**The Great Zip Tie Debate: Cheap vs Expensive**

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These zip ties cost over $300.

And these zip ties only cost about a dollar.

(dramatic music)

(metal slashes)

Jeremiah yells:

But why would you spend $300 on zip ties when you can just go to Harbor Freight and get the cheap ones?

Today, we're testing these and a bunch of other tools to figure out if you really need to spend more money or if you can get away with the cheap stuff.

(hard rock music)

Oh, there's some stuff stuck in here.

I'm Jeremiah. He's Zach.

Welcome to Donut.

We have 10 zip ties that are currently holding this engine up, and a pack of a hundred of these zip ties cost $304.

Now, the reason they're so expensive is because they're made out of Tefzel.

Tefzel, it's just a brand name type of plastic that's really resistant to corrosive elements.

These zip ties, these cost $1.89 for a hundred of them at good old Harbor Freight.

They're just a standard nylon zip tie.

But both of these zip ties are rated at a tensile strength of 50 pounds.

Now, we weighed this engine. It weighs in at just over 400 pounds.

So we're gonna cut one zip tie at a time and see how many zip ties are left when this thing drops to the ground.

I'm gonna cut the first one off.

Okay.

(tense electronic music)

Simultaneously really like this and hate it.

Okay, you ready?

Yep.

Going down to eight.

Oh God.

So nine. It takes nine.

It takes nine.

All right, so we're strapping up our cheap Harbor Freight zip ties now.

And we've put 15 on there just in case 10 can't do it.

Since these are so much cheaper, the concern is that they're not gonna do as good as the expensive ones.

So we're starting with 15 here, but you know what?

I have faith that we're gonna get down to seven zip ties before this engine drops.

We're halfway through that.

I'm trying to only get one at a time.

Okay. 14.

Okay. 13. 10, ooh, that had some... That had a little pop to it.

If we get one more, they're even with $300 zip ties.

Okay, so this takes us down to nine?

This takes us down to nine.

Oh!

So it's better.

We failed at nine last time.

Failed clipping to eight.

We're even Stevens right now.

Okay.

So this is for all the marbles.

This is for all the marbles.

This is the take the lead.

Oh!

Yeah! Seven zip ties before this engine drops.

(Jeremiah yells)

(Jeremiah screams)

Six!

What can't they do?

Five?

There she was.

That's a fricking win.

I've cut through 11 of these zip ties.

I was cutting the fifth to leave four zip ties holding the engine up when it fell.

That's a huge improvement over your expensive, insane zip ties.

In all, how much were these?

A dollar -- Buck 89, baby.

For a buck 89, you can't go wrong if you need to hoist your engine with some zip ties.

All right, Zach.

So clearly Harbor Freight takes the W in this case.

But the real reason these are so expensive is something we're gonna get to right after this message from our sponsor.

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WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en- These zip ties cost over $300.- And these zip tiesonly cost about a dollar.(dramatic music)(metal slashes)(Jeremiah yells)- But why would you spend $300 on zip tieswhen you can just go to Harbor Freightand get the cheap ones?- Today, we're testing theseand a bunch of other toolsto figure out if you reallyneed to spend more moneyor if you can get awaywith the cheap stuff.(hard rock music)Oh, there some stuff stuck in there.I'm Jeremiah. He's Zach.Welcome to Donut.Now, we have 10 zip tiesthat are currently holding this engine up,and a pack of a hundred ofthese zip ties cost $304.Now, the reason they're so expensiveis because they're made out of Tefzel.And Tefzel, it's just abrand name type of plasticthat's really resistantto corrosive elements.- Now, these zip ties, these cost $1.89for a hundred of 'em atgood old Harbor Freight.They're just a standard nylon zip tie,but both of these zip ties are ratedat a tensile strength of 50 pounds.Now, we weighed this engine.It weighs in at just over 400 pounds.So we're gonna cut one zip tie at a timeand see how many zip ties are leftwhen this thing drops to the ground.I'm gonna cut the first one off.- Okay.(tense electronic music)(Jeremiah and Zach laughing nervously)- Simultaneously reallylike this and hate it.Okay, you ready?- Yep.- Going down to eight.Oh God.(engine slams)So nine. It takes nine.- It takes nine.- All right,so we're strapping up our cheapHarbor Freight zip ties now.And we've put 15 on therejust in case 10 can't do it.Since these are so much cheaper,the concern is that they'renot gonna do as goodas the expensive ones.So we're starting with 15here, but you know what?I have faith that we're gonna get downto seven zip ties beforethis engine drops.We're halfway through that.I'm trying to only get one at a time.Okay. 14.Okay. 13,10, ooh, that had some...That had a little pop to it.- If we get one more,they're even with $300 zip ties.- Okay, so this takes us down to 9?- This takes us down to nine.- Oh!- So it's better.We failed at nine last time.- Failed clipping to eight.- We're even Stevens right now.- Okay.- So thisis for all the marbles.- This is for all the marbles.This is the take the lead.- Oh!- Yeah!Seven zip ties before this engine drops.(Jeremiah yells)(Jeremiah screams)- Six!- What can't they do?Five?- There she was.- That's a fricking win.I've cut through 11 of these zip ties.I was cutting the fifthto leave four zip ties holdingthe engine up when it fell.That's a huge improvementover your expensive, insane zip ties.- In all, how much were these?A dollar-- Buck 89, baby.- For a buck 89, you can't go wrongif you need to hoist yourengine with some zip ties.All right, Zach.So clearly Harbor freighttakes the W in this case.But the real reason these are so expensiveis something we're gonna get toright after this message from our sponsor.Thanks to "Raid: Shadow Legends"for sponsoring today's video.- This is the besttime to get started in "Raid."And if you click the link belowor scan the QR code on screen,you'll get unique bonuses worth $30.We're talking a free Epic Champion, Aina,plus 20,000 silver,one Energy Refill, one XPBoost, and one Ancient Shard.- "Raid: Shadow Legends"is full of exciting battleswith kings and wizards,but don't take it from me.I got my buddy Deathknighthere to tell you.- Oh yeah, we...We're old childhood friends.Good buddies. 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That's pretty cool.- They're able to withstandhigher temperatureand still maintain their tensile strength.All right, so Jobe issetting up our rig here.What we have is a bucket.We're gonna put 50 pounds in it,and it's gonna be suspendedby either Harbor Freightor the expensive zip tie.We have a heat gun that'sgonna be blasting heatdirectly onto the zip tie itself.So we're gonna see which onecan stand up to the heat the longest.Here we go.Three, two, one, go.(heat gun whirring)♪ Ever since I was little ♪♪ Ever since I was littleI would look like fun ♪(bell dings)(Jeremiah chuckles)13.63 seconds.All right, you ready, Jobe?- Yeah. Are you ready?- Yeah.Three, two, one.(intense percussion music)(heat gun whirring)- That was quick.All right, Jer, what do you think?Which one's going in the toolbox?Which one you stashing?Which one you trashing?- Dude, I'm stashing ol' HF,all day, every day.- 100%.- No way am I paying $3 a zip tie.(party favor bleats)(people cheering)- Okay, now we're testing air hammers.I've got my Harbor Freight unit, $12.99.- And I got my Jupiter Pneumatic$277 pneumatic air hammer.- Hey, yours is longer.- It is, it's got a longer snout.- Now, an air hammer is agreat tool for doing thingsthat you would do with a hammer,but just by pulling a trigger,you can do it hundreds of times a minute.And these fit into tight spaceswhere it's hard to swing a hammer.Right off the rip, this feels,it feels like a standard air tool.It's cheap, but that's whatHarbor Freight's known for.- Okay, so let's talk some specs.This is around four CFM.- Cubic feet of air per minuteis just the rate of usage of air.These are compressed air tools,so knowing how much airthey consume as you use 'emis important because thatlets you know whether or notyour compressor can handle running them.- Well, Jobe, we actuallyhave some studs right here.- Spectacular.- And what we're gonna dois we're gonna time how fastwe can hammer out these studson this wheel spacer, yeah, but...(air hissing)- Three, two, one, go.(lively dance music)(music slows and fades)- You wanna try it?- I mean, listen-- Come on.- Honestly-- You give ita (beep) whirl.- It looks like you're doingeverything you could do.- Three, two, one.(flatulence bleats)(lively dance music)(air hammer slamming)25 seconds.- It's all in the hips, Jer.- I'm leanin' like amother (beep) in the hips.(air hammer slamming)- Heads up.(air hammer slamming)- Okay.Now we've got a fresh spacerwith five fresh studs.We're gonna try it withthe Harbor Freight gun,time it, see who comes out victorious.That one is not coming out.Hasn't moved at all.Let's try another.I think that stud is stuck.All right, well, interestingresults, I guess.Expensive gun worked better.So I don't know.I mean, this is the type of thingwhere it's like if you needa light duty air hammerthat you're gonna use onceor twice, 13 bucks is fine.But if you're workingon cars all the time,and this is a tool thatyou intend to use a lot,I would probably spend the money.- You know what else I liketo use around the shop?- What?- If I'm not hammering, I'm drilling.- Oh. All right.Up next, we're testing drill bits.I've got a $19 set of titaniumcoated drill bits herefrom Harbor Freight.- I have a $250 set ofChicago-Latrobe Cobalt,and these are actually straw oxide coated.- Whoa.- Do you know what that is?- Uh-uh.- Me either.(Jeremiah and Zach laugh)- Let's see. What do we got?So I've just got a standard little point.Yeah, they look pretty similar.You've got that secondary angle there,which is probably meantfor cutting and ejecting,I would think.- Yeah, that's anejector hole right there.- All right, for the first test,we're gonna drill 50holes into the deck lidof this Chrysler Sebringusing a drill bit from the cheap kitand a drill bit from the expensive kit.When we're done, we'll inspectthe quality of the holes.We'll inspect the drillbit for wear and damage.And we're also gonna time the whole thing,see which one does it quicker,which is kind of an indicatorof sharpness and durability.- Speed matters here at the tool party.- Speed's all that matters.(lively horn music)Are you ready?- Ready.- Drill!(drill whirring)Oh, that was...(drill whirring)- 24?Oh!- 25 holes.- One minute, 44 seconds,and 44 one hundredths.- Hell yeah.Okay.Ready, set, go.(drill whirring)Ooh, that-- Time.- Oh, she's bent now.- Oh, you bent her.1:32:18.- Okay, so I beat ya.I beat you in time.And honestly, a lot of these holeslook a little bit cleaner than yours.The holes still stayedpretty circular and cleanfor a bent drill bit, but youdon't want a bent drill bit.I mean, in my opinion,that bit is now trash.- Chicago-Latrobe hole.- And that's a Harborfreight bent bit hole.And this is a prettypristine Chicago-Latrobeout of a $250 set makingholes that look like this.All right, Jerry.So the quality of your holesisn't quite what I was expecting,but this is pretty normal use.I think we shouldtorture test these thingsand see how they stand up.- Let's get torture.(men screaming)- You've got a wrench here,which is made outta tool steel.Very durable, hard to drill through,and we're gonna drill throughit pretty badly, really,the way that you shouldn't.We're gonna do it quick.No lube. Full speed.See what wears out.- Just smashing down on it.- All right, so up first isour Harbor Freight drill bitout of a kit for $18.99.Okay. Let's go.(intense orchestra music)Now we're cookin'. Here we go.Oh, she's smokin'.Oh, look at that.That was cool.- What, did it break off?- It melted.We went orange-red, we gotlike red hot down at the tip.Then it did like a bend thing.The drill bit bent, it looked like,and then kinda snapped back to straight.- It caught it, huh?- It literally didn't do much of anything.Cheap drill bit woreabout like I would expecta spaghetti noodle to wear.It didn't really do anythingat all, just melted,and it doesn't look like therewas ever a sharp tip there.So that's an absolute failure.I'm really interested to seewhat your expensive bit does.- Okay.- Shall we?- Let's do it.(explosion booms)Okay. You ready?(drill press whirring)(intense orchestra music)Yeah.(Jeremiah laughs)Ah, that's awesome.- That's a round tipped bit.- A round tip bit.- But it did make some, you know-- It made a hole.- Yeah, it made a hole.It did remove some tool steel.- That was cool.- You can seehow blue it all is.I mean, that's not the wayto work with this material,but it did a pretty good job.Got about at least halfway through,I would say before the bit overheated,dulled out, and totally rounded off.- We welded her over.- Oh, that looks cool though.- It does.You know, you might, if you're good,you could probably sharpen that.- If you're drilling often,and it's something like ifyou have a drill press set upand you commonly are moving through metaland stuff like that,you want something that'sgonna be able to do thatrepeatedly over time.What we did here wasaccelerate wear, right?You know, imagine drilling throughsheet metal a thousandtimes, and doing it properly,that cheap drill bit wouldwear down over that time.But I'm not sure.I think the more expensivewould do a lot better.And by the way, we filmeda way deeper analysison these drill bitsthat we couldn't fit all into this video.So we're gonna post thaton the Donut Underground.For more information on that,hit the Join button down below.Up next, we're testing shop vacs.I got a $60 unit here madeby Bauer from Harbor Freight.- And I have a $620 unit,Shop-Vac, brand name Shop-Vac.- Why is yours so big?- I don't know.What the Lord gave me.- Yeah, you spent six times the money.- I know, so does it havesix times the sucking power?- Not about the size of the sucker.- All right, so we havea nice little test herethat Canaan and Jimmy set up.Sand, sand with a little bit of debris.That looks like a cigarette butt.- It is.- Nice.And then we have various fasteners,and hardware, and more trash,and what looks like a bigGrave Digger there, which-- Yeah, I don't know ifthat's gonna make it through.- So we're gonna go hiteach line individually,one at a time, and then we'regonna time how long it takesto suck all the sand and debris up.Does that sound good?- Sounds great.- Well, let's see.(vacuum whirs)Are you ready?- Yeah, I'm revvin' it.That's howyou know I'm ready.- Three, two, one.Go.(intense percussion music)(vacuum whirring)- Looks pretty good, Jobe.- Yeah, it's moving a littleslower than I thought it might,but that's because I'm sodown on power, you know?- Right.(intense percussion music)(vacuum whirring)Oh, sucking up the nuts andbolts like it's nothing.- Oh, there's somestuff stuck in there.Uh-oh.- 52 seconds.Uh-oh.And total, Jobe, three minutes, 11 secondsto do three lines.- Hey, not bad.- Not bad, but you know what?- Let's see how your 10 timesmore expensive shop vac does.Three, two, one, suck!- What the (beep)?- What?- It isn't sucking that great.- It's on you, dog.Ooh, he's being impeded by the chunks.All right, Jerry,so you beat me by a coupleof seconds here and there.Is that worth all themoney you spent on it?- Heck no, man.Are you kidding me?If you're gonna pay that much more money,you want that much more performance,and this vacuum, to becompletely honest with you,is a little bit of a letdown in that.I thought for sure I'd just be (grunting).Final test of the day.We're gonna dunk these endsinto this five gallon fish tank,see which one sucks upthat water the fastest.So are you ready?- First one to an empty tank wins?- Three, two, one, go.(intense percussion music)(vacuums whirring)- I got you by a 10thof a second, at least.And mine's drier.Easily drier.Argue that, Jerry.- Well, you know what?That is a super bummer.- For you.- I know.Actually, you know what?That's kinda good news.It shows that you don'thave to necessarily spendas much dang money to getjust as good of a tool.- 620 bucks for this thing.it doesn't suck any faster.So I don't know.This is a pretty clear winner.I think the Bauer takes the cake-- At a 10th of the price.- At a 10th of the price.- Even if it was slower,still the winner in my mind.650 bucks is insane to me.It would've had to like pick a car up.- What's up, guys?We got a brand new item on donutmedia.com,this sick Real Mechanic Stuff hat.This thing is custommade in the U.S. of A.It's not a blank. 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