**CyberpowerPC Review: A Disappointing Experience**

We recently had the opportunity to review CyberpowerPC's latest pre-built system, and unfortunately, it did not meet our expectations. With a grade of around 50, we have to say that this computer falls short in several areas.

The thermal solution used by Cyberpower is the primary issue with this system. The cooler overheats, causing the CPU to throttle, which reduces performance significantly. This is particularly concerning for users who expect their computer to perform at its best out of the box. We're not talking about overclocking here; we're talking about normal usage and performance.

This problem is significant because it will impact users who don't plan on upgrading or modifying their system in any way. The throttling reduces performance, making this computer less than ideal for those who want a reliable and efficient machine. As a result, we have to give this system a failing grade from us, despite the rest of the components being assembled well.

The motherboard is not a high-end Z-series motherboard, which means that the memory can't reach its full potential with a K-series CPU. This wasted potential is a letdown, especially considering the price tag. The parts themselves are not high-quality, but they do work as expected. Replacing the CPU cooler and flipping around the fans might help improve performance, but it's still not ideal.

One of the main issues we have with CyberpowerPC is their pricing strategy. With components selling out left and right due to the current market situation, prices are inflated. The system itself is overpriced compared to what you'd expect for its quality and performance. We've seen better deals on similar systems from other manufacturers.

Despite these issues, there is some potential in this system. If you're familiar with computers and want to build one yourself, you can pull out the parts that are subpar and upgrade or replace them. However, this will require some knowledge and effort on your part.

If you do decide to purchase this system, we recommend buying another stick of RAM, as a single stick won't be able to take full advantage of dual-channel technology. Additionally, replacing the motherboard and CPU cooler might be necessary to improve performance. With these changes, you can create a better computer from a starting point that's not ideal.

Our disappointment with this system is palpable, especially considering what we've seen in other pre-built computers. It's unacceptable to ship a product in this state, regardless of the price. We believe that CyberpowerPC should invest more in their cooling solutions and strive for better quality control.

In contrast, other manufacturers have managed to deliver systems that are reliable, efficient, and well-performing. While we can't recommend this system without reservations, it's still a starting point if you're willing to take on the challenges of building your own computer.

If you do decide to buy from CyberpowerPC, we suggest checking out their other products and comparing prices. They may have something better available, despite our disappointment with this system.

**Technical Details**

* CPU: K-series

* Motherboard: Not a high-end Z-series motherboard

* RAM: Single stick of RAM (not dual-channel)

* Cooling Solution: Overheating CPU cooler

* Performance Impact: Significant throttling and reduced performance

* Price: Overpriced compared to similar systems from other manufacturers

**Recommendations**

* Buy another stick of RAM for better performance

* Replace the motherboard and CPU cooler for improved performance

* Consider building your own computer with this system as a starting point

* Check out CyberpowerPC's other products and compare prices

* Look for more reliable and efficient pre-built systems from other manufacturers

**Disclaimer**

The views expressed in this review are those of the reviewer and may not reflect the opinions of others. This review is intended to provide an honest assessment of the system and its performance, but it's always a good idea to do your own research and compare prices before making a purchase decision.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enso you're not wasting all of the money just like half of it what the f okay i spoke a little soon we're back with another pre-built gaming pc on the bench for in-depth review and some torture testing this time it's the cyber power i 3200 bst it was one thousand fifty dollars we bought it at a physical retail store you can buy them online too and at the same time we bought the nine hundred dollar dell g five five thousand do not buy that computer we have a review of it on the channel we also bought an ibuypower computer that has yet to come up in testing and that one was the cheapest one we bought but this has the same gpu as the dell g55000 it prices 150 higher it does have a better cpu we're going to test them against each other in standardized testing but we're also going to look at the assembly quality of the cyber power computer that we paid a thousand fifty dollars for before that this video is brought to you by asus and the asus tough gaming b550 plus wi-fi motherboard ready for amd ryzen cpus the tough gaming b550 board comes in atx and micro atx variants with key features including a wi-fi 6 module 2.5 gigabit ethernet a fanless chipset heatsink for quiet operation and a focus on stability and uptime learn more about the tough gaming b550 plus wi-fi motherboard at the link in the description below we figured we should try another pre-built because the dell computer went over so well why would you do with that why why would you do any of this the cooler screwed into the case our focus today will be on build quality gaming thermals by the way horrible thermals patrick tested this thing immediately when we got it before i did the teardown and man it is we're gonna need to break out the pressure paper for this one it's that bad but anyway we'll look at that we'll get noise levels everything else but for value value is hard to measure right now because of the gpu market but even still it's an i5 10 600 kf actually pretty good cpu we'd be fine recommending that for diy and it's got a gtx 1660 super in it so the 10600 kf is available it's not like a hard to get part and it's 200 right now when we checked retailers online the 1660 super msrp is 230 let's say you get gouge for like two times that on ebay say you pay 500 bucks for the gpu and 200 for the cpu that's still only 700 this system costs a thousand fifty sure there's other parts in here none of them cost that much not a single one of these other parts would exceed 100 retail so we're not really sure where the price came from for cyberpower it's like they were in a meeting and said what should we sell this system for and someone hmm how about a thousand fifty and that's what they went with so terrible value from a pure msrp perspective it's not an msrp market we know that we're going to look at this anyway because probably a lot of people will buy this just to get the gpu and with this one unlike the dell system you at least get non-proprietary parts so you can actually use this thing cyberpower has genuinely done a good job in some spots far better than what we've seen in some of the other systems from cyberpower in the past which have failed our tests very hard so there's some upside to this one it's the first pre-built we've seen that's not complete garbage and that's uh that's pretty high praise from us as always a reminder that this review is not meant to be diy elitism but we do have standards there are a lot of good reasons to buy a pre-built gaming pc and we are going to review this as if you actually want to buy one there are two main markets right now there's someone who doesn't care about ever building a computer and just wants to buy something that's pre-built for gaming and then there's someone who can't get the parts for diy and they want to buy something to get the parts or because they're tired of waiting and we're going to look at it from those two perspectives let's get started before even getting into the teardown we need to set the stage for the rest of this review cyberpower has mostly done a good job with small details that we'll look at in the assembly but they've massively screwed up on the thermals the thermals are so bad that it's in an utterly unacceptable state out of the box for a customer especially one who doesn't know really anything about building computers it could be made into an actually useful computer that's kind of the sad part if the buyer is capable of swapping out the cpu cooler and doing some light work it's not hard to do if you've never done that before either simply put the cpu is throttling under all test conditions it's actually crazy how bad it is we'll check in the teardown whether this was caused by a poor mount or not but under cpu only workload not even adding the heat of a gpu into the system the cpu immediately hit 100 degrees celsius we're bouncing off of the maximum junction temperature of the cpu which means that the cpu is throttling by a couple hundred megahertz in some cases the fact that cyberpower would ship this thing out the door in this state is embarrassing with a cpu and a gpu workload our gpu temperature maxes out at 73 degrees celsius or 87 on the hot spot it's actually not bad at all so it's just the cpu that needs a better solution it doesn't help that the tiny cooler master solution maxes out as well at 1700 rpm while also running only 100 millimeter fan on an 80 millimeter heatsink we mounted a scythe fuma 2 to the motherboard just for perspective and then we flipped the two side exhaust fans around as intake our goal was to establish that you can actually make this computer into a really good competently performing system with about an hour of effort it's not ideal but it's workable unlike dells we reviewed this cooler separately and found it to be good value at 60 dollars it's a high end solution you could still get better results with a 30 solution than the stock one but this shows you the high end of things in this chart you can at least see the potential we're now below 70 degrees celsius and within roughly the same area for noise we'd actually be able to reduce the noise substantially from here and still be at 10 degrees cooler than stock as for those thermal differences when we swapped the cooler to the fumo one we also ran blender numbers to look at how long does it take to render a single frame from an animation with a 100 cpu load and the difference was actually measurable you can see it here we've got like a couple minutes or so of difference and that really adds up frame by frame and it does mean it'll impact gaming performance as well now unfortunately we're not really going to know the full extent of the game performance impact in this set of tests because dell is so bad that we don't actually have a baseline to compare against that makes sense for the parts but it is lower than it should be and that's the part that matters cyberpower is selling you something that could perform better than it is okay so let's get into the teardown this is much more standard than the dell system so internally some really obvious things that i see immediately it's a downdraft cooler it's loose which tells me there's probably a mounting problem so we're going to look into that next thing i'm noticing is actually a positive so cyber power has done really well with cable management it's actually it's extremely well done there's only a couple things i would change so small attention to detail stuff they've got this extra eight pin pcie header that's a daisy chain off the power supply zip tied down here and they've hidden as much of it as they can i think i would have routed this cable actually through this one instead it would have been a straighter shot from here to here and looked a little better but this is still really good it's a much better uh starting point than some of the other pre-built 24-pin and usb are both talked in right next to each other looks good a little bit of flex there on the board on the right side those are for a vrm heatsink which is not included on this model motherboard the fact the holes are there tells me that this board is being used elsewhere and there is a version with a heatsink available but this does not have it the memory is in the correct slot let me see if they actually have an option to install four sticks or if it wouldn't fit with this cooler it can actually fit four sticks as long as they're not too tall so there's a little bit of clearance there at the edge of the cooler eps 12 volt is socketed and cable managed this fan is cable managed so i would have routed the hd audio to a different hole but look this is actually a really good place to be the fact that i'm criticizing their choice of grommet for cable routing that's a good spot like that means i'm not looking at proprietary motherboards power supplies garbage video cards uh well there's still a chance on this msi card this is a much better start than the other one let's take the rest of it apart there oh my god msi you work so it's it's unbelievable how completely incompetent msi is sometimes they've made some good products but when they make bad ones they make the same mistakes over and over and over this isn't cyberpower's fault uh they did source the card but there's the memory modules right there i was just about to comment on how great it is that msi has put a thermal pad contacting the memory because dell didn't do that with its card from whomever they bought theirs from this thermal pad however has about one and a half to maybe two millimeters of contact on the memory module and the rest of it is just sitting out there it's not even really under the fan at this point i mean it's probably quote unquote within spec but just if you can make a better product with really not that much change in the bill of materials i e cost or much of anything else why wouldn't you do it this is msi and we've oh nice got a factory seal on there too so don't change msi i guess i thought you need me to tell you that yeah i'm gonna i was gonna take the cooler off let's take the motherboard out first this is something we can actually do in this one the dell one the cpu cooler was a load bearing cpu cooler so you had to remove it to remove the motherboard from the case so this is kind of nice again cyber power good job on the cable management side of things hey not bad and the sata power is plugged in wow impressive anyone doesn't know it's a reference to last time we bought a cyber power computer all right so we've got the cooler master electrical tape special for the rgb cable whoever taped this is a pro they have used a lot of tape in their time at cyberpower okay can we now finally remove this thing we're doing this work on our anti-static modmat this is the new large volt version we have the mediums and the original large in stock this one's on back order if you'd like to get one on store.camerasnexus.net if you would like your own pc building surface to protect your table from pre-built nightmares that should be the name of our new show license it from gordon ramsay wow wow wow wow this thermal paste is it's raw well i think i've found the the problem this thermal paste crop circle here you can see lined up on that copper slug on the bottom of the cooler the cold plate so the problem then is first of all i should note this cooler master makes intel's coolers they're heat sinks they are the supplier of the intel branded stock cooler so if this looks familiar that's why but this looks like one of the larger of the intel stock coolers with a different fan mounted to it and it's got a copper slug in the middle and then aluminum contact patch on the outside the aluminum does not really contact the cpu as evidenced by the fact that we've got this deep circle here and paste sitting basically untouched on the outer edges so someone probably applied paste with a spreader or a silk screen or something and got on the whole surface which is what you should do if it were going to make contact and that's what we're seeing here there's not really much pressure and if you remember this thing was wiggling around when it was completely torqued when i went like that it was sliding around a little bit by about probably about two millimeters to give left and right so that's what we see here where there's just not not enough pressure on the outside and that unfortunately is a non-solvable issue that is not something that we can fix by just mounting this better it's going to be the nature of this particular cooler there should just be a better cooler on it instead this cooler is phenomenally bad it's impressive how bad this solution works on this cpu after seeing that i need some some alcohol so we're going to pour some out for this cpu most egregious defense we've seen so far on cyberpower system kill management really good job great attention to detail on the build itself and that's where it counts part selection is not hard to fix if they decide they want to build something that doesn't suck so we got one stick of ram it is 15 16 16 35 and it's going to be 8 gigabytes of 3000 megahertz and we'll talk more about this in the benchmarking section i think it's running below that spec all right for the rest let's see what we have back on this side so this is an evga power supply it's 600 watt and we can do 18 amps on three three and five and we can do 50 amps on 12 volt so you do get the full 600 watt capability on 12 volt that's a good thing and the drives are initialized this time good job cyber power you figured out how to initialize hard drives we've had that problem twice now with pre-built where there'd be a drive included that's either not initialized or not connected so cyberpower did tell us that they have a new system since our last review video where the drive was not initialized where internally now they run a script at the end of the build and make sure everything is there and working as it should be through some automation so um that is an improvement that's one that they did in response to criticism last time and that's a good thing i don't think i have any other thoughts on this non-modular power supply what the f okay i spoke a little soon are they just is this just like it's just like the molex centipede or where's it do something i actually don't know if does this go anywhere or is it just like hey i don't know what to do with all these cables boss what should i do and then they were like make art out of it make a centipede okay so that's going to a fan the rear fan is this cable and that's connected that's spliced into the molex power so this is the rear fan this is the power from the power supply so that's power supply cable that's going to the rear fan this is going to another fan what the hell cyber power i figured out how to save you money okay whoever is doing this uh this is taking a lot of time all right and i know you guys are backed up right now in building so let's not do this and then let's use their time to do something else instead there's a lot of other ways to do this this is this is an artifact of choosing fans that have i don't know they're trying to not use a fan controller so these are just going to those fans so trying to not use a fan controller for these fans which is fine do they not have headers on the board one two three four five two three four there's enough headers on the motherboard we don't need to do whatever this is it's cleaner on that side but it's a nightmare on this side i'm not really sure how i feel about this uh i would not do this let's put it that way i don't you know you want as few connections as possible normally this makes me a little nervous not a lot of power so they've got that going for them wow well one more thing i just noticed as i was about to go reassemble it check this out it's the asrock b460m pro 4s ac revision 1.03 or or is it it's the b460 pro 4. also revision 1.03 apparently uh not scandalous or anything it just looks like they probably installed a wireless card in it and then it became the pro 4s ac instead of the pro 4. but it's certainly one way to rebrand the board we also ran a pressure test to get more of an understanding as to why the cooler ran so poorly when stock this is measured with special tools that we purchased thanks to support on store.cameratexas.net and patreon so thanks to those of you who make this possible as shown in this chemically reactive pressure measurement the stock cooler makes actually zero contact with at least half of the ihs there's contact at the corners which isn't even close to the silicon by the way and there's some at the center the corners don't really help to heat sink and the center being where the dye is is what gets hot but there's a gaping hole in coverage even at the central area of the copper slug the cooler is loose and it applies inadequate pressure here while also lacking contact between the copper slug and the outer rim of the aluminum square cold plate so out of the box the rear i o is covered by a sticker that reads important do not connect monitor here and then indicates the motherboard video ports and smaller print directing the user to connect to the gpu instead this cpu uses an f sku processor without an igp and it has a discrete gpu installed so nothing would happen if the incorrect ports used and that would potentially lead to an rma this is good but kind of standard now for sis the setup process is covered in an admirably brief quick start guide and it hits the important points while still being short enough that someone might actually read it checking for loose cables correctly connecting the monitor and other peripherals and setting the mains voltage and power switches on the back of the power supply cover the most common stumbling blocks for new users the system shipped with the power supply switch in the off position as well so it is important to tell them to switch it back on starting our evaluation with software starts to paint a picture of why a lot of these system integrators are doing a better job than their oem counterparts like dell dell had somewhere around 14 control panels and help desks installed on the g55000 we reviewed all of which we'd classify as bloatware the cyberpower system did not have any pre-installed bloatware at all there was a web link to their store and a usb key that also redirects to the store for coupons but that was it this is a major plus the os is actually usable out of the box without needing to uninstall a bunch of useless software that chews away at gpu and cpu resources in the background so good job by cyberpower for drivers cyberpower installed nvidia driver 461.4 which is a studio driver from january 26th or so bios is an older version of 1.4 with 1.5 being the newest and from september 9th of 2020. overall we're fine on the versions that were used they're not too out of date for either of these as for bios that's also fairly straightforward this is an asrock board not a custom one so it's a standard asrock bios the bios is not able to run the 3000 megahertz memory stick beyond 2666 this is an unfortunate waste of potential by cyber power the cpu is already an expensive k sku but the board isn't a z series chipset capable of leveraging the higher memory speeds that are afforded by the 10600 kf and of course afforded by the memory stick which can go to at least 3 000. cyberpower should have coupled a more suitable board with the cpu but of course cost control comes into play somewhere power limits are also being locked down on this board out of box but that's probably a good thing given the lack of the vrm heatsink and the wretched cooling solution that was used on the cpu gaming benchmarks you're up next a quick explainer as always the performance here is most heavily dictated by the gpu and the cpu which cyberpower dell at all do not make those parts are made by another party and just bought and installed by the system builder but that doesn't mean they can't screw that part up and looking at the price to performance still helps evaluate where each manufacturer spent its money that you paid them starting cyber power with cyberpunk 2077 benchmarking in our standardized suite the cyber power system ran at 63 fps average and that's a boost of 17 percent over the dell g5 5000 average fps of 54. that's terrible for the dell system it has an i5 10 400 f not that different from the 10 600 kf and we're in a gpu bound scenario with a 1660 super for each cyber power here has a 17 higher average fps for 16.7 more money that actually makes great sense when considering the dell system also has potential hidden charges that we talked about in the review and proprietary parts that'll relegate it to the landfill once things start dying at least the cyber power system has things that you can use in other standard applications so this is a good start so in hitman 3 for cyber power we really start to understand the plight of dell's choices we ran and re-ran these tests multiple times and we've determined that the 65 advantage held by cyberpower is a genuine one as discussed in our dell game benchmarks recently the dell system has mcafee running in the background with services that hinder performance by using a significant chunk of the eight gigabytes of system memory but they also analyze running processes in this instance dell ends up more memory bound than anything else although both systems have the same memory capacity dell is running four chips on a single dim that's low quality and then has the audacity to run nearly a dozen background services that chew away at what remains this is an embarrassing show for dell especially with the same cpu and gpu in rainbow six siege at ultra settings and 1080p the cyberpower pc outperforms dell's g5 by about 12 or about 27 when dell's bloatware is running the one percent lows are also somewhat advantaged on the cyberpower configuration although the 0.1 lows are not meaningfully different and only start to diverge somewhat once you compare against the bloatware numbers at 1440p the solar power system manages a six percent advantage while gpu bound this shows that at least in this game a large part of its advantage is in the cpu difference between the 10400f and the 10600k app the fact that we see a performance uplift is just a bonus when considering the existing advantage of parts that are actually universally usable thanks to their adherence to you know standards and form factors in red the two at 1080p and custom high settings the cyberpower system ran at 61 fps average that maintains it above the 60fps threshold for the most part with lows acceptably positioned at 43 for 1 that affords cyberpower a lead of 13 over the dell g5 while using the same gpu but with the cpu difference and more importantly the build quality difference that's in place as for noise levels the cyber power system idles higher than the dell system that we tested but both of them reached about the same noise level once a load was applied cyber power's ramped to 38 decibels only takes a few seconds indicating just how bad the cooling problem is because it's nearly instant the cooler can't keep up and keep the cpu under control so it immediately spikes to the highest fan rpm that's allowed in bios overall though neither of these systems is overly loud in total but they're also not cooling effectively so that's the downside our noise floor here's about 26 to 27 db for reference we are above that it's not in unusable territory as far as noise is concerned but it's extremely inefficient for both of these systems they could have better solutions in place so that's it for cyber power let's start with the easy stuff in the recap first of all build quality in terms of assembly was very good solar power is on point with cable management and with using parts that are not proprietary these are all normal form factors they are all standards you could take any individual component out of this computer and put it into another computer and it would work as long as that other computer also has the same standards so that's a sadly a very good thing this system unfortunately still gets an f but it's not an f minus like in the pat well as a 50 and f minus it's about a we'd give it about if we're going to grade things don't really believe in grading for consumer products but if i were going to assign this grade it'd be about a 50. the reason it gets a technically failing grade but one that is recoverable is because cyberpower has a thermal solution which is overheating and the problem with that we're throttling so we're losing a couple hundred megahertz off the top of all cores on the clock it's significant it actually impacted performance and the problem with that is that a normal user buying this who will never do any kind of work to it is going to run this thing throttling and below the potential performance that can produce we're not talking overclocks we're talking out of box performance this is terrible it's completely unacceptable and for that reason it does technically get a failing grade from us there is an upside the upside is the rest of the system is done up fairly well the motherboard is not a z series motherboard you can't run the memory at the speed you should be able to run it at for a k series cpu so that's wasted potential but the system itself has assembled relatively well the parts are whatever they're not high quality but they do work and if you replace the cpu cooler and maybe flip around the fans you'd be in a position where the system is workable it's a good platform to actually build a computer from it is not a good selection of parts for the price the price and the parts are way out of whack more than ever and all these sis and oms know that they are all running higher prices than they probably should be or would typically be because everything is selling out right now so that's unfortunate and we can't fix that but from a a platform perspective there's something you can work with so at least there's that so then our recommendation if you buy this if you are well versed in computers cool you can pull parts out that you want uh and if you wanted to use this as a platform where you're wasting a little bit of money in some places you'd mostly be wasting it on the motherboard and the cpu cooler you'd probably want to go buy another stick of ram because there's a single stick of ram it is not going to be running in dual channel there's no such thing as dual channel ram but the sis will list it like that and the oems will list it like that to trick you that's kind of a downside power still doing one stick of ram and a thousand fifty dollar pc that's stupid but if you bought this go buy another sticker ram try and match the spec and probably replace the motherboard and then replace the cooler and now you're building a new computer on your own but you did get a gpu and a cpu with it uh so you're not wasting all of the money just like half of it but anyway it's really sad that this is is the best one we've seen so far it's that is so sad because just it's unacceptable to ship in this state cyber power that cooler it doesn't matter what it costs you it has to go i know you can get i'm talking to cyberpower i know you can get a better tower cooler than this that will not overheat and will not be excessively loud with a bill of materials or a cost of like three dollars more than this one the thing's a thousand fifty how much margin do you need that's what i have to say to cyber power i've seen the bill of materials on coolers i know what's out there couple bucks more way better so let's get with that cyberpower get it to a state where in the very least you're only over charging but it works well out of box and it runs spec out of box and then i'll be not happy but we'll be in the middle well the only complaint we'll have then is the price that's not a bad place to be well good nvidia that's the main complaint against nvidia's products anyway uh this is it's really a challenge review pre-built because it's it's always like what you're looking for the bar is just so low and i don't want to settle because i don't want our viewers to settle for something that's garbage and ripping them off but it's better than dell so that's for this one i would definitely buy this over dells but that's about the best i could say about it it is a starting place thank you for watching as well you can go to store.gamertexas.net to help us out directly if you'd like to buy one of our tool kits mod mats mouse pads mouse mats or other items on the store like our bar runners and you can also go to patreon.com gamersnexus for some bonus behind the scenes videos like where we have patrick stone talking about power supply testing and explosions thanks for watching as always subscribe for more we'll see you all next timeso you're not wasting all of the money just like half of it what the f okay i spoke a little soon we're back with another pre-built gaming pc on the bench for in-depth review and some torture testing this time it's the cyber power i 3200 bst it was one thousand fifty dollars we bought it at a physical retail store you can buy them online too and at the same time we bought the nine hundred dollar dell g five five thousand do not buy that computer we have a review of it on the channel we also bought an ibuypower computer that has yet to come up in testing and that one was the cheapest one we bought but this has the same gpu as the dell g55000 it prices 150 higher it does have a better cpu we're going to test them against each other in standardized testing but we're also going to look at the assembly quality of the cyber power computer that we paid a thousand fifty dollars for before that this video is brought to you by asus and the asus tough gaming b550 plus wi-fi motherboard ready for amd ryzen cpus the tough gaming b550 board comes in atx and micro atx variants with key features including a wi-fi 6 module 2.5 gigabit ethernet a fanless chipset heatsink for quiet operation and a focus on stability and uptime learn more about the tough gaming b550 plus wi-fi motherboard at the link in the description below we figured we should try another pre-built because the dell computer went over so well why would you do with that why why would you do any of this the cooler screwed into the case our focus today will be on build quality gaming thermals by the way horrible thermals patrick tested this thing immediately when we got it before i did the teardown and man it is we're gonna need to break out the pressure paper for this one it's that bad but anyway we'll look at that we'll get noise levels everything else but for value value is hard to measure right now because of the gpu market but even still it's an i5 10 600 kf actually pretty good cpu we'd be fine recommending that for diy and it's got a gtx 1660 super in it so the 10600 kf is available it's not like a hard to get part and it's 200 right now when we checked retailers online the 1660 super msrp is 230 let's say you get gouge for like two times that on ebay say you pay 500 bucks for the gpu and 200 for the cpu that's still only 700 this system costs a thousand fifty sure there's other parts in here none of them cost that much not a single one of these other parts would exceed 100 retail so we're not really sure where the price came from for cyberpower it's like they were in a meeting and said what should we sell this system for and someone hmm how about a thousand fifty and that's what they went with so terrible value from a pure msrp perspective it's not an msrp market we know that we're going to look at this anyway because probably a lot of people will buy this just to get the gpu and with this one unlike the dell system you at least get non-proprietary parts so you can actually use this thing cyberpower has genuinely done a good job in some spots far better than what we've seen in some of the other systems from cyberpower in the past which have failed our tests very hard so there's some upside to this one it's the first pre-built we've seen that's not complete garbage and that's uh that's pretty high praise from us as always a reminder that this review is not meant to be diy elitism but we do have standards there are a lot of good reasons to buy a pre-built gaming pc and we are going to review this as if you actually want to buy one there are two main markets right now there's someone who doesn't care about ever building a computer and just wants to buy something that's pre-built for gaming and then there's someone who can't get the parts for diy and they want to buy something to get the parts or because they're tired of waiting and we're going to look at it from those two perspectives let's get started before even getting into the teardown we need to set the stage for the rest of this review cyberpower has mostly done a good job with small details that we'll look at in the assembly but they've massively screwed up on the thermals the thermals are so bad that it's in an utterly unacceptable state out of the box for a customer especially one who doesn't know really anything about building computers it could be made into an actually useful computer that's kind of the sad part if the buyer is capable of swapping out the cpu cooler and doing some light work it's not hard to do if you've never done that before either simply put the cpu is throttling under all test conditions it's actually crazy how bad it is we'll check in the teardown whether this was caused by a poor mount or not but under cpu only workload not even adding the heat of a gpu into the system the cpu immediately hit 100 degrees celsius we're bouncing off of the maximum junction temperature of the cpu which means that the cpu is throttling by a couple hundred megahertz in some cases the fact that cyberpower would ship this thing out the door in this state is embarrassing with a cpu and a gpu workload our gpu temperature maxes out at 73 degrees celsius or 87 on the hot spot it's actually not bad at all so it's just the cpu that needs a better solution it doesn't help that the tiny cooler master solution maxes out as well at 1700 rpm while also running only 100 millimeter fan on an 80 millimeter heatsink we mounted a scythe fuma 2 to the motherboard just for perspective and then we flipped the two side exhaust fans around as intake our goal was to establish that you can actually make this computer into a really good competently performing system with about an hour of effort it's not ideal but it's workable unlike dells we reviewed this cooler separately and found it to be good value at 60 dollars it's a high end solution you could still get better results with a 30 solution than the stock one but this shows you the high end of things in this chart you can at least see the potential we're now below 70 degrees celsius and within roughly the same area for noise we'd actually be able to reduce the noise substantially from here and still be at 10 degrees cooler than stock as for those thermal differences when we swapped the cooler to the fumo one we also ran blender numbers to look at how long does it take to render a single frame from an animation with a 100 cpu load and the difference was actually measurable you can see it here we've got like a couple minutes or so of difference and that really adds up frame by frame and it does mean it'll impact gaming performance as well now unfortunately we're not really going to know the full extent of the game performance impact in this set of tests because dell is so bad that we don't actually have a baseline to compare against that makes sense for the parts but it is lower than it should be and that's the part that matters cyberpower is selling you something that could perform better than it is okay so let's get into the teardown this is much more standard than the dell system so internally some really obvious things that i see immediately it's a downdraft cooler it's loose which tells me there's probably a mounting problem so we're going to look into that next thing i'm noticing is actually a positive so cyber power has done really well with cable management it's actually it's extremely well done there's only a couple things i would change so small attention to detail stuff they've got this extra eight pin pcie header that's a daisy chain off the power supply zip tied down here and they've hidden as much of it as they can i think i would have routed this cable actually through this one instead it would have been a straighter shot from here to here and looked a little better but this is still really good it's a much better uh starting point than some of the other pre-built 24-pin and usb are both talked in right next to each other looks good a little bit of flex there on the board on the right side those are for a vrm heatsink which is not included on this model motherboard the fact the holes are there tells me that this board is being used elsewhere and there is a version with a heatsink available but this does not have it the memory is in the correct slot let me see if they actually have an option to install four sticks or if it wouldn't fit with this cooler it can actually fit four sticks as long as they're not too tall so there's a little bit of clearance there at the edge of the cooler eps 12 volt is socketed and cable managed this fan is cable managed so i would have routed the hd audio to a different hole but look this is actually a really good place to be the fact that i'm criticizing their choice of grommet for cable routing that's a good spot like that means i'm not looking at proprietary motherboards power supplies garbage video cards uh well there's still a chance on this msi card this is a much better start than the other one let's take the rest of it apart there oh my god msi you work so it's it's unbelievable how completely incompetent msi is sometimes they've made some good products but when they make bad ones they make the same mistakes over and over and over this isn't cyberpower's fault uh they did source the card but there's the memory modules right there i was just about to comment on how great it is that msi has put a thermal pad contacting the memory because dell didn't do that with its card from whomever they bought theirs from this thermal pad however has about one and a half to maybe two millimeters of contact on the memory module and the rest of it is just sitting out there it's not even really under the fan at this point i mean it's probably quote unquote within spec but just if you can make a better product with really not that much change in the bill of materials i e cost or much of anything else why wouldn't you do it this is msi and we've oh nice got a factory seal on there too so don't change msi i guess i thought you need me to tell you that yeah i'm gonna i was gonna take the cooler off let's take the motherboard out first this is something we can actually do in this one the dell one the cpu cooler was a load bearing cpu cooler so you had to remove it to remove the motherboard from the case so this is kind of nice again cyber power good job on the cable management side of things hey not bad and the sata power is plugged in wow impressive anyone doesn't know it's a reference to last time we bought a cyber power computer all right so we've got the cooler master electrical tape special for the rgb cable whoever taped this is a pro they have used a lot of tape in their time at cyberpower okay can we now finally remove this thing we're doing this work on our anti-static modmat this is the new large volt version we have the mediums and the original large in stock this one's on back order if you'd like to get one on store.camerasnexus.net if you would like your own pc building surface to protect your table from pre-built nightmares that should be the name of our new show license it from gordon ramsay wow wow wow wow this thermal paste is it's raw well i think i've found the the problem this thermal paste crop circle here you can see lined up on that copper slug on the bottom of the cooler the cold plate so the problem then is first of all i should note this cooler master makes intel's coolers they're heat sinks they are the supplier of the intel branded stock cooler so if this looks familiar that's why but this looks like one of the larger of the intel stock coolers with a different fan mounted to it and it's got a copper slug in the middle and then aluminum contact patch on the outside the aluminum does not really contact the cpu as evidenced by the fact that we've got this deep circle here and paste sitting basically untouched on the outer edges so someone probably applied paste with a spreader or a silk screen or something and got on the whole surface which is what you should do if it were going to make contact and that's what we're seeing here there's not really much pressure and if you remember this thing was wiggling around when it was completely torqued when i went like that it was sliding around a little bit by about probably about two millimeters to give left and right so that's what we see here where there's just not not enough pressure on the outside and that unfortunately is a non-solvable issue that is not something that we can fix by just mounting this better it's going to be the nature of this particular cooler there should just be a better cooler on it instead this cooler is phenomenally bad it's impressive how bad this solution works on this cpu after seeing that i need some some alcohol so we're going to pour some out for this cpu most egregious defense we've seen so far on cyberpower system kill management really good job great attention to detail on the build itself and that's where it counts part selection is not hard to fix if they decide they want to build something that doesn't suck so we got one stick of ram it is 15 16 16 35 and it's going to be 8 gigabytes of 3000 megahertz and we'll talk more about this in the benchmarking section i think it's running below that spec all right for the rest let's see what we have back on this side so this is an evga power supply it's 600 watt and we can do 18 amps on three three and five and we can do 50 amps on 12 volt so you do get the full 600 watt capability on 12 volt that's a good thing and the drives are initialized this time good job cyber power you figured out how to initialize hard drives we've had that problem twice now with pre-built where there'd be a drive included that's either not initialized or not connected so cyberpower did tell us that they have a new system since our last review video where the drive was not initialized where internally now they run a script at the end of the build and make sure everything is there and working as it should be through some automation so um that is an improvement that's one that they did in response to criticism last time and that's a good thing i don't think i have any other thoughts on this non-modular power supply what the f okay i spoke a little soon are they just is this just like it's just like the molex centipede or where's it do something i actually don't know if does this go anywhere or is it just like hey i don't know what to do with all these cables boss what should i do and then they were like make art out of it make a centipede okay so that's going to a fan the rear fan is this cable and that's connected that's spliced into the molex power so this is the rear fan this is the power from the power supply so that's power supply cable that's going to the rear fan this is going to another fan what the hell cyber power i figured out how to save you money okay whoever is doing this uh this is taking a lot of time all right and i know you guys are backed up right now in building so let's not do this and then let's use their time to do something else instead there's a lot of other ways to do this this is this is an artifact of choosing fans that have i don't know they're trying to not use a fan controller so these are just going to those fans so trying to not use a fan controller for these fans which is fine do they not have headers on the board one two three four five two three four there's enough headers on the motherboard we don't need to do whatever this is it's cleaner on that side but it's a nightmare on this side i'm not really sure how i feel about this uh i would not do this let's put it that way i don't you know you want as few connections as possible normally this makes me a little nervous not a lot of power so they've got that going for them wow well one more thing i just noticed as i was about to go reassemble it check this out it's the asrock b460m pro 4s ac revision 1.03 or or is it it's the b460 pro 4. also revision 1.03 apparently uh not scandalous or anything it just looks like they probably installed a wireless card in it and then it became the pro 4s ac instead of the pro 4. but it's certainly one way to rebrand the board we also ran a pressure test to get more of an understanding as to why the cooler ran so poorly when stock this is measured with special tools that we purchased thanks to support on store.cameratexas.net and patreon so thanks to those of you who make this possible as shown in this chemically reactive pressure measurement the stock cooler makes actually zero contact with at least half of the ihs there's contact at the corners which isn't even close to the silicon by the way and there's some at the center the corners don't really help to heat sink and the center being where the dye is is what gets hot but there's a gaping hole in coverage even at the central area of the copper slug the cooler is loose and it applies inadequate pressure here while also lacking contact between the copper slug and the outer rim of the aluminum square cold plate so out of the box the rear i o is covered by a sticker that reads important do not connect monitor here and then indicates the motherboard video ports and smaller print directing the user to connect to the gpu instead this cpu uses an f sku processor without an igp and it has a discrete gpu installed so nothing would happen if the incorrect ports used and that would potentially lead to an rma this is good but kind of standard now for sis the setup process is covered in an admirably brief quick start guide and it hits the important points while still being short enough that someone might actually read it checking for loose cables correctly connecting the monitor and other peripherals and setting the mains voltage and power switches on the back of the power supply cover the most common stumbling blocks for new users the system shipped with the power supply switch in the off position as well so it is important to tell them to switch it back on starting our evaluation with software starts to paint a picture of why a lot of these system integrators are doing a better job than their oem counterparts like dell dell had somewhere around 14 control panels and help desks installed on the g55000 we reviewed all of which we'd classify as bloatware the cyberpower system did not have any pre-installed bloatware at all there was a web link to their store and a usb key that also redirects to the store for coupons but that was it this is a major plus the os is actually usable out of the box without needing to uninstall a bunch of useless software that chews away at gpu and cpu resources in the background so good job by cyberpower for drivers cyberpower installed nvidia driver 461.4 which is a studio driver from january 26th or so bios is an older version of 1.4 with 1.5 being the newest and from september 9th of 2020. overall we're fine on the versions that were used they're not too out of date for either of these as for bios that's also fairly straightforward this is an asrock board not a custom one so it's a standard asrock bios the bios is not able to run the 3000 megahertz memory stick beyond 2666 this is an unfortunate waste of potential by cyber power the cpu is already an expensive k sku but the board isn't a z series chipset capable of leveraging the higher memory speeds that are afforded by the 10600 kf and of course afforded by the memory stick which can go to at least 3 000. cyberpower should have coupled a more suitable board with the cpu but of course cost control comes into play somewhere power limits are also being locked down on this board out of box but that's probably a good thing given the lack of the vrm heatsink and the wretched cooling solution that was used on the cpu gaming benchmarks you're up next a quick explainer as always the performance here is most heavily dictated by the gpu and the cpu which cyberpower dell at all do not make those parts are made by another party and just bought and installed by the system builder but that doesn't mean they can't screw that part up and looking at the price to performance still helps evaluate where each manufacturer spent its money that you paid them starting cyber power with cyberpunk 2077 benchmarking in our standardized suite the cyber power system ran at 63 fps average and that's a boost of 17 percent over the dell g5 5000 average fps of 54. that's terrible for the dell system it has an i5 10 400 f not that different from the 10 600 kf and we're in a gpu bound scenario with a 1660 super for each cyber power here has a 17 higher average fps for 16.7 more money that actually makes great sense when considering the dell system also has potential hidden charges that we talked about in the review and proprietary parts that'll relegate it to the landfill once things start dying at least the cyber power system has things that you can use in other standard applications so this is a good start so in hitman 3 for cyber power we really start to understand the plight of dell's choices we ran and re-ran these tests multiple times and we've determined that the 65 advantage held by cyberpower is a genuine one as discussed in our dell game benchmarks recently the dell system has mcafee running in the background with services that hinder performance by using a significant chunk of the eight gigabytes of system memory but they also analyze running processes in this instance dell ends up more memory bound than anything else although both systems have the same memory capacity dell is running four chips on a single dim that's low quality and then has the audacity to run nearly a dozen background services that chew away at what remains this is an embarrassing show for dell especially with the same cpu and gpu in rainbow six siege at ultra settings and 1080p the cyberpower pc outperforms dell's g5 by about 12 or about 27 when dell's bloatware is running the one percent lows are also somewhat advantaged on the cyberpower configuration although the 0.1 lows are not meaningfully different and only start to diverge somewhat once you compare against the bloatware numbers at 1440p the solar power system manages a six percent advantage while gpu bound this shows that at least in this game a large part of its advantage is in the cpu difference between the 10400f and the 10600k app the fact that we see a performance uplift is just a bonus when considering the existing advantage of parts that are actually universally usable thanks to their adherence to you know standards and form factors in red the two at 1080p and custom high settings the cyberpower system ran at 61 fps average that maintains it above the 60fps threshold for the most part with lows acceptably positioned at 43 for 1 that affords cyberpower a lead of 13 over the dell g5 while using the same gpu but with the cpu difference and more importantly the build quality difference that's in place as for noise levels the cyber power system idles higher than the dell system that we tested but both of them reached about the same noise level once a load was applied cyber power's ramped to 38 decibels only takes a few seconds indicating just how bad the cooling problem is because it's nearly instant the cooler can't keep up and keep the cpu under control so it immediately spikes to the highest fan rpm that's allowed in bios overall though neither of these systems is overly loud in total but they're also not cooling effectively so that's the downside our noise floor here's about 26 to 27 db for reference we are above that it's not in unusable territory as far as noise is concerned but it's extremely inefficient for both of these systems they could have better solutions in place so that's it for cyber power let's start with the easy stuff in the recap first of all build quality in terms of assembly was very good solar power is on point with cable management and with using parts that are not proprietary these are all normal form factors they are all standards you could take any individual component out of this computer and put it into another computer and it would work as long as that other computer also has the same standards so that's a sadly a very good thing this system unfortunately still gets an f but it's not an f minus like in the pat well as a 50 and f minus it's about a we'd give it about if we're going to grade things don't really believe in grading for consumer products but if i were going to assign this grade it'd be about a 50. the reason it gets a technically failing grade but one that is recoverable is because cyberpower has a thermal solution which is overheating and the problem with that we're throttling so we're losing a couple hundred megahertz off the top of all cores on the clock it's significant it actually impacted performance and the problem with that is that a normal user buying this who will never do any kind of work to it is going to run this thing throttling and below the potential performance that can produce we're not talking overclocks we're talking out of box performance this is terrible it's completely unacceptable and for that reason it does technically get a failing grade from us there is an upside the upside is the rest of the system is done up fairly well the motherboard is not a z series motherboard you can't run the memory at the speed you should be able to run it at for a k series cpu so that's wasted potential but the system itself has assembled relatively well the parts are whatever they're not high quality but they do work and if you replace the cpu cooler and maybe flip around the fans you'd be in a position where the system is workable it's a good platform to actually build a computer from it is not a good selection of parts for the price the price and the parts are way out of whack more than ever and all these sis and oms know that they are all running higher prices than they probably should be or would typically be because everything is selling out right now so that's unfortunate and we can't fix that but from a a platform perspective there's something you can work with so at least there's that so then our recommendation if you buy this if you are well versed in computers cool you can pull parts out that you want uh and if you wanted to use this as a platform where you're wasting a little bit of money in some places you'd mostly be wasting it on the motherboard and the cpu cooler you'd probably want to go buy another stick of ram because there's a single stick of ram it is not going to be running in dual channel there's no such thing as dual channel ram but the sis will list it like that and the oems will list it like that to trick you that's kind of a downside power still doing one stick of ram and a thousand fifty dollar pc that's stupid but if you bought this go buy another sticker ram try and match the spec and probably replace the motherboard and then replace the cooler and now you're building a new computer on your own but you did get a gpu and a cpu with it uh so you're not wasting all of the money just like half of it but anyway it's really sad that this is is the best one we've seen so far it's that is so sad because just it's unacceptable to ship in this state cyber power that cooler it doesn't matter what it costs you it has to go i know you can get i'm talking to cyberpower i know you can get a better tower cooler than this that will not overheat and will not be excessively loud with a bill of materials or a cost of like three dollars more than this one the thing's a thousand fifty how much margin do you need that's what i have to say to cyber power i've seen the bill of materials on coolers i know what's out there couple bucks more way better so let's get with that cyberpower get it to a state where in the very least you're only over charging but it works well out of box and it runs spec out of box and then i'll be not happy but we'll be in the middle well the only complaint we'll have then is the price that's not a bad place to be well good nvidia that's the main complaint against nvidia's products anyway uh this is it's really a challenge review pre-built because it's it's always like what you're looking for the bar is just so low and i don't want to settle because i don't want our viewers to settle for something that's garbage and ripping them off but it's better than dell so that's for this one i would definitely buy this over dells but that's about the best i could say about it it is a starting place thank you for watching as well you can go to store.gamertexas.net to help us out directly if you'd like to buy one of our tool kits mod mats mouse pads mouse mats or other items on the store like our bar runners and you can also go to patreon.com gamersnexus for some bonus behind the scenes videos like where we have patrick stone talking about power supply testing and explosions thanks for watching as always subscribe for more we'll see you all next time\n"