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"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enOn today's episode of \"You Asked\": The new PS5 Pro does 8K, so does that mean 8K TVs make sense now? How many years should you keep a TV before replacing it? How does the way a TV makes a picture match up to how our vision works? And which is better at upscaling: your game console or your TV?Welcome back, everyone! I'm Caleb Denison, and this is episode 62 of \"You Asked,\" the show where I answer questions you asked in hopes that I can help you and others with similar tech questions. If you've got a question for me, please email it to youd@digitaltrends.com, and we'll see if your question gets picked to be answered on the show.Adam Parker 1504 writes, \"With the PS5 Pro offering 8K gameplay, I can imagine the PS6 and next-gen Xbox targeting 8K resolutions. Do you think by the end of this decade 8K will become a genuine consumer want?\"Hey Adam, thanks for writing in, and I feel like this is a perfectly timed question. The short answer to your question is yes, I do think consumer demand for 8K TVs is about to go way up, and quickly—although not for the right reasons.First of all, let me clarify something: The PlayStation 5 today is capable of 8K video output, but it can't really do much for 8K gaming. The PS5 Pro is meant to support 8K gaming, but mostly just by upscaling 4K games.So, back to why I think the PS5 Pro—or more importantly, the PS6 or whatever new Xbox comes along—might stoke the fire under 8K TVs. I think consumers will see an 8K logo on the PS5 Pro box and on the subsequent PlayStation 6 and Xbox, and they will want their TV to have the same logo on it. Cue the keyboard warriors commenting about how Sony is generating false demand for 8K TVs, but I don't actually think that's what's happening.Here's the deal: I don't see native 8K games coming anytime soon. It takes a monumental amount of processing power to render just 4K games at higher frame rates. Doing 8K games at reasonable frame rates... we'll get there, but that is going to require a pretty huge advance in computing power. I suspect what will be far more common for quite a while is 4K games getting upscaled by a console or a PC to 8K resolution—a task, by the way, that 8K TVs already perform out of necessity. You can upscale your 4K games to 8K with any 8K TV that's available right now. But with console-sourced information for every pixel on an 8K TV, I can see 8K TV demand going up because game consoles are way more prevalent than high-end gaming PCs. No offense to my high-end gaming PC people, but you know what I mean.People always say, \"Where's the 8K content?\" Well, when you see an 8K logo on a PS5 box, folks who don’t know better will say, \"There's the 8K content,\" and they'll be stoked to buy an 8K TV, figuring they're going to unlock something special from their new expensive console.I will say, though, that gaming upscaled to 8K should look pretty great at 77 inches or larger, and for sure at 85 inches or larger.And along those lines, here’s a good follow-up to that question. Tal Eubank writes, \"I'm a new cinephile, and I watch all my 4K and Blu-rays with an Xbox One S. My TV is an LG OLED A1 from 2021. I don’t know what to choose for the upscaling between the Xbox and the TV. Upscaling seems to me a difficult process to test, so I haven’t found a lot of information on the matter.\"Right, so here’s the deal: If you set your Xbox to output at 4K, then it is upscaling everything to 4K if it isn’t already 4K native content or gaming. Your TV sees a 4K signal, and it doesn’t upscale anything. So, practically speaking, you don’t really need to compare the upscaler in your Xbox to the upscaler in your LG A1 OLED.If you wanted to rely exclusively on the upscaler in your TV instead of the one in your Xbox, then I think you would need to set the resolution on your Xbox to match the native resolution of your game or your content. So, for example, let’s say you are watching a DVD, and that’s at 480p. If you set your Xbox’s output resolution to 480p and then played that DVD, you would be looking at the TV’s upscaling to 4K from 480p. You could then switch the Xbox’s output back to 4K, watch the same DVD clip again, and see which one of them did better—your TV or the Xbox.I’ve got to add here that upscaling to 4K from 480p is a hard job. It’s hard enough upscaling from 720p, so you’ll probably find that neither one does a super amazing job at it.Alesio 777 writes, \"How many years should I keep a TV before tech improvement is worth a newer model?\" And premium member Mike Macintosh commented, \"I will say that I’ve been struggling with FOMO as my 65-inch Sony X950G is about five years old. I’ve been eyeing a replacement in the Sony 65-inch A95L, but the hardest part is justifying the $3,000 price tag for the best picture quality in the land. Maybe I can keep living with the current TV until I can snag a deal in the future.\"So, it’s interesting that this comes up because I was just thinking about this the other day. You know, in many of my TV reviews and on this show as well, I’ve said something like, \"If you’re upgrading from a TV that’s five years or older, you’re likely to notice a big jump in picture quality.\" Now, sometimes I qualify that, and sometimes I don’t, so let me add some clarity around that statement.If you have a mid-tier TV from five years ago and you upgrade to a mid-tier 2023 or 2024 TV, you’ll notice a pretty big improvement. And that’s because a lot of what was once reserved for the very best TVs has now trickled down to the mid-tier level. For example, the TCL 6-Series from five years ago was a great TV, but the processing, backlighting system, HDR peak brightness, and reduced blooming and halo of today’s TCL QM8 are vastly superior, and so is the resulting picture quality.But the jump up in picture quality starts to be less stark if you’re upgrading from a high-end TV to another high-end TV. For example, if you have a 2019 Sony A9G OLED TV, you would see some improvement by upgrading to the Bravia A95L—and I’m using the Bravia just to keep it in the Sony family for continuity—but the difference between those two TVs would be far less noticeable than the difference between a 2019 TCL 6-Series and a 2024 TCL QM8.At the end of the day, you need to look at what you’ve got now and compare it to what you can get today at or around the same price, adjusted for inflation. Mini-LED backlights are far more common on mid-tier TVs now, not just super high-end TVs. Processing has gotten better for some brands like TCL and Hisense, whereas Sony’s processing, while slightly improved, has seen fewer improvements because it was so great to begin with.So where am I going with this? It depends on a few factors. And to Mike Macintosh, your Sony X950G is a solid TV. The A95L is significantly better just by nature of being an OLED, but also, it’s an exemplary TV. But yeah, that price tag is steep. I get it.Zuned from Dubai writes, \"I had an interesting shower thought the other day.\" Dude, me too! Who else does their best thinking in the shower? Drop a like on this video if you do! Anyway, Zuned continues, \"The human eye has red, green, and blue cones with pretty wide and overlapping wavelength sensitivities. For example, our green and blue cones overlap heavily and are both stimulated by green light. And this made me wonder: Do the RGB pixels on our TVs emit a broad range of wavelengths matched to what our cones are sensitive to, or do they just emit a narrow band of wavelengths each? How would it impact our perception of TV color if it was one or the other? Bonus question: How are cameras and displays calibrated for color recording and reproduction accuracy? How do we know the RGB wavelengths recorded by the camera sensor are the same wavelengths displayed by the TV's LEDs?\"Okay, so first, a clarification: LEDs don’t make the colors on your TV—that’s the color filters’ job. But we’ll get back to that. I love this question for so many reasons. First, we get to talk about color theory, and we get to talk about why display calibration is so important.So, the retinas in our eyes contain two different kinds of photoreceptors: rods and cones. Rods perceive levels of light, so broken down simply, that's basically contrast, and the cones perceive color. We have a cone for reds, a cone for green, and a cone for blue.Now, Zened, you mentioned that there's overlap among those cones in terms of the wavelengths of red, green, and blue that we perceive, and that's correct. It's necessary for there to be overlap so that we can perceive a wide spectrum of color. But, for example, as the blue cone gets weaker at picking up blues as they move towards green, our green rod starts to pick up, and the sum of those two is what allows most folks to perceive balanced color. Our brains are doing the color mixing and telling us that what we see is yellow or magenta, etc.A TV works by combining red, green, and blue too, and it's important that the TV covers as much of the full spectrum of red, green, and blue wavelengths as possible. But what's more important is how well a TV can mix those wavelengths. If a TV can produce and mix color wavelengths in the same way our eyes perceive them, then we can say they produce color correctly. But doing a broad range of wavelengths is relatively easy for TVs compared to their ability to produce extremely pure red, green, and blue.This is why, when we look at a histogram of a TV's pure red, green, or blue color output, what we want to see is as narrow a mountain with as sharp a peak as possible. The more pure that red, green, and blue is, the more exacting a TV can be with its color production. This is one reason we like QD-OLED TVs so much; they are able to make the purest red, green, and blue colors that we've seen from a consumer display.Now, the only way that we can know any of this with any kind of certainty is with measurements. We can use scientific instruments to measure colors and break them down into coordinates on a chart. So, when I measure a TV using a colorimeter and Calman software, what I'm doing is measuring the coordinates of the colors the TV is making, then comparing that to a reference chart to see how close to accurate the TV might be. And that's actually where the importance of white balance comes in. I talk a lot about how well a TV matches its whites up with a D65 white point. What that means is that we need to see a TV producing white at 6540 Kelvin. This reference white point is what is typically used during both the capture and reproduction of images, and we use it because it is meant to most closely represent daylight. If a TV's white balance is off, that means its color is going to be off too.Now, to answer your bonus question, the only way we can know if a camera is capturing color wavelengths accurately is by, again, measuring what it recorded. If we can just get the camera to accurately record what is happening in real life, then we're good. Of course, not all cameras do that, which is why color correction is so important. Of course, a lot of the art in video and still images is in the manipulation of color to achieve a desired effect. Part of what we like about movies, TV, and photos is that they're often not a perfect facsimile of real life. I mean, if you looked at the raw footage captured when the Matrix movies were recorded, you'd notice that it doesn't have that distinctive green hue. The colorist made that greenish look after the fact, and the Matrix movies look the way they do because of that artistic choice.Anyway, this whole topic goes much, much deeper, but hopefully, you all understand a bit better how important measurements and accuracy are for displays and cameras.Thanks so much for watching, everyone. What did you think about this week's topics? Let me know down in the comments so that we can make better and better episodes. Slap this video with a like if you think somebody else might enjoy it too. Subscribe to see more. I'll see you on the next one, and until then, here are two other videos I think you might like.Dude, I have been craving fried chicken nonstop.\n"