**The Challenges of Displaying Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness**
When it comes to watching movies on modern display devices, such as OLED TVs, there's no shortage of complexities that can affect the viewing experience. Take, for example, the recent release of Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Jason recently shared his experiences with watching this movie on a GC3 TV, which appeared "mushy smear" and "gross" due to poor signal quality or calibration issues.
Jason wondered if he was just experiencing buyer's remorse after spending $3000 on a high-end display device, only to be underwhelmed by its performance. He speculated that the Matrix switch used to distribute the video signal to multiple TVs could be a limiting factor, but he also suspected that the TVs were in showroom mode, which would amplify Vivid mode's over-brightening effect and cold color temperature. This, combined with motion smoothing and the "soap oper" effect, created a jarring viewing experience.
According to Jason, the issue is not just about the display device itself, but also how it processes video signals. Motion interpolation, used by some TVs to smooth out images, can create an unnatural look that's often referred to as the "soap opera effect." This effect occurs when the TV "fakes" video frames and inserts them into the original 24-frame-per-second signal, creating a jarring contrast with the more natural cadence of film. Jason believes that this is what he saw in his experience with Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness.
To mitigate this issue, Jason suggests trying to turn off motion smoothing on your TV or asking an associate to take it out of showroom mode, allowing you to see the display device in a more neutral state. He recommends filmmaker mode or Cinema mode for a better viewing experience. For those who have made the switch from plasma TVs to OLEDs and are experiencing similar issues, Jason reassures that the benefits of OLED far outweigh its faults.
**The Panasonic UB820 4K Blu-ray Player: A Reliable Choice**
Rodri recently shared his experiences with the Panasonic UB820 4K Blu-ray player, which he loves for its HDR Optimizer function. He's now considering investing in a more advanced player, such as the Maggiar UDP 800, to take advantage of high-end audio media formats.
However, Rodri is hesitant due to concerns about whether the Maggiar would offer significant improvements over his current Panasonic device. With no physical audio media that could benefit from the Maggiar's capabilities, he wonders if it's worth investing in a new player. Jason offers some sage advice: unless the Panasonic shows signs of age or causing issues, Rodri should stick with what he knows and loves.
For those who don't have a lot of physical audio media, Jason suggests sticking with their current player and avoiding upgrades based on video fidelity alone. However, if you do have access to advanced audio formats, a new player might be worth considering.
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enOn today's episode of you asked what is HDR really streaming 4K HDR10 Plus versus 4K Blu-ray with just HDR10 what's the difference between 4:2:0 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 color and why do OLED TVs look so terrible in the store welcome back everyone I'm Caleb Denison and this is You Asked the show where I answer questions that you asked and hopes that I can help you and others who have the same tech questions if you've got a question that you'd like to see answered on the show please send it to youasked@digitaltrends.com and I'll do my level best to get it answered also this episode has turned out to be a bit of an extended edition because we're going to dig into some science let's see how that plays out with you slap the video with a like if you dig it so I know okay let's get into it today we're going to start with two viewers asking more or less the same question and there are more like this in the You Asked inbox I'm sure of it it's a popular question one we've answered on the channel before but I think either we need to come back to it every six episodes or so or this is a good time to remind you to check out the channel playlist for the You Asked series we may have actually answered some of the questions that you have so go through there and look before sending me your question if you feel so inclined anyway Freddy writes I already know that quality can change among the different streaming services but quality also depends on your streaming box device and words can an Apple TV 4K or Nvidia Shield produce a better picture on the same app compared to the cheaper chomecast with Google TV or a Roku 4K device and Raphael asked will an Apple TV 4K provide better image and sound quality than the lgc1 built-in apps I know people say the ATV 4K has a better system but the LG doesn't bother me at all my main concern is with image quality and what about a PS5 okay the short answer is that the hardware you're using to stream your content whether that's the apps built into your TV or an inexpensive Streaming Stick or the premium streaming boxes that can have an impact on the quality of your video and audio but in many cases it's the platform that makes the difference the Amazon Prime video app for instance doesn't output the same quality video across every platform no surprise the best Amazon Prime video experience comes from an Amazon Fire TV device that's an instance of Amazon keeping the best for itself which I think is just rude other cases are less nefarious the Mac or Disney Plus app may look different streamed on a TCL Google TV versus a high sense Google TV versus a Sony Google TV and the apps on the Roku platform may work differently than those on the LG WebOS platform or the Samsung Tizen platform digging into the details of which platform has the best versions of a given app can get super messy as you'd imagine then there's the hardware consideration which is also messy I haven't seen much of a difference in video quality between say the Roku Streaming Stick 4K and the Roku Ultra unless the Roku ultra's ethernet connection overcame a Wi-Fi connection limitation but I have noticed that the chomecast with Google TV is consistent across TVs and sometimes ends up working better than the builtin Google TV apps on some TVs same for the Fire TV stick versus the Fire TV Cube on the Amazon platform most of the differences in the hardware aren't related to the quality of the video they deliver they tend to have to do with how fast apps load and other frilly features as you can see it's a bit of a mess if you start drilling down too deeply and frankly I think most folks are going to be very happy with a highquality external streamer on the longterm in general having that streaming device separated from the TV means that you can can update it independently you can replace it more inexpensively and as needed and that helps you keep up to date no matter what harder to do that when it's built into the TV those considerations alone make getting a decent Streaming Stick or dongle worth it plus streamy sticks and dongles are portable you can take them with you on vacations visits to relatives business trips Etc I mean I carry a chomecast with Google TV in my backpack for just such reasons but for home use on my main TVs I tend to use Apple TV 4K boxes the Apple TV 4K is not perfect for instance it doesn't support dtsx right now which Disney plus will soon support but overall it is the most stable reliable and consistently highquality experience out there and then there's all that Apple specific stuff if you're a heavy Apple user I also like the control that the Apple TV lets you leverage it lets you make sure that you're watching 24 FPS content at 24 FPS instead of having 30 or 60 FPS forced down your eyeholes which some streaming services and hardware will do to you anyway I fought the Apple TV tooth and nail in the early days because it was comically expensive compared to streaming sticks and even streaming boxes from competing Brands but in the end it has become my go-to for daily use and for TV testing oh and side note game consoles generally leave a lot to be desired as media streamers convenient definitely if you're a gamer first and a streamer distant second but I will never use a game console as a streamer for any long-term use I realized that was really long so let me just kind of shorten and encapsulate it for you most folks are not going to notice the difference in video or audio quality among most of the streaming sticks and boxes some of us have a real thing for the perfect video quality and if you just want an insurance policy I say buy the Apple TV 4K it's the best most consistent device across the board Felix from Germany says I use an Alienware AW3423DW that is the uh 34 in Alienware QD OLED monitor I'm surprised that I can use HDR even with the color depth set to 8bit I always thought 10-bit was necessary in your latest episode you said some panels are using frame rate control to display HDR even with the limits but I also found the tech called dithering Felix thanks for your question and this tees up another question question I'm going to answer a little later in this episode so it just fits in really nicely I love it when a plan comes together anyway frame rate control or FRC and dithering within the context of what we're talking about are the same thing what you're asking is how is HDR possible with 8bit color when I said that HDR required 10-bit color in a previous video and that is because some segments of the industry have decided that expanded luminous contrast the increase in the range between black and white and the greater number of steps in the brightness that's enough to qualify as HDR I do not agree and I'm not alone there are lots of other industry professionals and an increasing number of consumers who feel like 10 bit color should be part and parcel of the HDR designation however since the HDR police aren't out there slapping the cuffs on anyone who breaks the law because there really isn't a law you will see some monitors and TVs that claim to be h R capable even though they barely pull off HDR in any meaningful way by the way that Alienware QD OLED monitor is amazing and you should feed it the best HDR signal you can because it deserves it and so do you back to the color stuff in a moment first hasher says I recently just bought an S95C and was wondering what would be a better option for me to watch my movies movies on Prime video that are in HDR 10 plus and 4K or a 4K Blu-ray that is both 4K but just HDR and not HDR 10 plus there's no Dolby Vision on the TV so is it even possible to get a 4K Blu-ray that has HDR10 plus so I'll answer the second part of your question first yes there is a list of some 40 4K Blu-rays that do have HDR Plus on them and we'll link to that list below 40 ain't a lot though so there's a good chance that your decision is going to come down to you suffer the lower bit rate of streaming in favor of dynamic HDR10 plus metadata or you sacrifice HDR10 plus Dynamic metadata in favor of a high bit rate from a disc I actually really want to do a comparison on this I cannot say with certainty that I will stick to my guns on this but I'm going to go 4K Blu-ray as my preference I think the higher bit rate is going to offer a much cleaner look less color banding more detail less noise and the HDR is going to be pretty dang good even without the dynamic metadata that's where I stand right now however there is no arguing that the streaming option is probably quite a bit cheaper and still pretty freaking great so that could move the needle for you I don't know I would say if cost were no object or if you really like owning your content I'd buy the Blu-ray before the digital copy on Amazon every day of the week and twice on Sunday you know cuz Chick-fil-A ain't open thalis asks can can you explain a bit of the difference between RGB ycbcr4:2:2 and ycbcr4:4:4 and which one would be the best to use on a desktop monitor also do these affect TVs ooh let's have a color 101 lesson uh first off if you're not into the science report you can skip this but if you want to learn a little bit more about what all these numbers mean when you see them on TVs and monitors and cameras stick around so first let's talk about bit depth and then we'll talk about chroma subsampling because the two are often mentioned in the same bread especially on PCS and cameras color bit depth refers to the number of colors that can be captured by a camera or expressed on a display like a monitor or a TV and the number of colors is simple math right so we have three color primaries red green and blue in 8bit color there are 26 Shades each of red green and blue you multiply 256 * 256 6 * 256 and you get roughly 16.7 million colors that seems like a lot but then there's 10-bit color in which there are 1,24 Shades each of red green and blue you do that math and you get 1.07 billion with a B colors which is a whole lot more and to really Boggle your brain in 12bit color there are 4,096 Shades each mathing out to a dizzying 68.7 billion colors can you imagine what that crayon box would look like now understand that color information chrominance is Big Fat Cat information it takes a lot of space or bandwidth it takes way more space than luminance or black and white brightness information which actually works out just fine for us because we are way more sensitive to brightness changes or contrast than we are to color so in a video signal luminance information the black and white or grayscale is totally uncompressed because it is super important and it only takes up about onethird of the total bandwidth of that video signal color being the space hog that it is must be compressed however if we compress nothing we get 4:4:4 chroma now that's the bestest and there are very few sources of uncompressed color available to most folks the next next step down is 4:2:2 which has half the color information but is still a bit of a spacehog even at that and then we have 4:2:0 which is one qu of the color information still a bit of a spacehog but way more manageable 4:2:0 chroma subsampling is most of what we get on our TVs it's the spec for streaming and for 4K Blu-ray discs and we're all quite happy with that now game consoles can support 4:2:2 chroma because they're basically mini PCS but remember all that color information takes up a lot of space so if you boost up to 4:2:2 chroma you'll likely have to give up something somewhere else like frame rate for example now on a PC you may want to opt in for 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 if you can because you can see a difference especially with text over uniform colors but again depending on your setup and your use case pumping up the chroma subsampling may require trade-offs to other video performance that you don't necessarily want to make Jason wer writes that they're holding on to their 12-year-old Pioneer Kuro plasma but looking at OLED TVs in the store and says they look terrible and I quote the displays with lizards on the branches or honey dripping look astounding but when they show films they look like hot garbage I was recently in my local store and they were showing doctor strange and the Multiverse of Madness on an gc3 and it just looked mushy smear and gross is this because of poor signal quality or are they just poorly calibrated in the store if I would have spent 3K on one and it looked like that at home I would have buyer remorse okay Jason it's hard for me to know exactly what's going on at your local electronic store so I can only speculate I suppose it is possible that the Matrix switch that they use to distribute the video signal to multiple TVs could be some kind of limiting factor but what's most like ly is that the TVs are in showroom mode which means they'll basically be in Vivid mode and along with Vivid mode which over brightens everything and blows out color and applies a very cold color temperature none of which I particularly care for along with all of that comes motion smoothing and my guess is that what you saw was an extreme version of what we often call soap oper effect which has a jarring look to anyone who is used to a 24 frame per second film Cadence now a Remer to everyone watching that soap oper effect the byproduct of motion smoothing or motion interpolation is not the same as watching High frame rate video that was recorded at 60 FPS or higher the reason it isn't the same is because the smoothing involves faked video the TV is making up frames and inserting them and the result is well it's rarely good it's less annoying when the TV just has to double a 30 Fram per second TV signal because that that job is much easier than trying to take 24 and mathematically make it multiply evenly to 60 or 120 or 240 frames per second anyway my best guess is that's why you hate the look of OLED TVs at the store you're visiting you can always try asking an associate to take the TV out of showroom mode and let you see what it looks like when it's in filmmaker mode or Cinema mode not Cinema home though on an LG that leaves some of the motion smoothing on anyway there are lots of us out here myself included who made the move from plasma to OLED and are pleased as punch about it even though OLED introduces some new issues that plasma didn't have its benefits far outweigh its faults I made a video about plasma versus OLED that the button to click for that and we'll put it as a link down in the description as well rodri L strong writes I have the Panasonic ub820 4K Blu-ray player and I love it especially the HDR Optimizer function it has I'm on the fence about getting the magnetar UDP 800 but I don't know if it's something that I should invest in considering how well my Panasonic performs and I don't have any physical audio media that the magnetar could take advantage of I'd like your input should I stay with my Panasonic or should I take the leap with the magnetar so simple answer rodri stick with the Panasonic unless it's showing signs of age which it shouldn't cuz it's pretty new model or causing you some other issues of concern it's doing exactly the job you need to I would not buy a new player expecting a noticeable upgrade in video Fidelity if you had a lot of physical audio media that might be a different story but for playing 4K Blu-rays stick with what you have and what you already enjoy very much thanks as always for watching everyone what do you think of this week's episode to In The Weeds or is this the kind of deep Tech stuff that you like let me know down in the comments don't forget to like And subscribe I'll see you on the next one and until then here's two other videos I think you might likethat was clear as mud woo\n"