I Can't Believe What This $25,000 Computer Is For

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**A Detailed Review of the Music Server: Separating Fact from Fiction**

As I delved into the world of high-end music servers, I came across an intriguing system that promised to deliver unparalleled audio quality. In this review, I'll dissect the marketing materials and technical specifications of the "Tech Audio Extreme" system, separating fact from fiction.

**Redundant Storage: A Concern for Audio Quality?**

One of the most striking aspects of the Tech Audio Extreme system is its decision not to include redundant storage in the server. According to the manufacturer, this is done to maintain optimal audio quality. However, as I pointed out, this approach can be a major concern from an electrical engineering perspective.

In reality, RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disks) is a tried-and-true method for ensuring data safety and reliability in digital systems. By not including it, the manufacturer is essentially bragging about their system's lack of redundancy. I'm left wondering if this decision is more about marketing hype than actual technical merit.

**High-Speed RAM: The Unsung Hero**

The Tech Audio Extreme system boasts high-speed RAM, with custom modules that have been carefully selected and matched to ensure optimal performance. The manufacturer claims that these custom modules are the key to reducing refresh rate burst current by almost 50%, resulting in lower operating temperatures and a more efficient power supply.

While I appreciate the attention to detail in selecting the RAM modules, I'm not entirely convinced by this approach. As an engineer, I'd like to see more concrete evidence of the impact of these custom modules on audio quality.

**Power Supply Filtering: A Game-Changer?**

The system's use of industrial-grade memory modules with carefully selected capacitors and resistors is certainly impressive. The fact that these components are matched to within a one percent tolerance suggests a commitment to attention-to-detail in the design process.

However, I'm left wondering what exactly this means for audio quality. While power supply filtering is an important consideration, it's unclear how much of an impact this will have on the overall listening experience.

**A System That Changes Lives (But Not Without Questionable Marketing)**

The Tech Audio Extreme system has apparently won over professional reviewers with its exceptional performance and reliability. However, as I dug deeper into the marketing materials, I noticed a peculiar trend: when it comes to technical specifications, the manufacturer becomes remarkably vague.

CPUs, RAM speed, and other key details are nowhere to be found in the specs section, replaced by cryptic language about "industrial memory modules" that are custom-ordered. This lack of transparency raises more questions than answers.

In conclusion, while the Tech Audio Extreme system shows promise in terms of technical specifications, I remain skeptical about its marketing claims. The omission of redundant storage and vague handling of technical details have left me questioning the manufacturer's commitment to truth and transparency.

**The Verdict: A System Worth Investigating (But with Caveats)**

Ultimately, whether or not the Tech Audio Extreme system lives up to its lofty promises remains to be seen. If you're in the market for a high-end music server, it may be worth investigating further – but proceed with caution and don't take the marketing claims at face value.

Let me know your thoughts on this system in the comments below!

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: eni recently found a listing for a pc which i i just had to share with you because i think unless you  specifically recognize the product you're not going to be able to guess what it's for it has  a starting price of 24 000 euros which translates to about 26 000 us dollars now i did reach out to  the company and i asked them hey would you guys mind sending one of these pcs over for a video  but surprise surprise they didn't reply so what we're going to do instead in today's video  is we're going to go on to their website and we're going to have a very close  detailed look at the pictures of the system and then i'll have you guess what you think  it's for in the comment section below at which point i'll reveal its use case and then the fun  starts because then we're gonna go look at the marketing material for this pc which is  it's pretty next level so with that buckle up because today's video is gonna be a bit of a ridenow before we have a look at the system uh just a quick note i did photoshop all of the  branding of it for the initial first look because it kind of tells you what it is in  the name so i wanted to make it harder for you to guess although i'll obviously tell you what  the company's called later but yeah let's have a look at the first picture which is the outside of  it and it's admittedly very beautiful you can see that there is a lot of aluminium there's  some ventilation drilled in the top and then we have this minimalist logo on the front with  what i hope is the most satisfying power button any human has ever pressed considering the 24 000  euro asking price now one thing to note with this picture is that this system does not seem to have  standard server rack mounting so just bear that in mind when we flip over to the picture of the  inside now this picture of the interior is the kind of thing that you wouldn't be able to leave  young david alone with for any extended period of time lest you massively impact global tissue  supplies like that is a beautiful interior now the first thing that i notice about the inside of  this system aside from the fact that it doesn't have single channel ram which would have been  just the absolute cherry on top but aside from the huge amount of ram the cooling solution is  very interesting because you can see that it is passive there are no fans involved  there are just three heat pipes per cpu that draw heat away to this heatsink on the side of  the case now that heatsink is apparently solid copper which that's pretty cool i'm not going  to lie that really is pretty cool but despite the fact that that is a solid copper heatsink  there are two cpus under here i don't know if that cooling is going to be enough but when you find  out what the system's for you'll realize that maybe heat output is not going to be much of a  problem for the system now the company is very vague about the cpus that are under there the  most information they give you is that they are 10 core 20 thread xeon cpus they don't tell you what  xeon cpus they are now going by the motherboard heatsink that is an asus workstation motherboard  and i've actually gone and found it it is this asus workstations c621e sage power motherboard uh  which is a real thick boy motherboard with these two huge lga i think those are 3647 sockets which  does kind of help narrow down the cpus because there are only three cpus that can fit in this  motherboard that have 10 cores and 20 threads editor david here it's not technically true there  has been three generations of these intel scalable xeons and in the second and third generation there  are a couple more 10 core variants littered in there although most of them seem like refreshes  or intel just shifting around product stacks still i just thought i'd mention that now the first one  is this intel xeon silver 4114 which is 10 cores 20 threads and it's an 85 watt cpu and they sell  for about 700 or at least did when they came out and then we have the other option is just the t  variant of that cpu and then the other option is this one which is an intel xeon gold 5115  which has 10 cores 20 threads and a slightly higher core frequency now i'm kind of hoping that  it has these in it just because of the pricing uh it's it means we're looking at about 2 400  for the cpus that are in there and then about 800 canadian dollars for the motherboard so  that'll be about 3 000 for the motherboard and the two cpus let's have a closer look at the ram  configuration here it looks like there's a hell of a lot of ram but each of these sticks is a 4  gig stick of ram which they talk a lot about in the marketing material for the system uh but it  sounds like it's like just ecc memory uh but we'll get into that a bit later that is a total of about  48 gigs which is a lot of ram but it's not that much ram for a 24 000 euro pc with two zeons in it  and then there are also these two expansion cards which uh those are like m.2 slot cards so that you  can put a bunch of like nvme storage in there and then just a quick final note on the system specs i  don't see a graphics card in there which makes it clear that the system's performance is all about  fast storage and cpu power but anyway let's have a quick look at the power supply which is this whole  side bit of the computer now it looks very impressive we have these large capacitors very  neatly laying out in a row and then we have this massive toroidal transformer down here surrounded  in wood i'm assuming to deal with emi but i'm not sure and then we also have a power supply  for it down here which seems to be aluminium as opposed to the copper heatsink for the cpus  uh now again this looks really cool but it's only a 400 watt power supply which considering  that we've got dual xeons in this system is not a whole lot and then it's fully proprietary so  yeah you're kind of stuck with it so this is the shot of the i o which has a brushed  copper i o shield which i'm not going to lie looks really beautiful that is sick but  it's interesting because you look at the i o and then you go and look at the picture of the i o  for this motherboard on amazon and you'll notice that there are some ports missing so they clearly  designed this i o shield so that it covers up any ports that makes it look like poor people  use the system i'm guessing right because it covers up the ps2 port with the usb 2 ports and  the the onboard audio so we don't need any of that for this system although we do need redundant lanbut without further ado let's reveal what this obscene system was designed to do it's  called the taco audio sg extreme and this 24 000 system with dual passively cooled xeons in it  and 48 gigs of ram is a music storage server this system is designed to run roon on it which is like  music playing software so this is like the server for that and then you use an ipad running roon on  it which then streams your lossless music files from the sgm extreme to the digital  to analog converter in your hi-fi setup that then converts the digital signal into an analog signal  that feeds it to the amplifiers in your hifi so as far as i understand it this sgm extreme  is just a glorified nas in fact if you go onto roon's website they actually tell you that you  can run roon core on a synology nas which is insane because for the 24 000 euro asking price  you just get two terabytes of internal storage which is really not that much for a nas right and  in all fairness to taco audio uh they don't actually charge you as much for additional  storage as apple does which is kind of wild to be honest uh but still it's that's a crazy amount of  money for a storage server but they also give you the option to spec extreme usb which costs  uh it costs almost 2 000 euros i don't it's just usb that's more extreme i guess it's got like  anti-jitter stuff in it i guess is the argument around that but you can also spec up legacy  outputs things like aes or spitf now getting a spitf port on this system which funnily enough  the motherboard actually comes with one but to get the taco extreme spedef  uh the one that they didn't just block out with an io shield costs over 2 000 euro extra  for a port that is already on the motherboard so i wonder i i would actually like to see i wonder  if that spec up just gives you access to the split off on the spdif on the back that would be amazingbut now we get to what is almost definitely my favorite part about this system which is  the marketing material now i want to preface this by saying that i am not an expert when  it comes to digital audio reproduction but i am a bit of an expert when it comes to identifying  marketing and this is some of the best i've ever seen so let's see what taco has to  say for themselves they say that the taco audio sgm extreme is a state-of-the-art music server  designed to deliver the most realistic sounding live reproduction from stored music files  they then continue to say that they left no stone unturned when it comes to maximizing how much  money you can charge for an ass but basically they continue to justify the decisions they explain  why they chose the hardware that is in this system starting off with the dual cpu design  now the english is a bit difficult to follow there but they're basically saying roon is the  best software to use with the server and then they say that the choice to design a dual cpu system  was for a large part fueled by finding a way around the impact of roon's luxury interface on  sound quality so they're saying that roon is great but because it has a really beautiful graphical  user interface you need two passively called xeons that's kind of what they're arguing there  i i don't know man i feel like that's a that's a veil thin justification for that because if  you go onto roon's website and you look at like the specs that they recommend for their software  uh they tell you to buy things like this to use roon on as a music server storage you know you buy  an intel nok and then you plug a a nas into it and there you go you'll have a great rune experience  but according to taiko you need dual xeons uh but but they could they continue they explain it a bit  more with our groundbreaking custom allocation of processes you can now have both the best  sound quality as well as the best user interface what's more due to the low amount of heat that's  generated due to this design you can expect much longer component life than a single cpu design  yeah this is going to be low heat production because the system's idle the entire time in fact  i would be surprised if this pc doesn't explode under full cpu load for both of those cpus just  due to the the cooling solution but anyway let's move over to two which is one of my favorites pcie  storage now they're saying here in our research we found ssd storage to be a big bottleneck for  the overall performance of a digital source they're saying ssd storage is a bottleneck  when it comes to storing flac files like lossless music files an ssd always connects to your system  via motherboard dmi chipset for the extreme we're using pcie modules so just an m.2 nvme drive  which connects directly to the cpu because it uses pcie lanes therefore we achieve speeds up to four  times faster than ssds which results in lower latency and much lower system noise giving you  black backgrounds this is when it comes to music black backgrounds huge space rendition and brings  an ease to the musician's performance only matched by the very best vinyl and tape playback systems  so i don't even know i don't even know what to say about that because that's so ridiculous but  let's carry on so they say they also rely on the new vmv technology that intel introduces  with their new xeon cpus and that allows them to even further reduce latency and they say  you can select anything from two terabytes to 24 terabytes eliminating the need for playback  from external drives such as a nas but this is is where it gets really good right so they're saying  worried about backups we found that raid is not beneficial to the sound quality why  what like what impact does raid have on the sound quality of a music server like i don't understand  can they please elaborate here like what so okay but then they say therefore we strongly  recommend to our customers to use an external backup drive with this 24 000 euro music server  this server does not have redundant storage in it because it apparently affects the audio quality  so they're they're bragging about it not having raid in it like i  yo the balls right it's they don't even ignore it they straight up brag about it like  okay i think i've composed myself so let's let's move on to number three which is selected  high-speed ram uh now they say here ever heard of dram refresh you should because it's one  of the main reasons why many think fewer and lower speed dimms are better for sound quality  i have literally never heard anybody try and correlate ram speed and audio quality before i  have literally never heard that before but anyway in our research we discovered the true source  of why ram has such a big impact on sonics and were able to deal with it in our way so the way  in which they dealt with this well-documented problem that ram screws up your digital audio  uh by using custom ram modules that have factory pre-selected a-grade memory modules  uh all dim components memory chips capacitors resistors etc are matched to within a one percent  tolerance and selected for low current draw uh now i'm assuming considering that it's a xeon system  they're using ecc memory in here but that that sounds like it goes beyond that  and they're saying that the side effect of this is refresh rate burst current is reduced by  almost 50 percent and operating temperatures are much lower allowing lower refresh rates  combined with power supply filtering this allows us to use 12 memory dimms with a high  combined bandwidth at a very low refresh noise levels noise levels so they're saying that the  combination of the memory modules and the power supply means that they can use 12  dimms like it's because of the cpus and the motherboard what do you meanokay i think i've composed myself again i think we're good now in all honesty i don't want to  spend much more time talking about any of this stuff it's just more non-specific marketing  language about why this is the best music storage server ever and how they selected the capacitors  in the power supply by ear and all kinds of stuff like that but under this there are some  outtakes from professional reviewers telling you how this system has just changed their life they  no longer have erectile dysfunction they're happy everything works and it's the best music they've  ever had from their system because of the taco audio extreme but what's really interesting to  me is under these pages of marketing material you get to the specs of the tech audio extreme where  suddenly they become really vague about all of it they don't tell you exactly what the cpus are  that's in here they don't tell you what speed the ram is or what kind of ram it is they just tell  you that it's industrial memory modules that are custom order and that's the part that's that's so  crazy for me about this system is that when it comes to like unmeasurable non-specific stuff  they they talk for hours about it but the moment when it comes to actual specifications they become  very very vague about it which that is just dodgy that's just weird full stop so i don't know this  thing may lead to the best digital music audio reproduction that anybody's ever heard before but  this looks like some pretty crazy marketing to me right there which i think is a very good point  to end this video on so thank you for watching please let me know in the comment section down  below what you think of this system and uh yeah until the next video thank you for watching bye