i3-8350K - The Journey to 5GHz - Overclocking Guide

The New CPU Benchmark Results: A Comprehensive Analysis

I recently had the opportunity to test and benchmark several new CPUs, including the Intel Core i3-8350K, the Rison v1600, and various overclocked versions of these processors. The results are quite impressive, and I'd like to share them with you in this article.

One of the standout performers was the Rison v1600, which outperformed the i3 8350K in multi-threaded performance by a significant margin. Specifically, the Rison v1600 scored 3100 on multi-threaded benchmarks, while the i3 8350K scored 1841. This difference is quite striking, and it's clear that the Rison v1600 has a significant advantage when it comes to multi-threading.

However, when it came to single-core performance, the Intel Core i3-8350K actually outperformed the Rison v1600. The i3 8350K scored 481 on single-core benchmarks, while the Rison v1600 scored 364. This is an interesting result, and it highlights the fact that not all workloads are created equal.

In terms of overclocking, I was able to push the Intel Core i7-4790K to a impressive 4.8 GHz, which outperformed the overclocked Rison v1600 by a significant margin. Specifically, the overclocked i7-4790K scored 3835 on multi-threaded benchmarks, while the overclocked Rison v1600 scored 2729.

These results are quite striking, and they highlight the importance of understanding the specific needs of your workload when it comes to choosing a CPU. If you're doing 3D animations or video editing, for example, the Rison v1600 is clearly the better choice due to its superior multi-threaded performance.

On the other hand, if you're playing games that don't use more than 4 threads, the Intel Core i3-8350K may actually be a faster processor due to its single-core performance advantage. This is because many modern games are designed to take full advantage of multi-core processors, but they often have limited use for single-core workloads.

Overall, these results highlight the importance of understanding the specific needs of your workload when it comes to choosing a CPU. While the Rison v1600 and overclocked i7-4790K may be better choices in certain situations, the Intel Core i3-8350K still has its advantages due to its single-core performance.

The Best Performance for the Dollar

One of the most interesting results from these benchmarks was that the Rison v1600 offered the best performance for the dollar. Specifically, at a price point of around $170, the Rison v1600 offers incredible multi-threaded performance, with scores that are comparable to those of more expensive CPUs.

In terms of clock speed and instructions per clock cycle, the Rison v1600 is clearly one of the best CPUs available on the market. Its 4.8 GHz clock speed and high IPC (instructions per clock cycle) make it an excellent choice for workloads that require both multi-threaded performance and single-core performance.

For most people, however, there are better CPU options available. Specifically, the Intel Core i5 and i7 processors offer similar performance to the Rison v1600 at a lower price point. These CPUs may not have the same level of multi-threaded performance as the Rison v1600, but they still offer excellent overall performance.

However, for people who are specifically looking for 4 cores and 4 threads, the Rison v1600 is an excellent choice. Its superior multi-threaded performance makes it a great option for workloads that require heavy multi-threading, such as video editing or 3D animations.

Target Audience for the Rison v1600

So who is the target audience for the Rison v1600? For people who are playing games that don't use more than 4 threads, such as CSGO, Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch, and World of Tanks, the Rison v1600 may actually be a faster processor due to its single-core performance advantage.

In fact, I plan to test these games in part 4 of this video series, which will include live gameplay and benchmark results. These results will show just how well the Rison v1600 performs in these workloads, and they will highlight the importance of clock speed and instructions per clock cycle for gaming performance.

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Conclusion

In conclusion, the Rison v1600 offers incredible multi-threaded performance at a relatively affordable price point. Its 4.8 GHz clock speed and high IPC make it an excellent choice for workloads that require both multi-threaded performance and single-core performance.

However, for most people, there are better CPU options available. Specifically, the Intel Core i5 and i7 processors offer similar performance to the Rison v1600 at a lower price point. These CPUs may not have the same level of multi-threaded performance as the Rison v1600, but they still offer excellent overall performance.

Ultimately, the best CPU for you will depend on your specific needs and workloads. I hope this article has helped to inform your decision-making process and provide a better understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each processor.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello and welcome to tech deals overclocking the i3 83 50k and system Ram in this video I'm gonna show you how to overclock what settings to change I'm gonna show you how much additional power and heat that produces I'm gonna show you some benchmarks and talk to you a little bit about the pros and cons of overclocking now this is part 3 in a video series linked down in the video description below is the playlist of all the videos the first one is two parts overview part selection the choices the total budget $800 is what the system put cost to put together part two is a detailed why look into the CPU many people ask the question why in the world would you buy an i 383 50k isn't something like an i-5 8400 or horizon 5 1600 a much better buy you'd think and for many people it would be but there are people and there are use cases that make this CPU actually a better choice watch the first 10 second video if you'd like a detailed discussion there we're not gonna rehash that topic here because I already did that instead we're strictly looking at overclocking in this video now what I'm about to show you would in fact apply to the i-5 8600 K and the i7 8700 K to a point you should have better cooling and maybe one step up on the motherboard if I was doing an i7 8700 K a Z 370 Taichi board from asrock for example might be a better choice than the killer SLI the killer I saw is a great board but if you're spending three hundred and fifty dollars on the CPU by a next grade up a motherboard it comes with some better features a better power delivery etc but for this CPU and honestly maybe even an i5 8600 K this is a good all-around board as for system ram I deliberately put ddr4 2133 in here this is Corsair Vengeance opx but it is stock 21:33 but we're gonna overclock that I'm gonna show you that in the BIOS and talk about my experiences there full disclosure it doesn't make a huge difference to performance running it faster doesn't change the overall performance by as much as many people think it's a little bit it makes the system a little quicker but it isn't a huge jump the real jump is in overclocking the CPU Before we jump into the BIOS and start showing you overclocking I need to give you a big overclocking disclaimer number one you can actually destroy your hardware doing this if you don't know what you're doing and you change things that you don't understand what you're changing I'm not talking about the system not posting or not booting your blue screening I'm saying you can actually destroy your chip feed too much voltage through it and you'll fry it you can damage motherboard components by turning up the voltage on motherboard components to high voltage is what kills the stuff generally not clock speed and not temps there is a temp protector on this unless you turn it off manually which I hope you wouldn't that basically will auto throttle the chip if it gets too hot and will physically shut the Machine down if the temps exceed a certain threshold a certain margin for safety so modern-day systems will generally not fry due to temperature fifteen years ago they would overclocking the original iPhones for example you could quite literally cook those chips but those days are passed these have thermal protection they don't necessarily have voltage protection in my opinion the maximum safe voltage is 1.35 volts that's on the CPUs v core you can go higher you can give the CPU 1.5 volts if you want I won't I did one point four five volts briefly for testing just to see how high I could get it but even that made me have been uncomfortable one point four is the most I normally go for my overclocking testing I did one point four or five on this and then I ended up bringing about down to one point three five there's a huge temp and power delivery increase as you increase the voltage and certainly with a hundred and twenty millimeter liquid cooler there's a limit to how much you're gonna be able to do voltage wise at 240 at one point for one point four or five would be more useful but that's too much money to spend on a four core for threat i3 instead what I look for is the best clock speed I can get at about one point three five volts that's where I have my i7 8700 K all my test bench overclocked - that's what I overclocked my AMD rise in chips - I find the maximum clock speed they'll take at one point three five volts as a general rule I don't mess around with most of the other motherboard settings they tend to behave a bit differently from board to board if you want to tweak and play with it by all means just keep in mind that the more advanced settings you dive into in the BIOS the more chance there is that you turn something on or off that physically destroys your chip I personally don't think another 100 megahertz is worth it but that decision is yours the other point I want to bring up is every chip is individual and unique my results will not be your results your motherboard will be different your physical chip is different your cooling may be different you'd the ambient temperature in your room may be different and of course every chip is slightly different in manufacturer one of you might get four point seven the next guy might get 5.0 different chips different boards different setups different biases different updates there's many different reasons why you may get different results don't watch this video and expect to exactly replicate my results and assume it must work just because it worked for me you might get better you might get worse everybody's results are individual and unique and with that big disclaimer out of the way on to the overclocking this is the first screen you'll see when you press the delete key and go into the BIOS at least on this motherboard it's gonna look a little bit different on each board the first thing we want to do is we want to change the XMP profile to either profile one or two depending upon your system Ram it's currently set to auto so we're gonna click on that and change it all this really does on this Ram since it's ddr4 2133 is ensure that the various settings are what the RAM is expecting in this case a CL rating of 13 now to make further changes we have to press the f6 key f7 on a suits and other boards but f6 to go into the Advanced Mode come one over to the overclock or Tweaker and come down to the DRAM configuration again this looks different on every motherboard so you kind of have to read what's on the screen and figure it out from there which is why you can't make a universal overclocking guide simply because they look different now I'm actually taking the XMP profile out here because we're gonna be doing manual overclocking if you're not then just leave it in I'm coming down here to DRAM frequency and I'm gonna set the RAM speed to 20 666 you can see there are a huge number of choices here yes you could theoretically select 3200 but it's not likely to work on RAM that's sold as 2133 so I'm setting it to 20 666 now the auto mode says 15 and it might work but I can actually tell you from experience this doesn't work you do I did have to manually set these so I'm setting it to a seal rating of 15 which is a little bit slower than the default of 13 but it's also running faster I set the Rast the tear asseline to 38 adding 2 to that as well and making the right recovery time 17 you might ask why did I pick these numbers why 15 15 17 38 it's kind of out of order there and the simple answer is that's what worked I played around with a number of settings here leaving on Auto did not work it was not stable and just setting it to 15 15 36 16 didn't work either so you're gonna have to play around with it and find the settings that work for you and it may require multiple reboots and some stress testing to find a setting that in fact does work this is what works for me on this particular Ram at this point you just press f10 to save your settings most boards or f10 these days to save the settings and reboot and it should save them that was system RAM overclocking you can do it and if it's stable awesome you get a free performance boost although as I said earlier it is not a large performance jump the truth of the matter is and I played around with various benchmarks it's very very hard to tell the difference between 21 33 and 2666 unless you're really looking for it on a day to day use of the system it's pretty small that being said the only reason I think that applies is if you either find a really good deal on 21 33 or you already had it sitting on the shelf as I did I had this sitting over there for quite some time if you are buying new Ram today the price difference between 21 33 and even ddr4 3000 is very small do yourself a favor just buy ddr4 3000 and save yourself a world of trouble set XMP in the BIOS and don't worry about it and with that being said let's move on to the CPU overclocking here we are in the system BIOS when you press the delete or f2 key this the first thing you see there are several ways to overclock most motherboards you can see here we're running at the default of 4 gigahertz there is an easy overclock option and most modern boards that support overclocking have such a feature it does set the fan speeds to full speed and when we go to Advanced Mode you're gonna see what it changes over here going to CPU configuration it sets the CPU to 4.4 gigahertz instead of 4 gigahertz it sets the CPU cache ratio to 37 and it changes the voltage which will go look at in a minute the AVX ratio it sets to 4 which is actually a negative number to make some other changes down here as well whether they make a difference or not I'm not entirely convinced they do coming down to voltage it does increase the voltage to 1.3 to 1.3 to is pretty aggressive that's a lot of voltage for 4.4 gigahertz it probably would work at Auto or stock voltage at 4.4 that's not a huge overclock but when you have the automatic overclocking settings that the motherboard companies provide they tend to be fairly conservative because they want it to work for everybody but it produces needless noise temperature heat and wear so we're gonna turn that off and I'm gonna show you two other ways to overclock besides just hitting that easy button first things first we're gonna manually set the voltage to 1.3 5 volts leaving the load line calibration set to level 1 which is where I personally leave it on most of my configurations we're gonna come up here to the CPU itself and we're gonna set an all core number here of however much we want our clocks be to be times 100 so 45 would be 4 point 5 gigahertz 46 would be 4 point 6 gigahertz 47 would be 4 point 7 gigahertz you can see the changes in real time out there it's not actually making them in real time this is just telling you what the target is going to be now 48 or a 4.8 gigahertz overclock is really nice I'm leaving everything else down here auto the only other change I'm gonna make is to increase the AVX ratio offset now I played around with a lot of different settings here I'm showing you the final best numbers that I got to rather than show you 22 different settings this is worked for my chip a negative ratio of three for a VX so when the FPU or ABX instructions are being used it'll actually be four point five instead of four point eight everything else down here is left on auto this worked right here one point three five volts for a 4.8 gigahertz clock speed negative AV x3 this was stable this is where i benchmarked at this chip would not do five gigahertz regardless of settings even one point four five volts didn't make a difference so we come back here and you'll notice it says four gigahertz because we haven't changed anything yet f10 save configuration changes and reboot and we're gonna press delete and come back into the bios once we're back in the bios I'm going to press f6 to go into Advanced Mode it says four gigahertz up there because it's set to boot to the non turbo mode when you first boot the system it'll jump to the overclock settings once you actually get booted up but as you can see here in the CPU configuration it saved it there's 4.8 gigahertz there but instead we're gonna choose this this is another way to auto overclock without using the turbo button and this gives you a choice of four point four four point six or four point eight gigahertz notice it makes similar changes to the four point four to the turbo button in the easy mode everything here is pretty similar a BX offset is minus eight because it's four point eight so essentially what asrock is doing with their pre settings is they're saying a VX shouldn't have any overclock at all I found mine ran at four point five just fine but yours may not this is high it works one point three nine volts is a ton of voltage and in my particular case was not necessary again they're putting in settings that they consider to be functional for most people one hundred and twenty millimeter liquid coolers a little bit thin for that much overclock however I'd want a 240 if I was gonna do one point three nine volts one point three five was better now setting it to the four point six gigahertz Auto overclock you can see down here a VX ratio offset was six because forty six minus six is forty and you'll see here it goes to the one point three five volts that I picked for my four point eight gigahertz overclocked four point eight may or may not work for you at one point three five it may take one point three it may not work at all it may work at less you might get five gigahertz out of your chip you have to be willing to either play around with these settings take the defaults or don't overclock but these are three different ways to overclock in the BIOS I am generally not a fan of built-in overclocking or Auto overclocking or presets because they tend to sort of use the brute force method extra voltage and very conservative settings all things considered to try to give you something that will work for most people after all as rock doesn't want to get boards returned from people saying I set the overclocking in the BIOS and it didn't work your board must be faulty well they were perhaps aggressive on their settings so they're not but you pay for in terms of temp and power consumption and possibly shorter chip life as you saw there at one point three nine volts one notch below one point four on the four point eight gigahertz preset but again every board is going to be different if you get in a Sioux sport or an msi board they will have similar settings but there'll be different speeds different voltages different presets each company doesn't differently I'm more a fan of doing it yourself and finding a safe voltage and then just getting the best clock speed out of it that you can your system do it any way you like push it harder get more performance a little bit more risk more temp perhaps shorter system life the next side-by-side comparison that I'm going to show you is a 264 stress testing a 264 goes beyond what just running a game would do it actually uses all the cores this particular test does not have the FPU and ABX instructions engaged the typical use for this sort of system isn't going to use those an i7 or a risin seven or a thread Ripper or skylake X would be more likely to use a B X if you actually need a B X instructions you need a lot more CPU than this so I turn them off to show you a typical use case and it correlates with the game performance in short side by side 4 gigahertz to 4.8 gigahertz temp and power consumption here you can see the a 264 stress test CPU only between 4 gigahertz stock clock on the left and 4.8 gigahertz overclocked on the right now this is a normal configuration you'd expect for gaming and general online use the FPU is turned off simply because that's generally not stressed all that much which is why the game benchmark video shows the games at four point eight not four point five because you don't really use it that much so the ABX off set doesn't doesn't come into play that much the temperatures here also coincide with what you'll see in the game performance videos much more take a look at the temperatures we're running around fifty degrees Celsius at four gigahertz versus seventy degrees Celsius at four point eight this is a fairly large temperature increase same cooler same everything the difference is the voltage clock speed power consumption etc speaking of power consumption come all the way down to the power section we're using about forty watts on the CPU at four gigahertz and 57 Watts at four point eight this is nearly not quite but nearly a 50 percent power consumption increase for an 800 megahertz clock speed increase intel sells this at four gigahertz for a reason that's the efficiency curve that's where it's happy at best temps best power delivery it's the most efficient and frankly some of you may choose to run it there but if you do want to overclock just be aware it does pull more power and makes a lot more heat fifty percent increase in power consumption or close to it might sound bad for just a 20 percent increase in performance but let's look at that in real numbers it's less than 20 watts of power it's 2 or 3 LED light bulbs it's a third of an incandescent light bulb for a 20 percent performance increase depending upon what you're doing you may very well appreciate it if you're only doing it for maybe 2-3 hours a day it really isn't that much all things considered so it sounds worse than it is the temps are real it is a real solid honest-to-goodness temp difference and there is a fan noise difference which don't really have the equipment to measure but it is louder when it's overclocked than when it is stock so if silence is what you want then either overclocking is not for you or this coolers not for you a Noctua or a be quiet cooler would be quieter than this although not less expensive the good ones of those are in the 50 to 60 dollar price range with comparable cooling but they will be more silent that being said if content creation and non-gaming performance is important to you you've come to the wrong video this is the wrong CPU this is for gaming this is for the games I'm gonna show you in part 4 of this video series I am however having said that going to show you a couple of benchmarks comparing it to some other CPUs including some six core 12 thread chips and show you how well it compares but the truth is if you're building this it should be for gaming so watch out for part 4 for that and with no further ado let's take a look at the benchmarks on this chip Cinebench r15 the ultimate multi-threaded test 3d rendering really shows the effect of all the cores and threads the CPU has at stock speed a score of 666 and at 4.8 gigahertz we had a score of 790 this is an eighteen point six percent increase on a just under 20% clock speed increase so it scales in terms of clock speed very very closely of course it's nearly a 50% power increase but it does scale with clock speed next up we have CPU Z a very popular free tool you can download yourself same results here a nearly 20% clock speed difference produces a roughly 20% performance difference single threaded versus multi-threaded stock versus overclocked you get what you pay for essentially 20% more clock speed gives you 20% more CPU performance but again at a much higher power consumption this next chart compares the performance of several generations older i7 chips and I specifically picked them because they're sort of the peak or top of the line from the previous generation notice that it's stock speed and I 383 50k beats an i7 2604 'men see I 7 is a 4 core 8 thread processor the i3 is a 4 core for thread chip but there has been so much change in 6 generations of processors that it doesn't make a difference the i3 still beats it when it comes to single core performance the i3 even beats an i7 40 790 K which has a single quarter bow to 4.4 gigahertz and yet the i3 still beats it for generations of improvements architectural improvements and other things make the difference but the 4th gen i7 does beat it in multi-threaded and then of course in i7 7700 K beats it in both but not by much in single core performance the new systems really are nice I also included a Rison v 1600 which is a similar price to the i3 8350 K in terms of multi-threaded performance of course the Rison v crushes it 3100 vs 1841 it's not even close if you're doing 3d animations and a bench video editing the rise in v 1600 obliterates it look at the single core performance 364 vs. 481 the i3 crushes it in single core which is why if you're playing games that don't use more than 4 threads the i3 is a much faster processor showing you the same chart but showing you the overclocked results of the i3 now please note that the rest of them have not changed they're still the stock and I understand that but I don't have recent overclocking results of each of those on the current version of cpu-z but I do want to show you how much of a difference that overclocking makes if performance matters to you notice that we have roughly the same multi-threaded performance between an i7 4790k again it's docked to be sure versus an overclock to a 383 50k that's pretty cool single core performance it's the fastest chip we have here and it just goes to show what 4.8 gigahertz really does for you if per core performance is what really matters those benchmark results tell a couple of interesting stories in short if you don't need more than 4 cores and 4 threads if you have a workload or play the kind of games that will be in part 4 of this series more on that in a second then this is actually the best performance for the dollar if you're looking for as close to 5 gigahertz as you can get while spending the least amount of money as is reasonable now you can change coolers cases etc but the chip and some type of motherboard like this in the hundred to one hundred and fifty dollar range is the best per giga hurt her core performance you can buy now the average person probably is better off with either an i5 or i7 or a risin 5 or a risin 7 I don't think risin threes and a threes are the best value for most people but for people within a specific demographic it makes a lot of sense now just to be absolutely clear if you want to play csgo Rainbow six siege overwatch League of Legends World of Tanks world of warships dota 2 if that's what you want to play then you want to watch part 4 of this video series because none of those games need an 8 core 16 thread chip and all of those games will be slower on a Rison 7 2700 then they will on this they really will be so this wins because of clock speed and instructions per clock cycle it may not be the best all-around CPU but it's the best CPU you can get for 4.8 gigahertz on 4 cores 4 threads at 170 dollars at least in the fall of 2018 when I'm recording this I mentioned part 4 of this video I've 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this is part 3 in a video series linked down in the video description below is the playlist of all the videos the first one is two parts overview part selection the choices the total budget $800 is what the system put cost to put together part two is a detailed why look into the CPU many people ask the question why in the world would you buy an i 383 50k isn't something like an i-5 8400 or horizon 5 1600 a much better buy you'd think and for many people it would be but there are people and there are use cases that make this CPU actually a better choice watch the first 10 second video if you'd like a detailed discussion there we're not gonna rehash that topic here because I already did that instead we're strictly looking at overclocking in this video now what I'm about to show you would in fact apply to the i-5 8600 K and the i7 8700 K to a point you should have better cooling and maybe one step up on the motherboard if I was doing an i7 8700 K a Z 370 Taichi board from asrock for example might be a better choice than the killer SLI the killer I saw is a great board but if you're spending three hundred and fifty dollars on the CPU by a next grade up a motherboard it comes with some better features a better power delivery etc but for this CPU and honestly maybe even an i5 8600 K this is a good all-around board as for system ram I deliberately put ddr4 2133 in here this is Corsair Vengeance opx but it is stock 21:33 but we're gonna overclock that I'm gonna show you that in the BIOS and talk about my experiences there full disclosure it doesn't make a huge difference to performance running it faster doesn't change the overall performance by as much as many people think it's a little bit it makes the system a little quicker but it isn't a huge jump the real jump is in overclocking the CPU Before we jump into the BIOS and start showing you overclocking I need to give you a big overclocking disclaimer number one you can actually destroy your hardware doing this if you don't know what you're doing and you change things that you don't understand what you're changing I'm not talking about the system not posting or not booting your blue screening I'm saying you can actually destroy your chip feed too much voltage through it and you'll fry it you can damage motherboard components by turning up the voltage on motherboard components to high voltage is what kills the stuff generally not clock speed and not temps there is a temp protector on this unless you turn it off manually which I hope you wouldn't that basically will auto throttle the chip if it gets too hot and will physically shut the Machine down if the temps exceed a certain threshold a certain margin for safety so modern-day systems will generally not fry due to temperature fifteen years ago they would overclocking the original iPhones for example you could quite literally cook those chips but those days are passed these have thermal protection they don't necessarily have voltage protection in my opinion the maximum safe voltage is 1.35 volts that's on the CPUs v core you can go higher you can give the CPU 1.5 volts if you want I won't I did one point four five volts briefly for testing just to see how high I could get it but even that made me have been uncomfortable one point four is the most I normally go for my overclocking testing I did one point four or five on this and then I ended up bringing about down to one point three five there's a huge temp and power delivery increase as you increase the voltage and certainly with a hundred and twenty millimeter liquid cooler there's a limit to how much you're gonna be able to do voltage wise at 240 at one point for one point four or five would be more useful but that's too much money to spend on a four core for threat i3 instead what I look for is the best clock speed I can get at about one point three five volts that's where I have my i7 8700 K all my test bench overclocked - that's what I overclocked my AMD rise in chips - I find the maximum clock speed they'll take at one point three five volts as a general rule I don't mess around with most of the other motherboard settings they tend to behave a bit differently from board to board if you want to tweak and play with it by all means just keep in mind that the more advanced settings you dive into in the BIOS the more chance there is that you turn something on or off that physically destroys your chip I personally don't think another 100 megahertz is worth it but that decision is yours the other point I want to bring up is every chip is individual and unique my results will not be your results your motherboard will be different your physical chip is different your cooling may be different you'd the ambient temperature in your room may be different and of course every chip is slightly different in manufacturer one of you might get four point seven the next guy might get 5.0 different chips different boards different setups different biases different updates there's many different reasons why you may get different results don't watch this video and expect to exactly replicate my results and assume it must work just because it worked for me you might get better you might get worse everybody's results are individual and unique and with that big disclaimer out of the way on to the overclocking this is the first screen you'll see when you press the delete key and go into the BIOS at least on this motherboard it's gonna look a little bit different on each board the first thing we want to do is we want to change the XMP profile to either profile one or two depending upon your system Ram it's currently set to auto so we're gonna click on that and change it all this really does on this Ram since it's ddr4 2133 is ensure that the various settings are what the RAM is expecting in this case a CL rating of 13 now to make further changes we have to press the f6 key f7 on a suits and other boards but f6 to go into the Advanced Mode come one over to the overclock or Tweaker and come down to the DRAM configuration again this looks different on every motherboard so you kind of have to read what's on the screen and figure it out from there which is why you can't make a universal overclocking guide simply because they look different now I'm actually taking the XMP profile out here because we're gonna be doing manual overclocking if you're not then just leave it in I'm coming down here to DRAM frequency and I'm gonna set the RAM speed to 20 666 you can see there are a huge number of choices here yes you could theoretically select 3200 but it's not likely to work on RAM that's sold as 2133 so I'm setting it to 20 666 now the auto mode says 15 and it might work but I can actually tell you from experience this doesn't work you do I did have to manually set these so I'm setting it to a seal rating of 15 which is a little bit slower than the default of 13 but it's also running faster I set the Rast the tear asseline to 38 adding 2 to that as well and making the right recovery time 17 you might ask why did I pick these numbers why 15 15 17 38 it's kind of out of order there and the simple answer is that's what worked I played around with a number of settings here leaving on Auto did not work it was not stable and just setting it to 15 15 36 16 didn't work either so you're gonna have to play around with it and find the settings that work for you and it may require multiple reboots and some stress testing to find a setting that in fact does work this is what works for me on this particular Ram at this point you just press f10 to save your settings most boards or f10 these days to save the settings and reboot and it should save them that was system RAM overclocking you can do it and if it's stable awesome you get a free performance boost although as I said earlier it is not a large performance jump the truth of the matter is and I played around with various benchmarks it's very very hard to tell the difference between 21 33 and 2666 unless you're really looking for it on a day to day use of the system it's pretty small that being said the only reason I think that applies is if you either find a really good deal on 21 33 or you already had it sitting on the shelf as I did I had this sitting over there for quite some time if you are buying new Ram today the price difference between 21 33 and even ddr4 3000 is very small do yourself a favor just buy ddr4 3000 and save yourself a world of trouble set XMP in the BIOS and don't worry about it and with that being said let's move on to the CPU overclocking here we are in the system BIOS when you press the delete or f2 key this the first thing you see there are several ways to overclock most motherboards you can see here we're running at the default of 4 gigahertz there is an easy overclock option and most modern boards that support overclocking have such a feature it does set the fan speeds to full speed and when we go to Advanced Mode you're gonna see what it changes over here going to CPU configuration it sets the CPU to 4.4 gigahertz instead of 4 gigahertz it sets the CPU cache ratio to 37 and it changes the voltage which will go look at in a minute the AVX ratio it sets to 4 which is actually a negative number to make some other changes down here as well whether they make a difference or not I'm not entirely convinced they do coming down to voltage it does increase the voltage to 1.3 to 1.3 to is pretty aggressive that's a lot of voltage for 4.4 gigahertz it probably would work at Auto or stock voltage at 4.4 that's not a huge overclock but when you have the automatic overclocking settings that the motherboard companies provide they tend to be fairly conservative because they want it to work for everybody but it produces needless noise temperature heat and wear so we're gonna turn that off and I'm gonna show you two other ways to overclock besides just hitting that easy button first things first we're gonna manually set the voltage to 1.3 5 volts leaving the load line calibration set to level 1 which is where I personally leave it on most of my configurations we're gonna come up here to the CPU itself and we're gonna set an all core number here of however much we want our clocks be to be times 100 so 45 would be 4 point 5 gigahertz 46 would be 4 point 6 gigahertz 47 would be 4 point 7 gigahertz you can see the changes in real time out there it's not actually making them in real time this is just telling you what the target is going to be now 48 or a 4.8 gigahertz overclock is really nice I'm leaving everything else down here auto the only other change I'm gonna make is to increase the AVX ratio offset now I played around with a lot of different settings here I'm showing you the final best numbers that I got to rather than show you 22 different settings this is worked for my chip a negative ratio of three for a VX so when the FPU or ABX instructions are being used it'll actually be four point five instead of four point eight everything else down here is left on auto this worked right here one point three five volts for a 4.8 gigahertz clock speed negative AV x3 this was stable this is where i benchmarked at this chip would not do five gigahertz regardless of settings even one point four five volts didn't make a difference so we come back here and you'll notice it says four gigahertz because we haven't changed anything yet f10 save configuration changes and reboot and we're gonna press delete and come back into the bios once we're back in the bios I'm going to press f6 to go into Advanced Mode it says four gigahertz up there because it's set to boot to the non turbo mode when you first boot the system it'll jump to the overclock settings once you actually get booted up but as you can see here in the CPU configuration it saved it there's 4.8 gigahertz there but instead we're gonna choose this this is another way to auto overclock without using the turbo button and this gives you a choice of four point four four point six or four point eight gigahertz notice it makes similar changes to the four point four to the turbo button in the easy mode everything here is pretty similar a BX offset is minus eight because it's four point eight so essentially what asrock is doing with their pre settings is they're saying a VX shouldn't have any overclock at all I found mine ran at four point five just fine but yours may not this is high it works one point three nine volts is a ton of voltage and in my particular case was not necessary again they're putting in settings that they consider to be functional for most people one hundred and twenty millimeter liquid coolers a little bit thin for that much overclock however I'd want a 240 if I was gonna do one point three nine volts one point three five was better now setting it to the four point six gigahertz Auto overclock you can see down here a VX ratio offset was six because forty six minus six is forty and you'll see here it goes to the one point three five volts that I picked for my four point eight gigahertz overclocked four point eight may or may not work for you at one point three five it may take one point three it may not work at all it may work at less you might get five gigahertz out of your chip you have to be willing to either play around with these settings take the defaults or don't overclock but these are three different ways to overclock in the BIOS I am generally not a fan of built-in overclocking or Auto overclocking or presets because they tend to sort of use the brute force method extra voltage and very conservative settings all things considered to try to give you something that will work for most people after all as rock doesn't want to get boards returned from people saying I set the overclocking in the BIOS and it didn't work your board must be faulty well they were perhaps aggressive on their settings so they're not but you pay for in terms of temp and power consumption and possibly shorter chip life as you saw there at one point three nine volts one notch below one point four on the four point eight gigahertz preset but again every board is going to be different if you get in a Sioux sport or an msi board they will have similar settings but there'll be different speeds different voltages different presets each company doesn't differently I'm more a fan of doing it yourself and finding a safe voltage and then just getting the best clock speed out of it that you can your system do it any way you like push it harder get more performance a little bit more risk more temp perhaps shorter system life the next side-by-side comparison that I'm going to show you is a 264 stress testing a 264 goes beyond what just running a game would do it actually uses all the cores this particular test does not have the FPU and ABX instructions engaged the typical use for this sort of system isn't going to use those an i7 or a risin seven or a thread Ripper or skylake X would be more likely to use a B X if you actually need a B X instructions you need a lot more CPU than this so I turn them off to show you a typical use case and it correlates with the game performance in short side by side 4 gigahertz to 4.8 gigahertz temp and power consumption here you can see the a 264 stress test CPU only between 4 gigahertz stock clock on the left and 4.8 gigahertz overclocked on the right now this is a normal configuration you'd expect for gaming and general online use the FPU is turned off simply because that's generally not stressed all that much which is why the game benchmark video shows the games at four point eight not four point five because you don't really use it that much so the ABX off set doesn't doesn't come into play that much the temperatures here also coincide with what you'll see in the game performance videos much more take a look at the temperatures we're running around fifty degrees Celsius at four gigahertz versus seventy degrees Celsius at four point eight this is a fairly large temperature increase same cooler same everything the difference is the voltage clock speed power consumption etc speaking of power consumption come all the way down to the power section we're using about forty watts on the CPU at four gigahertz and 57 Watts at four point eight this is nearly not quite but nearly a 50 percent power consumption increase for an 800 megahertz clock speed increase intel sells this at four gigahertz for a reason that's the efficiency curve that's where it's happy at best temps best power delivery it's the most efficient and frankly some of you may choose to run it there but if you do want to overclock just be aware it does pull more power and makes a lot more heat fifty percent increase in power consumption or close to it might sound bad for just a 20 percent increase in performance but let's look at that in real numbers it's less than 20 watts of power it's 2 or 3 LED light bulbs it's a third of an incandescent light bulb for a 20 percent performance increase depending upon what you're doing you may very well appreciate it if you're only doing it for maybe 2-3 hours a day it really isn't that much all things considered so it sounds worse than it is the temps are real it is a real solid honest-to-goodness temp difference and there is a fan noise difference which don't really have the equipment to measure but it is louder when it's overclocked than when it is stock so if silence is what you want then either overclocking is not for you or this coolers not for you a Noctua or a be quiet cooler would be quieter than this although not less expensive the good ones of those are in the 50 to 60 dollar price range with comparable cooling but they will be more silent that being said if content creation and non-gaming performance is important to you you've come to the wrong video this is the wrong CPU this is for gaming this is for the games I'm gonna show you in part 4 of this video series I am however having said that going to show you a couple of benchmarks comparing it to some other CPUs including some six core 12 thread chips and show you how well it compares but the truth is if you're building this it should be for gaming so watch out for part 4 for that and with no further ado let's take a look at the benchmarks on this chip Cinebench r15 the ultimate multi-threaded test 3d rendering really shows the effect of all the cores and threads the CPU has at stock speed a score of 666 and at 4.8 gigahertz we had a score of 790 this is an eighteen point six percent increase on a just under 20% clock speed increase so it scales in terms of clock speed very very closely of course it's nearly a 50% power increase but it does scale with clock speed next up we have CPU Z a very popular free tool you can download yourself same results here a nearly 20% clock speed difference produces a roughly 20% performance difference single threaded versus multi-threaded stock versus overclocked you get what you pay for essentially 20% more clock speed gives you 20% more CPU performance but again at a much higher power consumption this next chart compares the performance of several generations older i7 chips and I specifically picked them because they're sort of the peak or top of the line from the previous generation notice that it's stock speed and I 383 50k beats an i7 2604 'men see I 7 is a 4 core 8 thread processor the i3 is a 4 core for thread chip but there has been so much change in 6 generations of processors that it doesn't make a difference the i3 still beats it when it comes to single core performance the i3 even beats an i7 40 790 K which has a single quarter bow to 4.4 gigahertz and yet the i3 still beats it for generations of improvements architectural improvements and other things make the difference but the 4th gen i7 does beat it in multi-threaded and then of course in i7 7700 K beats it in both but not by much in single core performance the new systems really are nice I also included a Rison v 1600 which is a similar price to the i3 8350 K in terms of multi-threaded performance of course the Rison v crushes it 3100 vs 1841 it's not even close if you're doing 3d animations and a bench video editing the rise in v 1600 obliterates it look at the single core performance 364 vs. 481 the i3 crushes it in single core which is why if you're playing games that don't use more than 4 threads the i3 is a much faster processor showing you the same chart but showing you the overclocked results of the i3 now please note that the rest of them have not changed they're still the stock and I understand that but I don't have recent overclocking results of each of those on the current version of cpu-z but I do want to show you how much of a difference that overclocking makes if performance matters to you notice that we have roughly the same multi-threaded performance between an i7 4790k again it's docked to be sure versus an overclock to a 383 50k that's pretty cool single core performance it's the fastest chip we have here and it just goes to show what 4.8 gigahertz really does for you if per core performance is what really matters those benchmark results tell a couple of interesting stories in short if you don't need more than 4 cores and 4 threads if you have a workload or play the kind of games that will be in part 4 of this series more on that in a second then this is actually the best performance for the dollar if you're looking for as close to 5 gigahertz as you can get while spending the least amount of money as is reasonable now you can change coolers cases etc but the chip and some type of motherboard like this in the hundred to one hundred and fifty dollar range is the best per giga hurt her core performance you can buy now the average person probably is better off with either an i5 or i7 or a risin 5 or a risin 7 I don't think risin threes and a threes are the best value for most people but for people within a specific demographic it makes a lot of sense now just to be absolutely clear if you want to play csgo Rainbow six siege overwatch League of Legends World of Tanks world of warships dota 2 if that's what you want to play then you want to watch part 4 of this video series because none of those games need an 8 core 16 thread chip and all of those games will be slower on a Rison 7 2700 then they will on this they really will be so this wins because of clock speed and instructions per clock cycle it may not be the best all-around CPU but it's the best CPU you can get for 4.8 gigahertz on 4 cores 4 threads at 170 dollars at least in the fall of 2018 when I'm recording this I mentioned part 4 of this video I've got 5 different games tested live gameplay plus benchmarks that'll be available early on floatplane link to floatplane down in the video description below it'll publish maybe about a week or so after this on to YouTube but they'll publish back to back over on floatplane $3.00 per month no youtube ads early access videos higher quality 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