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The Power and Performance Differences Between Three Ryzen 9000 Chips: An In-Depth Analysis

In this article, we'll dive into the power and performance differences between three Ryzen 9000 chips: the AMD Ryzen 9 7950 X3D, the Ryzen 9 9950X, and the Ryzen 9 7950X. We'll explore their power consumption, thermal performance, clock speeds, and gaming capabilities to help you decide which chip is best suited for your build.

**Power Consumption**

The first thing we want to look at is power consumption. The undervolted 9950X, whether or not we're using the temp limit, saw relatively similar peak power draw in Cinebench Plus, plus or minus 3 to 9 watts versus stock. However, with PBO alone, its peak CPU package power draw did drop by 15 watts below stock and 17 watts below itself with PBO and the temp limit enabled, which brings down the total system power draw slightly. In games, however, this drop in power consumption is not as significant, as it's still not as low as the 7950 X3D.

**Thermal Performance**

Next up is thermal performance. Adding a temp limit of 85°C brings the 9950X's Cinebench temps down to 85°C, which is a 10 or 11 degree drop from stock or, if we had just done the PBO overclock with no temp limit in place, the undervolted temps are also lower when gaming, hitting 79-80° at peak, down from 87°C at stock. Both undervolt profiles of the 950X averaged a temperature of 72°C or 7° below stock and even slightly cooler than the 7950 X3D.

**Clock Speeds**

Now, let's look at average clock speeds in a multi-thread Cinebench run. The 950X with PBO and temp limit hit 4,222 MHz, which is about 200 MHz slower than with just PBO and about 100 MHz slower than stock. Despite this, the temp-limited 950X outperforms its stock profile with a Cinebench multi-thread score of 4296, that's about 5% faster than stock and 3% slower than with PBO only.

**Real-World Performance**

In Adobe Premiere Pro, the temp-limited 950X performs somewhere between its stock profile and PBO-only profile. It finished the 4K export 4.5% slower than it did with PBO only and although it was only 75% faster than its stock profile, the temp limit allowed it to run 10°C cooler on average, which is still a big win.

**Build-Specific Considerations**

Now that we've explored the power and performance differences between these three Ryzen 9000 chips, let's consider what this means for our specific build. We're talking about a very niche scenario – inside of the tiny Dela 3 case, a 4L chassis with an RTX 4060 Ti. In gaming, it's kind of a wash; you can give half a point I suppose to the 7950 X3D, as it did have stronger frame times and better consistency overall.

**Compute Performance**

However, in compute performance, the 9950X is definitely the winner. It was faster across the board, sometimes not by much and other times by a lot. Overall, it's the more powerful chip in this regard.

**Power Consumption Award**

The power consumption award goes to the 7950 X3D, as even undervolting the Zen 5 chip doesn't really get you close to the stock x3d's power draw. Thermal performance is also a win for the 7950 X3D, as it just runs cooler out of the box.

**Price Considerations**

Finally, let's consider price. The 7950 X3D is about $125 cheaper right now than the 9950X at launch, and it's available on Amazon for $525. Given these price points, it's clear that the 7950 X3D is the better value.

**Conclusion**

In conclusion, while all three Ryzen 9000 chips have their strengths and weaknesses, the 7950 X3D comes out on top in our analysis. It offers superior thermal performance, slightly lower power consumption with undervolting, and a more affordable price point at launch. The 9950X, on the other hand, is still an excellent choice for those who need extreme compute performance.

That being said, if you do have money to burn and really need the extra compute performance, the 9950X may be worth considering. However, given the current pricing, the 7950 X3D would be our pick for this build unless you have specific requirements that can't be met by the Zen 4 chip.

We'll continue to test these new chips in the coming weeks and months to see how they hold up in real-world performance. In the meantime, if you're considering which Ryzen 9000 chip is best for your build, we hope this analysis has provided some valuable insights.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enso this is going to be more of a tech Vlog for today where I do some testing with the brand new ryzen 9 950x this is the 16 core 32 thread New Zen 5 CPU from AMD that just came out I'm actually going to be testing it in a very unique scenario inside of my Vela Pro build which is inside of the nice Vela 3 case super small form factor 4 L chassis which currently has a ryzen 9 7950 X 3D chip in it also a 16 core 32 thread part I use this for work and play mostly for work so I'm more concerned about the compute performance between the two chips but we're going to test gaming as well although this is a fairly Niche scenario that's not going to apply to many people because I have inside of this build an RTX 460 Ti from palot their 8 gig model and generally speaking when most people buy something like a ryzen 9 chip they're going to be pairing a high-end graphics card with it like an RTX 480 or 490 for example or something equivalent from AMD but the 4060 TI is pretty much the fastest GPU that will fit inside of the Vela 3 and a lot of cases that are around the 4 L Mark so we're going to find out how much the extra gaming performance on the x3d chip matters when we're now in a heavily GPU bound scenario with more of a mid-range graphics card if you already watched the Vela pro video which I highly suggest you check out if you haven't seen it yet then you already know that this CPU is running undervolted and we're getting some nice uh performance and thermals out of that I'm going to fully assume that we are going to have to undervolt the 950x as well the 9700x that I reviewed last week stayed nice and cool in our testing but it's also a 65 wat TDP chip and it just doesn't draw nearly as much power as the 950x so we are probably going to see some much higher temperatures right out of the box with this CPU and with this small knock to a cooler it's a great cooler for what it is the nhl9a I'm just not 100% confident that it's going to be able to handle this chip at stock so we are going to do some undervolting for now I've already run all the benchmarks I need to on our 7950 X 3D so now it's just a matter of swapping the CPU and running the benchmarks on this part and then doing some undervolting we'll get to that part as well now swapping out the CPU should be a fairly terrible experience because there's so many screws that we'll have to undo just to get this cooler off a because the cooler needs to be uninstalled from the backside behind the motherboard and what's in the way of that the GPU so we'll have to remove that and also just the design of this case and it being a super small form factor will require us to remove I think like 15 or 16 screws before we can actually get this cooler off so let's go ahead and do that and be on our way to benchmarking the 950x is installed the tests have been run and oh boy she thirsty incin bench the 99 50x saw a peak system power draw of 350 watt that's over 100 Watts more than the 795x 3D and in that same test the 9950 X's Peak CPU package hit 200 watts compared to the 795x 3D at 139 Watts but this isn't really surprising since the 9900x has a higher socket power or PPT of 200 Watts which it definitely seems to be maxing out here while the x3d chip caps its PPT at just 162 Watts when gaming in Shadow of the Tomb Ator at 1440p the 950x reached a peak of 394 Watts for total system power that's with the GPU of course versus 359 Watts with the 795x 3D Peak CPU package in game was 105 Watts for the 950x and 73 Watts for the zen4 chip it's worth noting that the difference in power consumption while gaming isn't as massive as it is in something like cinebench since the CPU isn't being fully utilized and the 4060 TI which is being utilized is helping close that Gap but the 950x isn't just thirsty she toasty too incin bench it maxes out at 96 C with an average of 95 C while the 795x 3D Peaks and averages out at 89c the Zen 5 chip runs hotter in Shadow of the Tomb Raider as well peaking at 87° C 9° warmer than the 7950 x3d on average it runs at 79c or 6° warmer than the x3d fortunately that extra power and heat does give us a lot more performance in CN bench with the 950x getting a multi-thread score of 4,2 37 points roughly 21% faster than the 7950 x3d and in the single thread test it outperforms the 7950 x3d by 20% in CPU Mark the 950x is only 2% faster in the multi-thread test but it does see a solid 14% uplift with its single thread score in Puget bench's Adobe Premier Pro standard Benchmark the CPUs are pretty much comparable with the 950x scoring just. 5% higher that's pretty much margin of error though in Pet's Photoshop test it outperforms the 7950 X 3D by 11 %. in handbrake the 950x transcoded a 4K video file to 1080p 5 Seconds quicker than the x3d chip which was 8% slower in completing the task so depending on the application and task when you're comparing it to the 7950 X 3D the 9900x can range from negligible improvements to huge 20% gains when it comes to compute performance it's a wide range but overall the Zen 516 core is definitely the more powerful chip for professional use and yes it does draw more power and run notably harder than the 7950 X 3D uh so we will be undervolting it later but first let's take a look at some gaming benchmarks in 3D marks time spy extreme the CPUs are pretty much neck and neck with differences of. 1% in either direction this is clearly within margin of error and there's no clear winner here it's basically a draw we actually do get to see some measurable difference in Shadow of the Tomb Raider the 795x 3D beats the 950x in average frame rates by 1.5% and outperforms its 1% lows by a whopping 20% so that's better frame time consistency overall but naturally the x3d would lead by a wider margin if we were using a faster GPU than the RTX 4060 TI more or less the same story in Forza Horizon 5 the 7950 X 3D sees a 1% gain in average FPS and a 9% uplift in 1% lows so yeah I mean with the 4060 TI we're not seeing a significant difference here but for the vast majority of users who are pairing a ryzen 9 with a high-end GPU like a 480 or a 490 uh the x3d chip is clearly going to be the stronger choice for gaming all right let's do some undervolting on this bad boy on our 950x we are in the Asus bio right now we're going to go into advanced AI tweaker your mileage may vary based on the BIOS that you have but essentially somewhere you're going to be able to find Precision boost overdrive PBO specifically pbo2 and once you go in there you've got some more settings here we're going to start off with curve Optimizer this is basically going to allow us to shift our voltage and frequency curve so that we can essentially achieve the same clock speeds at a lower voltage or rather higher clock speeds at the same voltage and that's going to give us more or less an overclock we want it to affect all the cores we're going to go to all cores and this is uh by by undervolting right we want to do a negative offset here and then we enter a value in here that's going to represent the magnitude of of our shift uh and this is going to be heavily dependent on the quality of your CPU silicon this is purely silicon Lottery it's not fair I know I've had some CPUs that can get away with 30 and I've had others I can get away with just five um I'm going to go with uh well I've already done a lot of testing but I can tell you on this 9950 X that AMD has sampled me I can get away with 25 which is actually pretty good um it's it's rock solid stable at 25 if I go to 30 it crashes immediately just freezes up as soon as I start like a cender bench run so 25 is what I got I'm curious if AMD Cherry picks the the samples for press but that's a topic for a different video so 25 is what we're going with here and if I run some tests with just the settings that we've changed here on this page we're automatically going to see higher clock speeds greater performance uh at the same temperature and voltage values for the most part so uh that's great and all uh extra performance is basically an overclock but we're still going to be hitting 95c cuz that's what we're getting at stock so in order to uh still get the benefits maybe some of the benefits that this this undervolt offers while reducing temperatures we have a couple different options here we could go to Precision boost overdrive do manual and we could set a PPT limit which is basically saying I'm going to limit how much power I want the motherboard to give our CPU so by default it's 200 but you could do 150 and then you just reboot into windows and run some test to see if uh if this value is is good for your needs if you're getting the performance you want if you're achieving the temperatures that you want um and then you can go ahead and adjust accordingly come back into the BIOS okay maybe that was a little too high on the on the temp still let's let's lower the the wattage to 120 but for now I'm actually going to skip that and do do it the other way which is a thermal throttle limit and me personally I don't like getting much hotter than 85c so it's going to it's going to cap out at 85c no matter what we do it might go to 86 but it's not going to get much harder than that and this is what I feel comfortable with so this is one profile that we're going to be testing just in a few moments here and then we're also going to test another profile where we we remove the temp limit and we just do the PBO curve so that'll show up on the Benchmark slides as uh 9950 X PBO and then you'll also see 950x PBO uh plus 85c which is indicating the temp limit so that's how you're going to read those slides and of course we're testing both of these profiles against the stock profile as well and it's going to be really interesting to see the difference es in power temperatures performance and clock speeds between these three profiles so let's take a look at the results for power consumption the undervolted 950x whether or not we're using the temp limit saw relatively the same Peak power draw in cin bench plus or minus 3 to 9 watts versus stock however with PBO alone its peak CPU package power draw did drop 15 watts below stock and 17 Watts below itself with PBO and the temp limit enabled which brings down the total system power draw slightly in games but still not as low as the 7950 X 3D taking a look at thermal performance as we can see adding a temp limit of 85° C brings the 9950 X's cinebench temps down to 85c it's a 10 or 11 degree drop from stock or if we had just done the PBO overclock with no temp limit in place the undervolt temps are also lower when gaming hitting 79 to 80° at Peak down from 87c at stock both undervolt profiles of the 950x averaged a temperature of 72c or 7° below stock and even slightly cooler than the 79 X 3D here's a look at average clock speeds in a multi-thread cinebench run where we can see the 950x with PBO and temp limit hitting 4,222 MHz which is about 200 MHz slower than with just PBO and about 100 MHz slower than stock despite this the temp limited 950x outperforms its stock profile with a c bench multi-thread score of 4296 that's about 5% faster than stock and 3% slower than with PBO only we can see this reflected in a real world scenario in Adobe premere Pro where the temp limited 950x performs Somewhere Between stock and its PBO only profile it finished the 4K export 4.5% slower than it did with PBO only and although it was only 75% faster than its stock profile the temp limit allowed it to run 10° cooler on average which is still a big win so here are my takeaways as to which of these CPUs is better suited for this particular build again this is a very Niche scenario that we're talking about today inside of the tiny Dela 3 case a 4 L chassis with an RTX 4060 TI given the build gaming is kind of a wash you can give half a point I suppose to the 7950 X 3D it did have stronger frame times 1% lows better consistency overall but it's it wasn't a huge meaningful difference I would say so Gaming's kind of a draw compute performance definitely goes to the 950x 3D it was faster across the board sometimes not buy a lot and other times buy a lot but overall definitely the more the more powerful chip in that regard power consumption award definitely goes to the 7950 X 3D uh even undervolting the Zen 5 chip doesn't really get you close to the stock x3ds power draw thermal performance is a win for the 7950 x3d as well it just runs cooler out of the box and uh but you can I will say you can with the 950x get it to easily match that temperature profile by just setting that templ in the Bios like we did and then price goes to 7950 x3d it's about $125 cheaper right now than the 950x uh at launch I think the 950x is launching MSRP 650 you get the 7950 X 3D on Amazon for 525 it's just a lot cheaper overall I have to give the crown to drum roll please that's not even a drum roll it's terrible uh the 7950 x3d would be my pick for this build unless you have money to burn and you really need the extra compute performance which the x3d already has a lot of the Zen 4 chip is just better suited for a super small form factor build like this one and given the current pricing it's a better value too and that value just increases if if we were to just like double the size of that Vela 3 case where you could actually fit 4080 or a 4090 7900 X XTX or something like that then the value of the x3d chip just increases even more because you're able to actually leverage uh more of its performance in in games for for higher frame rates and things like that but uh that's pretty much going to do it for this one guys I will continue to test these new chips in the coming weeks so stay tuned for more ryzen 9000 content coming soon thank you for watching and I'll see you all in the next videoso this is going to be more of a tech Vlog for today where I do some testing with the brand new ryzen 9 950x this is the 16 core 32 thread New Zen 5 CPU from AMD that just came out I'm actually going to be testing it in a very unique scenario inside of my Vela Pro build which is inside of the nice Vela 3 case super small form factor 4 L chassis which currently has a ryzen 9 7950 X 3D chip in it also a 16 core 32 thread part I use this for work and play mostly for work so I'm more concerned about the compute performance between the two chips but we're going to test gaming as well although this is a fairly Niche scenario that's not going to apply to many people because I have inside of this build an RTX 460 Ti from palot their 8 gig model and generally speaking when most people buy something like a ryzen 9 chip they're going to be pairing a high-end graphics card with it like an RTX 480 or 490 for example or something equivalent from AMD but the 4060 TI is pretty much the fastest GPU that will fit inside of the Vela 3 and a lot of cases that are around the 4 L Mark so we're going to find out how much the extra gaming performance on the x3d chip matters when we're now in a heavily GPU bound scenario with more of a mid-range graphics card if you already watched the Vela pro video which I highly suggest you check out if you haven't seen it yet then you already know that this CPU is running undervolted and we're getting some nice uh performance and thermals out of that I'm going to fully assume that we are going to have to undervolt the 950x as well the 9700x that I reviewed last week stayed nice and cool in our testing but it's also a 65 wat TDP chip and it just doesn't draw nearly as much power as the 950x so we are probably going to see some much higher temperatures right out of the box with this CPU and with this small knock to a cooler it's a great cooler for what it is the nhl9a I'm just not 100% confident that it's going to be able to handle this chip at stock so we are going to do some undervolting for now I've already run all the benchmarks I need to on our 7950 X 3D so now it's just a matter of swapping the CPU and running the benchmarks on this part and then doing some undervolting we'll get to that part as well now swapping out the CPU should be a fairly terrible experience because there's so many screws that we'll have to undo just to get this cooler off a because the cooler needs to be uninstalled from the backside behind the motherboard and what's in the way of that the GPU so we'll have to remove that and also just the design of this case and it being a super small form factor will require us to remove I think like 15 or 16 screws before we can actually get this cooler off so let's go ahead and do that and be on our way to benchmarking the 950x is installed the tests have been run and oh boy she thirsty incin bench the 99 50x saw a peak system power draw of 350 watt that's over 100 Watts more than the 795x 3D and in that same test the 9950 X's Peak CPU package hit 200 watts compared to the 795x 3D at 139 Watts but this isn't really surprising since the 9900x has a higher socket power or PPT of 200 Watts which it definitely seems to be maxing out here while the x3d chip caps its PPT at just 162 Watts when gaming in Shadow of the Tomb Ator at 1440p the 950x reached a peak of 394 Watts for total system power that's with the GPU of course versus 359 Watts with the 795x 3D Peak CPU package in game was 105 Watts for the 950x and 73 Watts for the zen4 chip it's worth noting that the difference in power consumption while gaming isn't as massive as it is in something like cinebench since the CPU isn't being fully utilized and the 4060 TI which is being utilized is helping close that Gap but the 950x isn't just thirsty she toasty too incin bench it maxes out at 96 C with an average of 95 C while the 795x 3D Peaks and averages out at 89c the Zen 5 chip runs hotter in Shadow of the Tomb Raider as well peaking at 87° C 9° warmer than the 7950 x3d on average it runs at 79c or 6° warmer than the x3d fortunately that extra power and heat does give us a lot more performance in CN bench with the 950x getting a multi-thread score of 4,2 37 points roughly 21% faster than the 7950 x3d and in the single thread test it outperforms the 7950 x3d by 20% in CPU Mark the 950x is only 2% faster in the multi-thread test but it does see a solid 14% uplift with its single thread score in Puget bench's Adobe Premier Pro standard Benchmark the CPUs are pretty much comparable with the 950x scoring just. 5% higher that's pretty much margin of error though in Pet's Photoshop test it outperforms the 7950 X 3D by 11 %. in handbrake the 950x transcoded a 4K video file to 1080p 5 Seconds quicker than the x3d chip which was 8% slower in completing the task so depending on the application and task when you're comparing it to the 7950 X 3D the 9900x can range from negligible improvements to huge 20% gains when it comes to compute performance it's a wide range but overall the Zen 516 core is definitely the more powerful chip for professional use and yes it does draw more power and run notably harder than the 7950 X 3D uh so we will be undervolting it later but first let's take a look at some gaming benchmarks in 3D marks time spy extreme the CPUs are pretty much neck and neck with differences of. 1% in either direction this is clearly within margin of error and there's no clear winner here it's basically a draw we actually do get to see some measurable difference in Shadow of the Tomb Raider the 795x 3D beats the 950x in average frame rates by 1.5% and outperforms its 1% lows by a whopping 20% so that's better frame time consistency overall but naturally the x3d would lead by a wider margin if we were using a faster GPU than the RTX 4060 TI more or less the same story in Forza Horizon 5 the 7950 X 3D sees a 1% gain in average FPS and a 9% uplift in 1% lows so yeah I mean with the 4060 TI we're not seeing a significant difference here but for the vast majority of users who are pairing a ryzen 9 with a high-end GPU like a 480 or a 490 uh the x3d chip is clearly going to be the stronger choice for gaming all right let's do some undervolting on this bad boy on our 950x we are in the Asus bio right now we're going to go into advanced AI tweaker your mileage may vary based on the BIOS that you have but essentially somewhere you're going to be able to find Precision boost overdrive PBO specifically pbo2 and once you go in there you've got some more settings here we're going to start off with curve Optimizer this is basically going to allow us to shift our voltage and frequency curve so that we can essentially achieve the same clock speeds at a lower voltage or rather higher clock speeds at the same voltage and that's going to give us more or less an overclock we want it to affect all the cores we're going to go to all cores and this is uh by by undervolting right we want to do a negative offset here and then we enter a value in here that's going to represent the magnitude of of our shift uh and this is going to be heavily dependent on the quality of your CPU silicon this is purely silicon Lottery it's not fair I know I've had some CPUs that can get away with 30 and I've had others I can get away with just five um I'm going to go with uh well I've already done a lot of testing but I can tell you on this 9950 X that AMD has sampled me I can get away with 25 which is actually pretty good um it's it's rock solid stable at 25 if I go to 30 it crashes immediately just freezes up as soon as I start like a cender bench run so 25 is what I got I'm curious if AMD Cherry picks the the samples for press but that's a topic for a different video so 25 is what we're going with here and if I run some tests with just the settings that we've changed here on this page we're automatically going to see higher clock speeds greater performance uh at the same temperature and voltage values for the most part so uh that's great and all uh extra performance is basically an overclock but we're still going to be hitting 95c cuz that's what we're getting at stock so in order to uh still get the benefits maybe some of the benefits that this this undervolt offers while reducing temperatures we have a couple different options here we could go to Precision boost overdrive do manual and we could set a PPT limit which is basically saying I'm going to limit how much power I want the motherboard to give our CPU so by default it's 200 but you could do 150 and then you just reboot into windows and run some test to see if uh if this value is is good for your needs if you're getting the performance you want if you're achieving the temperatures that you want um and then you can go ahead and adjust accordingly come back into the BIOS okay maybe that was a little too high on the on the temp still let's let's lower the the wattage to 120 but for now I'm actually going to skip that and do do it the other way which is a thermal throttle limit and me personally I don't like getting much hotter than 85c so it's going to it's going to cap out at 85c no matter what we do it might go to 86 but it's not going to get much harder than that and this is what I feel comfortable with so this is one profile that we're going to be testing just in a few moments here and then we're also going to test another profile where we we remove the temp limit and we just do the PBO curve so that'll show up on the Benchmark slides as uh 9950 X PBO and then you'll also see 950x PBO uh plus 85c which is indicating the temp limit so that's how you're going to read those slides and of course we're testing both of these profiles against the stock profile as well and it's going to be really interesting to see the difference es in power temperatures performance and clock speeds between these three profiles so let's take a look at the results for power consumption the undervolted 950x whether or not we're using the temp limit saw relatively the same Peak power draw in cin bench plus or minus 3 to 9 watts versus stock however with PBO alone its peak CPU package power draw did drop 15 watts below stock and 17 Watts below itself with PBO and the temp limit enabled which brings down the total system power draw slightly in games but still not as low as the 7950 X 3D taking a look at thermal performance as we can see adding a temp limit of 85° C brings the 9950 X's cinebench temps down to 85c it's a 10 or 11 degree drop from stock or if we had just done the PBO overclock with no temp limit in place the undervolt temps are also lower when gaming hitting 79 to 80° at Peak down from 87c at stock both undervolt profiles of the 950x averaged a temperature of 72c or 7° below stock and even slightly cooler than the 79 X 3D here's a look at average clock speeds in a multi-thread cinebench run where we can see the 950x with PBO and temp limit hitting 4,222 MHz which is about 200 MHz slower than with just PBO and about 100 MHz slower than stock despite this the temp limited 950x outperforms its stock profile with a c bench multi-thread score of 4296 that's about 5% faster than stock and 3% slower than with PBO only we can see this reflected in a real world scenario in Adobe premere Pro where the temp limited 950x performs Somewhere Between stock and its PBO only profile it finished the 4K export 4.5% slower than it did with PBO only and although it was only 75% faster than its stock profile the temp limit allowed it to run 10° cooler on average which is still a big win so here are my takeaways as to which of these CPUs is better suited for this particular build again this is a very Niche scenario that we're talking about today inside of the tiny Dela 3 case a 4 L chassis with an RTX 4060 TI given the build gaming is kind of a wash you can give half a point I suppose to the 7950 X 3D it did have stronger frame times 1% lows better consistency overall but it's it wasn't a huge meaningful difference I would say so Gaming's kind of a draw compute performance definitely goes to the 950x 3D it was faster across the board sometimes not buy a lot and other times buy a lot but overall definitely the more the more powerful chip in that regard power consumption award definitely goes to the 7950 X 3D uh even undervolting the Zen 5 chip doesn't really get you close to the stock x3ds power draw thermal performance is a win for the 7950 x3d as well it just runs cooler out of the box and uh but you can I will say you can with the 950x get it to easily match that temperature profile by just setting that templ in the Bios like we did and then price goes to 7950 x3d it's about $125 cheaper right now than the 950x uh at launch I think the 950x is launching MSRP 650 you get the 7950 X 3D on Amazon for 525 it's just a lot cheaper overall I have to give the crown to drum roll please that's not even a drum roll it's terrible uh the 7950 x3d would be my pick for this build unless you have money to burn and you really need the extra compute performance which the x3d already has a lot of the Zen 4 chip is just better suited for a super small form factor build like this one and given the current pricing it's a better value too and that value just increases if if we were to just like double the size of that Vela 3 case where you could actually fit 4080 or a 4090 7900 X XTX or something like that then the value of the x3d chip just increases even more because you're able to actually leverage uh more of its performance in in games for for higher frame rates and things like that but uh that's pretty much going to do it for this one guys I will continue to test these new chips in the coming weeks so stay tuned for more ryzen 9000 content coming soon thank you for watching and I'll see you all in the next video\n"