The Officer's Reprimand: A Case of Retaliation?

As I sat in the officer's office, listening to his explanation for reprimanding me, I couldn't help but feel a sense of frustration. The officer claimed that my car had loud exhaust and that he was simply doing his job by writing a ticket. But as our conversation progressed, it became clear that there was more to the story than meets the eye.

The officer seemed to be taking a personal swipe at me, implying that I was not being taken seriously as a law enforcement official due to my Canadian background and lack of familiarity with American postal codes. He suggested that this was why he couldn't handle the situation effectively, and therefore, he shouldn't be on the force. But I knew that wasn't fair. As someone who has been doing this job for 20 plus years, I have a wealth of experience and expertise that allows me to navigate complex situations like this one.

The officer's attitude towards me was not just unprofessional, but also somewhat condescending. He seemed to be saying that I was somehow less capable than him because of my background. This is the kind of behavior that officers are trained to avoid, and it's clear that he failed to meet even his own standards in this situation.

One of the things that struck me most about our conversation was the complete lack of empathy on the officer's part. He seemed entirely focused on justifying his actions and avoiding any blame for himself, rather than taking a genuine interest in understanding my perspective or finding a solution to the problem at hand. This is not how law enforcement should be done. Officers are expected to remain calm and composed, even in difficult situations, and to approach each interaction with empathy and respect.

As I listened to the officer's explanation, it became clear that he was not just trying to explain why he wrote a ticket for my car, but also to deflect attention from his own behavior and make me feel like I was somehow at fault. This is the kind of behavior that can be damaging to individuals and communities alike. It's essential that we hold our officers accountable for their actions, and that they are held to high standards of professionalism and respect.

The officer's comments about my vehicle being loud were indeed true, but he chose to focus on this as a way of criticizing me personally rather than addressing the issue at hand. This is not how traffic enforcement should be done. Officers should be focused on ensuring public safety, not taking out frustrations on individuals they disagree with.

Throughout our conversation, I couldn't help but think about the fact that officers are trained to stay calm and composed in difficult situations. They should be able to approach each interaction with empathy and respect, rather than resorting to condescending or aggressive behavior. This is not just a matter of personal behavior; it's also a matter of public trust.

As we wrapped up our conversation, I couldn't help but feel frustrated that the officer had chosen to take this approach. He seemed determined to make me feel like I was at fault, rather than working towards finding a solution to the problem at hand. This is not how law enforcement should be done. Officers are expected to remain calm and composed, even in difficult situations, and to approach each interaction with empathy and respect.

The officer's attitude towards me was not just unprofessional, but also somewhat condescending. He seemed to be saying that I was somehow less capable than him because of my background. This is the kind of behavior that officers are trained to avoid, and it's clear that he failed to meet even his own standards in this situation.

In the end, our conversation was more about the officer's personal issues and feelings towards me rather than addressing the actual issue at hand – a loud exhaust on my car. I left the meeting feeling frustrated and disheartened by the lack of empathy and professionalism displayed by the officer.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enyou kept insisting that the the piece of paper you gave me had both I go I don't see it that's what I thought it was okay well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think okay yeah don't think hello see your license yeah sure it's not because of your loud exhaust yeah it's loud isn't it it's a little too loud there you go okay look for the registration insurance yeah it's right here loud exhaust well loud exhaust I understand this car is not quiet right so we'll see maybe there's like a municipality ordinance thing that he give me a ticket for this car is not from here so he G me a ticket for it being too loud because it's from California maybe you didn't know it wasn't from California until he pulled me over we'll find out he's pretty chill he's got to admit though I got to see if I can get him to admit that it sounds good does sound good let's see let's see if we can get him to admit it sounds good guess loud but it sounds good V12 Lamborghini come on who doesn't love a V12 Lamborghini sound we'll find out in a minute what's really interesting is he asked me for my li My license but then my insurance and my registration and then he walked away he's taking pictures right now of the exhaust well that's fine take all the pictures you want first drive yeah first drive our first drive coming from uh LA and then back down to the hotel and then we're just head to our shop so I'll ask him some questions about it considering that the car is from Canada I'm curious to know like what is the um legal requirements of a tourist coming into this country because they're not informed like it'll tell you at the border if you drive across the border which we do and they don't tell you when you fly down like listen if you're driving a car down here it has to be within these deciel limits or any of that kind of stuff so we'll see what he says I'm genuinely curious I got all my paperwork right here I'm just waiting for him to come back it looks like he's already writing the ticket without your paperwork that's fine if you get pulled over on a bike cop you're not getting a warning his job is he's doing I am curious to know like how is it if you're from another country where there we don't have the law you know for deal limits in Alberta so it's like or like having to deal with the emission stuff so it's like I wonder what is the law here where it's like if you're a tourist and you're driving your car down here what is or isn't allowed because like in Florida you can have all sorts of different Vehicles insured for the road so someone from Florida drives to California it's like you're not allowed to bring your car here if it's legal in Florida but not legal here like where would they tell you that they don't tell you at the state line we just drove actually from here to Arizona and back and there's nowhere no signs no checkpoints that say these are the laws these are what you you have to do with your your vehicle the law really states that if you have a car here in California and you're registering it you are to follow the laws here so you can't even get the car registered or anything here unless it passes smog and all that sort of stuff so here you can ask hey can I use the H be address pardon me it's not taking it's not taking the uh British Columbia what's not it's not taking this for some reason what do you use your hton be adders or no I don't have a Huntington Beach address okay I have my Canadian address okay what what's the issue yeah it it doesn't it doesn't not taking it this is all computer I I just do a paper one no but what's the issue with the car what's the issue with the car the loud exhaust yeah but it's not from here cuz iPad isn't taking the address yeah the BC address the Canadian address he goes can I use your Huntington Beach address so he knows who we are yeah cuz right now he has your ID with her candy license like there's nothing that says HT to beach on it no so this officer I think this officer is and it is remember the guy who yelled at me and told me not to think well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't okay yeah don't think is that him that's him no yeah that's him oh so we're in Costa Mesa right now then uh yeah still what I thought I recognized him bro so Serendip it is him he's just pulling us over because he knows who we are he's just being a you know he's just being that guy so this is the 1% police officer who wants to use their power in a way to just annoy people for any little thing this is the 1% officer that makes the other 99% who are actually out there dealing with real stuff look bad and to be fair and to be very clear when we were driving we were in traffic it's busy on this street so we weren't repping riing or ripping around it was very just driving normal so he saw the car and then found a reason the he could also hear it I mean the car the the car sounds amazing it's not it's not super quiet no but like it wasn't like you were doing a full gear pull you were driving I wasn't being obnoxious no not being just at all just cruising but definitely way louder than any of this stuff correct the the difference though is is that this car doesn't need to abide by the the laws here because not from here just like a a Florida car or a Utah car or a car from New York coming here if their state rules are different than California's rules a car doesn't need to follow the rules here you can still come here and drive around does he have your insurance papers or anything no so he's got my he's got my license plate and interesting he knows who we are the last pull over he told you he had too many numbers on your address or whatever remember that there's too many numbers on here way there too many numbers too many numbers I was driving the F12 back then too many numbers excuse me way too many numbers what is this thing it's got too many numbers the address according to the police officer there's too many numbers oh by the way here's a sh somebody else you way back no I did not I get to ask him if he wants any of this information or are there too many numbers he was really like had a hard time staying calm the last time he's doing much better now yeah he actually he's probably watched the video I would imagine or he's been talked to about the video cuz he was like like there's too many numbers and he he's he's not wanting to communicate with the driver so like he asked me for my license which I gave him then he asked for my insurance and registration which I got out which he's not yet asked me for it's pretty interesting though that he asked me uh and that was pretty funny he's like can I use your huny and be be address interesting cuz that's not in your license and I was like well I don't have a hunting and Beach address and I don't when it comes to this car this car is registered to our address in Alberta that's the address the car belongs to the car by the way it's not my personal car it's in a company the car belongs to a corporation in Alberta so what color is your ha sorry me what color is your hair it's brown color your eyes green how tall are you 6 foot and your weight my weight yeah well it's the new year so it's a new me I'm trying to get down I think I'm 215 and your date of birth uh January 30th 1979 all that information should be on my license it's not it's not oh it's the kilograms in oh kilos gotcha so let me see the registration yeah sure so what's the issue with the car being a bit louder it's from Canada so it's a tourist car it's not from here so what would the ticket be for which model is this it's a merci logo so what was interesting was you said Can Can you said can you use my Huntington Beach address I don't understand that is this vehicle registered to you it's registered to the uh Corporation in Alberta so it's an Alberta car it's got Alberta plates you can you saw that right it covered I don't know what well you know now it's got Alberta registration yeah pardon me this is part of the company yes so what's what's the issue though like an out of state an out ofate car driving here is just like a noise violation what's the what's the ticket for November what's the ticket for I'll show you when I get done with this oh okay thank you without ADM go to the sign here yeah so what's the ticket for once you sign I'll explain everything to you you won't explain it to me before I sign it that seems a little unfair don't you think a lot Muffler pardon me L Muffler what so I don't understand though is how is I want to know the law so how is it that the laws please sign here cuz you're kind of UHD you guys know you have condensation in um not in trouble dude it's just telling you have condensation in your oh car understand you startled me there I wasn't sure you were there the whole time I'm sorry I was just telling you have condensation in your ta appreciate it thank you so what's the ticket for what's it no I understand that that so is it a fine or do I I'm warning you on the speed sorry you're warning me on the what pleas sign yes I'll sign it but I need to I need you to explain to me what the recorded right now okay you're kind of delaying my D is going no I understand but you're asking me to sign something I don't understand didn't to scare you dude I was just trying to tell you I didn't know if you knew or not I appreciate it can you explain the ticket to me he's asking to sign but not say the tickets for he's asking questions but he's not explaining it I just got here so I have no idea why he pulled you over I literally just driving down the street I saw he's out here so I just appreciate that maybe go talk to him cuz now he's walked away I just want to know what I'm signing he won't explain it to me is a what it's a mercy logo Mercy logo nice dude what year 2003 I I just want to know what the ticket's for you're saying low exhaust but I want to know like okay so is it a fine I don't understand the court handles that no I understand the court handles that I need I need to understand if you're pulling me over why have I done anything wrong if I'm from another country like my car is legally allowed to be here when I come here I'm not told it can't be a certain loudness it can't be a certain thing so you're saying something's wrong with my car I did something wrong and I'm asking you okay can you turn the radio down a little I can hear I had a helmet I can here it's hard to have a conversation with you if you want to give me a tiet there's no traffic AV intention you so I understand you're saying loud exhaust but H how is it a car from Canada is breaking the law 444 for2 can I sign here I know but so the ticket what's the ticket for though do I have to fix it do I have to pay a fine2 14 140 what do you mean that's for the court it's up to the court to decide you know you explain to them that it's you're not telling me what the ticket's like actually going to do what do you mean that that's what the Court's going to decide well explain to them that the vehicle doesn't belong here or it's not no the the vehicle belongs here a Canadian cars not allowed to come to the United States are Canadian cars not allowed to come here really like you're not going to answer any of my questions so I'm reading right here code loud Muffler speed visual estimation so your what's the speed visual estimation speeding what PR of me well you just said that you're writing me a ticket for a loud exhaust but now you're saying there's a speed thing on here so you're trying to sneak something else on here and you're trying to get me to sign something where did we draw the line on this one I don't what you P for speeding and loud exhaust but you just said just loud exhaust I mean he's delaying my duties right now you have until the 25th of uh Mar to take care of this if you don't agree with the citation you can go to court I will respond the judge make a decision okay yeah I think what we'll do is we'll go talk to your superiors have a good day later wow all right what Detachment is he from so he is Costa Mesa police department find me that address please so yeah you did get speeding ticket all right so I'm bringing my ticket to the office that that officer is from because I want to explain that one uh he wasn't explaining to me as you guys could see what my ticket was for he said loud exhaust but then I could see on the ticket there was more and I kept asking him well what's at four and then I could see well what's this and he's like well estimated speed too he was trying to get me to sign the ticket without explaining to me what the whole ticket was really about so he's being very misleading on purpose um Torres the officer also has a history of like harassing people I once I recognized him we know a lot of people in the car Community down here that he basically does this where he like tries to like fudge and basically push his um Power onto people in the car community so I'm going to go and talk to someone and I might even go as far as filing a complaint but this is what you can do if you feel like you're being pushed around or bullied or you've getting a you've gotten a ticket for something you shouldn't have got like legitimately you shouldn't have got now listen loud exhaust for sure one I actually wasn't speeding we were in traffic as Dave said we're driving through we're doing exactly the speed limit in in the city so his visual visual estimation that's just him throwing something on there that he has zero evidence zero proof of which I have a problem with so I'm you know I've also had a runin with him before he was very unprofessional he's obviously not yelling or anything today but he's also still being more unprofessional and this is years later so he has a habit of this so the only way to really combat this is you can go in and professionally and and you know calmly file a complaint on the officer yeah hey how's it going I know you um I came in to file a complaint on a police op you have a name I yeah Torres do you also have a superior here I can talk to yeah a superior like a sergeant or someone I can talk to about traffic thank so much thank you very much how's it going I see your videos oh thanks man I appreciate you watching what are you driving right now Mercy Lago yeah how's your how's your New Year been happy New Year Happy New Year to all right give me one second I'll grab some for you okay thank you very much cheers yeah can to help you hey how's it going good I just had a a traffic situation with officer Torres okay Officer Torres and I have uh had history okay um he pulled me over to today explained that he pulled me over for uh loud Muffler okay first of all my car myself we're tourist I'm from Canada car is not from here so I guess the first part is I'd like a little more clarification on um you know if a car from Canada that doesn't have the same emission standards or noise standards uh the province of Alberta that the car is registered to doesn't have a decel issue or anything got it um and is essentially exempt from you know having to follow those rules when traveling here based on the treaty between Canada and the United States just like we can drive down here on our Canadian licenses okay so you know giving me a ticket for loud loud exhaust is that a city ordinance that's a Cal California ordinance California V any vehicle on the road from California subjected California rules of the road and so if it's got crazy loud exhaust it's sub to that section I can I see what you cited you before yeah so here's here's the reason why I I have a real problem with it when you first approached me he asked me for my um driver's license okay he also asked me for my uh registration and insurance of course but um when I had all of it in my hand he only took my license okay he went back started writing the ticket immediately without insurance or registration okay he came back and said my British Columbia address won't populate in his computer system okay could he use my Huntington Beach address I said I don't have a Huntington Beach address okay so there's a company that I have down here that's in Huntington Beach so he knows my car he essentially knew the car knew who I was before he even pulled me over cuz there's no information on my driver's license or on my car that would suggest that I have a hunting Beach address down here so right away he's he's basically telling me indirectly I Know Who You Are I know your car's down here at this location at some point very very good assumption right so he's essentially uh targeting me on some level and then on top of all that he wrote on the ticket when he was trying to get me to sign it uh that I was speeding a visual estimate which he wouldn't verbally tell me what the ticket was all for I could see there was a whole bunch of stuff on it he was holding it up higher so I couldn't really see like he wasn't holding it like this he was holding it like this kept trying to get me to sign it and I was like well I want you to explain everything that's on the ticket sure and he wouldn't explain what was on the ticket he kept saying it's for for loud for loud Muffler and I was just like well there's more on the ticket and he looks at the other officer on the other side and goes what do we do here he he's not going to write this ticket or he's not going to sign the ticket and I said well I'll just sign it then I'm going to go to the police station and you know essentially file a complaint on you because you won't talk to me I asked you five six seven times what the tickets for or you're not telling me you're trying to get me to sign a ticket for things that are on here that you're not verbally telling me so here's the ticket and his visual estimation of me speeding is complete BS because we were driving through an intersection just before he pulled me over and I was in heavy flow of traffic and we had just basically from a red light proceeded through the intersection so I probably wasn't even up to the actual speed limit now look I'm not my car is probably loud based on some people's standards sure right um my car is foreign it's not from here okay I think based on you know some of the values that your guys' police station say that they follow things like professionalism I don't believe Torres was very professional today he's definitely not been professional in the past he's actually yelled at me I've made a video about that on the internet I do make videos and one of the other ones on your guys' values was empathy he showed zero empathy to me right and he's obviously got some sort of problem with me because he targeted the car he wrote me a ticket for speeding which I wasn't speeding and he even very clearly demonstrated he knew who we were because he told me I had a Huntington Beach address which nothing I gave him would let him know that all right so one I would like to a file a complaint and B you know I can deal with this in the courts I'm sure that's what you're going to tell me what so just help me understand things what are you exactly complaining about his unprofessionalism lack of communication around giving me a ticket you wouldn't explain to me what was going on and on some level I mean I'm sure it's like you know he's targeting me so I don't know if it falls into the harassment category cuz I haven't seen him in years but he knows who I am like he personally targeted my vehicle today thank you what's your name so prior to stopping you I I guess what I'm trying to understand is what you're alleging is that prior to stopping you he knew that it was you behind the wheel of the car y again I was in there I didn't see where he was I Pi something up from him not being there um I don't have any body camera footage to review yet so I can't of course going based upon what you've told me I haven't talked with him so I understand and thank you for clarifying the uh the California loud exhaust yeah we we've had this before um uh I was in court recently on a Case uh a car was registered in Vegas very loud didn't have um admissions stuff that's required in California and um the judge had upheld that yeah based upon the California vehicle code it's supposed to be in compliance despite the fact it's registered elsewhere so um I can't speak specifically to a US Canadian treaty and how the court May view that maybe they'll take that uh differently mhm yeah there's supposed to be some leniency and exemptions that if you're a tourist and you want to drive your vehicle down and it's you know not unsafe right unsafe would be different I understand that um you know you can't come here and and say well you know what in timbuk 2 we don't have to drive with seat belts and you're like well here you do right that's different um we're talking about a noise violation that is negligible negligible based on opinion of decel readings or whatever which he didn't take any of yeah again I I didn't hear car understand I can tell you from where I sit I get calls uh not probably not every day but certainly multiple times a week where um the residents in the community are up in arms over loud Vehicles street racing is a problem that we deal with here pretty regularly so well if there's any officers do try to address because Community wants it addressed so is yeah no I understand um if you want to file a compl provide you a form you're able to fill in the information yeah I fill them up before thank you is there a clipboard by chance yeah if you want to steal one of these clipboards you grab a seat fill it out and then uh when I'll try not to steal it that's probably illegal what's that that's just joking with you I said I'll probably try not to steal it that would be illegal but I'll come back up and we can I'll go over with you to make sure we got it all and understand what we're after okay thank you very much thanks sir very professional now I got this form to fill out this is what you got Civilian Complaint process it'll walk you through if you've never done this before like kind of what you have to do the steps what'll be followed up on and uh I'll just have to fill this up it's usually this front page and then you have to write like in full description somewhere what happened the events there it is yeah you go ham on that thing all right we'll do that we'll be right back all right so I've written it out which I hate writing but you basically write out on however many pieces of paper you want the incident what happened blah blah blah what you felt was unprofessional or whatever your complaint is the harassment and uh submit it and then just wait for a reply so this is what I'm going to do and uh we'll see where it goes from here I'll talk to that same Superior officer and just to be clear the complaint I'm filing is I'm filing a complaint for lack of communication he was being purposely vague so unprofessional un some level targeting me borderline obviously harassing me because I've had a run in with him in the past because he immediately implicated he knew who we were because he was like do you want me to write down your Huntington Beach address and there's nothing attached to my car or my driver's license or anything that we were doing in that moment to suggest otherwise like so he knew that he knew who we were so can he wrote me a bogus speeding ticket all right like I admitted hey the car is loud if that if it's loud and I have to take a ticket for being loud I'll take the loud ticket I'm not taking the BS ticket that he tried to write me for speeding I know this St here call the supervisor okay oh okay thank you yeah um so my best recommendation would be to contact the court because like when hearing is that like to like conflicting that's making confusing for you are you Mr yes sir you were in the car I was so um at the end of that thank you very much at the end of my what I wrote there I made reference to uh being pulled over by Officer Torres previously previous incident yeah and him being unprofessional un unempathetic as you guys state are in your values very combative and I have that on video in fact it's right here and this is his advice to someone when he's pulling someone over in the public what a sh well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think don't think why you so aggressive how am I aggressive listen I'm like you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think okay yeah don't think why are you so aggressive how am I aggressive this video seen it at some point in the past so he clearly today saw the car targeted me now listen look my car is it loud in retrospect sure I have no problem with the loud exhaust ticket okay all right happy to take that but it's the this time cuz he knows we're filming the vagueness the not even willing to talk to me and then just clearly right off the bat obviously identifying that he knew of a Huntington Beach address that just implied to me he he just he saw me targeted me and then threw a a speeding ticket on there but was trying to cover it up with getting you to just sign it and take the ticket um which you'll see on the body cam footage when you get it from him but not explaining like anything further he's being very purposely you know vague to the point where now it's like it's too far the other direction and he's trying to get me to take a ticket that has speeding on there and he's not even identifying it speeding until I said well hold on there's something else on here and he goes well yeah yeah speeding a visual estimation which look I know you guys get trained in that stuff but I think for the most part A lot of people don't really believe that a visual estimation is a very accurate reading so yeah I just the form of harassment the unprofessionalism you know that's what I have a problem with and and the speeding ticket I don't have a problem with the exhaust ticket I know my car is loud if I have to get an exhaust ticket while I'm here with that car while it's in town for a bit and there's some sort of fine that I need to pay I understand that I understand that it's an out ofate car it's not going to be reprimanded in the sense of like the exhaust has to be taken off you know the idea is like hey look your car is loud you're going to pay kind of like a penalty for it being here while it's here right but at the same time you know that's also within the officer's judgment so like he didn't take any decel reading or anything the the law doesn't require a decel read sometimes they do um I understand sometimes they don't my point is this this all felt targeted in like retaliation for probably what he didn't like which is being held accountable for his previous unprofessional outlash telling telling people not to think I don't know as an officer and as a human being do you think telling people to not think is good advice sometimes it might be yeah I I I seen that sound clip I don't know the entirety of the contact um it's kind of like um a news clip there's often times you know an edited little snippet or sound bite so people well that that was in reference to me just giving him insurance and giving him my my information things can look differently without all the context having done the the job for 20 plus years um there's multiple sides every story the officer side your side um well the context of of not thinking was just simply me giving him the information frustrated there or annoyed with again I I don't know what led up to that I wasn't there I haven't seen yeah you can go watch the video it's all there the only parts that are cut out are the Dead Space nothing between him and IR is cut out also he got very frustrated in the fact that there were too many numbers for him to deal with it's like well I don't know like I'm from Canada we don't have zip codes we have postal codes so we have letters mixed in with numbers I don't know if the officer can't handle that but if he can't handle that he shouldn't be walking around with a badge and a gun that's my opinion yeah so again we'll take a look at all the information we'll review the the footage you obviously have your footage today he's got footage and it'll get sent up to our Professional Standards unit they're the ones that take a look all these and see if it violates policy um I know you made reference to um empath traffic officers their job is to write tickets not you know so saying you're looking for empathy from there that's the traffic officer's job that's what our chief expects them to do is to address traffic violation so um well was the EMP explaining the other stuff and unprofessionalism certainly we have a standard professionalism we expect our officers to act professionally with the public and the people they're dealing with out there so if that's an issue then that'll that'll certainly be addressed the empathy part comes from you guys have it written in your values for police it doesn't say that traffic officers are exempt from that doesn't mean we're not going to hold people the lawful legal standards of of course not but you shouldn't write you also shouldn't write tickets for something someone didn't do agree that's that's a waste of the Court's time that's a waste of everybody's time for lawful legitimate violation correct it's the exact thing that sent me in here today right now now now your time is here right and our time which we don't have better things to do than this that do a lot better for me than standing here and having this conversation but that's where the empathy comes into where he he went the complete opposite way there was a complete lack of any of that kind of emotion brought into the professional handling of the traffic violation which was the loud exhaust and then throwing in this other stuff as retaliation and all this other stuff or whatever like he clearly you know has had an issue in the past with me where he's gotten all can't control his emotions now look you guys are police officers like you guys go to special training to handle this exact situation all day every day you should be able to walk up to a car and have a calm conversation with someone who's also having a calm conversation with you if someone's being combative or disrespectful or whatever then I understand that's also why you guys are trained to stay stay composed stay in control but he's literally demonstrated in the past a lack of control right so I'm just saying like it just seems like he's doing that again just in not a ver as verbal of a way that's all that's why I'm here had he not written a speeding ticket which my business partner and I both know is I wouldn't even be here all right my car is loud I get it I'll pay that fine anything else no that's it all thank you for taking it you were very good thank you thank you and that's that a go man update you guys lateryou kept insisting that the the piece of paper you gave me had both I go I don't see it that's what I thought it was okay well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think okay yeah don't think hello see your license yeah sure it's not because of your loud exhaust yeah it's loud isn't it it's a little too loud there you go okay look for the registration insurance yeah it's right here loud exhaust well loud exhaust I understand this car is not quiet right so we'll see maybe there's like a municipality ordinance thing that he give me a ticket for this car is not from here so he G me a ticket for it being too loud because it's from California maybe you didn't know it wasn't from California until he pulled me over we'll find out he's pretty chill he's got to admit though I got to see if I can get him to admit that it sounds good does sound good let's see let's see if we can get him to admit it sounds good guess loud but it sounds good V12 Lamborghini come on who doesn't love a V12 Lamborghini sound we'll find out in a minute what's really interesting is he asked me for my li My license but then my insurance and my registration and then he walked away he's taking pictures right now of the exhaust well that's fine take all the pictures you want first drive yeah first drive our first drive coming from uh LA and then back down to the hotel and then we're just head to our shop so I'll ask him some questions about it considering that the car is from Canada I'm curious to know like what is the um legal requirements of a tourist coming into this country because they're not informed like it'll tell you at the border if you drive across the border which we do and they don't tell you when you fly down like listen if you're driving a car down here it has to be within these deciel limits or any of that kind of stuff so we'll see what he says I'm genuinely curious I got all my paperwork right here I'm just waiting for him to come back it looks like he's already writing the ticket without your paperwork that's fine if you get pulled over on a bike cop you're not getting a warning his job is he's doing I am curious to know like how is it if you're from another country where there we don't have the law you know for deal limits in Alberta so it's like or like having to deal with the emission stuff so it's like I wonder what is the law here where it's like if you're a tourist and you're driving your car down here what is or isn't allowed because like in Florida you can have all sorts of different Vehicles insured for the road so someone from Florida drives to California it's like you're not allowed to bring your car here if it's legal in Florida but not legal here like where would they tell you that they don't tell you at the state line we just drove actually from here to Arizona and back and there's nowhere no signs no checkpoints that say these are the laws these are what you you have to do with your your vehicle the law really states that if you have a car here in California and you're registering it you are to follow the laws here so you can't even get the car registered or anything here unless it passes smog and all that sort of stuff so here you can ask hey can I use the H be address pardon me it's not taking it's not taking the uh British Columbia what's not it's not taking this for some reason what do you use your hton be adders or no I don't have a Huntington Beach address okay I have my Canadian address okay what what's the issue yeah it it doesn't it doesn't not taking it this is all computer I I just do a paper one no but what's the issue with the car what's the issue with the car the loud exhaust yeah but it's not from here cuz iPad isn't taking the address yeah the BC address the Canadian address he goes can I use your Huntington Beach address so he knows who we are yeah cuz right now he has your ID with her candy license like there's nothing that says HT to beach on it no so this officer I think this officer is and it is remember the guy who yelled at me and told me not to think well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't okay yeah don't think is that him that's him no yeah that's him oh so we're in Costa Mesa right now then uh yeah still what I thought I recognized him bro so Serendip it is him he's just pulling us over because he knows who we are he's just being a you know he's just being that guy so this is the 1% police officer who wants to use their power in a way to just annoy people for any little thing this is the 1% officer that makes the other 99% who are actually out there dealing with real stuff look bad and to be fair and to be very clear when we were driving we were in traffic it's busy on this street so we weren't repping riing or ripping around it was very just driving normal so he saw the car and then found a reason the he could also hear it I mean the car the the car sounds amazing it's not it's not super quiet no but like it wasn't like you were doing a full gear pull you were driving I wasn't being obnoxious no not being just at all just cruising but definitely way louder than any of this stuff correct the the difference though is is that this car doesn't need to abide by the the laws here because not from here just like a a Florida car or a Utah car or a car from New York coming here if their state rules are different than California's rules a car doesn't need to follow the rules here you can still come here and drive around does he have your insurance papers or anything no so he's got my he's got my license plate and interesting he knows who we are the last pull over he told you he had too many numbers on your address or whatever remember that there's too many numbers on here way there too many numbers too many numbers I was driving the F12 back then too many numbers excuse me way too many numbers what is this thing it's got too many numbers the address according to the police officer there's too many numbers oh by the way here's a sh somebody else you way back no I did not I get to ask him if he wants any of this information or are there too many numbers he was really like had a hard time staying calm the last time he's doing much better now yeah he actually he's probably watched the video I would imagine or he's been talked to about the video cuz he was like like there's too many numbers and he he's he's not wanting to communicate with the driver so like he asked me for my license which I gave him then he asked for my insurance and registration which I got out which he's not yet asked me for it's pretty interesting though that he asked me uh and that was pretty funny he's like can I use your huny and be be address interesting cuz that's not in your license and I was like well I don't have a hunting and Beach address and I don't when it comes to this car this car is registered to our address in Alberta that's the address the car belongs to the car by the way it's not my personal car it's in a company the car belongs to a corporation in Alberta so what color is your ha sorry me what color is your hair it's brown color your eyes green how tall are you 6 foot and your weight my weight yeah well it's the new year so it's a new me I'm trying to get down I think I'm 215 and your date of birth uh January 30th 1979 all that information should be on my license it's not it's not oh it's the kilograms in oh kilos gotcha so let me see the registration yeah sure so what's the issue with the car being a bit louder it's from Canada so it's a tourist car it's not from here so what would the ticket be for which model is this it's a merci logo so what was interesting was you said Can Can you said can you use my Huntington Beach address I don't understand that is this vehicle registered to you it's registered to the uh Corporation in Alberta so it's an Alberta car it's got Alberta plates you can you saw that right it covered I don't know what well you know now it's got Alberta registration yeah pardon me this is part of the company yes so what's what's the issue though like an out of state an out ofate car driving here is just like a noise violation what's the what's the ticket for November what's the ticket for I'll show you when I get done with this oh okay thank you without ADM go to the sign here yeah so what's the ticket for once you sign I'll explain everything to you you won't explain it to me before I sign it that seems a little unfair don't you think a lot Muffler pardon me L Muffler what so I don't understand though is how is I want to know the law so how is it that the laws please sign here cuz you're kind of UHD you guys know you have condensation in um not in trouble dude it's just telling you have condensation in your oh car understand you startled me there I wasn't sure you were there the whole time I'm sorry I was just telling you have condensation in your ta appreciate it thank you so what's the ticket for what's it no I understand that that so is it a fine or do I I'm warning you on the speed sorry you're warning me on the what pleas sign yes I'll sign it but I need to I need you to explain to me what the recorded right now okay you're kind of delaying my D is going no I understand but you're asking me to sign something I don't understand didn't to scare you dude I was just trying to tell you I didn't know if you knew or not I appreciate it can you explain the ticket to me he's asking to sign but not say the tickets for he's asking questions but he's not explaining it I just got here so I have no idea why he pulled you over I literally just driving down the street I saw he's out here so I just appreciate that maybe go talk to him cuz now he's walked away I just want to know what I'm signing he won't explain it to me is a what it's a mercy logo Mercy logo nice dude what year 2003 I I just want to know what the ticket's for you're saying low exhaust but I want to know like okay so is it a fine I don't understand the court handles that no I understand the court handles that I need I need to understand if you're pulling me over why have I done anything wrong if I'm from another country like my car is legally allowed to be here when I come here I'm not told it can't be a certain loudness it can't be a certain thing so you're saying something's wrong with my car I did something wrong and I'm asking you okay can you turn the radio down a little I can hear I had a helmet I can here it's hard to have a conversation with you if you want to give me a tiet there's no traffic AV intention you so I understand you're saying loud exhaust but H how is it a car from Canada is breaking the law 444 for2 can I sign here I know but so the ticket what's the ticket for though do I have to fix it do I have to pay a fine2 14 140 what do you mean that's for the court it's up to the court to decide you know you explain to them that it's you're not telling me what the ticket's like actually going to do what do you mean that that's what the Court's going to decide well explain to them that the vehicle doesn't belong here or it's not no the the vehicle belongs here a Canadian cars not allowed to come to the United States are Canadian cars not allowed to come here really like you're not going to answer any of my questions so I'm reading right here code loud Muffler speed visual estimation so your what's the speed visual estimation speeding what PR of me well you just said that you're writing me a ticket for a loud exhaust but now you're saying there's a speed thing on here so you're trying to sneak something else on here and you're trying to get me to sign something where did we draw the line on this one I don't what you P for speeding and loud exhaust but you just said just loud exhaust I mean he's delaying my duties right now you have until the 25th of uh Mar to take care of this if you don't agree with the citation you can go to court I will respond the judge make a decision okay yeah I think what we'll do is we'll go talk to your superiors have a good day later wow all right what Detachment is he from so he is Costa Mesa police department find me that address please so yeah you did get speeding ticket all right so I'm bringing my ticket to the office that that officer is from because I want to explain that one uh he wasn't explaining to me as you guys could see what my ticket was for he said loud exhaust but then I could see on the ticket there was more and I kept asking him well what's at four and then I could see well what's this and he's like well estimated speed too he was trying to get me to sign the ticket without explaining to me what the whole ticket was really about so he's being very misleading on purpose um Torres the officer also has a history of like harassing people I once I recognized him we know a lot of people in the car Community down here that he basically does this where he like tries to like fudge and basically push his um Power onto people in the car community so I'm going to go and talk to someone and I might even go as far as filing a complaint but this is what you can do if you feel like you're being pushed around or bullied or you've getting a you've gotten a ticket for something you shouldn't have got like legitimately you shouldn't have got now listen loud exhaust for sure one I actually wasn't speeding we were in traffic as Dave said we're driving through we're doing exactly the speed limit in in the city so his visual visual estimation that's just him throwing something on there that he has zero evidence zero proof of which I have a problem with so I'm you know I've also had a runin with him before he was very unprofessional he's obviously not yelling or anything today but he's also still being more unprofessional and this is years later so he has a habit of this so the only way to really combat this is you can go in and professionally and and you know calmly file a complaint on the officer yeah hey how's it going I know you um I came in to file a complaint on a police op you have a name I yeah Torres do you also have a superior here I can talk to yeah a superior like a sergeant or someone I can talk to about traffic thank so much thank you very much how's it going I see your videos oh thanks man I appreciate you watching what are you driving right now Mercy Lago yeah how's your how's your New Year been happy New Year Happy New Year to all right give me one second I'll grab some for you okay thank you very much cheers yeah can to help you hey how's it going good I just had a a traffic situation with officer Torres okay Officer Torres and I have uh had history okay um he pulled me over to today explained that he pulled me over for uh loud Muffler okay first of all my car myself we're tourist I'm from Canada car is not from here so I guess the first part is I'd like a little more clarification on um you know if a car from Canada that doesn't have the same emission standards or noise standards uh the province of Alberta that the car is registered to doesn't have a decel issue or anything got it um and is essentially exempt from you know having to follow those rules when traveling here based on the treaty between Canada and the United States just like we can drive down here on our Canadian licenses okay so you know giving me a ticket for loud loud exhaust is that a city ordinance that's a Cal California ordinance California V any vehicle on the road from California subjected California rules of the road and so if it's got crazy loud exhaust it's sub to that section I can I see what you cited you before yeah so here's here's the reason why I I have a real problem with it when you first approached me he asked me for my um driver's license okay he also asked me for my uh registration and insurance of course but um when I had all of it in my hand he only took my license okay he went back started writing the ticket immediately without insurance or registration okay he came back and said my British Columbia address won't populate in his computer system okay could he use my Huntington Beach address I said I don't have a Huntington Beach address okay so there's a company that I have down here that's in Huntington Beach so he knows my car he essentially knew the car knew who I was before he even pulled me over cuz there's no information on my driver's license or on my car that would suggest that I have a hunting Beach address down here so right away he's he's basically telling me indirectly I Know Who You Are I know your car's down here at this location at some point very very good assumption right so he's essentially uh targeting me on some level and then on top of all that he wrote on the ticket when he was trying to get me to sign it uh that I was speeding a visual estimate which he wouldn't verbally tell me what the ticket was all for I could see there was a whole bunch of stuff on it he was holding it up higher so I couldn't really see like he wasn't holding it like this he was holding it like this kept trying to get me to sign it and I was like well I want you to explain everything that's on the ticket sure and he wouldn't explain what was on the ticket he kept saying it's for for loud for loud Muffler and I was just like well there's more on the ticket and he looks at the other officer on the other side and goes what do we do here he he's not going to write this ticket or he's not going to sign the ticket and I said well I'll just sign it then I'm going to go to the police station and you know essentially file a complaint on you because you won't talk to me I asked you five six seven times what the tickets for or you're not telling me you're trying to get me to sign a ticket for things that are on here that you're not verbally telling me so here's the ticket and his visual estimation of me speeding is complete BS because we were driving through an intersection just before he pulled me over and I was in heavy flow of traffic and we had just basically from a red light proceeded through the intersection so I probably wasn't even up to the actual speed limit now look I'm not my car is probably loud based on some people's standards sure right um my car is foreign it's not from here okay I think based on you know some of the values that your guys' police station say that they follow things like professionalism I don't believe Torres was very professional today he's definitely not been professional in the past he's actually yelled at me I've made a video about that on the internet I do make videos and one of the other ones on your guys' values was empathy he showed zero empathy to me right and he's obviously got some sort of problem with me because he targeted the car he wrote me a ticket for speeding which I wasn't speeding and he even very clearly demonstrated he knew who we were because he told me I had a Huntington Beach address which nothing I gave him would let him know that all right so one I would like to a file a complaint and B you know I can deal with this in the courts I'm sure that's what you're going to tell me what so just help me understand things what are you exactly complaining about his unprofessionalism lack of communication around giving me a ticket you wouldn't explain to me what was going on and on some level I mean I'm sure it's like you know he's targeting me so I don't know if it falls into the harassment category cuz I haven't seen him in years but he knows who I am like he personally targeted my vehicle today thank you what's your name so prior to stopping you I I guess what I'm trying to understand is what you're alleging is that prior to stopping you he knew that it was you behind the wheel of the car y again I was in there I didn't see where he was I Pi something up from him not being there um I don't have any body camera footage to review yet so I can't of course going based upon what you've told me I haven't talked with him so I understand and thank you for clarifying the uh the California loud exhaust yeah we we've had this before um uh I was in court recently on a Case uh a car was registered in Vegas very loud didn't have um admissions stuff that's required in California and um the judge had upheld that yeah based upon the California vehicle code it's supposed to be in compliance despite the fact it's registered elsewhere so um I can't speak specifically to a US Canadian treaty and how the court May view that maybe they'll take that uh differently mhm yeah there's supposed to be some leniency and exemptions that if you're a tourist and you want to drive your vehicle down and it's you know not unsafe right unsafe would be different I understand that um you know you can't come here and and say well you know what in timbuk 2 we don't have to drive with seat belts and you're like well here you do right that's different um we're talking about a noise violation that is negligible negligible based on opinion of decel readings or whatever which he didn't take any of yeah again I I didn't hear car understand I can tell you from where I sit I get calls uh not probably not every day but certainly multiple times a week where um the residents in the community are up in arms over loud Vehicles street racing is a problem that we deal with here pretty regularly so well if there's any officers do try to address because Community wants it addressed so is yeah no I understand um if you want to file a compl provide you a form you're able to fill in the information yeah I fill them up before thank you is there a clipboard by chance yeah if you want to steal one of these clipboards you grab a seat fill it out and then uh when I'll try not to steal it that's probably illegal what's that that's just joking with you I said I'll probably try not to steal it that would be illegal but I'll come back up and we can I'll go over with you to make sure we got it all and understand what we're after okay thank you very much thanks sir very professional now I got this form to fill out this is what you got Civilian Complaint process it'll walk you through if you've never done this before like kind of what you have to do the steps what'll be followed up on and uh I'll just have to fill this up it's usually this front page and then you have to write like in full description somewhere what happened the events there it is yeah you go ham on that thing all right we'll do that we'll be right back all right so I've written it out which I hate writing but you basically write out on however many pieces of paper you want the incident what happened blah blah blah what you felt was unprofessional or whatever your complaint is the harassment and uh submit it and then just wait for a reply so this is what I'm going to do and uh we'll see where it goes from here I'll talk to that same Superior officer and just to be clear the complaint I'm filing is I'm filing a complaint for lack of communication he was being purposely vague so unprofessional un some level targeting me borderline obviously harassing me because I've had a run in with him in the past because he immediately implicated he knew who we were because he was like do you want me to write down your Huntington Beach address and there's nothing attached to my car or my driver's license or anything that we were doing in that moment to suggest otherwise like so he knew that he knew who we were so can he wrote me a bogus speeding ticket all right like I admitted hey the car is loud if that if it's loud and I have to take a ticket for being loud I'll take the loud ticket I'm not taking the BS ticket that he tried to write me for speeding I know this St here call the supervisor okay oh okay thank you yeah um so my best recommendation would be to contact the court because like when hearing is that like to like conflicting that's making confusing for you are you Mr yes sir you were in the car I was so um at the end of that thank you very much at the end of my what I wrote there I made reference to uh being pulled over by Officer Torres previously previous incident yeah and him being unprofessional un unempathetic as you guys state are in your values very combative and I have that on video in fact it's right here and this is his advice to someone when he's pulling someone over in the public what a sh well then don't think that's what people get into trouble when they start thinking you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think don't think why you so aggressive how am I aggressive listen I'm like you understand really so you know you never gave me that's your advice don't think okay yeah don't think why are you so aggressive how am I aggressive this video seen it at some point in the past so he clearly today saw the car targeted me now listen look my car is it loud in retrospect sure I have no problem with the loud exhaust ticket okay all right happy to take that but it's the this time cuz he knows we're filming the vagueness the not even willing to talk to me and then just clearly right off the bat obviously identifying that he knew of a Huntington Beach address that just implied to me he he just he saw me targeted me and then threw a a speeding ticket on there but was trying to cover it up with getting you to just sign it and take the ticket um which you'll see on the body cam footage when you get it from him but not explaining like anything further he's being very purposely you know vague to the point where now it's like it's too far the other direction and he's trying to get me to take a ticket that has speeding on there and he's not even identifying it speeding until I said well hold on there's something else on here and he goes well yeah yeah speeding a visual estimation which look I know you guys get trained in that stuff but I think for the most part A lot of people don't really believe that a visual estimation is a very accurate reading so yeah I just the form of harassment the unprofessionalism you know that's what I have a problem with and and the speeding ticket I don't have a problem with the exhaust ticket I know my car is loud if I have to get an exhaust ticket while I'm here with that car while it's in town for a bit and there's some sort of fine that I need to pay I understand that I understand that it's an out ofate car it's not going to be reprimanded in the sense of like the exhaust has to be taken off you know the idea is like hey look your car is loud you're going to pay kind of like a penalty for it being here while it's here right but at the same time you know that's also within the officer's judgment so like he didn't take any decel reading or anything the the law doesn't require a decel read sometimes they do um I understand sometimes they don't my point is this this all felt targeted in like retaliation for probably what he didn't like which is being held accountable for his previous unprofessional outlash telling telling people not to think I don't know as an officer and as a human being do you think telling people to not think is good advice sometimes it might be yeah I I I seen that sound clip I don't know the entirety of the contact um it's kind of like um a news clip there's often times you know an edited little snippet or sound bite so people well that that was in reference to me just giving him insurance and giving him my my information things can look differently without all the context having done the the job for 20 plus years um there's multiple sides every story the officer side your side um well the context of of not thinking was just simply me giving him the information frustrated there or annoyed with again I I don't know what led up to that I wasn't there I haven't seen yeah you can go watch the video it's all there the only parts that are cut out are the Dead Space nothing between him and IR is cut out also he got very frustrated in the fact that there were too many numbers for him to deal with it's like well I don't know like I'm from Canada we don't have zip codes we have postal codes so we have letters mixed in with numbers I don't know if the officer can't handle that but if he can't handle that he shouldn't be walking around with a badge and a gun that's my opinion yeah so again we'll take a look at all the information we'll review the the footage you obviously have your footage today he's got footage and it'll get sent up to our Professional Standards unit they're the ones that take a look all these and see if it violates policy um I know you made reference to um empath traffic officers their job is to write tickets not you know so saying you're looking for empathy from there that's the traffic officer's job that's what our chief expects them to do is to address traffic violation so um well was the EMP explaining the other stuff and unprofessionalism certainly we have a standard professionalism we expect our officers to act professionally with the public and the people they're dealing with out there so if that's an issue then that'll that'll certainly be addressed the empathy part comes from you guys have it written in your values for police it doesn't say that traffic officers are exempt from that doesn't mean we're not going to hold people the lawful legal standards of of course not but you shouldn't write you also shouldn't write tickets for something someone didn't do agree that's that's a waste of the Court's time that's a waste of everybody's time for lawful legitimate violation correct it's the exact thing that sent me in here today right now now now your time is here right and our time which we don't have better things to do than this that do a lot better for me than standing here and having this conversation but that's where the empathy comes into where he he went the complete opposite way there was a complete lack of any of that kind of emotion brought into the professional handling of the traffic violation which was the loud exhaust and then throwing in this other stuff as retaliation and all this other stuff or whatever like he clearly you know has had an issue in the past with me where he's gotten all can't control his emotions now look you guys are police officers like you guys go to special training to handle this exact situation all day every day you should be able to walk up to a car and have a calm conversation with someone who's also having a calm conversation with you if someone's being combative or disrespectful or whatever then I understand that's also why you guys are trained to stay stay composed stay in control but he's literally demonstrated in the past a lack of control right so I'm just saying like it just seems like he's doing that again just in not a ver as verbal of a way that's all that's why I'm here had he not written a speeding ticket which my business partner and I both know is I wouldn't even be here all right my car is loud I get it I'll pay that fine anything else no that's it all thank you for taking it you were very good thank you thank you and that's that a go man update you guys later\n"