The Beauty and Brutality of War: An Analysis of Virginia Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway"

As I delved into the pages of Virginia Woolf's iconic novel, "Mrs. Dalloway," I was struck by the complexity and nuance of her prose. The narrative weaves together the threads of human experience, revealing the intricate dance between beauty and brutality that defines our existence. The character of Septimus Warren Smith, a shell-shocked veteran struggling with PTSD and depression, stands at the forefront of this exploration.

Septimus's mental state is a masterclass in Woolf's ability to capture the inner turmoil of the human psyche. His thoughts are a jumbled mess of despair, anxiety, and desperation, as he grapples with the crushing weight of his own mortality. As I read through the pages, I felt like I was witnessing a character in the midst of a catastrophic breakdown. Woolf's prose is both poetic and painful, conveying the suffocating sense of claustrophobia that comes with feeling trapped by one's own emotions.

The relationship between Septimus and Dr. Holmes is particularly noteworthy. On the surface, it appears to be a standard doctor-patient dynamic, but beneath lies a complex web of power struggles and emotional manipulation. Dr. Holmes, with his imposing figure and condescending demeanor, represents the very institution that Septimus feels has failed him. His patronizing tone and dismissive attitude towards Septimus's mental illness serve only to exacerbate the veteran's feelings of isolation and despair.

Woolf's portrayal of the doctor-patient relationship is a scathing critique of the medical establishment's handling of mental health issues in the early 20th century. The author skillfully exposes the flaws in the system, revealing how doctors like Dr. Holmes often view their patients as anomalies rather than human beings worthy of empathy and understanding. This lack of compassion has devastating consequences for Septimus, who is ultimately driven to suicidal despair by the very people meant to help him.

The scene in which Septimus throws himself over the railing of the house is both heartbreaking and infuriating. The cowardice with which he chooses his own demise serves as a stark indictment of the societal norms that demand men maintain a mask of strength, even in the face of unimaginable suffering. Woolf's depiction of this moment is unflinching and devastating, leaving the reader to grapple with the consequences of Septimus's actions.

In contrast, the character of Clarissa Dalloway represents a beacon of hope and resilience. Her calm and composed demeanor serves as a counterpoint to Septimus's turmoil, offering a glimpse into the world of those who have escaped the ravages of war. Woolf's portrayal of Clarissa is particularly noteworthy, as she embodies the very qualities that Septimus lacks: emotional intelligence, empathy, and a deep understanding of human nature.

The relationship between Clarissa and Sally Seton is another highlight of the novel. Their conversation on the staircase is a masterclass in subtlety, conveying the complex web of emotions and desires that underlie their interactions. The way they navigate each other's company, avoiding topics that might disrupt the fragile balance of their friendship, speaks volumes about the delicate dance of human relationships.

As I delved deeper into the world of "Mrs. Dalloway," I began to appreciate the complexity and nuance of Woolf's prose. Her writing is a masterful exploration of the human condition, revealing the intricate beauty that exists within even the most broken of souls. The novel is a powerful indictment of societal norms and the medical establishment's handling of mental health issues, but it is also a testament to the resilience of the human spirit.

As I reached the end of this section of the novel, I felt a sense of sadness and loss. Septimus's fate serves as a stark reminder of the devastating consequences of mental illness, and the ways in which society can fail those who struggle with their own demons. But it also left me with a renewed sense of hope and appreciation for the complexities of human nature. Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway" is a work of genius that continues to resonate today, offering a profound exploration of the human condition that will leave readers moved, inspired, and perhaps even transformed.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello friends welcome back to my channel today is the third video in my series on the real long of mrs. Dalloway so we're using the hardcore Edition so as always I'm going to be calling out numbers Dillons behind me so you're probably gonna see some sort of Corgi doing something back there but you know just just gonna keep going okay so we left the story with looking at Septimus Warren Smith's experience with the different doctors and so we're leaving that scene or we're moving to the luncheon where Richard doll away the title character's husband is going to luncheon with Lady Bruton alright so we're at this dinner with her and we learned very quickly that she enjoys having men over to lunch which is very interesting and so we also get a little bit of a view of Clarissa Dalloway from the outside and that experience and so she's thinking about having Richard Dalloway over and on page 104 where we're starting she says she had never had this head it says she had never seen at the sense of cutting people up as Clarissa Dalloway did cutting up and sticking them together again not at any rate when one was 62 so but you know she's 62 years old she's an older lady and so that's where we go so there's also cute he was been mentioned in the sidelines a little bit Clarissa Richard Peter and Sally all knew him when he was younger everyone pretty makes fun of him because he's not very intelligent and he says awkward things and who knows what else so they're at lawton luncheon and Lainey Bruton says how's Clarissa she asked abruptly Clarissa always said Lady Burton did not like her indeed lady Bruton had the reputation of being more interested in politics than people of talking like a man of having had a finger in some notorious intrigue of the 80s which is now beginning to be mentioned in memoirs and so we get this sense from her that she likes to have men over and kind of glean from their intelligence as men and we're also gonna see some of the other reasons why she likes to have men over and I don't mean any sort of sexual sense it's more of a gender play since we've talked a little bit about this but most people talk about this novel as far as the cognitive goings-on of each of the characters and how different they are and how well Virginia Woolf has written these characters but one of the things that's often overlooked it's a critique of the Society of the time we know that Virginia Woolf was very angry that as a woman she did not get the education she wanted it's her opinions we're not taking us seriously as she wanted them to and in fact when she was critiqued in literature at the time her contemporaries they would call her mrs. wolf as opposed to just wolf it was like a reminder I slap in the face that she was indeed a woman and not equal to other people in writing so she had a lot to say about gender and I think that's what she does not just in this book but throughout her books this one in particular when she's looking at a woman who is the ideal society woman mrs. Dalloway she has other characters as foils to Clarissa and one of them is Lady Bruton we see down here on page 106 now thus when she said in her offhand way house corsa husbands had difficulty in persuading their wives and indeed however devoted were secretly doubtful themselves of her interest in women who often got in their husband's way prevented them from accepting posts abroad and had to be taken to the seaside in the middle of the session to recover from influenza nevertheless her inquiry housed Clarissa was known by women affably to be a signal from a well-wisher from the most silent from a normal silent companion whose utterances half a dozen perhaps in the course of a lifetime signified recognition of some feminine comradeship which went beneath masculine lunch parties and United lady Bruton and mrs. Dalloway who seldom met and appeared when they did to me indifferent and even hostile in a singular bombed intrigue so we see that Lady Bruton is this character who is seen as a masculine lunch party and that she's immediately ostracize herself from other women because of her desire to talk to men and talk about politics and for women to be interested in politics was a big deal which is why I find it interesting you also see that at the bottom of 106 they talk about Peter Walsh they all smiled Peter Walsh and mr. Dalloway was generally glad Bruges thought and Mister Whitbread thought only his chicken for Hugh he's struggled so we see that Richard knows that Peter was very much in love with Corsa Dalloway we see that the top of 107 Richard Dalloway remembered the same thing how passionately Peter had a been in love and rejected and gone to India so we see that and he talks about how Peter Walsh was in love with her and that he would tell her in so many words that he loved her this begins a really internal turmoil you could almost see with Richard Dalloway now Richard Dalloway was in Virginia Wolf's first book the voyage out and at the time Clarissa was sick and Richard Dalloway slight spoiler ends up kissing the protagonist I believe yeah the woman he kisses the protagonist and that has always bothered me and my my professor would be like why do you even care this has nothing to do with the rest of the book but I'm like has everything to do with mrs. Dalloway that's why and it's like why did he kiss that woman when he was with charissa obviously something is missing from that relationship if he went and kissed another woman besides just being you know a man feelings so we see here that I'm not gonna read you all the different sections well we see one on page 108 that she writes letters to the editor and that she asked the men to look over it for her to send in it says but she had to write the one letter to the time she used to say miss brush cost her more than the organized an expedition into South Africa which she had done in the war after a morning's battle beginning tearing up beginning again she used to feel the futility of her own womanhood as she felt in no other occasion and would turn gratefully to the thought of Hugh Whitbread who was asked no one could doubt it the art of writing letters to the times which is funny because on page 108 we see he was very slow lady Bruton thought and I just laughed so hard because she's using this very slow man to edit her letters to make them more I don't know masculine maybe so it says here lady Bruton offered suspended judgment upon men in deference to the mysterious to which they but no woman stood in the laws of the universe knew knew how to put things knew what was said so that if Richard by Sir Hugh wrote for her she was sure to sure of being somehow right so even though she is a more masculine woman and she has these luncheons and all these different things she still uses men as kind of like this filter to help her enter politics that she's still in some way believes that men are superior to her in some of these ways including politics and these more masculine circles and I just find that very sad because even though she has done so many things in her life and gone out and done different things and intrigue blah blah blah she still feels like she needs men to be that filter for her so we can see that throughout and then you know Richard asks her about the party then we go here and we look at lady Bruton again on page 112 it talks about her on page 112 it talks about her power you can see it's his power was service position income and she talks about men and how that she's able to get power from them and I just find her a very interesting older woman like I would love like I know there I think there's a movie of this somewhere I would love to see that and see how that looks out then you have Richard and we see Richard walking through the street and he's gonna pick up flowers so it says on page 115 but he wanted to come in holding something flowers yes flowers now flowers have an interesting symbol throughout the book because normally we typically see them with Stanley Seaton as these sit like you know mrs. Dalloway is going to buy flowers Sally Seaton you know she picks a flower around time when Sally Seaton kisses her we heat picks up red roses and you can see throughout the section he said here he was walking across London to say to Clarissa and so many words that he loved her and he repeated that it was a miracle as miracle that he married Clara a miracle and he was walked across the park to tell his wife that he loved her and burying the flower is like a weapon and you could see this lake turner turmoil of him coming in and he comes in it talks about how he had once been jealous of Peter Walsh and we learn more about his view of that whole section at important and their hat their backstory maybe and so he goes through and he talks about how that he was gonna tell her he loved her and so she keeps going down here and then I'll page eighteen week after repeating he's going to tell her in so many words that he loved her he says but he could not bring himself to say he loved her not in so many words but how lovely she said taking the flowers she understood she understood without is speaking his Clarissa and you see I find it interesting that Peter Walsh also thought that Clarissa spoke to him without words and then now Richard thinks that Clarissa is speaking to him without words that they're able to communicate without actually saying things and I find it interesting that both men feel that they have this intimate connection with her but I feel like they I feel like they may not but they're like opposing something upon her because we don't actually get her perspective as much as knowing now I feel like she mmm she's very insightful all of them have said she's very insightful with people but it just makes me think about that so if says he you have sections here but Richard but he could not tell her he loved her he held her hands happiness is this he thought he had not said I love you but he held her hand happiness is this is this he thought is she worried about these parties he would not let her give them did she wish she had married Peter he must go and you can see these thought processes as she's talking to him and he doesn't really want to hear about her party but he we do know that he seen her and she was been ill and so he's put her up in that lake closer to our essentially being sort of a delicate creature so he views Peter as childish he mentions that on page 121 Peter always in love always in love with the wrong woman what's your love and that was Clarissa and she says she knew the answer how it must be important things the world no woman possibly understood it and then we get down here we get to or to miss Killman coming in with her with Clara's daughter Elizabeth so we're in close viewpoint viewing miss Kalman and miss Coleman is an older woman who was very religious very buttoned up and she's German so after the war you know that's a bit of a big deal and she is teaching her daughter about the world now there is a sense here we're going to see before we actually enter into all of this is that she is teaching her daughter she can do whatever she wants and Elizabeth misses her saddle away is teaching Elizabeth the rules of high society that women are to be a certain way and to get married in different things and we also see later in the book at the dinner party or Richard sees his daughter as just a daughter he loves her but he still views her as a woman and he doesn't believe that she can do things which is ironic because miss Kalman has a lot of stuff going on but she is the one out of every one that's telling Elizabeth that she can do whatever she wants here we have miss Gilman so it says in but miss Coleman did not hate mrs. Dalloway turning her large gooseberry colored eyes upon Clarissa observing her small pink face her delicate body her hair freshness and fashion miss Gilman felt full simpleton moving down the page on 1:25 if she would have felt her it would have eased her but it was not the body it was the soul and it's mockery that she was too subdued make her feel make feel her mastery if only she could make her weep could ruin her humiliate her bring her to her knees crying you all right but this was but this was in God's will not miss killman's it was to be a religious victory she glared she glowered course that was really shocked this a Christian this woman this woman had taken her daughter from her and there's this tension between miss Coleman and Clarissa that Miss Killman you know who is going to have her daughter and we go down and we see a lot of Miss killings back story and I have a lot underlying here it would take a lot to read about it I wanted to point out that there's this section over here and as they think about each other he's I've seen a lot of Miss Coleman's backstories and there is a lot of tension there but she says she had lent her she mrs. Coleman is talking about Elizabeth she have lent her books law medicine politics all professions are open to women of your generation said Miss Gilman before herself her career was absolutely ruined and wasn't her fault good gracious that Elizabeth no and you can see that miss Kalman has had a really difficult life and is really struggling with her place and she feels very plain and dowdy and in the face of course--i this beautiful creature who's been put on this pedestal and she has turned to her faith to give her something to hold on to but she is ironically this the one who was telling Elizabeth she can do what she wants she doesn't have to be this flower this angel in my attic and I find that very interesting so you know Elizabeth Alaskan is Killman if she was going to go to the party and then we actually have Elizabeth walking driving you know traveling through London which I find very interesting that she's doing that alone at this time period so we see into Elizabeth head she thinks a lot about Miss Killman and she feels very emboldened by Miss Killman and so she says in short she would like to have a profession she would become a doctor a farmer possibly go into Parliament if she had found it necessary all because of the strand and she goes down the page she's thinking about this and so we go down the page and we see the feet of these people because of their activities hands putting stone to stone mines eternally occupied not with trivial chatterings comparing women to poplars which was rather exciting of course but very silly but with thoughts of ships business of law administration and with it all so stately she was in the temple gay there was the river pious there was the church made her quite determined whatever her mother might say to become either a farmer or a doctor but she was of course rather lazy and it was much better to say nothing about it it seemed so silly so even though she's thinking about all things all these things ultimately she decides not to and you can see like the her change of thought process is this comes to this peak here and then it goes down so that she's rather not going to do that and I find this very heartbreaking and we can see that miss Coleman genuinely wants something better for Elizabeth and she loves her but she has a lot of her own issues she's trying to deal with and then Clarissa basically makes fun of her because this woman who may not be society X accepted in society does have a pool on her daughter and it's almost as if mrs. Kellman represents the women's movement now Virginia Woolf was a big classist will just say and so she didn't support the women's movement really she just was not comfortable with that the idea that women of different classes getting the vote and she's a lot of other issues that Virginia had she's a bit of a snob let's just be honest so she does make fun of women of lumens movement of that kind of dally like get in the muck kind of woman throughout her work and I find that very interesting that even though Virginia was advocating for education for women she still was supporting the class system essentially she might have felt sorry for some people but she had her own issues so just be aware of moving forward like she would never talk to me I'm an American and I'm a Valora class that would not go well now we move into this section with Septimus and I'm going to say this I will hold up the book and put it back down again when the section ends but we are going to be discussing suicide and different triggering things around that so if that's something that you'd rather not discuss in depth then just wait for that signal and you can just scroll you know go through to the end or I do some announcement stuff but that is what we're gonna look at right now so we have we come back to Septimus and we see that he is looking for beauty in the world so he is always talking about Shakespeare and the beauty of Shakespeare fear no Morris is the heart and body fear no more he was not afraid at every moment nature signified by some laughing hint like that gold spot which went round the wall there there there she determined she determination to show by brandishing her plumes shaking her tresses fleeing her mantle this way and that beautifully always beautifully and standing close up to buoy through her hallowed hands Shakespeare's words her meaning so he finds beauty and I says some things are very beautiful and you can see a beauty as a calming aspect of him throughout this book he still talked about human cruelty and he says for dr. Holmes seem to stand for something horrible to him human nature about humans how they would tear each other to pieces on page 140 on page 141 we could see him and Rhett Xia going through this process of his mental breakdown and I feel like she captures it very well and if you read through these pages until the end you're gonna see how he's trying to recover and just his thought processes as someone who's suffering from PTSD in an extreme depression he and his wife are just in this horrible situation he seems to be doing well but at this moment this is something changes and he says but he remembered Bradshaw had said the people we are our most fond of are not good for us when we are ill Bradshaw said he must be taught to rest Bradshaw said they must be separated must must why must what power had Bradshaw over him what right had brought y'all to say must be to me he demanded it was because he talked of killing yourselves in Grazia mercifully she could now say anything to Septimus so he was in their power Holmes and Bradshaw were on him the brute with the red nostrils was snuffing into everything at place must it could say where were his papers the things he had written so she ends up he ends up deteriorating we see that he's having a difficult time and then we go back to Rhett Xia and she's putting these papers away so then she got up into the bedroom to pack their things but hearing voices downstairs and thinking that dr. Holmes had perhaps called ran down to prevent him coming up Septimus could hear her talking to Holmes on the staircase My dear lady if come as a friend home saying no I will not allow you to see my husband she said he could see her like a little hen with her wings spread barring his passage the home Holmes persevered My dear lady allow me home said putting her aside Holmes was powerfully built up man he was coming upstairs humbug bursts opened the door Holmes would say in a funk a Holmes would get him but no not homes not Bradshaw and we see that anybody go down and he's going to the railing of a house he did not want to die life was good the Sun hot only human beings what did they want so he throws himself over the rail and mr. Hall says the coward bursting the door open who could have foretold it a sudden impulse no one wasn't at least to blame he said to mrs. Filmore and why the devil he did it Holmes could not conceive even after he's killed himself he can't conceive why he would want to kill himself like he just calls him a coward that this was a cowardly thing that he did he had no idea that he was actually mentally ill that he needed help and he treats him as this anomaly and it's just a very sad portrayal of how often doctors will say that you know depression doesn't exist or it's all in your head or just stop just stop feeling sad and that's just not how it works and I feel like Virginia Woolf was just so insightful about a hundred years ago about doctors in the way that they often treat mentally ill patients and so I think that her insight is just so incredibly moving and I think especially at the time is which is one of the reasons why people really focus on Septimus in this book and the betrayal of what it's like to be mentally ill because there were so few people that would do it at the time it's just like considering that this is an own voices book Virginia Woolf herself did kill herself eventually and she suffered through depression her entire life it was a battle that she fought and you can see in her Diaries she wrote on being ill and it's just a very difficult situation so that is the end of this section that we're going to look at this ended on page 151 and it ends with let her sleeps and dr. Holmes it's that section you can see a break there and then we'll just reach the end of the book for our next installment of this and I will be reading some wrap-up secondary sources next time and we'll be looking at the dinner the party that we've been talking about this entire time and we'll finally see Sally Peter and Clarissa in the same room and they are my favorite characters of this book and seeing them all in the same room is just so insightful and it's one of my favorite parts of the book so but that's it for me if you have any questions comments definitely in the pan down below you can also message me on whatever your social media of choice but until next time I guess I'll talk to you later bye guyshello friends welcome back to my channel today is the third video in my series on the real long of mrs. Dalloway so we're using the hardcore Edition so as always I'm going to be calling out numbers Dillons behind me so you're probably gonna see some sort of Corgi doing something back there but you know just just gonna keep going okay so we left the story with looking at Septimus Warren Smith's experience with the different doctors and so we're leaving that scene or we're moving to the luncheon where Richard doll away the title character's husband is going to luncheon with Lady Bruton alright so we're at this dinner with her and we learned very quickly that she enjoys having men over to lunch which is very interesting and so we also get a little bit of a view of Clarissa Dalloway from the outside and that experience and so she's thinking about having Richard Dalloway over and on page 104 where we're starting she says she had never had this head it says she had never seen at the sense of cutting people up as Clarissa Dalloway did cutting up and sticking them together again not at any rate when one was 62 so but you know she's 62 years old she's an older lady and so that's where we go so there's also cute he was been mentioned in the sidelines a little bit Clarissa Richard Peter and Sally all knew him when he was younger everyone pretty makes fun of him because he's not very intelligent and he says awkward things and who knows what else so they're at lawton luncheon and Lainey Bruton says how's Clarissa she asked abruptly Clarissa always said Lady Burton did not like her indeed lady Bruton had the reputation of being more interested in politics than people of talking like a man of having had a finger in some notorious intrigue of the 80s which is now beginning to be mentioned in memoirs and so we get this sense from her that she likes to have men over and kind of glean from their intelligence as men and we're also gonna see some of the other reasons why she likes to have men over and I don't mean any sort of sexual sense it's more of a gender play since we've talked a little bit about this but most people talk about this novel as far as the cognitive goings-on of each of the characters and how different they are and how well Virginia Woolf has written these characters but one of the things that's often overlooked it's a critique of the Society of the time we know that Virginia Woolf was very angry that as a woman she did not get the education she wanted it's her opinions we're not taking us seriously as she wanted them to and in fact when she was critiqued in literature at the time her contemporaries they would call her mrs. wolf as opposed to just wolf it was like a reminder I slap in the face that she was indeed a woman and not equal to other people in writing so she had a lot to say about gender and I think that's what she does not just in this book but throughout her books this one in particular when she's looking at a woman who is the ideal society woman mrs. Dalloway she has other characters as foils to Clarissa and one of them is Lady Bruton we see down here on page 106 now thus when she said in her offhand way house corsa husbands had difficulty in persuading their wives and indeed however devoted were secretly doubtful themselves of her interest in women who often got in their husband's way prevented them from accepting posts abroad and had to be taken to the seaside in the middle of the session to recover from influenza nevertheless her inquiry housed Clarissa was known by women affably to be a signal from a well-wisher from the most silent from a normal silent companion whose utterances half a dozen perhaps in the course of a lifetime signified recognition of some feminine comradeship which went beneath masculine lunch parties and United lady Bruton and mrs. Dalloway who seldom met and appeared when they did to me indifferent and even hostile in a singular bombed intrigue so we see that Lady Bruton is this character who is seen as a masculine lunch party and that she's immediately ostracize herself from other women because of her desire to talk to men and talk about politics and for women to be interested in politics was a big deal which is why I find it interesting you also see that at the bottom of 106 they talk about Peter Walsh they all smiled Peter Walsh and mr. Dalloway was generally glad Bruges thought and Mister Whitbread thought only his chicken for Hugh he's struggled so we see that Richard knows that Peter was very much in love with Corsa Dalloway we see that the top of 107 Richard Dalloway remembered the same thing how passionately Peter had a been in love and rejected and gone to India so we see that and he talks about how Peter Walsh was in love with her and that he would tell her in so many words that he loved her this begins a really internal turmoil you could almost see with Richard Dalloway now Richard Dalloway was in Virginia Wolf's first book the voyage out and at the time Clarissa was sick and Richard Dalloway slight spoiler ends up kissing the protagonist I believe yeah the woman he kisses the protagonist and that has always bothered me and my my professor would be like why do you even care this has nothing to do with the rest of the book but I'm like has everything to do with mrs. Dalloway that's why and it's like why did he kiss that woman when he was with charissa obviously something is missing from that relationship if he went and kissed another woman besides just being you know a man feelings so we see here that I'm not gonna read you all the different sections well we see one on page 108 that she writes letters to the editor and that she asked the men to look over it for her to send in it says but she had to write the one letter to the time she used to say miss brush cost her more than the organized an expedition into South Africa which she had done in the war after a morning's battle beginning tearing up beginning again she used to feel the futility of her own womanhood as she felt in no other occasion and would turn gratefully to the thought of Hugh Whitbread who was asked no one could doubt it the art of writing letters to the times which is funny because on page 108 we see he was very slow lady Bruton thought and I just laughed so hard because she's using this very slow man to edit her letters to make them more I don't know masculine maybe so it says here lady Bruton offered suspended judgment upon men in deference to the mysterious to which they but no woman stood in the laws of the universe knew knew how to put things knew what was said so that if Richard by Sir Hugh wrote for her she was sure to sure of being somehow right so even though she is a more masculine woman and she has these luncheons and all these different things she still uses men as kind of like this filter to help her enter politics that she's still in some way believes that men are superior to her in some of these ways including politics and these more masculine circles and I just find that very sad because even though she has done so many things in her life and gone out and done different things and intrigue blah blah blah she still feels like she needs men to be that filter for her so we can see that throughout and then you know Richard asks her about the party then we go here and we look at lady Bruton again on page 112 it talks about her on page 112 it talks about her power you can see it's his power was service position income and she talks about men and how that she's able to get power from them and I just find her a very interesting older woman like I would love like I know there I think there's a movie of this somewhere I would love to see that and see how that looks out then you have Richard and we see Richard walking through the street and he's gonna pick up flowers so it says on page 115 but he wanted to come in holding something flowers yes flowers now flowers have an interesting symbol throughout the book because normally we typically see them with Stanley Seaton as these sit like you know mrs. Dalloway is going to buy flowers Sally Seaton you know she picks a flower around time when Sally Seaton kisses her we heat picks up red roses and you can see throughout the section he said here he was walking across London to say to Clarissa and so many words that he loved her and he repeated that it was a miracle as miracle that he married Clara a miracle and he was walked across the park to tell his wife that he loved her and burying the flower is like a weapon and you could see this lake turner turmoil of him coming in and he comes in it talks about how he had once been jealous of Peter Walsh and we learn more about his view of that whole section at important and their hat their backstory maybe and so he goes through and he talks about how that he was gonna tell her he loved her and so she keeps going down here and then I'll page eighteen week after repeating he's going to tell her in so many words that he loved her he says but he could not bring himself to say he loved her not in so many words but how lovely she said taking the flowers she understood she understood without is speaking his Clarissa and you see I find it interesting that Peter Walsh also thought that Clarissa spoke to him without words and then now Richard thinks that Clarissa is speaking to him without words that they're able to communicate without actually saying things and I find it interesting that both men feel that they have this intimate connection with her but I feel like they I feel like they may not but they're like opposing something upon her because we don't actually get her perspective as much as knowing now I feel like she mmm she's very insightful all of them have said she's very insightful with people but it just makes me think about that so if says he you have sections here but Richard but he could not tell her he loved her he held her hands happiness is this he thought he had not said I love you but he held her hand happiness is this is this he thought is she worried about these parties he would not let her give them did she wish she had married Peter he must go and you can see these thought processes as she's talking to him and he doesn't really want to hear about her party but he we do know that he seen her and she was been ill and so he's put her up in that lake closer to our essentially being sort of a delicate creature so he views Peter as childish he mentions that on page 121 Peter always in love always in love with the wrong woman what's your love and that was Clarissa and she says she knew the answer how it must be important things the world no woman possibly understood it and then we get down here we get to or to miss Killman coming in with her with Clara's daughter Elizabeth so we're in close viewpoint viewing miss Kalman and miss Coleman is an older woman who was very religious very buttoned up and she's German so after the war you know that's a bit of a big deal and she is teaching her daughter about the world now there is a sense here we're going to see before we actually enter into all of this is that she is teaching her daughter she can do whatever she wants and Elizabeth misses her saddle away is teaching Elizabeth the rules of high society that women are to be a certain way and to get married in different things and we also see later in the book at the dinner party or Richard sees his daughter as just a daughter he loves her but he still views her as a woman and he doesn't believe that she can do things which is ironic because miss Kalman has a lot of stuff going on but she is the one out of every one that's telling Elizabeth that she can do whatever she wants here we have miss Gilman so it says in but miss Coleman did not hate mrs. Dalloway turning her large gooseberry colored eyes upon Clarissa observing her small pink face her delicate body her hair freshness and fashion miss Gilman felt full simpleton moving down the page on 1:25 if she would have felt her it would have eased her but it was not the body it was the soul and it's mockery that she was too subdued make her feel make feel her mastery if only she could make her weep could ruin her humiliate her bring her to her knees crying you all right but this was but this was in God's will not miss killman's it was to be a religious victory she glared she glowered course that was really shocked this a Christian this woman this woman had taken her daughter from her and there's this tension between miss Coleman and Clarissa that Miss Killman you know who is going to have her daughter and we go down and we see a lot of Miss killings back story and I have a lot underlying here it would take a lot to read about it I wanted to point out that there's this section over here and as they think about each other he's I've seen a lot of Miss Coleman's backstories and there is a lot of tension there but she says she had lent her she mrs. Coleman is talking about Elizabeth she have lent her books law medicine politics all professions are open to women of your generation said Miss Gilman before herself her career was absolutely ruined and wasn't her fault good gracious that Elizabeth no and you can see that miss Kalman has had a really difficult life and is really struggling with her place and she feels very plain and dowdy and in the face of course--i this beautiful creature who's been put on this pedestal and she has turned to her faith to give her something to hold on to but she is ironically this the one who was telling Elizabeth she can do what she wants she doesn't have to be this flower this angel in my attic and I find that very interesting so you know Elizabeth Alaskan is Killman if she was going to go to the party and then we actually have Elizabeth walking driving you know traveling through London which I find very interesting that she's doing that alone at this time period so we see into Elizabeth head she thinks a lot about Miss Killman and she feels very emboldened by Miss Killman and so she says in short she would like to have a profession she would become a doctor a farmer possibly go into Parliament if she had found it necessary all because of the strand and she goes down the page she's thinking about this and so we go down the page and we see the feet of these people because of their activities hands putting stone to stone mines eternally occupied not with trivial chatterings comparing women to poplars which was rather exciting of course but very silly but with thoughts of ships business of law administration and with it all so stately she was in the temple gay there was the river pious there was the church made her quite determined whatever her mother might say to become either a farmer or a doctor but she was of course rather lazy and it was much better to say nothing about it it seemed so silly so even though she's thinking about all things all these things ultimately she decides not to and you can see like the her change of thought process is this comes to this peak here and then it goes down so that she's rather not going to do that and I find this very heartbreaking and we can see that miss Coleman genuinely wants something better for Elizabeth and she loves her but she has a lot of her own issues she's trying to deal with and then Clarissa basically makes fun of her because this woman who may not be society X accepted in society does have a pool on her daughter and it's almost as if mrs. Kellman represents the women's movement now Virginia Woolf was a big classist will just say and so she didn't support the women's movement really she just was not comfortable with that the idea that women of different classes getting the vote and she's a lot of other issues that Virginia had she's a bit of a snob let's just be honest so she does make fun of women of lumens movement of that kind of dally like get in the muck kind of woman throughout her work and I find that very interesting that even though Virginia was advocating for education for women she still was supporting the class system essentially she might have felt sorry for some people but she had her own issues so just be aware of moving forward like she would never talk to me I'm an American and I'm a Valora class that would not go well now we move into this section with Septimus and I'm going to say this I will hold up the book and put it back down again when the section ends but we are going to be discussing suicide and different triggering things around that so if that's something that you'd rather not discuss in depth then just wait for that signal and you can just scroll you know go through to the end or I do some announcement stuff but that is what we're gonna look at right now so we have we come back to Septimus and we see that he is looking for beauty in the world so he is always talking about Shakespeare and the beauty of Shakespeare fear no Morris is the heart and body fear no more he was not afraid at every moment nature signified by some laughing hint like that gold spot which went round the wall there there there she determined she determination to show by brandishing her plumes shaking her tresses fleeing her mantle this way and that beautifully always beautifully and standing close up to buoy through her hallowed hands Shakespeare's words her meaning so he finds beauty and I says some things are very beautiful and you can see a beauty as a calming aspect of him throughout this book he still talked about human cruelty and he says for dr. Holmes seem to stand for something horrible to him human nature about humans how they would tear each other to pieces on page 140 on page 141 we could see him and Rhett Xia going through this process of his mental breakdown and I feel like she captures it very well and if you read through these pages until the end you're gonna see how he's trying to recover and just his thought processes as someone who's suffering from PTSD in an extreme depression he and his wife are just in this horrible situation he seems to be doing well but at this moment this is something changes and he says but he remembered Bradshaw had said the people we are our most fond of are not good for us when we are ill Bradshaw said he must be taught to rest Bradshaw said they must be separated must must why must what power had Bradshaw over him what right had brought y'all to say must be to me he demanded it was because he talked of killing yourselves in Grazia mercifully she could now say anything to Septimus so he was in their power Holmes and Bradshaw were on him the brute with the red nostrils was snuffing into everything at place must it could say where were his papers the things he had written so she ends up he ends up deteriorating we see that he's having a difficult time and then we go back to Rhett Xia and she's putting these papers away so then she got up into the bedroom to pack their things but hearing voices downstairs and thinking that dr. Holmes had perhaps called ran down to prevent him coming up Septimus could hear her talking to Holmes on the staircase My dear lady if come as a friend home saying no I will not allow you to see my husband she said he could see her like a little hen with her wings spread barring his passage the home Holmes persevered My dear lady allow me home said putting her aside Holmes was powerfully built up man he was coming upstairs humbug bursts opened the door Holmes would say in a funk a Holmes would get him but no not homes not Bradshaw and we see that anybody go down and he's going to the railing of a house he did not want to die life was good the Sun hot only human beings what did they want so he throws himself over the rail and mr. Hall says the coward bursting the door open who could have foretold it a sudden impulse no one wasn't at least to blame he said to mrs. Filmore and why the devil he did it Holmes could not conceive even after he's killed himself he can't conceive why he would want to kill himself like he just calls him a coward that this was a cowardly thing that he did he had no idea that he was actually mentally ill that he needed help and he treats him as this anomaly and it's just a very sad portrayal of how often doctors will say that you know depression doesn't exist or it's all in your head or just stop just stop feeling sad and that's just not how it works and I feel like Virginia Woolf was just so insightful about a hundred years ago about doctors in the way that they often treat mentally ill patients and so I think that her insight is just so incredibly moving and I think especially at the time is which is one of the reasons why people really focus on Septimus in this book and the betrayal of what it's like to be mentally ill because there were so few people that would do it at the time it's just like considering that this is an own voices book Virginia Woolf herself did kill herself eventually and she suffered through depression her entire life it was a battle that she fought and you can see in her Diaries she wrote on being ill and it's just a very difficult situation so that is the end of this section that we're going to look at this ended on page 151 and it ends with let her sleeps and dr. Holmes it's that section you can see a break there and then we'll just reach the end of the book for our next installment of this and I will be reading some wrap-up secondary sources next time and we'll be looking at the dinner the party that we've been talking about this entire time and we'll finally see Sally Peter and Clarissa in the same room and they are my favorite characters of this book and seeing them all in the same room is just so insightful and it's one of my favorite parts of the book so but that's it for me if you have any questions comments definitely in the pan down below you can also message me on whatever your social media of choice but until next time I guess I'll talk to you later bye guys\n"