Massive Lag Spikes: Uh Flight Simulator Really Took a Dive Here We're Going from 32 Frames Per Second to 25 Now Because of How Flight Simulator Works.

25 Is Surprisingly Playable But This Is Is Really Starting to Take a Toll on Microsoft Flight Simulator and Then Finally When It Comes to GTA 5 We Went Down from an Average of 83 Frames Per Second to an Average of 66 Which Is a Pretty Big Drop Especially If You Bear in Mind That with the 2x8 Gig Optimum Configuration System We Were Getting a Hundred Frames Per Second.

Considering the Situation This is Really Big Drop in Performance But All of These Games Are Still Playable Except Maybe for Microsoft Flight Simulator That's Really on the Edge When You're Getting to 25 Frames Per Second Um But Yeah We're Getting a Big Drop in Performance Here But It's Still Not Knee-Cap to the Genitals Here Which We Got with the Uh Alienware System That System's Gaming Performance Was a Complete Dumpster Fire.

Unfortunately My Lust for Performance Destruction Haven't Been Satisfied Yet So I'm Gonna Try and Get Even Worse Performance from This Single 16 Gig Stick and I Think the Best Way to Do That Is to Drop the Memory Speed Down to 13.33 Megahertz Now That's Very Slow for DDR4 in Fact to Put That into Context That is the Base Memory Frequency of DDR3.

So Yeah Let's See What That Does When It Comes to Battlefield 5 We Drop All the Way Down to 45 Frames Per Second Here and We're Starting to Get These Weird Frame Drops and Lag Spikes and Stuff Like That So the Game Is Starting to Behave a Bit Weirdly Here and Bear in Mind That We Used to Get 106 Frames Per Second Average with This System So Yeah That's That's a Pretty Crazy Drop in Performance There.

Moving On to Crisis Remaster Oh 25 Frames Per Second That's Not Looking Good for This System Again This is Less Than Half We Were Getting with the Optimum Kind of Configuration Flight Simulator Is Running at 17 Frames Per Second Which is Pretty Crazy and It's Starting to Get into Slideshow Territory Although Flight Simulator Is Still Kind of Playable in 17 Frames Per Second.

It's Definitely Not an Optimum Gaming Experience But It's Not Entirely Unplayable and Again Bear in Mind We Were Getting 40 Frames Per Second with the Optimum Configuration So Again That's Less Than Half the Performance and Then Finally We Have GTA 5 Which Was Giving Us 50 Frames Per Second Average Down from 101 of the Optimum Configuration Unfortunately at the End of All of This My Performance Tire Iron Bloodlust Haven't Really Been Satisfied Yet.

Yes We Got Two of These Games to Run at RTX 30 90 8K Levels of Performance But They Were Still Reasonably Playable Even at an Average of 25 or 17 Frames Per Second I Mean Playable Is a Strong Word but the Frame Rates Were Really Stable We Weren't Getting Weird Artifacts Like a Massive Frame Dips and Stuff Like That.

And the Same Goes for Battlefield 5 and GTA 5. I Really Wanted to See This PC Screech to a Halt in the Way That That Alienware System Did So My Main Takeaway from All of This is I'm Actually Really Impressed with How Well This Ryzen CPU Handled This Situation Even When It Was Massively Starved from Memory Bandwidth It Was Still Giving a Very Stable Frame Rate Which I Think Is Impressive or Albeit a Bit Disappointing for Me.

And Then the Final Takeaway from All of This is an RTX 2070 Super at 1080p is a Real Beast I Was Testing All of These Games at Ultra Settings and Even When It Lost 60 Percent of Its Performance Due to Bottlenecks We Were Still Getting Playable Results in Most of These Games So if You're Gaming at High High Settings at 1080p on an RTX 2070 Super You Really Don't Need to Worry About Upgrading to Those Newfangled RTX Ampere Cards Because There's So Much Performance Here and With That Thank You Very Much for Watching Another Very Informative Video If You Like This Video Like Subscribe to the Channel Share it with Your Friends and Until the Next Video Bye

WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: entoday's video is my favorite kind of video to make because it kind of goes contrary to the whole point of tech youtube usually what you do regardless of the budget if it's a high-end system or a knife battle on craigslist end system you try and get the most gaming performance out of the configuration as possible because obviously whereas today's video i'm essentially going to take a high-end ish gaming system and go to town on both its legs with a tire iron until it can't walk anymore so yeah i'm pretty excited okay to give you a bit more context today's video is kind of a follow-up to my verizon based alienware pre-built video that i did about a month ago now if you watch that video you'll remember that the stock configuration of that system had terrible gaming performance and one of the big reasons for that was the fact that it had a single 8 gig stick of ddr4 in there which is apparently a massive cardinal sin for ryzen gaming performance but it still got me thinking was one of the main reasons that the performance was that bad was because it was a single 8 gig stick which basically combines a lack of memory capacity with a lack of memory bandwidth or are you gonna have equally terrible gaming performance if you have single channels 16 gigs of ram so that's basically what we're going to do in today's video and then after we do that we're going to see to what extent we can kneecap the performance of a ryzen system with one stick of ram now when it comes to the system that i'm going to use for today's video it's a reasonably high-end gaming system especially for the 1080p resolution that i'm going to do all the tests at as far as the cpu goes i've got a ryzen 7 3d x that i'm going to clock at 4.2 gigahertz i'm going to manually clock it there so that there's no frequency fluctuations that could affect any results when it comes to the ram i'm going to be using two different configurations uh the 16 gig kit that's got two 8 gig sticks in it is going to be this corsair ram that i'm going to clock at 3 200 megahertz i'm also going to match all of the cast latencies between the various configurations so that the only variable is going to be dual channel versus single channel and then when it comes to the single 16 gig stick i'm going to use this hyper x fury rgb i think it's called and this is also going to be running at 3 200 megahertz with the same cast latencies and then finally when it comes to the graphics card we're using this beefy rtx 2070 super which for 1080p gaming is is is pretty beastly just a quick note on the benchmarks before i show them uh the actual benchmark figures that i quote and the screen captures that i show were recorded on separate runs and i actually had to go back after the benchmarks to do a bunch of extra screen capture now the reason i mention this is because for some reason after i finished actually benchmarking all of this stuff the system just refused to boot with the manually set 4.2 gigahertz frequency for the cpu so for some of the screen capture you'll notice that the cpu is actually auto boosting it barely makes a difference it was only boosting about 70 megahertz higher than the 4.2 gigahertz and it doesn't really affect the performance much so the screen capture is still representative of the performance difference but yeah i just thought i'd point that out so with that let's get into the benchmarks the first game that i'm going to start off with is battlefield 5. now i'm starting with battlefield 5 because it performed horribly on that alienware system and it had really weird frame drops and stuff now as you can see going from two 8 gig sticks to one 16 gig stick you're losing about 20 of your performance which is a lot considering that that's the only difference but with a single 16 gig stick it is still very playable now moving over to crysis remaster which is a pretty badly optimized remaster if you ask me because even at like 1080p not with the highest settings in the optimum configuration on this system we're still only getting about 54 frames per second but when you drop to one 16 gig stick you lose quite a lot you go from 54 down to 43 frames per second and you can really feel the difference the the drops are a lot more noticeable flight simulator at 1080p also didn't have a great time on this system we're getting 40 frames per second with the 8x2 and then it dropped down to 32 frames per second on on the 16x1 it still is very playable but that's a pretty big drop finally looking at gta 5 it it lost quite a lot of performance as well we went down from 101 frames per second to 83 with the single 16 gig stick it's quite interesting because there seems to be a pretty similar drop in performance in all of these games going from the one configuration to the other and after looking at the benchmarks i think it's safe to say that ryzen really likes memory bandwidth i don't think anybody knew that going into this video so this is this is really very informative cutting edge stuff the thing is this still isn't repeated tire ironing to the kneecaps gaming performance these games lost about 20 percent of their frame rate but they're still very playable and we didn't get any weird lag spikes anywhere which i was really expecting so i'm going to take it a little bit further instead of running this single 16 gig stick at 3200 megahertz i'm going to drop it down to 2400 megahertz let's see what effect that has with a single gig stick now again i'm starting with battlefield v i'm only going to be comparing two benchmark results at a time so that we don't have too much information on the screen at any given time and as you can see here going from 3200 megahertz on a single stick to 2400 megahertz on a single stick again has around a 20 performance impact i'm actually surprised at how much of a difference that made on top of the single channel thing already so at this point we're getting significantly worse performance than we were with the optimum 8 by 2 gig configuration the game is still playable though and we don't have any weird lag spikes yet uh moving on to crisis remaster we're getting a reasonable drop in performance here although i don't think it's quite as big as the previous one going from 43 to about 33 megahertz at this point the game is feeling very sluggish but it's still kind of playable and there aren't any massive lag spikes uh flight simulator really took a dive here we're going from 32 frames per second to 25 now because of how flight simulator works 25 is surprisingly playable but this is is really starting to take a toll on microsoft flight simulator and then finally when it comes to gta 5 we went down from an average of 83 frames per second to an average of 66 which is a pretty big drop especially if you bear in mind that with the 2x8 gig optimum configuration system we were getting a hundred frames per second now considering the situation this is a really big drop in performance but all of these games are still playable except maybe for microsoft flight simulator that's really on the edge when you're getting to 25 frames per second um but yeah we're getting a big drop in performance here but it's still not kneecap to the genitals here which we got with the uh alienware system that system's gaming performance was a complete dumpster fire so unfortunately my lust for performance destruction hasn't been satisfied yet so i'm gonna try and get even worse performance from this single 16 gig stick and i think the best way to do that is to drop the memory speed down to 13 33 megahertz now that's very slow for ddr4 in fact to put that into context that is the base memory frequency of ddr3 so yeah let's see what that does when it comes to battlefield 5 we drop all the way down to 45 frames per second here and we're starting to get these weird frame drops and lag spikes and stuff like that so the game is starting to behave a bit weirdly here and bear in mind that we used to get 106 frames per second average with this system so yeah that's that's a pretty crazy drop in performance there moving on to crisis remaster oh 25 frames per second that's not looking good for this system again this is less than half we were getting with the optimum kind of configuration flight simulator is running at 17 frames per second which is pretty crazy and it's starting to get into slideshow territory although flight simulator is still kind of playable in 17 frames per second it's definitely not an optimum gaming experience but it's not entirely unplayable and again bear in mind we were getting 40 frames per second with the optimum configuration so again that's less than half the performance and then finally we have gta 5 which was giving us 50 frames per second average down from 101 of the optimum configuration unfortunately at the end of all of this my performance tire iron bloodlust hasn't really been satisfied yet yes we got two of these games to run at rtx 30 90 8k levels of performance but they were still reasonably playable even at an average of 25 or 17 frames per second i mean playable is a strong word but the frame rates were really stable we weren't getting weird artifacts like a massive frame dips and stuff like that and the same goes for battlefield 5 and gta 5. i really wanted to see this pc screech to a halt in the way that that alienware system did so my main takeaway from all of this is i'm actually really impressed with how well this ryzen cpu handled this situation even when it was massively starved from memory bandwidth it was still giving a very stable frame rate which which i think is impressive or albeit a bit disappointing for me and then the final takeaway from all of this is an rtx 2070 super at 1080p is a real beast i was testing all of these games at ultra settings and even when it lost 60 percent of its performance due to bottlenecks we were still getting playable results in most of these games so if you're gaming at high high settings at 1080p on an rtx 2070 super you really don't need to worry about upgrading to those newfangled rtx ampere cards because there's so much performance here and with that thank you very much for watching another very informative video if you like this video like subscribe to the channel share it with your friends and until the next video bye youtoday's video is my favorite kind of video to make because it kind of goes contrary to the whole point of tech youtube usually what you do regardless of the budget if it's a high-end system or a knife battle on craigslist end system you try and get the most gaming performance out of the configuration as possible because obviously whereas today's video i'm essentially going to take a high-end ish gaming system and go to town on both its legs with a tire iron until it can't walk anymore so yeah i'm pretty excited okay to give you a bit more context today's video is kind of a follow-up to my verizon based alienware pre-built video that i did about a month ago now if you watch that video you'll remember that the stock configuration of that system had terrible gaming performance and one of the big reasons for that was the fact that it had a single 8 gig stick of ddr4 in there which is apparently a massive cardinal sin for ryzen gaming performance but it still got me thinking was one of the main reasons that the performance was that bad was because it was a single 8 gig stick which basically combines a lack of memory capacity with a lack of memory bandwidth or are you gonna have equally terrible gaming performance if you have single channels 16 gigs of ram so that's basically what we're going to do in today's video and then after we do that we're going to see to what extent we can kneecap the performance of a ryzen system with one stick of ram now when it comes to the system that i'm going to use for today's video it's a reasonably high-end gaming system especially for the 1080p resolution that i'm going to do all the tests at as far as the cpu goes i've got a ryzen 7 3d x that i'm going to clock at 4.2 gigahertz i'm going to manually clock it there so that there's no frequency fluctuations that could affect any results when it comes to the ram i'm going to be using two different configurations uh the 16 gig kit that's got two 8 gig sticks in it is going to be this corsair ram that i'm going to clock at 3 200 megahertz i'm also going to match all of the cast latencies between the various configurations so that the only variable is going to be dual channel versus single channel and then when it comes to the single 16 gig stick i'm going to use this hyper x fury rgb i think it's called and this is also going to be running at 3 200 megahertz with the same cast latencies and then finally when it comes to the graphics card we're using this beefy rtx 2070 super which for 1080p gaming is is is pretty beastly just a quick note on the benchmarks before i show them uh the actual benchmark figures that i quote and the screen captures that i show were recorded on separate runs and i actually had to go back after the benchmarks to do a bunch of extra screen capture now the reason i mention this is because for some reason after i finished actually benchmarking all of this stuff the system just refused to boot with the manually set 4.2 gigahertz frequency for the cpu so for some of the screen capture you'll notice that the cpu is actually auto boosting it barely makes a difference it was only boosting about 70 megahertz higher than the 4.2 gigahertz and it doesn't really affect the performance much so the screen capture is still representative of the performance difference but yeah i just thought i'd point that out so with that let's get into the benchmarks the first game that i'm going to start off with is battlefield 5. now i'm starting with battlefield 5 because it performed horribly on that alienware system and it had really weird frame drops and stuff now as you can see going from two 8 gig sticks to one 16 gig stick you're losing about 20 of your performance which is a lot considering that that's the only difference but with a single 16 gig stick it is still very playable now moving over to crysis remaster which is a pretty badly optimized remaster if you ask me because even at like 1080p not with the highest settings in the optimum configuration on this system we're still only getting about 54 frames per second but when you drop to one 16 gig stick you lose quite a lot you go from 54 down to 43 frames per second and you can really feel the difference the the drops are a lot more noticeable flight simulator at 1080p also didn't have a great time on this system we're getting 40 frames per second with the 8x2 and then it dropped down to 32 frames per second on on the 16x1 it still is very playable but that's a pretty big drop finally looking at gta 5 it it lost quite a lot of performance as well we went down from 101 frames per second to 83 with the single 16 gig stick it's quite interesting because there seems to be a pretty similar drop in performance in all of these games going from the one configuration to the other and after looking at the benchmarks i think it's safe to say that ryzen really likes memory bandwidth i don't think anybody knew that going into this video so this is this is really very informative cutting edge stuff the thing is this still isn't repeated tire ironing to the kneecaps gaming performance these games lost about 20 percent of their frame rate but they're still very playable and we didn't get any weird lag spikes anywhere which i was really expecting so i'm going to take it a little bit further instead of running this single 16 gig stick at 3200 megahertz i'm going to drop it down to 2400 megahertz let's see what effect that has with a single gig stick now again i'm starting with battlefield v i'm only going to be comparing two benchmark results at a time so that we don't have too much information on the screen at any given time and as you can see here going from 3200 megahertz on a single stick to 2400 megahertz on a single stick again has around a 20 performance impact i'm actually surprised at how much of a difference that made on top of the single channel thing already so at this point we're getting significantly worse performance than we were with the optimum 8 by 2 gig configuration the game is still playable though and we don't have any weird lag spikes yet uh moving on to crisis remaster we're getting a reasonable drop in performance here although i don't think it's quite as big as the previous one going from 43 to about 33 megahertz at this point the game is feeling very sluggish but it's still kind of playable and there aren't any massive lag spikes uh flight simulator really took a dive here we're going from 32 frames per second to 25 now because of how flight simulator works 25 is surprisingly playable but this is is really starting to take a toll on microsoft flight simulator and then finally when it comes to gta 5 we went down from an average of 83 frames per second to an average of 66 which is a pretty big drop especially if you bear in mind that with the 2x8 gig optimum configuration system we were getting a hundred frames per second now considering the situation this is a really big drop in performance but all of these games are still playable except maybe for microsoft flight simulator that's really on the edge when you're getting to 25 frames per second um but yeah we're getting a big drop in performance here but it's still not kneecap to the genitals here which we got with the uh alienware system that system's gaming performance was a complete dumpster fire so unfortunately my lust for performance destruction hasn't been satisfied yet so i'm gonna try and get even worse performance from this single 16 gig stick and i think the best way to do that is to drop the memory speed down to 13 33 megahertz now that's very slow for ddr4 in fact to put that into context that is the base memory frequency of ddr3 so yeah let's see what that does when it comes to battlefield 5 we drop all the way down to 45 frames per second here and we're starting to get these weird frame drops and lag spikes and stuff like that so the game is starting to behave a bit weirdly here and bear in mind that we used to get 106 frames per second average with this system so yeah that's that's a pretty crazy drop in performance there moving on to crisis remaster oh 25 frames per second that's not looking good for this system again this is less than half we were getting with the optimum kind of configuration flight simulator is running at 17 frames per second which is pretty crazy and it's starting to get into slideshow territory although flight simulator is still kind of playable in 17 frames per second it's definitely not an optimum gaming experience but it's not entirely unplayable and again bear in mind we were getting 40 frames per second with the optimum configuration so again that's less than half the performance and then finally we have gta 5 which was giving us 50 frames per second average down from 101 of the optimum configuration unfortunately at the end of all of this my performance tire iron bloodlust hasn't really been satisfied yet yes we got two of these games to run at rtx 30 90 8k levels of performance but they were still reasonably playable even at an average of 25 or 17 frames per second i mean playable is a strong word but the frame rates were really stable we weren't getting weird artifacts like a massive frame dips and stuff like that and the same goes for battlefield 5 and gta 5. i really wanted to see this pc screech to a halt in the way that that alienware system did so my main takeaway from all of this is i'm actually really impressed with how well this ryzen cpu handled this situation even when it was massively starved from memory bandwidth it was still giving a very stable frame rate which which i think is impressive or albeit a bit disappointing for me and then the final takeaway from all of this is an rtx 2070 super at 1080p is a real beast i was testing all of these games at ultra settings and even when it lost 60 percent of its performance due to bottlenecks we were still getting playable results in most of these games so if you're gaming at high high settings at 1080p on an rtx 2070 super you really don't need to worry about upgrading to those newfangled rtx ampere cards because there's so much performance here and with that thank you very much for watching another very informative video if you like this video like subscribe to the channel share it with your friends and until the next video bye you