Level1News - Do Androids Dream of Electric Cows -- 10_31_16

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We're starting off this inaugural episode of The News with some bad news. A group of hackers has been exploiting data sets for financial gain, including that of eighteenth century individuals who were unfortunate enough to have their information stored digitally. This raises serious concerns about the protection of personal data and the potential for commercial exploitation.

As we go into one of the weirdest presidential elections in history, it's clear that some candidates are more interested in warmongering than in protecting the American people. The story of Putin's new nuclear missile, dubbed "Satan," is a sobering reminder of the dangers of nuclear war. With its massive payload and erratic flight pattern, this missile would be nearly unstoppable, and existing shield technology wouldn't be effective against it.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is dealing with her own set of problems, including the hacking of Putin's aides' emails. This is just another example of how cyber warfare has become a major threat to national security. It's a stark reminder that we can't take our online security for granted and that even the most powerful politicians are not immune to these kinds of attacks.

**Linux News**

In other news, Fedora 25 has reached its final beta stage, and it's looking better than ever. This latest version is stable and reliable, making it a great option for anyone looking to upgrade their Linux system. We'll be covering more details on this in future episodes.

One forum post by edon caught our attention, highlighting the general state of Linux news. It's clear that there's still work to be done, but with communities like Fedora's, we're making progress. We'll be diving deeper into this topic in future episodes, so stay tuned for more updates on the world of Linux.

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"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enwelcome to the lo one new show that we don't have a name there's not a name if you've got an idea for a name put it in the comments or the description make a post in the forum forum that level one text calm because that's the new thing if you haven't heard about level one text and what's going on with that there's another link in the description that's that's below if you're if you're like wait a minute isn't this the hardware channel there's some things you should take a look at in the description we're not going to go over that now but I guess that kind of is the big news is that this is level one text calm sort of Logan and I split and he's continuing on with the Tek syndicate name and I get the hardware channel so this is there's gonna be more than just hardware videos but there's a video about that longer more info more info on the website more info everywhere else don't really get into it right now when you talk about the news when you talk about how the Internet of Things is here to kill us all literally one point something terrible point to one point three tear a bit the Internet of Things denial-of-service botnet zombie apocalypse it's really bad and my friend Ryan is here to help me so I'm not making a complete ass out of myself alone hey I'm gonna be an ass to look at that all right let's take a look at the news is there a one to have pagers hopefully in the description maybe we'll have time stamps who knows the Linux copy-on-write vulnerability it affects basically everything not just not just a lot of Linux but of course Android which is based on Linux because it's a deep enough it's a it's a problem that goes back like nine years plus or minus so pretty much everything that you can think of Linux related is affected if you haven't rebooted your server since about October 20th you need to reboot your server and your server runs Linux of course pretty much everything Linux is affected that's pretty serious the Internet of Things just the crazy thing is the murari botnet which is what existed before this which is by some internet of things devices like DVRs and cameras and stuff was not based on this vulnerability this vulnerability came out after that and so there are bad people that are actively working to augment that code with this code to build an even larger more powerful botnet so this is bad this is really bad this it's like oh there's zombies only it's only Atlanta from zombies only took out all the zombies got out of Atlanta it's now the entire oh no it's all of North America Loeb everybody's go on it really it's it's a bad sequel it's literally like they own the only story as it got worse I figured more powerful robots that's I thought you were going somewhere with some type of SQL injection joke and it was like where's it gonna go with this because it's a really bad simple and it's like oh we're already off the rails this is not good but you know I'm sure the Apple fanboys are celebrating but they have they shouldn't be because of course there's an Apple vulnerability this yeah the news with this one is that Google apparently settled its owner ability in the house of Mike OS which is as severe almost as severe as the the Linux copy I'm not vulnerable for five months it's yeah it's pretty serious and you got to wonder is it more dangerous to weak it and let the damage happen before they can patch it or is it more dangerous just to hide these things it is sort of an interesting dichotomy between these two problems the Linux copy-on-write thing definitely wasn't sitting on somebody's desk for five months out but that the the vulnerability here in Oz Mike OS could have been used to build a botnet just as just as quickly I mean it's it's it's pretty severe and you have to reboot your Linux machine in order to patch this you when you install the new kernel you'll have to patch unless you're running openSUSE with live patching in which case if you want to learn more about that in solid form you should google uptime funk and then watch out tong funk and then thank Brian London for writing me the lyrics for that and the production crew and all that and because openSUSE will let you patch the kernel while it's running and there are some patches to do that I had to be fair you know I you can make the argument that most of the internet isn't running on Apple systems so you know not that big a deal of some hipster musicians get routed ahem in comparison to the entire Internet most of the most of the Internet is running Linux No so most of the internet is not running openSUSE so you can't wait five months when it's an important product yeah that makes sense yeah it's Google's like I think part of it is probably also too that there's kind of a strained relationship between Apple and Google they're basically frenemies I think it's like Batman and the Joker owner which ones which you know things are bad when Scientific American is even doing an article on the Internet of Things and the Internet of Things is this out of control yes they say it's growing too fast outs I would go even further and I would say it's growing and people dot I think a lot of the Internet of Things customers don't understand that they're Internet of Things customers you know I think a lot of these IP camera owners didn't really get that they were they were part of this you get that call from your ISP and it's like sir we we think that your internet connected DVR is involved in some sort of botnet p2p scheme where there's a command and control server located and the guy on the other end of the phone is just like well I understood some of those words yeah and you know it's funny because you hear a lot of stories about people fail they'll run tor exit nodes and the next thing they know their doors are getting kicked in because a lot of law enforcement still doesn't get that hold the IP is not the person thing yeah so and actually we've got a story coming up later about these new trade agreements and that just makes that even more draconian so a lot of people have devices that are doing things that they don't know about and that can have more implications in the future between the murari botnets or sleek in this Linux cow thing I'm kind of surprised that nobody has put together a malware to add all of those compromised devices as tor exit notes because that would just create a whirlwind of insanity pretty much immediately would that would be amazing that would actually almost be a beneficial use of so I don't think they'll be you know that you're in a situation where things have gone completely off the rails when even Scientific American is talking about your you know your your waffle iron getting routed and being on the Internet the bastard operator from hell never intended for anybody to put the model three actually on the internet but here we have you know people actually putting a waffle lines and their coffee pots and whatever else with the internet and hackers are more than happy to take control of that and do scary stuff with it maybe maybe that's the thing maybe these marketing agencies you know it's moving so fast you have to get the new gimmicks that quickly they're returning things like that it's like what if we really did this it's kind of like how the government uses 1984 as a guidebook instead of a warning oh my goodness well the other news this week is Apple okay when we started the draft outline for this it was like there's all this Apple crap and we don't really care but there's actually some interesting stuff you can talked about with the new Apple laptops and some of the new some of the new Apple hardware so the first thing is that Apple on their new back books has gone all USB type-c now USB type-c if you've been living under a rock is the reversible USB connection that may optionally incorporate a thunderbolt which is a PCI Express type connectivity PCI Express bus for some laptops like the Dell XPS 13 and the Razer Blade stealth that I took a look at it uses PCI Express 3.0 through that USB type-c port and that's what the that's what the new MacBooks feature and I've got the 15-inch for example has four of them but it's kind of weird well yet now us PC that's what's on the iPhone right no oh the I less is lightweight that's what's on the iPad yes no no no so wait till no Apple devices no no that's interesting no no there's just nothing there's nothing there Wow now what about the Apple watch no no no no no here's the here's the real mind blowing 1 what about the Apple headphones you know apples like you're winning digital audio we just can't do this analog a headphone port blah blah blah so the new iPhone 7 uses the Lightning headphones you know some of the new MacBooks have a Lightning port for their headphones too right oh oh oh you just make it too easy you make it too lazy but it's okay because Apple will take care of you go on their store for $25 they'll sell you a conversion cable so you're gonna go ahead you want to get the new the new Apple product you're gonna get your conversion cable you get your wired headphones for use with your macbook and you get your wireless headphones for use with your iPhone and complete freedom that's when you get all those things so I basically need adapter cables for pretty much all of these connectors plus some of the connectors that you mentioned which are not even pictured here except for power it comes with power that's the USB type-c okay cool I mean that makes sense that's that's that's fine this totally thing I guess I could I guess I could kind of see that oh wait no the USB type-c connectors on one side of the laptop are different than the ones on the other the ones on the right side have reduced PCI Express bandwidth so we sacrificed to bring you this new feature but not really why would they do that why would they do that that makes the Nelson they would have to put in a PCI Express Bridge if everything wasn't gonna be connected but that's something that Apple would normally do why would they why would they do this yeah Thunderbolt is available on all four ports but you can't use the full PCI Express bandwidth for any devices I mean are they gonna have a little pop-up that's like no I'm sorry plug that in the wrong port you can plug it into this other port somewhere else that is otherwise identical except for the physical location that just seems it's also interesting that they would choose the right side to I mean what percentage of the population is right-handed Oh seems pretty nasty I can't remember what on the old MacBooks I can't remember I guess on the left it was on the left side on the old MacBooks that they had the Thunderbolt ports but I don't know the other big thing is they reduced the the watt hours of the batteries and so yeah yeah I mean the old bank books we're talking about a four year old CPU versus sky like they didn't even go for cabby late we're gonna talk about that in a minute the skylight CPUs are dramatically more power frugal than previous generations but that's kind of misleading because they're not really that much more power through GLE under load there's that much more power frugal when they're idle or doing lot tasks so if you're using your machine Full Tilt the battery is going to run down a lot sooner I mean there's not really a lot of power savings between the old version the Oh 4-year old version of the CPU and the modern version of the CPU when the CPU and all the peripherals in the machine are fully loaded in terms of idle the hardware acceleration things like hardware x264 acceleration yeah absolutely that is gonna make a huge difference in battery life and that the battery life is going to be better so instead of having a better battery Apple opted to basically cut the battery about in half maybe well maybe half in worst case scenario and so like the 13-inch MacBook ended up with a worse situation in terms of even web browsing and watching a movie but Apple says that it's a better situation for watching a movie or doing web browsing on like those types of tasks on the 15-inch MacBook but I think that when the reviews are in when people are actually using this for anything heavier than just web browsing which is one of the lightest tasks you can do I think the battery life is going to be significantly worse in the prior generation and that's unfortunate and that's not the only fun feature that we've learned about these beautiful new MacBooks they have another feature I'm sure it's a feature right that they are limited to 16 gigabytes of arena oh yeah that's power related yeah yeah because of that and again battery life is a concern it's like off with the 32 gigabytes of RAM in there that's gonna use too much power it's like what Wow Wow did they is that I want to see the teardown like if the circuit board is not twice as large if they didn't use all of that extra real estate for more complicated circuits I mean if they save that much room shrinking the batteries his battery technologies improved a lot in four years - can they have afforded the PCI Express switch I mean shrilly to God that could put a PCI Express switch in there so it didn't matter where you plug in your PCI Express peripherals but 16 gigabytes of RAM it seems like a lot now but again MacBook Pro and look at the life cycle of the previous generation in previous generation knightwood pros were four years so if this thing in four years is running skylake and 16 gigabytes of RAM I'm gonna have to laugh derisively at that you know they probably needed that room for the headphone jack the real headphone jack not the Lightning headphones not exactly gonna come out with a refresh model where it's got both and it's like we got both guys it's fine then they come out with an adapter like an analog adapter I guess you could do the USB type-c analog adapter that's what the phones have done some of them so that's maybe an option that I'm I thought I can never find it I needed the adapter yeah I knew that that's gonna be great Microsoft has come out with the surface studio you know Apple's not the Apple I think Apple had their press event after Microsoft so if you haven't seen at the surface studio is this it's a desktop computer it's this huge 28 inch super high-resolution display four by three aspect ratio you know true to life colors it's can switch between the Adobe the full Adobe color gamut and like what normal people have so the designers can use that Microsoft seems to be targeting creatives and you know I watched the ad for this it's this 28 inch you know studio PC kind of thing and I watch the ad and so it can go from this sort of easel configuration with a pan of course and touch to this sort of stand up configuration and I thought that was that was sort of interesting where they were going with that and you know you watch this ad you think it's an Apple ad yeah it doesn't seem like it's it's sort of targeted toward the hipster community it seems it's got a whacky peripheral that doesn't seem all that useful are you talking about the puck it's using last year's processor technology this seems like an Apple device yeah this doesn't have cat be like either it is using a quad core part and quad core cab you like parts are basically unavailable right now so this is probably not available until really late in the engineering cycle the other old technology this uses is a nine ATM at the top and for graphics in Nvidia 980m they didn't even go for the 1080 parts and you would think with the dramatically reduced power reduction than throttling and thermal improvements that NVIDIA has made with the 10 series graphics card that that would be featured here but it's not it's it's it's a 9 Series it's a 980 the engineering and everything that went into this it really does feel like this would be an iMac and at the Microsoft press event they also talked a lot about the creative update for Windows 10 so I think Microsoft is trying to target the creative types that historically have been very loyal to Apple it seems like a weird market to try to break into considering that cult sort of that iconic way that Apple controls those people your time to finally get shot at a puck the puck is this sort of mechanical switch that you can use on the screen you can use on the desk you know where wherever that you might forever that you might use it it's wireless Bluetooth peripheral and it's really not I mean it really doesn't seem like it would be that useful at the actual press event if you watch the guy use it there that they have a digital artist come out and the digital artist is is doing something with it and when he's you know using it for zoom or something like that he uses it for zoom at first but then he takes his fingers any any sort of does does the pinching motion and so I'm not really sure I'm not really sure how useful this is actually gonna be in the real world like that yeah it seems like a rotational control I mean touch'd rotational control but haven't we been doing that since the iPod I mean we've pretty much got that and it's pretty accurate and simple to use do we really need this do we need another wheel on the mouse I mean I've reinvented the winner I don't really I don't really understand that it doesn't and it's everybody's trying to reinvent user interface and I guess that's good I guess it's good to do experimentation but we thought it was really interesting to the contrast between Apple they sort is still issuing the touchscreen but they've got a touch bar where the function keys would normally be and Microsoft where they're gone for the 10 foot 10 point touchscreen but also this puck thing which I guess theoretically would reduce the amount of greasy fingerprints that you actually put on the screen and so apples like no no we still don't think it's a good idea for people to touch the screen we've got this fancy touch bar and one of the demos like they were editing a movie and Final Cut and so the timeline for file cut was was on the touch bar they were dragging custom screens there but they've done that at a cost of removing the function keys there's no escape there's no f1 none of that it's I mean as a programmer I can't imagine not having escaped an f1 as physical keys all the time no matter what you know no matter what I'm doing I imagine the effect that's gonna have on legacy software I mean you need those keys there has to be some sort of simulation or something right I mean no they just get rid of them completely yeah I think when you're probably running legacy applications is probably going to give you the function keys or you can drag it down there and you know you still have escaped and that kind of thing but just not having the physical attack frustrating yeah as a developer I would have to really really have to try that and make sure that that's not just the most awful terrible I'm gonna you know in VII I would go back to control C instead of escape I mean I don't I wouldn't know what else to do there's no escaping if you're an Apple user there's no escape or there's no help is that is that really what we're going for I don't think I could function in that environment how I don't think I want to so the other big story from Apple and this is SC I don't really get on the hive training especially for Apple you know these these are hour-long commercials that are events yeah you pay me but this story I love I see Tim Cook says he's gonna kill cash you know that's a bold statement Johnny Cash has already did we don't know Tim Cook didn't kill him that's never been proven but the thing that terrifies me about this and of course Tim Cook you know he's gonna sell it to you as a convenience thing and a safety thing you know I've somebody steals your phone they can't necessarily spend your money and cash is dirty and you know gets stolen and it or you lose it or whatever but to me there's a more insidious aspect of this because Tim Cook isn't the only person who wants to get rid of cash for a long time a lot of big names in the financial world have been talking about getting rid of cash and government's the world over are getting rid of large denomination bills and they say you know it's terrorists and drug dealers we got a combat terrorists and drug dealers about taking away cash cash is bad now those pallets of cash that we sent to Iran in that ransom deal I assume those aren't included in that because that we did that we can't apply those no yeah I can definitely remember speeches from politicians where it's like you can take any you know dollar bill and test that for cocaine and it's gonna test positive because we've got a massive drug problem in this country and the war on drugs and the war on terror but really in my mind you know a bit of a conspiracy theorist theorists here not really and the European Union we have something known as negative rates now if you're not familiar with what that means when it banks banks have a reserve ratio and when they have more money than that they can park that money at the central bank and they earn money from that interest so you know instead of hoarding cash and maybe getting robbed you simply do that with ones and zeros and you earn a little bit of money but now with negative rates you're actually paying for that investment we found a great article about that as financial times but we've reloaded it so many times that wants us to pay for it now doesn't affect you as a depositor yet so far the banks are just eating the cost and it's a small amount but if it keeps up someday it is gonna affect the positives and if all of a sudden I told you tomorrow hey you know that money that you have in the bank you have to pay to keep that money in the bank what would you do there's gonna be a run on the bank he's gonna be running the bank but how do you stop that well Tim Cook has the answer keep it with Apple well I think that pays from your bank account right yeah yeah so and it really it really is crazy but I mean I would love to hear from people in the European Union about what you've heard about that now theoretically the negative rates don't affect consumers yet but it will it absolutely will because consumers I mean the banks that the consumers user are looking to do crazy stuff like physically securely store large piles of cash because that will be affected by the negative interest rate which seems completely insane but I think that there's other interesting stuff that's happening as a result of that like for example Swiss rail operators are starting to sell bitcoins at ticket machines now as a result of that which is why we mentioned it yeah so get rid of cash is this core of course something that's known as a capital control and Shawn has been on this capital control thing for years now especially lately they're trying to stop Chinese money from leaving the country because they have a big problem with that and one of the things that always benefits when they introduce new capital controls is Bitcoin so in here we have another story and if you've been monitoring the price of Bitcoin it's gone up quite a bit in the past week yeah over like $700 it's at yeah it's over 700 or was looks like it's gone back down a little bit now but yeah the high 707 so alternative currencies benefit when these kinds of crazy financial things happen and you know you threaten the freedom of one kind of money and you move to another kind of money so it's driving big Collingwood a negative interest rates I don't think anybody intended for that to happen but it is sort of kind of happenings really it's it's really interesting we want to this is something that we will follow a lot in the future Bitcoin and currencies and and how the sort of the world currency market is sort of driving us because technology because of the blockchain and because of things like Bitcoin technology has the option to be subversive or liberating depending on how it's used and how it's implemented in what other policies are going on at the same time so it's gonna be really interesting to see how that shakes out are you implying that a government program had unintended consequences that's everything we don't really have another Segway if we don't really have a good Segway or whatever worry what topic could you segue into this one on we we don't know Facebook apparently lets advertisers exclude users by race which is interesting on so many levels the details now of course you we don't want to call this racial profiling please King it because that would be illegal clearly clearly Facebook has a name for this ethnic affinities that sounds good doesn't it let's talk about our ethnic affinities let's go around the room let's pass around the Talking Stick and talk about our ethnic affinities but they have the screenshots here and I will show you when you're buying ads you can actually choose you know things here likely to move buying a house all these things that they've tracked about their users with all their data mining and while you're at it pick the races you want to show it to African American Asian American it's bet I want to know if these graphics from this is actually something that was something that Facebook came up with I think this is probably just but I just and how did they bring that up in a meeting like how like they got the developers together they got the developers in a room and it was like okay we need to add racial profiling to the website but the middle managers can't use that terminology at all I mean it we played a lot so I mean how did that how did that meeting come down it's like we need to group users according to their genetic history and diversity and imagine like you know like the h-1b programmers and like the language barrier yeah a little bit of a language barrier they're like what I don't quite fall and of course all these people are the things that is like okay let's go over it again ethnic affinities so it's an advertiser I can say I'm like let's say that I was a rice cooker manufacturer I could I could just go on my ethnic affinity control panel and only advertise to a certain race that doesn't this is just I can't I can't even believe this is a thing I can't even believe this is a thing and in America we have it's called Jim Crow laws which are laws designed to prevent this kind of discrimination but it's sort of the opposite you can't have an advertisement that says you know no black people or no Asian people or whatever that would be against the law but in this case the advertisers are not advertising directly to the people they're targeting it's like as if you have a newspaper that would display a different ad depending on what your ethnicity is which apparently is a loophole but I think it's probably against the spirit of the law at least here in America well and also it's funny that the example used here and apparently with the way they found out about this is housing because we have these crazy equal housing laws and you can't even I mean sometimes you can't turn down people for valid reasons if they are one of these protected classes so for Facebook to do this particular thing is really really really amazing it seems a little crazy this is just I'm feeling we'll be hearing more about this story yeah you know what I don't think we'll see any more the story is on the trending Facebook I might suppress it I think they buy speaking of companies behaving badly with customers beta 18 fees in the news again by getting rich by spying on customers and selling the data to the government this is actually not news to us we've known about this for like ten years zero surprising everybody always talks about this this is a recent article from October 27 but I mean let's face it this is actually nothing new and in fact not only is it nothing new the FCC also passed rules say hey we need to protect customers from you know from this this is not going to matter because there's already stuff in law to protect ISPs from this there's this helping versus 18t case where 18th he was caught with their hand in the till previously and they were given retroactive immunity because there was a some FISA Court rulings and it was basically fine so not only did they do that they actually do it sort of boldly last year I talked a little bit about AT&T charging you $30 extras for enhanced privacy meaning they don't spy on you on your internet connection and most people didn't really even notice this most people are not even really aware that this is happening these FCC changes are designed to make make it to where people have to explicitly opt-in to do this but it doesn't really address the fact that a company like AT&T can charge you exorbitant Lee for for not spying on you I mean $29 a month is nuts and also you know what little outrage there was when that retroactive immunity came down was probably explained away in terms of no no no it's okay we're gonna stop them it's gonna be the last time we're gonna fix it nobody needs to go to jail it's gonna be okay and here we are the exact same thing but of course you know they're selling the data to the very people who are making the laws so maybe a conflict of interests yeah this is using the data for government purposes using the data for commercial purposes using the data any way that they can so because they have the data the temptation to use the data or exploit the data commercially oh and you can better believe but if eighteenth he ever has any financial problems and it's like oh gosh you know judge we're we're in trouble we need to you know we really need to tap into this data set that we have the Bankruptcy Court is absolutely gonna let them commercialize that accent where they have it previously you can favor grieve not oh yeah you protect the bondholders at any cost and of course the the project hemisphere that was the other big story about ATT that was the government directly buying data and for you know law enforcement and spying purposes which is just crazy you know I but not only are they spying on us they're farming it out they're not even doing themselves well that's how you do an end run around the Constitution it's like people can be secure in their persons papers but if eighteenth he's got your data an eighteen t gives you up wow that's not unconstitutional at all absolutely fine if you sign a service agreement that says we can steal it hey what's gonna stop us that's really bad sorry American we should have little flags the only other thing that we had which is an amazing piece of technologies as Russia has unveiled the Satan to missile couldn't even make up that name this is a nuclear missile that will destroy an area the size of France or Texas yeah and for those of you who aren't Americans Texas is a really big state it's the size of France hahaha so this is a 10-ton missile I mean think about the size of that and not only is it big but it has some new technology now this is all of course from the Russian propaganda machine reported by the fear porn American press so maybe it's not as bad as it could be but even if it were half is bad the other feature is it moves in an erratic pattern so that existing missile shield technology isn't effective against it oh this says a hundred tons a hundred times so the missile will have all the warhead oh yeah the word warhead is ten times yeah it was ten tons of nuclear material okay okay yeah okay yeah a hundred ton payload or no a hundred ton whatever a ten ton payload tent on nuclear payload which is impressive you know that's a that's a lot of a lot of nuclear material I wonder how many of those they're gonna make and with a range of eleven thousand miles that would almost reach Texas yeah yeah well you can launch it from a ship you know a missile sub they'll definitely reach Texas on international waters that's it's a very comforting thing as we go into one of the weirdest presidential elections that we've ever had and some somewhat warmongering political candidates might get in power so what you're saying is Putin has this weapon and Hillary's bitching about her email well that's another story you know we didn't cover that but the quote-unquote Ukrainians oh yeah have creamy and they've retaliated they've hacked Putin's aides email how the poor Ukrainians manua every time it's like that friend where it's friends with both the husband and the wife and every time they get in a fight that person is directed that's at a Ukraine it's a Ukraine and Syria with Iran oh yeah that that common friend is shooting down planes all kinds of really bad stuff yeah we don't that's probably it's just we've gone off the rails this is listen this is their inaugural episode of the news there's there's a bunch more news we could cover there's a lot of Linux news a lot more Linux news other than the copy-on-write thing Fedora 25 is basically in final beta at this point it's really good it's really stable we've got a really amazing forum post that was done by edon on the forum about the general state of Linux news that's something I think I'm gonna cover we're basically just spooling up this level one thing so there's a ton of work to do thanks for sticking with us this long I'll Pugh stick with us for the future we're signing off for the news for now should see a lot of content from us soon but we got to get all our ducks in a row for the website and hosting the web server and get the design finalized there's a new design and hopefully you like it and we've been busy hopefully do this once a week yeah yeah so the idea is we'll do this once a week let us know what your feedback is that if you hated part of it tell us about it we'll probably change out the stream computer because a lot of the equipment that we're using right now is basically borrowed so actually there's a little insider note this is the third take but if the other ones crashed at the AT&T story it's 18 t yeah all right we'll see you guys later Selah form yeahwelcome to the lo one new show that we don't have a name there's not a name if you've got an idea for a name put it in the comments or the description make a post in the forum forum that level one text calm because that's the new thing if you haven't heard about level one text and what's going on with that there's another link in the description that's that's below if you're if you're like wait a minute isn't this the hardware channel there's some things you should take a look at in the description we're not going to go over that now but I guess that kind of is the big news is that this is level one text calm sort of Logan and I split and he's continuing on with the Tek syndicate name and I get the hardware channel so this is there's gonna be more than just hardware videos but there's a video about that longer more info more info on the website more info everywhere else don't really get into it right now when you talk about the news when you talk about how the Internet of Things is here to kill us all literally one point something terrible point to one point three tear a bit the Internet of Things denial-of-service botnet zombie apocalypse it's really bad and my friend Ryan is here to help me so I'm not making a complete ass out of myself alone hey I'm gonna be an ass to look at that all right let's take a look at the news is there a one to have pagers hopefully in the description maybe we'll have time stamps who knows the Linux copy-on-write vulnerability it affects basically everything not just not just a lot of Linux but of course Android which is based on Linux because it's a deep enough it's a it's a problem that goes back like nine years plus or minus so pretty much everything that you can think of Linux related is affected if you haven't rebooted your server since about October 20th you need to reboot your server and your server runs Linux of course pretty much everything Linux is affected that's pretty serious the Internet of Things just the crazy thing is the murari botnet which is what existed before this which is by some internet of things devices like DVRs and cameras and stuff was not based on this vulnerability this vulnerability came out after that and so there are bad people that are actively working to augment that code with this code to build an even larger more powerful botnet so this is bad this is really bad this it's like oh there's zombies only it's only Atlanta from zombies only took out all the zombies got out of Atlanta it's now the entire oh no it's all of North America Loeb everybody's go on it really it's it's a bad sequel it's literally like they own the only story as it got worse I figured more powerful robots that's I thought you were going somewhere with some type of SQL injection joke and it was like where's it gonna go with this because it's a really bad simple and it's like oh we're already off the rails this is not good but you know I'm sure the Apple fanboys are celebrating but they have they shouldn't be because of course there's an Apple vulnerability this yeah the news with this one is that Google apparently settled its owner ability in the house of Mike OS which is as severe almost as severe as the the Linux copy I'm not vulnerable for five months it's yeah it's pretty serious and you got to wonder is it more dangerous to weak it and let the damage happen before they can patch it or is it more dangerous just to hide these things it is sort of an interesting dichotomy between these two problems the Linux copy-on-write thing definitely wasn't sitting on somebody's desk for five months out but that the the vulnerability here in Oz Mike OS could have been used to build a botnet just as just as quickly I mean it's it's it's pretty severe and you have to reboot your Linux machine in order to patch this you when you install the new kernel you'll have to patch unless you're running openSUSE with live patching in which case if you want to learn more about that in solid form you should google uptime funk and then watch out tong funk and then thank Brian London for writing me the lyrics for that and the production crew and all that and because openSUSE will let you patch the kernel while it's running and there are some patches to do that I had to be fair you know I you can make the argument that most of the internet isn't running on Apple systems so you know not that big a deal of some hipster musicians get routed ahem in comparison to the entire Internet most of the most of the Internet is running Linux No so most of the internet is not running openSUSE so you can't wait five months when it's an important product yeah that makes sense yeah it's Google's like I think part of it is probably also too that there's kind of a strained relationship between Apple and Google they're basically frenemies I think it's like Batman and the Joker owner which ones which you know things are bad when Scientific American is even doing an article on the Internet of Things and the Internet of Things is this out of control yes they say it's growing too fast outs I would go even further and I would say it's growing and people dot I think a lot of the Internet of Things customers don't understand that they're Internet of Things customers you know I think a lot of these IP camera owners didn't really get that they were they were part of this you get that call from your ISP and it's like sir we we think that your internet connected DVR is involved in some sort of botnet p2p scheme where there's a command and control server located and the guy on the other end of the phone is just like well I understood some of those words yeah and you know it's funny because you hear a lot of stories about people fail they'll run tor exit nodes and the next thing they know their doors are getting kicked in because a lot of law enforcement still doesn't get that hold the IP is not the person thing yeah so and actually we've got a story coming up later about these new trade agreements and that just makes that even more draconian so a lot of people have devices that are doing things that they don't know about and that can have more implications in the future between the murari botnets or sleek in this Linux cow thing I'm kind of surprised that nobody has put together a malware to add all of those compromised devices as tor exit notes because that would just create a whirlwind of insanity pretty much immediately would that would be amazing that would actually almost be a beneficial use of so I don't think they'll be you know that you're in a situation where things have gone completely off the rails when even Scientific American is talking about your you know your your waffle iron getting routed and being on the Internet the bastard operator from hell never intended for anybody to put the model three actually on the internet but here we have you know people actually putting a waffle lines and their coffee pots and whatever else with the internet and hackers are more than happy to take control of that and do scary stuff with it maybe maybe that's the thing maybe these marketing agencies you know it's moving so fast you have to get the new gimmicks that quickly they're returning things like that it's like what if we really did this it's kind of like how the government uses 1984 as a guidebook instead of a warning oh my goodness well the other news this week is Apple okay when we started the draft outline for this it was like there's all this Apple crap and we don't really care but there's actually some interesting stuff you can talked about with the new Apple laptops and some of the new some of the new Apple hardware so the first thing is that Apple on their new back books has gone all USB type-c now USB type-c if you've been living under a rock is the reversible USB connection that may optionally incorporate a thunderbolt which is a PCI Express type connectivity PCI Express bus for some laptops like the Dell XPS 13 and the Razer Blade stealth that I took a look at it uses PCI Express 3.0 through that USB type-c port and that's what the that's what the new MacBooks feature and I've got the 15-inch for example has four of them but it's kind of weird well yet now us PC that's what's on the iPhone right no oh the I less is lightweight that's what's on the iPad yes no no no so wait till no Apple devices no no that's interesting no no there's just nothing there's nothing there Wow now what about the Apple watch no no no no no here's the here's the real mind blowing 1 what about the Apple headphones you know apples like you're winning digital audio we just can't do this analog a headphone port blah blah blah so the new iPhone 7 uses the Lightning headphones you know some of the new MacBooks have a Lightning port for their headphones too right oh oh oh you just make it too easy you make it too lazy but it's okay because Apple will take care of you go on their store for $25 they'll sell you a conversion cable so you're gonna go ahead you want to get the new the new Apple product you're gonna get your conversion cable you get your wired headphones for use with your macbook and you get your wireless headphones for use with your iPhone and complete freedom that's when you get all those things so I basically need adapter cables for pretty much all of these connectors plus some of the connectors that you mentioned which are not even pictured here except for power it comes with power that's the USB type-c okay cool I mean that makes sense that's that's that's fine this totally thing I guess I could I guess I could kind of see that oh wait no the USB type-c connectors on one side of the laptop are different than the ones on the other the ones on the right side have reduced PCI Express bandwidth so we sacrificed to bring you this new feature but not really why would they do that why would they do that that makes the Nelson they would have to put in a PCI Express Bridge if everything wasn't gonna be connected but that's something that Apple would normally do why would they why would they do this yeah Thunderbolt is available on all four ports but you can't use the full PCI Express bandwidth for any devices I mean are they gonna have a little pop-up that's like no I'm sorry plug that in the wrong port you can plug it into this other port somewhere else that is otherwise identical except for the physical location that just seems it's also interesting that they would choose the right side to I mean what percentage of the population is right-handed Oh seems pretty nasty I can't remember what on the old MacBooks I can't remember I guess on the left it was on the left side on the old MacBooks that they had the Thunderbolt ports but I don't know the other big thing is they reduced the the watt hours of the batteries and so yeah yeah I mean the old bank books we're talking about a four year old CPU versus sky like they didn't even go for cabby late we're gonna talk about that in a minute the skylight CPUs are dramatically more power frugal than previous generations but that's kind of misleading because they're not really that much more power through GLE under load there's that much more power frugal when they're idle or doing lot tasks so if you're using your machine Full Tilt the battery is going to run down a lot sooner I mean there's not really a lot of power savings between the old version the Oh 4-year old version of the CPU and the modern version of the CPU when the CPU and all the peripherals in the machine are fully loaded in terms of idle the hardware acceleration things like hardware x264 acceleration yeah absolutely that is gonna make a huge difference in battery life and that the battery life is going to be better so instead of having a better battery Apple opted to basically cut the battery about in half maybe well maybe half in worst case scenario and so like the 13-inch MacBook ended up with a worse situation in terms of even web browsing and watching a movie but Apple says that it's a better situation for watching a movie or doing web browsing on like those types of tasks on the 15-inch MacBook but I think that when the reviews are in when people are actually using this for anything heavier than just web browsing which is one of the lightest tasks you can do I think the battery life is going to be significantly worse in the prior generation and that's unfortunate and that's not the only fun feature that we've learned about these beautiful new MacBooks they have another feature I'm sure it's a feature right that they are limited to 16 gigabytes of arena oh yeah that's power related yeah yeah because of that and again battery life is a concern it's like off with the 32 gigabytes of RAM in there that's gonna use too much power it's like what Wow Wow did they is that I want to see the teardown like if the circuit board is not twice as large if they didn't use all of that extra real estate for more complicated circuits I mean if they save that much room shrinking the batteries his battery technologies improved a lot in four years - can they have afforded the PCI Express switch I mean shrilly to God that could put a PCI Express switch in there so it didn't matter where you plug in your PCI Express peripherals but 16 gigabytes of RAM it seems like a lot now but again MacBook Pro and look at the life cycle of the previous generation in previous generation knightwood pros were four years so if this thing in four years is running skylake and 16 gigabytes of RAM I'm gonna have to laugh derisively at that you know they probably needed that room for the headphone jack the real headphone jack not the Lightning headphones not exactly gonna come out with a refresh model where it's got both and it's like we got both guys it's fine then they come out with an adapter like an analog adapter I guess you could do the USB type-c analog adapter that's what the phones have done some of them so that's maybe an option that I'm I thought I can never find it I needed the adapter yeah I knew that that's gonna be great Microsoft has come out with the surface studio you know Apple's not the Apple I think Apple had their press event after Microsoft so if you haven't seen at the surface studio is this it's a desktop computer it's this huge 28 inch super high-resolution display four by three aspect ratio you know true to life colors it's can switch between the Adobe the full Adobe color gamut and like what normal people have so the designers can use that Microsoft seems to be targeting creatives and you know I watched the ad for this it's this 28 inch you know studio PC kind of thing and I watch the ad and so it can go from this sort of easel configuration with a pan of course and touch to this sort of stand up configuration and I thought that was that was sort of interesting where they were going with that and you know you watch this ad you think it's an Apple ad yeah it doesn't seem like it's it's sort of targeted toward the hipster community it seems it's got a whacky peripheral that doesn't seem all that useful are you talking about the puck it's using last year's processor technology this seems like an Apple device yeah this doesn't have cat be like either it is using a quad core part and quad core cab you like parts are basically unavailable right now so this is probably not available until really late in the engineering cycle the other old technology this uses is a nine ATM at the top and for graphics in Nvidia 980m they didn't even go for the 1080 parts and you would think with the dramatically reduced power reduction than throttling and thermal improvements that NVIDIA has made with the 10 series graphics card that that would be featured here but it's not it's it's it's a 9 Series it's a 980 the engineering and everything that went into this it really does feel like this would be an iMac and at the Microsoft press event they also talked a lot about the creative update for Windows 10 so I think Microsoft is trying to target the creative types that historically have been very loyal to Apple it seems like a weird market to try to break into considering that cult sort of that iconic way that Apple controls those people your time to finally get shot at a puck the puck is this sort of mechanical switch that you can use on the screen you can use on the desk you know where wherever that you might forever that you might use it it's wireless Bluetooth peripheral and it's really not I mean it really doesn't seem like it would be that useful at the actual press event if you watch the guy use it there that they have a digital artist come out and the digital artist is is doing something with it and when he's you know using it for zoom or something like that he uses it for zoom at first but then he takes his fingers any any sort of does does the pinching motion and so I'm not really sure I'm not really sure how useful this is actually gonna be in the real world like that yeah it seems like a rotational control I mean touch'd rotational control but haven't we been doing that since the iPod I mean we've pretty much got that and it's pretty accurate and simple to use do we really need this do we need another wheel on the mouse I mean I've reinvented the winner I don't really I don't really understand that it doesn't and it's everybody's trying to reinvent user interface and I guess that's good I guess it's good to do experimentation but we thought it was really interesting to the contrast between Apple they sort is still issuing the touchscreen but they've got a touch bar where the function keys would normally be and Microsoft where they're gone for the 10 foot 10 point touchscreen but also this puck thing which I guess theoretically would reduce the amount of greasy fingerprints that you actually put on the screen and so apples like no no we still don't think it's a good idea for people to touch the screen we've got this fancy touch bar and one of the demos like they were editing a movie and Final Cut and so the timeline for file cut was was on the touch bar they were dragging custom screens there but they've done that at a cost of removing the function keys there's no escape there's no f1 none of that it's I mean as a programmer I can't imagine not having escaped an f1 as physical keys all the time no matter what you know no matter what I'm doing I imagine the effect that's gonna have on legacy software I mean you need those keys there has to be some sort of simulation or something right I mean no they just get rid of them completely yeah I think when you're probably running legacy applications is probably going to give you the function keys or you can drag it down there and you know you still have escaped and that kind of thing but just not having the physical attack frustrating yeah as a developer I would have to really really have to try that and make sure that that's not just the most awful terrible I'm gonna you know in VII I would go back to control C instead of escape I mean I don't I wouldn't know what else to do there's no escaping if you're an Apple user there's no escape or there's no help is that is that really what we're going for I don't think I could function in that environment how I don't think I want to so the other big story from Apple and this is SC I don't really get on the hive training especially for Apple you know these these are hour-long commercials that are events yeah you pay me but this story I love I see Tim Cook says he's gonna kill cash you know that's a bold statement Johnny Cash has already did we don't know Tim Cook didn't kill him that's never been proven but the thing that terrifies me about this and of course Tim Cook you know he's gonna sell it to you as a convenience thing and a safety thing you know I've somebody steals your phone they can't necessarily spend your money and cash is dirty and you know gets stolen and it or you lose it or whatever but to me there's a more insidious aspect of this because Tim Cook isn't the only person who wants to get rid of cash for a long time a lot of big names in the financial world have been talking about getting rid of cash and government's the world over are getting rid of large denomination bills and they say you know it's terrorists and drug dealers we got a combat terrorists and drug dealers about taking away cash cash is bad now those pallets of cash that we sent to Iran in that ransom deal I assume those aren't included in that because that we did that we can't apply those no yeah I can definitely remember speeches from politicians where it's like you can take any you know dollar bill and test that for cocaine and it's gonna test positive because we've got a massive drug problem in this country and the war on drugs and the war on terror but really in my mind you know a bit of a conspiracy theorist theorists here not really and the European Union we have something known as negative rates now if you're not familiar with what that means when it banks banks have a reserve ratio and when they have more money than that they can park that money at the central bank and they earn money from that interest so you know instead of hoarding cash and maybe getting robbed you simply do that with ones and zeros and you earn a little bit of money but now with negative rates you're actually paying for that investment we found a great article about that as financial times but we've reloaded it so many times that wants us to pay for it now doesn't affect you as a depositor yet so far the banks are just eating the cost and it's a small amount but if it keeps up someday it is gonna affect the positives and if all of a sudden I told you tomorrow hey you know that money that you have in the bank you have to pay to keep that money in the bank what would you do there's gonna be a run on the bank he's gonna be running the bank but how do you stop that well Tim Cook has the answer keep it with Apple well I think that pays from your bank account right yeah yeah so and it really it really is crazy but I mean I would love to hear from people in the European Union about what you've heard about that now theoretically the negative rates don't affect consumers yet but it will it absolutely will because consumers I mean the banks that the consumers user are looking to do crazy stuff like physically securely store large piles of cash because that will be affected by the negative interest rate which seems completely insane but I think that there's other interesting stuff that's happening as a result of that like for example Swiss rail operators are starting to sell bitcoins at ticket machines now as a result of that which is why we mentioned it yeah so get rid of cash is this core of course something that's known as a capital control and Shawn has been on this capital control thing for years now especially lately they're trying to stop Chinese money from leaving the country because they have a big problem with that and one of the things that always benefits when they introduce new capital controls is Bitcoin so in here we have another story and if you've been monitoring the price of Bitcoin it's gone up quite a bit in the past week yeah over like $700 it's at yeah it's over 700 or was looks like it's gone back down a little bit now but yeah the high 707 so alternative currencies benefit when these kinds of crazy financial things happen and you know you threaten the freedom of one kind of money and you move to another kind of money so it's driving big Collingwood a negative interest rates I don't think anybody intended for that to happen but it is sort of kind of happenings really it's it's really interesting we want to this is something that we will follow a lot in the future Bitcoin and currencies and and how the sort of the world currency market is sort of driving us because technology because of the blockchain and because of things like Bitcoin technology has the option to be subversive or liberating depending on how it's used and how it's implemented in what other policies are going on at the same time so it's gonna be really interesting to see how that shakes out are you implying that a government program had unintended consequences that's everything we don't really have another Segway if we don't really have a good Segway or whatever worry what topic could you segue into this one on we we don't know Facebook apparently lets advertisers exclude users by race which is interesting on so many levels the details now of course you we don't want to call this racial profiling please King it because that would be illegal clearly clearly Facebook has a name for this ethnic affinities that sounds good doesn't it let's talk about our ethnic affinities let's go around the room let's pass around the Talking Stick and talk about our ethnic affinities but they have the screenshots here and I will show you when you're buying ads you can actually choose you know things here likely to move buying a house all these things that they've tracked about their users with all their data mining and while you're at it pick the races you want to show it to African American Asian American it's bet I want to know if these graphics from this is actually something that was something that Facebook came up with I think this is probably just but I just and how did they bring that up in a meeting like how like they got the developers together they got the developers in a room and it was like okay we need to add racial profiling to the website but the middle managers can't use that terminology at all I mean it we played a lot so I mean how did that how did that meeting come down it's like we need to group users according to their genetic history and diversity and imagine like you know like the h-1b programmers and like the language barrier yeah a little bit of a language barrier they're like what I don't quite fall and of course all these people are the things that is like okay let's go over it again ethnic affinities so it's an advertiser I can say I'm like let's say that I was a rice cooker manufacturer I could I could just go on my ethnic affinity control panel and only advertise to a certain race that doesn't this is just I can't I can't even believe this is a thing I can't even believe this is a thing and in America we have it's called Jim Crow laws which are laws designed to prevent this kind of discrimination but it's sort of the opposite you can't have an advertisement that says you know no black people or no Asian people or whatever that would be against the law but in this case the advertisers are not advertising directly to the people they're targeting it's like as if you have a newspaper that would display a different ad depending on what your ethnicity is which apparently is a loophole but I think it's probably against the spirit of the law at least here in America well and also it's funny that the example used here and apparently with the way they found out about this is housing because we have these crazy equal housing laws and you can't even I mean sometimes you can't turn down people for valid reasons if they are one of these protected classes so for Facebook to do this particular thing is really really really amazing it seems a little crazy this is just I'm feeling we'll be hearing more about this story yeah you know what I don't think we'll see any more the story is on the trending Facebook I might suppress it I think they buy speaking of companies behaving badly with customers beta 18 fees in the news again by getting rich by spying on customers and selling the data to the government this is actually not news to us we've known about this for like ten years zero surprising everybody always talks about this this is a recent article from October 27 but I mean let's face it this is actually nothing new and in fact not only is it nothing new the FCC also passed rules say hey we need to protect customers from you know from this this is not going to matter because there's already stuff in law to protect ISPs from this there's this helping versus 18t case where 18th he was caught with their hand in the till previously and they were given retroactive immunity because there was a some FISA Court rulings and it was basically fine so not only did they do that they actually do it sort of boldly last year I talked a little bit about AT&T charging you $30 extras for enhanced privacy meaning they don't spy on you on your internet connection and most people didn't really even notice this most people are not even really aware that this is happening these FCC changes are designed to make make it to where people have to explicitly opt-in to do this but it doesn't really address the fact that a company like AT&T can charge you exorbitant Lee for for not spying on you I mean $29 a month is nuts and also you know what little outrage there was when that retroactive immunity came down was probably explained away in terms of no no no it's okay we're gonna stop them it's gonna be the last time we're gonna fix it nobody needs to go to jail it's gonna be okay and here we are the exact same thing but of course you know they're selling the data to the very people who are making the laws so maybe a conflict of interests yeah this is using the data for government purposes using the data for commercial purposes using the data any way that they can so because they have the data the temptation to use the data or exploit the data commercially oh and you can better believe but if eighteenth he ever has any financial problems and it's like oh gosh you know judge we're we're in trouble we need to you know we really need to tap into this data set that we have the Bankruptcy Court is absolutely gonna let them commercialize that accent where they have it previously you can favor grieve not oh yeah you protect the bondholders at any cost and of course the the project hemisphere that was the other big story about ATT that was the government directly buying data and for you know law enforcement and spying purposes which is just crazy you know I but not only are they spying on us they're farming it out they're not even doing themselves well that's how you do an end run around the Constitution it's like people can be secure in their persons papers but if eighteenth he's got your data an eighteen t gives you up wow that's not unconstitutional at all absolutely fine if you sign a service agreement that says we can steal it hey what's gonna stop us that's really bad sorry American we should have little flags the only other thing that we had which is an amazing piece of technologies as Russia has unveiled the Satan to missile couldn't even make up that name this is a nuclear missile that will destroy an area the size of France or Texas yeah and for those of you who aren't Americans Texas is a really big state it's the size of France hahaha so this is a 10-ton missile I mean think about the size of that and not only is it big but it has some new technology now this is all of course from the Russian propaganda machine reported by the fear porn American press so maybe it's not as bad as it could be but even if it were half is bad the other feature is it moves in an erratic pattern so that existing missile shield technology isn't effective against it oh this says a hundred tons a hundred times so the missile will have all the warhead oh yeah the word warhead is ten times yeah it was ten tons of nuclear material okay okay yeah okay yeah a hundred ton payload or no a hundred ton whatever a ten ton payload tent on nuclear payload which is impressive you know that's a that's a lot of a lot of nuclear material I wonder how many of those they're gonna make and with a range of eleven thousand miles that would almost reach Texas yeah yeah well you can launch it from a ship you know a missile sub they'll definitely reach Texas on international waters that's it's a very comforting thing as we go into one of the weirdest presidential elections that we've ever had and some somewhat warmongering political candidates might get in power so what you're saying is Putin has this weapon and Hillary's bitching about her email well that's another story you know we didn't cover that but the quote-unquote Ukrainians oh yeah have creamy and they've retaliated they've hacked Putin's aides email how the poor Ukrainians manua every time it's like that friend where it's friends with both the husband and the wife and every time they get in a fight that person is directed that's at a Ukraine it's a Ukraine and Syria with Iran oh yeah that that common friend is shooting down planes all kinds of really bad stuff yeah we don't that's probably it's just we've gone off the rails this is listen this is their inaugural episode of the news there's there's a bunch more news we could cover there's a lot of Linux news a lot more Linux news other than the copy-on-write thing Fedora 25 is basically in final beta at this point it's really good it's really stable we've got a really amazing forum post that was done by edon on the forum about the general state of Linux news that's something I think I'm gonna cover we're basically just spooling up this level one thing so there's a ton of work to do thanks for sticking with us this long I'll Pugh stick with us for the future we're signing off for the news for now should see a lot of content from us soon but we got to get all our ducks in a row for the website and hosting the web server and get the design finalized there's a new design and hopefully you like it and we've been busy hopefully do this once a week yeah yeah so the idea is we'll do this once a week let us know what your feedback is that if you hated part of it tell us about it we'll probably change out the stream computer because a lot of the equipment that we're using right now is basically borrowed so actually there's a little insider note this is the third take but if the other ones crashed at the AT&T story it's 18 t yeah all right we'll see you guys later Selah form yeah\n"