Nvidia GSync + FreeSync isn't perfect on non-validated monitors (Viotek GN32DR)

I was testing out NVIDIA's G-Sync technology with my precinct monitor and I had to say it was a pretty interesting experience. The system allows me to run games at higher refresh rates, such as 144Hz, without worrying about frame rate drops or tearing. In the past, I've been unable to maintain a locked 144 FPS on my GTX 1080, but with G-Sync enabled, I'm able to run Black Ops 4 and other games smoothly. The experience is actually quite similar to running at 120Hz, which was a smoother and more enjoyable experience for me in the past.

However, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. There are some issues that can occur with G-Sync enabled. One of the biggest problems I encountered was with Modern Warfare 2. After enabling the 4.17 driver update or whatever, my modded client wouldn't launch anymore. I'm not sure what's going on with this issue, but it's definitely something that needs to be addressed by NVIDIA.

Another strange issue I experienced was with Free Sync enabled games. Occasionally, my desktop cursor would start coming through the game, even when I wasn't looking at my monitor. It was as if the cursor was somehow "leaking" into the game world from my desktop. This only happened when my desktop and the game were running at different refresh rates, and it seemed to be more pronounced when I was switching between them quickly. I tried experimenting with different settings, but I couldn't seem to replicate this issue consistently.

I also noticed that if I left the Nvidia control panel open while in-game, it would periodically reload its status menu. This could potentially cause issues, especially if you're trying to play games without noticing any problems. On a related note, I tried disabling G-Sync in the Nvidia control panel and then resyncing my monitor, but for some reason, the display just kind of "grayed out" or went white after it came back online. This made it impossible to change any settings until I had to power cycle my monitor.

One thing that did surprise me was how well G-Sync performed with Macs and other non-NVIDIA hardware. In some games, I was able to crank up the resolution and settings without experiencing any issues or frame rate drops. It's clear that NVIDIA is working on improving compatibility with a wide range of hardware configurations.

Despite these issues, I have to say that G-Sync has been a game-changer for me when it works. The smoothness and responsiveness are unmatched, especially at higher refresh rates like 144Hz. However, it's not a silver bullet, and there will likely be ongoing issues with compatibility and performance optimization. As NVIDIA continues to work on improving the technology, I'm excited to see where it takes us in terms of gaming performance and display quality.

Finally, I want to note that G-Sync still has some limitations, such as issues with capture cards. These types of problems are likely going to persist until a solution is found, so users may need to be aware of these potential issues when deciding whether or not to use the technology. On the other hand, for those who don't have capture card issues, G-Sync can provide an unparalleled level of gaming smoothness and responsiveness.

If you're interested in learning more about NVIDIA's G-Sync technology, I recommend checking out my video on the announcement of support for Free Sync. This will give you all the details on which monitors are compatible with the feature, as well as any other relevant information. Additionally, if you missed it, check out my review of the Biotech Jee-in 32" dr monitor, which was a blast to test out and provide feedback on.

Last but not least, I recently posted a video on the best possible recording quality in Oh Es studio. If you're interested in learning more about high-quality gaming recording, be sure to check it out.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enOn January 15th 2019 just a couple days from now envy or yeah and in the past from now in video released a driver update which enabled Nvidia g-sync support with 12 validated free sync and adaptive sync monitors that don't actually have the G sync modules and then allow you the user to enable it for non validated monitors so pretty much if you have a free sync monitor and an Nvidia graphics card you can enable G sync on that monitor with varying results they have tested over 400 monitors so far and only 12 have matched their validation credentials now the assumption on the Internet has been well they just have some crazy absurd validation could you know requirements and that you can enable it on anything and it will work fine and to a degree that is true but while I did cover the announcement at CES when they announced that this support was coming I also just recently reviewed the biotech that called it a vo-tech in the brain company name is biotech G in 32 D our monitor which has free sync support my first in-house free sync monitor and I wanted to test this compatibility because I was like hey I'll get a free upgrade for something that I otherwise can't really utilize and it's not a hundred percent stable or well working and there's not a whole lot of videos of that happening on YouTube just yet so I wanted to cover this kind of alternate perspective of what actually happens when you're non-validated monitor isn't working quite right there's some little quirks here that we are going to explore now again your mileage may vary there's a lot that goes into it and your monitor could totally work fine and for a video of something like that which does a lot more testing of that kind of scenario I'm gonna point you to a video from digital foundry where their main guy Richard Ledbetter who stole my video title thank you hell has frozen over the end of days of honest parole has frozen over haha did a test with a non validated monitor but it was a 4k 61 and they kept frame rates between like the mid 40s to the 60 range and it was mostly stable and very nice and that kind of showed off as I was doing my testing for this stuff and so I want I want to point you to that for more of the right you know it's working the right way scenario best-case scenario I don't I'll point you more towards it not working right in kind of a different situation now this monitor does have a free sync range of 48 to 144 Hertz that will play into you know where your frame rate can lie that free sync will actually be utilized and then in order to actually use it you will need to go to your Nvidia control panel with the latest update and go to there there will be an actual g sync listing in your control panel now enabled g-sync comedy sync compatible and then down towards the bottom you select your display that has free sync it enabled g-sync for this display since it's not compatible hit apply and make sure that free sync is turned on in your monitors OSD settings of course and then enable vsync in your game because that's how a lot of it works is it P syncs to the G sync which adaptive syncs and there's other explanations you can look forward to that but let's jump to testing right after this Plex is the media streaming amp that beautifully organizes your media collections and lets you securely access them on all your screens now with live TV viewing and DVR click the link in the video description to learn more so before I get too crazy into this I did want to kind of put a disclaimer on this that my general overall gaming experience with this G sink setup enabled was fairly smooth and throughout the entire process I never once noticed any screen tearing which is partially the goal so I wanted to get that out of the way is that when it was working it worked amazingly but this is still definitely an example of why certain monitors aren't validated and what the experience will be like until it's improved or until you switch to a validated or better performing monitor my first experience with this free sync setup was when I was just clearing out and claiming the living story mission in Guild Wars soo and I didn't think anything of it at first but every time I mouse over the menu options like the close button in the search bar and different things and like my Nitori menu my entire cursor would just hang and frame rate would drop to like the 30s or just like one frame per second for a moment and just like totally hitch like crazy and this was only ever with g-sync enabled and it was only at 144 Hertz it's like it was for whatever reason even though this didn't happen with free sinker g-sync off and didn't happen at 120 Hertz with a hundred forty-four Hertz on this monitor with g-sync enabled moving the mouse over that like there was such a significant framerate change for some reason that it just like totally hitched and froze and lagged and it was a very sluggish and confusing experience and I have no clue why this is happening and in fact most of the issues that I did have where at least somewhat alleviated by switching to 120 to 120 Hertz in general instead of 144 even though vile tech claims this monitor has a free sync range of 48 to 144 another issue that I noticed was specifically in call of duty black ops 4 and then I noticed it later in Guild Wars and more frame and other games loading screens or anything that seems to just kind of sit at a locked 60fps for some reason which is all of the lobbies and loading screens and menus in black ops for some loading screens and menus and warframe the loading screens and Guild Wars 2 things like that there would be a lot of backlight flicker as if it was like working too hard to try to like drop it to the 60 frames 60 to 62 frames per second that the game was locking itself to it's very hard to capture on camera but you just get a whole lot of like it looks like the backlight is just flickering but this only happens with juicing on and only in these specific situations so I'm not really sure what's up there playing games like warframe which I didn't expect but having upgraded to the r-tx 2080 I am able to maintain a completely solid 144 Hertz 144 FPS apparently whereas previously I could maintain 120 FPS but not 144 on my 1080 when you know when you're not having significant frame changes you have no tearing warframe can be pretty prone to tearing with how fast it runs it ran very smooth and I had no major issues with warframe however during normal gameplay I never really had any issues with Guild Wars whatsoever and most of the time in call of duty black ops or black ops 4 I never really had any major issues but there were still some instances of hitching and jitter in some of the games and this was specifically I could notice spikes on the frame time graph when you started getting just like towards the 70s and 90s at 144 down to like 90 FPS everything seemed to run buttery smooth everything won't seem to be consistent most of the time but it did seem like I'm wanting to say that these were issues caused by like texture streaming or texture loading or something like that where normally you'd see a hitch in a game when it's loading new map data something like that like when I went to enough to load a new chunk in Guild Wars 2 it happened once or twice it's like when it starts loading something you'd normally get kind of a hitch anyway I'd start getting hitching that is a lower frame rate that this freesync stuff does not resolve and I don't know if it's supposed to given that it could theoretically be not directly related to just like raw rendering performance on the graphics card that being said there were still some occasional hiccups and hitches in black ops and in pub G when I was playing but 90% of the time was spent with it running smoothly and nice I had to really hub G has apparently updated quite nicely so I had to really crank up the settings but cranking it up I was able to get it at like full 1440p everything on max ultra settings and start running it at like 90 FPS or whatever and it felt fine like I've run I've specifically started lowering my refresh rate to say like 120 Hertz on monitors whenever my games can't hit the refresh rate that I'm hitting because it was a smoother experience this including black ops 4 on my GTX 1080 I was unable to maintain a locked 144 FPS and it was a smoother more nice feeling experience to run it at a hundred twenty Hertz this is no longer the case for mo to my gameplay if I enabled g-sync with this precinct monitor I am able to run it at 144 Hertz and it feels just as good as it did in 120 Hertz which is fairly significant and pretty nice and the same applies to pub key I was able to crank up the resolution and settings and keep it all on Macs and running in like the 90s some times and it was still running really smoothly so like I said it can work and it can be a game changer but when it doesn't work there is some very bizarre issues and ever since enabling the 4.17 driver update or whatever my modern warfare 2 modded client i w4x just refuses to launch anymore III don't know what's going on with that and I've had some other issues with some games where some weird stuff happens oh yeah with free sync enabled there is an issue where every once in a while and a couple games my desktop cursor would start coming through the game like the cursor even the in-game cursor and my desktop cursor would just kind of start showing up out of nowhere and some games I have no idea what's up with that but that was only something I could replicate with g-sync enabled and it was more agitated if I had game my games and my desktop at different refresh rates so since I was switching back and forth you know my desktop might be set 220 Hertz but my game was set 244 and that would further agitate this issue and caused the cursor to pop up more often that was really weird I don't know what's up with that or why that's happening and I tried I did not try switching it to for this specific issue I did not try switching it to enabling g-sync for windowed and full screen only full screen so maybe windowed in full screen would fix it so the desktop in the game are more in sync I don't really know and then I did notice that if you leave the Nvidia control panel up with the G sync menu it'll just like keep refreshing like the status of the monitor it'll just keep reloading it over and over so that can cause some issues if you have that up while you're in game but and I also had this really weird issue where when I turned off G sync in the Nvidia control panel and then turned off resync in the monitor itself it just like whited or grayed out after it came back and was completely unresponsive I couldn't change any menu settings and had to completely power cycle a monitor at which point it worked fine but that was really bizarre yeah overall this was pretty fun to test it was it was really nice it's one of those things that when you're playing and you're not specifically looking for it you're just kind of playing and waiting for something bad to happen you don't actually notice it working and that's how it's supposed to be use toggle on g-sync you toggle on vsync and your game just runs smooth and you never have to notice it and so that made it a little more difficult when I was actually getting into the game to like not realize that it's actually doing work but once I was like focusing on it and things like that and realizing what the experience I was having compared to what I had before it when it's working it runs really smoothly there's just some weird issues and perhaps in future driver updates even with my non-validated monitor this could improve they could improve the compatibility I assume they're gonna keep working on it and working with the monitor manufacturers and things like that so I'm excited for this new future of adaptive sync it still doesn't work with capture cards they're still always gonna be issues with that and I don't think it's entirely necessary because I was still happy for the most part running things at 120 Hertz especially since that makes it easier to line up with my camera recordings when it's in the background of a camera shot anyway but yeah I do hope you enjoyed this video if you did hit that like button subscribe for more tech education if they missed it go check out my video on the announcement of NVIDIA supporting free sync so you can get more details on that and see the monitor list and things like that go check out my review of this biotech jee-in 32 dr monitor i had a lot of fun with that review and I just recently posted a video on the best possible recording quality you can get in Oh es studio go check that out as well I'm a plus fox and I will see you in the next oneOn January 15th 2019 just a couple days from now envy or yeah and in the past from now in video released a driver update which enabled Nvidia g-sync support with 12 validated free sync and adaptive sync monitors that don't actually have the G sync modules and then allow you the user to enable it for non validated monitors so pretty much if you have a free sync monitor and an Nvidia graphics card you can enable G sync on that monitor with varying results they have tested over 400 monitors so far and only 12 have matched their validation credentials now the assumption on the Internet has been well they just have some crazy absurd validation could you know requirements and that you can enable it on anything and it will work fine and to a degree that is true but while I did cover the announcement at CES when they announced that this support was coming I also just recently reviewed the biotech that called it a vo-tech in the brain company name is biotech G in 32 D our monitor which has free sync support my first in-house free sync monitor and I wanted to test this compatibility because I was like hey I'll get a free upgrade for something that I otherwise can't really utilize and it's not a hundred percent stable or well working and there's not a whole lot of videos of that happening on YouTube just yet so I wanted to cover this kind of alternate perspective of what actually happens when you're non-validated monitor isn't working quite right there's some little quirks here that we are going to explore now again your mileage may vary there's a lot that goes into it and your monitor could totally work fine and for a video of something like that which does a lot more testing of that kind of scenario I'm gonna point you to a video from digital foundry where their main guy Richard Ledbetter who stole my video title thank you hell has frozen over the end of days of honest parole has frozen over haha did a test with a non validated monitor but it was a 4k 61 and they kept frame rates between like the mid 40s to the 60 range and it was mostly stable and very nice and that kind of showed off as I was doing my testing for this stuff and so I want I want to point you to that for more of the right you know it's working the right way scenario best-case scenario I don't I'll point you more towards it not working right in kind of a different situation now this monitor does have a free sync range of 48 to 144 Hertz that will play into you know where your frame rate can lie that free sync will actually be utilized and then in order to actually use it you will need to go to your Nvidia control panel with the latest update and go to there there will be an actual g sync listing in your control panel now enabled g-sync comedy sync compatible and then down towards the bottom you select your display that has free sync it enabled g-sync for this display since it's not compatible hit apply and make sure that free sync is turned on in your monitors OSD settings of course and then enable vsync in your game because that's how a lot of it works is it P syncs to the G sync which adaptive syncs and there's other explanations you can look forward to that but let's jump to testing right after this Plex is the media streaming amp that beautifully organizes your media collections and lets you securely access them on all your screens now with live TV viewing and DVR click the link in the video description to learn more so before I get too crazy into this I did want to kind of put a disclaimer on this that my general overall gaming experience with this G sink setup enabled was fairly smooth and throughout the entire process I never once noticed any screen tearing which is partially the goal so I wanted to get that out of the way is that when it was working it worked amazingly but this is still definitely an example of why certain monitors aren't validated and what the experience will be like until it's improved or until you switch to a validated or better performing monitor my first experience with this free sync setup was when I was just clearing out and claiming the living story mission in Guild Wars soo and I didn't think anything of it at first but every time I mouse over the menu options like the close button in the search bar and different things and like my Nitori menu my entire cursor would just hang and frame rate would drop to like the 30s or just like one frame per second for a moment and just like totally hitch like crazy and this was only ever with g-sync enabled and it was only at 144 Hertz it's like it was for whatever reason even though this didn't happen with free sinker g-sync off and didn't happen at 120 Hertz with a hundred forty-four Hertz on this monitor with g-sync enabled moving the mouse over that like there was such a significant framerate change for some reason that it just like totally hitched and froze and lagged and it was a very sluggish and confusing experience and I have no clue why this is happening and in fact most of the issues that I did have where at least somewhat alleviated by switching to 120 to 120 Hertz in general instead of 144 even though vile tech claims this monitor has a free sync range of 48 to 144 another issue that I noticed was specifically in call of duty black ops 4 and then I noticed it later in Guild Wars and more frame and other games loading screens or anything that seems to just kind of sit at a locked 60fps for some reason which is all of the lobbies and loading screens and menus in black ops for some loading screens and menus and warframe the loading screens and Guild Wars 2 things like that there would be a lot of backlight flicker as if it was like working too hard to try to like drop it to the 60 frames 60 to 62 frames per second that the game was locking itself to it's very hard to capture on camera but you just get a whole lot of like it looks like the backlight is just flickering but this only happens with juicing on and only in these specific situations so I'm not really sure what's up there playing games like warframe which I didn't expect but having upgraded to the r-tx 2080 I am able to maintain a completely solid 144 Hertz 144 FPS apparently whereas previously I could maintain 120 FPS but not 144 on my 1080 when you know when you're not having significant frame changes you have no tearing warframe can be pretty prone to tearing with how fast it runs it ran very smooth and I had no major issues with warframe however during normal gameplay I never really had any issues with Guild Wars whatsoever and most of the time in call of duty black ops or black ops 4 I never really had any major issues but there were still some instances of hitching and jitter in some of the games and this was specifically I could notice spikes on the frame time graph when you started getting just like towards the 70s and 90s at 144 down to like 90 FPS everything seemed to run buttery smooth everything won't seem to be consistent most of the time but it did seem like I'm wanting to say that these were issues caused by like texture streaming or texture loading or something like that where normally you'd see a hitch in a game when it's loading new map data something like that like when I went to enough to load a new chunk in Guild Wars 2 it happened once or twice it's like when it starts loading something you'd normally get kind of a hitch anyway I'd start getting hitching that is a lower frame rate that this freesync stuff does not resolve and I don't know if it's supposed to given that it could theoretically be not directly related to just like raw rendering performance on the graphics card that being said there were still some occasional hiccups and hitches in black ops and in pub G when I was playing but 90% of the time was spent with it running smoothly and nice I had to really hub G has apparently updated quite nicely so I had to really crank up the settings but cranking it up I was able to get it at like full 1440p everything on max ultra settings and start running it at like 90 FPS or whatever and it felt fine like I've run I've specifically started lowering my refresh rate to say like 120 Hertz on monitors whenever my games can't hit the refresh rate that I'm hitting because it was a smoother experience this including black ops 4 on my GTX 1080 I was unable to maintain a locked 144 FPS and it was a smoother more nice feeling experience to run it at a hundred twenty Hertz this is no longer the case for mo to my gameplay if I enabled g-sync with this precinct monitor I am able to run it at 144 Hertz and it feels just as good as it did in 120 Hertz which is fairly significant and pretty nice and the same applies to pub key I was able to crank up the resolution and settings and keep it all on Macs and running in like the 90s some times and it was still running really smoothly so like I said it can work and it can be a game changer but when it doesn't work there is some very bizarre issues and ever since enabling the 4.17 driver update or whatever my modern warfare 2 modded client i w4x just refuses to launch anymore III don't know what's going on with that and I've had some other issues with some games where some weird stuff happens oh yeah with free sync enabled there is an issue where every once in a while and a couple games my desktop cursor would start coming through the game like the cursor even the in-game cursor and my desktop cursor would just kind of start showing up out of nowhere and some games I have no idea what's up with that but that was only something I could replicate with g-sync enabled and it was more agitated if I had game my games and my desktop at different refresh rates so since I was switching back and forth you know my desktop might be set 220 Hertz but my game was set 244 and that would further agitate this issue and caused the cursor to pop up more often that was really weird I don't know what's up with that or why that's happening and I tried I did not try switching it to for this specific issue I did not try switching it to enabling g-sync for windowed and full screen only full screen so maybe windowed in full screen would fix it so the desktop in the game are more in sync I don't really know and then I did notice that if you leave the Nvidia control panel up with the G sync menu it'll just like keep refreshing like the status of the monitor it'll just keep reloading it over and over so that can cause some issues if you have that up while you're in game but and I also had this really weird issue where when I turned off G sync in the Nvidia control panel and then turned off resync in the monitor itself it just like whited or grayed out after it came back and was completely unresponsive I couldn't change any menu settings and had to completely power cycle a monitor at which point it worked fine but that was really bizarre yeah overall this was pretty fun to test it was it was really nice it's one of those things that when you're playing and you're not specifically looking for it you're just kind of playing and waiting for something bad to happen you don't actually notice it working and that's how it's supposed to be use toggle on g-sync you toggle on vsync and your game just runs smooth and you never have to notice it and so that made it a little more difficult when I was actually getting into the game to like not realize that it's actually doing work but once I was like focusing on it and things like that and realizing what the experience I was having compared to what I had before it when it's working it runs really smoothly there's just some weird issues and perhaps in future driver updates even with my non-validated monitor this could improve they could improve the compatibility I assume they're gonna keep working on it and working with the monitor manufacturers and things like that so I'm excited for this new future of adaptive sync it still doesn't work with capture cards they're still always gonna be issues with that and I don't think it's entirely necessary because I was still happy for the most part running things at 120 Hertz especially since that makes it easier to line up with my camera recordings when it's in the background of a camera shot anyway but yeah I do hope you enjoyed this video if you did hit that like button subscribe for more tech education if they missed it go check out my video on the announcement of NVIDIA supporting free sync so you can get more details on that and see the monitor list and things like that go check out my review of this biotech jee-in 32 dr monitor i had a lot of fun with that review and I just recently posted a video on the best possible recording quality you can get in Oh es studio go check that out as well I'm a plus fox and I will see you in the next one\n"