 to 150 150 F controller very very nuts what I I think I have a Q s motor on mine yeah QF this one is this controller on here is just a Chinese controller I don't even know I don't remember who makes it you just find on Aliexpress or something yeah okay totally yeah it was the easiest to get I just wanted to get something quick yeah start playing around with it but this controller is just blows this one away what's the in terms of speed I guess speed and acceleration what's the difference between the two well you know this one is 150 amps so the the face-to-face current the total the total amp output on this one is way way higher than this and it's also very customizable like I can can again like tune everything I can't tune anything on this controls your Bluetooth in work on this by no absolutely not so what how does what is it it's like a USB stick that you just plug in down on the controller yeah it's just a little USB stick plugs down here it's a bluetooth adapter well I mean I can use my iPhone just iOS Android and plug the Bluetooth adapter in and then I can go in and change a lot like I can change I can change like the signal voltage and that basically changes the sensitivity on the throttle okay right so if I increase like this or is it like the position yeah it's like front mid in full okay you can adjust all of that so I can like increase the voltage signal at the beginning you know that's actually something I'm not sure how mine works but I think it's the same I think I have the same setup you do so do you know anything about is this like a linear voltage curve or any idea I don't know man you just you just know that you can change the sensitivity I guess in the app and then well they will have a range like like mac signal voltage like 4.8 volts I think I can't remember and you can increase that so so rather than to get here for thematic max multi-cell just here okay so the torques like right there right yeah it's a little bit nicer yeah this one you said you have trouble keeping the wheel down on yeah I have to like like when I jump out into traffic and I don't necessarily want a wheelie yeah I have to lay over the front of the bike to keep the front end from popping out oh we talked about this - I'll mention this since we're talking about the bar area of the bike so when you were building this I said you know you might want to consider it like 800 watt bars they feel really good because 800 wide bars I mean on starting it doesn't know I do a lot of mountain biking like downhill mountain biking and it gives you really good control over the bike but you have a different consideration in Taiwan and Taipei yeah it's like getting killed by taxis well you know that the one of the main lanes of traffic for bikes and scooters is between the cars inside of the road yeah so I noticed with the bars like over 750 it's really tight you can't fit mirrors so I caught him down these are about seven ten okay yeah yeah it's more like a like a motorcycle bar with this time I you've got thirty five-millimeter bars rental apex thirty five-millimeter stem the stem is 33 millimeters now another thing I did with this bike okay I changed the riding position okay on this bike I had I used to have a Hope stem and it was I think it was 5050 or elevators yeah so you're way out then dude it was way out and way down yeah the rise on the bar was lower - it was maybe 50 only 15 or 20 millimeter this bar has a 35-millimeter rise that one has a 40 millimeter rise yeah after I crashed that one and rebuilt it I rebuilt it like this so what was what was the do you want to go into any details on the crash like what happened I was riding too fast okay went around I was going around a turn too fast down there yeah the police work will ride and I just just I just couldn't keep it on the path and I went onto the grass and I had to lay it down okay I ended up bending the bars i trashed the front rim the stem so you just laid it down on the grass at speed I guess yeah it's you know I was going pretty fast actually I was doing about 40 kilometers an hour so anyway so go back we were talking about before I changed the riding position and once I once I shifted my way up and back yeah totally changed the whole dynamic of how the bike rides it's nice I like so the way I ride really slack frame mountain bikes yeah where the front end will especially once you sit on it you compress the suspension the front end sits pretty high it's almost like a chopper yeah but it's nice because it gives you a lot of control yeah especially for anything downhill yeah but it also gives you more room to bail off the bike if you really need to I think for downhill you don't want to be so over the bars yeah definitely because I mean you're all you pointed down so it's just waiting to send you over the bars and when I take this one out before the way it was set up my back after like maybe one hour of riding it my back was killing me yeah so it's more this one that's why this one's a little more wheely happy I shifted the way back so what do you have I see the Fox 40 fork I guess for viewers who aren't familiar with bike parts this is a was gonna be most of them I think but this is one of the top like premier forks for any for a downhill bike especially but you've got it on what is effectively like a sort of a motocross bike almost at this point yeah I would say this bike is pretty much set up like a supermoto bike yeah great supermoto I got a good deal on them they're great Forks I can't say anything bad about them there's so many adjustability options like yeah I tuned the SAG the rebound high speed and low speed compression it's really really a nice fork how about the rear shock I see the coil I recognized from last year's or at least is similar to that one it's not the same rear shock is a BOS stoy it's very very light and very strong and I like it a lot better than that can create that double barrel coil it's this one is it's a little more stiff and springy and this one it tends to be a little bit more bouncy and you're on the cool bikes what was the frame cool back 76 76 for the breaks now when I when you rode this bike last year yeah head head head hope Tech they've had hope Tech three ephors okay I remember them there's a big difference between a four and v4 man seriously I didn't think at the beginning I didn't know that much yeah and when I got the v4 it's with 230 203 millimeter vented rotors man what a difference those the e this boy cousin these are nicer owners dude they're really really nice they disappear dissipate heat so so much like look at this you see this is just a regular yeah that's just a mountain bike rotor it's just a hope floating rotor and this thing gets red hot yeah and they start howling have you ever touched one of those like on your leg when you're getting awful it'll burn you it'll burn it hurts bad and it's like dude they make this crazy loud howling noise when they get too wet r22 too hot yeah I decided the brakes was sort of like the weak point of this bike yeah yeah yeah so I got V fours on this one do you have a regen on here yeah I got slide is it something you can control or what I have I don't have now I don't recommend this currently I don't have any brakes answers on this bike okay okay brake cutoff sensors yeah those are key they're not only do they are they just for safety right so the bike can't fly away yeah but they're also good for the controller and the motor you won't so right now if you brake you can still throttle okay all right yes and you can damage the controller and motor by doing it yeah blow FETs on the controller maybe so basically taking what you do for your day job and just blowing up MOSFET six I found a different thing yeah but so so be careful yeah yeah I will put break sensors on it I have these nice ones that I can put on the whole breaks I just have to install them for mine Irana it's a separate switch right here it's almost like a dropper switch and you can break up front or you can push with the thumb on a separate lever it's nice because then if you're running low on battery and you want to make sure all right so it regen break is just regenerative braking and if you're low on battery and you want to just only use regen yeah you can try and get some back yeah I think on mine I get about 10% back over the life of a the charge yeah it's not bad I think if you if you crank the amps on it you know you're like yeah but it kicks in and wants to throw you over the bars yeah I've gone as high as like 70 amps on this one on the region and I couldn't handle it it was like it's good diary me out yeah but that was my biggest concern when I first got my bike was can't I stop in time if a car in front of me you know slams the brakes and with the regen you can definitely stop in time you can almost just use the region yeah brake and it saves a lot of wear and tear on your brake rotor oh ah yeah and you know these can be unlocked to 200 amps oh man and there's there's some really crazy dudes out there I mean I'm nothing compared to some of the ebike guys there's some really like like in the overclocking industry right you have the legends and that guy's been around forever yeah any bike industry has that - yeah there's some badasses out there have you done any modding yet outside of component swap like have you customised yet no nothing so I know it's I know you can yeah you can do like a lot of these controllers you can do like sense mods on them right yeah I just need to trick the controller into thinking the power it's using is less just like a shot resistor much exactly seriously yeah there's a mod for this one yeah some more Nvidia shunt resistor mod yeah what um for the bike computer that you're running so UKC TFT display okay very nice what information do you get on it yeah and just don't touch the throttle a lot dude it has everything man it has it has you know your power level it has your speed has trip function it has your assist levels it has the battery voltage level oh nice yeah yeah so the battery on I think the voltage it kind of drops over time right or now okay on a full charge this one will be around 84 volts okay and then as I'm riding I see it you know 82 volts 81 volts and when you hit it you will get voltage drop under load okay that's normal is it is it V troop or is it a different thing like it just it just drops when you it's it's when I first saw it I thought something wasn't right but I did a little bit of research and the voltage drop is no under load now if it's not under load like you have it on a stand you really shouldn't see voltage drop that's a nice display yeah it's very nice dude man it's got like an RPM like little tab oh you have a clock on your it's cool mine doesn't mine's got everything it does data logging it does GPS okay what doesn't have a frame yeah for the frame we were talking about this before the camera went on but originally you didn't like the gauge of the is this aluminum I'm guessing it is yeah but did you end up liking it after all when I first got it I was you know compared to this this frame it's got a very thick steel on it this is an Aliexpress yeah basically this whole bike is Chinese except for the component frame controller motor everything right when I first got it I was like wow you know the gauge of Steel is so thin and see this rear shock mount I actually changed it okay because the one that Kubiak's has is really thin though and I thought you know that's the worst part of the bike to be uncertain about right because yeah dude bad shears off yeah and not only that but you want you want your rear swingarm to stay true with the frame rails I don't they have all kinds of alignment issues with the brakes like this one brakes are always noisy on the back because it's not true it's not like 100% true but just Kubiak's frame I noticed it's very very straight very nice now I want to keep it that way right yeah you know from from repeated just constantly Li's and stuff I would imagine it will think you're gonna torque the frame over time it definitely so that's why I actually had this fabbed and put a put a thicker bracket where did you get this made at the same place as you use for your like KP stuff there's a place down the street Oh shop that I found just throwing some cash so did you did you give them a CAD file as you just tell them what you wanted and they I gave him the cool mix part I said make this buy thicker make it thicker cool yeah that's about it but but at first I wasn't happy with the frame but then after a while I really really liked it so much that I want to get a Q 140 now I love the Q on 40 it is wide though but it gives you it feels really stable huh you know it's speed your rear dropout width is it the same is it fifty-five gets the same okay I'm not positive but I think it is I I know there were a couple things I did on mine so thermal throttling is an issue I've run into we're in North Carolina in the summer I mean it's like here in the summer except there's a lot more like there's a lot of stop and go on that app I can tune the temperature on okay I can raise it mine's 135 it cuts off 135 C and then it starts to throttle at about 100 degrees Celsius so I actually did a plot over time will publish one day but of the speed fall offers the temperature yeah and I probably lose anywhere from like 6 to 8 miles an hour off the top speed with a significant temperature it's significant because when you cap out at 48 and all the roads are 45 you know once once you're down below 45 now you're slower than everything on the road so it's dangerous yeah right that's how I feel here it's like they don't want a bike's going over 25 km an hour here that's not even it's not safe very unsafe yeah when you got people zooming value at twice the speed yeah oh yeah because they're trying to get past here but if you if you keep up with traffic I feel like it's a lot safer um the other thing we didn't talk about is the Moto wheels that's a difference on this bike so this bike has 24 by 3 bicycle wheels they're lighter than these for sure yeah but they're not as strong I mean these are really strong um the wheels are where I'm the most paranoid with these types of bikes cuz like do something goes wrong with the wheel and you die you see this folks you see what's happening look carefully at those folks you mean on the bike I'm gonna ride we're both right it will switch on see how they're slightly bent yeah it's it's that that's what happens with these it's torqued yeah and I mean it's ok right but after a while the wheel goes out of true yeah but these are really really nice man these these moto wheels are something now the reason why I went with 18 is because 419 420 the wheels the tires selection is brutal yeah there are no good tires that you can buy I want something more like a sport bike tire so that's why I went with 18s and I know I reduced the rolling diameter of the wheels by a lot but with this much power it's okay mine's kind of weird I have a 19 in the back and a 26 in the front which is just how cool vice delivers it but it works well it's just it's the 26 that scares me because it's it's a mountain bike tire it's the the ply is like mountain bike ply it's not that thick yeah so everyone I have a 26 inch front wheel too if yeah if there's gonna be a blowout it's gonna be on a 26 and you know dude these tires they're very the sidewall and the way it's designed it's rated for a very high speed it's rated for faster than you'll go on it's not gonna blow out man yeah but these definitely could blow out again on the bike I'm gonna ride yeah one thing I'll bring this up before we take him out but on my on mine at home I tried installing a heatsink on the hub I mean you know this better than anyone but you know if you're buying a tantrum that's their whole pads come on Andrews Oh screw so right it's not so it's sticky tape or something so it's like they're like this far apart and then you'll put a screw through you know and to connect the two pieces and it's a throne pad that's one mil thick I used Romans also the whole thing just squeezes on it yeah so you some minus eight like Romans they're all pads on it but the problem is the actual source of the heats like way in there and it's already in a ferrofluid yeah so it's already liquid cooled it's by the time you got a pure they just don't do a lot like it it helps when I'm sitting idle out of stoplight it'll bring me down a couple degrees I did all like thermal testing just like in our reviews but when you're going like stop and go it doesn't do anything it's just I think you need to make someone KP cool and for he's like the ones I have that thing they're like this so I think the fins need to be like that to catch the wind right it should it should catch it yeah and cool it okay so that's gonna cap our our look at Vince's ebikes it's not quite computers but really it basically is it's it's all similar parts just on a different different chassis like real-world practical overclocking yeah right and I'm sure you're gonna be doing more of this by the time we're here next to oh yeah I should have another bike done by the time you guys get here again so if you want to see the original one from last year check on the GM Steve channel will link it below and I if I have extra footage from today it'll also go up on that channel it'll just be like riding footage we're not really gonna be able to talk while riding because the winds too strong but you'll get a pretty good feel for it there so thanks for joining me we can't shake hands I thought it's bad right now but uh yeah check out kay pees on their stuff I guess well I'll link your Instagram if you still use it cool and then tenpin cooling calm if you want computer stuff cool so subscribe for more we'll see you all next timehey everyone we're here for a different type of video now so we're still on Taiwan we're in Taipei and I'm joined by Ken Penn from EVGA he's the guy with his name on the video cards if you didn't know so one of the top overclockers in the world but there's something else that he works on outside of video cards and it's ebikes we did a video on the side channel last year about this bike actually yep so you walked me through we talked about the parts that won it I think if I remember correctly it went you were approaching 60 miles an hour nothing so they're really fast they're not like the pedal assist II bikes they're like full throttle electric motorcycle basically and I have one of these at home now too that I haven't actually really shown publicly so this will be a fun option for us to to introduce people to it before that this video is brought to you by Thermaltake stuff ram RGB memory available from 3000 hertz up to 40 400 megahertz an 8 gigabyte by 2 configurations the third will take tough Ram uses 10 addressable RGB LEDs for bright illumination and comes in both black and white kits of memory learn more at the link in the description below so you've got to you have this one that you just built yep and then this one that you've modified from last year I guess to get everyone up to speed on why these are cool so like I said they're they're throttled it's got basically a small computer on it and then do you want to walk through like like like we talked about before the the basics of any bike you got a hub motor you have a battery and you have a controller right right and then you have the controls that interact with the controller to run everything the main differences between these two bikes is mostly weight ah and this one actually has motorcycle wheels on it and this one has by 24 inch bicycle wheels yeah yeah big difference power wise this one has a hundred fifty amp controller whereas this one is using a hundred twenty amp controller this can the controller can really impact how the performance of the e bike for sure we should talk about don't be a dick yeah I mean we're gonna go screw around on a bike trail right now and there's no one outside there's really at this this is the best time of the day we picked a workday the middle of the day yeah I think you got to be responsible with these you can't be an idiot are you gonna ruin it for everybody yeah sometimes I see other guys riding scooters and sometimes II bikes like really really fast and that's not good man that's just gonna create a bunch of unnecessary loss right yeah it'll get it like banned from trails or whatever so we got to be really careful today and well I never speed around pedestrians if I see anybody I always slow down no matter what the only time I really get on it is when there's literally nobody else around so I'm even then obviously if if any of you are like I want to get one of these you should still ride within your limits definitely don't don't be an idiot you could have like an animal run across your path and like there's some wild dog trying to avoid it and you'll be done yeah be done you you should drive within your ability and don't don't be irresponsible on the trails yeah you know for sure on the trails at home i i mostly stay on roads but if i go on like a gravel road or something i mean as soon as i see people I just take it out a bicycle speed whenever I look up like eBay like videos on YouTube or something I always I see more and more guys riding on paths yeah bike paths really fast like by pedestrians and stuff and I really advise against that yeah I think ultimately you just have to think about what would you think if you're in the pedestrian right right you're not like well that guy's so cool no it's like there's a friggin man ya gonna kill me is dangerous man yeah and then they're gonna have all kinds of kinds of stupid ebike laws yeah it's not worth it yeah yeah at home I ride a cool bikes Q 140 are weird no you were thinking of getting that frame too well it has more battery capacity you can stuff a lot more battery in that and that's that's my bottleneck right now I found what this bike is the battery batteries are expensive to you big-time and very heavy big-time I think my battery I upgrade it to their maximum capacity cuz I just use it for commuting to and from work and then I'll go take it out on gravel trails and stuff I think that battery it last me I kept maybe like thirty miles at full speed nice I like 40 something yeah that's a decent range but that's like $1500 for that battery yep yeah very expensive man so what uh it's 72 volt right yeah yes 72 yeah what's your what's your difference and the use of the controller is 120 150 yeah so this this has the 72 volt battery 72 volt battery similar q s 205 rear hub motor the main difference is the controller this one has the Sabaton 70 to 150 150 F controller very very nuts what I I think I have a Q s motor on mine yeah QF this one is this controller on here is just a Chinese controller I don't even know I don't remember who makes it you just find on Aliexpress or something yeah okay totally yeah it was the easiest to get I just wanted to get something quick yeah start playing around with it but this controller is just blows this one away what's the in terms of speed I guess speed and acceleration what's the difference between the two well you know this one is 150 amps so the the face-to-face current the total the total amp output on this one is way way higher than this and it's also very customizable like I can can again like tune everything I can't tune anything on this controls your Bluetooth in work on this by no absolutely not so what how does what is it it's like a USB stick that you just plug in down on the controller yeah it's just a little USB stick plugs down here it's a bluetooth adapter well I mean I can use my iPhone just iOS Android and plug the Bluetooth adapter in and then I can go in and change a lot like I can change I can change like the signal voltage and that basically changes the sensitivity on the throttle okay right so if I increase like this or is it like the position yeah it's like front mid in full okay you can adjust all of that so I can like increase the voltage signal at the beginning you know that's actually something I'm not sure how mine works but I think it's the same I think I have the same setup you do so do you know anything about is this like a linear voltage curve or any idea I don't know man you just you just know that you can change the sensitivity I guess in the app and then well they will have a range like like mac signal voltage like 4.8 volts I think I can't remember and you can increase that so so rather than to get here for thematic max multi-cell just here okay so the torques like right there right yeah it's a little bit nicer yeah this one you said you have trouble keeping the wheel down on yeah I have to like like when I jump out into traffic and I don't necessarily want a wheelie yeah I have to lay over the front of the bike to keep the front end from popping out oh we talked about this - I'll mention this since we're talking about the bar area of the bike so when you were building this I said you know you might want to consider it like 800 watt bars they feel really good because 800 wide bars I mean on starting it doesn't know I do a lot of mountain biking like downhill mountain biking and it gives you really good control over the bike but you have a different consideration in Taiwan and Taipei yeah it's like getting killed by taxis well you know that the one of the main lanes of traffic for bikes and scooters is between the cars inside of the road yeah so I noticed with the bars like over 750 it's really tight you can't fit mirrors so I caught him down these are about seven ten okay yeah yeah it's more like a like a motorcycle bar with this time I you've got thirty five-millimeter bars rental apex thirty five-millimeter stem the stem is 33 millimeters now another thing I did with this bike okay I changed the riding position okay on this bike I had I used to have a Hope stem and it was I think it was 5050 or elevators yeah so you're way out then dude it was way out and way down yeah the rise on the bar was lower - it was maybe 50 only 15 or 20 millimeter this bar has a 35-millimeter rise that one has a 40 millimeter rise yeah after I crashed that one and rebuilt it I rebuilt it like this so what was what was the do you want to go into any details on the crash like what happened I was riding too fast okay went around I was going around a turn too fast down there yeah the police work will ride and I just just I just couldn't keep it on the path and I went onto the grass and I had to lay it down okay I ended up bending the bars i trashed the front rim the stem so you just laid it down on the grass at speed I guess yeah it's you know I was going pretty fast actually I was doing about 40 kilometers an hour so anyway so go back we were talking about before I changed the riding position and once I once I shifted my way up and back yeah totally changed the whole dynamic of how the bike rides it's nice I like so the way I ride really slack frame mountain bikes yeah where the front end will especially once you sit on it you compress the suspension the front end sits pretty high it's almost like a chopper yeah but it's nice because it gives you a lot of control yeah especially for anything downhill yeah but it also gives you more room to bail off the bike if you really need to I think for downhill you don't want to be so over the bars yeah definitely because I mean you're all you pointed down so it's just waiting to send you over the bars and when I take this one out before the way it was set up my back after like maybe one hour of riding it my back was killing me yeah so it's more this one that's why this one's a little more wheely happy I shifted the way back so what do you have I see the Fox 40 fork I guess for viewers who aren't familiar with bike parts this is a was gonna be most of them I think but this is one of the top like premier forks for any for a downhill bike especially but you've got it on what is effectively like a sort of a motocross bike almost at this point yeah I would say this bike is pretty much set up like a supermoto bike yeah great supermoto I got a good deal on them they're great Forks I can't say anything bad about them there's so many adjustability options like yeah I tuned the SAG the rebound high speed and low speed compression it's really really a nice fork how about the rear shock I see the coil I recognized from last year's or at least is similar to that one it's not the same rear shock is a BOS stoy it's very very light and very strong and I like it a lot better than that can create that double barrel coil it's this one is it's a little more stiff and springy and this one it tends to be a little bit more bouncy and you're on the cool bikes what was the frame cool back 76 76 for the breaks now when I when you rode this bike last year yeah head head head hope Tech they've had hope Tech three ephors okay I remember them there's a big difference between a four and v4 man seriously I didn't think at the beginning I didn't know that much yeah and when I got the v4 it's with 230 203 millimeter vented rotors man what a difference those the e this boy cousin these are nicer owners dude they're really really nice they disappear dissipate heat so so much like look at this you see this is just a regular yeah that's just a mountain bike rotor it's just a hope floating rotor and this thing gets red hot yeah and they start howling have you ever touched one of those like on your leg when you're getting awful it'll burn you it'll burn it hurts bad and it's like dude they make this crazy loud howling noise when they get too wet r22 too hot yeah I decided the brakes was sort of like the weak point of this bike yeah yeah yeah so I got V fours on this one do you have a regen on here yeah I got slide is it something you can control or what I have I don't have now I don't recommend this currently I don't have any brakes answers on this bike okay okay brake cutoff sensors yeah those are key they're not only do they are they just for safety right so the bike can't fly away yeah but they're also good for the controller and the motor you won't so right now if you brake you can still throttle okay all right yes and you can damage the controller and motor by doing it yeah blow FETs on the controller maybe so basically taking what you do for your day job and just blowing up MOSFET six I found a different thing yeah but so so be careful yeah yeah I will put break sensors on it I have these nice ones that I can put on the whole breaks I just have to install them for mine Irana it's a separate switch right here it's almost like a dropper switch and you can break up front or you can push with the thumb on a separate lever it's nice because then if you're running low on battery and you want to make sure all right so it regen break is just regenerative braking and if you're low on battery and you want to just only use regen yeah you can try and get some back yeah I think on mine I get about 10% back over the life of a the charge yeah it's not bad I think if you if you crank the amps on it you know you're like yeah but it kicks in and wants to throw you over the bars yeah I've gone as high as like 70 amps on this one on the region and I couldn't handle it it was like it's good diary me out yeah but that was my biggest concern when I first got my bike was can't I stop in time if a car in front of me you know slams the brakes and with the regen you can definitely stop in time you can almost just use the region yeah brake and it saves a lot of wear and tear on your brake rotor oh ah yeah and you know these can be unlocked to 200 amps oh man and there's there's some really crazy dudes out there I mean I'm nothing compared to some of the ebike guys there's some really like like in the overclocking industry right you have the legends and that guy's been around forever yeah any bike industry has that - yeah there's some badasses out there have you done any modding yet outside of component swap like have you customised yet no nothing so I know it's I know you can yeah you can do like a lot of these controllers you can do like sense mods on them right yeah I just need to trick the controller into thinking the power it's using is less just like a shot resistor much exactly seriously yeah there's a mod for this one yeah some more Nvidia shunt resistor mod yeah what um for the bike computer that you're running so UKC TFT display okay very nice what information do you get on it yeah and just don't touch the throttle a lot dude it has everything man it has it has you know your power level it has your speed has trip function it has your assist levels it has the battery voltage level oh nice yeah yeah so the battery on I think the voltage it kind of drops over time right or now okay on a full charge this one will be around 84 volts okay and then as I'm riding I see it you know 82 volts 81 volts and when you hit it you will get voltage drop under load okay that's normal is it is it V troop or is it a different thing like it just it just drops when you it's it's when I first saw it I thought something wasn't right but I did a little bit of research and the voltage drop is no under load now if it's not under load like you have it on a stand you really shouldn't see voltage drop that's a nice display yeah it's very nice dude man it's got like an RPM like little tab oh you have a clock on your it's cool mine doesn't mine's got everything it does data logging it does GPS okay what doesn't have a frame yeah for the frame we were talking about this before the camera went on but originally you didn't like the gauge of the is this aluminum I'm guessing it is yeah but did you end up liking it after all when I first got it I was you know compared to this this frame it's got a very thick steel on it this is an Aliexpress yeah basically this whole bike is Chinese except for the component frame controller motor everything right when I first got it I was like wow you know the gauge of Steel is so thin and see this rear shock mount I actually changed it okay because the one that Kubiak's has is really thin though and I thought you know that's the worst part of the bike to be uncertain about right because yeah dude bad shears off yeah and not only that but you want you want your rear swingarm to stay true with the frame rails I don't they have all kinds of alignment issues with the brakes like this one brakes are always noisy on the back because it's not true it's not like 100% true but just Kubiak's frame I noticed it's very very straight very nice now I want to keep it that way right yeah you know from from repeated just constantly Li's and stuff I would imagine it will think you're gonna torque the frame over time it definitely so that's why I actually had this fabbed and put a put a thicker bracket where did you get this made at the same place as you use for your like KP stuff there's a place down the street Oh shop that I found just throwing some cash so did you did you give them a CAD file as you just tell them what you wanted and they I gave him the cool mix part I said make this buy thicker make it thicker cool yeah that's about it but but at first I wasn't happy with the frame but then after a while I really really liked it so much that I want to get a Q 140 now I love the Q on 40 it is wide though but it gives you it feels really stable huh you know it's speed your rear dropout width is it the same is it fifty-five gets the same okay I'm not positive but I think it is I I know there were a couple things I did on mine so thermal throttling is an issue I've run into we're in North Carolina in the summer I mean it's like here in the summer except there's a lot more like there's a lot of stop and go on that app I can tune the temperature on okay I can raise it mine's 135 it cuts off 135 C and then it starts to throttle at about 100 degrees Celsius so I actually did a plot over time will publish one day but of the speed fall offers the temperature yeah and I probably lose anywhere from like 6 to 8 miles an hour off the top speed with a significant temperature it's significant because when you cap out at 48 and all the roads are 45 you know once once you're down below 45 now you're slower than everything on the road so it's dangerous yeah right that's how I feel here it's like they don't want a bike's going over 25 km an hour here that's not even it's not safe very unsafe yeah when you got people zooming value at twice the speed yeah oh yeah because they're trying to get past here but if you if you keep up with traffic I feel like it's a lot safer um the other thing we didn't talk about is the Moto wheels that's a difference on this bike so this bike has 24 by 3 bicycle wheels they're lighter than these for sure yeah but they're not as strong I mean these are really strong um the wheels are where I'm the most paranoid with these types of bikes cuz like do something goes wrong with the wheel and you die you see this folks you see what's happening look carefully at those folks you mean on the bike I'm gonna ride we're both right it will switch on see how they're slightly bent yeah it's it's that that's what happens with these it's torqued yeah and I mean it's ok right but after a while the wheel goes out of true yeah but these are really really nice man these these moto wheels are something now the reason why I went with 18 is because 419 420 the wheels the tires selection is brutal yeah there are no good tires that you can buy I want something more like a sport bike tire so that's why I went with 18s and I know I reduced the rolling diameter of the wheels by a lot but with this much power it's okay mine's kind of weird I have a 19 in the back and a 26 in the front which is just how cool vice delivers it but it works well it's just it's the 26 that scares me because it's it's a mountain bike tire it's the the ply is like mountain bike ply it's not that thick yeah so everyone I have a 26 inch front wheel too if yeah if there's gonna be a blowout it's gonna be on a 26 and you know dude these tires they're very the sidewall and the way it's designed it's rated for a very high speed it's rated for faster than you'll go on it's not gonna blow out man yeah but these definitely could blow out again on the bike I'm gonna ride yeah one thing I'll bring this up before we take him out but on my on mine at home I tried installing a heatsink on the hub I mean you know this better than anyone but you know if you're buying a tantrum that's their whole pads come on Andrews Oh screw so right it's not so it's sticky tape or something so it's like they're like this far apart and then you'll put a screw through you know and to connect the two pieces and it's a throne pad that's one mil thick I used Romans also the whole thing just squeezes on it yeah so you some minus eight like Romans they're all pads on it but the problem is the actual source of the heats like way in there and it's already in a ferrofluid yeah so it's already liquid cooled it's by the time you got a pure they just don't do a lot like it it helps when I'm sitting idle out of stoplight it'll bring me down a couple degrees I did all like thermal testing just like in our reviews but when you're going like stop and go it doesn't do anything it's just I think you need to make someone KP cool and for he's like the ones I have that thing they're like this so I think the fins need to be like that to catch the wind right it should it should catch it yeah and cool it okay so that's gonna cap our our look at Vince's ebikes it's not quite computers but really it basically is it's it's all similar parts just on a different different chassis like real-world practical overclocking yeah right and I'm sure you're gonna be doing more of this by the time we're here next to oh yeah I should have another bike done by the time you guys get here again so if you want to see the original one from last year check on the GM Steve channel will link it below and I if I have extra footage from today it'll also go up on that channel it'll just be like riding footage we're not really gonna be able to talk while riding because the winds too strong but you'll get a pretty good feel for it there so thanks for joining me we can't shake hands I thought it's bad right now but uh yeah check out kay pees on their stuff I guess well I'll link your Instagram if you still use it cool and then tenpin cooling calm if you want computer stuff cool so subscribe for more we'll see you all next time\n"

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