**Embedding Ctie Board in Drywall**

When working with ctie board and drywall, it's essential to ensure a smooth transition between the two materials. To achieve this, we'll embed the ctie board into the drywall, creating a seamless joint that's both waterproof and durable.

We start by applying a bead of th set around the perimeter of the ctie board, where it meets the drywall. This will help create a strong bond between the two materials. Next, we use a utility knife to cut a small notch in the corner of the ctie board, about 1/8 inch deep. This notch will allow us to easily fold the excess th set over the edge of the ctie board.

To ensure a watertight seal, we'll add an additional layer of cie band to the face of the ctie board. Applying a small amount of th set to the top and bottom edges of the ctie board, we then use the cie band to create a smooth transition between the two materials. The excess th set is wiped off with a damp cloth, leaving only a small bead along the edge of the ctie board.

To secure the cteiboard in place, we'll apply screws using a drywall anchor, making sure not to overtighten. It's essential to keep the screws countersunk into the drywall to maintain a smooth finish.

**Adding Waterproofing and Flashing**

Once the cteiboard is securely fastened, we add an additional layer of waterproofing to ensure that the joint remains watertight. We'll apply a bead of waterproofing material to the edge of the cteiboard, making sure it's evenly distributed along the perimeter.

To add extra protection against water penetration, we'll flash the outside corner with a piece of Cur band, cutting a small slit in the center of the band to allow for easy folding. This will create a watertight seal around the edge of the cteiboard.

**Finishing Touches**

With the cteiboard securely fastened and waterproofed, we move on to the final stages of preparation. We'll use a utility knife to trim any excess th set or cie band, ensuring that the joint is smooth and even.

To complete the transition, we'll apply a small amount of thin set to the edges of the drywall, where it meets the cteiboard. This will help create a seamless finish, hiding the seam between the two materials.

**Tips and Tricks**

When working with cteiboard and drywall, there are several tips and tricks to keep in mind. One essential tip is to ensure that all screws are countersunk into the drywall, maintaining a smooth finish.

Another important consideration is the use of waterproofing material around joints. This will help prevent water from seeping behind the cteiboard and causing damage to the drywall or surrounding areas.

For bathroom remodeling projects, it's essential to have the necessary tools and materials on hand. In this case, we used a utility knife, th set, cie band, Cur band, and screws to complete the job.

**Additional Resources**

For those looking to improve their skills in bathroom remodeling, we recommend checking out our online course at Bathroom Repair Tutor.com (bathroomrepairtutor.com). This comprehensive course covers everything from plumbing and tile installation to finishing touches and advanced techniques. By learning how to tile like a professional, homeowners can create beautiful and functional bathrooms that last for years to come.

By following these steps and tips, you'll be able to embed cteiboard into drywall with ease, creating a seamless transition between the two materials. Remember to always follow safety guidelines and manufacturer instructions when working with power tools and building materials.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enScher cie board is one of the best and easiest ways to waterproof your shower or tubs around before you put your tile up today I'm going to show you how I installed cie board in this 100-year-old bathroom before we start I did want to let you know schlutter is sponsoring today's video it's no-brainer for us because number one we already use Cur board Dietra and Dietra heat and we feel like it could help you out with your own project so this bathtub is a bit of a challenge because we had to reframe everything to the fact that it's 100 years old in a traditional bath room or in a traditional bathtub I would recommend that you start on the first part of the main wall with your shutter cie board today we're not going to do that I'll explain why our wall is plumped to about here then comes out at an angle if you're using 1/ in ctie board like I'm using today it's critical that the studs be 16 in on Center and that the cie board be flush with those studs meaning the cie Board needs to rest flat against those studs so in my case it's really important that whenever the vertical framing comes up it means the angled framing the curry boards sit flush with the angled framing so that's why we're starting in the middle of this wall today it's just easier for me to start in the middle of the wall because of how this bathtub is laid out and that's why we're doing it now you may disagree down in the comments and let me know I'd be more than happy to entertain your feedback but for me I just figured based on the planning it's easier to start in the middle of the wall today and to make sure that the schutter curry board is sitting flush with these darker colored pieces of 2x4 the only thing that you need to install cie board on wood framing are the schutter approved screws and washers the maximum on Center spacing for screws and washers is 12 in so what we're going to do is add a screw every 12 at a minimum every 12 in and wherever two boards meet we're going to pinch a screw in a washer between these two boards connect the two of them but I'll show you that in a second here another really awesome feature about the schutter curry board is the fact that it has all these grid lines on it it makes it super simple to find the studs and to just pinch your washers onto the curry board as luck would have it the center of the stud is right on this line here indicated by the 10 I can run my finger up to about 10 to 12 in and then pinch my screw in the center of that line or in this case sorry my washer and then all I have to do is place the screw through the washer through the cury board and into the framing repeat the process every 10 to 12 in along that same line one way to speed up the process is just take your washers and pinch them right into the curry board then you can drill the screws through the washers so there you go that's pretty easy you can place a screw in a washer between two cie boards so you can pinch them together just like I'm doing here so now that I have the first panel installed I'm going to measure from the top of the TU lip to the bottom of the first cie board I want to get a pretty precise measurement here because I have one big ctie board panel that I'm going to put on the bottom and I need to make an LK cut for a knee wall that's on the back wall of this bathtub so it's a little bit of a complicated cut nothing terrible and certainly having cie board makes it so much easier so all I'm going to do is get the measurement from the top of the top lip to the bottom of the curry board panel at every single stud to get a precise measurement then cut that Curry board panel 34 34 and 58 34 and 58 34 and 58 34 and 3/4 and I need to measure the distance from the plumbing wall to the knee wall and that's 60 in and the height from the top of the tub lip to the top of the knee wall is about 16 and 316 so I need to cut out a little L shape here here in the cie board for the knee wall so it's going to wrap over top of it then the total distance from the plumbing wall to the end of the knee wall is 64 in which is perfect so I transferred all the measurements from the tubs round onto this cie board all you need to do is use a utility knife in a t-square to cut it the cie board is just pinching a little bit tight against this wall here so all I'm going to do is use my utility knife to scribe cut that again that would not have been easy to do with cement board so huge benefit with the cie board for this panel I'm going to place my first washer 3 in up from the board Edge then every 12 in from there so here's the First wall that I did completely done any scrap pieces that you have hanging around you can use those because you can hang the curry boore both vertically so vertically and horizontally the main wall is done now I need to cut a piece of cie board for the plumbing wall there are three holes you need to cut into the cie board one for the tub spout one for the mixing valve and one for the shower arm let's start with the tub spout the tub spout is about 3 and 1 e in off the tub but our cie board is going to sit above the tub lip so the tub spout is about 2 in above the tub lift 15 and 1/2 in over from the wall so this are the two Dimensions you need for the tub spout measuring up off the tub lip and off the main wall you want to do the exact same thing for the mixing valve 15 and 5/8 up off the tub lip and 15 1 12 in Off the Wall here are my measurements on the cie board so I just transferred those measurements onto the surface of the curry board so here's where the tub spout means to be and this is where the mixing valve is going to be located I'm also going to be using the schlutter ctie mixing valve seal so this is my mark for the mixing valve I'm going to eye up the center of this circle with the center of that Mark and then trace the inside of this this is a 4 and 1/2 in circle now alternatively what you can do is just grab a compass and just Trace that outline with with your compass then you can just cut it out out with a utility knife same thing for the tub spout I'm just going to use my utility knife okay so I have a little bit of a funny story for you I forgot to put in an extra piece of blocking this fell right here because this gets me into 16 or less than 16 in on Center which I totally need for the curry board had I not put this extra piece of blocking in I would have been at about 18 in on Center which is no good so had to cut this down the size and put it in here before we put in this Plumbing wall piece of cie board I almost put the installed the cie board then I forgot oh my gosh you know like I got to put this in looks good so this last piece is wonky as well we've got 27 in wide on the bottom and 18 in wide on the top then from the top of this piece of cie board to the center of the shower mixing arm is about 13 yeah about 13 and 1/8 in 5 and 1 E inch over from this side of the cie board so let's go cut that so here's how I make those wonky Cuts I measured 18 in over from the right and 27 in over from the right as well so I have my 27 my 18in mark there take a straight edge or in this case a tsquare and just connect the dots so 13 and8 in up is right here you know this is really why these grid lines are so awesome because now all I have to do is line that up line up my mark there and Mark 5 in over and there you go that's where the shower arm is going to be before we forget I'm just going to Mark the location of the studs on the ceiling then I'm just putting in a little sliver of cie board right next to the tub now in case you're wondering there is a gap here this is the door Jam I'm going to fill this in with Cy fix and then I have to flash over the screws the CI fix and a portion of the jam with ctie band because actually in this case the casing for the door this bathroom is so small that the casing for the door is going to go be actually in the shower but I have a solution for that because I'm going to be tacking it in place with either silicone or Cy fix and that casing is going to be made out of P DC so it won't be made out of wood it'll be impervious to water um it just this bathroom is so tight and so crazy wonky that that was the only way that we could fit the tub in tile and the door casing and make it look halfway not insane here's the knee wall I'm choosing to place the curry board on the face of the knee wall first then I'm choosing to do the top of the KNE wall next you want to place a washer and a screw in every single stud that's supporting the knee wall and the final board I'm just going to place on top of the tub lip like we did before and line it up with the top of the cie board here and the side of the cie board on the pony wall and finally this little piece right here the next step is to tape off the bathtub because what we're going to do is Seal between the tub and the cie board using cie fix I have some extra frog tape laying around this is just painters tape so I'm going to use this and again we're doing this because you don't want the cry fix to get onto the main part of the bathtub you can fill in the gap between the tub and the cie board using C fix C fix comes with these applicators and you can cut them to size I cut this one pretty big and you just spin the applicator onto the cie fix so in this case the cie board is sitting on top of the tub flange so that's why we need to fill it in with cie fix what I like too is that the Cy fix actually covers up the screw here and the screw is another point where water can penetrate through the tub and into your surround so it's nice that the Cur fix actually covers up the screw now this is a personal preference of mine and because where the tub meets the wall or in this case the knee wall that's a place for water penetration what I'm going to do is apply a be of Curry fix up this seam here I'm going to do the same thing on the other side of the tub and because this door jam meets the cie board I'm going to add cie fix right here as well this is a little bit of a unique situation so so that's why I'm doing this schuda recommends using a notch trial for this I unfortunately forgot mine at home I just have this 3-in Tri and what I'm going to do is just ensure that this cie fix is nice and embedded between the tub and the cie board and if you find yourself Having excess ctie fix on your TR you can just get a scrap piece of ctie or a drywall and just wipe your TR off on that so for this bead of Cy fix I'm just going to use a a rag to smooth it out there are two different ways to waterproof where the tub spout and the shower arm enter through the cie board one is with Cy fix so I can simply fill this in with cie fix I can smooth this out and I do realize I got some Curry fix on the tub you can just wipe this off with your finger or with a damp drag it it should come right off so again I can do the exact same thing right here but I'm going to actually hold off because what we're going to do is actually take this uh little Contraption out to install the shower arm later on so I'm going to hold off on doing this right now the next step is to mix up unmodified thin set in this case we're going to be using map's carab bond in white when you mix up your thin set follow the directions to a tea that come on the bag so it's always good to put a little bit of water in the bucket that way the thin set won't stick to the bottom of the bucket as much now to mix this up I'm just using a hammer drill or a/2 in drill with a mixer on the end of it so you really don't want any lumps in your thin set there are a few lumps in here so I'm going to mix this up a little bit better but you want there to be a fluid consistency you just want it to barely fall off the TR and this is the consistency that you want for embedding the cie band into the cie board now to install the cie band onto the ctie board you can use two different types of TRS you can use a 1/4 in X 3/16 vnch TR or you can use the schitter ctie TR which is 1/8 by 1/8 in square Notch trial I also recommend that you have a bucket of water with a sponge that to help you out with this process you'll see why in a second now when it comes to applying the unmodified thin set to the ctie board where the transition is with the tub and the ctie fix you can use the flat side of the CTI trout so flat side or you can use a 6 in joint compound knife like what I'm going to do cuz this is a very very tight space so I just like using a smaller tool just like with join compound I'm just going to comb or key the thin set into the cry bit board with the flat side of this well there's only one flat side of this 6 in joint compound KN I'm just going to do this the entire way around the tub surr and then you can comb in additional thin set with the grooved side of the trout then we're going to embed the cie band into the unmodified thin set and cie F so we're just going to start here and work our way over and then when you get to the tub spout you can cut a hole in the cie band now as I work my way over to the next wall I'm just embedding the ctie band into the unmodified thin set here you definitely want to smooth out the unmodified thin set and work out all the air bubbles that are behind the ctie band after installing the ctie band over the ctie fix it's now a good time to remove the tape so because this transition between the tub and the cie board is so important if you pull the tape up and the cie band comes off a little bit because it's stuck to the cie fix just make sure that you reemed it or you make sure that it's completely flushed with the wall using your joint compound knife so the 6in knife or the ctie the ctie TR so that's what I'm doing you definitely want to make sure that this is smoothed out here that you shouldn't have any big clumps of thin set on the wall because that's going to impede the progress of your tile and mess it up a little bit so you know smooth out smooth out this transition as much as possible and in particular around the tub spout because this be this is kind of a prime culprit for the ctie fix or the unmodified thin set creating an air bubble or a big Clump so just double check to make sure that this is nice and smooth here anywhere you have a cie board joint just like with a drywall joint you need to seal it with unmodified thin set and the ctie band so I'm going to do all the horizontal joints next now this is a little bit of a weird joint because it's at an angle so what I'm going to do is just fill it in like that so I did the bottom part first I'll just do the the top part next and again you can use the cie tri to do this I just prefer to use a 6in joint compound knife it's just little bit uh less cumbersome for me in this tight space then you want to go back and key in more unmodified finset using the square notched portion of the ctie trout so you just want to Center the ctie band on top of the seam here's a little tip you can place your TR your ctie TR there and then smooth out the ctie band so I'm just going to do the exact same thing up above and then again just combing in additional thin set finding that joint rolling the curry band into the center of the joint which is right here making sure there are no air bubbles behind this and I have one more horizontal joint right here so I'm just going to use a damp sponge to smooth that thin set out a little bit more now it's time to do all the vertical joints again very very tight space so I'm going to use my 6-in knife so you saw me do the vertical joint that way another possible way of doing it is this way you load up one half of your drywall knife you just slide it down like that very much like drywalling or applying join compound the drywall so you can put a crease in cie band like I'm doing now for corners and I'm getting the C band as flush with the ceiling as possible because this this wall is at an angle and it goes down to a plum wall we have a little bit of an issue in the corner but not a problem I talked to my local schlutter rep about this issue Roger who is awesome and what we talked about was this you're just going to cut this right here you're going to fold down the top side and then fold the top part over it now before you do that you want to apply some thin set into it and comb it in you just fold it over and then you smooth that out what you can do is Place another piece of cie band over top of it if you want for additional waterproofing so for example little thin piece of cie band right here I'm just going to embed that over top of that cut which was right here then you can embed the rest of the cie band into the corner so another tip is you can hold the cie band in place with your trout so you apply pressure to the trout and then you smooth it out with your joint compound knife as I have a lot of thin set on this wall I'm just going to use a a damp sponge to take the excess off and also inspect the cie band while I'm doing that I do do see there's like a little bit of a lip right there so and definitely if you get anything set on your drywall get it off immediately you're not going to be able to sand that down too easy easily so now we're going to use this mixing valve seal for the mixing valve this is what the schutter mixing valve seal looks like there is a thicker P part to it this is the thinner part right here you want to put the thicker part into the wall and I highly recommend that you test to make sure that this actually fits before applying the thin set the unmodified thin set to the cie board so this fits we're just going to install it so again you just apply unmodified thin set all around the mixing valve area and by the way if you get thin set on your mixing valve remove it you don't want it to harden on the mixing valve especially when it comes to these integral shut offs and then just like with every other part of the cie band you want to comb out the thin set and then just embed the mixing valve seal and again I'm just going to use a damp sponge to lightly remove some of the thin set and by the way you can use a similar seal for the shower arm that'll be holding on to your shower head I'm just going to hold off on that for right now CU I have some other work to do in this bathroom so I'm going to finish off this wall with one vertical piece of cie band now in this case I have a little bit of a weird setup I know that my casing excuse me my door jam for my my casing is right here here and I don't want to go more than a/4 in in from the edge of that so what I'm actually going to do is line up the cie band with the jam and just roll it down like so so when we got to the tub here I made a cut or a slit in it I'm just going to cut my cie band with scissors and have that run the whole way to the bottom here so again I realize there's a little bit of a gap here this is where the C fix is if I wanted to I can again put a little piece of Curry band over top of that just because I love being safe that's what I'm going to do you know put a little bit of th set over top of this comb that and embed this piece so I'm going to start in the center of the band and work my way to the top so again I have two vertical joints on the main wall and we're just going to overlap the a modified thin set by 2 in on all bands so you always want a 2in overlap with all cie bands so I have this vertical joint here with the purple board in the bathroom I'm going to apply Curry band over top of that seam as well but I'm only going to go down to right about here because this is where the drywall continues to go down at a steeper angle so I'll have to wrap this corner in cie band I already cut this cie band a little bit to wrap around so I'll have it wrap around whenever I go to wrap this with the curry band and again just centering on the seam so now we have to waterproof the pony wall I'm going to crease a piece of cie band we're going to embed this creased piece like so and we're going to cover up these screws here you really want this to fit tight so you know just double check that there are no air pockets or anything I'm going to put another layer of thin set over top of this because I need to embed a second piece of cie band on top of the knee wall or pony wall on the other side here I'm also going to put some thin set on the drywall you're just going to comb this out and on the drywall side too now remember we need a 2in overlap so that's exactly what we're going to do we're going to overlap the other piece of Curry Band by 2 in I'm just going to smooth this out with a damp sponge and then remove all the th set off the drywall that's on the other side here now we're going to waterproof this side of the knee wall so I precut this piece of ctie band to fit in this slot so that's what we're going to do we're going to just embed it in here like so now keep in mind we do have waterproofing here already so even if there's a little bit of Gap there it's not an issue we're going to fold it over we're actually going to put another piece of cie band on the face of the ctie board so I put a little bit of thet on the top here and on the other side where the drywall is and then what I'm going to do is overlap to the top here I'm going to scooch this over a bit then I'm going to make a small cut here being careful not to cut myself and not to cut the ctie band and the reason why is we're going to fold these over I'll show you so I made that little cut there I'm just going to fold this piece over like so then I'm going to dab a little bit th set over top of that and then fold this back over that so then we're just going to smooth out this piece of cie band and fold it over the drywall I did want to show you that I had a few air bubbles here but I just ran my finger up the side of the cie band and worked the air bubbles out of it because you're going to want this transition to be as smooth as possible because we're going to thin not thin set but we're going to put joint compound over this once we get our tile in so for this outside corner I bought a schutter ctie outside corner to go like that so we're going to use that right here to make sure this transition is waterproof then I'm going to do my 2in overlap for this corner and then my final vertical joint is this wonky little one right here all you have to do is your waterproofing the drywall the cie board transition this will not get wet because there's going to be a glass partition here but still just for the heck of it what we're going to do is Flash it with a piece of Cur band like this down here I made a little slit so I can just fold that over this is completely waterproof because of our outside corner piece and because we flashed over the knee wall or the pony wall so all we have to do is put this piece in and again just wiping off the excess thin set and every screw washer needs to be covered by unmodified thin set in a small piece of Curry band this is about a 5x 5 in piece so again just filling in coming over and embedding the Cur B and finally just sponging off any excess thin set I get this question a lot what do you do at the cie board to drywall ceiling transition well you don't necessarily have to do anything I mean water shouldn't be spraying up onto the ceiling and going onto the ctie board this far up but if you're really really concerned about it you can put a bead of cie fix between the cie board and the drywall ceiling so that is one option if you're really concerned about the water hitting that far up on the ceiling and really your last step should be to clean off the bathtub and make sure that there's no unmodified thin set on it or C fix and it looks good to go because when that thin set dries or CT fix dries um not so much C fix cuz you can actually take that off with like I said a razor scraper but you don't want to have to do that unless you absolutely have to so clean off the bathtub the best you can before you wrap up for the day cie board is way easier to use than cement board in these older bathrooms you can cut it with a utility knife you can position it where you want it has R value to it so it helps with the insulation of outside walls also it has a 10-year warranty which is super important if you're an installer or a homeowner using this plus if you have a question about how they install it you can always call a schutter on their 800 number and their technical support is phenomenal if you want to take your bathroom remodeling to the next level learn how to tile like we did here put in the plumbing put in the tub a floor Etc you should check out bathroom repair.com that's our online course for anybody looking to refine their bathroom remodeling skills and do it like a professional would we really think it could help you out you should check it check out the website if you are in the middle of doing a bathroom remodel where you want some extra help with that again it's just bathroom repairt tutor.com thanks for watching today's video I hope it helped you out make sure to ask any questions you want down in the comments and I'd be more than happy to assist you take careScher cie board is one of the best and easiest ways to waterproof your shower or tubs around before you put your tile up today I'm going to show you how I installed cie board in this 100-year-old bathroom before we start I did want to let you know schlutter is sponsoring today's video it's no-brainer for us because number one we already use Cur board Dietra and Dietra heat and we feel like it could help you out with your own project so this bathtub is a bit of a challenge because we had to reframe everything to the fact that it's 100 years old in a traditional bath room or in a traditional bathtub I would recommend that you start on the first part of the main wall with your shutter cie board today we're not going to do that I'll explain why our wall is plumped to about here then comes out at an angle if you're using 1/ in ctie board like I'm using today it's critical that the studs be 16 in on Center and that the cie board be flush with those studs meaning the cie Board needs to rest flat against those studs so in my case it's really important that whenever the vertical framing comes up it means the angled framing the curry boards sit flush with the angled framing so that's why we're starting in the middle of this wall today it's just easier for me to start in the middle of the wall because of how this bathtub is laid out and that's why we're doing it now you may disagree down in the comments and let me know I'd be more than happy to entertain your feedback but for me I just figured based on the planning it's easier to start in the middle of the wall today and to make sure that the schutter curry board is sitting flush with these darker colored pieces of 2x4 the only thing that you need to install cie board on wood framing are the schutter approved screws and washers the maximum on Center spacing for screws and washers is 12 in so what we're going to do is add a screw every 12 at a minimum every 12 in and wherever two boards meet we're going to pinch a screw in a washer between these two boards connect the two of them but I'll show you that in a second here another really awesome feature about the schutter curry board is the fact that it has all these grid lines on it it makes it super simple to find the studs and to just pinch your washers onto the curry board as luck would have it the center of the stud is right on this line here indicated by the 10 I can run my finger up to about 10 to 12 in and then pinch my screw in the center of that line or in this case sorry my washer and then all I have to do is place the screw through the washer through the cury board and into the framing repeat the process every 10 to 12 in along that same line one way to speed up the process is just take your washers and pinch them right into the curry board then you can drill the screws through the washers so there you go that's pretty easy you can place a screw in a washer between two cie boards so you can pinch them together just like I'm doing here so now that I have the first panel installed I'm going to measure from the top of the TU lip to the bottom of the first cie board I want to get a pretty precise measurement here because I have one big ctie board panel that I'm going to put on the bottom and I need to make an LK cut for a knee wall that's on the back wall of this bathtub so it's a little bit of a complicated cut nothing terrible and certainly having cie board makes it so much easier so all I'm going to do is get the measurement from the top of the top lip to the bottom of the curry board panel at every single stud to get a precise measurement then cut that Curry board panel 34 34 and 58 34 and 58 34 and 58 34 and 3/4 and I need to measure the distance from the plumbing wall to the knee wall and that's 60 in and the height from the top of the tub lip to the top of the knee wall is about 16 and 316 so I need to cut out a little L shape here here in the cie board for the knee wall so it's going to wrap over top of it then the total distance from the plumbing wall to the end of the knee wall is 64 in which is perfect so I transferred all the measurements from the tubs round onto this cie board all you need to do is use a utility knife in a t-square to cut it the cie board is just pinching a little bit tight against this wall here so all I'm going to do is use my utility knife to scribe cut that again that would not have been easy to do with cement board so huge benefit with the cie board for this panel I'm going to place my first washer 3 in up from the board Edge then every 12 in from there so here's the First wall that I did completely done any scrap pieces that you have hanging around you can use those because you can hang the curry boore both vertically so vertically and horizontally the main wall is done now I need to cut a piece of cie board for the plumbing wall there are three holes you need to cut into the cie board one for the tub spout one for the mixing valve and one for the shower arm let's start with the tub spout the tub spout is about 3 and 1 e in off the tub but our cie board is going to sit above the tub lip so the tub spout is about 2 in above the tub lift 15 and 1/2 in over from the wall so this are the two Dimensions you need for the tub spout measuring up off the tub lip and off the main wall you want to do the exact same thing for the mixing valve 15 and 5/8 up off the tub lip and 15 1 12 in Off the Wall here are my measurements on the cie board so I just transferred those measurements onto the surface of the curry board so here's where the tub spout means to be and this is where the mixing valve is going to be located I'm also going to be using the schlutter ctie mixing valve seal so this is my mark for the mixing valve I'm going to eye up the center of this circle with the center of that Mark and then trace the inside of this this is a 4 and 1/2 in circle now alternatively what you can do is just grab a compass and just Trace that outline with with your compass then you can just cut it out out with a utility knife same thing for the tub spout I'm just going to use my utility knife okay so I have a little bit of a funny story for you I forgot to put in an extra piece of blocking this fell right here because this gets me into 16 or less than 16 in on Center which I totally need for the curry board had I not put this extra piece of blocking in I would have been at about 18 in on Center which is no good so had to cut this down the size and put it in here before we put in this Plumbing wall piece of cie board I almost put the installed the cie board then I forgot oh my gosh you know like I got to put this in looks good so this last piece is wonky as well we've got 27 in wide on the bottom and 18 in wide on the top then from the top of this piece of cie board to the center of the shower mixing arm is about 13 yeah about 13 and 1/8 in 5 and 1 E inch over from this side of the cie board so let's go cut that so here's how I make those wonky Cuts I measured 18 in over from the right and 27 in over from the right as well so I have my 27 my 18in mark there take a straight edge or in this case a tsquare and just connect the dots so 13 and8 in up is right here you know this is really why these grid lines are so awesome because now all I have to do is line that up line up my mark there and Mark 5 in over and there you go that's where the shower arm is going to be before we forget I'm just going to Mark the location of the studs on the ceiling then I'm just putting in a little sliver of cie board right next to the tub now in case you're wondering there is a gap here this is the door Jam I'm going to fill this in with Cy fix and then I have to flash over the screws the CI fix and a portion of the jam with ctie band because actually in this case the casing for the door this bathroom is so small that the casing for the door is going to go be actually in the shower but I have a solution for that because I'm going to be tacking it in place with either silicone or Cy fix and that casing is going to be made out of P DC so it won't be made out of wood it'll be impervious to water um it just this bathroom is so tight and so crazy wonky that that was the only way that we could fit the tub in tile and the door casing and make it look halfway not insane here's the knee wall I'm choosing to place the curry board on the face of the knee wall first then I'm choosing to do the top of the KNE wall next you want to place a washer and a screw in every single stud that's supporting the knee wall and the final board I'm just going to place on top of the tub lip like we did before and line it up with the top of the cie board here and the side of the cie board on the pony wall and finally this little piece right here the next step is to tape off the bathtub because what we're going to do is Seal between the tub and the cie board using cie fix I have some extra frog tape laying around this is just painters tape so I'm going to use this and again we're doing this because you don't want the cry fix to get onto the main part of the bathtub you can fill in the gap between the tub and the cie board using C fix C fix comes with these applicators and you can cut them to size I cut this one pretty big and you just spin the applicator onto the cie fix so in this case the cie board is sitting on top of the tub flange so that's why we need to fill it in with cie fix what I like too is that the Cy fix actually covers up the screw here and the screw is another point where water can penetrate through the tub and into your surround so it's nice that the Cur fix actually covers up the screw now this is a personal preference of mine and because where the tub meets the wall or in this case the knee wall that's a place for water penetration what I'm going to do is apply a be of Curry fix up this seam here I'm going to do the same thing on the other side of the tub and because this door jam meets the cie board I'm going to add cie fix right here as well this is a little bit of a unique situation so so that's why I'm doing this schuda recommends using a notch trial for this I unfortunately forgot mine at home I just have this 3-in Tri and what I'm going to do is just ensure that this cie fix is nice and embedded between the tub and the cie board and if you find yourself Having excess ctie fix on your TR you can just get a scrap piece of ctie or a drywall and just wipe your TR off on that so for this bead of Cy fix I'm just going to use a a rag to smooth it out there are two different ways to waterproof where the tub spout and the shower arm enter through the cie board one is with Cy fix so I can simply fill this in with cie fix I can smooth this out and I do realize I got some Curry fix on the tub you can just wipe this off with your finger or with a damp drag it it should come right off so again I can do the exact same thing right here but I'm going to actually hold off because what we're going to do is actually take this uh little Contraption out to install the shower arm later on so I'm going to hold off on doing this right now the next step is to mix up unmodified thin set in this case we're going to be using map's carab bond in white when you mix up your thin set follow the directions to a tea that come on the bag so it's always good to put a little bit of water in the bucket that way the thin set won't stick to the bottom of the bucket as much now to mix this up I'm just using a hammer drill or a/2 in drill with a mixer on the end of it so you really don't want any lumps in your thin set there are a few lumps in here so I'm going to mix this up a little bit better but you want there to be a fluid consistency you just want it to barely fall off the TR and this is the consistency that you want for embedding the cie band into the cie board now to install the cie band onto the ctie board you can use two different types of TRS you can use a 1/4 in X 3/16 vnch TR or you can use the schitter ctie TR which is 1/8 by 1/8 in square Notch trial I also recommend that you have a bucket of water with a sponge that to help you out with this process you'll see why in a second now when it comes to applying the unmodified thin set to the ctie board where the transition is with the tub and the ctie fix you can use the flat side of the CTI trout so flat side or you can use a 6 in joint compound knife like what I'm going to do cuz this is a very very tight space so I just like using a smaller tool just like with join compound I'm just going to comb or key the thin set into the cry bit board with the flat side of this well there's only one flat side of this 6 in joint compound KN I'm just going to do this the entire way around the tub surr and then you can comb in additional thin set with the grooved side of the trout then we're going to embed the cie band into the unmodified thin set and cie F so we're just going to start here and work our way over and then when you get to the tub spout you can cut a hole in the cie band now as I work my way over to the next wall I'm just embedding the ctie band into the unmodified thin set here you definitely want to smooth out the unmodified thin set and work out all the air bubbles that are behind the ctie band after installing the ctie band over the ctie fix it's now a good time to remove the tape so because this transition between the tub and the cie board is so important if you pull the tape up and the cie band comes off a little bit because it's stuck to the cie fix just make sure that you reemed it or you make sure that it's completely flushed with the wall using your joint compound knife so the 6in knife or the ctie the ctie TR so that's what I'm doing you definitely want to make sure that this is smoothed out here that you shouldn't have any big clumps of thin set on the wall because that's going to impede the progress of your tile and mess it up a little bit so you know smooth out smooth out this transition as much as possible and in particular around the tub spout because this be this is kind of a prime culprit for the ctie fix or the unmodified thin set creating an air bubble or a big Clump so just double check to make sure that this is nice and smooth here anywhere you have a cie board joint just like with a drywall joint you need to seal it with unmodified thin set and the ctie band so I'm going to do all the horizontal joints next now this is a little bit of a weird joint because it's at an angle so what I'm going to do is just fill it in like that so I did the bottom part first I'll just do the the top part next and again you can use the cie tri to do this I just prefer to use a 6in joint compound knife it's just little bit uh less cumbersome for me in this tight space then you want to go back and key in more unmodified finset using the square notched portion of the ctie trout so you just want to Center the ctie band on top of the seam here's a little tip you can place your TR your ctie TR there and then smooth out the ctie band so I'm just going to do the exact same thing up above and then again just combing in additional thin set finding that joint rolling the curry band into the center of the joint which is right here making sure there are no air bubbles behind this and I have one more horizontal joint right here so I'm just going to use a damp sponge to smooth that thin set out a little bit more now it's time to do all the vertical joints again very very tight space so I'm going to use my 6-in knife so you saw me do the vertical joint that way another possible way of doing it is this way you load up one half of your drywall knife you just slide it down like that very much like drywalling or applying join compound the drywall so you can put a crease in cie band like I'm doing now for corners and I'm getting the C band as flush with the ceiling as possible because this this wall is at an angle and it goes down to a plum wall we have a little bit of an issue in the corner but not a problem I talked to my local schlutter rep about this issue Roger who is awesome and what we talked about was this you're just going to cut this right here you're going to fold down the top side and then fold the top part over it now before you do that you want to apply some thin set into it and comb it in you just fold it over and then you smooth that out what you can do is Place another piece of cie band over top of it if you want for additional waterproofing so for example little thin piece of cie band right here I'm just going to embed that over top of that cut which was right here then you can embed the rest of the cie band into the corner so another tip is you can hold the cie band in place with your trout so you apply pressure to the trout and then you smooth it out with your joint compound knife as I have a lot of thin set on this wall I'm just going to use a a damp sponge to take the excess off and also inspect the cie band while I'm doing that I do do see there's like a little bit of a lip right there so and definitely if you get anything set on your drywall get it off immediately you're not going to be able to sand that down too easy easily so now we're going to use this mixing valve seal for the mixing valve this is what the schutter mixing valve seal looks like there is a thicker P part to it this is the thinner part right here you want to put the thicker part into the wall and I highly recommend that you test to make sure that this actually fits before applying the thin set the unmodified thin set to the cie board so this fits we're just going to install it so again you just apply unmodified thin set all around the mixing valve area and by the way if you get thin set on your mixing valve remove it you don't want it to harden on the mixing valve especially when it comes to these integral shut offs and then just like with every other part of the cie band you want to comb out the thin set and then just embed the mixing valve seal and again I'm just going to use a damp sponge to lightly remove some of the thin set and by the way you can use a similar seal for the shower arm that'll be holding on to your shower head I'm just going to hold off on that for right now CU I have some other work to do in this bathroom so I'm going to finish off this wall with one vertical piece of cie band now in this case I have a little bit of a weird setup I know that my casing excuse me my door jam for my my casing is right here here and I don't want to go more than a/4 in in from the edge of that so what I'm actually going to do is line up the cie band with the jam and just roll it down like so so when we got to the tub here I made a cut or a slit in it I'm just going to cut my cie band with scissors and have that run the whole way to the bottom here so again I realize there's a little bit of a gap here this is where the C fix is if I wanted to I can again put a little piece of Curry band over top of that just because I love being safe that's what I'm going to do you know put a little bit of th set over top of this comb that and embed this piece so I'm going to start in the center of the band and work my way to the top so again I have two vertical joints on the main wall and we're just going to overlap the a modified thin set by 2 in on all bands so you always want a 2in overlap with all cie bands so I have this vertical joint here with the purple board in the bathroom I'm going to apply Curry band over top of that seam as well but I'm only going to go down to right about here because this is where the drywall continues to go down at a steeper angle so I'll have to wrap this corner in cie band I already cut this cie band a little bit to wrap around so I'll have it wrap around whenever I go to wrap this with the curry band and again just centering on the seam so now we have to waterproof the pony wall I'm going to crease a piece of cie band we're going to embed this creased piece like so and we're going to cover up these screws here you really want this to fit tight so you know just double check that there are no air pockets or anything I'm going to put another layer of thin set over top of this because I need to embed a second piece of cie band on top of the knee wall or pony wall on the other side here I'm also going to put some thin set on the drywall you're just going to comb this out and on the drywall side too now remember we need a 2in overlap so that's exactly what we're going to do we're going to overlap the other piece of Curry Band by 2 in I'm just going to smooth this out with a damp sponge and then remove all the th set off the drywall that's on the other side here now we're going to waterproof this side of the knee wall so I precut this piece of ctie band to fit in this slot so that's what we're going to do we're going to just embed it in here like so now keep in mind we do have waterproofing here already so even if there's a little bit of Gap there it's not an issue we're going to fold it over we're actually going to put another piece of cie band on the face of the ctie board so I put a little bit of thet on the top here and on the other side where the drywall is and then what I'm going to do is overlap to the top here I'm going to scooch this over a bit then I'm going to make a small cut here being careful not to cut myself and not to cut the ctie band and the reason why is we're going to fold these over I'll show you so I made that little cut there I'm just going to fold this piece over like so then I'm going to dab a little bit th set over top of that and then fold this back over that so then we're just going to smooth out this piece of cie band and fold it over the drywall I did want to show you that I had a few air bubbles here but I just ran my finger up the side of the cie band and worked the air bubbles out of it because you're going to want this transition to be as smooth as possible because we're going to thin not thin set but we're going to put joint compound over this once we get our tile in so for this outside corner I bought a schutter ctie outside corner to go like that so we're going to use that right here to make sure this transition is waterproof then I'm going to do my 2in overlap for this corner and then my final vertical joint is this wonky little one right here all you have to do is your waterproofing the drywall the cie board transition this will not get wet because there's going to be a glass partition here but still just for the heck of it what we're going to do is Flash it with a piece of Cur band like this down here I made a little slit so I can just fold that over this is completely waterproof because of our outside corner piece and because we flashed over the knee wall or the pony wall so all we have to do is put this piece in and again just wiping off the excess thin set and every screw washer needs to be covered by unmodified thin set in a small piece of Curry band this is about a 5x 5 in piece so again just filling in coming over and embedding the Cur B and finally just sponging off any excess thin set I get this question a lot what do you do at the cie board to drywall ceiling transition well you don't necessarily have to do anything I mean water shouldn't be spraying up onto the ceiling and going onto the ctie board this far up but if you're really really concerned about it you can put a bead of cie fix between the cie board and the drywall ceiling so that is one option if you're really concerned about the water hitting that far up on the ceiling and really your last step should be to clean off the bathtub and make sure that there's no unmodified thin set on it or C fix and it looks good to go because when that thin set dries or CT fix dries um not so much C fix cuz you can actually take that off with like I said a razor scraper but you don't want to have to do that unless you absolutely have to so clean off the bathtub the best you can before you wrap up for the day cie board is way easier to use than cement board in these older bathrooms you can cut it with a utility knife you can position it where you want it has R value to it so it helps with the insulation of outside walls also it has a 10-year warranty which is super important if you're an installer or a homeowner using this plus if you have a question about how they install it you can always call a schutter on their 800 number and their technical support is phenomenal if you want to take your bathroom remodeling to the next level learn how to tile like we did here put in the plumbing put in the tub a floor Etc you should check out bathroom repair.com that's our online course for anybody looking to refine their bathroom remodeling skills and do it like a professional would we really think it could help you out you should check it check out the website if you are in the middle of doing a bathroom remodel where you want some extra help with that again it's just bathroom repairt tutor.com thanks for watching today's video I hope it helped you out make sure to ask any questions you want down in the comments and I'd be more than happy to assist you take care\n"