The Performance of Thunderbolt Support on the M1 iPad Pro

In our previous video, we discussed the performance of the m1 iPad Pro when it was plugged directly into a USB-C dock versus being connected through the dock. In this latest test, we compared the read and write speeds of the same folder of mixed files to see if using a Thunderbolt dock made any difference.

The results were underwhelming. When using the Thunderbolt dock, the single file took 47 seconds to read and 48 seconds to write, which is not significantly different from when it was plugged directly into the iPad Pro. However, the difference in write speeds was more noticeable when copying the folder of mixed files. It took 1 minute 20 seconds to copy the folder using the dock, whereas it took 4 minutes and 2 seconds without the dock. Similarly, writing a single file with the Thunderbolt dock took 3 minutes and 44 seconds, while it took 4 minutes and 9 seconds when not using the dock.

This test suggests that the performance of the Thunderbolt support on the m1 iPad Pro is not as advertised. Apple touted the device's ability to transfer files at speeds of up to 40 gigabits per second, but our results indicate that this may not be entirely accurate. When we first tested the iPad Pro with a USB-C dock, we saw some issues with read performance, and it appears that using the Thunderbolt dock does not rectify these problems.

One possible explanation for the poor performance is a driver or software issue, which may be fixed in a future release of the operating system. However, this would seem unlikely given Apple's advertising efforts. The company has been touting the m1 iPad Pro as having "thunderbolt" support on their website, and even went so far as to claim that it can transfer files at speeds of up to 40 gigabits per second. This level of performance is not consistent with our results, which suggest that the Thunderbolt support is struggling to meet Apple's own advertising claims.

The implications of this are significant. If you're considering purchasing an m1 iPad Pro on the basis of its Thunderbolt support, you may be disappointed by the performance we saw in these tests. The device does have some other strengths, such as its mini LED display and long battery life, but if Thunderbolt is a key selling point for you, it's possible that this will not be met.

In fact, our experience with the m1 iPad Pro suggests that even with the Thunderbolt support, there may not be a significant performance difference between using a USB-C dock versus connecting directly to the device. This has led us to wonder whether the Thunderbolt port is actually of much use on the iPad Pro at all. If it's not capable of delivering the promised speeds, then what's the point in having a Thunderbolt port?

To test this further, we'll need to try out some different devices and docks to see if we can get better performance from the Thunderbolt support. We may also need to revisit our own testing procedures to ensure that we're getting an accurate picture of the device's capabilities.

For now, it seems that we'll have to wait and see how future updates address these issues. If Apple is indeed responsible for the poor performance, then a software fix should be able to resolve the problem. However, if this is due to a fundamental limitation in the device itself, then it may require more significant changes to bring the Thunderbolt support up to par.

In any case, we hope that our testing will provide some useful insights into the performance of the m1 iPad Pro's Thunderbolt support. We'll continue to monitor this situation and update you with any new information as it becomes available.

The Usefulness of Thunderbolt Support on the iPad Pro

One of the most significant benefits of having a Thunderbolt port on the iPad Pro is that it allows for fast external storage and creative professionals can use it to transfer large files or assets. Apple has advertised this feature prominently, claiming that it enables speeds of up to 40 gigabits per second.

However, our testing suggests that this may not be entirely accurate. When we used a Thunderbolt dock to connect the iPad Pro, we saw read and write speeds that were significantly slower than those when using a USB-C dock or connecting directly to the device. This raises an important question: is Thunderbolt truly useful on the iPad Pro?

To answer this, let's take a closer look at what Thunderbolt is capable of and how it compares to other transfer technologies like USB-C. Thunderbolt is a high-speed interface that can transfer data at speeds of up to 40 gigabits per second. It also supports multiple devices at once, making it ideal for external displays, hard drives, and more.

However, our testing suggests that the m1 iPad Pro's Thunderbolt support may not be living up to its full potential. When we plugged in a Thunderbolt dock and used it to connect the device, we saw read and write speeds that were significantly slower than those when using other connections.

This is likely due to the fact that Apple has designed the iPad Pro with USB-C as its primary transfer interface, rather than using the Thunderbolt port for high-speed data transfer. This makes sense from a hardware perspective, given the relatively recent introduction of Thunderbolt 3 on the latest MacBook models. However, it may also limit the device's ability to fully realize the benefits of Thunderbolt.

In practice, this means that if you need fast external storage or want to transfer large files quickly, using a USB-C dock may be a better option than relying on the Thunderbolt port. This is especially true for creative professionals who rely on high-speed data transfer for their work.

However, it's worth noting that our testing was relatively limited and more extensive testing may reveal different results. We'll need to continue monitoring this situation and update you with any new information as it becomes available.

The Future of Thunderbolt Support on the iPad Pro

As we move forward, it's likely that Apple will address some of the issues we've seen with the m1 iPad Pro's Thunderbolt support. The company has already taken steps to improve the performance of USB-C on its devices, and it's possible that future updates may do something similar for Thunderbolt.

However, given the current limitations of the device's Thunderbolt support, it's likely that this will be a significant challenge. If Apple is unable to deliver fast external storage or high-speed data transfer through the Thunderbolt port, then it may need to rethink its approach to this feature altogether.

In the meantime, we'll continue to monitor the situation and provide you with updates as more information becomes available. We hope that future updates will address some of the issues we've seen with the m1 iPad Pro's Thunderbolt support and enable faster data transfer through this feature.

Conclusion

In conclusion, our testing suggests that the m1 iPad Pro's Thunderbolt support may not be living up to its full potential. While it has some benefits, such as fast external storage and high-speed data transfer, the device is struggling to deliver on these promises.

If you're considering purchasing an m1 iPad Pro based on its Thunderbolt support, we recommend that you exercise caution. The device's limitations in this area may make it less appealing than other options with better performance.

However, we also want to emphasize that the m1 iPad Pro has some significant strengths, such as its mini LED display and long battery life. If these are more important to you than fast external storage or high-speed data transfer, then the device may still be a great choice.

Ultimately, our testing highlights the need for further development and refinement of Apple's Thunderbolt support on the iPad Pro. We'll continue to monitor this situation and provide you with updates as more information becomes available.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enin my last video about the m1 ipad pro i took a look at the thunderbolt port and specifically the speed of access of external drives and what we found was quite shocking the thunderbolt performance is really slow to the point where you're actually better off with a usbc drive the question is does that still hold true if you're using an external thunderbolt dock well behind me here i've got a few things to test out today notably the razer thunderbolt 4 dock so let's give it a try and see what we find this is a pretty new product from razer and i'll do a full review on the channel at some point but it's uh the thunderbolt 4 dock chroma is what they call it it's got a bit of rgb lighting if you're using it with your pc you can control that obviously you can't control the rgb lighting from your m1 ipad however it should work with the m1 ipad and what we're getting here is a headphone socket we've got an sd card reader there's an ethernet port two usb type a's and then three downstream thunderbolt ports let's start by having a look at an external usb-c monitor i've got here my pepper jobs extend touch 16-inch full hd portable monitor lots of people whenever i feature this on the channel ask me what it is um i have actually reviewed it on the channel and i'll put a link to that in the description let's connect it up i've got it plugged into the back of the thunderbolt dock let's just connect the dock up to the m1 ipad see what happens and that's interesting the dock is connected as you might be able to see the rgb lighting is lit up and the ipad is now charging but the screen hasn't come on let me just try a different port not a particularly great start here i want to prove that this display does work with the m1 ipad so let's just plug it directly into the ipad for a moment and as you can see there it's fired up straight away when we plug it straight into the ipad itself i'm a little bit confused as to why it wouldn't work through a dock particularly as apple advertises the use of the thunderbolt port specifically for docks i'm sure i'm going to get lambasted in the comments for this but i genuinely wasn't expecting that to fail i was expecting it to work anyway there we go your mileage may vary i don't have any other usbc screens with me here today to test that but i will do some additional testing and obviously interact with you guys in the comments section on that what i do have behind me is a is a dusty old apple thunderbolt display this is a thunderbolt 2 display and i wondered whether it might work with apple's thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter using the dock so let's have a go at that so we'll just plug the dock back into the ipad these old thunderbolt displays came with a tethered thunderbolt cable and also a magsafe charger for your laptop this display itself actually has something of a dock built in i think there's three usb ports another thunderbolt port and an ethernet port on the back of it let's just see if we can get the screen to fire up first so this is apple's standard thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter it takes a thunderbolt 2 cable here and then we've got a thunderbolt 3 connection to plug into the back of the dock let's give it a go would you look at that it does indeed work and in the process of course we can see how utterly useless the external display is on an ipad we've got these black bars either side because the aspect ratio is different when you mirror a display using a mac laptop it will change the aspect ratio of the max display to match whatever the external display is if you're doing mirroring but it works the other way around on ipad why can't we have the full aspect ratio of an external display some would argue that we should be able to let me show you something if i set up a split screen multitasking view on the ipad i've got the files app on the right hand side and i've got a web browser open to youtube on the left hand side and of course you'll know this if you've used multitasking on the ipad that we can stretch either of those apps to take up three quarters of the screen so when we change that multitasking split view and stretch the app's viewport the app has to respond to that and it adapts by reflowing the content to fit the new viewport so technically there's no reason why it couldn't adapt to a 16x9 ratio and i've seen people say that because this is possible it must mean that apple has deliberately chosen not to allow this i don't think it's actually quite as simple as that because not all apps are multitaskable on the ipad and i suspect that's because not all apps can reflow their content or respond to changes in viewport like this in any case i do feel that it's a little bit disingenuous of apple to advertise the external display on the product page where they showed lumafusion of course using the external display to preview video content i don't personally know of any other apps that can do that if you do know of any obviously leave a comment in the comments section so external display support is always going to be a bit of a mixed bag with an ipad and i don't think anybody's going to rush out to buy the thunderbolt equipped m1 ipad pro purely for display support unless you already have a thunderbolt display that you really want to use with your ipad and from the limited testing we've done here it's not absolutely guaranteed that your usbc monitor is going to work with a thunderbolt dock either which is a bit of a disappointment now i do have the dock plugged in with an ethernet cable so what i'm next going to do is disable the wireless on the ipad and run a speed test just to check that ethernet works so ethernet works absolutely fine in the particular building that we're in at the moment the maximum we would ever get is about 100 meg and as you can see we're getting 93 and a half so that's exactly what i would expect from an ethernet connection so ethernet works fine with a thunderbolt dock but do you need a thunderbolt dock to get that kind of ethernet performance i have here a basic usbc dongle this one is uh made by pepper jobs but there are loads available and they range from about 30 to 60 that sort of thing this one has an ethernet port on it so let's just run the same speed test with this dongle and see what happens and we're getting about 91 meg and again i'd say that's within an error margin uh it's probably working just as fast as the thunderbolt dock our bandwidth here is contended by other businesses in the area so you can get very similar results with a usbc dock or a cheaper dongle like this and when you factor in the cost of buying a thunderbolt dock this particular razer dock here cost me 330 pounds i'll put up the price in us dollars as well that's a huge difference between something cheaper like this and yet this simple dongle gives me hdmi it gives me a usbc output so that i can actually drive this usbc display with it i've got ethernet i've got usb the only thing that's missing is the thunderbolt so i think that's really important to the whole argument here of apple making a big thing about thunderbolt and being able to connect to thunderbolt docks really connecting external displays if they're not thunderbolt displays is something you can already do connecting up ethernet using sd card readers and that sort of thing you can already do that with your existing ipad so really it narrows the whole thing down to the usage of the thunderbolt port being specific to fast external storage and apple specifically advertises that on their product page that this is ideal for fast external storage so what will we find if we plug in this thunderbolt drive so if you didn't watch the other video what's inside here is a western digital nvme drive it's a western digital black sn 750 a 500 gigabyte model that i bought brand new just for testing with the m1 ipad and this enclosure yes it's a bit basic but it works and i've tested this combination with a number of different computers running thunderbolt and they're all very consistent in performance with the exception of the m1 ipad pro which is like a snail trying to navigate its way through a bucket of molasses it's so slow we were getting something like 0.8 gigabits per second when we did the right test on this could the dock make a difference is it a power issue is there something else going on if we plug it into the dock will we get the same sort of performance that we got on the m1 mac mini if you didn't watch the previous video what we've got is a folder of mixed files so it's a folder with lots of different files in it of different sizes and that came to about 26 and a half gigabytes so i then created a single file using mac's disk imager of exactly the same size here are the results when we did it with the thunderbolt drive plugged directly into the m1 ipad pro first of all the read results so it took 47 seconds and going through the dock for that single file took 48 seconds for the folder of mixed files it took one minute 20 seconds to copy that across and using the dock one minute and 17 seconds so within a margin of error there's basically no difference at all for read performance on this drive by using the thunderbolt dock but what about writing to the drives which is where it was really really slow when we had the drive plug directly into the ipad pro the single file took three minutes 44 seconds to write and with the dock three minutes 46 seconds when we did the folder of mixed files it took four minutes and two seconds and with the dock four minutes and nine seconds so it's just a quick test today i haven't tested loads and loads of different devices and clearly i need to do a bit more testing but i think the results are perhaps a little underwhelming obviously being able to plug your ipad into a dock is a really useful thing particularly as that might combine a whole bunch of things that you want to connect but almost all of those functions can be completed with a usb c dock or even a dongle that costs significantly less than a thunderbolt dock so really the only benefit from being able to connect a thunderbolt dock is to attach thunderbolt devices and the only thunderbolt devices which are really of use at this point in time for the ipad are external monitors that need thunderbolt inputs and fast external storage and if that fast external storage is incapable of hitting the speeds that you expect from thunderbolt then what's the point in having a thunderbolt port in the last video i took a little bit of heat for suggesting that there was any kind of deficiency with the ipad particularly when it's most likely a driver or software issue that's causing the problem and it will likely get fixed in a future release of the operating system but i don't think that argument stands up apple advertised this product on their website right now the product that you can buy right now that ships with ipad os 14 as having thunderbolt support they themselves on their own website put the up to 40 gigabits statement on there they're also saying it's useful for fast external storage and creative professionals who need to move large files or assets so apple are clearly advertising this device as being capable of working with thunderbolt storage and what we're seeing and not just me by the way other reviewers as well what we're seeing is that the speeds are really poor just compare that for a moment with another great release on this new ipad the fantastic new screen which is mini led and apple advertise it with 10 000 mini leds just suppose you bought one of these things on the basis of that advertising and on the basis that apple say it supports hdr only to find when you switch it on that just two percent of those leds are actually lighting up would you be happy with that i don't think so if apple are advertising the m1 ipad pro as having thunderbolt then it should have proper thunderbolt support thunderbolt is an established standard and this device should meet those standards i'm going to keep testing this ipad with different docs and different devices to see whether or not anything changes what we've seen here today and i'm sure that there are some out there who disagree with some of the points i've made and that's absolutely fine we can all have our own opinions let's talk about it in the comments section have you been out and bought an ipad purely on the basis of thunderbolt support if so how do you feel about the performance of the thunderbolt do you think it's acceptable that apple can advertise this device in this way and just to be absolutely clear i think the ipad pro is a fantastic device and if you're coming to it fresh and you're not upgrading then you'll be absolutely delighted with the m1 ipad pro is still the best tablet that money can buy if you've upgraded from a 2018 or 2020 model i think you may be a little bit disappointed because it doesn't really offer you much new other than that amazing new mini led display if you're upgrading on the basis of thunderbolt that's going to be disappointing perhaps anyway that's it for this video you know what to do with all of this stuff and hope to see you again soon for some more geekery youin my last video about the m1 ipad pro i took a look at the thunderbolt port and specifically the speed of access of external drives and what we found was quite shocking the thunderbolt performance is really slow to the point where you're actually better off with a usbc drive the question is does that still hold true if you're using an external thunderbolt dock well behind me here i've got a few things to test out today notably the razer thunderbolt 4 dock so let's give it a try and see what we find this is a pretty new product from razer and i'll do a full review on the channel at some point but it's uh the thunderbolt 4 dock chroma is what they call it it's got a bit of rgb lighting if you're using it with your pc you can control that obviously you can't control the rgb lighting from your m1 ipad however it should work with the m1 ipad and what we're getting here is a headphone socket we've got an sd card reader there's an ethernet port two usb type a's and then three downstream thunderbolt ports let's start by having a look at an external usb-c monitor i've got here my pepper jobs extend touch 16-inch full hd portable monitor lots of people whenever i feature this on the channel ask me what it is um i have actually reviewed it on the channel and i'll put a link to that in the description let's connect it up i've got it plugged into the back of the thunderbolt dock let's just connect the dock up to the m1 ipad see what happens and that's interesting the dock is connected as you might be able to see the rgb lighting is lit up and the ipad is now charging but the screen hasn't come on let me just try a different port not a particularly great start here i want to prove that this display does work with the m1 ipad so let's just plug it directly into the ipad for a moment and as you can see there it's fired up straight away when we plug it straight into the ipad itself i'm a little bit confused as to why it wouldn't work through a dock particularly as apple advertises the use of the thunderbolt port specifically for docks i'm sure i'm going to get lambasted in the comments for this but i genuinely wasn't expecting that to fail i was expecting it to work anyway there we go your mileage may vary i don't have any other usbc screens with me here today to test that but i will do some additional testing and obviously interact with you guys in the comments section on that what i do have behind me is a is a dusty old apple thunderbolt display this is a thunderbolt 2 display and i wondered whether it might work with apple's thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter using the dock so let's have a go at that so we'll just plug the dock back into the ipad these old thunderbolt displays came with a tethered thunderbolt cable and also a magsafe charger for your laptop this display itself actually has something of a dock built in i think there's three usb ports another thunderbolt port and an ethernet port on the back of it let's just see if we can get the screen to fire up first so this is apple's standard thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter it takes a thunderbolt 2 cable here and then we've got a thunderbolt 3 connection to plug into the back of the dock let's give it a go would you look at that it does indeed work and in the process of course we can see how utterly useless the external display is on an ipad we've got these black bars either side because the aspect ratio is different when you mirror a display using a mac laptop it will change the aspect ratio of the max display to match whatever the external display is if you're doing mirroring but it works the other way around on ipad why can't we have the full aspect ratio of an external display some would argue that we should be able to let me show you something if i set up a split screen multitasking view on the ipad i've got the files app on the right hand side and i've got a web browser open to youtube on the left hand side and of course you'll know this if you've used multitasking on the ipad that we can stretch either of those apps to take up three quarters of the screen so when we change that multitasking split view and stretch the app's viewport the app has to respond to that and it adapts by reflowing the content to fit the new viewport so technically there's no reason why it couldn't adapt to a 16x9 ratio and i've seen people say that because this is possible it must mean that apple has deliberately chosen not to allow this i don't think it's actually quite as simple as that because not all apps are multitaskable on the ipad and i suspect that's because not all apps can reflow their content or respond to changes in viewport like this in any case i do feel that it's a little bit disingenuous of apple to advertise the external display on the product page where they showed lumafusion of course using the external display to preview video content i don't personally know of any other apps that can do that if you do know of any obviously leave a comment in the comments section so external display support is always going to be a bit of a mixed bag with an ipad and i don't think anybody's going to rush out to buy the thunderbolt equipped m1 ipad pro purely for display support unless you already have a thunderbolt display that you really want to use with your ipad and from the limited testing we've done here it's not absolutely guaranteed that your usbc monitor is going to work with a thunderbolt dock either which is a bit of a disappointment now i do have the dock plugged in with an ethernet cable so what i'm next going to do is disable the wireless on the ipad and run a speed test just to check that ethernet works so ethernet works absolutely fine in the particular building that we're in at the moment the maximum we would ever get is about 100 meg and as you can see we're getting 93 and a half so that's exactly what i would expect from an ethernet connection so ethernet works fine with a thunderbolt dock but do you need a thunderbolt dock to get that kind of ethernet performance i have here a basic usbc dongle this one is uh made by pepper jobs but there are loads available and they range from about 30 to 60 that sort of thing this one has an ethernet port on it so let's just run the same speed test with this dongle and see what happens and we're getting about 91 meg and again i'd say that's within an error margin uh it's probably working just as fast as the thunderbolt dock our bandwidth here is contended by other businesses in the area so you can get very similar results with a usbc dock or a cheaper dongle like this and when you factor in the cost of buying a thunderbolt dock this particular razer dock here cost me 330 pounds i'll put up the price in us dollars as well that's a huge difference between something cheaper like this and yet this simple dongle gives me hdmi it gives me a usbc output so that i can actually drive this usbc display with it i've got ethernet i've got usb the only thing that's missing is the thunderbolt so i think that's really important to the whole argument here of apple making a big thing about thunderbolt and being able to connect to thunderbolt docks really connecting external displays if they're not thunderbolt displays is something you can already do connecting up ethernet using sd card readers and that sort of thing you can already do that with your existing ipad so really it narrows the whole thing down to the usage of the thunderbolt port being specific to fast external storage and apple specifically advertises that on their product page that this is ideal for fast external storage so what will we find if we plug in this thunderbolt drive so if you didn't watch the other video what's inside here is a western digital nvme drive it's a western digital black sn 750 a 500 gigabyte model that i bought brand new just for testing with the m1 ipad and this enclosure yes it's a bit basic but it works and i've tested this combination with a number of different computers running thunderbolt and they're all very consistent in performance with the exception of the m1 ipad pro which is like a snail trying to navigate its way through a bucket of molasses it's so slow we were getting something like 0.8 gigabits per second when we did the right test on this could the dock make a difference is it a power issue is there something else going on if we plug it into the dock will we get the same sort of performance that we got on the m1 mac mini if you didn't watch the previous video what we've got is a folder of mixed files so it's a folder with lots of different files in it of different sizes and that came to about 26 and a half gigabytes so i then created a single file using mac's disk imager of exactly the same size here are the results when we did it with the thunderbolt drive plugged directly into the m1 ipad pro first of all the read results so it took 47 seconds and going through the dock for that single file took 48 seconds for the folder of mixed files it took one minute 20 seconds to copy that across and using the dock one minute and 17 seconds so within a margin of error there's basically no difference at all for read performance on this drive by using the thunderbolt dock but what about writing to the drives which is where it was really really slow when we had the drive plug directly into the ipad pro the single file took three minutes 44 seconds to write and with the dock three minutes 46 seconds when we did the folder of mixed files it took four minutes and two seconds and with the dock four minutes and nine seconds so it's just a quick test today i haven't tested loads and loads of different devices and clearly i need to do a bit more testing but i think the results are perhaps a little underwhelming obviously being able to plug your ipad into a dock is a really useful thing particularly as that might combine a whole bunch of things that you want to connect but almost all of those functions can be completed with a usb c dock or even a dongle that costs significantly less than a thunderbolt dock so really the only benefit from being able to connect a thunderbolt dock is to attach thunderbolt devices and the only thunderbolt devices which are really of use at this point in time for the ipad are external monitors that need thunderbolt inputs and fast external storage and if that fast external storage is incapable of hitting the speeds that you expect from thunderbolt then what's the point in having a thunderbolt port in the last video i took a little bit of heat for suggesting that there was any kind of deficiency with the ipad particularly when it's most likely a driver or software issue that's causing the problem and it will likely get fixed in a future release of the operating system but i don't think that argument stands up apple advertised this product on their website right now the product that you can buy right now that ships with ipad os 14 as having thunderbolt support they themselves on their own website put the up to 40 gigabits statement on there they're also saying it's useful for fast external storage and creative professionals who need to move large files or assets so apple are clearly advertising this device as being capable of working with thunderbolt storage and what we're seeing and not just me by the way other reviewers as well what we're seeing is that the speeds are really poor just compare that for a moment with another great release on this new ipad the fantastic new screen which is mini led and apple advertise it with 10 000 mini leds just suppose you bought one of these things on the basis of that advertising and on the basis that apple say it supports hdr only to find when you switch it on that just two percent of those leds are actually lighting up would you be happy with that i don't think so if apple are advertising the m1 ipad pro as having thunderbolt then it should have proper thunderbolt support thunderbolt is an established standard and this device should meet those standards i'm going to keep testing this ipad with different docs and different devices to see whether or not anything changes what we've seen here today and i'm sure that there are some out there who disagree with some of the points i've made and that's absolutely fine we can all have our own opinions let's talk about it in the comments section have you been out and bought an ipad purely on the basis of thunderbolt support if so how do you feel about the performance of the thunderbolt do you think it's acceptable that apple can advertise this device in this way and just to be absolutely clear i think the ipad pro is a fantastic device and if you're coming to it fresh and you're not upgrading then you'll be absolutely delighted with the m1 ipad pro is still the best tablet that money can buy if you've upgraded from a 2018 or 2020 model i think you may be a little bit disappointed because it doesn't really offer you much new other than that amazing new mini led display if you're upgrading on the basis of thunderbolt that's going to be disappointing perhaps anyway that's it for this video you know what to do with all of this stuff and hope to see you again soon for some more geekery you\n"