Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Discussion _ 2017 _ Kendra Winchester

**A Discussion of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone**

**The Book's Unique Aspects**

We kind of talked about them kind of throughout cover of it things, the cover art is cool. Nothing we open up you can see went some different stuff going on in the cover art so I really liked I really liked this book because at first you see like always going after hawaii and last year I looked at Hermione in particular because I loved her anyway so I loved listening which please come up so anyway so they have a sound, which means they have a section called Granger danger, and it's looking at feminism in the books. So with this one, you can definitely see like Professor McGonagall she's a great one, and then also Hermione, you can see like she starts out and they call her a know-it-all, that she you know does every kind of it; she is you know what she is, but that's okay, and that's why I like Hermione. She is because you can be a nerdy little bookworm, and kind of outspoken, and you know whatever, and still be useful in the world, still a functioning adult.

**Growing Favorite Interest**

I really like her and I like how she really grows; she's awesome big crush on her eyes for sure. So what was your favorite part, and what was your least favorite part? Oh what happened! I really like the whole Norbert thing that was really funny. Oh it's humorous. It's boy humor is a drag, I know it's so cool, and also it kind of also again talked about setting up Hagrid later on just loving loving big creatures play a role in this book. Okay, they escaped from Gringotts on a dragon; they have Buckbeak who is you know the official transportation of the Order of the Phoenix; they have festivals; they have dragons in the games; so they're all over the place, which actually kind of makes sense that they then went with the Newt Scamander route when they'd say yeah I'm sure to see the next one. I really like this book because it's amazing.

**Writing Feedback**

I really like to I want to see Dumbledore in Grindelwald and if they don't do the appropriate amount of Johnny Depp, well know like if they don't show like the that there's a lot of tension because it's his ex-boyfriend. I'm gonna be really mad because yeah, Johnny Depp and Jude Law, nobody ought to put them together; hey stranger things have happened in Hollywood. You see what I did it, ginger. Thanks, really you're like born with a joke is every man born is like a bunch of dad jokes he has to get out by a certain I have a Rolodex don't let me talk to you. My least favorite part would be the writing; her writing really sucks in this one just cuz how it's bad, I wouldn't with it. Oh so draw goals so it's not if you listen to on audio, it's a lot better but if you just read it straight, it but that's true. It does get a lot better like I'm not saying that she's stuck there forever; it's just first when she struggles the story is obviously amazing.

**Hogwarts and Personal Reflection**

My favorite part is just like going to Hogwarts for the first time because it's like you know what's your least favorite research? My least favorite, yeah! I guess I'll have to agree with you on the writing. It can get a little stilted; I think listening to it is a lot better, Jim gets ya he is amazing um but yeah just I mean overall it doesn't hurt it that much not only, yeah, I mean we I'm still reading it. He came out made million twenty years ago almost 1300 in the UK, it was 1997 so 20 years ago yeah so so that is it for our first one, this is Dylan, say hi yeah he's come in for the last well he listened to the books of the first time last year mark summer he is he's shuttle huge fit he well he has a Harry Potter collar he does and but he falls asleep during the audiobook so you know it's it's hit or miss I think when he's older, and he can read for himself will be better. Well thank you for watching; I really appreciate it. Hope you have enjoyed the discussion we will definitely be back with more of our discussion, and Dylan crawling all over the place but yeah thanks for watchin.

**Upcoming Discussion**

We will definitely be back at the end of May for our discussion of the Chamber of Secrets so if you haven't read that one, you definitely want to catch up. And read that one because we're going to talk about amazing things like the four Hogwarts houses and which one is the best, and like what did it exactly mean when Ginny was like taken over, and when does Harry start noticing Jenny?

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enokay come back to my channel today is the first video of our Harry Potter reread and I'm Samuel and I'm holding the Harry Potter book as your inverter yeah Anna White of Kendra's sure this book page you look youtube youtube social media outlet I have pulled Samuel in because I also pulled him into the Harry Potter reread a couple years ago you read the entire series for the first time and it was amazing it was it was well we'll cover that yes so I am really excited because I'm following him in on this so that we can both talk about it we we met when we were all the time anyway we do yeah we actually had a pre discussion but who doesn't so we actually met we work writing majors so we argued and argued and argued until we just decided to keep arguing forever and ever yeah so we are going to talk about several different things with this series of videos so as a little intro we are going to first talk about overall stuff about the series that we want to cover since the Sorcerer's Stone is pretty short and then we'll go over different categories and we'll try to use the same categories over time that's the general idea so I guess the first intro is the things that cover the entire series now we will have spoilers for the entire series senses it will be read and we want to be able to definitely be able to note foreshadowing and cool different things like that and seriously if you haven't read the series like what are you doing tonight just stop the video and go read the series and then come back in about 23 or 24 hours and then you can watch it and there will be no spoilers yeah and it's it's fantastic and we hope your little Hermitage was great you haven't read them because you where have you been yes where okay so the word or this theme is definitely love that's pretty obvious you see that in the very beginning when Harry's mom dies for him and just generally speaking throughout the entire series love is what conquers all and also that really when you compare your comparing harry and voldemort off the entire thing and that's what you really compare is that Harry loves others and other people love him so the other theme that we will talk about is choice and we see that a lot with pretty much everything that Harry does we see Dumbledore famous quote it is our choices that show what we truly are far more than our abilities and that's a number door and we and the other quote is is it matters not what someone is born but what they grow to be and so pretty much you can't control how where you were born or what circumstances but your choices make who you are and I feel like that's really the overarching theme of the whole series and you wanted to narrow it down to one thing because you know I mean even with Dumbledore he had not an identical childhood to Harry into to Baltimore but very similar and that they both dealt with you know absent parents but you know whether because of orphanage or because of prison um but you know then they both had to come to the crossroads where they both had the opportunity to have immense power and whether they chose that or whether they chose otherwise kind of making a series and I think we see that anywhere you can see that a lot in more specifics so that's the general theme the other thing definitely well point out is the audience each book has a slightly older audience as Harry grows and the writing style and not only does the writing still improve but like the style just ages with the reader and not all series do that but I really like how this one does that but as we go through and we look at things and things we have to understand I mean we're looking at these books as a text we're using the 7 and like the Canon and extra stuff as secondary resources per se kind of but I do think the author's intention for the audience is very important when we're studying children's literature yeah I've read as great not taking on any one particular I read five billion things about the series so uh five billion what do you do I get Harry Potter collars from my party on him colonel yes okay so we are going to start with the Sorcerer's Stone so the first category we have is our overall impressions of the book so overall first impression again you mentioned her writing it definitely gets better as you go throughout the book so the first time I read it was definitely a little distracted by some of the the writing but the source is so good that it just doesn't matter having read it now for the third time I am really excited to watch the Harry Potter the the Snape and the Dumbledore kind of relationship triangle play out it shows its triangle yeah every time whatever we're going out anyway it's just really interesting to me how they never really understand each other you know you look at Harry Ron Hermione which obviously the book focuses on and I feel like as they go throughout you really understand they all get each other what each other is thinking you know by the final book they all can really predict what each other are going to do and even Dumbledore can predicts you know with Ron knowing he would leave yeah can predict what they're going to do how they're going to think both Snape and Dumbledore and Harry they just never fully understand what each other once even right up until the very last chapter they're they're still trying to figure each other out and that's really when you think about it those are the three characters that really make the book yeah without I mean with if either one of them isn't there you don't have the story isn't the same you know if you don't have Hermione you know I'm sorry the story can go on it would not be nearly as good yeah go on the story not possible Harry would probably die nevertheless - he'll be back I don't think so I think it would die like in the first I don't know book because they would have drank the wrong potion and would have and a story all right so my overall impression is I've been keeping an eye particularly on Dumbledore which we're bidding at because I'm really fascinating with him but also someone said something on Twitter because this year on the Battle of Hogwarts this is when this reread starts JK Rowling apologized for killing Snape and someone said he just because he loved Lily didn't make him a good person it just and he didn't necessarily want to be with Lily he just loved her I think also if you want to compare Baltimore and Snape Snape is not a great person but he loves someone it's not the guy you invite to your barbecue right and I think Lily genuinely loved him as a friend so I think that was another difference that we could see through Snape and Voldemort look at that book seven but that's something I really wanted to look at and so this time when I read the book I just looked at how she was setting up the story because super short but you can see the basic dynamic vision oh yeah yeah and this is so much so much coming up there's so much that you don't you don't really see fully playing out to later on in this series that you see the seeds first being sown here in the first book and just you know we were talking about it a while back and just how much she had to have planned out like I and I got it most she just went back and read this book I was like oh I can do this now because I've set this up course this was actually like planned all the way through like I'm sure she knew how it ended but just like some of the details I'm just saying yeah she had everything there like from names to people who did stuff from like just so incredibly specific thing you could find little notes like different references to things in later books and next year I definitely want to get like paperback copies or something and just mark them up to pieces because that would be an amazing at least amazing study the next category is Harry Potter as an unreliable narrator and I listened to the podcast which please and I hadn't really thought about this until I listened to that podcast and they that the narrator is generally speaking third person limited however we do have moments of omniscience um we'll go for it yeah sure so sometimes we do pop into the heads of other people so for example in book 2 Harry's flying around on the Quidditch pitch and you see Ron and Hermione doing something which you normally would not see because Harry's not focused on them we leave his head to go see this well you have I mean you have the third-person omniscient you have Harry's point of view you have you'll even have from the point of view of other people at times so she really switches it up by where it's needed yeah but I do think I definitely think it works like I don't think there's any problems I mean when you start switching perspectives you can get a lot of problems on how a book is right now you don't you just don't get it with us my favorite books are ones that are written from a single perspective because it takes a lot more talent to write a book that way it takes a lot more intense focus and work because you have to maintain the focus and the readership for that long which is insane but I really like how this you can tell as a kid right he is Jesus 11 year old boy and so we see that Hermione like suddenly becomes less annoying because of this thing no she wasn't less annoying before he just changed his opinion about her and we don't see a lot of other adults all slytherins are bad and if you read the play you know not all children's are bad and even you talked about Harry when you talk about you know when Harry first meets not Dumbledore Hagrid what exactly did you say there wasn't there wasn't one from slither and that didn't go to the darker it wasn't a darks wizard that wasn't fun slow burn or something yeah but then even he is one of the most throughout the series is one of the strongest defenders of Snape yeah and Harry is simply based on the fact that Dumbledore trust them so Hagrid who has implicit trust of all things Dumbledore which is really fun to say now that I think about it Dumbledore defend them you know throughout the series too Harry but a rat hello it is also he's Peter Pettigrew he's home Gryffindor he goes bad so like it's not really a true statement well and that's what I'm saying those that I don't even think Hagrid thought it was a true statement it's an exaggeration yeah there's an exaggeration I think a lot of people point to that as saying what Kyle so there's a bad but even the first of the characters says it so the nice category of course is specific themes that we just talked about in this particular book so themes of love and themes of choice I think obviously the love is learning what his mom did for him for the first time in the entire car crush she she gave herself and also at the end with Prince the coral how he couldn't touch Harry because of love which was always kind of weird to me like I'm not sure if I like that as being like the thing like he couldn't even touch him and then he like melt and I get kind of like this Sandman finally protection like charm that she put on her and he could not be harmed by yeah it couldn't be harmed by but that is not important like you could be you couldn't she could point to but he could be harmed by magic I would think I like to be not harmed by a physical touch that just seemed a little weird to me but automatic I don't know but it works and it she's consistent with it so he is with her rule she's fairly fairly consistent with choice I think you can see that from the very beginning that hurt even though Harry has not experienced much love in his life maybe in the beginning he had his mom sacrifice but we also see Voldemort his mom didn't sacrifice she decided to die basically after she gave birth yet Harry chooses not to go with Draco Malfoy who actually offers him friendship in the very beginning but he chooses wrong which is really interesting because it's like from the very beginning Kari decides this is the road I am going to walk on and he makes that choice and also I think this is a big time to talk about sorting hat the themes of choice because we see that he didn't want to go silver in and so the sorting patient really knows very little about slither and other than that what he's been told and he instinctively trusts the people that have told him so they're in his bad which is kind of unusual because you would think that someone who is never really experienced love wouldn't trust anybody but he immediately trust Hagrid yeah that's interesting but I guess I mean if Huayra did though defend him against the ders I think that's yeah haggling under him against the Dursleys and he's brought him a squished birthday and he gave him that you know Hedwig and it was really nice to him it's probably one of the first nice people he ever met so I guess if you're a kid yeah other than the cat lady neighbor which is been one of the things things which is one of the things it's like did she just kind of decide to use mrs. fake as a dirty new scripted but it was just like thank you very good well she spent like Abdeen years writing the series before I actually published like swatting it out yeah a lot of cards one of the things that I want to talk about specifically in this video is that I've seen a lot of people very upset being asked what hug hotels are you in but they're like how can one hat just randomly be plopped on my head and decide my fate forever but that that's not how it works and you can see that our only pulse is still the best so Rowling was trying to rectify that later in the books you can see her repeating that choices involved in even the very last scene is Harry telling Albus Severus that you or your desires are taken into account yeah so Hermione picks for Fedor because she won't knows it's the best and as I talked about tests talked about later will her opinion so Ronnie fix it wrong was to be in it because he doesn't want to be a helpful plus because all of his brothers are in Gryffindor so he has to be in her front door she's funny that all of them are in Gryffindor because even Percy could have gone in Slytherin he could have yeah but so could have heard so I mean and it's funny because each of them Harry Hermione and Ron each represent a different house you have Harry Slytherin Ron and Hufflepuff and hermione is ravenclaw and it is a beautiful triangle they all chose yeah yeah all choice Gryffindor and I think that's definitely emphasized when using a secondary source here when Rowling put out the ill the morning open morning where the called American school with eken her notes of the different houses actually kind of like you stand up at this thing and the different I think it's statues or something like light up or somehow say if they want you and you choose out the ones who pick you you decide soar like the voice if you watch the words like I think we're gonna get a voice you show them your talent and then the judges you know say if they want you and then you choose to judge other ones who like to do that kind of thing anyway so I think she emphasizes that it's choice that matters and the idea here was back to the idea that you have to be one thing because you're in this house you know just go trans leather and again at the end you know they're all given a choice you know the idea that you know this house is what define is so just just the idea that having you know this house that defines you it's not what defines you it's kind of very broad and overarching what you what you value yeah it's more of a descriptor than a of you and it's fine finer of you yeah yeah so I I don't think that also that I think is also we all come with different stereotypes of where we're from or where we are we're going to school or what job were in we all come with these stereotypes and I think that we also we obviously know we're not those stereotypes are not necessarily defined by the shirt type where we come like Samuelson California he's not you know part of a cull or taking drugs and you know mark the day when he's gonna commit suicide with this group of cultists like continue to foreshadowing yeah again that goes back to like how well find out this is but just there's I mean there's that level of detail just all the way through and them like again it's been my third time reading I'm just picking up on that more and more well I was gonna say that was the second one were peas drops the vanishing cabinet from book six and he's awake and he's the one that breaks it and book two and I was even thinking of Scabbers just yeah I'm being there for forever there is a lot of foreshadowing but compared to the other books I think this is more set up because this is the first time we're hearing about this but I do think it also establishes Dumbledore as a normative character now I would like to note that some limiters care oh okay an oral history Ferrell is the voice of truth in a book that doesn't necessarily mean this person is perfect but it's kind of like the vessel of the author chooses to communicate truth in an oversimplified way of explaining this he is a normative character and a lot of his amazing quotes are usually at the end of the book when he's like talking with her aria about the horrible thing he has just experienced and so on this talked to him much in the middle of the book really area and Dumbledore have very little interaction in the series except for book 6 yeah except for book 6 but really up until then I could see him at the beginning and at the end of the I talking about talked about him all the way through the book but really he is letting Harry do his own thing and even at the end of book 1 where he says you know they must they say that you know Dumbledore gave you the cloak of invisibility and it must have been because he felt like if you could face Baltimore you had the right to do so again which is just incredible that he would feel that way about an 11 year old but again he knew about the protection spell so he knew yeah there wasn't really anything Baltimore could do in this state before he had a body before I grew covered his stress yeah I mean due to hair in something was obviously he freaked out when he found out where Harry went yeah but I mean that he was relatively an additional layer of protection and I think what's interesting is that we see when you're a kid you think you're the adults in your life are perfect that they do everything I think you can see that as Harry grows up he realizes that you know Dumbledore play-doh fault flaw is well actually our next topic is Dumbledore so I guess we do just well and again you know honestly one of the tangles of this is reminded me of is the Boxcar Children and I know right I'm just like but like I think about it like they they go off and they do their entire own thing by themselves you know live in a car again they go on yeah and their employers make sure my grandfather is just like there to provide money so they can do all this other cool stuff but it's just it's just kind of crazy like that's that's what this is started to remind me of is these kids go off they do their own thing but I think see the thing is though this is a fan theory I don't really have textual evidence for all of this per se but I do think that he you know Dumbledore keeps close tabs on Harry and I said that you know people say throughout the book I don't think there's anything in this school that Dumbledore doesn't know about well even like the mirror of err said like he's sitting there like how did he know yeah look I think he does but I also you know I think he's watching over Harry Harry as a limited formula which restrictive didn't know that Dumbledore was doing as fast as his guardian angel basically but as I was saying we see when I think it's older we see that Dumbledore was fatal flaw is his arrogance and we can see a lot of arrogance in his early story in book seven and how he is so intelligent and we see who the mirror of Erised that he makes us comment it was one of my more clever ideas if I do say myself say myself and that's especially fun we're just saying a lot or something like that yeah you could see like bits of his arrogance but Harry to the Peconic pick up on it per se because he's already in all of Dumbledore what's who wouldn't like I don't know but I think we see how Dumbledore is very human and he makes a lot of mistakes but I do think again fan theory that he's doing a lot of stuff in the background because he's trying to find these Horcruxes he knows that Harry is probably one of them and if he wants Harry to have his best chance then yes to find them but there's some Dumbledore's perspectives would be very interesting Cubao tit that way because you figure from the beginning from the time the Baltimore first was you know defeated like he is known okay he's know number one that there are Horcruxes out there he's at least very strongly suspected it he's also suspected Harry was one of them he's placed a protection curse on Harry so this whole time he knows Baltimore's coming back he know he's not just sitting around waiting yeah but what is he doing what I want to know well we see that he defeated Grindelwald at the end of world war ii who also happened to be his ex-boyfriend and when i rawlings interview she says that basically she thought that Dumbledore never learned how to love again I mean his sister died his brother hates him his mom Kendra ha died every time I hear that I'm like oh that's strange I was humble I'm having a rare name at the problem anyway so like you see you see him and then of course he had to order of the Phoenix so he is very much I am the most powerful wizards I can defeat the most evil wizard and I think he kind of gets it into his head but then Harry's parents die and I think that kind of starts him changing it and then we also see in book 5 he says something unexpected happened I wanted to tell you the truth about what well you will I use the works but I learned to love you and I think that's a big thing is that I think we underestimate that yeah because he really doesn't have any relationships on a personal level I mean the Ministry of Magic hates him of course Haggard I mean Hagrid is probably closest from Professor McGonagall McGonagall yeah but I think that like very professionals but Hagrid is just like the loyal friend like he would he does defend Dumbledore somewhat friends of Snape ish know they're not friends they're nice no I mean I got a double don't even know that he still loved Lily after all this time which is another thing he goes back into dumb blurs understanding of love which he didn't I just can't comprehend how Snape could love someone who's who's gone he doesn't it's almost like we are kind of sucked into Harry's point of view and we think he's like this wonderful majestic person who has always loved people and things like that because he loved Harry so much but I think that he might not what do you think in the first couple book : most of what we learn about Dumbledore is through like three scenes and then everything Haggard says about him and like other passers and stuff yeah Andy yeah he's he's not an impersonal individuals that were it is now and he's not like an unkind person he loves in students he it should hold a very kind of at a distance love yeah I love you over that and a lot of bad things happen to his students but I also think it was professors and I suspect kids all the time like curse each other with leg Locker curses and full-body binds and and then you have like the twins who great give these things to these kids and I think you have to also give magic what okay that's funny um why you're wheezing that would be Charlie Charlie never found it I couldn't be charged either one who works in drag yeah you wanna be cool I'll be Charlie um he's one of the long hair I know let's go well no he's our Merida flower so John B Fleur No and so our last thing is special topics every social topics with this one I guess we've kind of talked about them kind of throughout cover of it things the cover art is cool nothing we open up you can see went some different stuff going on in the cover art so I really liked I really liked this book because at first you see like always going after hawaii and last year I looked at Hermione in particular because I loved her anyway so I loved listening which please come up so anyway so they have a sound which means they have a section called Granger danger and it's looking at feminism in in the books and so with this one you can definitely see like Professor McGonagall she's a great one and then also Hermione you can see like she starts out and they call her a know-it-all and that she you know does every kind of it she is you know what she is but that's okay and that's why I like Hermione is because you can be a nerdy little bookworm and kind of outspoken and you know whatever and still be useful the world still a functioning adult me yes so I really like her and I like how she really grows and she's awesome big crush on her eyes for sure so what was your favorite part and what was your least favorite part Oh what happened I really like the whole Norbert thing that was really funny oh it's humorous it's boy humor is a drag I know it's so cool and also it kind of also again talked about set you up for Hagrid later on just loving loving big create and I can hear how many big creatures play a role in this book okay they escaped from Gringotts on a dragon they have buckwheat who is you know the official transportation of the order of the Phoenix they have festivals they have you know the the Norbert they have dragons in the games so they're all over the place which actually kind of makes sense that they then went with the Newt Scamander route when they'd say yeah I'm sure to see the next one I really like to I want to see Dumbledore in Grindelwald and if they don't do the appropriate amount of Johnny deafness well know like if they don't if they don't show like the that there's a lot of tension because it's his ex-boyfriend I'm gonna be really mad because yeah Johnny Depp and Jude Law nobody ought to put them together hey stranger things have happened in Hollywood you see what I did it ginger thanks really you're like born with a joke is every man born is like a bunch of dad jokes he has to get out by a certain I have a Rolodex don't let me to do my my least favorite part would be the writing her writing really sucks in this one just cuz how it's bad I wouldn't with it oh so draw goals so it's not if you listen to on audio it's a lot better but if you just read it straight it but that's true it does get a lot better like I'm not saying that she's stuck there forever it's just first when she struggles the story is obviously amazing so it keeps you reading also grant I use the reading level is lower so we'll give her that but yeah it's not it's not great I could see that my favorite part is just like going to Hogwarts for the first time because it's like you know what's your least favorite research my least favorite yeah I guess I'll have to agree with you on the writing it can get a little stilted I think listening to it is a lot better Jim gets ya he is amazing um but yeah just I mean overall it doesn't hurt it that much not only yeah I mean we I'm still reading it he came out made million twenty years ago almost 1300 in the UK it was 1997 so 20 years ago yeah so so that is it for our first one this is Dylan say hi yeah he's come in for the last well he listened to the books of the first time last year mark summer he is he's shuttle huge fit he well he has a Harry Potter collar he does and but he falls asleep during the audiobook so you know it's it's hit or miss I think when he's older and he can read for himself will be better well thank you for watching I really appreciate it hope you have enjoyed the discussion we will definitely be back with more of our discussion and Dylan crawling all over the place but yes thanks for watchin yeah we'll be back at the end of May for our discussion of the Chamber of Secrets so if you haven't read that one you definitely want to catch up and read that one because we're going to talk about amazing things like the four Hogwarts houses and which one is the best and like what did it exactly mean when Ginny was like taken over and when does Harry start noticing Jenny alright so we'll talk to you later byeokay come back to my channel today is the first video of our Harry Potter reread and I'm Samuel and I'm holding the Harry Potter book as your inverter yeah Anna White of Kendra's sure this book page you look youtube youtube social media outlet I have pulled Samuel in because I also pulled him into the Harry Potter reread a couple years ago you read the entire series for the first time and it was amazing it was it was well we'll cover that yes so I am really excited because I'm following him in on this so that we can both talk about it we we met when we were all the time anyway we do yeah we actually had a pre discussion but who doesn't so we actually met we work writing majors so we argued and argued and argued until we just decided to keep arguing forever and ever yeah so we are going to talk about several different things with this series of videos so as a little intro we are going to first talk about overall stuff about the series that we want to cover since the Sorcerer's Stone is pretty short and then we'll go over different categories and we'll try to use the same categories over time that's the general idea so I guess the first intro is the things that cover the entire series now we will have spoilers for the entire series senses it will be read and we want to be able to definitely be able to note foreshadowing and cool different things like that and seriously if you haven't read the series like what are you doing tonight just stop the video and go read the series and then come back in about 23 or 24 hours and then you can watch it and there will be no spoilers yeah and it's it's fantastic and we hope your little Hermitage was great you haven't read them because you where have you been yes where okay so the word or this theme is definitely love that's pretty obvious you see that in the very beginning when Harry's mom dies for him and just generally speaking throughout the entire series love is what conquers all and also that really when you compare your comparing harry and voldemort off the entire thing and that's what you really compare is that Harry loves others and other people love him so the other theme that we will talk about is choice and we see that a lot with pretty much everything that Harry does we see Dumbledore famous quote it is our choices that show what we truly are far more than our abilities and that's a number door and we and the other quote is is it matters not what someone is born but what they grow to be and so pretty much you can't control how where you were born or what circumstances but your choices make who you are and I feel like that's really the overarching theme of the whole series and you wanted to narrow it down to one thing because you know I mean even with Dumbledore he had not an identical childhood to Harry into to Baltimore but very similar and that they both dealt with you know absent parents but you know whether because of orphanage or because of prison um but you know then they both had to come to the crossroads where they both had the opportunity to have immense power and whether they chose that or whether they chose otherwise kind of making a series and I think we see that anywhere you can see that a lot in more specifics so that's the general theme the other thing definitely well point out is the audience each book has a slightly older audience as Harry grows and the writing style and not only does the writing still improve but like the style just ages with the reader and not all series do that but I really like how this one does that but as we go through and we look at things and things we have to understand I mean we're looking at these books as a text we're using the 7 and like the Canon and extra stuff as secondary resources per se kind of but I do think the author's intention for the audience is very important when we're studying children's literature yeah I've read as great not taking on any one particular I read five billion things about the series so uh five billion what do you do I get Harry Potter collars from my party on him colonel yes okay so we are going to start with the Sorcerer's Stone so the first category we have is our overall impressions of the book so overall first impression again you mentioned her writing it definitely gets better as you go throughout the book so the first time I read it was definitely a little distracted by some of the the writing but the source is so good that it just doesn't matter having read it now for the third time I am really excited to watch the Harry Potter the the Snape and the Dumbledore kind of relationship triangle play out it shows its triangle yeah every time whatever we're going out anyway it's just really interesting to me how they never really understand each other you know you look at Harry Ron Hermione which obviously the book focuses on and I feel like as they go throughout you really understand they all get each other what each other is thinking you know by the final book they all can really predict what each other are going to do and even Dumbledore can predicts you know with Ron knowing he would leave yeah can predict what they're going to do how they're going to think both Snape and Dumbledore and Harry they just never fully understand what each other once even right up until the very last chapter they're they're still trying to figure each other out and that's really when you think about it those are the three characters that really make the book yeah without I mean with if either one of them isn't there you don't have the story isn't the same you know if you don't have Hermione you know I'm sorry the story can go on it would not be nearly as good yeah go on the story not possible Harry would probably die nevertheless - he'll be back I don't think so I think it would die like in the first I don't know book because they would have drank the wrong potion and would have and a story all right so my overall impression is I've been keeping an eye particularly on Dumbledore which we're bidding at because I'm really fascinating with him but also someone said something on Twitter because this year on the Battle of Hogwarts this is when this reread starts JK Rowling apologized for killing Snape and someone said he just because he loved Lily didn't make him a good person it just and he didn't necessarily want to be with Lily he just loved her I think also if you want to compare Baltimore and Snape Snape is not a great person but he loves someone it's not the guy you invite to your barbecue right and I think Lily genuinely loved him as a friend so I think that was another difference that we could see through Snape and Voldemort look at that book seven but that's something I really wanted to look at and so this time when I read the book I just looked at how she was setting up the story because super short but you can see the basic dynamic vision oh yeah yeah and this is so much so much coming up there's so much that you don't you don't really see fully playing out to later on in this series that you see the seeds first being sown here in the first book and just you know we were talking about it a while back and just how much she had to have planned out like I and I got it most she just went back and read this book I was like oh I can do this now because I've set this up course this was actually like planned all the way through like I'm sure she knew how it ended but just like some of the details I'm just saying yeah she had everything there like from names to people who did stuff from like just so incredibly specific thing you could find little notes like different references to things in later books and next year I definitely want to get like paperback copies or something and just mark them up to pieces because that would be an amazing at least amazing study the next category is Harry Potter as an unreliable narrator and I listened to the podcast which please and I hadn't really thought about this until I listened to that podcast and they that the narrator is generally speaking third person limited however we do have moments of omniscience um we'll go for it yeah sure so sometimes we do pop into the heads of other people so for example in book 2 Harry's flying around on the Quidditch pitch and you see Ron and Hermione doing something which you normally would not see because Harry's not focused on them we leave his head to go see this well you have I mean you have the third-person omniscient you have Harry's point of view you have you'll even have from the point of view of other people at times so she really switches it up by where it's needed yeah but I do think I definitely think it works like I don't think there's any problems I mean when you start switching perspectives you can get a lot of problems on how a book is right now you don't you just don't get it with us my favorite books are ones that are written from a single perspective because it takes a lot more talent to write a book that way it takes a lot more intense focus and work because you have to maintain the focus and the readership for that long which is insane but I really like how this you can tell as a kid right he is Jesus 11 year old boy and so we see that Hermione like suddenly becomes less annoying because of this thing no she wasn't less annoying before he just changed his opinion about her and we don't see a lot of other adults all slytherins are bad and if you read the play you know not all children's are bad and even you talked about Harry when you talk about you know when Harry first meets not Dumbledore Hagrid what exactly did you say there wasn't there wasn't one from slither and that didn't go to the darker it wasn't a darks wizard that wasn't fun slow burn or something yeah but then even he is one of the most throughout the series is one of the strongest defenders of Snape yeah and Harry is simply based on the fact that Dumbledore trust them so Hagrid who has implicit trust of all things Dumbledore which is really fun to say now that I think about it Dumbledore defend them you know throughout the series too Harry but a rat hello it is also he's Peter Pettigrew he's home Gryffindor he goes bad so like it's not really a true statement well and that's what I'm saying those that I don't even think Hagrid thought it was a true statement it's an exaggeration yeah there's an exaggeration I think a lot of people point to that as saying what Kyle so there's a bad but even the first of the characters says it so the nice category of course is specific themes that we just talked about in this particular book so themes of love and themes of choice I think obviously the love is learning what his mom did for him for the first time in the entire car crush she she gave herself and also at the end with Prince the coral how he couldn't touch Harry because of love which was always kind of weird to me like I'm not sure if I like that as being like the thing like he couldn't even touch him and then he like melt and I get kind of like this Sandman finally protection like charm that she put on her and he could not be harmed by yeah it couldn't be harmed by but that is not important like you could be you couldn't she could point to but he could be harmed by magic I would think I like to be not harmed by a physical touch that just seemed a little weird to me but automatic I don't know but it works and it she's consistent with it so he is with her rule she's fairly fairly consistent with choice I think you can see that from the very beginning that hurt even though Harry has not experienced much love in his life maybe in the beginning he had his mom sacrifice but we also see Voldemort his mom didn't sacrifice she decided to die basically after she gave birth yet Harry chooses not to go with Draco Malfoy who actually offers him friendship in the very beginning but he chooses wrong which is really interesting because it's like from the very beginning Kari decides this is the road I am going to walk on and he makes that choice and also I think this is a big time to talk about sorting hat the themes of choice because we see that he didn't want to go silver in and so the sorting patient really knows very little about slither and other than that what he's been told and he instinctively trusts the people that have told him so they're in his bad which is kind of unusual because you would think that someone who is never really experienced love wouldn't trust anybody but he immediately trust Hagrid yeah that's interesting but I guess I mean if Huayra did though defend him against the ders I think that's yeah haggling under him against the Dursleys and he's brought him a squished birthday and he gave him that you know Hedwig and it was really nice to him it's probably one of the first nice people he ever met so I guess if you're a kid yeah other than the cat lady neighbor which is been one of the things things which is one of the things it's like did she just kind of decide to use mrs. fake as a dirty new scripted but it was just like thank you very good well she spent like Abdeen years writing the series before I actually published like swatting it out yeah a lot of cards one of the things that I want to talk about specifically in this video is that I've seen a lot of people very upset being asked what hug hotels are you in but they're like how can one hat just randomly be plopped on my head and decide my fate forever but that that's not how it works and you can see that our only pulse is still the best so Rowling was trying to rectify that later in the books you can see her repeating that choices involved in even the very last scene is Harry telling Albus Severus that you or your desires are taken into account yeah so Hermione picks for Fedor because she won't knows it's the best and as I talked about tests talked about later will her opinion so Ronnie fix it wrong was to be in it because he doesn't want to be a helpful plus because all of his brothers are in Gryffindor so he has to be in her front door she's funny that all of them are in Gryffindor because even Percy could have gone in Slytherin he could have yeah but so could have heard so I mean and it's funny because each of them Harry Hermione and Ron each represent a different house you have Harry Slytherin Ron and Hufflepuff and hermione is ravenclaw and it is a beautiful triangle they all chose yeah yeah all choice Gryffindor and I think that's definitely emphasized when using a secondary source here when Rowling put out the ill the morning open morning where the called American school with eken her notes of the different houses actually kind of like you stand up at this thing and the different I think it's statues or something like light up or somehow say if they want you and you choose out the ones who pick you you decide soar like the voice if you watch the words like I think we're gonna get a voice you show them your talent and then the judges you know say if they want you and then you choose to judge other ones who like to do that kind of thing anyway so I think she emphasizes that it's choice that matters and the idea here was back to the idea that you have to be one thing because you're in this house you know just go trans leather and again at the end you know they're all given a choice you know the idea that you know this house is what define is so just just the idea that having you know this house that defines you it's not what defines you it's kind of very broad and overarching what you what you value yeah it's more of a descriptor than a of you and it's fine finer of you yeah yeah so I I don't think that also that I think is also we all come with different stereotypes of where we're from or where we are we're going to school or what job were in we all come with these stereotypes and I think that we also we obviously know we're not those stereotypes are not necessarily defined by the shirt type where we come like Samuelson California he's not you know part of a cull or taking drugs and you know mark the day when he's gonna commit suicide with this group of cultists like continue to foreshadowing yeah again that goes back to like how well find out this is but just there's I mean there's that level of detail just all the way through and them like again it's been my third time reading I'm just picking up on that more and more well I was gonna say that was the second one were peas drops the vanishing cabinet from book six and he's awake and he's the one that breaks it and book two and I was even thinking of Scabbers just yeah I'm being there for forever there is a lot of foreshadowing but compared to the other books I think this is more set up because this is the first time we're hearing about this but I do think it also establishes Dumbledore as a normative character now I would like to note that some limiters care oh okay an oral history Ferrell is the voice of truth in a book that doesn't necessarily mean this person is perfect but it's kind of like the vessel of the author chooses to communicate truth in an oversimplified way of explaining this he is a normative character and a lot of his amazing quotes are usually at the end of the book when he's like talking with her aria about the horrible thing he has just experienced and so on this talked to him much in the middle of the book really area and Dumbledore have very little interaction in the series except for book 6 yeah except for book 6 but really up until then I could see him at the beginning and at the end of the I talking about talked about him all the way through the book but really he is letting Harry do his own thing and even at the end of book 1 where he says you know they must they say that you know Dumbledore gave you the cloak of invisibility and it must have been because he felt like if you could face Baltimore you had the right to do so again which is just incredible that he would feel that way about an 11 year old but again he knew about the protection spell so he knew yeah there wasn't really anything Baltimore could do in this state before he had a body before I grew covered his stress yeah I mean due to hair in something was obviously he freaked out when he found out where Harry went yeah but I mean that he was relatively an additional layer of protection and I think what's interesting is that we see when you're a kid you think you're the adults in your life are perfect that they do everything I think you can see that as Harry grows up he realizes that you know Dumbledore play-doh fault flaw is well actually our next topic is Dumbledore so I guess we do just well and again you know honestly one of the tangles of this is reminded me of is the Boxcar Children and I know right I'm just like but like I think about it like they they go off and they do their entire own thing by themselves you know live in a car again they go on yeah and their employers make sure my grandfather is just like there to provide money so they can do all this other cool stuff but it's just it's just kind of crazy like that's that's what this is started to remind me of is these kids go off they do their own thing but I think see the thing is though this is a fan theory I don't really have textual evidence for all of this per se but I do think that he you know Dumbledore keeps close tabs on Harry and I said that you know people say throughout the book I don't think there's anything in this school that Dumbledore doesn't know about well even like the mirror of err said like he's sitting there like how did he know yeah look I think he does but I also you know I think he's watching over Harry Harry as a limited formula which restrictive didn't know that Dumbledore was doing as fast as his guardian angel basically but as I was saying we see when I think it's older we see that Dumbledore was fatal flaw is his arrogance and we can see a lot of arrogance in his early story in book seven and how he is so intelligent and we see who the mirror of Erised that he makes us comment it was one of my more clever ideas if I do say myself say myself and that's especially fun we're just saying a lot or something like that yeah you could see like bits of his arrogance but Harry to the Peconic pick up on it per se because he's already in all of Dumbledore what's who wouldn't like I don't know but I think we see how Dumbledore is very human and he makes a lot of mistakes but I do think again fan theory that he's doing a lot of stuff in the background because he's trying to find these Horcruxes he knows that Harry is probably one of them and if he wants Harry to have his best chance then yes to find them but there's some Dumbledore's perspectives would be very interesting Cubao tit that way because you figure from the beginning from the time the Baltimore first was you know defeated like he is known okay he's know number one that there are Horcruxes out there he's at least very strongly suspected it he's also suspected Harry was one of them he's placed a protection curse on Harry so this whole time he knows Baltimore's coming back he know he's not just sitting around waiting yeah but what is he doing what I want to know well we see that he defeated Grindelwald at the end of world war ii who also happened to be his ex-boyfriend and when i rawlings interview she says that basically she thought that Dumbledore never learned how to love again I mean his sister died his brother hates him his mom Kendra ha died every time I hear that I'm like oh that's strange I was humble I'm having a rare name at the problem anyway so like you see you see him and then of course he had to order of the Phoenix so he is very much I am the most powerful wizards I can defeat the most evil wizard and I think he kind of gets it into his head but then Harry's parents die and I think that kind of starts him changing it and then we also see in book 5 he says something unexpected happened I wanted to tell you the truth about what well you will I use the works but I learned to love you and I think that's a big thing is that I think we underestimate that yeah because he really doesn't have any relationships on a personal level I mean the Ministry of Magic hates him of course Haggard I mean Hagrid is probably closest from Professor McGonagall McGonagall yeah but I think that like very professionals but Hagrid is just like the loyal friend like he would he does defend Dumbledore somewhat friends of Snape ish know they're not friends they're nice no I mean I got a double don't even know that he still loved Lily after all this time which is another thing he goes back into dumb blurs understanding of love which he didn't I just can't comprehend how Snape could love someone who's who's gone he doesn't it's almost like we are kind of sucked into Harry's point of view and we think he's like this wonderful majestic person who has always loved people and things like that because he loved Harry so much but I think that he might not what do you think in the first couple book : most of what we learn about Dumbledore is through like three scenes and then everything Haggard says about him and like other passers and stuff yeah Andy yeah he's he's not an impersonal individuals that were it is now and he's not like an unkind person he loves in students he it should hold a very kind of at a distance love yeah I love you over that and a lot of bad things happen to his students but I also think it was professors and I suspect kids all the time like curse each other with leg Locker curses and full-body binds and and then you have like the twins who great give these things to these kids and I think you have to also give magic what okay that's funny um why you're wheezing that would be Charlie Charlie never found it I couldn't be charged either one who works in drag yeah you wanna be cool I'll be Charlie um he's one of the long hair I know let's go well no he's our Merida flower so John B Fleur No and so our last thing is special topics every social topics with this one I guess we've kind of talked about them kind of throughout cover of it things the cover art is cool nothing we open up you can see went some different stuff going on in the cover art so I really liked I really liked this book because at first you see like always going after hawaii and last year I looked at Hermione in particular because I loved her anyway so I loved listening which please come up so anyway so they have a sound which means they have a section called Granger danger and it's looking at feminism in in the books and so with this one you can definitely see like Professor McGonagall she's a great one and then also Hermione you can see like she starts out and they call her a know-it-all and that she you know does every kind of it she is you know what she is but that's okay and that's why I like Hermione is because you can be a nerdy little bookworm and kind of outspoken and you know whatever and still be useful the world still a functioning adult me yes so I really like her and I like how she really grows and she's awesome big crush on her eyes for sure so what was your favorite part and what was your least favorite part Oh what happened I really like the whole Norbert thing that was really funny oh it's humorous it's boy humor is a drag I know it's so cool and also it kind of also again talked about set you up for Hagrid later on just loving loving big create and I can hear how many big creatures play a role in this book okay they escaped from Gringotts on a dragon they have buckwheat who is you know the official transportation of the order of the Phoenix they have festivals they have you know the the Norbert they have dragons in the games so they're all over the place which actually kind of makes sense that they then went with the Newt Scamander route when they'd say yeah I'm sure to see the next one I really like to I want to see Dumbledore in Grindelwald and if they don't do the appropriate amount of Johnny deafness well know like if they don't if they don't show like the that there's a lot of tension because it's his ex-boyfriend I'm gonna be really mad because yeah Johnny Depp and Jude Law nobody ought to put them together hey stranger things have happened in Hollywood you see what I did it ginger thanks really you're like born with a joke is every man born is like a bunch of dad jokes he has to get out by a certain I have a Rolodex don't let me to do my my least favorite part would be the writing her writing really sucks in this one just cuz how it's bad I wouldn't with it oh so draw goals so it's not if you listen to on audio it's a lot better but if you just read it straight it but that's true it does get a lot better like I'm not saying that she's stuck there forever it's just first when she struggles the story is obviously amazing so it keeps you reading also grant I use the reading level is lower so we'll give her that but yeah it's not it's not great I could see that my favorite part is just like going to Hogwarts for the first time because it's like you know what's your least favorite research my least favorite yeah I guess I'll have to agree with you on the writing it can get a little stilted I think listening to it is a lot better Jim gets ya he is amazing um but yeah just I mean overall it doesn't hurt it that much not only yeah I mean we I'm still reading it he came out made million twenty years ago almost 1300 in the UK it was 1997 so 20 years ago yeah so so that is it for our first one this is Dylan say hi yeah he's come in for the last well he listened to the books of the first time last year mark summer he is he's shuttle huge fit he well he has a Harry Potter collar he does and but he falls asleep during the audiobook so you know it's it's hit or miss I think when he's older and he can read for himself will be better well thank you for watching I really appreciate it hope you have enjoyed the discussion we will definitely be back with more of our discussion and Dylan crawling all over the place but yes thanks for watchin yeah we'll be back at the end of May for our discussion of the Chamber of Secrets so if you haven't read that one you definitely want to catch up and read that one because we're going to talk about amazing things like the four Hogwarts houses and which one is the best and like what did it exactly mean when Ginny was like taken over and when does Harry start noticing Jenny alright so we'll talk to you later bye\n"