New NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series Card Analysis and Speculation

Seeing of usage right now in just a rasterized graphics test like Valley, we haven't thrown anything like like a ray tracing and DLSS added that will stress a different part of the graphics card but if to load up a game that will do that we'll probably start seeing CPU usage get thrown into the mix and it could throw the numbers right off. So, we're going to go with 340 to 350 uh it's a rough safe estimate for that 340 and 350 is what we ended up with right on with all the performance out of the way.

i do have some thoughts on the additional features since i cover a lot of streaming content on this channel. I wanted to talk a little bit about the new AV-1 decode capability of the 3000 series. 81 is an open source high efficiency video codec and what this means is using it can give better video quality at lower bit rates or better video quality for the same bit rates. NVIDIA says they are working with Twitch to enable AV1 on their servers for watching streams. It's great that NVIDIA is helping to prep Twitch to run AV1 but unless you're someone that does a lot of media streaming and Plex sort of stuff like not necessarily involved with Twitch this won't do much for streamers yet.

Twitch can only receive an H.264 stream that that's the encoding that it must receive in order for you to transmit to them. But if NVIDIA helps to fully prep them in this next generation after this or after that NVIDIA will add an AV-1 encode feature to their GPUs and that's when the game will really change especially for streamers. What this means is that a future NVENC iteration would be able to encode AV1 to send to Twitch and your streams will look a ton better at the same bit rates you won't need a ton of bitrate to make 1080p 60 look good for example. So, all this 81 stuff definitely has me excited but excited for the future.

Continuing the stream-related stuff, RTX Broadcast is finally here. I'll likely make a dedicated video checking it out but long story short it integrates background replacement and removal face tracking and RTX Voice into one program making it a pretty useful tool for streamers. Moving on something else that sounds like it'll be interesting is RTX IO.

To sum up with this, RTX IO will bypass the CPU when it comes to transferring and decompressing data from SSD into GPU vram reducing CPU overhead. This is actually really good for performance anything you can do to do that will help your performance. This is supposed to integrate with Microsoft's new Direct Storage API which brings dynamic loading of game data from drive to vram into parity with what the newly announced console started saying they would do as well. This makes me want to get a PCIe 4.0 SSD to put everything on but they're still pretty expensive.

i do have my doubts though because as far as i was aware if you have enough system RAM and don't exceed your vram limits in your games then this feature sounds like it won't get used for normal gaming situations. I guess time will tell. I'll have to keep my eye on it that was a lot of information to take.

i got one bit of info left for you guys though and that's the card is supposed to retail for 699 prior cards will probably vary wildly in price in comparison but i'll leave a link down in the description below for you guys to check out this.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enthe rtx 3080 has officially landed will it leave a giant crater with the crushed soles of 2080 and 2080 tis or will it fizzle out before even hitting the ground let's find out shall we my name is chris this is coalition gaming and today i'll be your computer technician real quick if you're new around here enter into tech pc hardware gaming stream tips tutorials news and reviews then you're in the right place hit that subscribe button and that bell so you don't miss a single upload also i stream to twitch every friday at 8pm pacific at twitch.tv coalition gaming crew so feel free to stop in drop a follow and talk some tech alrighty let's get to the video this is the rtx 3080 founders edition special thanks to nvidia for sending this out by the way thank you guys for supporting the small guy anyways this is probably one of the most unique pcb designs for a single gpu graphics card in a very long time the same could be said for the cooler a thing to note about the pcb this is not the reference design this time around nvidia's founder's edition and reference pcb are two different things so just be aware of that i never would have thought nvidia would mix a blower cooler with an axial foundation fan design like this it may not be the first of its kind to do this but it's definitely the most prominent i gotta say seems like it works well under extreme loads in my o11 dynamic case i did see the gpu get into the 80s celsius but putting my fan behind my computer had me feeling a massive amount of hot air being blown out through the rear blower section of the cooler to keep this heat out of the case i think is a very good thing anyways let's go over the tech specs real quick before hitting the benchmarks and expressing some thoughts on ray tracing dlss rtx io av1 decode and some other stuff so here it is up close rtx 3080. supposedly it's supposed to light up right here in this spot and supposed to be like a white led right here as well as i think this part supposed to light up where it says geforce rtx on here i don't think it does on the back but again this is the back this is a crazy looking back panel if you think about it you never see the back of a graphic card with a fan that's nutty like but you know i do dig it this fan is pulling air to go from below and then up through it so it's very unique design in that that situation there that regard up here different style fan but this is the one that's going to be blowing out the back so it's installed into the computer like that air is essentially going into it here and then out this way and uh so that's like how a blower fan would work it's got heat pipes that will go from here to this fan so that for for this fan to dissipate that heat and overall it is just one solidly built beast of a card three display ports in an hdmi no virtual link no usb three-point or whatever type c connector back here uh that's dead now which is kind of sad i actually use that port with an rtx card in a different computer i've also messed around with it using vr they are spec for higher power which means that you can use longer type-c cables with them and stuff like that they had advantages but the uh the standard is dead so no point in putting them on the cards which cost extra money because it raises their tdp and all sorts of stuff here we have the micro fin 12 connector so or macro fin micro 12 pin connector and well i guess it is what it is it's nice little compact connector looking more like smaller electronics sort of stuff but we're gonna do the two eight pin to single 12 pin here you're only going to get this on the founders edition card so fear not but if you do get a founder edition card you'll get an adapter it won't be the prettiest hopefully a third party can come out with something that's good that won't make your stuff catch fire the rtx 3080 uses nvidia's new ampere architecture on samsung's eight nanometer process node with second gen ray tracing cores and third gen tensor cores it has 8704 cuda cores a boost of 1710 megahertz base clock of 1440 megahertz quick note boost clock will be affected by gpu boost and likely operate at higher speeds than advertised which is nice vram 10 gigabytes of gddr6 x at 19 gigabits per second with a 320 bit memory bus for a total memory bandwidth of 760 gigabytes a second three display port 1.4 a ports and one hdmi 2.1 port on the founders edition the hdmi 2.1 port is the first on any gpu and special because it allows single cable 8k output to tvs but also high refresh rate 4k over hdmi which is awesome for a living room gaming htpc setup for sure for this video we'll be comparing the rtx 3080 to the gpu it is replacing in the product stack the rtx 2080 super quick specs on the 2080 super include 3072 cuda cores a difference greater than half of what the 3080 has boost clock of 1815 megahertz base clock of 1650 megahertz eight gigabytes of gddr6 non-xv ram at 15.5 gigabits per second and a 256 bit memory bus width resulting in 496 gigabytes a second of bandwidth all right let's hit those benchmarks test system has a ryzen 9 3900x with pbo xfr and all that auto overclocking stuff turned on 32 gigs of ddr4 3600 as well motherboard is a gigabyte aorus x570 elite so pcie 4.0 is in use here all right here they are hold on did you see that graphic score for the rtx 3080 in fire strike 40k that's insane for the most part this graphics card is seriously impressive the small increase in fps and call of duty warzone was kind of disappointing but as i kept testing it in that game it became clear that this card is craving a heavier load like 1440p or even 4k to really stretch its legs though that depends on the game still 1440p saw 41 performance increase that's awesome but what's crazier is that it's definitely not the highest percentage performance increase that i saw for example apex legends at 1080p had the rtx 3080 46 faster that trend more or less continued throughout the testing with varying results from 20 percent faster to 40 plus percent faster depending on the game and resolution but holy crap did the rtx 3080 impressing doom eternal coming in at 79 faster than the 2080 super wow so yeah this is seriously a monster's graphics card with performance like nothing we've ever seen at this tier or price point i'm not done yet though a major improvement with this card comes from additional and improved ray tracing and tensor cores so let's dip into another chart this time looking at ray tracing and dlss performance in control regarding the performance uplift here i really have one word to say dude first dlss really helped bring up the ray tracing fps performance like crazy and what was awesome is it came at almost no noticeable visual there no noticeable negative visual impact the quality performance like this at what looks like little to no visual cost feels like it could be the future especially when it comes to high resolution high refresh rate gaming anyways back to the numbers what caught my eye the most here is how playable the rtx 3080 had the game running in comparison to the 2080 super the 2080 super was no slouch though except when it came to 4k with ray tracing set to high and the lss turned off basically all gpu power no dlss cheating it averaged 5.2 frames per second now when i repeated this test with the rtx 3080 i was blown away to see 36.4 fps in the same exact scenario it doesn't sound like a lot at face value but that is a 600 percent performance improvement just think about that for a second this thing is seriously better equipped to handle ray tracing tasks compared to the last generation real quick i'm going to be doing a temperature and power draw test so here i have a unigine valley running at well 1440p and it's been running for about 10 minutes or so so you can look up here we have a gpu temp of about 82 c and uh and basically yeah we're just loading up the gpu here 83c yeah so uh looks like it's hitting about the low mid 80s with repeated loops of just raster rasterized heavy workload like valley could probably go a little higher if you start throwing in stuff that uses the tensor cores and the rt cores anyways here we are with my kilowatt and 556 watts right now five six about 560 is the highest that i saw so far and that just that's about where it seems to go now this again this is a 750 watt power supply ryzen 9 3900 x 563. whoa um so we have six fans everything rg beat out water pump two ssds and a hard drive this is sort of representative of what a sort of mid to high end system would pack and uh we just saw a little bit over 560 watts of total system power draw now let's say 560 560. yeah we'll go with 560 right now i'm going to turn off unigine valley and we're going to see where the computer settles out and then we can subtract in order to get a rough estimate of the gpu power draw there so you guys saw it looping and we only got 560ish so let's get to turning off unigine valley okay unigine valley is shutting off gpu usage is still at 70 and we are at the desktop now you can hear the gpu winding down probably and where are we going to settle out here we're gonna settle out at 2 30. this is just chilling at the desktop right now at 221 2252 okay 221 was sort of the lowest idle that we saw again not doing anything so we're going to take 560 220 minus 220 340 watts is about the difference at 219 okay 341 watts so 340 to 350 that the 350 watt tdp that they advertise for this card seems to be about spot on so that's pretty nice uh so you that is a number that you can probably be okay with as a rough estimate all right it's not a guarantee still because that stuff is designed to be somewhat flexible but 340 to 350 is what i'm seeing of usage right now in just a rasterized graphics test like valley we haven't thrown anything like like a ray tracing and dlss added that will stress a different part of the graphics card but if to load up a game that will do that we'll probably start seeing cpu usage get thrown into the mix and it could throw the numbers right off so we're going to go with 340 to 350 uh it's a rough safe estimate for that 340 and 350 is what we ended up with right on with all the performance out of the way i do have some thoughts on the additional features since i cover a lot of streaming content on this channel i wanted to talk a little bit about the new av-1 decode capability of the 3000 series 81 is an open source high efficiency video codec and what this means is using it can give better video quality at lower bit rates or better video quality for the same bit rates you're already using nvidia says they are working with twitch to enable av1 on their servers for watching streams it's great that nvidia is helping to prep twitch to run av1 but unless you're someone that does a lot of media streaming and plex sort of stuff like not necessarily involved with twitch this won't do much for streamers yet twitch can only receive an h.264 stream that that's the encoding that it must receive in order for you to transmit to them but if nvidia helps to fully prep them in this next generation after this or after that nvidia will add an av-1 encode feature to their gpus and that's when the game will really change especially for streamers what this means is that a future nvec iteration would be able to encode av1 to send to twitch and your streams will look a ton better at the same bit rates you won't need a ton of bitrate to make 1080p 60 look good for example so all this 81 stuff definitely has me excited but excited for the future continuing the stream related stuff rtx broadcast is finally here i'll likely make a dedicated video checking it out but long story short it integrates background replacement and removal face tracking and rtx voice into one program making it a pretty useful tool for streamers moving on something else that sounds like it'll be interesting is rtx io to sum up with this rtxio will bypass the cpu when it comes to transferring and decompressing data from ssd into gpu vram reducing cpu overhead is actually really good for performance anything you can do to do that will help your performance this is supposed to integrate with microsoft's new direct storage api which brings dynamic loading of game data from drive to vram into parity with what the newly announced console started saying they would do as well this makes me want to get a pcie 4.0 ssd to put everything on but they're still pretty expensive i do have my doubts though because as far as i was aware if you have enough system ram and don't exceed your vram limits in your games then this feature sounds like it won't get used for normal gaming situations i guess time will tell i'll have to keep my eye on it that was a lot of information to take i got one bit of info left for you guys though and that's the card is supposed to retail for 6.99 prior cards will probably vary wildly in price in comparison but i'll leave a link down in the description below for you guys to check out this check this out further which 3000 series card are you guys looking to get drop a comment down below let's talk about it the 30 70 for 500 is definite head turner if it holds up to the claim that it can beat a 2080 ti not having gdr6 g ddr6x is a turn off for me because if you're buying new and you're buying high-end new then you want the newest uh cutting-edge tech right but maybe they'll save the gddr6x for a ti or super variant of the 3070. we'll see what i really want to see is where an rtx 3060 lands considering it might cost 350 to 400 max but probably outperform an rtx 2080 maybe exciting times ahead everybody if you like this video make sure to hit that like button hit that subscribe button and follow on all our socials everything linked down in the description below special thanksgiving video once more for sending this house for review but of course all opinions on this are my own thanks for watching and we'll see you in the next one bye also we have a lot of related videos over here check out check them out check them all out you know it's all good lots of cool stuff lots of content come on pick one you picked one yet no yes yes oh okay okay byethe rtx 3080 has officially landed will it leave a giant crater with the crushed soles of 2080 and 2080 tis or will it fizzle out before even hitting the ground let's find out shall we my name is chris this is coalition gaming and today i'll be your computer technician real quick if you're new around here enter into tech pc hardware gaming stream tips tutorials news and reviews then you're in the right place hit that subscribe button and that bell so you don't miss a single upload also i stream to twitch every friday at 8pm pacific at twitch.tv coalition gaming crew so feel free to stop in drop a follow and talk some tech alrighty let's get to the video this is the rtx 3080 founders edition special thanks to nvidia for sending this out by the way thank you guys for supporting the small guy anyways this is probably one of the most unique pcb designs for a single gpu graphics card in a very long time the same could be said for the cooler a thing to note about the pcb this is not the reference design this time around nvidia's founder's edition and reference pcb are two different things so just be aware of that i never would have thought nvidia would mix a blower cooler with an axial foundation fan design like this it may not be the first of its kind to do this but it's definitely the most prominent i gotta say seems like it works well under extreme loads in my o11 dynamic case i did see the gpu get into the 80s celsius but putting my fan behind my computer had me feeling a massive amount of hot air being blown out through the rear blower section of the cooler to keep this heat out of the case i think is a very good thing anyways let's go over the tech specs real quick before hitting the benchmarks and expressing some thoughts on ray tracing dlss rtx io av1 decode and some other stuff so here it is up close rtx 3080. supposedly it's supposed to light up right here in this spot and supposed to be like a white led right here as well as i think this part supposed to light up where it says geforce rtx on here i don't think it does on the back but again this is the back this is a crazy looking back panel if you think about it you never see the back of a graphic card with a fan that's nutty like but you know i do dig it this fan is pulling air to go from below and then up through it so it's very unique design in that that situation there that regard up here different style fan but this is the one that's going to be blowing out the back so it's installed into the computer like that air is essentially going into it here and then out this way and uh so that's like how a blower fan would work it's got heat pipes that will go from here to this fan so that for for this fan to dissipate that heat and overall it is just one solidly built beast of a card three display ports in an hdmi no virtual link no usb three-point or whatever type c connector back here uh that's dead now which is kind of sad i actually use that port with an rtx card in a different computer i've also messed around with it using vr they are spec for higher power which means that you can use longer type-c cables with them and stuff like that they had advantages but the uh the standard is dead so no point in putting them on the cards which cost extra money because it raises their tdp and all sorts of stuff here we have the micro fin 12 connector so or macro fin micro 12 pin connector and well i guess it is what it is it's nice little compact connector looking more like smaller electronics sort of stuff but we're gonna do the two eight pin to single 12 pin here you're only going to get this on the founders edition card so fear not but if you do get a founder edition card you'll get an adapter it won't be the prettiest hopefully a third party can come out with something that's good that won't make your stuff catch fire the rtx 3080 uses nvidia's new ampere architecture on samsung's eight nanometer process node with second gen ray tracing cores and third gen tensor cores it has 8704 cuda cores a boost of 1710 megahertz base clock of 1440 megahertz quick note boost clock will be affected by gpu boost and likely operate at higher speeds than advertised which is nice vram 10 gigabytes of gddr6 x at 19 gigabits per second with a 320 bit memory bus for a total memory bandwidth of 760 gigabytes a second three display port 1.4 a ports and one hdmi 2.1 port on the founders edition the hdmi 2.1 port is the first on any gpu and special because it allows single cable 8k output to tvs but also high refresh rate 4k over hdmi which is awesome for a living room gaming htpc setup for sure for this video we'll be comparing the rtx 3080 to the gpu it is replacing in the product stack the rtx 2080 super quick specs on the 2080 super include 3072 cuda cores a difference greater than half of what the 3080 has boost clock of 1815 megahertz base clock of 1650 megahertz eight gigabytes of gddr6 non-xv ram at 15.5 gigabits per second and a 256 bit memory bus width resulting in 496 gigabytes a second of bandwidth all right let's hit those benchmarks test system has a ryzen 9 3900x with pbo xfr and all that auto overclocking stuff turned on 32 gigs of ddr4 3600 as well motherboard is a gigabyte aorus x570 elite so pcie 4.0 is in use here all right here they are hold on did you see that graphic score for the rtx 3080 in fire strike 40k that's insane for the most part this graphics card is seriously impressive the small increase in fps and call of duty warzone was kind of disappointing but as i kept testing it in that game it became clear that this card is craving a heavier load like 1440p or even 4k to really stretch its legs though that depends on the game still 1440p saw 41 performance increase that's awesome but what's crazier is that it's definitely not the highest percentage performance increase that i saw for example apex legends at 1080p had the rtx 3080 46 faster that trend more or less continued throughout the testing with varying results from 20 percent faster to 40 plus percent faster depending on the game and resolution but holy crap did the rtx 3080 impressing doom eternal coming in at 79 faster than the 2080 super wow so yeah this is seriously a monster's graphics card with performance like nothing we've ever seen at this tier or price point i'm not done yet though a major improvement with this card comes from additional and improved ray tracing and tensor cores so let's dip into another chart this time looking at ray tracing and dlss performance in control regarding the performance uplift here i really have one word to say dude first dlss really helped bring up the ray tracing fps performance like crazy and what was awesome is it came at almost no noticeable visual there no noticeable negative visual impact the quality performance like this at what looks like little to no visual cost feels like it could be the future especially when it comes to high resolution high refresh rate gaming anyways back to the numbers what caught my eye the most here is how playable the rtx 3080 had the game running in comparison to the 2080 super the 2080 super was no slouch though except when it came to 4k with ray tracing set to high and the lss turned off basically all gpu power no dlss cheating it averaged 5.2 frames per second now when i repeated this test with the rtx 3080 i was blown away to see 36.4 fps in the same exact scenario it doesn't sound like a lot at face value but that is a 600 percent performance improvement just think about that for a second this thing is seriously better equipped to handle ray tracing tasks compared to the last generation real quick i'm going to be doing a temperature and power draw test so here i have a unigine valley running at well 1440p and it's been running for about 10 minutes or so so you can look up here we have a gpu temp of about 82 c and uh and basically yeah we're just loading up the gpu here 83c yeah so uh looks like it's hitting about the low mid 80s with repeated loops of just raster rasterized heavy workload like valley could probably go a little higher if you start throwing in stuff that uses the tensor cores and the rt cores anyways here we are with my kilowatt and 556 watts right now five six about 560 is the highest that i saw so far and that just that's about where it seems to go now this again this is a 750 watt power supply ryzen 9 3900 x 563. whoa um so we have six fans everything rg beat out water pump two ssds and a hard drive this is sort of representative of what a sort of mid to high end system would pack and uh we just saw a little bit over 560 watts of total system power draw now let's say 560 560. yeah we'll go with 560 right now i'm going to turn off unigine valley and we're going to see where the computer settles out and then we can subtract in order to get a rough estimate of the gpu power draw there so you guys saw it looping and we only got 560ish so let's get to turning off unigine valley okay unigine valley is shutting off gpu usage is still at 70 and we are at the desktop now you can hear the gpu winding down probably and where are we going to settle out here we're gonna settle out at 2 30. this is just chilling at the desktop right now at 221 2252 okay 221 was sort of the lowest idle that we saw again not doing anything so we're going to take 560 220 minus 220 340 watts is about the difference at 219 okay 341 watts so 340 to 350 that the 350 watt tdp that they advertise for this card seems to be about spot on so that's pretty nice uh so you that is a number that you can probably be okay with as a rough estimate all right it's not a guarantee still because that stuff is designed to be somewhat flexible but 340 to 350 is what i'm seeing of usage right now in just a rasterized graphics test like valley we haven't thrown anything like like a ray tracing and dlss added that will stress a different part of the graphics card but if to load up a game that will do that we'll probably start seeing cpu usage get thrown into the mix and it could throw the numbers right off so we're going to go with 340 to 350 uh it's a rough safe estimate for that 340 and 350 is what we ended up with right on with all the performance out of the way i do have some thoughts on the additional features since i cover a lot of streaming content on this channel i wanted to talk a little bit about the new av-1 decode capability of the 3000 series 81 is an open source high efficiency video codec and what this means is using it can give better video quality at lower bit rates or better video quality for the same bit rates you're already using nvidia says they are working with twitch to enable av1 on their servers for watching streams it's great that nvidia is helping to prep twitch to run av1 but unless you're someone that does a lot of media streaming and plex sort of stuff like not necessarily involved with twitch this won't do much for streamers yet twitch can only receive an h.264 stream that that's the encoding that it must receive in order for you to transmit to them but if nvidia helps to fully prep them in this next generation after this or after that nvidia will add an av-1 encode feature to their gpus and that's when the game will really change especially for streamers what this means is that a future nvec iteration would be able to encode av1 to send to twitch and your streams will look a ton better at the same bit rates you won't need a ton of bitrate to make 1080p 60 look good for example so all this 81 stuff definitely has me excited but excited for the future continuing the stream related stuff rtx broadcast is finally here i'll likely make a dedicated video checking it out but long story short it integrates background replacement and removal face tracking and rtx voice into one program making it a pretty useful tool for streamers moving on something else that sounds like it'll be interesting is rtx io to sum up with this rtxio will bypass the cpu when it comes to transferring and decompressing data from ssd into gpu vram reducing cpu overhead is actually really good for performance anything you can do to do that will help your performance this is supposed to integrate with microsoft's new direct storage api which brings dynamic loading of game data from drive to vram into parity with what the newly announced console started saying they would do as well this makes me want to get a pcie 4.0 ssd to put everything on but they're still pretty expensive i do have my doubts though because as far as i was aware if you have enough system ram and don't exceed your vram limits in your games then this feature sounds like it won't get used for normal gaming situations i guess time will tell i'll have to keep my eye on it that was a lot of information to take i got one bit of info left for you guys though and that's the card is supposed to retail for 6.99 prior cards will probably vary wildly in price in comparison but i'll leave a link down in the description below for you guys to check out this check this out further which 3000 series card are you guys looking to get drop a comment down below let's talk about it the 30 70 for 500 is definite head turner if it holds up to the claim that it can beat a 2080 ti not having gdr6 g ddr6x is a turn off for me because if you're buying new and you're buying high-end new then you want the newest uh cutting-edge tech right but maybe they'll save the gddr6x for a ti or super variant of the 3070. we'll see what i really want to see is where an rtx 3060 lands considering it might cost 350 to 400 max but probably outperform an rtx 2080 maybe exciting times ahead everybody if you like this video make sure to hit that like button hit that subscribe button and follow on all our socials everything linked down in the description below special thanksgiving video once more for sending this house for review but of course all opinions on this are my own thanks for watching and we'll see you in the next one bye also we have a lot of related videos over here check out check them out check them all out you know it's all good lots of cool stuff lots of content come on pick one you picked one yet no yes yes oh okay okay bye\n"