The WAN Show - PS4 slightly LESS underpowered, Amazon Drones are REAL! - Dec 4, 2015
I Play Games with My Single Graphics Card and I'm Loving It
I've been playing games on my single graphics card, and I have to say, it's been a blast. Even intense games don't require more than one 980, which is surprising considering how powerful modern GPUs are. I haven't run my 980 since I upgraded to an GTX 260, but that was the last time I needed multiple graphics cards for smooth gameplay. Nowadays, single GPU solutions can handle even the most demanding games with ease.
I'm not against NVIDIA or AMD, it's just that I've found a single graphics card that meets all my needs. I'd love to get my hands on some unused 980s from people who are upgrading and give them new life in my gaming rig. Speaking of which, I'm stoked about the upcoming VR gaming experience with my friends at CCP. We'll be playing games like Valkyrie and Gunjack, and I've heard great things about these titles. Valkyrie is a disc-throwing game where players can stand on platforms and throw discs at each other while blocking with shields. It sounds like a ton of fun, and I'm excited to try it out.
I've also been enjoying CCP's other games, like Gunjack, which offers fast-paced action and thrilling gameplay. And, for some reason, I found a demo of another game that involves slowly walking up a mountain while looking at birds. Yes, you read that right – looking at birds! I'm not sure why this game is a thing, but it's definitely unique. There are people out there who would enjoy this kind of gameplay experience, and I respect that.
The Super Fun Show
The final part of our show was a bit of a disaster, to be honest. We thought we had our production schedule locked down for Awesome Stuff Week on YouTube, but things didn't go as planned. We ended up releasing an early version of our video, which wasn't quite ready for prime time. To make matters worse, we released it at the same time as a Vessel timed release, which caused some confusion among our audience.
We're still working out the kinks in our production schedule, and it's clear that we need to do better if we want to deliver high-quality content on time. Despite the setbacks, I'm proud of what we've accomplished so far, and I'm excited to see where our show will go from here. If you haven't checked out our previous episodes, I highly recommend doing so.
Zen Motherboards: A Game-Changer for PC Gamers
In other news, rumors are circulating about a new line of motherboards from Zen that could revolutionize the way we build PCs. These boards allegedly feature DDR4 memory and will be compatible with both CPUs and APUs, making them an attractive option for enthusiasts and builders alike. I've linked to more information on our show notes page, where you can learn more about these exciting developments.
The Medieval Weapons Fencing Video
If you're looking for some inspiration for your next gaming session, check out this medieval weapons fencing video from a channel with over 25,000 subscribers. The video is set to the background music of a medieval jousting tournament and features some impressive sword fighting skills. I'm not sure what's more surprising – the skill level of the fencers or the lack of alarms in the video! Despite its flaws, this video is definitely worth watching if you're looking for something different.
The After Party
And finally, it's time for me to wrap up this episode and head home. I'm feeling a bit worn out from our production session, but it was worth it in the end. If you're still with me, thanks for tuning in! Don't forget to subscribe to our channel and share it with your friends if you haven't already. We can't figure out why more people aren't watching these videos, so we appreciate any help we can get. Until next time, same bat channel, bye!
"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello hey welcome to the wan show guys we are a little late we know we're right do they even i was talking in the twitch chat we're right we're ripe we are now a top shelf wine do they even want to hear why at this point is it is it just is it are they just tired of my excuses i don't think we should bother anymore because like is it actually really any different how about just a short summary sure we don't touch the computer from week to week and yet it doesn't work when we sit back down in front of it capture cards are a giant steaming pile of garbage basically all of them as far as i can tell and uh what was the other what was the other other bit this week uh well yeah uh we okay okay i had to give back the xlr audio interface that i had borrowed for the last couple of weeks to find out if that would work with our external compressor and and so i had to give that back so i had to reconfigure that but i knew that was coming that part was actually fine it was it the part that really bothers me is the part where i literally do not touch this entire corner of the building for a week and i come back and it doesn't work the camera does get taken down every week um yeah but that's not the issue right but you are unplugging things it's not like it was just running for the whole week i didn't but so there's that matter and actually the camera did not get unplugged this week it wasn't here what do you mean it wasn't here you said the camera wasn't you told me it wasn't set up what camera well no it was sitting here just like it didn't have a lens on it yeah but a lens does not affect the connection between the sdi cable and the converter and the capture like i don't understand i i feel like we need to just simplify things like uh i used to do a lot of wii u streams using avermedia cards which is like a video capture off of something yeah and never had a single problem with any of those streams yep and yet here we are with favor media cards and other cards we're trying to use black magic ones we still have them in the computer which is probably causing yeah no i don't think that's causing the problem today sure that was that was definitely part of the issue that was definitely part of the issue but nothing to do with the fact that our live gamer portable um all of a sudden needs a bunch of audio delay anyway so let's get right into what topics we have today one of them uh what we said one of them didn't we no we didn't even get to one of them no all right that's classic go for it amazon drone service is there's no other notes other than that so there's probably some information about the amazon drone service more details also radeon fury x2 is on the way whoo something we kind of knew uh just cause three runs light garbage on the consoles which we probably could have guessed yeah even if we didn't already know and vtech basically just i mean not because they not because they had any kind of a choice in the matter but they admit that their tablet was recording personal data and that they were storing it and this was a toy tablet right yes so without going super deep into the topic is it worse because it's for kids yes yes it is way worse it is many many many times worse because they are minors i had to ask him because he's a parent i already had that opinion but his matters more i didn't think i was that obvious i think it's pretty obvious that it matters more if it's no you called me a parent so all right guys so uh oh everyone's uh everyone's all everyone's all upset about my about my fantastic dad jokes i liked it i was good especially because i was saying that i had to ask that because you were a dad so the timing was good and the quality was haters gonna hate yo all right so this is this is about the least expected use of jeremy clarkson's talent yeah i could have possibly seen coming over over there at amazon but um yeah muted do you want it to be muted yeah yeah yeah muted is fine because basically they just have him explain that junior here needs some cleats or something and then whatever if only there were some way that amazon could send it to you i wonder how much puma paid for this product yeah because he says the name of the specifically literally like it felt like six times in the video so this is cool so this is a vtol vtol drone which means vertical takeoff and landing actual flight footage not simulated apparently and then what it does is because you can see it's kind of got a weird shape to it here it actually converts to a huge it converts to a forward flight craft what the crap just like that so it has a range of i think they were figuring something to the tune of around 18 miles it uses sensors to sense things you know flight data like speed and whatever that that looks kind of simulated and then basically it finds a suitable landing point delivery zone and i think there's actually like a little like like print out tag you put in your yard that it goes and finds then they actually show it landing right on it now i was one of those people who was in the camp of this is pure this is pure uh april fool's joke they are messing around with us um i i was of the mindset that they were just messing with us when they originally announced that they would deliver packages by drone but it looks like they are actually serious about this uh they have done a fair bit of r d presumably uh based on what they're saying in the video about you know how the drones have sensors to go around you know hot air balloons or whatever else so they're working on it and they they seem to be like for real about making this happen apparently it is designed to safely get packages to customers in 30 minutes or less making it actually faster for a small item mr clarkson works in a little joke about how the dog who chewed up the shoe is now getting a chew toy along with the new shoes um so as long as they're small lightweight items in under 30 minutes there is no launch date the drone in the video can fly for 15 miles 15 miles sorry i said 18 miles i think my bad 50 miles um so that that means that not everyone's really gonna be able to get this and i wonder how widespread this is actually gonna be considering the amazon fresh campaign is that still only in seattle amazon fresh i know i thought they were in new york too they might be i'm not sure i haven't looked this up i was just thinking about that right now um amazon seems to do things but then not necessarily spread them out actually all that well yeah amazon fresh subsidiary company in seattle washington it revived the business model of ordering groceries online baby boppity bippity boppity product lines uh selected parts of center city philadelphia pennsylvania new york city on october 17th 2014. so yeah san francisco san diego still kind of taking some time to spread out yes doing okay though yeah we're obviously this is not something where it's like yes this is driving 18 of our annual revenue uh yeah nothing nothing like that but um and there's still problems just like there was last time where putting prime air into service well this is a quote putting primary into service will take some time but we will deploy when we have the regulatory support needed to realize our vision that's huge yeah it's going to take a while and i mean this doesn't address a lot of the other issues as well so the drones that the drone they showed off there apparently flies at about 400 feet so for the um for the metric people it's about 130 meters uh which yeah it's not very high no actually so if if the whole thing that people are joking about online and you know if someone jokes about it hunting the drones yeah if if a thousand people joke about it online one person's gonna do it one will do it and that's kind of all it's gonna take is for one person to shoot like a net gun at a drone have it come down peg some kid in the head kill them and then i was just gonna say the first one that falls is gonna be really interesting yep can amazon just pay its way out of this you know like here's six million dollars sorry your kid's dead or whatever like i don't know will they will they keep the program going at that point how important is it for people to get things in 30 minutes currently about airplanes like real regulatory maintenance issues where they're they're repairing the planes out of the states because there's lower uh i don't know what the right word for it is uh you don't have to be as careful when you're doing maintenance when you do it outside of the states so seriously airplane people like airlines yes regulations that's what i was looking for um there's lower amounts of regulations looser regulations for repairing airplanes so they're doing it outside of the states uh they're already sketchy about airplanes think about drones are they gonna be doing maintenance checks on these things like every trip or every couple trips i doubt it yeah unless amazon has like robots that are going to do that but then i don't know uh it's a really cool idea people are saying that the the limit for drones is uh 400 feet and that's why yeah but that's not really the point the point is that people will be bringing them down yes so yeah i mean if the u.s changes the regulations and allows amazon to fly them higher then that's that opens up a whole other can of worms because someone in the chat said so i guess we're all wondering if amazon prime air is gonna take off um um so there was one other comment that i wanted to make about it uh right yeah one of the first one of the top comments on the on the video was from someone saying like oh you know the the couriers must be must be really worried about this to which i would reply i really don't think so amazon even now is positioning this and and intelligently so is positioning this as a as a premium service yeah so this is not like you need to have a market like if you saw in the video you need to have a little like drop the package here thing in your yard i don't know how many people are gonna actually do that well no i think you just you just like print it when you place your order and you check it there oh yeah i don't think it looked like it was down in the grass i don't think it's permanent it looks i don't know in the video okay that maybe they like did a heavy one so that it wouldn't like get blown away and stuff probably looked better yeah you had another concern it ends up in your neighbor's yard they're like nope my property now um what yeah what happens when it screws up a delivery yeah so so okay there's a lot of concerns okay so a it's expensive b this is going to be for lightweight items only small orders only i'm pretty sure they were doing cleats yeah i'm pretty sure that ups is not worried at this point about you know all the people ordering like half the i'm just trying to think what percentage of the stuff we order off of amazon would fit in a little drone like that us not much yeah not not much it's like if you order a computer case i don't think there's going to be the like the jumbo drum with that set prefer the like books and stuff if you can carry cleats you might be able to carry a book or two and zeppelin technology is coming back that's awesome zeppelins are coming back my friend so if they can get the zeppelin drone going as long as they don't make them like a crane lower out of it and drop your package off like crane lowers out and then it just like tilts up and just slides off yeah i mean okay as long as they don't make the zeppelins out of hydrogen or lead then we're in really good shape yeah there you go all right uh let's just see if there's anything else to really say about it probably probably not we've talked about this thing like three times almost nothing's changed except there's a video now well the smart this the video changes a lot for me because seeing seeing such an elegant design for a uh vtol plane drone the drone itself is super cool makes a big difference to me because when they originally did the april fool's joke they were using a quadcopter drone or a six copter drone if i recall correctly and that's like some of the stuff out of china right where we've seen like you know early attempts to it's all like these six copter like just total like disaster over long distances designs whereas yeah if you can go all plane all plane uh you know forward flying on it then it might actually work very very cool i want to know what prevents people from capturing them when they land in their yard like i'm sure they have sensors cameras whatever yeah i'm i'm fairly sure that i could order something to anyone's address for one thing i could put on a ski mask or whatever and like capture the drone when it lands put it in a lead box and you know take it away to i don't know like i'm sure i'm someone's if something is valuable someone will come up with a way to steal it yeah period someone will probably get one yeah or it'll land and drop off its thing and then not really be able to leave like i don't know something's going to happen and i guess it's funny people are worried about like automation and rightfully so but uh i mean that creates a new job right the guy whose job it is to get in his car and drive to drive to the customer's house be like hey yeah sorry the drone's in the backyard can i just here's a here's a gift card yeah i'm gonna go get that thanks for that um so that was posted on the forum by uh pixel density thank you for that uh next article today posted by pc beyond on the forum youtube seeks to compete with netflix original article here is from arstechnica.co.uk and i think youtube's intentions of you know getting movie deals and tv show deals um and wanting more more professionally made premium content is not exactly new but what is new is that there's some more details about them being perhaps a little bit more serious about it than last time around so the wall street journal reported that youtube is looking to bolster youtube red specifically with tv shows and movies because youtube premium or whatever they called it before you could run movies on youtube before that's not new and you've been able to watch like ufc fights but so but but that was pay-per-view and rentals yeah whereas this would be like basically a direct shot across the bow of netflix by saying okay no we want to have a monthly subscription that also includes tv shows and movies and if they pull this off i mean youtube red effectively becomes your spotify your netflix and your ad free youtube like the ads ad free youtube for 10 bucks a month is already a compelling enough value that i'm probably gonna do it and then you get music and you make it movies as well and you might get movies and tv shows and tv shows and tv shows i mean ad-free ad-free youtube from a purely i need my kids to shut up for half an hour while i get a little bit more sleep in the morning is already enough for me to spend the ten dollars a month on it because let me tell you a one-year-old is super interested in you know a is for apple ah apple and then when some ad for like biore skin cream comes on she starts she starts mashing at it she starts throwing it she starts making noise i'm like no i'm still sleeping it is for apple please and snoozing in the morning when you get woken up every literally every three and a half minutes when the ad comes on and you know it's amazing how much the way that youtube has monetized kids content has changed in the last two years because when my son was one and i wanted to sleep in in the morning like kidstv123 had almost no ads on it like one out of every 30 videos that played was gonna be monetized now it's like every single one that's a huge percentage of youtube at this point yep yeah but i just i thought that the you know kids advertising kids advertising laws were a little complicated which isn't to yeah which is then again i guess you know tv does it too yeah tv does it too yeah but there's like rules depending on the country like in canada this isn't just no idea about any of this yeah in canada a commercial can't start with hey kids do you want to buy the new wild wacky amazing adventure pack it has to be like hey parents do you want to buy for your kids the wild whack the amazing action pack look at how amazing this thing is so it has it's the voice that that it's speaking it has to address a different audience um but i guess that leads us that actually leads us pretty well into this post by z mule on the forum the original article here is kit guru and v-tech v-tec nailed sun oh so if you you guys you guys know vtech like i only really know them from like clear plastic uh cordless you know phones yeah yeah yeah yeah back when we had a landline yeah a lot of people have those as landlines at least at least here anyway like i'm pretty sure like future shop and the source you walked in you wanted a cordless phone you walked in you wanted and you wanted a relatively cheap one 900 megahertz yeah 2.4 gigahertz i remember how they wrote the v like there's tons of these yeah so so basically they admit their toy hack affected 6.4 million children this is this is great their statement about it so i'll give you a bit more details after but regrettably our database was not as secure as it should have been so in a nutshell on the 14th of november its learning lodge app store was broken into giving a hacker access to the customer database and kid connect services so what's the worst thing about this is that servers yeah um so this hack actually allowed them to get access not only to just like uh you know uh login and login and password but they actually were able to figure out the exact uh the exact accounts that they were tied to giving them access to way more personal information than just that and they had a bunch of other stuff in their data in their in their system including the hackers were able to access more than 190 gigs of photos and audio logs off of these devices that can then be traced back to usernames and account details which makes the security threat much more worrisome especially considering this is a child friendly marketed device the into tab max our fastest tablet featuring v6 vtv selected android apps and games that's really sketchy i'm not a huge fan of it also um compromised other sites as well one of them i can't even really say lumi bo x revs i don't know probably said that super wrong v smile link dot com sleepy bear lullaby time which is the greatest name for a website ever yeah i kind of wanna buy that site it reminds me of channel super fun sleepybear lullaby time.com so great anyways so these are all vtech uh owned entities yeah so i guess uh i guess i don't know what is there to really say by the way is emil posted this on the forum thanks for that what is there to really say other than you know lock up your lock up your kids and keep them away from all the internet hijo hijo what let's hide your kids hide your kids lock up people let's lock up your daughters that's the oh yeah i thought you're going for internet meme no no no no no hide your wife yeah because they hacking everybody out here yeah nothing nothing safe hey not really i think i own v-tech stuff nothing nothing that collects any personal information it's like i don't because the only thing i ever knew that they made were like relatively cheap phones that's the only reason why i don't know no i'm pretty sure they make lots of kids stuff because i have like this uh i have like this goofy um it's got like a keyboard on it and it's got like just kind of games like fill in the letter blank okay and there's like there's like a happy bear that asks you to fill in the letter create a letter bridge i love that website name um sleepy bear lullaby time this is kind of a big deal posted by commissions i don't know how to pronounce that but uh on the forum so this is from geek.com sony unlocks the playstation 4's seventh processing core for developers so in a nutshell this is something microsoft already did a little while back in order to get a little more competitive with the playstation 4 is the the amd custom processor that they're actually both using although different slightly slightly different versions of it but the actual cpu cores themselves they're both using an eight core apu of sorts and uh so the xbone was reserving two of its cores for things like uh connect safe for example um so microsoft kind of went oh shoot we're kind of losing the performance more because microsoft went with a slightly slower tuned version so they unlocked a seventh core which means that in games that need to leverage that extra horsepower you can't access um some background processes such as menus and and connect say are sorry excuse me menus uh such as connect which is good which is which is which is fine because if the game wasn't gonna leverage connect at all anyway then it can use the processing power that would have been locked and unused yes um and with you know if you're making you know happy dance party time x or whatever game if you fair sleepy time yeah then you you frankly don't need the seven cores anyway so that that seems like a pretty good compromise to me so place uh so sony has now i think we're yeah so this was back in january that microsoft did it so almost a year later they have now done the same thing allowing the playstation 4 to basically get as close to its potential maximum as it can which is going to be brutal for xbox one because they already did this and like we're up still losing to playstation so now playstation will be even more ahead yeah with i guess the um the the the rain this this the discussion point here because that news in and of itself is not actually terribly exciting the consoles this generation are underpowered yeah whoop deeper can do here's what i want to know and i want to hear from you guys we're going to straw pull this up in here nice i'm excited i like straw polls if you think back to microsoft's xbox one launch event their whole thing the server thing is that what you're talking about no i'm not going to talk about that that's that's a whole other ball of wax that drives me insane that might not that might just never see the light of day i don't think so um so did we're gonna use cloud servers to render things for your thing and it's gonna make it easier and better and faster and that'll never happen all right uh hold on i'm just going to create i'm going to create the uh it's like skiing in world of warcraft how many times have they said they were going to put skiing in the game nope have they yeah it was on the ball is on the back of the box for wrath of lich king excellent all right well at any rate there's the straw poll um random facts that don't matter there you go you did not know that so if you think back to the you guys i didn't even ask the question i haven't clarified yet well keep the tab open so you can fix it in case you change your mind so if you think back to the xbox one launch event microsoft's whole spiel was that the xbox one is not a game console it is like your family living room hub it is your entertainment hub it is your you watch tv on it you you know wave at it and you're like hey xbox wow wake up and let's play some games oh well not just games maybe we're gonna look at our photos or access our skydrive or yeah i guess they still called it skydrive at that point i don't know anyway the point is it was supposed to be more than just a game console a game machine but not a pc it wasn't a pc make it an entertainment system they didn't know what the hell it was so did they learn their lesson is that what we're figuring out here now that microsoft and sony have both kind of gone oh people don't really care other than like their netflix app they don't really care about doing anything on this other than playing video games i don't think they have it turns out a game console is just a console or are they gonna come back with the xbox two and the playstation five and are they gonna be like if they call it the two i'm gonna i'm gonna like crap a brick okay if they call it the xbox that would be so horrible um so are they gonna come back with that and go yeah we added way more power this time for way better gaming and also we cordoned off a bit of it again for like we're going to still try and do that other stuff again so i want to know i want to know from you guys so let's let's head over to my screen let's have a look at straw poll results we've got a whopping 58 of you most of whom didn't even wait for me to explain the question saying no they did not learn their lesson a 31 of you are voting for turnip the way you should throwing away your votes i love the timing of our whole vote for turnip thing and then donald trump running for president every time i wear that shirt every time i wear that shirt people are like ah it's a donald trump joke because you might as well just vote for a turnip and it kind of looks like um and then 11 of you go yes they're gonna treat a game console like a game console next time i don't think so what do you okay well i was about to ask what you think i think that's the way to interrupt me why anyways i don't think that they have uh reasons for why i don't think that they have are largely based in the past i know things have changed but still um this was the first time that they've made money by selling their console so i feel like that much i know but still before they were losing now they're making some that's actually a pretty significant difference when you're selling that much volume so you're saying we're still going to get underpowered consoles because they got used to the idea of making money selling the console yes i get it before it was like accessories and whatever and we'll make it it'll be awesome now it's like experience and we want to make more money because it's more premium or not really and 160 accessories yeah yeah that too elite controller yeah um so i don't really think so and this honestly should have been in there from the start even if it was um still aimed to not be it as gamey of a game console as it is right um because why not yeah why force the developer yeah so i don't think that actually has anything to do about them learning that it should be just a game console i think that has them has more to do with that should have just been a thing why lock it off that's just stupid i will explain why and actually you know what because they're trying to force people to use the thing i was gonna say no it's deeper than that okay i was going to say that i was going to disagree with you i was going to say that i think they learned their lesson and i think they're going to come back focused on gaming and gamers but i actually realized as you were talking that i'm with you but for a slightly different reason okay because i think they are still going to try to force the game developers to use the gimmick and they're still going to try and create the gimmick because at the end of the day 900p versus 720p is something that the pc audience cares about but that the console audience is frankly many of them not that interested in whereas when you create a marketing video look at how many we so fun look at how many wiis nintendo sold from showing people waggling sticks around honestly though that was legitimately fun it was and the connect isn't but that's what the marketing that's that's the marketing engine that's why they're going to keep forcing game they're going to come up with a gimmick yeah yeah and they're going to force game devs to use the gimmick and they're going to they're going to they're going to punish game devs who don't use the gimmick and they're going to do it again and again and again because that's visually interesting whereas 300 fps at 4k well actually 4k they might be able to sell but but but not for a long time because 4k tvs are only now just barely approaching affordability okay first off i am a nintendo fan boy so oh just gonna get that like fairly across the board we know uh even though they're despicable in so many ways they're pretty bad but it's okay it's okay it's fine zelda's coming out yoshi's adorable i have the woolly one the little toy because i bought yoshi's woolly world which is just the best game it's so much fun if you complete a level with 100 you get another yoshi and he comes in like you can get like a kaoioshi or like a forest yoshi and they're hilarious and they're super cute anyways moving forward with the wii when they make some crazy gimmick thing you can just ignore it the developer can just ignore it with the gamepad thing you don't have to use it unless the developers nintendo and they're making twilight princess and then they're gonna do some stupid crap yeah sure but i had to buy a classic controller just to play that stupid game yes yes carry on though but they can they don't force people to use their gimmicky things like that you can just turn the controller sideways turning into a more retro style controller use none of the motions the least ergonomic retro controller ever pretty rough but still use none of the motion stuff and the condom on the end you don't have to you can take that off you can go wrong but that's not safe it's that's true bareback is not the kind of we use that we fair though that's the only way i use my controllers because you dressed yourself not to throw them at your tv i mean everybody okay this is okay sorry do you still have your train of thought will you be able to come back to it because i'm sorry go for it okay okay so i was sitting at work okay i was at my desk um so i was working at ncix back when the wii came out so i was sitting at my desk and i i had gotten the wii for myself for christmas for my family but it was for me so i'd gotten the wee for myself for christmas and i my like uh my my in-laws and my now wife then girlfriend and i had spent like the entire holiday season bowling and like playing tennis with each other and that's great so i read i start reading the articles about people breaking their tvs flinging remotes and i'm at i'm at my my in-laws house and i'm talking to my now girl then girlfriend now wife i don't now have a girlfriend um and i'm like what kind of flipping idiot oh no throws the wemo at the tv so she kind of goes ashen right and like she's just like she kind of changes the subject like meanwhile i want to talk about this forever i'm like you got to be freaking kidding me like if you're that sweaty take it take a break okay stop flinging your arms around just take a breather okay the wii even interrupts you every like 20 minutes or whatever you go outside it's like yeah hey you know everyone just like stop playing wii sports for 10 minutes okay so later on i'm talking to her and she's like so yeah my dad like threw the wemo today he was in the room when i'm talking about this she's like yeah my dad threw the wiimote at the tv today he almost broke it and i was just like what that is so brutal i i thought you were talking about the like gel sleeve no they didn't exist yet oh this was in the early days i'm like oh gee yeah i know no i know i actually that was what i was talking about yeah that was what i was talking about when i talked about the wii condom but i got one i was super lucky you remember how the stock was super bad yeah you couldn't find them anywhere i jumped out twice i didn't camp out at all i walked into my local best buy and like some employee that didn't know that they were back stocked or whatever just put one on the shelf and i was like uh okay picked it up and bought it the person that till was like what say yup cool just walked out and got one i think it was probably someone else's order so after i realized that i felt kind of bad but i was like it's on the shelf so i felt kind of bad all the way to the bank oh well it was kind of expensive at the time well yeah what was it like four hundred dollars i don't remember but i remember like i had saved up for for it for a bit and i think my mom like helped contribute because she wanted the the fitness that be packed i ended up with four of them before christmas yeah well my wife my wife and i camped twice okay and so my boss the owner of ncix needed one so that got a hefty markup yeah um my other boss uh who was actually he actually visited our studio the other day he's like he i would consider him a friend not just like a former boss um so my other boss got one he got a less hefty but definitely you know yeah well they're going for this much on ebay so you know relatively close to that yeah yeah um so i actually made so much selling a couple of them that mine were effectively like a couple hundred bucks for two there you go and i bought some emotes so uh so yeah that worked out pretty well for me with that said i don't have the kind of time to do stuff like that although i have exciting news when are you seeing star wars uh i'm waiting i want to go with brandon because he's good to talk to movies about afterwards and stuff so i don't actually have a ticket yet because he doesn't have a ticket yet so i this is a major this is a big shout out there's a huge massive like but you have opening day tickets well not quite okay but this is a massive shout out to anthony over at ncix who thanks to i'm not gonna say how he got them but it's something to do with like a purchase that he made recently and like an owner's club website that probably no one will ever visit ever there's a special non-public screening at 9 00 a.m on the saturday wow 9 a.m the day after it launches so he has two tickets and he was kind of shopping them around like and jack was like yeah i'm going with you know someone else and blah blah and like and he and and i was like and then he was like oh well i don't know linus do you want to come do you have tickets yet i'm like actually no because i have children and so going to see like a late night screening is not always the easiest thing for me and stuff like that so i was i was planning i was literally planning to spend three weeks with my eyes closed and my fingers in my ears until i was going to be able to see it nope i'm seeing it 9am so so anthony and i have a master plan to show up at like 7 30. it's first come first served so we have a master plan to show up at like 7 30 in the morning uh at the theater and it's going to be freaking awesome and i'm gonna see it on time pretty much for the first come first serve and you're showing up at 7 30 for nine amperes but remember this is not a public screening probably no one knows about it there wasn't even an email newsletter nothing if you happen to sign into like the owner's portal wow that's unlikely yeah so i'm expecting to be sitting like dead theater center wow for star wars the day after launch i'm super super excited i'm assuming brandon is going to be waiting a little while because i think he wants really good seats too yeah so i'm probably gonna be waiting a while all i can say is it better not disappoint because the last movie that i like freaked out and saw right away was the hobbit part one have you heard about the darth jar jar binks i have i love it it's actually pretty good i actually love it if you haven't seen the conspiracy theory that's pretty solid that jar jar is actually the sith master orchestrating everything behind the scenes uh check it out it was a great post on reddit it's really good it's really good there's like it's it goes all kind of like well hold on yeah yeah what if jar jar was all like like drunken kung fu master kind of thing like when he's like jumping around a missile clumsy boom knocking out drawing with drains and killing them all over the place what if it's all an act and then he's like inexplicably in the second movie he's like a member of the senate yeah or something like this what yeah yeah it's interesting it actually like you must have been using mind control i still don't that's a huge part of it that's a huge part of it yeah and they have clips where he's like doing the hand wavy thing all the time super interesting i don't know it's it's ridiculous and it's yeah but it's fun and it makes you not hate so much those series of movies if you go back and i i haven't done it yet but if you rewatch with that in mind i plan to i'm going to re-read the whole spiel because it's like a couple pages long yeah i'm gonna reread the whole spiel i'm gonna watch phantom menace again thinking jar jar is a mastermind and trying to mind control and pretend that he's crappy when he's not yeah he got he got kicked out of the underground city we know this he caused all kinds of problems stupid viewer we assumed that you know he knocked over the you know prince's daffodil plant or whatever but you know daffodils would be pretty valuable underwater oh yeah wow would probably be a rare commodity probably imported so so you know was george lucas planning and this is the this is the theory was george lucas planning uh a luke i am your father moment for the end of attack of the clones no it was me the whole time that never happened because he bailed um and obviously not but yeah it's fun anyway it's it's really fun yeah speaking of things that are fun scott our good buddy over at amd and not tech reports i didn't see that one coming did not see that one coming is no longer is no longer going to be cards on time now maybe this is a good thing no he's not in that role oh yeah sorry um so so i i actually ugh i've spoken on the phone with scott since the announcement and i don't know how much of what was said was public knowledge versus what wasn't so i will give a summary of what's in in his blog post and and not much more but i'm gonna i'm gonna be connecting with him uh at ces and i'll probably talk in some more depth but um just for those of you who don't know i respect scott a lot he's super smart he's been doing this whole tech journalism thing he's just such a respectable guy he's been doing this for over 15 years and you know what we actually like we have uh uh we have a partnership with tech report on a couple things like we've worked together on a couple things in the past um and this just he kind of like i i sent him a tweet that was like you know we we can't bleep things on lan shows so i'm not going to use the exact words that i did but it was just basically like what the and you can kind of fill in the blanks for yourself yeah like seriously um and he kind of sends back the best she's like yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry dude i super meant to tell you but this just like happened really fast and you know amd hosted an event uh some months ago no no some some months ago the phone call happened but then what happened really suddenly was the deal got inked and amd had an event that they did earlier this week where they announced actually a bunch of really cool stuff we'll talk about that a bit more later some zen architecture stuff um and they were like well you're going to be at this event with an amd badge on so that's tomorrow so i guess up goes a blog post at 10 43 p.m on december the second oh my goodness okay yeah aggressive so that's what happened and um so pretty much he's going to be working at amd to help implement the frame time based testing methods for game performance that he's been championing at tech report and um he'll have an opportunity to and i'm kind of summarizing his words in the thing because i don't want to say anything that he didn't say in his post to move across organizational lines and help ensure that the radeon technologies group creates the best possible experience for gamers so he'll have access to engineering to marketing to pretty much whatever with the intention of making the gaming experience in the radeon technologies group which i kind of looked at that announcement of radeon technologies group and kind of went oh okay so they're kind of going okay we're going back to amd and ati now and i kind of figured it would just kind of all be under the same management it wouldn't really be different uh apparently no there you know refocused renewed vision and focus with under raja kuduri's leadership and this is going to be a real thing and they've managed they've managed to get scott to drink the kool-aid so i am inclined to take a sip of the kool-aid myself radio technology so is it rtg now instead of ati i don't know the new rtg three or four ninety they should have just called it ati it would have been super it would have been so sick i actually love that like like if it like if they called it like the like oh like amd you know how do we work like a visual or graphics or like hmm ati x1000 yeah or like something something like that anyway so yeah that was that was that kind of that kind of that kind of shook me up earlier this week because between between scott and anand bailing and uh that that's a couple that's a couple like pretty big that's a couple pretty big names and one of the only really couple of the the hardcore written guys that i'm that close to who's no longer in the space speaking of which i haven't talked to shroud in a long time i was just going to say ryan um i asked scott what's going to happen to tech report obviously he'll be stepping down as editor-in-chief but i don't know if you guys know this scott also owns the tech report so um it doesn't take a genius to figure out that he can't work for amd and also run an editorial website and own an editorial website at the same time so uh something's gonna have to happen there um i i asked him about it i can't say anything that he said but like yeah something will have to happen yeah yeah i mean basically there's only a few options he sells it he dissolves it he uh shuts it down oh wait that gets the two of those at the same time from the knowledge that we have from the post i don't think he's gonna shut it down or dissolve it because it says tech report will continue under jeff kappmann uh campman managing editor for the last year and a half so and they're looking for writers to fill his role on cpu and graphics cards yeah so there you go what a thing hopefully this will help them avoid things like the driver problem amd drivers locking fan speeds at 20 and killing some cpus it's been passed gpus gpus sorry it's been patched um i don't usually like talking about these rumory kind of things until they're like done so we know if they're actually a thing or not yeah or like confirmed that it's an actual issue because i mean two people on a forum can like have their gtx 980 die after and i'm not really going to want to test it after i want mine to die yeah so like i don't know we're just going to wait till it's official and then we'll talk about it so yeah we i had some people messaging us messaging me asking about why we haven't been talking about the driver thing it's because like anyway it was a thing it is fixed now so it is safe to update your drivers but uh basically the fan speed was locking way too low that you're either at 20 or some people apparently having it go up to a hundred percent so things are weird i don't know yeah so it's fixed now so we all know who to yell at next time this happens you now have a public figure yeah go for it i don't know how how forward-facing he's gonna be yeah but i'm sure his twitter and stuff is still gonna survive i don't know maybe not i mean is he gonna delete his twitter okay so here's a couple things like you look at uh you look at roy taylor yeah from amd whose twitter disappeared off the face of the earth overnight and seems to be back i think he's back on twitter but under a different handle oh yeah it's roy underscore techwood and i i had sort of i had sort of like my initial reaction when i saw this fair amount of tweets yeah no no this is this is new but he's only got like 4 000 followers he had like like over 100 000 followers before yeah so site is still amd.com like i i don't really understand i don't really understand what happened here um i don't know anyway so it seems like someone at amd learned their lesson about just letting employees talk on twitter um or maybe didn't because he's back like i don't i don't no i don't know the backstory of what happened there and you know there's just because someone is good at being public facing doesn't mean that they'll be public facing i mean you look at it looks like you can ban someone from having a twitter account though if you you can tell them not to post like okay have you heard have you heard anything from anon since he left a non-tech no but that's i don't he's an apple though i don't think yeah but i don't think apple is even able to tell you to not have a personal twitter account of course they could fire you for using it they could fire you for saying things about apple okay that's that's possible they i don't think they can fire you for just using twitter um but at the same time like what i'm saying here is scott might not reply to people but if you're like oh my god what the hell you could message him and he could maybe forward that internally you might never hear about it but he still would probably be able to be contacted maybe maybe it's possible unless he deletes his twitter unless he deletes his twitter very also possible um speaking of deleting twitter uh actually not related to the leading twitter at all squarespace is one of our sponsors for today you can have a twitter feed on your squarespace page which you can actually we know this from firsthand experience yeah we're working on we're working on a special squarespace page for our ces coverage because squarespace is going to be our sponsor our main sponsor for ces this year oh apparently the video feed is frozen oh great that's fine that's a great freeze frame we should just do the still image rancho it's fine don't worry but don't don't even bother fix it just it's cool i wonder if they can see that oh yeah see this is the kind of this is the kind of crap that we go through oh wow if you just add a whole bunch of them if you were able to change the still frame you could grab rapidly add them and then we could have like a moving picture like one maybe less than one fps okay so let's find out if this is going to blue screen you're a blue screen i'm about to be potentially uh okay did you ever play magicka we'll be right back after these messages no wait it was the messages that god interrupted we'll be right back after we i don't know we're doing something hold on we might have an idea i'm gonna keep talking to you guys how's your day going before the show started i did two quizzes one of them was what is your favorite type of apple and the other one was waffles or pancakes i'm going to actually make a straw poll right now and i'm going to post that in the twitch feed i want you guys to answer both questions both questions are gonna be on one straw poll i know this is pretty like next level but we're gonna do this right now so give me one second straw poll dot m-e right that's interesting yeah whoa nope not straw pulled on me okay um okay wait what it is i'm confused apples and breakfast foods uh wow how do i ask what people's favorite type of apple is on straw poll oh would i have to list all of them i think so i think these are twitter blitz if you wanted to uh okay we can do both at the same time so i'm going to straw poll uh waffles or pancakes i'm going to twitter blitz favorite apple okay twitter blitz favorite apple i i don't think we're going to get this back up and running this is uh this is this is the thing that happened that is that is not making me super happy right now video input no signal wait i did the camera turn off no one plugged in the power adapter for the camera holy hell i mean uh diablo uh what really you guys today camera setup was a problem camera setup was a huge problem like all over the place just saying that was brutal yes i'm in the middle of your show i don't know what that means and we're back i hope are we back hello hello oh oh wow that's derpy looking yeah without even losing it okay so let's put your uh let's finish your twitter blitz here all right and then we'll get back to our sponsors here we go all right waffles and golden delicious because they are waffle excuse me delicious granny smith granny smith is like the most boring name for the most like sour intense apple that there is i love granny smith apples granny smith was covered in caramel those were and those were also the best candy apples that i've ever had yeah yeah my wife made candy apples this halloween it looks like like buy a lot too to die for yeah and you'd think there's nothing to it like what it's caramel which is basically sugar yeah and you dip a freaking apple in it how come the thing is she did caramel and then she did chocolate and then she did smarties just decorative eminem like it was it was a lot your mouth was just like whoa dude like the whole time favorite apple ipad pro with full nvme ssd and running windows for grannies it's actually pretty legit gotcha that i would actually i would be into that i'd be super down with that it is for apple thank you kids tv one two three granny smith all the way granny smith and waffles probably fuji gal or braeburn yeah okay okay i'm i'm into the fuji apples i'm into the fuji apples all right so let's get back to whoa it only works on my side squarespace ah there's four lattices to only one luke no my chest is here look at this oh yeah that's true we get all the luke boobage um okay so i'm gonna fix that i don't really know what i was thinking when i was a little confused i thought you were just trying to make a joke i was i was just around yeah um okay so squarespace is actually going to be our sponsor at ces this year oh my god how many times i didn't how many times you get to say build a beautiful are they on every video i can i can feel the dankness of the memes already on pc master race last year was minus dropping things this year it's going to be build it beautiful i'm going to be way too happy to say that every time okay so what is squarespace if you don't already know from watching the land show faithfully every week like you probably do yeah yeah maybe not um is that it is for building a beautiful website it's simple to use it's powerful you've got a web gui you just kind of build your site there and it boom it's up squarespace handles the hosting so you don't have to deal with any of that crap they've got 24 7 tech support and all of their templates are featuring responsive designs that look great on a phone they look great on a full-size screen they've got commerce modules that come with every site and you can start a free trial with no credit card required and start building your website today squarespace it starts at only eight bucks a month and you can get 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disease i found out rocket has a heart murmur what yeah so he might have to be on like blood thinners for the rest of his life that's interesting whoa yeah so like pet insurance kids that's a thing no i don't have it oh so that's going to be expensive because i'm pretty sure you can't buy pet insurance for in case he develops a heart murmur when he already has one yeah that said my vet's a family friend maybe they could discover it has not developed yet i recommend using an honest vet it's probably a good idea yeah um so this was posted on the forum by evil emir tiger direct to whoops wrong scene tiger directs to lay off 241 workers in january they were recently sold to pc mall for 14 million you know what's crazy about this is like my memories of tiger direct are like back in the days at ncix you know eight to eight to three years ago when they were like a legit competitor in the pc space and it was like the big three was your new egg your tiger and like i'm just trying to think who else was like a big i don't even think amazon was like not quite yet but they definitely are now but like tiger tiger came no it would have been uh zip zoom zip zoom fly oh yeah yeah they've gone gone forever yeah so so it was like back when like you know yeah yeah tiger direct and uh and and and uh comp usa who was actually acquired by tiger direct like that's what a big deal they were they were just like running around buying up comp usa stores so they closed a bunch of stores a while ago and they they have gotten rid of um they have they've sold to pc mall which i've actually discovered only recently that the reason that they probably liquidated all those assets is actually to do with um taxation purposes because if you if you sell a company and you more than less than 10 or something to do with being like active active assets or something like that like if it's like just sitting there if you have like a bunch of money sitting there or a bunch of buildings sitting there then you get taxed a lot more on that or something that's okay that's yeah things i would never know yeah uh all right why don't we blow through some of these sort of boring things uh tweak town article and video rumored to be preparing a geforce gtx 960 ti it'll be faster than a 960 but slower than a 970. and you can take that to the bank uh samstrecker posted that on the forum uh the radeon fury x2 gemini could be paper launching later this month according to wccf tech availability in q1 2016 could face potential delays i think that says everything we need to know right in the headline what will gemini be it will be two fury gpus on a single card nvidia seems to have kind of just bailed on the whole dual gpu good oh god so done with it don't want it oh there's a new gate there's a new gate there's a new gate it's bend gate again but this time check this out oh cpu bend gate intel's looking into reports but says there could be several variables at play but apparently using the rated mounting pressure aftermarket cpu coolers which by the way if you bought a skylake k series processor is all you're going to be using since there is no stock cooler that comes in the box yeah well you could buy a box cooler from someone else who isn't using it and speaking of which we need to get some box coolers we have like two 11 51 box coolers left in the end i don't know what happened to that what happened to the one i painted black what happened to like the pyramids yeah we had like we had a literal pyramid of them what happened i made a pyramid because i was like i have too many of these in my office so i built a pyramid on someone else's desk as a joke and then like didn't want them back yeah they're like all gone and now there's one that i can't figure out what it's for because it's not seven seven five it's not thirteen it's like smaller than eleven fifty five but bigger than seven seven five i don't know what the crap it is it's an intel box cooler so like no no no i don't know anyway um so yeah uh where's the black one i don't know i liked that one right actually used it quite a few times and we even because it looked really nice in b-roll yeah exactly well you know what there's probably one in this box but isn't that yep that's the black one no okay well there it is we found that one it's in the street machine um maybe that's what's causing all the problems take out the painted the painted cpu cooler it's getting paint flakes on everything um so right so haswell cpus apparently had a thicker substrate that caused them to not bend and that's that's the allegation but intel has obviously neither confirmed nor denied that this is the case up until this point um scythe has offered a solution offering new screws for their coolers to reduce the mounting pressure i didn't even know seif was still in business neither did i okay do you remember their crazy one that like went across your entire computer yes i do yeah i forget what it was called sure uh scythe giant cpu this will probably work i know that cooler master had a redunk one that um that's not the one oh yeah there it is yep there you go so this picture is from silent pc review uh just making sure i'm giving credit where credit is due so yep it's probably not all that silent no it probably is oh you just turn them all yeah if you run the fans at like 400 rpm or something stupid like that then here it is install installment i love that thing it's like yeah if you want to just you know heat up your graphics card more no look it's going to blow air on top of them okay yeah but like the surface area of this thing is so huge that the actual heating up of the air that's being done this is actually something that i that i've been meaning we should find a way to tackle this in a video because a lot of people have this misconception that like when you when you got it okay when your cpu is 70 degrees your heatsink is gonna be less than that let's say your heatsink is at 40 degrees or something like that and people have this misconception that when 25 degree air runs through those fins it's 40 degrees on the other side and and you're and you're now you're heating up the components on the other side this is not how it works at all a little bit a little not much slightly warmer airflow that came through a heatsink is still better than than nowhere nothing yeah and so i've seen people go oh my goodness linus you you mounted that cp that all in one liquid cooler backwards drawing air into the system you're now you're just you're heating your graphics card no the air that comes through that cooler is still cooler than my graphics card i was mostly joking no i know but okay no but people aren't yeah i know you know no but but people don't know this people are like oh you've got two radiators in series well we were gonna do that other the i don't know i don't want to say too much the cable no yeah no uh that's that's different i think we should tackle this no i know but it's it's a it's another one of those like people think it's the worst thing in the world right yeah that's true it's not really that it's not really that big um john had another interesting idea which i don't know if there's enough interest in um but with the thing that i was recently checking out that's all i'm going to say um i actually don't know what you're talking about either so you guys are on the same page as me motherboard orientation cooling efficiency like those silverstone ones where it's like up and the i o goes out yeah like how well does it create different things compared to it being rotated used to be a bigger deal back in the earlier days of heat pipes um they were only really effective in a certain direction so inverted motherboards would have issues where if you mounted the heap if you mounted the cooler wrong the um the the liquid wouldn't condense properly down to the hottest down to the cpu part of the heatsink and then it wouldn't actually cycle properly but it's it's not really a concern anymore um i wanted to jump back to the things don't you know a cooling medium doesn't get instantly hot after it touches something in the loop that's warm uh people who freak out if you've got your cpu and then your gpu in series in a water cooling loop the difference between the temperature of the water at the hottest point in a loop and the coldest point in the loop is except in very extreme situations with very low airflow or excuse me very low water flow probably in the neighborhood of about 0.1 to 0.2 degrees seriously it's a thing unless you're running like quarter-inch tubing on a pump that you've like found in your you know ground that's where you've got all your stuff for scrubbing yeah unless you found it in a back alley somewhere um so so no the system reaches pretty much equilibrium this is a fluid this is flowing extremely quickly yeah yeah a lot of the channels are like really narrow yeah because and like water does water does more than just uh cool by convection when it's running around in a loop like that like water can conduct heat within itself as well like it it's it it spreads really quickly it's kind of amazing um all right so what else do we got ac mechanical engineer can confirm in chat boom thank you thank you you know it's really funny because the fact that he's backing me up on this means that i'm going thank you but ninety-eight percent of the time when someone's like i'm actually a mechanical engineer it's probably it's probably nonsense on the internet because everyone like as soon as we start doing whole room water cooling our entire audience is plumbers so many plumbers apparently watch us and my favorite part was okay there was definitely some information in there that there was some okay we probably should have done that there are some great information also a ton of people claiming to be experts that had no idea what they were saying and yes we know we screwed up oh yeah it was a disaster oh yeah but not for the reasons that most people think it was a disaster like there was a lot of stuff that we did that was fine and a lot of stuff we did that was super not okay um speaking of super not okay or maybe fine geez i don't know i am dark yoshi posted this on the forum the original post here is from f.org your printer could be spying on you uh which it sounds more ominous than it probably is because the way that they're using this technology at least we think i mean at least we would have no reason to think they would be using it in any other way is to track um counterfeiting so now that affordable high quality printers are so affordable and high quality i want to jump in here real quick ant venom he's in the chat right now remember how he did the basement water cooling thing still running perfectly because he did it right by not using a steel reservoir i thought stainless would be fine i was wrong twice i thought anti-corrosive agents would make it okay i was wrong twice um okay so so basically uh right here you've got a list of the printers that do or do not display tracking dots but the the summary of this is basically um and this goes back like way to when like xerox invented the laser printer what they do is they actually use scattered pale yellow dots all over the document that they printed to give the serial number of the machine as well as i think there's some other information as well the number of yeah so xerox rep says they put the number of each machine coded into the yellow dots the dots cover less than a thousand one thousandth of a page and they can't be seen by the naked eye because it's usually yellow on white so what you have to do is you have to print a page and use a blue led flashlight and a magnifier to see if they're there and there's pretty much i mean where there's a will there's a way but there's pretty much no way to block this from happening because the yellow dots are actually something like 20 000th of a second blah blah before before the actual printing happens they're like injected so what if you don't feel yellow i don't know great question i don't know or like fill it with something else yeah i don't know so uh there you go anyway so something something that's interesting how does that actually help them i guess for counterfeiting stuff yes so if you get a bunch of counterfeit bills and you're kind of wondering okay where'd these companies come from you can inspect it try to see if the yellow dots are there figure out what printer it was from but like having the serial number of the printer is that really going to help you yeah that'll tell you what distributor it went through it'll tell you what retailer it was sold through okay so you could narrow it down to an area yep so now you can so you know it can tell you when it was sold so you can see a purchase package if it was amazon you could probably have the person's address yeah yeah so there no no it's like a big deal or even even a lot of other stores like there's lots of stores that collect customer profiles i mean i would hope that a counterfeiter would be smart enough not to fill out the customer satisfaction survey or whatever i would hope that they weren't yeah okay i would hope that they weren't but i would you know i know what you were saying yeah i was going to say to restore my faith in humanity accepts the fact that the counterfeiters are running out they're making fake money doesn't restore any of my faith in humanity so not really my point you don't want it to happen but you would hope that someone wouldn't be that stupid someone made a case for you so this was posted by numlock21 what you were talking about this just the other week oh yeah but they didn't know about that yeah yeah yeah so someone actually made a diy mac pro case i was talking to linus about maybe doing a video where i went and tried to buy like a bin or garbage can or whatever that looked kind of like it and trying to make like a the curved top thing all kinds of stuff to make it look like a mac pro and building a computer into it and then literally what the next wan show yeah it's like hey they made a case now to be clear you can't put dual fire pro cards in or anything like that it holds an sfx power supply and itx motherboard and i think like one 120 ml fan or something like that but uh yeah hey there you go i think we should try and get one for review if we can that'd be fun i'd love to just like check it out here maybe i'll make that your problem oh great get for review because it's like only available in like japan or something so if we send a message and they ignore it then we won't uh we won't go too we won't go so don't expect it yeah don't expect it but i am trying to get that flip phone actually dbrand is trying to get that flip phone because they have all the contacts to like get all the phones so um even though it's not a device are they gonna put like a more expensive skin than the actual phone on it no they they actually they aren't planning to support it they're just like being broke makes sense yep they're they're kind of bros so we're into their their bronies um let's see oh yeah just cause three suffers from terrible frame rates on the consoles this is posted over at thegamescabin.com and basically yeah the headline here is bloody awful which i guess pretty much says all you really need to know about it it was a matter of oh dang it did we just take them down i don't think so because i yeah there we go um so yeah basically they're saying yeah you know it's like especially bad when there's an explosion yes yep lots of effects on screen that is how frame rate dips work oh crap i just moved the thing around before i changed it anyways okay um but the the worst part they're actually saying too is that load screens anywhere from 30 seconds to what was the two and a half minutes two and a half minutes two and a half minutes yeah on the playstation 4. that's like morrowind xbox one level yeah that's a bummer apparently though the game's lots of fun so yeah i've heard really good things we probably should have done a performance review probably i didn't even know it came out yeah i've been so head down working on stuff i didn't yeah someone was like yeah it's tons of fun are you guys making videos like oh crap if it's already out it's probably a little late now oops uh all right what else we got here is uh we got like 10 minutes left no no no i was going to kind of wrap it up actually all right um yeah no i think that's kind of boring actually i don't really care uh there was no there was something else i wanted to do where is it i'm doing an after party are you yeah all right can i come sure i mean oh oh nope can't talk about that ah canelo's beta konami banned hideo kojima from accepting the metal gear award yeah this was like not cool it's like they it's like they desperately want to be the least popular company on the entire internet just what or you could not that would be super awesome um not allowed to attend tonight's game awards yep so i don't really have anything to say about that other than that it's konami being konami and uh oh this is interesting more just cause three news this is off the uh off geforce.com just cause three apparently straight up not compatible with multi-gpu solutions in other words a game update would be required for multi-gpu support this is straight from andrew burns from nvidia um which is sort of sort of a bummer so it's like they couldn't get it right on the consoles remember that card that like i i i laughed when he was like yeah and video stopped doing this a while ago when they put two gpus on the same card and charged you twice as much for it there's reasons yeah but you're running sli now for vr yeah okay i really hope no vr dev is stupid enough to not properly support i don't know if they're going to be able to i think vr sli is like rendering the the different eye views per card yes but wouldn't that interface with the headset more than the game i don't know because i really would have thought not sure i don't know how i would have thought if it was that simple we would have seen perfect scaling with 3d vision with sli like i'd have thought if it was as simple as like yeah i'll just render each eye with one gpu and boom perfect scaling i don't think it's simple but i'm assuming that it has more to do with the interface between the graphics cards and the headset than oh i believe it's not simple i just think nvidia is pretty smart and they've been kind of they they were beating that 3d vision drum pretty hard for a long time yeah and if it was like if it was as simple as gpu one renders the right eye gpu two renders the left eye yeah i'd have thought they would have just figured that out back then but i i don't know i don't know i am not a driver like my vr or my sli is off i just don't run it because there's so many problems and i just don't basically every single game that i play even like even pretty intense games don't need more than one 980. yeah i haven't run it since uh gtx 260. yeah that was the last time i was in a daily driver and like we stopped benchmarking sli probably about two and a half years ago just because it was like you know what there's tons of problems it's hard enough to get a video review video card review out without forcing ourselves to suffer yeah and like just like have games not work and not run properly and stuff so i mean it's one of those things nothing against nvidia nothing against amd i just i run a single graphics card because frankly there's single gpu solutions that are so powerful now someone's like yo can i have your unused 980 then it's not gonna be unused vr sli from nvidia yeah it's like i'm stoked for that i really hope it works well a thing and i'm gonna be playing the crap out of vr games if valkyrie is like and okay i almost don't even care that much about any games outside of what ccp is making i don't i haven't talked about this a ton on the show yeah but their disc throwing tron game is so much fun like you would love it no joke you you stand you stand it's have you seen the tron where they stand on the platforms and throw discs at each other and block with shields yeah it's exactly that and it's like pretty good tracking because they use connects for body tracking and stuff right and like the discs can bounce behind you and you can hear them so you have to like spin around and block it and then throw and like it's really active tons of fun i played against colton just wrecked him it would be fun to have a more athletic opponent um sorry he admittedly doesn't think he's very good at sports i don't know um but it was like 29 to 4 or something so like i don't know what to say but so much fun and then valkyrie is super fun and gunjack is super fun and then like there was there was some demo of another game there where you just like slowly walk up a mountain okay and look at birds and i'm like that's really cool and i'm sure some people will super enjoy that i definitely there is a market for that for sure it's just not me right i don't care all right well i think that's pretty much it for the show for today so i'm the last thing i'll do is i will drop this link in here if you haven't already go watch this video it is finally out on youtube it was actually i thought it was supposed to be a week earlier we actually totally screwed up our production schedule i thought it was we screwed up our production schedule on um on the super fun jousting video where we thought that for awesome stuff week for youtube we thought we had to have it done a week earlier than we did so we thought awesome stuff week was a week earlier so we released it on vessel timed to come out a week later on youtube for awesome stuff week but that was actually the following week so we had to do a simultaneous vessel release of odious lists and then delay the swag way jousting video by another week oh yeah i was going to talk more about zen and some of the stuff that they talked about right so am4 motherboards rumored to launch as early as march 2016 and they're going to be you know ddr4 like fully modernized and have both cpus and apus uh on the platform so if you guys haven't checked it out already i just linked it in the chat but this video is absolutely sick i mean this should give you some idea of what what's in store for you okay well that one that one's kind of lame because it's me versus taran but uh okay yeah there we go there's a good moment this is like way too much fun and way too dangerous i would not recommend anybody do this i'd love to shoot again yeah me too so uh yeah you guys are going to want to you guys are going to want to check that out i'll post the link one more time if you are not subscribed to channel super fun holy crap get subscribed you guys and share it we can't figure out why more people aren't watching these videos we don't understand i don't get it all right so thanks guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same bat channel bye there's a channel that has like 25 000 subscribers that did a medieval weapons fighting on swagway's video i found it on youtube somehow um and they don't even put alarms they have like the worst ever i was kind of just gonna go home okay i'm gonna go home and do my after party okay good night guyshello hey welcome to the wan show guys we are a little late we know we're right do they even i was talking in the twitch chat we're right we're ripe we are now a top shelf wine do they even want to hear why at this point is it is it just is it are they just tired of my excuses i don't think we should bother anymore because like is it actually really any different how about just a short summary sure we don't touch the computer from week to week and yet it doesn't work when we sit back down in front of it capture cards are a giant steaming pile of garbage basically all of them as far as i can tell and uh what was the other what was the other other bit this week uh well yeah uh we okay okay i had to give back the xlr audio interface that i had borrowed for the last couple of weeks to find out if that would work with our external compressor and and so i had to give that back so i had to reconfigure that but i knew that was coming that part was actually fine it was it the part that really bothers me is the part where i literally do not touch this entire corner of the building for a week and i come back and it doesn't work the camera does get taken down every week um yeah but that's not the issue right but you are unplugging things it's not like it was just running for the whole week i didn't but so there's that matter and actually the camera did not get unplugged this week it wasn't here what do you mean it wasn't here you said the camera wasn't you told me it wasn't set up what camera well no it was sitting here just like it didn't have a lens on it yeah but a lens does not affect the connection between the sdi cable and the converter and the capture like i don't understand i i feel like we need to just simplify things like uh i used to do a lot of wii u streams using avermedia cards which is like a video capture off of something yeah and never had a single problem with any of those streams yep and yet here we are with favor media cards and other cards we're trying to use black magic ones we still have them in the computer which is probably causing yeah no i don't think that's causing the problem today sure that was that was definitely part of the issue that was definitely part of the issue but nothing to do with the fact that our live gamer portable um all of a sudden needs a bunch of audio delay anyway so let's get right into what topics we have today one of them uh what we said one of them didn't we no we didn't even get to one of them no all right that's classic go for it amazon drone service is there's no other notes other than that so there's probably some information about the amazon drone service more details also radeon fury x2 is on the way whoo something we kind of knew uh just cause three runs light garbage on the consoles which we probably could have guessed yeah even if we didn't already know and vtech basically just i mean not because they not because they had any kind of a choice in the matter but they admit that their tablet was recording personal data and that they were storing it and this was a toy tablet right yes so without going super deep into the topic is it worse because it's for kids yes yes it is way worse it is many many many times worse because they are minors i had to ask him because he's a parent i already had that opinion but his matters more i didn't think i was that obvious i think it's pretty obvious that it matters more if it's no you called me a parent so all right guys so uh oh everyone's uh everyone's all everyone's all upset about my about my fantastic dad jokes i liked it i was good especially because i was saying that i had to ask that because you were a dad so the timing was good and the quality was haters gonna hate yo all right so this is this is about the least expected use of jeremy clarkson's talent yeah i could have possibly seen coming over over there at amazon but um yeah muted do you want it to be muted yeah yeah yeah muted is fine because basically they just have him explain that junior here needs some cleats or something and then whatever if only there were some way that amazon could send it to you i wonder how much puma paid for this product yeah because he says the name of the specifically literally like it felt like six times in the video so this is cool so this is a vtol vtol drone which means vertical takeoff and landing actual flight footage not simulated apparently and then what it does is because you can see it's kind of got a weird shape to it here it actually converts to a huge it converts to a forward flight craft what the crap just like that so it has a range of i think they were figuring something to the tune of around 18 miles it uses sensors to sense things you know flight data like speed and whatever that that looks kind of simulated and then basically it finds a suitable landing point delivery zone and i think there's actually like a little like like print out tag you put in your yard that it goes and finds then they actually show it landing right on it now i was one of those people who was in the camp of this is pure this is pure uh april fool's joke they are messing around with us um i i was of the mindset that they were just messing with us when they originally announced that they would deliver packages by drone but it looks like they are actually serious about this uh they have done a fair bit of r d presumably uh based on what they're saying in the video about you know how the drones have sensors to go around you know hot air balloons or whatever else so they're working on it and they they seem to be like for real about making this happen apparently it is designed to safely get packages to customers in 30 minutes or less making it actually faster for a small item mr clarkson works in a little joke about how the dog who chewed up the shoe is now getting a chew toy along with the new shoes um so as long as they're small lightweight items in under 30 minutes there is no launch date the drone in the video can fly for 15 miles 15 miles sorry i said 18 miles i think my bad 50 miles um so that that means that not everyone's really gonna be able to get this and i wonder how widespread this is actually gonna be considering the amazon fresh campaign is that still only in seattle amazon fresh i know i thought they were in new york too they might be i'm not sure i haven't looked this up i was just thinking about that right now um amazon seems to do things but then not necessarily spread them out actually all that well yeah amazon fresh subsidiary company in seattle washington it revived the business model of ordering groceries online baby boppity bippity boppity product lines uh selected parts of center city philadelphia pennsylvania new york city on october 17th 2014. so yeah san francisco san diego still kind of taking some time to spread out yes doing okay though yeah we're obviously this is not something where it's like yes this is driving 18 of our annual revenue uh yeah nothing nothing like that but um and there's still problems just like there was last time where putting prime air into service well this is a quote putting primary into service will take some time but we will deploy when we have the regulatory support needed to realize our vision that's huge yeah it's going to take a while and i mean this doesn't address a lot of the other issues as well so the drones that the drone they showed off there apparently flies at about 400 feet so for the um for the metric people it's about 130 meters uh which yeah it's not very high no actually so if if the whole thing that people are joking about online and you know if someone jokes about it hunting the drones yeah if if a thousand people joke about it online one person's gonna do it one will do it and that's kind of all it's gonna take is for one person to shoot like a net gun at a drone have it come down peg some kid in the head kill them and then i was just gonna say the first one that falls is gonna be really interesting yep can amazon just pay its way out of this you know like here's six million dollars sorry your kid's dead or whatever like i don't know will they will they keep the program going at that point how important is it for people to get things in 30 minutes currently about airplanes like real regulatory maintenance issues where they're they're repairing the planes out of the states because there's lower uh i don't know what the right word for it is uh you don't have to be as careful when you're doing maintenance when you do it outside of the states so seriously airplane people like airlines yes regulations that's what i was looking for um there's lower amounts of regulations looser regulations for repairing airplanes so they're doing it outside of the states uh they're already sketchy about airplanes think about drones are they gonna be doing maintenance checks on these things like every trip or every couple trips i doubt it yeah unless amazon has like robots that are going to do that but then i don't know uh it's a really cool idea people are saying that the the limit for drones is uh 400 feet and that's why yeah but that's not really the point the point is that people will be bringing them down yes so yeah i mean if the u.s changes the regulations and allows amazon to fly them higher then that's that opens up a whole other can of worms because someone in the chat said so i guess we're all wondering if amazon prime air is gonna take off um um so there was one other comment that i wanted to make about it uh right yeah one of the first one of the top comments on the on the video was from someone saying like oh you know the the couriers must be must be really worried about this to which i would reply i really don't think so amazon even now is positioning this and and intelligently so is positioning this as a as a premium service yeah so this is not like you need to have a market like if you saw in the video you need to have a little like drop the package here thing in your yard i don't know how many people are gonna actually do that well no i think you just you just like print it when you place your order and you check it there oh yeah i don't think it looked like it was down in the grass i don't think it's permanent it looks i don't know in the video okay that maybe they like did a heavy one so that it wouldn't like get blown away and stuff probably looked better yeah you had another concern it ends up in your neighbor's yard they're like nope my property now um what yeah what happens when it screws up a delivery yeah so so okay there's a lot of concerns okay so a it's expensive b this is going to be for lightweight items only small orders only i'm pretty sure they were doing cleats yeah i'm pretty sure that ups is not worried at this point about you know all the people ordering like half the i'm just trying to think what percentage of the stuff we order off of amazon would fit in a little drone like that us not much yeah not not much it's like if you order a computer case i don't think there's going to be the like the jumbo drum with that set prefer the like books and stuff if you can carry cleats you might be able to carry a book or two and zeppelin technology is coming back that's awesome zeppelins are coming back my friend so if they can get the zeppelin drone going as long as they don't make them like a crane lower out of it and drop your package off like crane lowers out and then it just like tilts up and just slides off yeah i mean okay as long as they don't make the zeppelins out of hydrogen or lead then we're in really good shape yeah there you go all right uh let's just see if there's anything else to really say about it probably probably not we've talked about this thing like three times almost nothing's changed except there's a video now well the smart this the video changes a lot for me because seeing seeing such an elegant design for a uh vtol plane drone the drone itself is super cool makes a big difference to me because when they originally did the april fool's joke they were using a quadcopter drone or a six copter drone if i recall correctly and that's like some of the stuff out of china right where we've seen like you know early attempts to it's all like these six copter like just total like disaster over long distances designs whereas yeah if you can go all plane all plane uh you know forward flying on it then it might actually work very very cool i want to know what prevents people from capturing them when they land in their yard like i'm sure they have sensors cameras whatever yeah i'm i'm fairly sure that i could order something to anyone's address for one thing i could put on a ski mask or whatever and like capture the drone when it lands put it in a lead box and you know take it away to i don't know like i'm sure i'm someone's if something is valuable someone will come up with a way to steal it yeah period someone will probably get one yeah or it'll land and drop off its thing and then not really be able to leave like i don't know something's going to happen and i guess it's funny people are worried about like automation and rightfully so but uh i mean that creates a new job right the guy whose job it is to get in his car and drive to drive to the customer's house be like hey yeah sorry the drone's in the backyard can i just here's a here's a gift card yeah i'm gonna go get that thanks for that um so that was posted on the forum by uh pixel density thank you for that uh next article today posted by pc beyond on the forum youtube seeks to compete with netflix original article here is from arstechnica.co.uk and i think youtube's intentions of you know getting movie deals and tv show deals um and wanting more more professionally made premium content is not exactly new but what is new is that there's some more details about them being perhaps a little bit more serious about it than last time around so the wall street journal reported that youtube is looking to bolster youtube red specifically with tv shows and movies because youtube premium or whatever they called it before you could run movies on youtube before that's not new and you've been able to watch like ufc fights but so but but that was pay-per-view and rentals yeah whereas this would be like basically a direct shot across the bow of netflix by saying okay no we want to have a monthly subscription that also includes tv shows and movies and if they pull this off i mean youtube red effectively becomes your spotify your netflix and your ad free youtube like the ads ad free youtube for 10 bucks a month is already a compelling enough value that i'm probably gonna do it and then you get music and you make it movies as well and you might get movies and tv shows and tv shows and tv shows i mean ad-free ad-free youtube from a purely i need my kids to shut up for half an hour while i get a little bit more sleep in the morning is already enough for me to spend the ten dollars a month on it because let me tell you a one-year-old is super interested in you know a is for apple ah apple and then when some ad for like biore skin cream comes on she starts she starts mashing at it she starts throwing it she starts making noise i'm like no i'm still sleeping it is for apple please and snoozing in the morning when you get woken up every literally every three and a half minutes when the ad comes on and you know it's amazing how much the way that youtube has monetized kids content has changed in the last two years because when my son was one and i wanted to sleep in in the morning like kidstv123 had almost no ads on it like one out of every 30 videos that played was gonna be monetized now it's like every single one that's a huge percentage of youtube at this point yep yeah but i just i thought that the you know kids advertising kids advertising laws were a little complicated which isn't to yeah which is then again i guess you know tv does it too yeah tv does it too yeah but there's like rules depending on the country like in canada this isn't just no idea about any of this yeah in canada a commercial can't start with hey kids do you want to buy the new wild wacky amazing adventure pack it has to be like hey parents do you want to buy for your kids the wild whack the amazing action pack look at how amazing this thing is so it has it's the voice that that it's speaking it has to address a different audience um but i guess that leads us that actually leads us pretty well into this post by z mule on the forum the original article here is kit guru and v-tech v-tec nailed sun oh so if you you guys you guys know vtech like i only really know them from like clear plastic uh cordless you know phones yeah yeah yeah yeah back when we had a landline yeah a lot of people have those as landlines at least at least here anyway like i'm pretty sure like future shop and the source you walked in you wanted a cordless phone you walked in you wanted and you wanted a relatively cheap one 900 megahertz yeah 2.4 gigahertz i remember how they wrote the v like there's tons of these yeah so so basically they admit their toy hack affected 6.4 million children this is this is great their statement about it so i'll give you a bit more details after but regrettably our database was not as secure as it should have been so in a nutshell on the 14th of november its learning lodge app store was broken into giving a hacker access to the customer database and kid connect services so what's the worst thing about this is that servers yeah um so this hack actually allowed them to get access not only to just like uh you know uh login and login and password but they actually were able to figure out the exact uh the exact accounts that they were tied to giving them access to way more personal information than just that and they had a bunch of other stuff in their data in their in their system including the hackers were able to access more than 190 gigs of photos and audio logs off of these devices that can then be traced back to usernames and account details which makes the security threat much more worrisome especially considering this is a child friendly marketed device the into tab max our fastest tablet featuring v6 vtv selected android apps and games that's really sketchy i'm not a huge fan of it also um compromised other sites as well one of them i can't even really say lumi bo x revs i don't know probably said that super wrong v smile link dot com sleepy bear lullaby time which is the greatest name for a website ever yeah i kind of wanna buy that site it reminds me of channel super fun sleepybear lullaby time.com so great anyways so these are all vtech uh owned entities yeah so i guess uh i guess i don't know what is there to really say by the way is emil posted this on the forum thanks for that what is there to really say other than you know lock up your lock up your kids and keep them away from all the internet hijo hijo what let's hide your kids hide your kids lock up people let's lock up your daughters that's the oh yeah i thought you're going for internet meme no no no no no hide your wife yeah because they hacking everybody out here yeah nothing nothing safe hey not really i think i own v-tech stuff nothing nothing that collects any personal information it's like i don't because the only thing i ever knew that they made were like relatively cheap phones that's the only reason why i don't know no i'm pretty sure they make lots of kids stuff because i have like this uh i have like this goofy um it's got like a keyboard on it and it's got like just kind of games like fill in the letter blank okay and there's like there's like a happy bear that asks you to fill in the letter create a letter bridge i love that website name um sleepy bear lullaby time this is kind of a big deal posted by commissions i don't know how to pronounce that but uh on the forum so this is from geek.com sony unlocks the playstation 4's seventh processing core for developers so in a nutshell this is something microsoft already did a little while back in order to get a little more competitive with the playstation 4 is the the amd custom processor that they're actually both using although different slightly slightly different versions of it but the actual cpu cores themselves they're both using an eight core apu of sorts and uh so the xbone was reserving two of its cores for things like uh connect safe for example um so microsoft kind of went oh shoot we're kind of losing the performance more because microsoft went with a slightly slower tuned version so they unlocked a seventh core which means that in games that need to leverage that extra horsepower you can't access um some background processes such as menus and and connect say are sorry excuse me menus uh such as connect which is good which is which is which is fine because if the game wasn't gonna leverage connect at all anyway then it can use the processing power that would have been locked and unused yes um and with you know if you're making you know happy dance party time x or whatever game if you fair sleepy time yeah then you you frankly don't need the seven cores anyway so that that seems like a pretty good compromise to me so place uh so sony has now i think we're yeah so this was back in january that microsoft did it so almost a year later they have now done the same thing allowing the playstation 4 to basically get as close to its potential maximum as it can which is going to be brutal for xbox one because they already did this and like we're up still losing to playstation so now playstation will be even more ahead yeah with i guess the um the the the rain this this the discussion point here because that news in and of itself is not actually terribly exciting the consoles this generation are underpowered yeah whoop deeper can do here's what i want to know and i want to hear from you guys we're going to straw pull this up in here nice i'm excited i like straw polls if you think back to microsoft's xbox one launch event their whole thing the server thing is that what you're talking about no i'm not going to talk about that that's that's a whole other ball of wax that drives me insane that might not that might just never see the light of day i don't think so um so did we're gonna use cloud servers to render things for your thing and it's gonna make it easier and better and faster and that'll never happen all right uh hold on i'm just going to create i'm going to create the uh it's like skiing in world of warcraft how many times have they said they were going to put skiing in the game nope have they yeah it was on the ball is on the back of the box for wrath of lich king excellent all right well at any rate there's the straw poll um random facts that don't matter there you go you did not know that so if you think back to the you guys i didn't even ask the question i haven't clarified yet well keep the tab open so you can fix it in case you change your mind so if you think back to the xbox one launch event microsoft's whole spiel was that the xbox one is not a game console it is like your family living room hub it is your entertainment hub it is your you watch tv on it you you know wave at it and you're like hey xbox wow wake up and let's play some games oh well not just games maybe we're gonna look at our photos or access our skydrive or yeah i guess they still called it skydrive at that point i don't know anyway the point is it was supposed to be more than just a game console a game machine but not a pc it wasn't a pc make it an entertainment system they didn't know what the hell it was so did they learn their lesson is that what we're figuring out here now that microsoft and sony have both kind of gone oh people don't really care other than like their netflix app they don't really care about doing anything on this other than playing video games i don't think they have it turns out a game console is just a console or are they gonna come back with the xbox two and the playstation five and are they gonna be like if they call it the two i'm gonna i'm gonna like crap a brick okay if they call it the xbox that would be so horrible um so are they gonna come back with that and go yeah we added way more power this time for way better gaming and also we cordoned off a bit of it again for like we're going to still try and do that other stuff again so i want to know i want to know from you guys so let's let's head over to my screen let's have a look at straw poll results we've got a whopping 58 of you most of whom didn't even wait for me to explain the question saying no they did not learn their lesson a 31 of you are voting for turnip the way you should throwing away your votes i love the timing of our whole vote for turnip thing and then donald trump running for president every time i wear that shirt every time i wear that shirt people are like ah it's a donald trump joke because you might as well just vote for a turnip and it kind of looks like um and then 11 of you go yes they're gonna treat a game console like a game console next time i don't think so what do you okay well i was about to ask what you think i think that's the way to interrupt me why anyways i don't think that they have uh reasons for why i don't think that they have are largely based in the past i know things have changed but still um this was the first time that they've made money by selling their console so i feel like that much i know but still before they were losing now they're making some that's actually a pretty significant difference when you're selling that much volume so you're saying we're still going to get underpowered consoles because they got used to the idea of making money selling the console yes i get it before it was like accessories and whatever and we'll make it it'll be awesome now it's like experience and we want to make more money because it's more premium or not really and 160 accessories yeah yeah that too elite controller yeah um so i don't really think so and this honestly should have been in there from the start even if it was um still aimed to not be it as gamey of a game console as it is right um because why not yeah why force the developer yeah so i don't think that actually has anything to do about them learning that it should be just a game console i think that has them has more to do with that should have just been a thing why lock it off that's just stupid i will explain why and actually you know what because they're trying to force people to use the thing i was gonna say no it's deeper than that okay i was going to say that i was going to disagree with you i was going to say that i think they learned their lesson and i think they're going to come back focused on gaming and gamers but i actually realized as you were talking that i'm with you but for a slightly different reason okay because i think they are still going to try to force the game developers to use the gimmick and they're still going to try and create the gimmick because at the end of the day 900p versus 720p is something that the pc audience cares about but that the console audience is frankly many of them not that interested in whereas when you create a marketing video look at how many we so fun look at how many wiis nintendo sold from showing people waggling sticks around honestly though that was legitimately fun it was and the connect isn't but that's what the marketing that's that's the marketing engine that's why they're going to keep forcing game they're going to come up with a gimmick yeah yeah and they're going to force game devs to use the gimmick and they're going to they're going to they're going to punish game devs who don't use the gimmick and they're going to do it again and again and again because that's visually interesting whereas 300 fps at 4k well actually 4k they might be able to sell but but but not for a long time because 4k tvs are only now just barely approaching affordability okay first off i am a nintendo fan boy so oh just gonna get that like fairly across the board we know uh even though they're despicable in so many ways they're pretty bad but it's okay it's okay it's fine zelda's coming out yoshi's adorable i have the woolly one the little toy because i bought yoshi's woolly world which is just the best game it's so much fun if you complete a level with 100 you get another yoshi and he comes in like you can get like a kaoioshi or like a forest yoshi and they're hilarious and they're super cute anyways moving forward with the wii when they make some crazy gimmick thing you can just ignore it the developer can just ignore it with the gamepad thing you don't have to use it unless the developers nintendo and they're making twilight princess and then they're gonna do some stupid crap yeah sure but i had to buy a classic controller just to play that stupid game yes yes carry on though but they can they don't force people to use their gimmicky things like that you can just turn the controller sideways turning into a more retro style controller use none of the motions the least ergonomic retro controller ever pretty rough but still use none of the motion stuff and the condom on the end you don't have to you can take that off you can go wrong but that's not safe it's that's true bareback is not the kind of we use that we fair though that's the only way i use my controllers because you dressed yourself not to throw them at your tv i mean everybody okay this is okay sorry do you still have your train of thought will you be able to come back to it because i'm sorry go for it okay okay so i was sitting at work okay i was at my desk um so i was working at ncix back when the wii came out so i was sitting at my desk and i i had gotten the wii for myself for christmas for my family but it was for me so i'd gotten the wee for myself for christmas and i my like uh my my in-laws and my now wife then girlfriend and i had spent like the entire holiday season bowling and like playing tennis with each other and that's great so i read i start reading the articles about people breaking their tvs flinging remotes and i'm at i'm at my my in-laws house and i'm talking to my now girl then girlfriend now wife i don't now have a girlfriend um and i'm like what kind of flipping idiot oh no throws the wemo at the tv so she kind of goes ashen right and like she's just like she kind of changes the subject like meanwhile i want to talk about this forever i'm like you got to be freaking kidding me like if you're that sweaty take it take a break okay stop flinging your arms around just take a breather okay the wii even interrupts you every like 20 minutes or whatever you go outside it's like yeah hey you know everyone just like stop playing wii sports for 10 minutes okay so later on i'm talking to her and she's like so yeah my dad like threw the wemo today he was in the room when i'm talking about this she's like yeah my dad threw the wiimote at the tv today he almost broke it and i was just like what that is so brutal i i thought you were talking about the like gel sleeve no they didn't exist yet oh this was in the early days i'm like oh gee yeah i know no i know i actually that was what i was talking about yeah that was what i was talking about when i talked about the wii condom but i got one i was super lucky you remember how the stock was super bad yeah you couldn't find them anywhere i jumped out twice i didn't camp out at all i walked into my local best buy and like some employee that didn't know that they were back stocked or whatever just put one on the shelf and i was like uh okay picked it up and bought it the person that till was like what say yup cool just walked out and got one i think it was probably someone else's order so after i realized that i felt kind of bad but i was like it's on the shelf so i felt kind of bad all the way to the bank oh well it was kind of expensive at the time well yeah what was it like four hundred dollars i don't remember but i remember like i had saved up for for it for a bit and i think my mom like helped contribute because she wanted the the fitness that be packed i ended up with four of them before christmas yeah well my wife my wife and i camped twice okay and so my boss the owner of ncix needed one so that got a hefty markup yeah um my other boss uh who was actually he actually visited our studio the other day he's like he i would consider him a friend not just like a former boss um so my other boss got one he got a less hefty but definitely you know yeah well they're going for this much on ebay so you know relatively close to that yeah yeah um so i actually made so much selling a couple of them that mine were effectively like a couple hundred bucks for two there you go and i bought some emotes so uh so yeah that worked out pretty well for me with that said i don't have the kind of time to do stuff like that although i have exciting news when are you seeing star wars uh i'm waiting i want to go with brandon because he's good to talk to movies about afterwards and stuff so i don't actually have a ticket yet because he doesn't have a ticket yet so i this is a major this is a big shout out there's a huge massive like but you have opening day tickets well not quite okay but this is a massive shout out to anthony over at ncix who thanks to i'm not gonna say how he got them but it's something to do with like a purchase that he made recently and like an owner's club website that probably no one will ever visit ever there's a special non-public screening at 9 00 a.m on the saturday wow 9 a.m the day after it launches so he has two tickets and he was kind of shopping them around like and jack was like yeah i'm going with you know someone else and blah blah and like and he and and i was like and then he was like oh well i don't know linus do you want to come do you have tickets yet i'm like actually no because i have children and so going to see like a late night screening is not always the easiest thing for me and stuff like that so i was i was planning i was literally planning to spend three weeks with my eyes closed and my fingers in my ears until i was going to be able to see it nope i'm seeing it 9am so so anthony and i have a master plan to show up at like 7 30. it's first come first served so we have a master plan to show up at like 7 30 in the morning uh at the theater and it's going to be freaking awesome and i'm gonna see it on time pretty much for the first come first serve and you're showing up at 7 30 for nine amperes but remember this is not a public screening probably no one knows about it there wasn't even an email newsletter nothing if you happen to sign into like the owner's portal wow that's unlikely yeah so i'm expecting to be sitting like dead theater center wow for star wars the day after launch i'm super super excited i'm assuming brandon is going to be waiting a little while because i think he wants really good seats too yeah so i'm probably gonna be waiting a while all i can say is it better not disappoint because the last movie that i like freaked out and saw right away was the hobbit part one have you heard about the darth jar jar binks i have i love it it's actually pretty good i actually love it if you haven't seen the conspiracy theory that's pretty solid that jar jar is actually the sith master orchestrating everything behind the scenes uh check it out it was a great post on reddit it's really good it's really good there's like it's it goes all kind of like well hold on yeah yeah what if jar jar was all like like drunken kung fu master kind of thing like when he's like jumping around a missile clumsy boom knocking out drawing with drains and killing them all over the place what if it's all an act and then he's like inexplicably in the second movie he's like a member of the senate yeah or something like this what yeah yeah it's interesting it actually like you must have been using mind control i still don't that's a huge part of it that's a huge part of it yeah and they have clips where he's like doing the hand wavy thing all the time super interesting i don't know it's it's ridiculous and it's yeah but it's fun and it makes you not hate so much those series of movies if you go back and i i haven't done it yet but if you rewatch with that in mind i plan to i'm going to re-read the whole spiel because it's like a couple pages long yeah i'm gonna reread the whole spiel i'm gonna watch phantom menace again thinking jar jar is a mastermind and trying to mind control and pretend that he's crappy when he's not yeah he got he got kicked out of the underground city we know this he caused all kinds of problems stupid viewer we assumed that you know he knocked over the you know prince's daffodil plant or whatever but you know daffodils would be pretty valuable underwater oh yeah wow would probably be a rare commodity probably imported so so you know was george lucas planning and this is the this is the theory was george lucas planning uh a luke i am your father moment for the end of attack of the clones no it was me the whole time that never happened because he bailed um and obviously not but yeah it's fun anyway it's it's really fun yeah speaking of things that are fun scott our good buddy over at amd and not tech reports i didn't see that one coming did not see that one coming is no longer is no longer going to be cards on time now maybe this is a good thing no he's not in that role oh yeah sorry um so so i i actually ugh i've spoken on the phone with scott since the announcement and i don't know how much of what was said was public knowledge versus what wasn't so i will give a summary of what's in in his blog post and and not much more but i'm gonna i'm gonna be connecting with him uh at ces and i'll probably talk in some more depth but um just for those of you who don't know i respect scott a lot he's super smart he's been doing this whole tech journalism thing he's just such a respectable guy he's been doing this for over 15 years and you know what we actually like we have uh uh we have a partnership with tech report on a couple things like we've worked together on a couple things in the past um and this just he kind of like i i sent him a tweet that was like you know we we can't bleep things on lan shows so i'm not going to use the exact words that i did but it was just basically like what the and you can kind of fill in the blanks for yourself yeah like seriously um and he kind of sends back the best she's like yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry dude i super meant to tell you but this just like happened really fast and you know amd hosted an event uh some months ago no no some some months ago the phone call happened but then what happened really suddenly was the deal got inked and amd had an event that they did earlier this week where they announced actually a bunch of really cool stuff we'll talk about that a bit more later some zen architecture stuff um and they were like well you're going to be at this event with an amd badge on so that's tomorrow so i guess up goes a blog post at 10 43 p.m on december the second oh my goodness okay yeah aggressive so that's what happened and um so pretty much he's going to be working at amd to help implement the frame time based testing methods for game performance that he's been championing at tech report and um he'll have an opportunity to and i'm kind of summarizing his words in the thing because i don't want to say anything that he didn't say in his post to move across organizational lines and help ensure that the radeon technologies group creates the best possible experience for gamers so he'll have access to engineering to marketing to pretty much whatever with the intention of making the gaming experience in the radeon technologies group which i kind of looked at that announcement of radeon technologies group and kind of went oh okay so they're kind of going okay we're going back to amd and ati now and i kind of figured it would just kind of all be under the same management it wouldn't really be different uh apparently no there you know refocused renewed vision and focus with under raja kuduri's leadership and this is going to be a real thing and they've managed they've managed to get scott to drink the kool-aid so i am inclined to take a sip of the kool-aid myself radio technology so is it rtg now instead of ati i don't know the new rtg three or four ninety they should have just called it ati it would have been super it would have been so sick i actually love that like like if it like if they called it like the like oh like amd you know how do we work like a visual or graphics or like hmm ati x1000 yeah or like something something like that anyway so yeah that was that was that kind of that kind of that kind of shook me up earlier this week because between between scott and anand bailing and uh that that's a couple that's a couple like pretty big that's a couple pretty big names and one of the only really couple of the the hardcore written guys that i'm that close to who's no longer in the space speaking of which i haven't talked to shroud in a long time i was just going to say ryan um i asked scott what's going to happen to tech report obviously he'll be stepping down as editor-in-chief but i don't know if you guys know this scott also owns the tech report so um it doesn't take a genius to figure out that he can't work for amd and also run an editorial website and own an editorial website at the same time so uh something's gonna have to happen there um i i asked him about it i can't say anything that he said but like yeah something will have to happen yeah yeah i mean basically there's only a few options he sells it he dissolves it he uh shuts it down oh wait that gets the two of those at the same time from the knowledge that we have from the post i don't think he's gonna shut it down or dissolve it because it says tech report will continue under jeff kappmann uh campman managing editor for the last year and a half so and they're looking for writers to fill his role on cpu and graphics cards yeah so there you go what a thing hopefully this will help them avoid things like the driver problem amd drivers locking fan speeds at 20 and killing some cpus it's been passed gpus gpus sorry it's been patched um i don't usually like talking about these rumory kind of things until they're like done so we know if they're actually a thing or not yeah or like confirmed that it's an actual issue because i mean two people on a forum can like have their gtx 980 die after and i'm not really going to want to test it after i want mine to die yeah so like i don't know we're just going to wait till it's official and then we'll talk about it so yeah we i had some people messaging us messaging me asking about why we haven't been talking about the driver thing it's because like anyway it was a thing it is fixed now so it is safe to update your drivers but uh basically the fan speed was locking way too low that you're either at 20 or some people apparently having it go up to a hundred percent so things are weird i don't know yeah so it's fixed now so we all know who to yell at next time this happens you now have a public figure yeah go for it i don't know how how forward-facing he's gonna be yeah but i'm sure his twitter and stuff is still gonna survive i don't know maybe not i mean is he gonna delete his twitter okay so here's a couple things like you look at uh you look at roy taylor yeah from amd whose twitter disappeared off the face of the earth overnight and seems to be back i think he's back on twitter but under a different handle oh yeah it's roy underscore techwood and i i had sort of i had sort of like my initial reaction when i saw this fair amount of tweets yeah no no this is this is new but he's only got like 4 000 followers he had like like over 100 000 followers before yeah so site is still amd.com like i i don't really understand i don't really understand what happened here um i don't know anyway so it seems like someone at amd learned their lesson about just letting employees talk on twitter um or maybe didn't because he's back like i don't i don't no i don't know the backstory of what happened there and you know there's just because someone is good at being public facing doesn't mean that they'll be public facing i mean you look at it looks like you can ban someone from having a twitter account though if you you can tell them not to post like okay have you heard have you heard anything from anon since he left a non-tech no but that's i don't he's an apple though i don't think yeah but i don't think apple is even able to tell you to not have a personal twitter account of course they could fire you for using it they could fire you for saying things about apple okay that's that's possible they i don't think they can fire you for just using twitter um but at the same time like what i'm saying here is scott might not reply to people but if you're like oh my god what the hell you could message him and he could maybe forward that internally you might never hear about it but he still would probably be able to be contacted maybe maybe it's possible unless he deletes his twitter unless he deletes his twitter very also possible um speaking of deleting twitter uh actually not related to the leading twitter at all squarespace is one of our sponsors for today you can have a twitter feed on your squarespace page which you can actually we know this from firsthand experience yeah we're working on we're working on a special squarespace page for our ces coverage because squarespace is going to be our sponsor our main sponsor for ces this year oh apparently the video feed is frozen oh great that's fine that's a great freeze frame we should just do the still image rancho it's fine don't worry but don't don't even bother fix it just it's cool i wonder if they can see that oh yeah see this is the kind of this is the kind of crap that we go through oh wow if you just add a whole bunch of them if you were able to change the still frame you could grab rapidly add them and then we could have like a moving picture like one maybe less than one fps okay so let's find out if this is going to blue screen you're a blue screen i'm about to be potentially uh okay did you ever play magicka we'll be right back after these messages no wait it was the messages that god interrupted we'll be right back after we i don't know we're doing something hold on we might have an idea i'm gonna keep talking to you guys how's your day going before the show started i did two quizzes one of them was what is your favorite type of apple and the other one was waffles or pancakes i'm going to actually make a straw poll right now and i'm going to post that in the twitch feed i want you guys to answer both questions both questions are gonna be on one straw poll i know this is pretty like next level but we're gonna do this right now so give me one second straw poll dot m-e right that's interesting yeah whoa nope not straw pulled on me okay um okay wait what it is i'm confused apples and breakfast foods uh wow how do i ask what people's favorite type of apple is on straw poll oh would i have to list all of them i think so i think these are twitter blitz if you wanted to uh okay we can do both at the same time so i'm going to straw poll uh waffles or pancakes i'm going to twitter blitz favorite apple okay twitter blitz favorite apple i i don't think we're going to get this back up and running this is uh this is this is the thing that happened that is that is not making me super happy right now video input no signal wait i did the camera turn off no one plugged in the power adapter for the camera holy hell i mean uh diablo uh what really you guys today camera setup was a problem camera setup was a huge problem like all over the place just saying that was brutal yes i'm in the middle of your show i don't know what that means and we're back i hope are we back hello hello oh oh wow that's derpy looking yeah without even losing it okay so let's put your uh let's finish your twitter blitz here all right and then we'll get back to our sponsors here we go all right waffles and golden delicious because they are waffle excuse me delicious granny smith granny smith is like the most boring name for the most like sour intense apple that there is i love granny smith apples granny smith was covered in caramel those were and those were also the best candy apples that i've ever had yeah yeah my wife made candy apples this halloween it looks like like buy a lot too to die for yeah and you'd think there's nothing to it like what it's caramel which is basically sugar yeah and you dip a freaking apple in it how come the thing is she did caramel and then she did chocolate and then she did smarties just decorative eminem like it was it was a lot your mouth was just like whoa dude like the whole time favorite apple ipad pro with full nvme ssd and running windows for grannies it's actually pretty legit gotcha that i would actually i would be into that i'd be super down with that it is for apple thank you kids tv one two three granny smith all the way granny smith and waffles probably fuji gal or braeburn yeah okay okay i'm i'm into the fuji apples i'm into the fuji apples all right so let's get back to whoa it only works on my side squarespace ah there's four lattices to only one luke no my chest is here look at this oh yeah that's true we get all the luke boobage um okay so i'm gonna fix that i don't really know what i was thinking when i was a little confused i thought you were just trying to make a joke i was i was just around yeah um okay so squarespace is actually going to be our sponsor at ces this year oh my god how many times i didn't how many times you get to say build a beautiful are they on every video i can i can feel the dankness of the memes already on pc master race last year was minus dropping things this year it's going to be build it beautiful i'm going to be way too happy to say that every time okay so what is squarespace if you don't already know from watching the land show faithfully every week like you probably do yeah yeah maybe not um is that it is for building a beautiful website it's simple to use it's powerful you've got a web gui you just kind of build your site there and it boom it's up squarespace handles the hosting so you don't have to deal with any of that crap they've got 24 7 tech support and all of their templates are featuring 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yeah okay so uh i i've been corrected so i don't know i don't know what's worse well they're both terrible yeah yeah they're both like absolutely both just like at the full volume level like it's just they're both you can't really get any more than that i don't know because there's like oh speaking of heart disease i found out rocket has a heart murmur what yeah so he might have to be on like blood thinners for the rest of his life that's interesting whoa yeah so like pet insurance kids that's a thing no i don't have it oh so that's going to be expensive because i'm pretty sure you can't buy pet insurance for in case he develops a heart murmur when he already has one yeah that said my vet's a family friend maybe they could discover it has not developed yet i recommend using an honest vet it's probably a good idea yeah um so this was posted on the forum by evil emir tiger direct to whoops wrong scene tiger directs to lay off 241 workers in january they were recently sold to pc mall for 14 million you know what's crazy about this is like my memories of tiger direct are like back in the days at ncix you know eight to eight to three years ago when they were like a legit competitor in the pc space and it was like the big three was your new egg your tiger and like i'm just trying to think who else was like a big i don't even think amazon was like not quite yet but they definitely are now but like tiger tiger came no it would have been uh zip zoom zip zoom fly oh yeah yeah they've gone gone forever yeah so so it was like back when like you know yeah yeah tiger direct and uh and and and uh comp usa who was actually acquired by tiger direct like that's what a big deal they were they were just like running around buying up comp usa stores so they closed a bunch of stores a while ago and they they have gotten rid of um they have they've sold to pc mall which i've actually discovered only recently that the reason that they probably liquidated all those assets is actually to do with um taxation purposes because if you if you sell a company and you more than less than 10 or something to do with being like active active assets or something like that like if it's like just sitting there if you have like a bunch of money sitting there or a bunch of buildings sitting there then you get taxed a lot more on that or something that's okay that's yeah things i would never know yeah uh all right why don't we blow through some of these sort of boring things uh tweak town article and video rumored to be preparing a geforce gtx 960 ti it'll be faster than a 960 but slower than a 970. and you can take that to the bank uh samstrecker posted that on the forum uh the radeon fury x2 gemini could be paper launching later this month according to wccf tech availability in q1 2016 could face potential delays i think that says everything we need to know right in the headline what will gemini be it will be two fury gpus on a single card nvidia seems to have kind of just bailed on the whole dual gpu good oh god so done with it don't want it oh there's a new gate there's a new gate there's a new gate it's bend gate again but this time check this out oh cpu bend gate intel's looking into reports but says there could be several variables at play but apparently using the rated mounting pressure aftermarket cpu coolers which by the way if you bought a skylake k series processor is all you're going to be using since there is no stock cooler that comes in the box yeah well you could buy a box cooler from someone else who isn't using it and speaking of which we need to get some box coolers we have like two 11 51 box coolers left in the end i don't know what happened to that what happened to the one i painted black what happened to like the pyramids yeah we had like we had a literal pyramid of them what happened i made a pyramid because i was like i have too many of these in my office so i built a pyramid on someone else's desk as a joke and then like didn't want them back yeah they're like all gone and now there's one that i can't figure out what it's for because it's not seven seven five it's not thirteen it's like smaller than eleven fifty five but bigger than seven seven five i don't know what the crap it is it's an intel box cooler so like no no no i don't know anyway um so yeah uh where's the black one i don't know i liked that one right actually used it quite a few times and we even because it looked really nice in b-roll yeah exactly well you know what there's probably one in this box but isn't that yep that's the black one no okay well there it is we found that one it's in the street machine um maybe that's what's causing all the problems take out the painted the painted cpu cooler it's getting paint flakes on everything um so right so haswell cpus apparently had a thicker substrate that caused them to not bend and that's that's the allegation but intel has obviously neither confirmed nor denied that this is the case up until this point um scythe has offered a solution offering new screws for their coolers to reduce the mounting pressure i didn't even know seif was still in business neither did i okay do you remember their crazy one that like went across your entire computer yes i do yeah i forget what it was called sure uh scythe giant cpu this will probably work i know that cooler master had a redunk one that um that's not the one oh yeah there it is yep there you go so this picture is from silent pc review uh just making sure i'm giving credit where credit is due so yep it's probably not all that silent no it probably is oh you just turn them all yeah if you run the fans at like 400 rpm or something stupid like that then here it is install installment i love that thing it's like yeah if you want to just you know heat up your graphics card more no look it's going to blow air on top of them okay yeah but like the surface area of this thing is so huge that the actual heating up of the air that's being done this is actually something that i that i've been meaning we should find a way to tackle this in a video because a lot of people have this misconception that like when you when you got it okay when your cpu is 70 degrees your heatsink is gonna be less than that let's say your heatsink is at 40 degrees or something like that and people have this misconception that when 25 degree air runs through those fins it's 40 degrees on the other side and and you're and you're now you're heating up the components on the other side this is not how it works at all a little bit a little not much slightly warmer airflow that came through a heatsink is still better than than nowhere nothing yeah and so i've seen people go oh my goodness linus you you mounted that cp that all in one liquid cooler backwards drawing air into the system you're now you're just you're heating your graphics card no the air that comes through that cooler is still cooler than my graphics card i was mostly joking no i know but okay no but people aren't yeah i know you know no but but people don't know this people are like oh you've got two radiators in series well we were gonna do that other the i don't know i don't want to say too much the cable no yeah no uh that's that's different i think we should tackle this no i know but it's it's a it's another one of those like people think it's the worst thing in the world right yeah that's true it's not really that it's not really that big um john had another interesting idea which i don't know if there's enough interest in um but with the thing that i was recently checking out that's all i'm going to say um i actually don't know what you're talking about either so you guys are on the same page as me motherboard orientation cooling efficiency like those silverstone ones where it's like up and the i o goes out yeah like how well does it create different things compared to it being rotated used to be a bigger deal back in the earlier days of heat pipes um they were only really effective in a certain direction so inverted motherboards would have issues where if you mounted the heap if you mounted the cooler wrong the um the the liquid wouldn't condense properly down to the hottest down to the cpu part of the heatsink and then it wouldn't actually cycle properly but it's it's not really a concern anymore um i wanted to jump back to the things don't you know a cooling medium doesn't get instantly hot after it touches something in the loop that's warm uh people who freak out if you've got your cpu and then your gpu in series in a water cooling loop the difference between the temperature of the water at the hottest point in a loop and the coldest point in the loop is except in very extreme situations with very low airflow or excuse me very low water flow probably in the neighborhood of about 0.1 to 0.2 degrees seriously it's a thing unless you're running like quarter-inch tubing on a pump that you've like found in your you know ground that's where you've got all your stuff for scrubbing yeah unless you found it in a back alley somewhere um so so no the system reaches pretty much equilibrium this is a fluid this is flowing extremely quickly yeah yeah a lot of the channels are like really narrow yeah because and like water does water does more than just uh cool by convection when it's running around in a loop like that like water can conduct heat within itself as well like it it's it it spreads really quickly it's kind of amazing um all right so what else do we got ac mechanical engineer can confirm in chat boom thank you thank you you know it's really funny because the fact that he's backing me up on this means that i'm going thank you but ninety-eight percent of the time when someone's like i'm actually a mechanical engineer it's probably it's probably nonsense on the internet because everyone like as soon as we start doing whole room water cooling our entire audience is plumbers so many plumbers apparently watch us and my favorite part was okay there was definitely some information in there that there was some okay we probably should have done that there are some great information also a ton of people claiming to be experts that had no idea what they were saying and yes we know we screwed up oh yeah it was a disaster oh yeah but not for the reasons that most people think it was a disaster like there was a lot of stuff that we did that was fine and a lot of stuff we did that was super not okay um speaking of super not okay or maybe fine geez i don't know i am dark yoshi posted this on the forum the original post here is from f.org your printer could be spying on you uh which it sounds more ominous than it probably is because the way that they're using this technology at least we think i mean at least we would have no reason to think they would be using it in any other way is to track um counterfeiting so now that affordable high quality printers are so affordable and high quality i want to jump in here real quick ant venom he's in the chat right now remember how he did the basement water cooling thing still running perfectly because he did it right by not using a steel reservoir i thought stainless would be fine i was wrong twice i thought anti-corrosive agents would make it okay i was wrong twice um okay so so basically uh right here you've got a list of the printers that do or do not display tracking dots but the the summary of this is basically um and this goes back like way to when like xerox invented the laser printer what they do is they actually use scattered pale yellow dots all over the document that they printed to give the serial number of the machine as well as i think there's some other information as well the number of yeah so xerox rep says they put the number of each machine coded into the yellow dots the dots cover less than a thousand one thousandth of a page and they can't be seen by the naked eye because it's usually yellow on white so what you have to do is you have to print a page and use a blue led flashlight and a magnifier to see if they're there and there's pretty much i mean where there's a will there's a way but there's pretty much no way to block this from happening because the yellow dots are actually something like 20 000th of a second blah blah before before the actual printing happens they're like injected so what if you don't feel yellow i don't know great question i don't know or like fill it with something else yeah i don't know so uh there you go anyway so something something that's interesting how does that actually help them i guess for counterfeiting stuff yes so if you get a bunch of counterfeit bills and you're kind of wondering okay where'd these companies come from you can inspect it try to see if the yellow dots are there figure out what printer it was from but like having the serial number of the printer is that really going to help you yeah that'll tell you what distributor it went through it'll tell you what retailer it was sold through okay so you could narrow it down to an area yep so now you can so you know it can tell you when it was sold so you can see a purchase package if it was amazon you could probably have the person's address yeah yeah so there no no it's like a big deal or even even a lot of other stores like there's lots of stores that collect customer profiles i mean i would hope that a counterfeiter would be smart enough not to fill out the customer satisfaction survey or whatever i would hope that they weren't yeah okay i would hope that they weren't but i would you know i know what you were saying yeah i was going to say to restore my faith in humanity accepts the fact that the counterfeiters are running out they're making fake money doesn't restore any of my faith in humanity so not really my point you don't want it to happen but you would hope that someone wouldn't be that stupid someone made a case for you so this was posted by numlock21 what you were talking about this just the other week oh yeah but they didn't know about that yeah yeah yeah so someone actually made a diy mac pro case i was talking to linus about maybe doing a video where i went and tried to buy like a bin or garbage can or whatever that looked kind of like it and trying to make like a the curved top thing all kinds of stuff to make it look like a mac pro and building a computer into it and then literally what the next wan show yeah it's like hey they made a case now to be clear you can't put dual fire pro cards in or anything like that it holds an sfx power supply and itx motherboard and i think like one 120 ml fan or something like that but uh yeah hey there you go i think we should try and get one for review if we can that'd be fun i'd love to just like check it out here maybe i'll make that your problem oh great get for review because it's like only available in like japan or something so if we send a message and they ignore it then we won't uh we won't go too we won't go so don't expect it yeah don't expect it but i am trying to get that flip phone actually dbrand is trying to get that flip phone because they have all the contacts to like get all the phones so um even though it's not a device are they gonna put like a more expensive skin than the actual phone on it no they they actually they aren't planning to support it they're just like being broke makes sense yep they're they're kind of bros so we're into their their bronies um let's see oh yeah just cause three suffers from terrible frame rates on the consoles this is posted over at thegamescabin.com and basically yeah the headline here is bloody awful which i guess pretty much says all you really need to know about it it was a matter of oh dang it did we just take them down i don't think so because i yeah there we go um so yeah basically they're saying yeah you know it's like especially bad when there's an explosion yes yep lots of effects on screen that is how frame rate dips work oh crap i just moved the thing around before i changed it anyways okay um but the the worst part they're actually saying too is that load screens anywhere from 30 seconds to what was the two and a half minutes two and a half minutes two and a half minutes yeah on the playstation 4. that's like morrowind xbox one level yeah that's a bummer apparently though the game's lots of fun so yeah i've heard really good things we probably should have done a performance review probably i didn't even know it came out yeah i've been so head down working on stuff i didn't yeah someone was like yeah it's tons of fun are you guys making videos like oh crap if it's already out it's probably a little late now oops uh all right what else we got here is uh we got like 10 minutes left no no no i was going to kind of wrap it up actually all right um yeah no i think that's kind of boring actually i don't really care uh there was no there was something else i wanted to do where is it i'm doing an after party are you yeah all right can i come sure i mean oh oh nope can't talk about that ah canelo's beta konami banned hideo kojima from accepting the metal gear award yeah this was like not cool it's like they it's like they desperately want to be the least popular company on the entire internet just what or you could not that would be super awesome um not allowed to attend tonight's game awards yep so i don't really have anything to say about that other than that it's konami being konami and uh oh this is interesting more just cause three news this is off the uh off geforce.com just cause three apparently straight up not compatible with multi-gpu solutions in other words a game update would be required for multi-gpu support this is straight from andrew burns from nvidia um which is sort of sort of a bummer so it's like they couldn't get it right on the consoles remember that card that like i i i laughed when he was like yeah and video stopped doing this a while ago when they put two gpus on the same card and charged you twice as much for it there's reasons yeah but you're running sli now for vr yeah okay i really hope no vr dev is stupid enough to not properly support i don't know if they're going to be able to i think vr sli is like rendering the the different eye views per card yes but wouldn't that interface with the headset more than the game i don't know because i really would have thought not sure i don't know how i would have thought if it was that simple we would have seen perfect scaling with 3d vision with sli like i'd have thought if it was as simple as like yeah i'll just render each eye with one gpu and boom perfect scaling i don't think it's simple but i'm assuming that it has more to do with the interface between the graphics cards and the headset than oh i believe it's not simple i just think nvidia is pretty smart and they've been kind of they they were beating that 3d vision drum pretty hard for a long time yeah and if it was like if it was as simple as gpu one renders the right eye gpu two renders the left eye yeah i'd have thought they would have just figured that out back then but i i don't know i don't know i am not a driver like my vr or my sli is off i just don't run it because there's so many problems and i just don't basically every single game that i play even like even pretty intense games don't need more than one 980. yeah i haven't run it since uh gtx 260. yeah that was the last time i was in a daily driver and like we stopped benchmarking sli probably about two and a half years ago just because it was like you know what there's tons of problems it's hard enough to get a video review video card review out without forcing ourselves to suffer yeah and like just like have games not work and not run properly and stuff so i mean it's one of those things nothing against nvidia nothing against amd i just i run a single graphics card because frankly there's single gpu solutions that are so powerful now someone's like yo can i have your unused 980 then it's not gonna be unused vr sli from nvidia yeah it's like i'm stoked for that i really hope it works well a thing and i'm gonna be playing the crap out of vr games if valkyrie is like and okay i almost don't even care that much about any games outside of what ccp is making i don't i haven't talked about this a ton on the show yeah but their disc throwing tron game is so much fun like you would love it no joke you you stand you stand it's have you seen the tron where they stand on the platforms and throw discs at each other and block with shields yeah it's exactly that and it's like pretty good tracking because they use connects for body tracking and stuff right and like the discs can bounce behind you and you can hear them so you have to like spin around and block it and then throw and like it's really active tons of fun i played against colton just wrecked him it would be fun to have a more athletic opponent um sorry he admittedly doesn't think he's very good at sports i don't know um but it was like 29 to 4 or something so like i don't know what to say but so much fun and then valkyrie is super fun and gunjack is super fun and then like there was there was some demo of another game there where you just like slowly walk up a mountain okay and look at birds and i'm like that's really cool and i'm sure some people will super enjoy that i definitely there is a market for that for sure it's just not me right i don't care all right well i think that's pretty much it for the show for today so i'm the last thing i'll do is i will drop this link in here if you haven't already go watch this video it is finally out on youtube it was actually i thought it was supposed to be a week earlier we actually totally screwed up our production schedule i thought it was we screwed up our production schedule on um on the super fun jousting video where we thought that for awesome stuff week for youtube we thought we had to have it done a week earlier than we did so we thought awesome stuff week was a week earlier so we released it on vessel timed to come out a week later on youtube for awesome stuff week but that was actually the following week so we had to do a simultaneous vessel release of odious lists and then delay the swag way jousting video by another week oh yeah i was going to talk more about zen and some of the stuff that they talked about right so am4 motherboards rumored to launch as early as march 2016 and they're going to be you know ddr4 like fully modernized and have both cpus and apus uh on the platform so if you guys haven't checked it out already i just linked it in the chat but this video is absolutely sick i mean this should give you some idea of what what's in store for you okay well that one that one's kind of lame because it's me versus taran but uh okay yeah there we go there's a good moment this is like way too much fun and way too dangerous i would not recommend anybody do this i'd love to shoot again yeah me too so uh yeah you guys are going to want to you guys are going to want to check that out i'll post the link one more time if you are not subscribed to channel super fun holy crap get subscribed you guys and share it we can't figure out why more people aren't watching these videos we don't understand i don't get it all right so thanks guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same bat channel bye there's a channel that has like 25 000 subscribers that did a medieval weapons fighting on swagway's video i found it on youtube somehow um and they don't even put alarms they have like the worst ever i was kind of just gonna go home okay i'm gonna go home and do my after party okay good night guys\n"