Ryzen 7 7700X — Zen 4 Launch Review — Gaming & Productivity Testing — AMD AM5 Overview

**Is Zen 4 Worth Buying? A Look at AMD's Latest CPU**

Intel is about to launch Raptor Lake, and in all honesty, it's likely to be faster than and four. However, for many people, the question of whether Zen 4 is worth buying may seem less relevant as Intel is moving to yet another new socket with their 14th gen CPUs. Nevertheless, AMD has managed to create a compelling case for why Zen 4 is still an excellent choice for those looking to upgrade or purchase a new CPU.

One huge benefit of Zen 4 is the option to upgrade the new CPU in three or four years without replacing your motherboard, RAM, or having to reinstall Windows. For many people, this is a significant advantage and one that I completely understand. In fact, I've used this feature myself on several occasions with my own PC built in 2018. I've upgraded multiple times over the years, and Zen 4's ability to support upgrades for an extended period has been a game-changer.

The ideal buyer for the 7700x is someone who has a four or six core CPU and is looking for modern performance with room to grow. This could be anyone from a new builder who wants to take advantage of the latest technology, to someone upgrading from an older CPU that's no longer supported by AMD. In fact, any system with an FX or older-generation Ryzen CPU would benefit significantly from Zen 4. Additionally, anyone looking for a new motherboard with advanced features, more RAM, a larger power supply, and larger storage can take advantage of the improved performance and capabilities offered by Zen 4.

Another example of when it might make sense to upgrade to Zen 4 is if you're building a new PC altogether. At that point, taking advantage of the latest technology can be beneficial in terms of future-proofing your system. Even older CPUs like the i5 8600 or i7 8700k would benefit significantly from the increased performance and capabilities offered by Zen 4.

However, it's worth noting that upgrading to Zen 4 might not be necessary for those who already own an eight-core CPU. In fact, they should really consider upgrading to Ryzen 9, as it will last longer and provides a premium upgrade option for those who built high-end PCs in the past. Regardless of which CPU you choose, one thing is certain: AMD's competition with Intel means that we get new and improved CPUs more often than ever before.

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"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello and welcome to Tech deals ryzen 7000 series is here the fourth generation of Zen CPUs from AMD that brings with it not just faster performance but many new technologies across your PC today we're going to review the ryzen 7 700x the mid-range 400 R CPU from the New Zen 4 lineup this CPU features 8 cores and 16 threads a 5.5 gigahertz out of the box all core boost and incredible performance gaming and non-gaming benchmarks are included as well as an overview of the new am5 platform today's video was brought to you by ewin racing the best source for gaming chairs and deaths for those long gaming sessions we have a playlist of our ewin chair and desk videos Linked In the video description below save 30 off of everything using the discount code Tech deals more details at the end of the video in 2017 AMD launched ryzen and change the PC landscape completely in 2016 I made a video comparing the I5 6600k the i760 700k and the i760 800k and I noted that AMD wasn't even part of the conversation since then ryzen launched and AMD has not just been part of the conversation it has been leading it with the first seven nanometer desktop CPU the first to PCI Express Gen 4 the first to eight cores on the consumer desktop the first to 16 cores on the consumer desktop and so much more code code name zen 4 the ryzen 7000 series is the first x86 five nanometer CPU featuring clock speeds of over 5.5 gigahertz and power efficiency to make Intel wish they weren't on 10 nanometer four CPUs are launching today the ryzen 5 7600x the ryzen 7 700x the ryzen 9 7900x and the ryzen 9 7950x the ryzen 7 700x is an 8 core 16 thread CPU priced at 400 it represents the mainstream choice and is probably what most people will end up buying it's 25 percent more money than the 7600x and it has 25 percent more cores it clocks a little bit higher and it is well worth the cost if you can afford it this is the CPU we are focusing on today we have an all new platform today called am5 this is a new socket for a new series of motherboards for zenfor and Beyond a quick overview of am5 is that it moves exclusively to ddr5 Ram it includes support for PCI Express 5 it adds four more CPU Lanes bringing the total to 28 versus 24 on am4 improved USB support including 20 gigabit per second type c ports and much much more a more complete review of am5 will come once the b650 motherboards launch in October and we have more time to spend with multiple boards then we'll be able to provide a proper platform review at that time today we'll be testing four CPUs from Intel and AMD first we have the i7 10700k with 8 cores and 16 threads launched in 2020 it is part of the Comet Lake series of CPUs this is also the last of the Skylake core based CPUs that date back to 2015. you could swap this out with an I9 9900k here if you like it's the same performance you could also substitute an i7 11700k here and it wouldn't change the results much second we have the ryzen 7 5800x also with 8 cores and 16 threads launched in 2020 for 450 dollars this features Zen 3 cores which were a solid improvement over Zen 2. thankfully the price has dropped quite a bit now a very reasonable 250 dollars a worthy consideration for a new build today third we have the Intel i7 12700k with 12 cores and 20 threads launched in 2021 for 400 this features all new cores with a higher instructions per clock cycle the first time since 2015 Skylake that we've really seen a per core per clock improvement from Intel worth talking about this is a hybrid CPU eight of the cores are performance for our efficiency with hyper threading only on the p-course that's how we end up at 12 cores but only 20 threads finally we have the focus of today's video the ryzen 7 700x with 8 cores and 16 threads it is four fewer than the 12700k on both cores and threads essentially it's just missing the four ecors only testing will tell us if that matters or not this is also the fastest CPU in terms of clock speed running 800 megahertz faster than the pair of Intel CPUs we have four different test machines being used to Benchmark each CPU as they are all on different sockets rather than read out a ton of numbers for the next five minutes or just putting them all on screen here feel free to pause the video to read them if you'd like the short version is that we have balanced each test machine to be as fair and reasonable to each CPU as possible first we'll start off with some non-gaming tests to look at the single threaded and multi-threaded performance of each CPU cpu-z is a very useful program that includes a built-in Benchmark if you don't have it it's a free download and takes only a minute to run here you can see the results on all four CPUs no surprise that the i7 10700k is the slowest of the bunch in both single threaded and multi-threaded performance it is based on a 2015 Core Design After all if anything it's surprising it holds up this well the ryzen 7 5800x really shows how well AMD did with Zen 3. they took the lead from Intel and they held it for a year into Alder Lake launched the 7700x is 16 faster in single thread performance and it's 25 faster in multi-thread performance versus the 5800x a solid generation over generation gain that is nice to see having said that the year old 12700k is eight percent faster than the New Zen 4 CPU which is a little disappointing to see in multi-threaded performance there really is no surprise here 12 cores beats 8 cores all else being equal and in this case they are equal enough I am aware that some people think that e-cores aren't real cores but they are real enough to provide 17 percent higher multi-thread performance over the 7700x finally as an interesting point of comparison the new 7700x is 36 percent faster in single thread and 45 percent faster in multi-thread than the i7 10700k a very nice boost to anyone thinking of moving over from Intel next up we have cinebench R23 which is a 20 minute version of cpu-z more or less the story is similar with one big difference the i7 12700k no longer wins here the 7700x is a hair faster buy a whole three percent which is honestly within the margin of testing error for those of you curious you can run these benchmarks a dozen times and you'll get slightly different scores each time I encourage you all to try this it is rare to repeat the exact same score three times in a row so any result that shows only a two or three percent difference is effectively a tie next we have seven zip a file compression program that has a lovely built-in Benchmark note that if you wish to try this yourself make sure you're on the same version we're using 22 because the Benchmark does change between versions the results here speak for themselves the 7700x beats the 12 core i7 12700k by eight percent probably because 7-Zip is not effectively using the e-cores and because Zen 4's new cache design is that good 7-Zip is very cash in memory dependent we often see ten percent or more differences in testing just by switching from single rank to dual rank Ram even at the same speeds the 7700x is 26 percent faster than the 5800x Zen 3. this shows the higher performance Zen 4 has holds up in the real world next next we have blender a great tool for testing 3D rendering performance on both CPUs and gpus again no surprises here the i7 7700k is the slowest CPU of the bunch showing the age of its cores despite the 4.7 gigahertz all-core clock speed it offers this time the 12700k beats the 7700x by 7 not nearly as much as you might expect given the four core Advantage e-cores are in fact real cores but they are not P cores and they cannot be expected to provide the same performance as full cores ideally they are used for background tasks multitasking and not for raw multi-threaded workloads while seven percent is nothing to sneeze at the 7700x is 35 faster than the 5800x here that is a gain that is noticeable outside of benchmarks finally we have v-ray a 3D rendering plug-in used by the biggest media companies in the World seen Star Wars Rogue one Captain America Civil War v-ray was used to render the 3D effects in those movies here you can see the 7700x and the 12700k are effectively tied again the e-cores are great for multitasking but they're not as good at multi-threading at least not in real workloads the 7700x is a solid 39 faster than the 5800x an amazing generation over generation performance gain AMD should be really proud of that one the 7700x is a whopping 69 percent faster than the 10700k leaving it in the dust these tests bring up a few points that I want to talk about before we get to the game benchmarks multitasking and multi-threading are not the same thing despite the two terms being sometimes interchanged in casual discussions of CPUs multi-threading is when one program will use all the cores and threads you have to run as fast as possible some programs such as v-ray will scale to thousands of cores across hundreds of machines in professional environments multitasking is when you are running multiple completely different programs that are competing for system resources a good example would be multiple monitors with a game running on one and a web browser open on another watching a YouTube video or twitch live stream another would be live streaming your gameplay to YouTube or twitch the i7 12700k is a great multitasking CPU but it's multi-threading doesn't appear to hold up outside of synthetic tests streaming your games to Twitch would be a good use of such a CPU as the e-course could handle OBS Chrome and the other background processes and leave the 8p cores to handle your game or you could just buy a ryzen 9 7900x and you don't have to care about any of that however that option does cost a little bit more before we get into the game tests an important point to consider we are testing at 1080p High detail with an RTX 3090 TI this is not a normal or typical configuration it's designed to showcase the CPUs and their True Performance differences however what you're about to see is generally going to be the best case scenario change to 1440p or 4K increase the detail settings to ultra or drop the graphics card down to a 3070 or an RX 6700 XT and some of these differences will melt away we will do a follow-up video showing you just that in the future our first game is Assassin's Creed Valhalla a very demanding title that shows a surprising result even at 1080p High detail we are mostly graphics card bottleneck tier the average frame rates are within a frame or two of each other it's the one percent lows that show a more interesting result the i7 10700k has a one percent low of 87 13 slower than the 7700x a difference worth noting but nothing earth-shattering either the newer 12700k is within the margin of error so it's a tie there next up is Battlefield 2042 this is new to our Benchmark Suite several of you have requested this be added so here it is all four CPUs can easily run this game however that's not what we're really testing here no one should be asking can a modern 8 core CPU run Battlefield 2042 at 1080p High detail on an RTX 3090 TI because of course they can what we're looking for are two things differences in performance and total CPU usage at higher frame rates another surprising result is that GPU usage between the newer and older CPUs the 10700k and the 5800x are unable to keep the 3090 TI fed with enough data to hold it to 99 usage however the 12700k and the 7700x generally are average frame rates are pretty close however it's the one percent and 0.1 percent lows that are not and the lack of CPU power to keep the 309 DTI busy is part of that another point to consider is the 12700k has 20 threads so each thread being used is five percent of the total while the other three CPUs have 16 threads so each thread they're being used is 6.25 percent of the total to put it another way 50 CPU usage on the 7700x is equal in thread count to 40 usage on the 12 700k keep that in mind as you look at the CPU usage here another point to consider is that the eight core CPUs are into hyper threading anytime they exceed 50 CPU usage while the 12 700k doesn't saturate all 12 cores until it reaches 60 usage looking at the chart you can see the averages are all really close from Battle to battle these can vary by 10 percent so while the 7700x is clearly the winner here it's not by so much as to make a huge difference the real difference is in the one percent low results 106 on the 7700x is 25 faster than the 5800x if you're a competitive Battlefield player Zen 4 should be a contender for an upgrade we saw these differences across multiple battles the actual numbers varied but the end result was the same the 12 700k and the 7700x were both smoother experience than the older CPUs Call of Duty is perhaps the most popular online first person shooter game franchise of all time and a terribly difficult one to test in live gameplay we could use replay files however that really just tests the graphics card as there is no server interaction no player interaction and it's just effectively watching a movie at that point we may well do this for the upcoming graphics card comparisons 40 series and 7000 series from AMD but for CPU testing we prefer live gameplay on live servers against real people the downside is that no two matches are ever the same and you can't directly compare the results only draw General conclusions in this case the weak point is the 5800x which is noticeably slower than the other three CPUs even the 10700k we played multiple matches across several days to verify this performance and we were never able to match the 10700 case performance whatever Magic AMD performed in Zen 4 it appears to have addressed this because the 7700x holds its own with the Intel CPUs without complaint all four CPUs were bottlenecking the 3090 TI however the 12700k came the closest to letting it run at 100 percent at least at times if you're a competitive gamer that demands the very best Call of Duty performance you might want to wait for the upcoming raptor-like 13th gen CPUs from Intel or the Zen 4 3D chips due early next year from AMD both are likely to be more expensive than what is on offer today but they will be faster cyberpunk 2077 the game with a troubled launch in 2020 has seen a recent Resurgence with patch 1.6 coming out in early September that is the version all these tests were run on this game is a good example of an unfortunate situation in PC gaming some games favor Intel some favor AMD this one clearly favors Intel we ran these tests multiple times so we are sure of these numbers the i7 10700k is faster than the 5800x in cyberpunk which normally you wouldn't expect because the 5800x really is the faster CPU in general it is faster in the averages however it's the one percent lows that really make the difference 106 versus 82 is a 29 performance difference this same result carries over on the new CPUs the 12700k is 44 faster than the 7 700x in the one percent low results it's worth noting that the CPU usage on the 12700k is much higher it's using all 12 of those cores at times while the 7700x is struggling to use eight cores this may be simply a game optimization issue however it probably isn't a Zen 4 issue as the 5800x shows the same problem and it's been out for two years F1 2022 is new to our Benchmark Suite with the 2020 version finally being retired still very easy to run it's a good test for high frame rates and making sure the one percent lows are solid well over 200 frames per second on all four CPUs even the older 10700k has no problem averaging 236 frames per second easily making this super playable of course that's not why this is here it's a test of the difference between these CPUs when we look at the chart you can see the real winner here the 7700x is 10 percent faster than the 12 700k and 17 percent faster than the 5800x the one percent lows compress these numbers only the 10 700k falls behind a bit don't fuss too much over the 0.1 percent lows it's really really hard to get consistent 0.1 percent lows in this particular game those are all fine numbers in our view Far Cry 6 is also new to our Benchmark Suite finally having retired Far Cry New Dawn this game does not want or need a dozen or more cores what it really wants are fast cores and the results here definitely show that look at the graphics card usage the 10700k and the 5800x both show noticeably lower usage versus the 12 700k and the 7700x all four CPUs are bottlenecking the 3090 TI however that is the point of such testing we are showing you how much faster the newer CPUs really are when given a fashion of graphic X Card Set this game to 1440p ultra detail and you'll see these numbers compress as the GPU usage Rises and the CPU usage lowers 157 frames per second average on both of the new CPUs shows just how much this game wants a few really really fast cores one percent lows also reflect this the difference is noticeable enough to matter in live gameplay the 7700x is 25 percent faster than the 5800x and the 12700k is 40 percent faster than the 10700k Guardians of the Galaxy is another new game to our testing Suite long time viewers will have noticed by now we really went all out to update our games the older games were getting long in the tooth how many people in 2022 really need to see shadow of the Tomb Raider tested again Guardians is another game that is CPU bottlenecks on all four CPUs it is also happy to use a course however it it doesn't seem to care for the e-cores on the Intel CPU as it's only using about 35 percent there versus 45 on the eight core chips the results again speak for themselves the new CPUs make a real difference when given enough graphics card to work with 197 frames per second average on the 7700x is 30 percent faster than the 5800x while 205 average on the 12 700k is 31 percent faster than the 10700k the 12 700k and the 7700x are somewhat interchangeable here other than of course the fact that the Intel chip has those four extra e-cors for anything else you might want your PC to do while you're gaming Hitman 3 is yet another new addition to our testing suite and this one is a Whopper of a demanding game it will use everything you've got to provide fast frame rates and smooth gameplay it's that smooth gameplay that we'll get to in just a minute for now focus on the CPU usage the 10700k and the 5800x are both really struggling here their frame time graphs are going crazy and CPU usage is above 70 percent which indicates both are severely overloaded even the 7700x and 12700k hit 60 usage at times this game will absolutely use every bit of a ryzen 9 or I9 CPU if you have one as games continue to go in this direction expect more of this in the years ahead looking at the chart we see the clear and obvious stand out like a sore thumb the 7700x is fast but its lack of cores really stands out here look at the one percent and point one percent lows the 12 700k dominates here being 43 percent faster than the 7700x this is why averages can be so deceptive because the 12700k is only 11 percent faster than the 7700x however in actual gameplay with a powerful enough graphics card it'll be a much nicer experience next we have Spider-Man remastered another new game to our test Suite I feel like I'm saying that for every other game today what can I say we really wanted to use some new games to test out these new CPUs properly let's look at the 5800x versus the 7700x first both are fast and very playable however ignore the actual numbers for a second the 7700x felt smoother and that's not a metric that fits into a benchmark it's a difference that only shows up when your hands are on the mouse and keyboard and this one was dramatic enough to be worth noting the same thing also happened between the 10700k and the 12700k both are well over 100 frames per second average both are over 60 frames per second in the one percent low but that does not reflect the feeling of playing on both CPUs the new CPUs have a reduced input lag and a buttery smoothness not reflected in the numbers this game also uses every core you have however it doesn't use hyper threading very much so we solve 50 usage in General on the eight core CPUs and 60 usage on the 12700k which reflects that core usage but not thread usage we do look forward to testing these on the ryzen 9 and I-9 CPUs looking at the chart you can clearly see how much faster the new CPUs really are even in the averages the 7700x is 28 faster than the 5800x while the 12700k is 43 faster than the 10700k this game will use all the CPU and all the GPU that you can throw at it Tiny Tina's wonderlands say that three times fast is yet another new game replacing Borderlands 3 as the follow-up game that should be more demanding and it is because we're mostly GPU bottleneck tier this game will probably matter more for our upcoming graphics card comparisons however the one percent lows here still tell a story 187 one percent low on the 7700x is 18 faster than 158 one percent low on the 5800x of course both are completely and totally playable even on a 144 Hertz monitor but it's the principle of the matter if the question is is the 7700x really 20 to 30 percent faster than the 5800x the answer is a resounding yes before we go to the 10 game average chart I want to talk about Real World experience for just a minute when you use as many CPUs as I do not just in benchmarking but in everyday use in both our office and our home you gain a sense of what each one can do and what to expect if I were to install Windows 10 on a ryzen 7 2700x tomorrow including drivers windows updates and everything else required to get a working functional system I have a good mental idea of how that experience is going to go when I installed Windows 11 on the 7700x I experienced a few wow moments that actually caused me to say whoa out loud more than once I found myself saying okay that's the fastest that's ever been before none of that shows up in a benchmark chart but it does show up in real life use for day-to-day use opening Chrome installing drivers running game updates to 7700x is one of if not the fastest CPUs I have ever used in my 37 year history of personal computers here is the 10 game average chart showing all four CPUs across all 10 games tested we effectively have a repeat of 2020 with a tie between the 10 700k and the 5800x and a tie between the 12 700k and the 7700x taking into account the one percent and 0.1 percent lows the 12700k is four percent faster than the 7700x however this is within the margin of testing error so I'm not declaring either CPU a winner rather they are both very very fast CPUs and either would make an awesome gaming experience the 7700x is 19 faster than the 5800x falling in the middle of their 13 IPC claim and 29 single core performance claim so we can say their marketing claims pre-launch were fair and honest regarding performance overall the ryzen 7 700x is an impressive CPU providing premium top of the line gaming experiences on an all-new platform that should have several years of upgrades in front of it is it worth buying that's a harder question to answer because Intel is about to launch Raptor Lake in a few weeks that in all honesty is likely to be faster than and four however In fairness Raptor lake is the end of the line for LGA 1700 the socket they install into it will be the last generation before Intel moves to yet another all-new socket for 14th gen meteor like next year one huge benefit of Zen 4 is the option to upgrade the new CPU in three or four years without replacing your motherboard Ram or having to reinstall Windows for a lot of people that is a huge benefit and one that I completely understand if you haven't seen it check out my recent yam4 is Awesome video I use a real PC that I built in 2018 and have upgraded many times as an example of what am4 brought to the table I'll link it in the video description the ideal buyer for the 7700x is someone who has a four or six core CPU and is looking for Modern Performance with Room to Grow of course anything old like an fx or a 4 Core i5 CPU is an easy example however others you might not think about include first generation ryzen systems such as a ryzen 5 1600 installed on a b550 board perhaps you want a new board with new features more RAM a larger power supply larger storage at that point you're building a new pc and it's worth considering the leap to am5 at that point another example would be an i5 8600 or an i5 10 400 or even an i7 8700k all of which would be a wow upgrade to a 7700x I would not however upgrade an I9 9900k or a ryzen 7 3700x to a 7700x existing eight core owners should really consider the step up to ryzen 9. it'll last longer and it's the premium upgrade option for people who built premium PCS back in the day regardless of what you do I want to point out that we are all winners here AMD 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the box all core boost and incredible performance gaming and non-gaming benchmarks are included as well as an overview of the new am5 platform today's video was brought to you by ewin racing the best source for gaming chairs and deaths for those long gaming sessions we have a playlist of our ewin chair and desk videos Linked In the video description below save 30 off of everything using the discount code Tech deals more details at the end of the video in 2017 AMD launched ryzen and change the PC landscape completely in 2016 I made a video comparing the I5 6600k the i760 700k and the i760 800k and I noted that AMD wasn't even part of the conversation since then ryzen launched and AMD has not just been part of the conversation it has been leading it with the first seven nanometer desktop CPU the first to PCI Express Gen 4 the first to eight cores on the consumer desktop the first to 16 cores on the consumer desktop and so much more code code name zen 4 the ryzen 7000 series is the first x86 five nanometer CPU featuring clock speeds of over 5.5 gigahertz and power efficiency to make Intel wish they weren't on 10 nanometer four CPUs are launching today the ryzen 5 7600x the ryzen 7 700x the ryzen 9 7900x and the ryzen 9 7950x the ryzen 7 700x is an 8 core 16 thread CPU priced at 400 it represents the mainstream choice and is probably what most people will end up buying it's 25 percent more money than the 7600x and it has 25 percent more cores it clocks a little bit higher and it is well worth the cost if you can afford it this is the CPU we are focusing on today we have an all new platform today called am5 this is a new socket for a new series of motherboards for zenfor and Beyond a quick overview of am5 is that it moves exclusively to ddr5 Ram it includes support for PCI Express 5 it adds four more CPU Lanes bringing the total to 28 versus 24 on am4 improved USB support including 20 gigabit per second type c ports and much much more a more complete review of am5 will come once the b650 motherboards launch in October and we have more time to spend with multiple boards then we'll be able to provide a proper platform review at that time today we'll be testing four CPUs from Intel and AMD first we have the i7 10700k with 8 cores and 16 threads launched in 2020 it is part of the Comet Lake series of CPUs this is also the last of the Skylake core based CPUs that date back to 2015. you could swap this out with an I9 9900k here if you like it's the same performance you could also substitute an i7 11700k here and it wouldn't change the results much second we have the ryzen 7 5800x also with 8 cores and 16 threads launched in 2020 for 450 dollars this features Zen 3 cores which were a solid improvement over Zen 2. thankfully the price has dropped quite a bit now a very reasonable 250 dollars a worthy consideration for a new build today third we have the Intel i7 12700k with 12 cores and 20 threads launched in 2021 for 400 this features all new cores with a higher instructions per clock cycle the first time since 2015 Skylake that we've really seen a per core per clock improvement from Intel worth talking about this is a hybrid CPU eight of the cores are performance for our efficiency with hyper threading only on the p-course that's how we end up at 12 cores but only 20 threads finally we have the focus of today's video the ryzen 7 700x with 8 cores and 16 threads it is four fewer than the 12700k on both cores and threads essentially it's just missing the four ecors only testing will tell us if that matters or not this is also the fastest CPU in terms of clock speed running 800 megahertz faster than the pair of Intel CPUs we have four different test machines being used to Benchmark each CPU as they are all on different sockets rather than read out a ton of numbers for the next five minutes or just putting them all on screen here feel free to pause the video to read them if you'd like the short version is that we have balanced each test machine to be as fair and reasonable to each CPU as possible first we'll start off with some non-gaming tests to look at the single threaded and multi-threaded performance of each CPU cpu-z is a very useful program that includes a built-in Benchmark if you don't have it it's a free download and takes only a minute to run here you can see the results on all four CPUs no surprise that the i7 10700k is the slowest of the bunch in both single threaded and multi-threaded performance it is based on a 2015 Core Design After all if anything it's surprising it holds up this well the ryzen 7 5800x really shows how well AMD did with Zen 3. they took the lead from Intel and they held it for a year into Alder Lake launched the 7700x is 16 faster in single thread performance and it's 25 faster in multi-thread performance versus the 5800x a solid generation over generation gain that is nice to see having said that the year old 12700k is eight percent faster than the New Zen 4 CPU which is a little disappointing to see in multi-threaded performance there really is no surprise here 12 cores beats 8 cores all else being equal and in this case they are equal enough I am aware that some people think that e-cores aren't real cores but they are real enough to provide 17 percent higher multi-thread performance over the 7700x finally as an interesting point of comparison the new 7700x is 36 percent faster in single thread and 45 percent faster in multi-thread than the i7 10700k a very nice boost to anyone thinking of moving over from Intel next up we have cinebench R23 which is a 20 minute version of cpu-z more or less the story is similar with one big difference the i7 12700k no longer wins here the 7700x is a hair faster buy a whole three percent which is honestly within the margin of testing error for those of you curious you can run these benchmarks a dozen times and you'll get slightly different scores each time I encourage you all to try this it is rare to repeat the exact same score three times in a row so any result that shows only a two or three percent difference is effectively a tie next we have seven zip a file compression program that has a lovely built-in Benchmark note that if you wish to try this yourself make sure you're on the same version we're using 22 because the Benchmark does change between versions the results here speak for themselves the 7700x beats the 12 core i7 12700k by eight percent probably because 7-Zip is not effectively using the e-cores and because Zen 4's new cache design is that good 7-Zip is very cash in memory dependent we often see ten percent or more differences in testing just by switching from single rank to dual rank Ram even at the same speeds the 7700x is 26 percent faster than the 5800x Zen 3. this shows the higher performance Zen 4 has holds up in the real world next next we have blender a great tool for testing 3D rendering performance on both CPUs and gpus again no surprises here the i7 7700k is the slowest CPU of the bunch showing the age of its cores despite the 4.7 gigahertz all-core clock speed it offers this time the 12700k beats the 7700x by 7 not nearly as much as you might expect given the four core Advantage e-cores are in fact real cores but they are not P cores and they cannot be expected to provide the same performance as full cores ideally they are used for background tasks multitasking and not for raw multi-threaded workloads while seven percent is nothing to sneeze at the 7700x is 35 faster than the 5800x here that is a gain that is noticeable outside of benchmarks finally we have v-ray a 3D rendering plug-in used by the biggest media companies in the World seen Star Wars Rogue one Captain America Civil War v-ray was used to render the 3D effects in those movies here you can see the 7700x and the 12700k are effectively tied again the e-cores are great for multitasking but they're not as good at multi-threading at least not in real workloads the 7700x is a solid 39 faster than the 5800x an amazing generation over generation performance gain AMD should be really proud of that one the 7700x is a whopping 69 percent faster than the 10700k leaving it in the dust these tests bring up a few points that I want to talk about before we get to the game benchmarks multitasking and multi-threading are not the same thing despite the two terms being sometimes interchanged in casual discussions of CPUs multi-threading is when one program will use all the cores and threads you have to run as fast as possible some programs such as v-ray will scale to thousands of cores across hundreds of machines in professional environments multitasking is when you are running multiple completely different programs that are competing for system resources a good example would be multiple monitors with a game running on one and a web browser open on another watching a YouTube video or twitch live stream another would be live streaming your gameplay to YouTube or twitch the i7 12700k is a great multitasking CPU but it's multi-threading doesn't appear to hold up outside of synthetic tests streaming your games to Twitch would be a good use of such a CPU as the e-course could handle OBS Chrome and the other background processes and leave the 8p cores to handle your game or you could just buy a ryzen 9 7900x and you don't have to care about any of that however that option does cost a little bit more before we get into the game tests an important point to consider we are testing at 1080p High detail with an RTX 3090 TI this is not a normal or typical configuration it's designed to showcase the CPUs and their True Performance differences however what you're about to see is generally going to be the best case scenario change to 1440p or 4K increase the detail settings to ultra or drop the graphics card down to a 3070 or an RX 6700 XT and some of these differences will melt away we will do a follow-up video showing you just that in the future our first game is Assassin's Creed Valhalla a very demanding title that shows a surprising result even at 1080p High detail we are mostly graphics card bottleneck tier the average frame rates are within a frame or two of each other it's the one percent lows that show a more interesting result the i7 10700k has a one percent low of 87 13 slower than the 7700x a difference worth noting but nothing earth-shattering either the newer 12700k is within the margin of error so it's a tie there next up is Battlefield 2042 this is new to our Benchmark Suite several of you have requested this be added so here it is all four CPUs can easily run this game however that's not what we're really testing here no one should be asking can a modern 8 core CPU run Battlefield 2042 at 1080p High detail on an RTX 3090 TI because of course they can what we're looking for are two things differences in performance and total CPU usage at higher frame rates another surprising result is that GPU usage between the newer and older CPUs the 10700k and the 5800x are unable to keep the 3090 TI fed with enough data to hold it to 99 usage however the 12700k and the 7700x generally are average frame rates are pretty close however it's the one percent and 0.1 percent lows that are not and the lack of CPU power to keep the 309 DTI busy is part of that another point to consider is the 12700k has 20 threads so each thread being used is five percent of the total while the other three CPUs have 16 threads so each thread they're being used is 6.25 percent of the total to put it another way 50 CPU usage on the 7700x is equal in thread count to 40 usage on the 12 700k keep that in mind as you look at the CPU usage here another point to consider is that the eight core CPUs are into hyper threading anytime they exceed 50 CPU usage while the 12 700k doesn't saturate all 12 cores until it reaches 60 usage looking at the chart you can see the averages are all really close from Battle to battle these can vary by 10 percent so while the 7700x is clearly the winner here it's not by so much as to make a huge difference the real difference is in the one percent low results 106 on the 7700x is 25 faster than the 5800x if you're a competitive Battlefield player Zen 4 should be a contender for an upgrade we saw these differences across multiple battles the actual numbers varied but the end result was the same the 12 700k and the 7700x were both smoother experience than the older CPUs Call of Duty is perhaps the most popular online first person shooter game franchise of all time and a terribly difficult one to test in live gameplay we could use replay files however that really just tests the graphics card as there is no server interaction no player interaction and it's just effectively watching a movie at that point we may well do this for the upcoming graphics card comparisons 40 series and 7000 series from AMD but for CPU testing we prefer live gameplay on live servers against real people the downside is that no two matches are ever the same and you can't directly compare the results only draw General conclusions in this case the weak point is the 5800x which is noticeably slower than the other three CPUs even the 10700k we played multiple matches across several days to verify this performance and we were never able to match the 10700 case performance whatever Magic AMD performed in Zen 4 it appears to have addressed this because the 7700x holds its own with the Intel CPUs without complaint all four CPUs were bottlenecking the 3090 TI however the 12700k came the closest to letting it run at 100 percent at least at times if you're a competitive gamer that demands the very best Call of Duty performance you might want to wait for the upcoming raptor-like 13th gen CPUs from Intel or the Zen 4 3D chips due early next year from AMD both are likely to be more expensive than what is on offer today but they will be faster cyberpunk 2077 the game with a troubled launch in 2020 has seen a recent Resurgence with patch 1.6 coming out in early September that is the version all these tests were run on this game is a good example of an unfortunate situation in PC gaming some games favor Intel some favor AMD this one clearly favors Intel we ran these tests multiple times so we are sure of these numbers the i7 10700k is faster than the 5800x in cyberpunk which normally you wouldn't expect because the 5800x really is the faster CPU in general it is faster in the averages however it's the one percent lows that really make the difference 106 versus 82 is a 29 performance difference this same result carries over on the new CPUs the 12700k is 44 faster than the 7 700x in the one percent low results it's worth noting that the CPU usage on the 12700k is much higher it's using all 12 of those cores at times while the 7700x is struggling to use eight cores this may be simply a game optimization issue however it probably isn't a Zen 4 issue as the 5800x shows the same problem and it's been out for two years F1 2022 is new to our Benchmark Suite with the 2020 version finally being retired still very easy to run it's a good test for high frame rates and making sure the one percent lows are solid well over 200 frames per second on all four CPUs even the older 10700k has no problem averaging 236 frames per second easily making this super playable of course that's not why this is here it's a test of the difference between these CPUs when we look at the chart you can see the real winner here the 7700x is 10 percent faster than the 12 700k and 17 percent faster than the 5800x the one percent lows compress these numbers only the 10 700k falls behind a bit don't fuss too much over the 0.1 percent lows it's really really hard to get consistent 0.1 percent lows in this particular game those are all fine numbers in our view Far Cry 6 is also new to our Benchmark Suite finally having retired Far Cry New Dawn this game does not want or need a dozen or more cores what it really wants are fast cores and the results here definitely show that look at the graphics card usage the 10700k and the 5800x both show noticeably lower usage versus the 12 700k and the 7700x all four CPUs are bottlenecking the 3090 TI however that is the point of such testing we are showing you how much faster the newer CPUs really are when given a fashion of graphic X Card Set this game to 1440p ultra detail and you'll see these numbers compress as the GPU usage Rises and the CPU usage lowers 157 frames per second average on both of the new CPUs shows just how much this game wants a few really really fast cores one percent lows also reflect this the difference is noticeable enough to matter in live gameplay the 7700x is 25 percent faster than the 5800x and the 12700k is 40 percent faster than the 10700k Guardians of the Galaxy is another new game to our testing Suite long time viewers will have noticed by now we really went all out to update our games the older games were getting long in the tooth how many people in 2022 really need to see shadow of the Tomb Raider tested again Guardians is another game that is CPU bottlenecks on all four CPUs it is also happy to use a course however it it doesn't seem to care for the e-cores on the Intel CPU as it's only using about 35 percent there versus 45 on the eight core chips the results again speak for themselves the new CPUs make a real difference when given enough graphics card to work with 197 frames per second average on the 7700x is 30 percent faster than the 5800x while 205 average on the 12 700k is 31 percent faster than the 10700k the 12 700k and the 7700x are somewhat interchangeable here other than of course the fact that the Intel chip has those four extra e-cors for anything else you might want your PC to do while you're gaming Hitman 3 is yet another new addition to our testing suite and this one is a Whopper of a demanding game it will use everything you've got to provide fast frame rates and smooth gameplay it's that smooth gameplay that we'll get to in just a minute for now focus on the CPU usage the 10700k and the 5800x are both really struggling here their frame time graphs are going crazy and CPU usage is above 70 percent which indicates both are severely overloaded even the 7700x and 12700k hit 60 usage at times this game will absolutely use every bit of a ryzen 9 or I9 CPU if you have one as games continue to go in this direction expect more of this in the years ahead looking at the chart we see the clear and obvious stand out like a sore thumb the 7700x is fast but its lack of cores really stands out here look at the one percent and point one percent lows the 12 700k dominates here being 43 percent faster than the 7700x this is why averages can be so deceptive because the 12700k is only 11 percent faster than the 7700x however in actual gameplay with a powerful enough graphics card it'll be a much nicer experience next we have Spider-Man remastered another new game to our test Suite I feel like I'm saying that for every other game today what can I say we really wanted to use some new games to test out these new CPUs properly let's look at the 5800x versus the 7700x first both are fast and very playable however ignore the actual numbers for a second the 7700x felt smoother and that's not a metric that fits into a benchmark it's a difference that only shows up when your hands are on the mouse and keyboard and this one was dramatic enough to be worth noting the same thing also happened between the 10700k and the 12700k both are well over 100 frames per second average both are over 60 frames per second in the one percent low but that does not reflect the feeling of playing on both CPUs the new CPUs have a reduced input lag and a buttery smoothness not reflected in the numbers this game also uses every core you have however it doesn't use hyper threading very much so we solve 50 usage in General on the eight core CPUs and 60 usage on the 12700k which reflects that core usage but not thread usage we do look forward to testing these on the ryzen 9 and I-9 CPUs looking at the chart you can clearly see how much faster the new CPUs really are even in the averages the 7700x is 28 faster than the 5800x while the 12700k is 43 faster than the 10700k this game will use all the CPU and all the GPU that you can throw at it Tiny Tina's wonderlands say that three times fast is yet another new game replacing Borderlands 3 as the follow-up game that should be more demanding and it is because we're mostly GPU bottleneck tier this game will probably matter more for our upcoming graphics card comparisons however the one percent lows here still tell a story 187 one percent low on the 7700x is 18 faster than 158 one percent low on the 5800x of course both are completely and totally playable even on a 144 Hertz monitor but it's the principle of the matter if the question is is the 7700x really 20 to 30 percent faster than the 5800x the answer is a resounding yes before we go to the 10 game average chart I want to talk about Real World experience for just a minute when you use as many CPUs as I do not just in benchmarking but in everyday use in both our office and our home you gain a sense of what each one can do and what to expect if I were to install Windows 10 on a ryzen 7 2700x tomorrow including drivers windows updates and everything else required to get a working functional system I have a good mental idea of how that experience is going to go when I installed Windows 11 on the 7700x I experienced a few wow moments that actually caused me to say whoa out loud more than once I found myself saying okay that's the fastest that's ever been before none of that shows up in a benchmark chart but it does show up in real life use for day-to-day use opening Chrome installing drivers running game updates to 7700x is one of if not the fastest CPUs I have ever used in my 37 year history of personal computers here is the 10 game average chart showing all four CPUs across all 10 games tested we effectively have a repeat of 2020 with a tie between the 10 700k and the 5800x and a tie between the 12 700k and the 7700x taking into account the one percent and 0.1 percent lows the 12700k is four percent faster than the 7700x however this is within the margin of testing error so I'm not declaring either CPU a winner rather they are both very very fast CPUs and either would make an awesome gaming experience the 7700x is 19 faster than the 5800x falling in the middle of their 13 IPC claim and 29 single core performance claim so we can say their marketing claims pre-launch were fair and honest regarding performance overall the ryzen 7 700x is an impressive CPU providing premium top of the line gaming experiences on an all-new platform that should have several years of upgrades in front of it is it worth buying that's a harder question to answer because Intel is about to launch Raptor Lake in a few weeks that in all honesty is likely to be faster than and four however In fairness Raptor lake is the end of the line for LGA 1700 the socket they install into it will be the last generation before Intel moves to yet another all-new socket for 14th gen meteor like next year one huge benefit of Zen 4 is the option to upgrade the new CPU in three or four years without replacing your motherboard Ram or having to reinstall Windows for a lot of people that is a huge benefit and one that I completely understand if you haven't seen it check out my recent yam4 is Awesome video I use a real PC that I built in 2018 and have upgraded many times as an example of what am4 brought to the table I'll link it in the video description the ideal buyer for the 7700x is someone who has a four or six core CPU and is looking for Modern Performance with Room to Grow of course anything old like an fx or a 4 Core i5 CPU is an easy example however others you might not think about include first generation ryzen systems such as a ryzen 5 1600 installed on a b550 board perhaps you want a new board with 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