$800 Brakes vs $4700 Brakes

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**Back to the Track: Lap Times**

Now it's time for the test that really matters – lap times! Adam, last time we were here, already ran a 1:27.65 in Low car, and we're still gonna count that time. But today is a different day, with different track conditions and a different car. So we're all gonna take a lap and make sure we're giving everything a good, fair chance.

**Jerry's First Lap**

Jerry's the first one up, and he's in Low car right now. Oh, I got him at 1:29.12... 1:29.17... 1:29.34. Almost, dang it! But Jerry's still out there pushing his limits!

**Hi Car Takes a Turn**

And Jerry's out in Hi car, so let's see what the boy can do. 1:32.87, which unfortunately makes sense. It does. The car seems like it's a little bit hurt. And a 1:32.44. The car is definitely down on power. It's definitely slower than Low car currently, which hurts my heart.

**Adam Takes the Wheel**

But hey, we're sending Adam out in Hi car anyway. He'll probably beat our bad times. Maybe we're just driving it wrong. Yeah. Maybe the thing's sorting itself out, straightening up.

**The Finish Line**

Oh, he's flying! Holy crap! Wait til he comes around. There he is. Oh, oh, oh, oh... Oh (beep) Was that the exhaust? It was. Finish her, Adam. Just finish her, Adam, please god. Put her out of her misery.

**The Results**

All right, so Adam was not able to beat his best time of 1:27.65. I think we might have something going on. Something in there is not having fun. But when it comes to brakes, I think we've got a clear winner – Hi car wins!

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WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: en(car engine revving)(brakes screeching)- Stop, stop, stop.Oh, oh, oh.- Oh shoot.- This is an AP racing highperformance big brake kitthat I just bought for $4,700.- And this is a Dickase big brake kitthat I bought for $850.- But just because these aresix times more expensive,does it mean they'resix times more better?- Today we're gonna installthese big brake kitson our WRXs, then test them head to headout on the track.- Does more expensive mean more better?- Let's find out.- You also might be wondering why our carsare all under wraps.Stay tuned to find out.Welcome to Donut.Upgrading your brakes is importantto anyone who wants tospend time on the track.The intense and constantbraking can lead tobrake fade when your brakes get so hotthat they become less effectiveor stop working entirely.A big brake kit offers alonger window of performancebefore you experience fade.Less fade means longer and harder racing,which in theory means faster lap times.- Oh wow.- Wow.So I bought this AP Racingbig brake kit for $4,700.Didn't come with pads.So I have bought this Ferodoset of pads for 280 bones.With these Ferodos, I certainly will bethe lord of the ring.(audience booing)- I bought...(upbeat music)What?I bought this Dickasebig brake kit for $850.So yeah, James, first impression,my Dickase is...(James snickers)- Sponsored by Wiener Butthole Racing.- I'm astounded that we got this for $850.I'm a little skeptical,but who knows?- Well there's only one way to find out.Let's get 'em on ourcars and go to the track.But before we do, I'vegot a little surprisefor everybody.These aren't just any WRXs, all right?This is Hi car and this is Low car,but we don't want 'emto look like any otherWRXs on the planet.So we got 'em wrapped.- Yeah, they just got back onthe wrap shop this morning.We haven't seen it.- I don't know what James's looks like.- I don't know what yours looks like.So I got Hi car wrapped in this.Oh boy.- Wow.- Yeah, high car is pretty.Jade green baby, color of money.Green and gold.That means me and Zach are rich AF.- Dude, it's nice.- It's classy.- It's nice.- Fun fact, this is the color that weoriginally wanted to make the Hi Z.- Really?- Yeah.- Oh, thatwould've been interesting.- Now I have no ideawhat color your car is.- Okay.- The anticipation is killing me.I hope you will love it.- Well, let's see what Low car looks like.I said...- Oh, wow.Classic Low car color.Dude, this hurts my eyes.It's so bright.- Yeah.- Dude, this is awesome.I'm so glad you did this.Dude, gotta be loud. I love it.You know, we've got liketwo styles emerging.We've got kind of clean, classy JDM ishand like loud high school kid.(James laughs)- Now obviously, one ofthese looks way betterand I can't wait to findout which one's faster.Now let's get those brakeson and get to the track.- All right, Eddie. You're with me today.Just like old times.- Old times.- You're gonna do some brakes today.You remember how to do that.First thing's first, gonnapop off all the wheels.- The braking power of these tireswas actually really impressive.Really livened the car up.So I'm really looking forward to seeingwhat those Dickase brakescan do out on the track.Let's get these stock guys off.- Brake installs are pretty easyand they're pretty rewarding,especially if you have terriblebrakes like we do currently.First thing you gotta do is just take offall the old stuff thatyou're gonna be replacing.For us and our kit, thatmeans we're gonna be replacingour rotors, our calipers, the pads,and these soft rubber lines.So the first thing I'mgonna do is crack this line,let the fluid drain.Then I'll pull the caliper off,then I'll pull therotor, and then it's timeto put on some new sweet AP Racing parts.Usually some fluid comes out.Maybe that's partiallywhy our pedal was so soft,but we're not gonna fix stock brakes.We're gonna replace 'em withsome real expensive brakes.Let's compare these big brake kits,starting with our calipers.Both have six pistons,although yours are aluminum,mine are stainless steel.Stainless steel apparentlyhandles heat a lot better.- AP has scientific reasoningfor everything they do, whereas Dickase,maybe like one or two sentences,sounds very marketing.- Onto pads. The AP Racing big brake kitdoesn't come with pads,and on their website,they say it's because they onlysell to serious race teams.Okay, serious race teams like me and Zach.- These are the padsthat came in the Dickase.The only visual differences really is likevery large chunks of media compared toa very smooth composition here.I'll be honest, I have no idea whatthat really means between these two.- And finally, our rotors.Both are 14 inch. Both are multi-piece.Both have the same amount of slots.On the back of ourbrakes, every other bolthas these little retainers on it.That allows it to expandwhen they heat up,and brakes do get hot.- Very hot.- And that reducesstress from the component.- This, there's a possibilitythat these get super hot.The expansion puts a lot ofstress on this guy right here.Maybe warps to a degree thatjust inhibits performance.So that's a very cool feature right there.Not something that I would'vethought of, but pretty rad.You have like these little jays.- They're called jay swooshesand according to AP's website,they are very cool, and thisis the best way to do it,and they make a whoosh soundwhen I apply the brakes.- We just havekind of like a standardkind of vein there.Overall, I'm just so impressedthat these are only 850 bucks.That also is kind of worrying.Since your brakes aremounted at the wheel endof your suspension, they contribute a lotto what's called unsprung weight.- Your unsprung weight greatly affectsyour ride quality and handling.Generally speaking, theless weight the better.So let's weigh these boys.- Hello.- Hello.- Hello.First up, stock brake assembly.- 25.4 pounds.- All right, let's seehow much the (beep) weigh.- 33.4 pounds.- It's way bigger.- 33.6 pounds.- That's 33.6.- And it's gaining weight.- It's gaining weight.- Obviously, we knew thatthey were gonna weigh more.I mean they're way bigger,both the caliper and the rotor.But that's just--- Goodbye.- I hate this thing.Let's see what my eight--- Hello.It's ready.- There we go.- It's ready.- 28.6 pounds- Wow. Five poundslighter than the Dickases.Now enough science (beep).Let's go wrench like a bunch of dummies.- The Low car's chugging along.We got a guy at each corner.Poor Zach Jobe over therehas to do it all by himself.He's in good spirits though.Apparently James had to take abusiness call to do business.Where you at, James? Come on.- Right. With the caliperoff, the rotor can come off.The last thing that needs tocome off is this heat shield.The instructions thatcame with our nice partstell me to do so, so...(power drill buzzes)(metal clinks)Am I close?Oh, I was.(power drill buzzes)(metal clangs onto floor)Now, one of the nicethings about nice partsis that they often comewith nice instructions.And I see Nolan dealing withthe lack of instructions.- It's all in Chinese.How am I gonna read this?- Hey Adam, did you runany of these washers?- No, I didn't run any of 'em.- Right.- Huh.(power drill buzzes)Big brake kit feels pretty cool to put on.I mean, I really love the color.I know that's not really aperformance consideration,but it really just pops with this blueand like, does feel likeHi and Low car, you know?- The big old boy's mess. Oh (beep).Got too confident.You know, the first timethat we drove this car,the engine blew up.So you could say that wedidn't really start offthe relationship underthe best circumstances.But you got wheels,you got big old brakes,you got cool seats.It's starting to feel like ours.It's starting to feel like a Hi car.Why are you in the enemy's pit?- I like the tiens on the, sorry, tains?Teens?- Tain?- The tain's green with thenew wrap is pretty sweet, man.- Right, man. Oh (beep).(James and Nolan chuckle)- Oh, doggy. That's a nice caliber.God is that light.Ho, ho, ho, ho.I like that.And now with that, the big stuff is done,and it looks like we've gotbig brakes in this corner,which is pretty fun, prettyexciting, and gets me motivated.I sure hope these fit under our wheels.- What's going on Adam?- We got multiple problems.Dickase asked us if we'rerunning 18 inch wheels.This is an 18 inch wheel,but if you notice the lip,is an 18.- But that--- But the back barrel,they step it down to a 17.So.- So.(beep)- Welcome to the world of building cars.- Your wheels don't fit, huh.- We didn't really account forthe step up in diameter here.So now we gotta get a little creative.- Cut a hole in the wheel.- That's pretty good.- But we have an idea.- We do.- What's your idea?- Follow me, James.(exciting video game music)(uplifting fanfare)These were from Low car.- Those are thewheels from the Low car.- The Low car driftcar's wheels right here.- Oh.- Hey.- So having cheap wheels withmultiple holes saved you.- Wow, and I do say...- Those look better, dude.- They look pretty good on this.(Adam laughs)- They're sick.That's what you call a happy accident.- That is a solution.- Nice.But we're gonna put these tires on.- On, yeah.- Just so that,when we go back to thetrack, it's the same.- Yes, perfect.- Done. Done. I wasn't even worried.- No?- That was terrifying.(Adam laughs)- Anytime you expose your brakes to air,you're gonna want to bleed your brakes.We have to do it, becausewe replaced both our linesand our calipers.Air in your brake linesmeans squishy brakes,and we don't like squishy brakes.- All right, go ahead and pump it.- Pumping.- All right, now hold it.- Holding. I got nothing.- All right, go ahead and pump it.Is it getting firm at all? No?- You want me to keep pumping?- Yeah, just keep pumping.- This is dumb.- That's loose. Go ahead.All right, hold on. Stop.- Stopping.- Okay, pump.- Pumphrey pumping.- All right, hold.- Hold.Bleeding these brakes is the worst thingthat's ever happened to me.Cars are a pain.- All right, so we'regoing with the bleederthat's furthest awayfrom the brake reservoir,and that is the outside.Then we'll go inside, thenwe'll go to the driver's side,do the outside there, and theinside, and we'll be done.Okay, go ahead and pump.- Pumping.Holding.- Opening. Oh wow.Bunch of crap first try.Okay, closed.- Oh, oh, oh, that's getting nicer.- Oh yeah, a lot of crap.- Brakes all bled?- Brakes all bled. Sick.Big old brakes under my ADVAN wheels.This bad boy is reallystarting to come together.- It looks so sick.- Are you jealous?- No, 'cause I got a big brake kit too.I got Dickase, man.Okay, we're gonna put on these wheels.We might need spacers. We might not.I don't think we will.These are pretty, pretty good offset here.(power drill buzzes)Cool.I am a little worried about the clearancebut hopefully our cambersaves us when we put it down.(James laughs)We need to pull these a little bit,which we thought might happen.It's about two inches.(comical screaming sound effect)It's a lot. It's a lot.I think the wheels, they look sick.Yeah, they look better than theones we had on there before.- Yeah dude, this thing's cool.I would do a double take.I would also do a doubletake with Low Z, but fordifferent reasons.- Different reasons, yeah.- In our experience,this is the point wherethese cars are gonna be their best.Once we add aero and more power, baby.(Nolan giggles)And then that'swhen like they start to brake.So I'm really looking forwardto going to the track.- Me too.- And experiencingthis car the best it's ever gonna get.- Yes.- So this is the part of the videowhere we'd usually go test our new brakes,and well, we did go test them.It's kind of an interesting story.After we finished installingour big brake kits,the whole crew headed to Willow Springsto put our $4,700 big brakeshead to head with $850 big brakes.We set up the rules. We didour stupid little intro.Okay, if you've been following alongwith these episodes...We had planned to do two tests,a brake fade test, and a lap time test.Since we thought we mighttoast our brake padsdoing the brake fade test, we decidedto do our lap times first.(swing music)And there goes Nolan on his flying lap.(Nolan laughs)- 1:30.57, hell yeah.(crew laughs)- There goes Zach Jobe in Hi car.- That is a1:30.25, there in the end.- That is the best time so farout of either of these cars.- That looked fast too.- 1:29.24.- Whoa.- Whoa, we're in the 20s.- Dude, that was sick.- Started as one of those track daysthat reminded us all why we loved cars.(engine revving)- 1:30.38.- 1:28.9.- 1:28:92, a new HiLow record.Car's fast man. Nolan's fast.- On average, everybody was lappingabout two seconds faster inHi car compared to Low car.- You guys builtan insane car, man.- Even with the one secondhandicap to account forour better tires andsuspension, it seemed likeHi car was gonna take thecake when it came to brakes.Then Adam, our shop daddy, unsurprisinglyput down a screamer of a lap in Low car.- 1:27.72.- Best lap time yet.That was a three secondimprovement of the last timewe were at the track, anine second improvementover the cars when they were stocked,and a full second fasterthan Hi car's best lap timeup to that point.So now Hi team's $4,700 brakes were losingto Low team's $850 brakes,but I was not worried.Adam is our fastest driverand I, and everyone,was confident that as soon ashe got in the driver's seat,he'd be able to put down aneven faster lap in Hi car.And then this happened.- Stop, stop, stop.(hi car hitting the ground as its third ej25 grinds itself to pieces)- He went off.- He went off? Oh (beep).- James is off to the left over here.I'm gonna check on him.- We'll justpile in if that's okay.- We gotta get there quick.Let's go, let's go, let's go.- You can check on the boys.Pull 'em outta the dirt, you know?- You all right?- Yeah. Car's (beep).- Oh really?Oh (beep)- You all right bud?- Yeah. I'm beginning to think thatI'm unqualified to do this.I broke the car, real bad.Dude, wait until you see.(Zach laughs)Oh yeah.- No, that's an axle.- That's an axle.- That was an axle.- Yeah. I keep wrecking cars.Luckily I went todonutmedia.com and picked myselfup some Donut Media zip ties.We should have this thingback on track in no time.- So we went back to theshop to assess the damages,and it really sucks to say, but Hi carthat cursed WRX is totally irreparable.At least in the amountof time that we have leftto film this series.The body's bent and theengine is somehow caputfor the third time.Now, we know how much youguys have enjoyed this seriesin the past and we've enjoyed making it.But as much as it kills me to say,this might be the endof the road for HiLow.So I guess I just won't say that,because we don't give up that easy.Here at Donut, we boughta third almost identicalSubaru WRX and it mightnot be the cleanest one,but it's ours now. We got a new Hi car.We swapped all the parts over.Adam worked through the weekendand we're back on schedule.So say hello to the new Hi car.(audience cheering)It's got the same $3,000coilovers, $1,600 tires,$3,000 seats, and $4,700 brakesin the same green bumper.Now unfortunately, James,the guy who wreckedold Hi car isn't here, neither is Nolan.They're off shooting--- A super secret video.- And Jeremiah's at Coda at F1.So today it's me and Adam.We're gonna put down a brake fade test,then we're gonna putAdam back in the cockpitof the new Hi car and seeif he can smash that 1:27.65that he ran in Low car.What the heck is up, Adam?- What' up?- Never give up, never stopwrenching, never surrender.Even if it means you gottamax out a couple credit cards,and get your third Subaru, fifth engine.You know, normal car stuff.I'm traumatized by Subarus, dude.- The EJ20 life.(engine rumbles)- Hey, what the heck?- Hello.- What are you doing here?Cherie told me you were in Texas.- No, I don't leave 'til tonight.- Well, welcome, I guess.- I just wanted to show up, you know.- Dude, I love to see your shining face.- I love to see your face. How's it going?- It's great to see you bud.- Yeah. Have you guys started yet?- Kind of, getting there.- Can I help?- Yeah, sure. We can findsomething for you to do.All right, let's go.First up, brake fade test.We're gonna run both cars upand down this straightaway,braking from 60 to 0 to induce brake fade.We know that both cars with no break fadegoing 60 miles an hour canstart breaking on this lineand come to a complete stop90 feet later at this cone.But as the heat starts creeping inand the brakes start fading, that distanceis gonna get longer and longer.So we're gonna put Jimmy here,30 feet past our current stopping pointon this X made out of twohigh-vis Donut Media shirtsavailable at donutmedia.com.And whichever car'sbrakes fade first so badlythat they run over poorJimmy, well that car loses.You ready?(Jimmy groans)Just another day at the office, Jimmy.Well, if you're nervous,why don't you take a minuteand remind our viewersabout today's sponsor,eBay Motors?- I love that place.I get all my seals from my Miata there.(Zach hums)eBay Motors has been ourgo to online marketplacefor parts since we started HiLow.We trust 'em with the Zs,the tacos, and now the WRXs.(tires screeching)Their inventory is massive,with almost 122 million partsfor every type of vehicle.(tires screeching)And with eBay's my garage feature,those millions of partscan get filtered downto only the exact ones youneed for fixing, updating,or just maintaining your vehicle.(engine rattling)(tires screeching)(Adam groans)What we love most about eBayis their money back guarantee.Get the part you orderedor your money back.It's that simple.(tires screeching)Whether your budget's high or low,get the right parts for the right priceat ebaymotors.com, orjust click the link below.(tires screeching)- No, no, no.Blew him right out of his old sneakies.Looks like the Dickasescan't keep up, huh?- Dickases faded out, my friend.And you know what's the weirdest part?It wasn't consistent.Like sometimes it would brake really well,and then the next one wouldjust almost kill Jimmy.- You pretty much hit the same spot.Once your brakes warmed up, you were rightin that sweet spot.- Yeah, yeah.Couldn't be happier with those brakes.Car on the other hand,might need our fifth engine.It's got a problem.- There's something not okay with it.- You're not gonna be ableto go faster, I think.(intense music)All right, now it's time forthe test that really matters.Lap times.Now Adam, last time we were here,already ran a 1:27.65 in Low car,and we're still gonna count that time,but today is a different day,with different trackconditions and a different car.So we're all gonna take a lapand make sure we're givingeverything a good, fair chance.See what happens.All right, so Jerry's the first one up.He's in Low car right now.- Oh, I got him at1:29.12- 1:29.17.- 1:29.34.(engine rattling)- Almost, dang it.- 1:28.93.- 1:27.65 is still the time to beat.And Jerry's out in Hi car,so let's see what the boy can do.1:32.87, which unfortunately makes sense.- It does.- The car seems likeit's a little bit hurt.- And a 1:32.44.- The car is definitely down on power.It's definitely slowerthan Low car currently,which hurts my heart.- You did pretty good.- Yeah, I beat you.- Congratulations.- Thanks.- Not fun though.- No.- Not nearly as fun.- But hey, we're sendingAdam out in it anyway.He'll probably beat our bad times.- Maybe we're just driving it wrong.- Yeah.Maybe the thing's sortingitself out, straightening up.(intense music)- Yeah.- Oh, he's flying.Holy crap.(Jeremiah chuckles)- Holy crap.- Wait 'til hecomes around. There he is.Oh, oh, oh, oh.- Oh (beep)Was that the exhaust?- It was.(Zach laughs)- Finish her, Adam.- Just finishher Adam, please god.- Put her out of her misery.- 1:32.38. That thing stinks.- Yeah, she isdefinitely down on power.- All right, so Adam was not ableto beat his best time of 1:27.65.I think we might have something going on.- Something inthere is not having fun.- But when it comes to brakes,I think we've got a clearwinner. Hi car wins.- So good.- The brakesdidn't kill Jimmy, theydidn't fade as earlyas the Dickases, and theyfeel way better on track,pedal feels much nicer.But in the overall, thegrand scheme of HiLow,Hi car is hurting.So I think we gotta get back to the shop.Thank you guys for watching this episode.If you liked it, subscribe to the channel,like the video and comment on itand we'll see you guys for the next one.