Intel vs. AMD value - No contest

The Core i7 and Ryzen 9 chips are two high-performance options from Intel and AMD that are vying for attention on the market. The Core i7 is a flagship processor from Intel, boasting six cores and twelve threads, along with a powerful turbo boost of up to 5.0 gigahertz. However, this chip comes at a hefty price tag, which is roughly $100 higher than its AMD counterpart.

On the other hand, the Ryzen 9 processor offers similar performance to the Core i7, but at a significantly lower cost. The Core i7's performance in gaming workloads at 1440p is nearly identical to the Ryzen 9, making it a tough sell for buyers who are looking for a powerful processor without breaking the bank.

One of the main differences between the two processors is the inclusion of a cooler with the AMD offering. This can save buyers around $50, as they won't need to purchase an aftermarket cooler separately. Additionally, the Ryzen 9 is available at a lower price point than the Core i7, making it a more attractive option for buyers who are looking for value.

The third matchup that we'll be examining today is between the Core i5 10600K and the AMD Ryzen 5 3606. The Core i5 10600K features six cores and twelve threads, along with a turbo boost of up to 4.3 gigahertz. However, this processor is currently unavailable on most major e-tailers, including Amazon and Newegg.

Assuming that it will be available soon, we can estimate its price based on the part per thousand unit pricing mentioned in the video. If the price per thousand units is around $262, then a single unit of the Core i5 10600K would likely cost closer to $280. This is still significantly lower than its AMD counterpart, which has a similar number of cores and threads but without hyper-threading support.

However, it's worth noting that Intel has recently added hyper-threading support to most of its 10th gen CPUs, including the Core i5 10600K. This means that the two processors are now more competitive in terms of multi-threaded performance. Unfortunately for Intel, this doesn't change the fact that the Ryzen 5 3606 is still a better overall value when considering the $100 price difference and lower platform costs.

One potential alternative to the Core i7 is the Core i5 10400, which features six cores and twelve threads as well. However, it lacks multi-threading support, meaning it can't take full advantage of Hyper-Threading. This processor is currently available for around $216 and comes with a built-in cooler, making it a more affordable option.

The author has actually purchased one of these chips and is looking forward to testing its performance against the Ryzen 5 3606. The Core i5 10400 features a lower TDP and turbo boost speed than the Ryzen 5 3606, but if it can keep pace with its AMD counterpart, this could be a compelling option for buyers.

The author is also excited about the potential value of Intel's 10th gen Core i3 processors, which will feature hyper-threading support. This means that they may offer better performance and value than their current offerings, although it remains to be seen how these chips will compare to AMD's Ryzen 3000 series.

Overall, the article concludes by thanking viewers for watching and inviting them to subscribe to the channel for more tech content.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enso a couple weeks before Intel launched their 10th Gen Core Series comment like as processors there are a bunch of slides going around that were officially from Intel that listed the entire stack of temp gen chips and on the very right column there was pricing but it was per 1000 unit pricing so it was bulk pricing essentially meaning single unit pricing would be a bit higher than those values provided but even if Intel had given us the actual per unit MSRP s I still feel like they would be all jacked up come launch day as they often are once you factor in third-party retailers and whatever markups they want to add to the mix the MSRP s kind of fly out the window but now that we actually have a select number of core series attempt gen core series processors and z4 90 motherboards in stock I wanted to check out exactly how much money consumers are gonna have to spend in order to get on the comet-like s platform and now that we have performance benchmarks from countless or viewers online we can pretty much have all the ingredients needed to assess the true value proposition of intel's new platform compared to AMD's offerings on a m4 but before we dive in bear in mind that regardless of what conclusions we draw from this video that now might not be the best time to build a new PC mainly because the full stack of tech gen CPUs haven't been released yet there are still a number of chips that need to be tested against their AMD equivalents another reason you might not want to build a PC just yet is because AMD's be 550 motherboards are just around the corner and are expected to arrive sometime in mid-june of course there's probably not as much urgency to hop on B 550 now that AMD has retracted its statement about Zen 3 support on its existing 400 series motherboards those will support each other so that's no longer a perk that B 550 has over the 400 series boards but it's still a compelling option for users who want to get PCH and for support on the cheap or if they need more PCIe general purpose lanes then B 450 has to offer so definitely some things to think about there but considering this is a huge lunch for Intel this week I think it's still worth looking at the pricing and availability of their 10th gende seeing how it stacks up against the competition so we're gonna take a look at the core I nine ten nine hundred K core i7 10 700 K in the core i5 10 600 K versus their respective counterparts the AMD rise in nine 900 X 3,700 X and the 3600 let's start off with the big dawgs first the Intel Core I 910 900k up against AMD's risin 9 3900 X so I already did a video dedicated on exactly these two chips and if you watch that video you already kind of know that my conclusions about it were pretty much the same as they were for the 9900 K against the 3900 X Intel still has the faster gaming CPU but the lead is marginal when you're gaming at 1440p or higher and most people buying a CPU in this class are gonna be gaming at those resolutions so it's hard to justify especially when the multi-threaded performance of the 3900 X just completely wipes the floor with with the 10900 K it has two additional cores four extra threads it's by far the better all-around performer and it can be paired with the cheap p450 motherboard and still work perfectly fine whereas the the 10900 K you'll have to pair with a Z 490 board to make the most of it if you want to overclock and that's gonna cost a bit of a premium over intel's other 400 series boards if you look on Amazon you can see the core a nine part isn't even available right now and there's no price listed however I was able to find a price on Newegg even though it's still out of stock the pricing that they have here is five hundred and thirty US dollars it's definitely a bit more than the sub $400 per thousand part pricing that we saw on that Intel slide and it's currently over $100 more than the 3900 X so overall the 3900 X is by far and away the better value between the two I would say the 10900 K as you're about to see is probably the worst value chip in the 10th Gen Series lineup that we've seen so far the only reason you should buy the CPU is if you absolutely value the highest possible frame rates where you know even like a 5% single digit gains matter to you and you're willing to pay a hefty premium for it then then that's that's the only case I can really make for this chip at these prices let me do a bit of arithmetic here to find out how much each of these platforms would cost so let's say we went the AMD route we got a 3900 X 4 420 and by the way this is the lowest price I could find it for it was it was a bit more expensive on Newegg 420 bucks for the 3900 X plus an adequate be 450 motherboard if you were trying to you know go best-case scenario there are you know really cheap b4 keyboards that are probably too cheaper than 39 and 3900 X you'd want to scale up to something with a bit more robust of a vrm to handle all those cores so maybe something like the AC stuff B 450 here right it's it's a hundred and twenty bucks you can get I know the MSI B 450 tomahawk which is a really good board that I don't see here right now it's probably sold out but that goes for you know usually around a hundred and fifteen 120 bucks can perfectly accommodate a 3900 X so that's 120 + 420 that's five hundred and forty dollars and you're pretty much done right there I mean it comes included with the cooler sorry I'm on the wrong page it comes included with the rate prism RGB cooler it's not the cool of your dreams it's not gonna let you hit ridiculously high over clocks but it's a perfectly adequate cooler it's a nice value add and it's one more thing you don't have to spend additional money on so five hundred and forty dollars out the door how much do you have to spend with Intel well if you're buying from Newegg right now the price of the CPU alone pretty much matches what you would get on the AMD side for the CPU cooler and motherboard let that sink in now if we take a look at all the available z4 90 motherboards that have just launched here on Newegg sorted by lowest price we can see that they start at around 150 dollars not too bad but that's still 150 bucks that you have to tack on to 530 which is six hundred and eighty dollars and we don't even have a cooler yet so we're almost at 700 bucks and we still need a cooler what what's the absolute bare minimum you think you could spend on a cooler for a 10 900 K I mean being super conservative here maybe 50 bucks so you're spending roughly a little over $700 you're looking at paying roughly 33% more with Intel in this match up which is no small amount it's just simply too expensive and not powerful enough I mean even if it performed let's just say that the productivity numbers were on par with the 3900 X and and the gaming performance was you know roughly 15% faster on average at 1080p or 10% faster at 1440p you're still who's still gonna pay 33% more for this when you can have this the 10900 K needs to blow the 3900 X out of the water in multiple categories for these prices to make sense unfortunately it does not do that so let's move on to our next year going one tear down this is the core i7 10 700 K and you can see that it's actually available it's available o number one new release look at that I wonder how they rate that is that just like didn't L pay for that to be there I don't know but 387 dollars that's actually lower than what I was expecting on launch day I was probably anticipating over 400 bucks but here you go 8 cores 16 threads and clocks up to 5 point 1 gigahertz this is essentially a quarry 999 hundred K for a hundred bucks less so 99 hundred K is now a terrible value even worse than it might have been previously but you know how does this actually stack up against its direct competitor which would be the AMD risin 7 3700 X or depending on how you look at it if you want to look at pricing the 3900 X because I mean the rise in ships maybe 30 bucks more expensive here so not a whole lot more now if you're more concerned about gaming performance than you are with workstation stuff then you might be like well I'm just gonna go with the faster gaming CPU if they're around the same price but then you should also be considering the rise in 730 700 X which has you know fewer cores and threads that you definitely won't need if you're just gonna be gaming but this is a lot cheaper this is roughly 100 bucks cheaper almost exactly a hundred dollars cheaper than the core i7 and it's gonna be performing once again very closely in gaming workloads at 1440p so unless you're trying to target 1080p 144 Hertz or something like that you know again it's a tough sell the core i7 is a tough sell here compared to the AMD offering I don't think the 10 700 K comes with a cooler either so there's another 50 bucks at least at least a lot of people who are buying this are gonna try to overclock it and they're gonna need a good cooler maybe a hundred bucks on an a IO or something like that so being very generous here saying that you at least need to add $50 for a cooler where again you don't have to do that on the AMD side the third and final matchup that we'll look at today is between the core i5 10600 k-6 core twelve thread processor and the AMD Rison 5 3606 score 12 thread processor you can see that it's currently unavailable here on Amazon it's nowhere to be found on new egg or any other major e-tailer that I could find so we don't know the exact price of the 10 600 k we can assume that it's probably going to be any between 270 to 280 dollars if if that until slide was anything to go by I think it said like the part per thousand unit pricing was 262 bucks so factoring that in single unit price might be closer to 280 again we're seeing a trend here it looks like the AMD equivalent is always about a hundred dollars cheaper which puts Intel in a really tough position especially when you're forced to buy an aftermarket cooler and a more expensive motherboard on top of that that being said now that intel has added hyper-threading support to almost their full stack of ten gen CPUs including the core i5 10 600 k these two chips are a bit more competitive now when it comes to multi-threaded performance as we've already to discuss the core i7 and Cori 9 parts just get beat they get beaten badly by their direct amb competitors whereas that's not the case with the core i5 it's actually a pretty good well-rounded chip unfortunately for Intel I still think the horizon 3600 is the better overall value when you consider the $100 price difference and the lower platform costs and having things like and included cooler I will say this though I did spot another temp gen Series CPU that I wasn't expecting - this is the Core i5 10400 it also has six cores and twelve threads now that we have multi-threading on a lot of these chips but it's but it's much cheaper two hundred and sixteen dollars this is definitely more competitive with the 3600 in terms of pricing have no idea how this thing performs it's it's locked there's no case queue which means you can't overclock it but that also means you can buy a cheaper non zseries board that supports 10th gen CPUs and spend even less money trying to go for a comment like a system so I've actually already purchased one of these chips it's on its way should be here tomorrow I'll be doing some testing on that against the 3600 to see how they stack up this chip does feature a lower 65 watt TDP and 4.3 gigahertz turbo but if it can keep pace with the 3600 then this might be the most compelling option that we've seen from Intel so far with temp gen being that it is not too far off in terms of pricing it does include a cooler and it's performance won't be crippled by using a cheaper series motherboard so we'll just have to see how things shake out between these two chips but it's honestly the one that I'm most excited for I think also because these prices are a bit more reasonable they're more mainstream more or less the sort of sweet spot that a lot of gamers will be looking at with these two chips so more on that later this also makes me very curious to see the price and performance of Intel's 10th gen core i3 processors which will also feature hyper threading and to see how those compare to the recently launched AMD rise in three parts than 30 130 300 X but we'll have to wait and see about those thank you guys so much for watching this video I hope it's somewhat relevant by the time you're watching it I know the prices and availability fluctuating change all the time so there's a 50/50 chance that this video is already dead but that's okay thank you guys so much for watching toss a look before you go get subscribed for more tech content on the way and I will see you guys in the next videoso a couple weeks before Intel launched their 10th Gen Core Series comment like as processors there are a bunch of slides going around that were officially from Intel that listed the entire stack of temp gen chips and on the very right column there was pricing but it was per 1000 unit pricing so it was bulk pricing essentially meaning single unit pricing would be a bit higher than those values provided but even if Intel had given us the actual per unit MSRP s I still feel like they would be all jacked up come launch day as they often are once you factor in third-party retailers and whatever markups they want to add to the mix the MSRP s kind of fly out the window but now that we actually have a select number of core series attempt gen core series processors and z4 90 motherboards in stock I wanted to check out exactly how much money consumers are gonna have to spend in order to get on the comet-like s platform and now that we have performance benchmarks from countless or viewers online we can pretty much have all the ingredients needed to assess the true value proposition of intel's new platform compared to AMD's offerings on a m4 but before we dive in bear in mind that regardless of what conclusions we draw from this video that now might not be the best time to build a new PC mainly because the full stack of tech gen CPUs haven't been released yet there are still a number of chips that need to be tested against their AMD equivalents another reason you might not want to build a PC just yet is because AMD's be 550 motherboards are just around the corner and are expected to arrive sometime in mid-june of course there's probably not as much urgency to hop on B 550 now that AMD has retracted its statement about Zen 3 support on its existing 400 series motherboards those will support each other so that's no longer a perk that B 550 has over the 400 series boards but it's still a compelling option for users who want to get PCH and for support on the cheap or if they need more PCIe general purpose lanes then B 450 has to offer so definitely some things to think about there but considering this is a huge lunch for Intel this week I think it's still worth looking at the pricing and availability of their 10th gende seeing how it stacks up against the competition so we're gonna take a look at the core I nine ten nine hundred K core i7 10 700 K in the core i5 10 600 K versus their respective counterparts the AMD rise in nine 900 X 3,700 X and the 3600 let's start off with the big dawgs first the Intel Core I 910 900k up against AMD's risin 9 3900 X so I already did a video dedicated on exactly these two chips and if you watch that video you already kind of know that my conclusions about it were pretty much the same as they were for the 9900 K against the 3900 X Intel still has the faster gaming CPU but the lead is marginal when you're gaming at 1440p or higher and most people buying a CPU in this class are gonna be gaming at those resolutions so it's hard to justify especially when the multi-threaded performance of the 3900 X just completely wipes the floor with with the 10900 K it has two additional cores four extra threads it's by far the better all-around performer and it can be paired with the cheap p450 motherboard and still work perfectly fine whereas the the 10900 K you'll have to pair with a Z 490 board to make the most of it if you want to overclock and that's gonna cost a bit of a premium over intel's other 400 series boards if you look on Amazon you can see the core a nine part isn't even available right now and there's no price listed however I was able to find a price on Newegg even though it's still out of stock the pricing that they have here is five hundred and thirty US dollars it's definitely a bit more than the sub $400 per thousand part pricing that we saw on that Intel slide and it's currently over $100 more than the 3900 X so overall the 3900 X is by far and away the better value between the two I would say the 10900 K as you're about to see is probably the worst value chip in the 10th Gen Series lineup that we've seen so far the only reason you should buy the CPU is if you absolutely value the highest possible frame rates where you know even like a 5% single digit gains matter to you and you're willing to pay a hefty premium for it then then that's that's the only case I can really make for this chip at these prices let me do a bit of arithmetic here to find out how much each of these platforms would cost so let's say we went the AMD route we got a 3900 X 4 420 and by the way this is the lowest price I could find it for it was it was a bit more expensive on Newegg 420 bucks for the 3900 X plus an adequate be 450 motherboard if you were trying to you know go best-case scenario there are you know really cheap b4 keyboards that are probably too cheaper than 39 and 3900 X you'd want to scale up to something with a bit more robust of a vrm to handle all those cores so maybe something like the AC stuff B 450 here right it's it's a hundred and twenty bucks you can get I know the MSI B 450 tomahawk which is a really good board that I don't see here right now it's probably sold out but that goes for you know usually around a hundred and fifteen 120 bucks can perfectly accommodate a 3900 X so that's 120 + 420 that's five hundred and forty dollars and you're pretty much done right there I mean it comes included with the cooler sorry I'm on the wrong page it comes included with the rate prism RGB cooler it's not the cool of your dreams it's not gonna let you hit ridiculously high over clocks but it's a perfectly adequate cooler it's a nice value add and it's one more thing you don't have to spend additional money on so five hundred and forty dollars out the door how much do you have to spend with Intel well if you're buying from Newegg right now the price of the CPU alone pretty much matches what you would get on the AMD side for the CPU cooler and motherboard let that sink in now if we take a look at all the available z4 90 motherboards that have just launched here on Newegg sorted by lowest price we can see that they start at around 150 dollars not too bad but that's still 150 bucks that you have to tack on to 530 which is six hundred and eighty dollars and we don't even have a cooler yet so we're almost at 700 bucks and we still need a cooler what what's the absolute bare minimum you think you could spend on a cooler for a 10 900 K I mean being super conservative here maybe 50 bucks so you're spending roughly a little over $700 you're looking at paying roughly 33% more with Intel in this match up which is no small amount it's just simply too expensive and not powerful enough I mean even if it performed let's just say that the productivity numbers were on par with the 3900 X and and the gaming performance was you know roughly 15% faster on average at 1080p or 10% faster at 1440p you're still who's still gonna pay 33% more for this when you can have this the 10900 K needs to blow the 3900 X out of the water in multiple categories for these prices to make sense unfortunately it does not do that so let's move on to our next year going one tear down this is the core i7 10 700 K and you can see that it's actually available it's available o number one new release look at that I wonder how they rate that is that just like didn't L pay for that to be there I don't know but 387 dollars that's actually lower than what I was expecting on launch day I was probably anticipating over 400 bucks but here you go 8 cores 16 threads and clocks up to 5 point 1 gigahertz this is essentially a quarry 999 hundred K for a hundred bucks less so 99 hundred K is now a terrible value even worse than it might have been previously but you know how does this actually stack up against its direct competitor which would be the AMD risin 7 3700 X or depending on how you look at it if you want to look at pricing the 3900 X because I mean the rise in ships maybe 30 bucks more expensive here so not a whole lot more now if you're more concerned about gaming performance than you are with workstation stuff then you might be like well I'm just gonna go with the faster gaming CPU if they're around the same price but then you should also be considering the rise in 730 700 X which has you know fewer cores and threads that you definitely won't need if you're just gonna be gaming but this is a lot cheaper this is roughly 100 bucks cheaper almost exactly a hundred dollars cheaper than the core i7 and it's gonna be performing once again very closely in gaming workloads at 1440p so unless you're trying to target 1080p 144 Hertz or something like that you know again it's a tough sell the core i7 is a tough sell here compared to the AMD offering I don't think the 10 700 K comes with a cooler either so there's another 50 bucks at least at least a lot of people who are buying this are gonna try to overclock it and they're gonna need a good cooler maybe a hundred bucks on an a IO or something like that so being very generous here saying that you at least need to add $50 for a cooler where again you don't have to do that on the AMD side the third and final matchup that we'll look at today is between the core i5 10600 k-6 core twelve thread processor and the AMD Rison 5 3606 score 12 thread processor you can see that it's currently unavailable here on Amazon it's nowhere to be found on new egg or any other major e-tailer that I could find so we don't know the exact price of the 10 600 k we can assume that it's probably going to be any between 270 to 280 dollars if if that until slide was anything to go by I think it said like the part per thousand unit pricing was 262 bucks so factoring that in single unit price might be closer to 280 again we're seeing a trend here it looks like the AMD equivalent is always about a hundred dollars cheaper which puts Intel in a really tough position especially when you're forced to buy an aftermarket cooler and a more expensive motherboard on top of that that being said now that intel has added hyper-threading support to almost their full stack of ten gen CPUs including the core i5 10 600 k these two chips are a bit more competitive now when it comes to multi-threaded performance as we've already to discuss the core i7 and Cori 9 parts just get beat they get beaten badly by their direct amb competitors whereas that's not the case with the core i5 it's actually a pretty good well-rounded chip unfortunately for Intel I still think the horizon 3600 is the better overall value when you consider the $100 price difference and the lower platform costs and having things like and included cooler I will say this though I did spot another temp gen Series CPU that I wasn't expecting - this is the Core i5 10400 it also has six cores and twelve threads now that we have multi-threading on a lot of these chips but it's but it's much cheaper two hundred and sixteen dollars this is definitely more competitive with the 3600 in terms of pricing have no idea how this thing performs it's it's locked there's no case queue which means you can't overclock it but that also means you can buy a cheaper non zseries board that supports 10th gen CPUs and spend even less money trying to go for a comment like a system so I've actually already purchased one of these chips it's on its way should be here tomorrow I'll be doing some testing on that against the 3600 to see how they stack up this chip does feature a lower 65 watt TDP and 4.3 gigahertz turbo but if it can keep pace with the 3600 then this might be the most compelling option that we've seen from Intel so far with temp gen being that it is not too far off in terms of pricing it does include a cooler and it's performance won't be crippled by using a cheaper series motherboard so we'll just have to see how things shake out between these two chips but it's honestly the one that I'm most excited for I think also because these prices are a bit more reasonable they're more mainstream more or less the sort of sweet spot that a lot of gamers will be looking at with these two chips so more on that later this also makes me very curious to see the price and performance of Intel's 10th gen core i3 processors which will also feature hyper threading and to see how those compare to the recently launched AMD rise in three parts than 30 130 300 X but we'll have to wait and see about those thank you guys so much for watching this video I hope it's somewhat relevant by the time you're watching it I know the prices and availability fluctuating change all the time so there's a 50/50 chance that this video is already dead but that's okay thank you guys so much for watching toss a look before you go get subscribed for more tech content on the way and I will see you guys in the next video\n"