YouTube CEO resigns _ The Vergecast

The Departure of Susan Wojcicki: What's Next for YouTube?

Susan Wojcicki, one of Google's most influential and longest-serving executives, has announced her departure from YouTube. The news comes at a time when the platform is facing increasing competition from TikTok, and Google is grappling with the challenges of adapting to changing consumer behavior.

For Wojcicki, who has been at the helm of YouTube for nearly a decade, leaving the platform may seem like an unusual move. However, it's worth noting that she has been an integral part of the company's culture and leadership team for much longer. Her departure is likely a strategic decision, one that allows her to pursue new opportunities and challenges within Google.

Wojcicki's tenure at YouTube was marked by significant growth and innovation. She oversaw the launch of several key features, including YouTube Premium, YouTube Music, and the platform's expanded focus on video content creation. Under her leadership, YouTube became a gold standard for creators, offering a lucrative platform for artists and content makers to build their audiences.

However, with great success comes great pressure. Wojcicki's departure may be seen as a response to the challenges posed by TikTok, which has been aggressively expanding its reach and user base. The platform's algorithm-driven approach to content curation and discovery has proven to be a significant threat to YouTube's dominance in the social media space.

For Google, which relies heavily on advertising revenue, the battle for online attention is a pressing concern. The company's search engine business, in particular, is under threat from the rise of chatbots and voice assistants, which have the potential to disrupt the way we interact with technology.

In a blog post announcing her departure, Wojcicki acknowledged the challenges facing YouTube and Google as a whole. "The world is changing fast," she wrote. "I'm excited about what the future holds for our industry and I look forward to seeing what's next."

Wojcicki's departure has sparked speculation about who will take over as head of YouTube. Rumors have circulated about several potential candidates, including former Google executive Kent Walker, who is currently leading the company's lobbying efforts in Washington.

However, it's worth noting that Wojcicki's role at Google was never solely focused on YouTube. She played a key part in shaping the company's overall strategy and direction, working closely with CEO Sundar Pichai to drive innovation and growth across the organization.

The departure of Susan Wojcicki marks a significant shift for Google, one that reflects the changing landscape of online media and technology. As the company looks to the future, it will be interesting to see how YouTube evolves under new leadership and what challenges it faces in the years ahead.

Google's Culture of Risk-Aversion

In recent months, Google has been grappling with a series of internal issues that have raised questions about the company's culture and values. A report by an ex-Google engineer, which was published earlier this week, offered a scathing critique of the company's approach to innovation and risk-taking.

The report, which described a workplace plagued by dysfunction and infighting, suggested that Google's leadership team had failed to address these issues, instead relying on its traditional strengths in advertising revenue and search dominance. The report was widely seen as a wake-up call for the company, highlighting the need for fundamental change if it is to remain competitive in an increasingly rapidly changing world.

Tony Fadel, who wrote the book "Build" last year, offered a similar critique of Google's culture in his own work. He described a workplace that was dominated by loud personalities and a lack of collaboration, where ideas were often suppressed or ignored.

Fadel's account is consistent with reports from current and former Google employees, who have described a workplace characterized by infighting and power struggles between different teams and departments. The company's leadership team has faced criticism for its handling of these issues, which some argue has contributed to a culture of fear and siloed decision-making.

In response to the criticism, Google has promised to address these issues through a series of reforms aimed at promoting greater collaboration and innovation across the organization. However, it remains to be seen whether these efforts will be successful in reversing the trend towards a more dysfunctional workplace culture.

The Role of YouTube in Google's Strategy

YouTube is an integral part of Google's strategy, representing one of the company's most valuable assets and growth areas. The platform has become a major driver of revenue for Google, with its advertising business generating billions of dollars in revenue each year.

Under Wojcicki's leadership, YouTube has expanded its offerings to include new features such as YouTube Premium, YouTube Music, and a renewed focus on video content creation. These efforts have helped to drive growth and increase user engagement on the platform, cementing its position as one of the leading social media platforms in the world.

However, with TikTok emerging as a major competitor, Google is facing increasing pressure to innovate and adapt. The company's strategy for YouTube will be critical in determining how it responds to this challenge and whether it can maintain its dominance in the online video space.

The Future of Online Video

The rise of TikTok has highlighted the changing nature of online video consumption, with younger generations increasingly turning to shorter-form content and mobile-first platforms. This trend is likely to continue, driven by the proliferation of smartphones and social media apps that cater to these habits.

For Google, which relies heavily on advertising revenue, this shift presents a significant challenge. The company must find ways to adapt its offerings to meet changing consumer behavior and ensure that it remains relevant in an increasingly crowded online landscape.

One potential response is for YouTube to focus on longer-form content, such as documentaries and series, which are more appealing to older generations and offer a more premium viewing experience. This approach could help to differentiate the platform from TikTok, which has built its reputation on short-form video and mobile-first discovery.

Another strategy for Google might be to expand its offerings beyond traditional video content, incorporating augmented reality, virtual reality, and other immersive formats into its platform. By doing so, it can attract new users and offer a more comprehensive online experience that meets changing consumer demands.

Ultimately, the future of online video will depend on how effectively companies like YouTube respond to these changes and adapt their offerings to meet shifting consumer habits. As Google continues to navigate this rapidly evolving landscape, one thing is clear: the stakes are high, and the outcome will have significant implications for the company's growth prospects and reputation in the years ahead.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enYoutube CEO Susan will just keep stepping down after nine years of CEO of YouTube She's Like A Major Force in this world yes she took YouTube which was like not a great business she's one of the earliest Google employees she took you to which is not a great business and turned it into this absolute Powerhouse absolutely Goliath it is the it remains I think the gold standard for every Creator there's lots of creators on Twitter and other places today saying you know we have our complaints about YouTube and boy do they have their complaints about YouTube but it is the platform that treats us the best right I think Mark has had a tweet that's like just look at compare like YouTube has Creator plaques and events and monetization schedules and Reps and then he was like Instagram nothing Tick Tock nothing Twitter nothing like um so YouTube is a Powerhouse so kind of amazing she's stepping down there's a little bit of color uh Mark Bergen who's a great reporter um at Bloomberg has been tweeting a little bit of color uh no she has like she's dipped in the past few months no one's really seen her yeah no one's really understood this transition oh that's not great um but it has been nine years and she's being replaced by her own hand-picked Deputy Neil Mohan who was the chief product officer of YouTube but now importantly not becoming the CEO of YouTube he's becoming the senior vice president of YouTube audience oh interesting that's that's some org chart you know how I'm Wizardry I was about to say this like this like piqued you huh you were like oh yeah there's there's obviously some drama here yeah it's not a lot of drama because I know Neil Neil has been on decoder many times I just actually just talked to Neil after they did the Sunday Ticket deal for YouTube TV he was very happy he won um I don't think you're going to see a lot of change between Susan O'Neill like they were pretty locked up uh YouTube actually really interesting or chart thing Neil head of product YouTube's content moderation and trust and safety reports to him is the head of product weird because they've built it as a product they think it's a product Cape this is my whole thing about content moderation is the product it's built into YouTube it is a product okay it doesn't report to like legal or Mark Zuckerberg or whatever it is right just mark just that part of YouTube Mark handles no I just like at Facebook at the end of the day like Mark made a bunch of decisions right like everything goes up to Bart yeah this one was like it's product and Susan made a bunch of those decisions too um but it's it's always just like one of the more unique parts of YouTube structure and now he's in charge yeah do you think he he didn't get the title because like she was an early employee of Google she put a lot of time and energy into Google for years it made sense to make her CEO and now the structures Everything's changed it makes sense you just have that person Direct have that person report directly to Sundar and like that's it yeah I don't know I mean again my I love an orchard conversation yeah um she was the CEO of YouTube okay before Sundar pashai became CEO of Google right so there's Larry and Sergey they start Google in her garage she's early early um she becomes the CEO of YouTube and then they're like we're Larry Page is like we're dipping screw this we're just gonna do flying car startups whatever it is they do sooner as the CEO of Google so she predated Sundar as the CEO of YouTube before he became the CEO of Google and then he became the CEO of alphabet and so she reported to him when he became CEO of alphabet uh no CF Google so YouTube is a weird thing it's part of Google which is part of alphabet but it's still part of Google but it's still YouTube but it's it but it's its own little island okay it's very confusing super confusing so now Neil is in charge again you can go listen to many decoder episodes with Neil Moon he's smart um he's got a lot of ideas he will not answer when YouTube TV will be in 4k just very good please answer sometimes I hit the the brick wall of someone's media training on your coder and that's the wall found it there it is I bounce right off and try again anyone you ask what about YouTube TV and 4K they're like no yeah the just the shades come down yeah he's like I I don't have an answer but no um he when we talked about uh when they did the Sunday Ticket deal I was like all right you're gonna do football in 4k like you had to know this conversation you volunteered to talk to me yeah it has to he had he was cracked and he was like I can't ask that question so who's prep to say that uh one time this is true one time I just sent him an email watching the NBA Finals sponsored by YouTube TV and I was like why don't you just pay to do this in 4k and have it exclusive and he was just like yeah it's a good idea goodbye you have been a bad thing I'm hoping to talk to Neil soon about his plans I guess I suspect things will be let's say these are two people who worked in lockstep for many many years yeah whatever Neil's plans were were Susan's plans for a long time but it is fascinating that if this I think for Google the threats are all over the place yes right there's whatever you think of the Bing threat it is a real threat it wiped a hundred billion dollars off its market cap last week yeah the idea that search will change not just because people might switch to Bing because they want to bang the robot but Tick-Tock and but they're spending their time on Tick Tock they're using search there and then what chat GPT has really done is the cost to generate an infinite amount of mediocre text is now zero so Google is being flooded with garbage right and they've got to sort that out too yeah and so like that's a big problem for Google and then next and then YouTube is fine it's sold a gold standard for creators but it has to fend off Tick Tock it has to create new monetization models for creators it has to it the most exciting part of YouTube is its cable network yeah it's weird cable system like YouTube TV that's weird but also it is exciting and like when is the 4K coming yeah that's all I want to know yeah come on it's an interesting timing for her to to make this move I think not only because of the length of time that she's been with YouTube with Google and it has been doing all these things you know and now they are facing these problems I find it interesting and and I don't think that these things are directly related because it sounds it feels like this is something that has been in the works for at least a little while and as you said the she and Neil are kind of on the same page as terms of what they're doing but it's interesting that she is leaving as Sergey and Larry are suddenly seemingly retaking active roles in the company and she's probably the person there who has known them the longest or I mean certainly the person there who has known them the longest and now that they're back suddenly she's out the door yeah it's unclear how much they're back so there's the report that Google had called The Code Red about chat Bots and all this stuff and then I I think Alex Heath reported in command line they were back because Google has never had layoffs before so if there were going to be layoffs they want us to be in the building part of that process it's a big shock to Google's culture there was a blog post uh this week from an ex-googler looking through the show notes pretty devastating takedown of Google's culture overall right and how it's it's basically a culture that avoids risks and is buoyed by the ad printing the ad money printing machine of Google Search and now the company needs to invent new things and chart New Paths and be what people think Google is and they are struggling to do it I thought that was interesting because Tony Fidel his book last year was it called build I think there's a big chunk of that book where he's like I got nest and then I go over to Google and it's going to be great and then everything falls apart yeah I don't know anybody who's madder at Google than 25 and it was like a really like it felt like kind of um foreshadowing for what we're starting to see this year where he was like I saw all of this dysfunction it was constant it's always the loudest person in the room wins it's always open only it's very specific loud people nobody is ever talking to each other especially in the ways they need to and so like all of that dysfunction it feels like it's starting to come to a head and it makes sense for Susan to be like you know what I got my bag I'm gonna retire I'm gonna go do my own thing I love that for her yeah like I said incredible Run YouTube is the platform it is many reasons to criticize you too on any day some YouTuber is getting their wings and making the video where they complain about YouTube yes and that is the beginning of the true that's like when you become a YouTuber is when you make the video complaining about being demonetized or some other or the algorithm Banning or whatever it is I can't wait to do that for the vergecast that's when you know you're a professional user and I'm like I've said this to Neil I'm like this is a thing he's like yeah it's weird like they know that this is part of the the cycle with YouTube and they they have this competition with Tick Tock they have to fend off so we'll see I I I make I'm gonna ask to have Neil come back on one of our shows and talk about his plan soon but I think it's it's worth noting that right now YouTube is the strongest business I think at Google in terms of just what it represents to people and how important it is to people but it is still under threatenedYoutube CEO Susan will just keep stepping down after nine years of CEO of YouTube She's Like A Major Force in this world yes she took YouTube which was like not a great business she's one of the earliest Google employees she took you to which is not a great business and turned it into this absolute Powerhouse absolutely Goliath it is the it remains I think the gold standard for every Creator there's lots of creators on Twitter and other places today saying you know we have our complaints about YouTube and boy do they have their complaints about YouTube but it is the platform that treats us the best right I think Mark has had a tweet that's like just look at compare like YouTube has Creator plaques and events and monetization schedules and Reps and then he was like Instagram nothing Tick Tock nothing Twitter nothing like um so YouTube is a Powerhouse so kind of amazing she's stepping down there's a little bit of color uh Mark Bergen who's a great reporter um at Bloomberg has been tweeting a little bit of color uh no she has like she's dipped in the past few months no one's really seen her yeah no one's really understood this transition oh that's not great um but it has been nine years and she's being replaced by her own hand-picked Deputy Neil Mohan who was the chief product officer of YouTube but now importantly not becoming the CEO of YouTube he's becoming the senior vice president of YouTube audience oh interesting that's that's some org chart you know how I'm Wizardry I was about to say this like this like piqued you huh you were like oh yeah there's there's obviously some drama here yeah it's not a lot of drama because I know Neil Neil has been on decoder many times I just actually just talked to Neil after they did the Sunday Ticket deal for YouTube TV he was very happy he won um I don't think you're going to see a lot of change between Susan O'Neill like they were pretty locked up uh YouTube actually really interesting or chart thing Neil head of product YouTube's content moderation and trust and safety reports to him is the head of product weird because they've built it as a product they think it's a product Cape this is my whole thing about content moderation is the product it's built into YouTube it is a product okay it doesn't report to like legal or Mark Zuckerberg or whatever it is right just mark just that part of YouTube Mark handles no I just like at Facebook at the end of the day like Mark made a bunch of decisions right like everything goes up to Bart yeah this one was like it's product and Susan made a bunch of those decisions too um but it's it's always just like one of the more unique parts of YouTube structure and now he's in charge yeah do you think he he didn't get the title because like she was an early employee of Google she put a lot of time and energy into Google for years it made sense to make her CEO and now the structures Everything's changed it makes sense you just have that person Direct have that person report directly to Sundar and like that's it yeah I don't know I mean again my I love an orchard conversation yeah um she was the CEO of YouTube okay before Sundar pashai became CEO of Google right so there's Larry and Sergey they start Google in her garage she's early early um she becomes the CEO of YouTube and then they're like we're Larry Page is like we're dipping screw this we're just gonna do flying car startups whatever it is they do sooner as the CEO of Google so she predated Sundar as the CEO of YouTube before he became the CEO of Google and then he became the CEO of alphabet and so she reported to him when he became CEO of alphabet uh no CF Google so YouTube is a weird thing it's part of Google which is part of alphabet but it's still part of Google but it's still YouTube but it's it but it's its own little island okay it's very confusing super confusing so now Neil is in charge again you can go listen to many decoder episodes with Neil Moon he's smart um he's got a lot of ideas he will not answer when YouTube TV will be in 4k just very good please answer sometimes I hit the the brick wall of someone's media training on your coder and that's the wall found it there it is I bounce right off and try again anyone you ask what about YouTube TV and 4K they're like no yeah the just the shades come down yeah he's like I I don't have an answer but no um he when we talked about uh when they did the Sunday Ticket deal I was like all right you're gonna do football in 4k like you had to know this conversation you volunteered to talk to me yeah it has to he had he was cracked and he was like I can't ask that question so who's prep to say that uh one time this is true one time I just sent him an email watching the NBA Finals sponsored by YouTube TV and I was like why don't you just pay to do this in 4k and have it exclusive and he was just like yeah it's a good idea goodbye you have been a bad thing I'm hoping to talk to Neil soon about his plans I guess I suspect things will be let's say these are two people who worked in lockstep for many many years yeah whatever Neil's plans were were Susan's plans for a long time but it is fascinating that if this I think for Google the threats are all over the place yes right there's whatever you think of the Bing threat it is a real threat it wiped a hundred billion dollars off its market cap last week yeah the idea that search will change not just because people might switch to Bing because they want to bang the robot but Tick-Tock and but they're spending their time on Tick Tock they're using search there and then what chat GPT has really done is the cost to generate an infinite amount of mediocre text is now zero so Google is being flooded with garbage right and they've got to sort that out too yeah and so like that's a big problem for Google and then next and then YouTube is fine it's sold a gold standard for creators but it has to fend off Tick Tock it has to create new monetization models for creators it has to it the most exciting part of YouTube is its cable network yeah it's weird cable system like YouTube TV that's weird but also it is exciting and like when is the 4K coming yeah that's all I want to know yeah come on it's an interesting timing for her to to make this move I think not only because of the length of time that she's been with YouTube with Google and it has been doing all these things you know and now they are facing these problems I find it interesting and and I don't think that these things are directly related because it sounds it feels like this is something that has been in the works for at least a little while and as you said the she and Neil are kind of on the same page as terms of what they're doing but it's interesting that she is leaving as Sergey and Larry are suddenly seemingly retaking active roles in the company and she's probably the person there who has known them the longest or I mean certainly the person there who has known them the longest and now that they're back suddenly she's out the door yeah it's unclear how much they're back so there's the report that Google had called The Code Red about chat Bots and all this stuff and then I I think Alex Heath reported in command line they were back because Google has never had layoffs before so if there were going to be layoffs they want us to be in the building part of that process it's a big shock to Google's culture there was a blog post uh this week from an ex-googler looking through the show notes pretty devastating takedown of Google's culture overall right and how it's it's basically a culture that avoids risks and is buoyed by the ad printing the ad money printing machine of Google Search and now the company needs to invent new things and chart New Paths and be what people think Google is and they are struggling to do it I thought that was interesting because Tony Fidel his book last year was it called build I think there's a big chunk of that book where he's like I got nest and then I go over to Google and it's going to be great and then everything falls apart yeah I don't know anybody who's madder at Google than 25 and it was like a really like it felt like kind of um foreshadowing for what we're starting to see this year where he was like I saw all of this dysfunction it was constant it's always the loudest person in the room wins it's always open only it's very specific loud people nobody is ever talking to each other especially in the ways they need to and so like all of that dysfunction it feels like it's starting to come to a head and it makes sense for Susan to be like you know what I got my bag I'm gonna retire I'm gonna go do my own thing I love that for her yeah like I said incredible Run YouTube is the platform it is many reasons to criticize you too on any day some YouTuber is getting their wings and making the video where they complain about YouTube yes and that is the beginning of the true that's like when you become a YouTuber is when you make the video complaining about being demonetized or some other or the algorithm Banning or whatever it is I can't wait to do that for the vergecast that's when you know you're a professional user and I'm like I've said this to Neil I'm like this is a thing he's like yeah it's weird like they know that this is part of the the cycle with YouTube and they they have this competition with Tick Tock they have to fend off so we'll see I I I make I'm gonna ask to have Neil come back on one of our shows and talk about his plan soon but I think it's it's worth noting that right now YouTube is the strongest business I think at Google in terms of just what it represents to people and how important it is to people but it is still under threatened\n"