**Apple's New iPad OS Features: What to Expect**

When it comes to navigation and menu options on Apple devices, one of the most common complaints is about the distance between the keyboard and the top of the screen. On iPads, this can be a significant issue, requiring users to contort their wrists just to access the menu bar. Fortunately, Apple has addressed this concern with its latest operating system update for iPad OS.

In contrast to iOS, which can be accessed by clicking on the AA button in the address bar, iPad OS features a more intuitive approach. Users can click on the AA button to reveal a dropdown menu that provides access to various options, including content blockers and privacy settings. This new feature is part of Apple's ongoing efforts to unify its operating systems across devices.

One of the most exciting new features in iPad OS is Safari Intelligence or Browsing Intelligence. This feature aims to provide users with website summaries, breaking down paragraphs and identifying key points of interest. It also includes quick links to relevant sections on a webpage. While details about how it works are still scarce, it's clear that this feature has the potential to revolutionize the way we interact with websites.

Another exciting development is the introduction of Visual Search. This feature leverages AI technology to identify objects in images and provide users with more information about them. In photos, this feature already exists, allowing users to tap on an image and have it identified as a cat or flower. However, this feature is set to expand beyond photos, including Safari, where users will be able to search for images on web pages.

In addition to these new features, Apple has also introduced Visual Search in its Safari browser. This allows users to quickly identify objects within an image and provides them with more information about it. While details about the exact implementation are still limited, it's clear that this feature has the potential to enhance the user experience on Apple devices.

**Apple's Vision for Browsing**

While the exact details of Apple's new features are still emerging, it's clear that the company is committed to improving the browsing experience on its devices. With Safari Intelligence and Visual Search, users will be able to access more information about websites and objects within those sites. This could lead to a more streamlined and efficient way of navigating the internet.

In terms of accessibility, these new features are particularly welcome. For users who struggle with reading comprehension or need assistance with identifying specific points on a webpage, Safari Intelligence could prove to be a valuable tool. Similarly, Visual Search has the potential to enhance the user experience for those who rely on images to identify objects or concepts.

**Conclusion**

Apple's latest update to iPad OS marks an exciting new chapter in the company's efforts to improve its operating systems. With features like Safari Intelligence and Visual Search, users will be able to access more information about websites and objects within those sites. While details are still emerging, it's clear that Apple is committed to enhancing the user experience on its devices.

For those interested in staying up-to-date with the latest developments in iPad OS, we recommend following our other podcast, HomeKit Insider. As an Apple Insider plus subscriber, you can expect exclusive content and insights into the world of Apple technology. Thank you for listening, and we'll see you next time.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enhello welcome to the Apple Insider podcast I'm William Gallagher our sponsors this week are back Blaze and fastgo trees more about them later and joining me back from his holidays and if actually if you're an apple Insider plus subscriber bringing us a little present where hyad where actually never mind about hello and how are you what's this about a present yeah today I'm going to be uh discussing the iPad in apple Insider plus uh it we've had a little anniversary recently of its launch uh in from 2010 to today so I'm going to be sharing a little bit of history with clips from the event from various things happening around the iPad and its launch so I think it'll be very fun very entertaining and I hope you guys enjoy it and uh stick around after the show to hear that if you are an apple Insider plus subscriber I'm so looking forward to that I was think of you as the iPad man and if if you aren't already and inside of plus sub subcriber and you'd like to be then you can do it through patreon or apple podcast subscriptions we'd love to do either way and actually if you just check the show notes you get all the details for that and actually while you're checking the notes that's where you will also find every detail and Analysis of Apple's latest earnings report the short version though is that Apple has again beaten expectations I mean that might not have been quite so hard as usual because this time expectations have been low because of the declining iPhone demand in China but nonetheless Apple just keeps on earning where are you surprised at the results well this is always a tough quarter to predict because we're coming off of the holiday quarter and of course um Apple's going to sell less things because there's less things to buy nothing's been announced and we had some Macs and stuff but really it's just always going to be a tough compare to the previous years especially if Apple sneaks in a Mac in January for some reason um but this time uh they they did pretty well and it I think it's not entirely surprising just because again Apple makes all the money they sell all the things they do a pretty good job yes it is interesting isn't it that uh there are massive massive companies that have died but you look at Apple and it if it earns less it earns more you know it's not going anywhere I remember Mike wly working out once on Apple Insider that if Apple sold no iPhones no Max or anything it still had enough money in the bank to coast along for at least five years or something like that so we've got Apple for at least another half a decade yeah okay but it won't be it won't be quite the Apple we know will it because of all the work that's going on in the EU and as we record this um Apple has just agreed basically that it will um comply with the European Union's directive about the iPad it's been a little bit doubtful about this because the iPhone clearly fits everything the EU has said about being a gatekeeper as they call it the number of users the exclusivity all of this the iPad actually doesn't fit the eu's own definition of these things but the EU has said oh go on we'll count it anyway and surprisingly Apple has said all right then we we'll do that it could object I mean there's an argument that at some point the iPad would tick at least some of the boxes but right now doesn't uh but instead of putting up a fight Apple has just agreed and we'll do it there will be within the EU third party app stores there will be again only within the EU the ability to download directly from websites and for the iPhone that's happening now for the iPad it'll just be sometime in the fall but it's coming where has the EU knocked the the stuffing out of apple or is it just that well we've done it already for the iPhone what's the difference I think this was inevitable uh the EU defines these rules they the arbitrary limits are very arbitrary they can just decide to change whatever they want whenever they want Apple knows that this is coming the United States Australia other other countries are interested in similar uh regulations at this point Apple would just be better off finding ways to satisfy these regulating bodies rather than fight fight against them tooth and nail because they're just going to inevitably lose and have to seed ground and this continuous back and forth it has to end at some point and maybe with this iPad decision we're finally seeing Apple say okay let's just do something to satisfy everyone starting with this iPad thing in the EU sure but this isn't the end of it we're going to see you know the doj case in the United States pushing for similar regulations and similar features in in the United States I think WWDC is going to have a lot of surprises no we're not going to get Sid loading in the United States uh that's not what I mean not not not in June anyway but I think Apple if you look at the last five six years right when we discuss the doj case and look at all the claims they've made Apple's already corrected most of those claims that they're making as far as antitrust so if Apple keeps pushing that forward what are they going to complain about in the future well the D seems to be quite happy to complain about all sorts of things that apple is no longer doing so I would have thought these things will just drag on forever and that it's it's like whenever you're in a dispute with a company and they've got your money they prefer the interest being in their account than in yours so Apple could keep pressing on and it would go to trial and it would loop around the legal system forever and they'd carry on well actually it's not like a bank thing is it cuz they're still going to make money through the uh people selling through third party so it's just maybe a fractionally lower amount okay so what's this about a change to the because this this news is just now coming in as we record uh we William walked hot off the presses and picked up the microphone so William Tell me about what what happened with apple and the fee that they're charging in the EU well previously on Apple when they announced the third party uh app stores for the EU they introduced a thing called The Core technology fee which actually doesn't seem unreasonable at all you're using Apple servers to get apps to people even if they're not coming directly from the App Store so you're benefiting from Apple's investment and Apple's continued maintenance fine so you pay a certain fee it's um about half a euro per app in store but only after certain conditions have been met like you get a million free installs in a year before that fee happens and apple when I was talking to them before the this was quite live it was like seconds away from going live they were saying they' actually looked through all of the figures for everything that app people earn app developers ear and uh it seemed to them that uh yes developers earn from the app but they also earn from advertising through the app through subscriptions through related events books that in any case a developer is earning several different pots of money and when they looked at all of them together they felt the core technology fee was fair particularly with this million gap but the moment it did go live and it was publicly announced people were pointing out there is a certain set of circumstances that could be really bad it's not massively likely but if you or I decided to release an app on the App Store for free um and it went viral it sold sold it was downloaded over a million times suddenly we without any income from that app would be liable for the core technology fee and it would very quickly amount to an amazing amount of money that we don't have this was pointed out by developers and even though I think Apple was right that it's pretty unlikely to happen it is still definitely possible so for a few weeks now Apple has been saying stay tuned I quite like this we talked about this before they didn't say we've got the answer they just said we don't know but we're working on it and as of now they've worked on it and there are new rules uh one of them that would particularly just killed off that possible free app going viral thing is if you are a nonprofit organization or you you're a student a hobbyist you make a free app and you tell Apple you are making a free app not for profit then you will never be charged the core technology fee you do have to tell Apple every year and your income it can't be that you're not making profit from just this app if you had two apps and one of them was free you wouldn't get a a free ride for the free one it's your total app income and they talk about global income as well so this does have does affect people around the world but broadly speaking anybody worried about going viral and being stung for a lot of money they can relax and alongside that there is a second one that a tier they call for small developers a small developer is someone who's earning under 10 million EUR so about 10.7 million do if they ear under that they get on to what Apple's calling an on-ramp a threeyear long on-ramp to the core technology fee which means at first nothing they're fine they carry on and then eventually it'll grow up uh into the full fee and there's a difference um if you stop being quite such a small developer if you earn somewhere between 10 million and 50 million EUR which is what 10.7 to about 54 is Million Dollar within those three years if you go up to that level annually during that three-year period Then you those companies will start having to pay the core technology fee and it will be the same thing that they start paying after the first million first installs as Apple calls it but there is a difference their fee for those three years will be capped at1 million EUR annually so 1 7ish million dollars and then one last bit is if that developer that same lucky developer grows further in the time and actually exceeds 50 million EUR then tough all deals are off you're paying the core technology fee and think yourself lucky for it which seems all right to me if you're earning 50 million euros from your app paying half a million per install I suppose depends on the price of the apps it's still going to be a significant sum apple is not walking away and leaving a lot of money on the table here but it seems to me having genuinely just come off the call from Apple about this that it seems well worked out for it um does it sound reasonable to you or are you sitting there thinking well I'm not going to develop any apps now no well I think this is exactly what uh the EU developers needed to hear it definitely covers a lot of bases uh developers like Riley testut they're not going in to be a nonprofit at least not anymore so he he he actually uh finances his apps uh and his alternative app Marketplace through patreon which is something you can't do uh with apps in the United States not directly anyway so that is definitely an interesting thing he's doing I think he's actually earning a little bit of money not much uh per per user that gets the access to the marketplace through patreon uh so great that they're figuring out ways for people to either make money and pay or at the very least not have to pay if they're just you know 16 developing an app in high school not now 10 million sounds like a pretty big number but if you're making that much money you're obviously getting more than 1 million per year and that's I guess somewhere in that VIN diagram is do I have enough money to pay the half Euro fee per install so I'm glad Apple's thinking about this they're taking steps but it all makes me kind of wonder is was this all worth the trouble is Apple making the money that like what what's the difference if we could just take it plain we'll never know but if we could just take the numbers and say did would Apple have made more money with the the base 30% fee 15% fee had they just done something to prevent the EU from regulating them into this situation to prevent the dma uh would they be making more money then or are they making more money now or are they basically breaking even and that that's the Curious Thing here Apple I think is trying to say face in the side of Regulation but what what is the result here I and I I honestly believe it's net positive for everyone at least so far the initial rules were fine but uh had a lot of terrible oops moments you know going bankrupt because you down someone downloaded your app a million times suddenly your app gets really popular and when one single City somewhere and you're just uh out of millions of dollars didn't sound really great so I'm glad Apple's addressing all these concerns one by one but they're getting there yeah we won't ever know the total like you said but Apple does have an online calculator for any one developer that they can look to see whether they would individually be better off sticking with apple 30% or moving on and I thought that was interesting they actually they put that outside of the uh developer pay wall so that anyone can see for it and I worked through it and I saw some horrendous figures coming out the end I imagine it's been incredibly finally worked out and apple is as close as it possibly can going to get the same amount of money it did before but I like what you say that it's good for people sorry do you soor do you think Apple could have avoided the dma do you think that this regulation was inevitable like apple could have done anything in the world to try to appease the EU but this would have still come or was this whole thing avoidable could Apple have made a decision beforehand to prevent all of these antitrust claims coming down from all these get any antitrust claims for years and years nobody seemed to notice it was only as things got bigger and Rivals got bigger and I don't believe that this stuff is coming from uh consumers I believe it's coming from rival companies so even though the EU is saying it's doing it on behalf of the consumers and I think that's more honorable and true than say Spotify making that claim I still I don't right I don't see all the benefits for consumers that are being promised I mean you think this is all good news and I'm interested in that how will how would all of this help me or you if we were within the EU well I think first of all I want to point out I suppose to answer my own question Spotify um I believe is the entire reason the dma exists uh at Le at the very least as it exists today I I'm sure that we'd have eventually arrived at some sort of Regulation but Spotify was definitely the force uh they basically lived uh in the uh by the Halls yelling from a megaphone for about for nearly a decade asking for some kind of Regulation against Apple because you know the biggest music maker in the world that can't make a profit was really mad that Apple was asking for money that they weren't paying them anyway so all all very fun uh why is this good I think it it's a mixed bag for sure it's e it's it's good in the fact that I'm glad that there are things forcing Apple to open up its ecosystem and think of ways to do it safely because I think it's necessary that this these Technologies be accessible and something like emulators being allowed in the App Store globally would never have happened without this so there is a net benefit to this kind of regulatory pressure but I think there's also a problem because the people regulating these things don't understand the technology they're trying to regulate so while we are seeing some good there is also going to be a potential backfire as basically if the only thing that ever happened was the EU put out the dma and that was the end of regulation and apple complied with it and we got what we got out of it it would probably be a net positive but because the dma exists other countries namely the United States are seeing that and saying we need some of that too but they're going to probably overstep over regulate and ask for more than the EU got and then it's going to become a competition to see who can get apple to bend over more until finally we just I don't know end up in a place where Apple has to completely break IOS which I don't I don't think that's going to happen Apple's pretty smart in how it's implementing these things so far they haven't had to got out of their way to destroy encryption or privacy but it's it's a double-edged sword for sure you said I keep forgetting about emulators CU for whatever reason I'm not a gamer and you are you've just been away for a time and I I picture you somewhere with your um Apple Vision Pro being Borrowed by all your friends who want to have a look at it and you're left there with just your iPhone have you been playing it's Delta isn't it have you been using Delta emulator on your iPhone and what do you think now it's actually out there and being used it's pretty amazing honestly I I'm waiting for other emulators they still haven't arrived but uh there are some promises like Providence could be coming soon and that'll bring uh Playstation uh emulation there's been some Whispers from other developers but I think those have all fallen out we're not going to see dolphin which is a GameCube emulator because uh Justin Time compilation isn't allowed even with emulation uh at least not yet and the chips there there is a way past it technically speaking eventually the a series chip in the iPhone or the M series chip in the iPad could theoretically have a strong enough CPU to just run an entire GameCube on it without needing just in time compilation uh but it hasn't got to that point yet we're we're nearly there funny enough uh like there's examples online if you go look for them of the dolphin uh Creator running GameCube games solely on the CPU it runs at like 15 frames per second but the fact that it runs it all is impressive uh me 15 frames meaning half as good as it needs to for it to be a passable video game um it's it's not there yet but no Delta's awesome it's uh has access to multiple Nintendo platforms I own many of these cartridges over the Nintendo 64 Super Nintendo gamey boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance like having all these games and cartridges I've been buying Hardware to play them right so I have a CRT set up in my bedroom with a Nintendo 64 hooked up to it uh so I can play 64 games but the fact that I can now just take those games and upload them to my phone and play them anywhere with a dedicated physical controller that's amazing and I love that this is growing into something we're seeing a lot of support uh now that it's kind of out there it's been the number one app in the app store since Delta released and that hasn't changed so people people know about it this is a very ticktock ification effect of news where this is such a cool feature that everyone's just being told Go download this app go figure out how to get a hold of some of 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mystery there all the answers there bar one I don't understand how I get a game that I own onto an emulator on the iPhone I mean physically how do I move it well there's actual real methods you can go buy cartridge uh adapters that you plug in your Game Boy or your Nintendo 64 game into a little dongle that plugs in over USB to your Mac and then you can literally just see it as a file the cartridge becomes a file and you can go in and copy out the ROM uh which is the readon memory on the cartridge that's why they're called ROMs so you grab that pull it out and Bam you just have an executable file that you stick into Delta and it runs that's that's how emulators work uh this is a gray area I don't know how much I my memory is I haven't been on the show in two weeks so now I don't remember anything we've ever talked about in the entire history of the show uh but I can't remember how much we dove into em Ed before we even had a chance actually I believe I missed out the Delta must have come out the day I went on vacation I think so and then I have we talked about the gray areas and the leg legality of ROMs and things um well I can cover yeah one other cuz I I did listen to those shows and they were very good I can cover something that wasn't really discussed just for the audience's benefit please yeah I understand there there yeah there are arguments out there about emulation and and ROMs uh of around piracy and it's very much a gray area like you just said I I believe that the law allows you to say if you own the physical object so if you go somewhere this this law is a million years old do do you know the basis of the law in the United States for this particular only I believe it's the same as with DVDs and Blu-rays there's an argument that if you own it you can use it but I wouldn't like to test it in court well this was tested in court but very specifically VHS recordings this is how old this law is and and it's it it it hasn't been tried since I don't believe they just they've left it alone uh so people so company that I don't know some the people who made cheers wanted to sue someone for owning copies of Cheers on VHS because they set their VHS to record cheers every day at 7:30 when it came on or whatever um so they could come home from work and watch it right because they would miss it otherwise the court upheld that because the broadcast was paid for or free and open over the air what what have you and sent to the television it was now accessible by the user to do whatever they want with it including record it and that that goes to all of these other things where if it if a video is played on your screen at home uh technically you can record it unless it has uh encryption uh which means like if you have a Blu-ray disc it's encrypted you can't record that without it being technically illegal to make a copy so there is very specific arguments here but that's why classic emulators and ROMs are part of this because they're not encrypted uh Nintendo 64 cartridges all the way up to uh even Dreamcast and I I would I want to say PlayStation 2 Gamecube that whole generation and be and previous to that are all pretty much accessible just by plugging them into a computer because that of how the technology was formatted so as long as you own the physical copy technically owning a digital version of it is totally legal now how you get that digital version and all of that hasn't been tried in court so for me to say I own Pokemon Yellow so I'm allowed to go to a website and download Pokemon Yellow technically speaking that hasn't been tried in court someone might be able to argue that's piracy uh but what is 100% totally legal allowed is I can take my Pokemon Yellow hook it up to a little dongle and take the ROM off of it totally totally allow that's that's where things get a little fishy and I'm not going to sit here here and say go pirate games or anything I'm just going to say these games are obtainable in real life go to a go to a your local flea markets or retro game stores they're all there some of them are reasonably priced some of them are hundreds of dollars because they're collector's items but the emulator side of things totally completely legal uh someone was making fun of on a different podcast of what if Apple tried to show Delta at a event because it's the number one app but all they could show is an empty app because they couldn't show at running Mario but I I that's that's my last point is well I have two more points real real very quickly I know I'm going long um one number one is these old consoles you can still develop for them funny enough uh and there are a lot of free or cheap uh Indie what you can call indie games online of ROMs made for Game Boy that aren't you know just rips of Pokémon people added things to this these are actual totally original games that are available online so if you want to get a Nintendo 64 game emulator and play a game that never existed and physically that is possible like and people who are interested in developing a Game Boy Color game can do it now and have a place to play it and put it like that's interesting to me but then that's my final point is historical data uh go I can't get into it here but go and look into the um video game archive video game history they're a nonprofit in the United States and they are working very hard to basically catalog and archive all video games and it's something like 60% of video games are not playable before a certain point and and and uh we we've lost so much information imagine if just a chunk of the Library of Congress and this was the only copy we had just fell into the sea never to be seen again right we just lost all of these books and media and movies this video games is are uniquely positioned as the only thing in the world ever to exist in humanity that requires a specific television a specific connector and a specific unit to go and view that media and so much of it has been lost because we've drug our heels on actually preserving it so emulators are also about preservation that that's that's you say this is the only time it's happened but we'll never know what we lost at the Alexandria library and the fire I mean there could have been a version of video no you're just looking at me now listen I'm I'm really glad you're back I love this kind of stuff but the fact that you were away I'm terribly intrigued whether you were bothered by something that did affect me are you even aware that there was uh like an Apple ID security problem for at least a lot of uh users did you hit this at all I've heard people talk about it uh but no this did not affect me at all and what's surprising me even more is Apple has said nothing about it well it just I'm if you haven't had it and I'm glad but just so you know it it sounds trivial all that happens is I picked up my iPhone and it said your icard account been locked for security reasons you must reset your password so you reset your password fine but it also it wipes out all your specific passwords so um I've had to redo passwords for Fantastical on both of my Macs my iPad and my iPhone separately getting the more different ones and for some reason and who knows why even trying to log in to change those I've been getting uh we can't do this your password enter your password again and then when you do that it takes you back to the start I know for me a problem is that I have several Apple IDs so part of it was which ID was tied to which app and which app specific password and it drove me spare partly because it happened it happened to me first I noticed it uh while I was at home so I was actually able to fix our Apple TV set for my wife but then when I was away and I wanted to remote control something into my Mac I couldn't do it because I couldn't get through the ID stuff drove me spare for a bit and I believe right now it's all sorted out but I keep finding yet another problem that this ID thing has happened and I would like apple to explain there's so many things attached to this password that once you change it there there just so many tiny things break so two things need to happen one apple what what happened did someone try to like break in did Siri ai go Rogue and start deleting things or uh what happened but two why is everything tied to the change of a password that feels a little broken I'm glad nothing was lost it just it's highly inconvenient imagine if you're in a situation where you have to change your password then you have to go down a checklist of things that you need to go reenable or reset because your password changed um people were talking about how this affected them and maybe they were away from home and they got this message to change their uh password but then they got the 1 hour delay because of uh stolen device protection uh all all kinds of weird problems happening here and again Apple just never really put out a reason of course this is probably just some stupid server side issue something got unplugged uh because someone wanted to uh make a panini and they plugged in their uh port Grill and unplug the server Farm running Apple ID to do it it happens all the time so it's hard to say friend of babyc yes they probably should fire a friend of BBC sent me a photograph once of a couple of racks of servers and a single cable running between them and on the cable was a piece of paper saying this is the BBC World Service all of it go through that cable yes so I can well see that happen but actually I realized do you know I must have switched on that um extra security layer the 1 hour delay thing because that's the one thing I wasn't affected by and now I'm torn because I intended to switch it on now do I do yeah I probably will yes definitely probably it's it's actually quite fine as a security thing I have this feature enabled with the time delay and everything and I keep forgetting that I should go and just change my past code back to being six digits uh because I still have a very long alpha numeric code that I have to put in and it's fine but it's just a headache if I ever need to put it in I don't think I need that now given this this protection exists because even if someone has my passcode they can't do anything unless they're at home or or uh they even the waiting an hour doesn't work because they don't have my Biometrics so it makes me feel a lot more secure so that that's a reminder to me to change my passcode back to a six I'm still not going to sa to down dark alleys in London late at night flashing around ,000 iPhone but stolen device protection well I don't know why that won't stick in my head but yes we we know what it is yeah it's it's such a that phrase just escapes me and you want to know another phrase that escapes me it'll come up a little bit later yes repair State I've written about repair State four times in the last two days and I it just I keep trying to write safety something I don't know my brain keeps thinking sa it's called Safety Dance I don't know it's repair State anyway just put point out moment ago you put the Cheers theme into my head and now Safety Dance Men Without Hats I'm having an 80s Revival as we be but I tell you you can't keep me waiting repair State I know this is a new thing that's supposed to stop problems when you you know the you're giving your phone in for repairs something happens but what is it it's it's actually exactly that okay that's the whole story it's one sentence it's funny it's funny how it's just come up in a couple of Articles I've written but I I keep having to come up with the phrase but it is very straightforward right now when you need to repair your iPhone and send it in you have to disable fine my uh to do so it's for security reasons and they can't do anything with your phone they can't pair parts properly because the parts would be technically then paired to a device that's registered I I don't know it causes issues so you have to uh turn off find my and then they do the stuff send it back and you log back in and everything's fine well now repair state which is coming in iOS 17.5 which should be out probably next week I'm guessing uh with after the iPad announcements um this feature will basically say you're sending your device in for repair fine why stays on the whole time but it also lets the people repairing your phone do their job without running into the issues very nice except no sorry uh can open worms everywhere you just mentioned something big the iPad next week are you excited by this cuz I know you're Apple Vision Pro man now but you have long been iPad man um are you ready to drop money and buy four different iPads I'll buy all of them just have instead of monitors I just have different iPads around my desk um well right now I have two iPads at my desk so that that's I'm halfway there so the thing about iPad real quick I still use mine all the time because is Vision Pro I I've I've mentioned on the show before so someone's heard this before I'm sure uh I love it it's great wear it on my face work from it all the time cool can't really do a product review with Vision Pro in my head not seeing the world the same way if I'm interacting with a controller a backpack or a car stereo whatever I'm writing about a bicycle I'm not going to ride the my the bike with the Vision Pro on it it has to come off you know as much as I want to live in this thing I I do have to take it off and when I'm working with a device I need to see with my eyes feel with my hands it's better to be in the real world and have a computer in front of me with the screen which is for me the iPad um max over on a bookshelf don't worry but the so the iPad is still very much my work computer and I I'm moving between the two so I haven't abandoned the iPad for the Vision Pro and as The Vision Pro exists today I don't think I could uh not because the Vision Pro is limited just because I I suppose it is limited but only by my eyesight an ability to actually see the world in front of me in a in an appropriate way maybe in the future when it's true AR it'll be different but right now I'm not going to write about a keyboard and describe its design while looking at it through the Vision Pro if you understand my meaning yeah but getting to the uh event coming up May 7th my goodness it it snuck up on us very quickly uh it was basically announced I think when I went on vacation and now I'm back to talk about it very exciting uh this has been coming for a while the supply chain has been showing hints of iPad pros and iPad Airs for ever uh We've expected them earlier in the year this is actually a very unprecedented time for Apple to release anything um May is almost never any honestly probably never anything uh it's usually April or nothing so iPads i expect it's just the pro and the air no mini and mini and St regular iPad that'll be the fall cuz those still need an update and I'm sure they will get them but yes very excited I I will personally be buying the biggest and most powerful iPad and whatever keyboard and whatever pencil they I release I'm very I Ian I I probably won't because I I have an 11in iPad Pro and I like it very much and just economically the amount of use I get out of it I I shouldn't really buy another one but I'm very tempted by 12. 9 in one except what he just said there about the keyboard that I think the magic keyboard on the 12.9 in iPad Pro at the moment is enormous it's like a yacht rather than a keyboard and presumably it' be the same for the iPad Air 12.9 if not exactly the same model so I'm wondering about that but of course the killer thing if it is real if it ever happens is this claim that the presumably the iPad Pro will have an M4 processor in it before anything else up to now now their latest M's have gone into Max and it's actually been originally was a really big deal that they put it into the iPad at all but now this claim that iPad comes first what do you think the odds are of that this is a weird one normally I would say no uh there's just no no possible way but um Apple's proven us wrong multiple times and how it's doing its M series chips they just released three at the same time a couple months ago which is completely different uh the M3 Max I'm yeah M3 Max sorry not Max Ultra the M3 Ultra still doesn't exist will there be an M3 Ultra will Apple just say no thank you this time and say if you want an Ultra Computer the M2 Ultra is enough and you can go buy a Mac Studio and a Mac Pro with that chip today and maybe they'll start taking it every other year approach with that will they announce an M4 now and then an M3 Ultra in a month I don't know the people buying those um computers Mac Studio and Mac Pro know what these things are they're not going to be hurt by brand recognition of oh it's an M3 this must be worse than the M4 obviously it's not it's the ultra chip people buying those computers know that and I think Apple knows that so maybe there's a chance that they don't care that they're out of order but long story short beyond my own opinion there are signs that this is happening not just in the supply chain but in the operating system there have been code hints suggesting that an M4 processor will be used or something like it so maybe we're all confused maybe this is an iPad chipset maybe we're going back to Apple having maybe there's a a series for iPhone and M series for mac and iPad gets its own thing again and this just looks like an M4 encode or maybe some this there's so many possibilities here I'm not sure but what's really cool to me what excites me the most is if this is a not M3 and it's something better then I made the right decision skipping the M2 uh cuz I currently have the M1 iPad Pro so I'm very I'm very happy that I just completely missed the M2 I don't I don't care about hover apple pencil hover I it was never going to be a thing I was going to use nothing else changed about the iPad 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trees.com code Apple Insider and thank you to Fasto trees for supporting the Apple Insider podcast my interest is focused on the 12.9 in iPad Air because I have this possibly erroneous idea that it'll be cheaper than a 12.9 iPad Pro I mean it will be but maybe not by much I'm thinking Apple has to differentiate the iPad Pro from its predecessors and from the air and you're thinking so that the OLED screen will do it the keyboard is there anything else they can do to make it a must buy well promotion still is a thing uh that's very much useful I think it's it's nice especially on that larger display promotion is visible on the iPhone um if you hold two phones side by side but it's incredibly obvious once you move to that larger display um how how much work promotion is doing for scrolling and uh it's video games can access it uh I could imagine maybe Delta emulator making a 120 frames per second game boy game which would be really funny but I think that it's more than just the display so OLED is a part of it but it's it's it's a part of a whole you get the Thunderbolt port in the iPad Pro uh so I have a full-on thunderbolt interface plugged into my iPad Pro every day uh on the M1 iPad Pro the iPad Air is not going to have that it's going to be uh USB 3 just the same as it was it's also so the better display so you're getting promotion OLED Thunderbolt uh possibly a better camera system on the back that's not totally important for most people but imagine too if you're a videographer or some maybe a YouTuber and you have and you need a alternate camera a camera with depth sensing information with the lar scanner and a high megapixel count capable of maybe even recording spatial video if they do that in the iPad Pro all of these things possible with a extra large screen to look at it all all really fun could you imagine that just I I don't know why this just hit me this is totally off topic but thinking of recording spatial video on an iPad Pro could you imagine if Apple pulled some wild thing out of a hat and said this is also a 3D display based based on the the reason why I say that is because if anyone who here listening owned a 3DS a Nintendo 3DS it had a 3D display that you didn't need glasses for it was basically a lenticular display uh kind of like the Vision Pro that had a slider and it kind of pulled the background away from the foreground and it it worked it was interesting but anyway I don't I don't know why that hit me they're never going to do that but it's just kind of funny to me that maybe the iPad would one day have a 3D display to play some videos but what what what what makes you think iPad Air over iPad Pro why cuz you're getting the I don't I don't think you're going to get the same chip this is probably where the M4 uh generation coming from if the M4 goes iPad Pro what if the iPad Air gets M3 what if there always a generation behind it's likely to be that I just I my problem is that I missed the 12.9 inness of it and when I bought the 11 just uh I couldn't really justify the price of the 12.9 in then and since then I bought a 14in MacBook Pro and I'm finding my use of my iPad it's dramatically less than it was so therefore mentally I just the justification for spending a lot more money on something that I won't use enough that bothers me uh that puts me off an iPad Pro so the iPad Air being a larger screen you could tick a few boxes there but on the other hand it's just I I used to like the fact that I had the original iPad Pro the 12.9 H1 and I had an iPad Air and it's amazing how many events things I would do where I would need or benefit from having both of them there I'd quite like to go back to that but yeah I I I think the best combination anyone could have is a 12.9 in iPad Pro and an iPad Mini It's the Best of Both Worlds um I still would honestly personally only own one iPad if it was an uh 7in iPad Mini with Pro motion OLED display and a thunderbolt Port just saying Apple if you want to make that with an M4 processor just make an iPad Pro Mini that would be the I would throw everything else away that would be the one computer I would use and just plug it into a giant display when I need it anyway the iPad Pro I I I I do want to say this magic keyboard intrigues me the most I wonder is it going to have the uh what is it called kental lever it is it going to have the floating iPad assumed it would but uh or is it going to be more like a bridge keyboard where the iPad just sits in there uh because rumors suggest that this is an aluminum enclosure with plastic key caps kind of like a Macbook and with a even larger glass trackpad uh than the current iPad magic keyboard this thing is going to be a massive aluminum keyboard and the iPad being thinner I wonder too if it's going to be exclusive to the iPad Pro or if the iPad air will be able to use it or if that thinness breaks the compatibility uh the weight of this keyboard too the iPad Pro with magic keyboard weighs more than a MacBook Air right now and making it aluminum and I I'm not sure someone did make a point uh I'll go ahead and say Federico vtii I believe on the connected podcast made a point that I had not thought of before what if Apple this would be called the mag keyboard what if Apple comes out with a singular modular keyboard that could connect to all Apple devices the way airpods do and they automatically switch when you need it how amazing would that be and this would be like the first product in that lineup That would be able to do that you know so for me A Vision Pro user with an iPad with a modular Apple keyboard that connects to everything yeah these are all rumors I'm ex Tuesday cannot come fast enough is all I'm saying my money my money is ready just Apple go I'm not drawn by that keyboard idea because I mean I've even got a few of them in the office there Logitech Bluetooth keyboards with three buttons to connect to different devices for it I feel like we've already had that and you know Apple would do it in a smoother way somehow but it was plenty smooth enough an entire button you got to press a button I know it's like the olden days going to school over cobblestones Barefoot pressing buttons yes Back to the Future you mean I have to use my hands this is a baby store you know you're saying there about plugging iPad Mini into larger screen I've realized what I would really like is an iPhone that runs Mac OS when you plug it into a larger monitor to be able to take your entire Computing world with you in your pocket come on Apple that's what we want give me that that that's the 2012 dream that will never die I like the idea of decks Samsung does this with Android and uh well Android desktop if you want to call it that it's fine it works I think Apple could do it better but I wonder if they'll ever go that far they they claimed that they were never going to merge iPad OS and Mac OS well great they're not going to they'll just be two distinct operating systems running on one device I yeah I don't know if they'll go that route it would be interesting it's just it's it's hard to say anymore but this is these these are very interesting products to me I'm I'm happy Apple's back to the iPad uh they took a little break and my wallet needed it so thank you Apple but uh let's let's let's go crazy next week is going to be an interesting show we'll be back to break down everything Apple announced at that event and we'll be discussing exactly how much money we uh which colors we went for you know the really key questions there not I'm not knocking that actually but Che that's thought about the break I said to you that since my iPad Pro I bought the 14in MacBook Pro and that's getting on for that can't be three years old now but yeah I mean I know there's been another iPad since I got mine the M2 version but still that feels like a very long time for me to have an iPad I should update that's what I should do isn't it I should yeah work with me on this yes okay I mean of course uh imagine Watching Ted lasso on an Ola display okay that you can right so undone there thanks for that all right I was looking forward to Tuesday all gone now okay uh but I am aware all right you like Ted lasso and I believe there is some Ted lasso news break it to me what's happening what's going so you have seen it see that's a quote from the from the show I believe is they say lot tell the number of quotes I have from TV and drama Angelo will be watching a film in the middle of the night and suddenly there'll be a line that she thinks of as mine and I'll hear this laugh from downstairs for it but um it's unlikely to be Ted lasso so uh okay but yes so I'm wrong there's no tetas on use I can safely move on no yeah well there's the tin no that it's it's coming out on Blu-ray I fine if you really want to own a physical copy of something go nuts I don't remember the last time I oh I'm sorry I do remember the last time I bought a Blu-ray I this is the nerdiest thing ever I bought the 4K Ultra whatever Blu-ray version of Final Fantasy 7 Avent children because I love that series anyway uh that's a thing that exists otherwise no I don't think I've bought a physical piece of media since about 2013 I think I might be able to beat you here cuz I would say generally the same no physical media for a long time but actually on my desk right beside me now is DVD copy of death at Broadcasting House a film from about the 1930s um set in BH there so I recognize bits of the building from where I used to work and it's this oldie worldy very heightened um well I was going to say murder mystery the book it's based done it is serious and murdering broadcasting house yes this is a bit lighter and kind of things but I could not get it in any other way so I bought a disc and it then took me 3 weeks to find my DVD player and I've finally done it and left this actually I've left the desk on my desk with no idea what to do with it now but I enjoyed that film so if we have five minutes before we conclude our show I do want to do a very quick run through some of the leaks that we oh yeah please cuz I've realized actually when you mentioned the code things about M for I'd missed that so I think hang on you were away and you're more on top of things than I am what does that say about me yeah give me leaks what are we waiting for what's happening well I listen to way too many podcasts if that helps but there are um a number of leaks uh that Apple Insider has been sharing exclusively from people familiar with things going on over on uh the fruit side of things and it's really exciting to see maybe what might be coming at WWDC so if you've been paying attention to Apple Insider please go give these articles a look maybe you've missed them but we've talked about already uh what new features might be coming to Apple notes calculator Safari and calendar SL reminders so all of these are getting some pretty significant updates uh we we can dive into whatever you'd like what what jumps out to as the biggest one to you Apple notes calculator calendar reminders what leaps out to me is that there's no mention of mail which is where I would like to see some advance but Safari out of that list Safari that that is my browser of choice I use others because I have to but I like Safari what can you do so apart from speeding up the translation thing translation on Safari fantastic but having to uh click on wait for the right button to appear in the to bar and click on it at just the right time and then wait for it I'd rather you know just a keyboard shortcut to I did set up a stream deck button to do it but what it did was push the button for me um I would like an advance there but otherwise Safari what more could you add to it it looks like we're getting a few new features so fir first off Apple might be sherlocking some content blockers uh basically content blocking it otherwise known as ad blocking uh Apple I think likes the term cont content because it sounds less um offensive to people who write Publications that need ads to make money but the content blocking side of things that there are a lot of things that you don't want to see maybe on a website and Apple has given us the ability that this exist in third party apps this is fully a Sherlock but now you'll be able to click a button in Safari and then click an element on a website you don't want to see and it will make it disappear it's it's gone it's called the web eraser uh you will be able to erase content uh so if you see this um let's say Banner ad or a thing saying buy me please or what have you app uh you can click on it basically behind the scenes there is H lines of HTML code that basically say this ad block goes here and apple will pull out that code and say ad block hide this ad block it's gone and it will remember that you said that so as long as that appears on that web page every time you visit that web page it will be gone it is a built-in version of content blocking a little more manual but uh if you use content blockers um ad block plus or anything like that on Safari no you may have noticed that it doesn't get everything so Apple has given us the ability to pick and choose what pieces I don't tend to knock out ads because I work on websites and know they're needed and sometimes they're actually useful but there was one website recently I was trying to I just needed to look up a fact on on it and I I could I was practically blinded by the ads that were popping up over the stuff I was trying to read so I for the first time in ages I turned on safar's read of viw and for the first time ever it it made no difference on this site and I cannot work out why so yeah the ability I mean it would have taken me eight clicks or something to get rid of things but it would have been worth it so all right noted my my method of content blocking is mostly centered around aggressive um anti-consumer kind of uh popups and things web ads don't really bother me that much uh going to a website and seeing an ad doesn't offend me or anything they got to make money uh but these things that follow you around like okay for example I have a list of book bookmark lists that's just for shopping and sometimes I'll go through and click on each website to see if there's any updates to products that I want to buy every single one has a login uh so therefore when you go to that website and you're not logged in and I I don't have logins for these cuz I don't care uh would you like to join our newsletter would you like this coupon code I get six or seven popup I can't see the content on the web page for the number of pop-ups I get asking me to please your God buy something uh subscribe give us your email address so we can make money selling that on the side uh please please please beg beg beg just make that go away that that that's my biggest use got to get rid of all those annoyances right like just make the web browsable again that's that's kind of my view of content blocking I don't yeah I I want people to make money I I mean we we use ads on our website of course so it's one of those things where I think Apple knows this that is people get more desperate for money they're getting more aggressive so there needs to be tools to fight these things but it it's as I've said before it's a double-edged sword but there are two more features coming to Safari can you make a guess um not ad blockers not translation uh it's going to be something to do with AI I don't know what but okay um does it uh find the websites you want to look at and then look at them for you so you don't have to no kind of we don't actually know very much about this system so there's uh what we do know is there is a a new uniform I'm sorry a new unified menu uh in the address bar right now if you click the on iPad Mac weirdly enough doesn't have any real menus in the address bar you have to go to the menu bar I know it's just I have to move my wrist a lot to get to that menu bar it's so far away but on iPad OS the superior operating system you can click in the address bar on the AA button on another Apple operating system yes you can click on the AA tap on the AA rather yeah uh and you and and you uh oh yeah it has mous support and you can see there's a menu drop down uh there that gives you a lot of options for mostly for managing content blockers uh you privacy settings this menu's getting an upgrade and uh iOS iPad OS Mac OS uh as of June they're all getting it including the Mac so the Mac is going to have a very ipad-like menu uh adopting their Superior methods so you can see all no I'm joke I kid so you can see all these things in one place but one of the buttons in this new menu that's unifying uh website controls ad control all this stuff one of the new items is Safari intelligence or uh browsing intelligence what it seems to do is give you access to website summaries so as you say go to a website with a bunch of words maybe it'll give you what the topic is and break down paragraphs maybe quick links to items in the page we don't really know how it works yet but it seems to be that type of feature kind of like the arc browser but um I'm sure Apple will have an interesting way of implementing it it seems to run alongside your browsing session rather than creating a separate browsing session which is what Arc does what Arc does is take all the content on a web page and creates an entirely new web page with all the content summarized for you and it's taking you off of the website removing you from the ADP space it's very bad for anyone who on the internet like Arc we've talked about it before wants to break how the internet works but I think Apple's will be more of a in browser system of uh you're on a web page with this article and it and it wants to tell you about this information whatever or maybe it'll detect scams better whatnot but it's a toggle it's off by default the user has to turn it on but it's called browsing intelligence it's going to have something to do with AI none of that's turned on yet no one can really tell anyone what it's doing so we'll find out that's that sounds fun and there's a third tinier thing that's not working yet but there's it's called visual search I believe it's kind of an extension of where you take a photo with your phone on in photos app it shows up uh it's a cat it tells you it's a cat right and it tells you what species or a flower it tells you what flower that's going system wide and that includes Safari and I believe it'll let you search images from web pages and and give you more information on them but that is not ready yet it's some sort of visual search AI aspect but that may not come until much later in the iOS 18 release cycle perhaps 2025 or maybe even iOS 19 but it seems to be in testing but we don't know that much about it either but AI stuff is coming to Safari it actually sounds useful isn't I actually I actually said that I was glad you were back and then you went off on your iPad versus MAC things so fine um uh how about this um let's say on that bomshell I'm going to go off to Blockbuster or wherever it is that you get physical media and queue up to by Ted lasso and while I'm there and also findable on William at upser.com where can people find you Wes well I'm increasingly active on midon I've actually considered what can I do to erase my Twitter without deleting it but that's a whole different story you can still message me there I'll I'll respond but uh Mason's where I am uh go give me a follow there I've recently surpassed my Twitter follower account on madon so that's that's exciting uh happy about that but um no if you want to uh send me an email comment on anything about the show uh you can email me directly it's findable at the top of any article I've written but yeah reach out I'll be uh living in my vision Pro and playing a lot of Fallout 4 well I should also put that of course you can catch where on uh our other podcast homekit Insider and if you're an apple Insider plus subscriber you can find him in about oh 30 seconds time talking about I mean I'd love this I'm so looking forward to this and calling it just the history of the iPad that's nothing you just wait till you hear that if you're up inside a plus subscriber but in the meantime thank you very much for listening thanks too to our sponsors back Blaze and fast going trees we'll be back next weekhello welcome to the Apple Insider podcast I'm William Gallagher our sponsors this week are back Blaze and fastgo trees more about them later and joining me back from his holidays and if actually if you're an apple Insider plus subscriber bringing us a little present where hyad where actually never mind about hello and how are you what's this about a present yeah today I'm going to be uh discussing the iPad in apple Insider plus uh it we've had a little anniversary recently of its launch uh in from 2010 to today so I'm going to be sharing a little bit of history with clips from the event from various things happening around the iPad and its launch so I think it'll be very fun very entertaining and I hope you guys enjoy it and uh stick around after the show to hear that if you are an apple Insider plus subscriber I'm so looking forward to that I was think of you as the iPad man and if if you aren't already and inside of plus sub subcriber and you'd like to be then you can do it through patreon or apple podcast subscriptions we'd love to do either way and actually if you just check the show notes you get all the details for that and actually while you're checking the notes that's where you will also find every detail and Analysis of Apple's latest earnings report the short version though is that Apple has again beaten expectations I mean that might not have been quite so hard as usual because this time expectations have been low because of the declining iPhone demand in China but nonetheless Apple just keeps on earning where are you surprised at the results well this is always a tough quarter to predict because we're coming off of the holiday quarter and of course um Apple's going to sell less things because there's less things to buy nothing's been announced and we had some Macs and stuff but really it's just always going to be a tough compare to the previous years especially if Apple sneaks in a Mac in January for some reason um but this time uh they they did pretty well and it I think it's not entirely surprising just because again Apple makes all the money they sell all the things they do a pretty good job yes it is interesting isn't it that uh there are massive massive companies that have died but you look at Apple and it if it earns less it earns more you know it's not going anywhere I remember Mike wly working out once on Apple Insider that if Apple sold no iPhones no Max or anything it still had enough money in the bank to coast along for at least five years or something like that so we've got Apple for at least another half a decade yeah okay but it won't be it won't be quite the Apple we know will it because of all the work that's going on in the EU and as we record this um Apple has just agreed basically that it will um comply with the European Union's directive about the iPad it's been a little bit doubtful about this because the iPhone clearly fits everything the EU has said about being a gatekeeper as they call it the number of users the exclusivity all of this the iPad actually doesn't fit the eu's own definition of these things but the EU has said oh go on we'll count it anyway and surprisingly Apple has said all right then we we'll do that it could object I mean there's an argument that at some point the iPad would tick at least some of the boxes but right now doesn't uh but instead of putting up a fight Apple has just agreed and we'll do it there will be within the EU third party app stores there will be again only within the EU the ability to download directly from websites and for the iPhone that's happening now for the iPad it'll just be sometime in the fall but it's coming where has the EU knocked the the stuffing out of apple or is it just that well we've done it already for the iPhone what's the difference I think this was inevitable uh the EU defines these rules they the arbitrary limits are very arbitrary they can just decide to change whatever they want whenever they want Apple knows that this is coming the United States Australia other other countries are interested in similar uh regulations at this point Apple would just be better off finding ways to satisfy these regulating bodies rather than fight fight against them tooth and nail because they're just going to inevitably lose and have to seed ground and this continuous back and forth it has to end at some point and maybe with this iPad decision we're finally seeing Apple say okay let's just do something to satisfy everyone starting with this iPad thing in the EU sure but this isn't the end of it we're going to see you know the doj case in the United States pushing for similar regulations and similar features in in the United States I think WWDC is going to have a lot of surprises no we're not going to get Sid loading in the United States uh that's not what I mean not not not in June anyway but I think Apple if you look at the last five six years right when we discuss the doj case and look at all the claims they've made Apple's already corrected most of those claims that they're making as far as antitrust so if Apple keeps pushing that forward what are they going to complain about in the future well the D seems to be quite happy to complain about all sorts of things that apple is no longer doing so I would have thought these things will just drag on forever and that it's it's like whenever you're in a dispute with a company and they've got your money they prefer the interest being in their account than in yours so Apple could keep pressing on and it would go to trial and it would loop around the legal system forever and they'd carry on well actually it's not like a bank thing is it cuz they're still going to make money through the uh people selling through third party so it's just maybe a fractionally lower amount okay so what's this about a change to the because this this news is just now coming in as we record uh we William walked hot off the presses and picked up the microphone so William Tell me about what what happened with apple and the fee that they're charging in the EU well previously on Apple when they announced the third party uh app stores for the EU they introduced a thing called The Core technology fee which actually doesn't seem unreasonable at all you're using Apple servers to get apps to people even if they're not coming directly from the App Store so you're benefiting from Apple's investment and Apple's continued maintenance fine so you pay a certain fee it's um about half a euro per app in store but only after certain conditions have been met like you get a million free installs in a year before that fee happens and apple when I was talking to them before the this was quite live it was like seconds away from going live they were saying they' actually looked through all of the figures for everything that app people earn app developers ear and uh it seemed to them that uh yes developers earn from the app but they also earn from advertising through the app through subscriptions through related events books that in any case a developer is earning several different pots of money and when they looked at all of them together they felt the core technology fee was fair particularly with this million gap but the moment it did go live and it was publicly announced people were pointing out there is a certain set of circumstances that could be really bad it's not massively likely but if you or I decided to release an app on the App Store for free um and it went viral it sold sold it was downloaded over a million times suddenly we without any income from that app would be liable for the core technology fee and it would very quickly amount to an amazing amount of money that we don't have this was pointed out by developers and even though I think Apple was right that it's pretty unlikely to happen it is still definitely possible so for a few weeks now Apple has been saying stay tuned I quite like this we talked about this before they didn't say we've got the answer they just said we don't know but we're working on it and as of now they've worked on it and there are new rules uh one of them that would particularly just killed off that possible free app going viral thing is if you are a nonprofit organization or you you're a student a hobbyist you make a free app and you tell Apple you are making a free app not for profit then you will never be charged the core technology fee you do have to tell Apple every year and your income it can't be that you're not making profit from just this app if you had two apps and one of them was free you wouldn't get a a free ride for the free one it's your total app income and they talk about global income as well so this does have does affect people around the world but broadly speaking anybody worried about going viral and being stung for a lot of money they can relax and alongside that there is a second one that a tier they call for small developers a small developer is someone who's earning under 10 million EUR so about 10.7 million do if they ear under that they get on to what Apple's calling an on-ramp a threeyear long on-ramp to the core technology fee which means at first nothing they're fine they carry on and then eventually it'll grow up uh into the full fee and there's a difference um if you stop being quite such a small developer if you earn somewhere between 10 million and 50 million EUR which is what 10.7 to about 54 is Million Dollar within those three years if you go up to that level annually during that three-year period Then you those companies will start having to pay the core technology fee and it will be the same thing that they start paying after the first million first installs as Apple calls it but there is a difference their fee for those three years will be capped at1 million EUR annually so 1 7ish million dollars and then one last bit is if that developer that same lucky developer grows further in the time and actually exceeds 50 million EUR then tough all deals are off you're paying the core technology fee and think yourself lucky for it which seems all right to me if you're earning 50 million euros from your app paying half a million per install I suppose depends on the price of the apps it's still going to be a significant sum apple is not walking away and leaving a lot of money on the table here but it seems to me having genuinely just come off the call from Apple about this that it seems well worked out for it um does it sound reasonable to you or are you sitting there thinking well I'm not going to develop any apps now no well I think this is exactly what uh the EU developers needed to hear it definitely covers a lot of bases uh developers like Riley testut they're not going in to be a nonprofit at least not anymore so he he he actually uh finances his apps uh and his alternative app Marketplace through patreon which is something you can't do uh with apps in the United States not directly anyway so that is definitely an interesting thing he's doing I think he's actually earning a little bit of money not much uh per per user that gets the access to the marketplace through patreon uh so great that they're figuring out ways for people to either make money and pay or at the very least not have to pay if they're just you know 16 developing an app in high school not now 10 million sounds like a pretty big number but if you're making that much money you're obviously getting more than 1 million per year and that's I guess somewhere in that VIN diagram is do I have enough money to pay the half Euro fee per install so I'm glad Apple's thinking about this they're taking steps but it all makes me kind of wonder is was this all worth the trouble is Apple making the money that like what what's the difference if we could just take it plain we'll never know but if we could just take the numbers and say did would Apple have made more money with the the base 30% fee 15% fee had they just done something to prevent the EU from regulating them into this situation to prevent the dma uh would they be making more money then or are they making more money now or are they basically breaking even and that that's the Curious Thing here Apple I think is trying to say face in the side of Regulation but what what is the result here I and I I honestly believe it's net positive for everyone at least so far the initial rules were fine but uh had a lot of terrible oops moments you know going bankrupt because you down someone downloaded your app a million times suddenly your app gets really popular and when one single City somewhere and you're just uh out of millions of dollars didn't sound really great so I'm glad Apple's addressing all these concerns one by one but they're getting there yeah we won't ever know the total like you said but Apple does have an online calculator for any one developer that they can look to see whether they would individually be better off sticking with apple 30% or moving on and I thought that was interesting they actually they put that outside of the uh developer pay wall so that anyone can see for it and I worked through it and I saw some horrendous figures coming out the end I imagine it's been incredibly finally worked out and apple is as close as it possibly can going to get the same amount of money it did before but I like what you say that it's good for people sorry do you soor do you think Apple could have avoided the dma do you think that this regulation was inevitable like apple could have done anything in the world to try to appease the EU but this would have still come or was this whole thing avoidable could Apple have made a decision beforehand to prevent all of these antitrust claims coming down from all these get any antitrust claims for years and years nobody seemed to notice it was only as things got bigger and Rivals got bigger and I don't believe that this stuff is coming from uh consumers I believe it's coming from rival companies so even though the EU is saying it's doing it on behalf of the consumers and I think that's more honorable and true than say Spotify making that claim I still I don't right I don't see all the benefits for consumers that are being promised I mean you think this is all good news and I'm interested in that how will how would all of this help me or you if we were within the EU well I think first of all I want to point out I suppose to answer my own question Spotify um I believe is the entire reason the dma exists uh at Le at the very least as it exists today I I'm sure that we'd have eventually arrived at some sort of Regulation but Spotify was definitely the force uh they basically lived uh in the uh by the Halls yelling from a megaphone for about for nearly a decade asking for some kind of Regulation against Apple because you know the biggest music maker in the world that can't make a profit was really mad that Apple was asking for money that they weren't paying them anyway so all all very fun uh why is this good I think it it's a mixed bag for sure it's e it's it's good in the fact that I'm glad that there are things forcing Apple to open up its ecosystem and think of ways to do it safely because I think it's necessary that this these Technologies be accessible and something like emulators being allowed in the App Store globally would never have happened without this so there is a net benefit to this kind of regulatory pressure but I think there's also a problem because the people regulating these things don't understand the technology they're trying to regulate so while we are seeing some good there is also going to be a potential backfire as basically if the only thing that ever happened was the EU put out the dma and that was the end of regulation and apple complied with it and we got what we got out of it it would probably be a net positive but because the dma exists other countries namely the United States are seeing that and saying we need some of that too but they're going to probably overstep over regulate and ask for more than the EU got and then it's going to become a competition to see who can get apple to bend over more until finally we just I don't know end up in a place where Apple has to completely break IOS which I don't I don't think that's going to happen Apple's pretty smart in how it's implementing these things so far they haven't had to got out of their way to destroy encryption or privacy but it's it's a double-edged sword for sure you said I keep forgetting about emulators CU for whatever reason I'm not a gamer and you are you've just been away for a time and I I picture you somewhere with your um Apple Vision Pro being Borrowed by all your friends who want to have a look at it and you're left there with just your iPhone have you been playing it's Delta isn't it have you been using Delta emulator on your iPhone and what do you think now it's actually out there and being used it's pretty amazing honestly I I'm waiting for other emulators they still haven't arrived but uh there are some promises like Providence could be coming soon and that'll bring uh Playstation uh emulation there's been some Whispers from other developers but I think those have all fallen out we're not going to see dolphin which is a GameCube emulator because uh Justin Time compilation isn't allowed even with emulation uh at least not yet and the chips there there is a way past it technically speaking eventually the a series chip in the iPhone or the M series chip in the iPad could theoretically have a 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just have an executable file that you stick into Delta and it runs that's that's how emulators work uh this is a gray area I don't know how much I my memory is I haven't been on the show in two weeks so now I don't remember anything we've ever talked about in the entire history of the show uh but I can't remember how much we dove into em Ed before we even had a chance actually I believe I missed out the Delta must have come out the day I went on vacation I think so and then I have we talked about the gray areas and the leg legality of ROMs and things um well I can cover yeah one other cuz I I did listen to those shows and they were very good I can cover something that wasn't really discussed just for the audience's benefit please yeah I understand there there yeah there are arguments out there about emulation and and ROMs uh of around piracy and it's very much a gray area like you just said I I believe that the law allows you to say if you own the physical object so if you go somewhere this this law is a million years old do do you know the basis of the law in the United States for this particular only I believe it's the same as with DVDs and Blu-rays there's an argument that if you own it you can use it but I wouldn't like to test it in court well this was tested in court but very specifically VHS recordings this is how old this law is and and it's it it it hasn't been tried since I don't believe they just they've left it alone uh so people so company that I don't know some the people who made cheers wanted to sue someone for owning copies of Cheers on VHS because they set their VHS to record cheers every day at 7:30 when it came on or whatever um so they could come home from work and watch it right because they would miss it otherwise the court upheld that because the broadcast was paid for or free and open over the air what what have you and sent to the television it was now accessible by the user to do whatever they want with it including record it and that that goes to all of these other things where if it if a video is played on your screen at home uh technically you can record it unless it has uh encryption uh which means like if you have a Blu-ray disc it's encrypted you can't record that without it being technically illegal to make a copy so there is very specific arguments here but that's why classic emulators and ROMs are part of this because they're not encrypted uh Nintendo 64 cartridges all the way up to uh even Dreamcast and I I would I want to say PlayStation 2 Gamecube that whole generation and be and previous to that are all pretty much accessible just by plugging them into a computer because that of how the technology was formatted so as long as you own the physical copy technically owning a digital version of it is totally legal now how you get that digital version and all of that hasn't been tried in court so for me to say I own Pokemon Yellow so I'm allowed to go to a website and download Pokemon Yellow technically speaking that hasn't been tried in court someone might be able to argue that's piracy uh but what is 100% totally legal allowed is I can take my Pokemon Yellow hook it up to a little dongle and take the ROM off of it totally totally allow that's that's where things get a little fishy and I'm not going to sit here here and say go pirate games or anything I'm just going to say these games are obtainable in real life go to a go to a your local flea markets or retro game stores they're all there some of them are reasonably priced some of them are hundreds of dollars because they're collector's items but the emulator side of things totally completely legal uh someone was making fun of on a different podcast of what if Apple tried to show Delta at a event because it's the number one app but all they could show is an empty app because they couldn't show at running Mario but I I that's that's my last point is well I have two more points real real very quickly I know I'm going long um one number one is these old consoles you can still develop for them funny enough uh and there are a lot of free or cheap uh Indie what you can call indie games online of ROMs made for Game Boy that aren't you know just rips of Pokémon people added things to this these are actual totally original games that are available online so if you want to get a Nintendo 64 game emulator and play a game that never existed and physically that is possible like and people who are interested in developing a Game Boy Color game can do it now and have a place to play it and put it like that's interesting to me but then that's my final point is historical data uh go I can't get into it here but go and look into the um video game archive video game history they're a nonprofit in the United States and they are working very hard to basically catalog and archive all video games and it's something like 60% of video games are not playable before a certain point and and and uh we we've lost so much information imagine if just a chunk of the Library of Congress and this was the only copy we had just fell into the sea never to be seen again right we just lost all of these books and media and movies this video games is are uniquely positioned as the only thing in the world ever to exist in humanity that requires a specific television a specific connector and a specific unit to go and view that media and so much of it has been lost because we've drug our heels on actually preserving it so emulators are also about preservation that that's that's you say this is the only time it's happened but we'll never know what we lost at the Alexandria library and the fire I mean there could have been a version of video no you're just looking at me now listen I'm I'm really glad you're back I love this kind of stuff but the fact that you were away I'm terribly intrigued whether you were bothered by something that did affect me are you even aware that there was uh like an Apple ID security problem for at least a lot of uh users did you hit this at all I've heard people talk about it uh but no this did not affect me at all and what's surprising me even more is Apple has said nothing about it well it just I'm if you haven't had it and I'm glad but just so you know it it sounds trivial all that happens is I picked up my iPhone and it said your icard account been locked for security reasons you must reset your password so you reset your password fine but it also it wipes out all your specific passwords so um I've had to redo passwords for Fantastical on both of my Macs my iPad and my iPhone separately getting the more different ones and for some reason and who knows why even trying to log in to change those I've been getting uh we can't do this your password enter your password again and then when you do that it takes you back to the start I know for me a problem is that I have several Apple IDs so part of it was which ID was tied to which app and which app specific password and it drove me spare partly because it happened it happened to me first I noticed it uh while I was at home so I was actually able to fix our Apple TV set for my wife but then when I was away and I wanted to remote control something into my Mac I couldn't do it because I couldn't get through the ID stuff drove me spare for a bit and I believe right now it's all sorted out but I keep finding yet another problem that this ID thing has happened and I would like apple to explain there's so many things attached to this password that once you change it there there just so many tiny things break so two things need to happen one apple what what happened did someone try to like break in did Siri ai go Rogue and start deleting things or uh what happened but two why is everything tied to the change of a password that feels a little broken I'm glad nothing was lost it just it's highly inconvenient imagine if you're in a situation where you have to change your password then you have to go down a checklist of things that you need to go reenable or reset because your password changed um people were talking about how this affected them and maybe they were away from home and they got this message to change their uh password but then they got the 1 hour delay because of uh stolen device protection uh all all kinds of weird problems happening here and again Apple just never really put out a reason of course this is probably just some stupid server side issue something got unplugged uh because someone wanted to uh make a panini and they plugged in their uh port Grill and unplug the server Farm running Apple ID to do it it happens all the time so it's hard to say friend of babyc yes they probably should fire a friend of BBC sent me a photograph once of a couple of racks of servers and a single cable running between them and on the cable was a piece of paper saying this is the BBC World Service all of it go through that cable yes so I can well see that happen but actually I realized do you know I must have switched on that um extra security layer the 1 hour delay thing because that's the one thing I wasn't affected by and now I'm torn because I intended to switch it on now do I do yeah I probably will yes definitely probably it's it's actually quite fine as a security thing I have this feature enabled with the time delay and everything and I keep forgetting that I should go and just change my past code back to being six digits uh because I still have a very long alpha numeric code that I have to put in and it's fine but it's just a headache if I ever need to put it in I don't think I need that now given this this protection exists because even if someone has my passcode they can't do anything unless they're at home or or uh they even the waiting an hour doesn't work because they don't have my Biometrics so it makes me feel a lot more secure so that that's a reminder to me to change my passcode back to a six I'm still not going to sa to down dark alleys in London late at night flashing around ,000 iPhone but stolen device protection well I don't know why that won't stick in my head but yes we we know what it is yeah it's it's such a that phrase just escapes me and you want to know another phrase that escapes me it'll come up a little bit later yes repair State I've written about repair State four times in the last two days and I it just I keep trying to write safety something I don't know my brain keeps thinking sa it's called Safety Dance I don't know it's repair State anyway just put point out moment ago you put the Cheers theme into my head and now Safety Dance Men Without Hats I'm having an 80s Revival as we be but I tell you you can't keep me waiting repair State I know this is a new thing that's supposed to stop problems when you you know the you're giving your phone in for repairs something happens but what is it it's it's actually exactly that okay that's the whole story it's one sentence it's funny it's funny how it's just come up in a couple of Articles I've written but I I keep having to come up with the phrase but it is very straightforward right now when you need to repair your iPhone and send it in you have to disable fine my uh to do so it's for security reasons and they can't do anything with your phone they can't pair parts properly because the parts would be technically then paired to a device that's registered I I don't know it causes issues so you have to uh turn off find my and then they do the stuff send it back and you log back in and everything's fine well now repair state which is coming in iOS 17.5 which should be out probably next week I'm guessing uh with after the iPad announcements um this feature will basically say you're sending your device in for repair fine why stays on the whole time but it also lets the people repairing your phone do their job without running into the issues very nice except no sorry uh can open worms everywhere you just mentioned something big the iPad next week are you excited by this cuz I know you're Apple Vision Pro man now but you have long been iPad man um are you ready to drop money and buy four different iPads I'll buy all of them just have instead of monitors I just have different iPads around my desk um well right now I have two iPads at my desk so that that's I'm halfway there so the thing about iPad real quick I still use mine all the time because is Vision Pro I I've I've mentioned on the show before so someone's heard this before I'm sure uh I love it it's great wear it on my face work from it all the time cool can't really do a product review with Vision Pro in my head not seeing the world the same way if I'm interacting with a controller a backpack or a car stereo whatever I'm writing about a bicycle I'm not going to ride the my the bike with the Vision Pro on it it has to come off you know as much as I want to live in this thing I I do have to take it off and when I'm working with a device I need to see with my eyes feel with my hands it's better to be in the real world and have a computer in front of me with the screen which is for me the iPad um max over on a bookshelf don't worry but the so the iPad is still very much my work computer and I I'm moving between the two so I haven't abandoned the iPad for the Vision Pro and as The Vision Pro exists today I don't think I could uh not because the Vision Pro is limited just because I I suppose it is limited but only by my eyesight an ability to actually see the world in front of me in a in an appropriate way maybe in the future when it's true AR it'll be different but right now I'm not going to write about a keyboard and describe its design while looking at it through the Vision Pro if you understand my meaning yeah but getting to the uh event coming up May 7th my goodness it it snuck up on us very quickly uh it was basically announced I think when I went on vacation and now I'm back to talk about it very exciting uh this has been coming for a while the supply chain has been showing hints of iPad pros and iPad Airs for ever uh We've expected them earlier in the year this is actually a very unprecedented time for Apple to release anything um May is almost never any honestly probably never anything uh it's usually April or nothing so iPads i expect it's just the pro and the air no mini and mini and St regular iPad that'll be the fall cuz those still need an update and I'm sure they will get them but yes very excited I I will personally be buying the biggest and most powerful iPad and whatever keyboard and whatever pencil they I release I'm very I Ian I I probably won't because I I have an 11in iPad Pro and I like it very much and just economically the amount of use I get out of it I I shouldn't really buy another one but I'm very tempted by 12. 9 in one except what he just said there about the keyboard that I think the magic keyboard on the 12.9 in iPad Pro at the moment is enormous it's like a yacht rather than a keyboard and presumably it' be the same for the iPad Air 12.9 if not exactly the same model so I'm wondering about that but of course the killer thing if it is real if it ever happens is this claim that the presumably the iPad Pro will have an M4 processor in it before anything else up to now now their latest M's have gone into Max and it's actually been originally was a really big deal that they put it into the iPad at all but now this claim that iPad comes first what do you think the odds are of that this is a weird one normally I would say no uh there's just no no possible way but um Apple's proven us wrong multiple times and how it's doing its M series chips they just released three at the same time a couple months ago which is completely different uh the M3 Max I'm yeah M3 Max sorry not Max Ultra the M3 Ultra still doesn't exist will there be an M3 Ultra will Apple just say no thank you this time and say if you want an Ultra Computer the M2 Ultra is enough and you can go buy a Mac Studio and a Mac Pro with that chip today and maybe they'll 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two days plus this spring fast growing trees has the best deals online up to half off on select plants and other deals and listeners to our show get an additional 15% off their first purchase when using the code Apple Insider a checkout that's an additional 15% at fast growing trees.com using the code Apple inside at checkout offer is valid for a limited time terms and conditions May apply but go to fastgo trees.com code Apple Insider and thank you to Fasto trees for supporting the Apple Insider podcast my interest is focused on the 12.9 in iPad Air because I have this possibly erroneous idea that it'll be cheaper than a 12.9 iPad Pro I mean it will be but maybe not by much I'm thinking Apple has to differentiate the iPad Pro from its predecessors and from the air and you're thinking so that the OLED screen will do it the keyboard is there anything else they can do to make it a must buy well promotion still is a thing uh that's very much useful I think it's it's nice especially on that larger display promotion is visible on the iPhone um if you hold two phones side by side but it's incredibly obvious once you move to that larger display um how how much work promotion is doing for scrolling and uh it's video games can access it uh I could imagine maybe Delta emulator making a 120 frames per second game boy game which would be really funny but I think that it's more than just the display so OLED is a part of it but it's it's it's a part of a whole you get the Thunderbolt port in the iPad Pro uh so I have a full-on thunderbolt interface plugged into my iPad Pro every day uh on the M1 iPad Pro the iPad Air is not going to have that it's going to be uh USB 3 just the same as it was it's also so the better display so you're getting promotion OLED Thunderbolt uh possibly a better camera system on the back that's not totally important for most people but imagine too if you're a videographer or some maybe a YouTuber and you have and you need a alternate camera a camera with depth sensing information with the lar scanner and a high megapixel count capable of maybe even recording spatial video if they do that in the iPad Pro all of these things possible with a extra large screen to look at it all all really fun could you imagine that just I I don't know why this just hit me this is totally off topic but thinking of recording spatial video on an iPad Pro could you imagine if Apple pulled some wild thing out of a hat and said this is also a 3D display based based on the the reason why I say that is because if anyone who here listening owned a 3DS a Nintendo 3DS it had a 3D display that you didn't need glasses for it was basically a lenticular display uh kind of like the Vision Pro that had a slider and it kind of pulled the background away from the foreground and it it worked it was interesting but anyway I don't I don't know why that hit me they're never going to do that but it's just kind of funny to me that maybe the iPad would one day have a 3D display to play some videos but what what what what makes you think iPad Air over iPad Pro why cuz you're getting the I don't I don't think you're going to get the same chip this is probably where the M4 uh generation coming from if the M4 goes iPad Pro what if the iPad Air gets M3 what if there always a generation behind it's likely to be that I just I my problem is that I missed the 12.9 inness of it and when I bought the 11 just uh I couldn't really justify the price of the 12.9 in then and since then I bought a 14in MacBook Pro and I'm finding my use of my iPad it's dramatically less than it was so therefore mentally I just the justification for spending a lot more money on something that I won't use enough that bothers me uh that puts me off an iPad Pro so the iPad Air being a larger screen you could tick a few boxes there but on the other hand it's just I I used to like the fact that I had the original iPad Pro the 12.9 H1 and I had an iPad Air and it's amazing how many events things I would do where I would need or benefit from having both of them there I'd quite like to go back to that but yeah I I I think the best combination anyone could have is a 12.9 in iPad Pro and an iPad Mini It's the Best of Both Worlds um I still would honestly personally only own one iPad if it was an uh 7in iPad Mini with Pro motion OLED display and a thunderbolt Port just saying Apple if you want to make that with an M4 processor just make an iPad Pro Mini that would be the I would throw everything else away that would be the one computer I would use and just plug it into a giant display when I need it anyway the iPad Pro I I I I do want to say this magic keyboard intrigues me the most I wonder is it going to have the uh what is it called kental lever it is it going to have the floating iPad assumed it would but uh or is it going to be more like a bridge keyboard where the iPad just sits in there uh because rumors suggest that this is an aluminum enclosure with plastic key caps kind of like a Macbook and with a even larger glass trackpad uh than the current iPad magic keyboard this thing is going to be a massive aluminum keyboard and the iPad being thinner I wonder too if it's going to be exclusive to the iPad Pro or if the iPad air will be able to use it or if that thinness breaks the compatibility uh the weight of this keyboard too the iPad Pro with magic keyboard weighs more than a MacBook Air right now and making it aluminum and I I'm not sure someone did make a point uh I'll go ahead and say Federico vtii I believe on the connected podcast made a point that I had not thought of before what if Apple this would be called the mag keyboard what if Apple comes out with a singular modular keyboard that could connect to all Apple devices the way airpods do and they automatically switch when you need it how amazing would that be and this would be like the first product in that lineup That would be able to do that you know so for me A Vision Pro user with an iPad with a modular Apple keyboard that connects to everything yeah these are all rumors I'm ex Tuesday cannot come fast enough is all I'm saying my money my money is ready just Apple go I'm not drawn by that keyboard idea because I mean I've even got a few of them in the office there Logitech Bluetooth keyboards with three buttons to connect to different devices for it I feel like we've already had that and you know Apple would do it in a smoother way somehow but it was plenty smooth enough an entire button you got to press a button I know it's like the olden days going to school over cobblestones Barefoot pressing buttons yes Back to the Future you mean I have to use my hands this is a baby store you know you're saying there about plugging iPad Mini into larger screen I've realized what I would really like is an iPhone that runs Mac OS when you plug it into a larger monitor to be able to take your entire Computing world with you in your pocket come on Apple that's what we want give me that that that's the 2012 dream that will never die I like the idea of decks Samsung does this with Android and uh well Android desktop if you want to call it that it's fine it works I think Apple could do it better but I wonder if they'll ever go that far they they claimed that they were never going to merge iPad OS and Mac OS well great they're not going to they'll just be two distinct operating systems running on one device I yeah I don't know if they'll go that route it would be interesting it's just it's it's hard to say anymore but this is these these are very interesting products to me I'm I'm happy Apple's back to the iPad uh they took a little break and my wallet needed it so thank you Apple but uh let's let's let's go crazy next week is going to be an interesting show we'll be back to break down everything Apple announced at that event and we'll be discussing exactly how much money we uh which colors we went for you know the really key questions there not I'm not knocking that actually but Che that's thought about the break I said to you that since my iPad Pro I bought the 14in MacBook Pro and that's getting on for that can't be three years old now but yeah I mean I know there's been another iPad since I got mine the M2 version but still that feels like a very long time for me to have an iPad I should update that's what I should do isn't it I should yeah work with me on this yes okay I mean of course uh imagine Watching Ted lasso on an Ola display okay that you can right so undone there thanks for that all right I was looking forward to Tuesday all gone now okay uh but I am aware all right you like Ted lasso and I believe there is some Ted lasso news break it to me what's happening what's going so you have seen it see that's a quote from the from the show I believe is they say lot tell the number of quotes I have from TV and drama Angelo will be watching a film in the middle of the night and suddenly there'll be a line that she thinks of as mine and I'll hear this laugh from downstairs for it but um it's unlikely to be Ted lasso so uh okay but yes so I'm wrong there's no tetas on use I can safely move on no yeah well there's the tin no that it's it's coming out on Blu-ray I fine if you really want to own a physical copy of something go nuts I don't remember the last time I oh I'm sorry I do remember the last time I bought a Blu-ray I this is the nerdiest thing ever I bought the 4K Ultra whatever Blu-ray version of Final Fantasy 7 Avent children because I love that series anyway uh that's a thing that exists otherwise no I don't think I've bought a physical piece of media since about 2013 I think I might be able to beat you here cuz I would say generally the same no physical media for a long time but actually on my desk right beside me now is DVD copy of death at Broadcasting House a film from about the 1930s um set in BH there so I recognize bits of the building from where I used to work and it's this oldie worldy very heightened um well I was going to say murder mystery the book it's based done it is serious and murdering broadcasting house yes this is a bit lighter and kind of things but I could not get it in any other way so I bought a disc and it then took me 3 weeks to find my DVD player and I've finally done it and left this actually I've left the desk on my desk with no idea what to do with it now but I enjoyed that film so if we have five minutes before we conclude our show I do want to do a very quick run through some of the leaks that we oh yeah please cuz I've realized actually when you mentioned the code things about M for I'd missed that so I think hang on you were away and you're more on top of things than I am what does that say about me yeah give me leaks what are we waiting for what's happening well I listen to way too many podcasts if that helps but there are um a number of leaks uh that Apple Insider has been sharing exclusively from people familiar with things going on over on uh the fruit side of things and it's really exciting to see maybe what might be coming at WWDC so if you've been paying attention to Apple Insider please go give these articles a look maybe you've missed them but we've talked about already uh what new features might be coming to Apple notes calculator Safari and calendar SL reminders so all of these are getting some pretty significant updates uh we we can dive into whatever you'd like what what jumps out to as the biggest one to you Apple notes calculator calendar reminders what leaps out to me is that there's no mention of mail which is where I would like to see some advance but Safari out of that list Safari that that is my browser of choice I use others because I have to but I like Safari what can you do so apart from speeding up the translation thing translation on Safari fantastic but having to uh click on wait for the right button to appear in the to bar and click on it at just the right time and then wait for it I'd rather you know just a keyboard shortcut to I did set up a stream deck button to do it but what it did was push the button for me um I would like an advance there but otherwise Safari what more could you add to it it looks like we're getting a few new features so fir first off Apple might be sherlocking some content blockers uh basically content blocking it otherwise known as ad blocking uh Apple I think likes the term cont content because it sounds less um offensive to people who write Publications that need ads to make money but the content blocking side of things that there are a lot of things that you don't want to see maybe on a website and Apple has given us the ability that this exist in third party apps this is fully a Sherlock but now you'll be able to click a button in Safari and then click an element on a website you don't want to see and it will make it disappear it's it's gone it's called the web eraser uh you will be able to erase content uh so if you see this um let's say Banner ad or a thing saying buy me please or what have you app uh you can click on it basically behind the scenes there is H lines of HTML code that basically say this ad block goes here and apple will pull out that code and say ad block hide this ad block it's gone and it will remember that you said that so as long as that appears on that web page every time you visit that web page it will be gone it is a built-in version of content blocking a little more manual but uh if you use content blockers um ad block plus or anything like that on Safari no you may have noticed that it doesn't get everything so Apple has given us the ability to pick and choose what pieces I don't tend to knock out ads because I work on websites and know they're needed and sometimes they're actually useful but there was one website recently I was trying to I just needed to look up a fact on on it and I I could I was practically blinded by the ads that were popping up over the stuff I was trying to read so I for the first time in ages I turned on safar's read of viw and for the first time ever it it made no difference on this site and I cannot work out why so yeah the ability I mean it would have taken me eight clicks or something to get rid of things but it would have been worth it so all right noted my my method of content blocking is mostly centered around aggressive um anti-consumer kind of uh popups and things web ads don't really bother me that much uh going to a website and seeing an ad doesn't offend me or anything they got to make money uh but these things that follow you around like okay for example I have a list of book bookmark lists that's just for shopping and sometimes I'll go through and click on each website to see if there's any updates to products that I want to buy every single one has a login uh so therefore when you go to that website and you're not logged in and I I don't have logins for these cuz I don't care uh would you like to join our newsletter would you like this coupon code I get six or seven popup I can't see the content on the web page for the number of pop-ups I get asking me to please your God buy something uh subscribe give us your email address so we can make money selling that on the side uh please please please beg beg beg just make that go away that that that's my biggest use got to get rid of all those annoyances right like just make the web browsable again that's that's kind of my view of content blocking I don't yeah I I want people to make money I I mean we we use ads on our website of course so it's one of those things where I think Apple knows this that is people get more desperate for money they're getting more aggressive so there needs to be tools to fight these things but it it's as I've said before it's a double-edged sword but there are two more features coming to Safari can you make a guess um not ad blockers not translation uh it's going to be something to do with AI I don't know what but okay um does it uh find the websites you want to look at and then look at them for you so you don't have to no kind of we don't actually know very much about this system so there's uh what we do know is there is a a new uniform I'm sorry a new unified menu uh in the address bar right now if you click the on iPad Mac weirdly enough doesn't have any real menus in the address bar you have to go to the menu bar I know it's just I have to move my wrist a lot to get to that menu bar it's so far away but on iPad OS the superior operating system you can click in the address bar on the AA button on another Apple operating system yes you can click on the AA tap on the AA rather yeah uh and you and and you uh oh yeah it has mous support and you can see there's a menu drop down uh there that gives you a lot of options for mostly for managing content blockers uh you privacy settings this menu's getting an upgrade and uh iOS iPad OS Mac OS uh as of June they're all getting it including the Mac so the Mac is going to have a very ipad-like menu uh adopting their Superior methods so you can see all no I'm joke I kid so you can see all these things in one place but one of the buttons in this new menu that's unifying uh website controls ad control all this stuff one of the new items is Safari intelligence or uh browsing intelligence what it seems to do is give you access to website summaries so as you say go to a website with a bunch of words maybe it'll give you what the topic is and break down paragraphs maybe quick links to items in the page we don't really know how it works yet but it seems to be that type of feature kind of like the arc browser but um I'm sure Apple will have an interesting way of implementing it it seems to run alongside your browsing session rather than creating a separate browsing session which is what Arc does what Arc does is take all the content on a web page and creates an entirely new web page with all the content summarized for you and it's taking you off of the website removing you from the ADP space it's very bad for anyone who on the internet like Arc we've talked about it before wants to break how the internet works but I think Apple's will be more of a in browser system of uh you're on a web page with this article and it and it wants to tell you about this information whatever or maybe it'll detect scams better whatnot but it's a toggle it's off by default the user has to turn it on but it's called browsing intelligence it's going to have something to do with AI none of that's turned on yet no one can really tell anyone what it's doing so we'll find out that's that sounds fun and there's a third tinier thing that's not working yet but there's it's called visual search I believe it's kind of an extension of where you take a photo with your phone on in photos app it shows up uh it's a cat it tells you it's a cat right and it tells you what species or a flower it tells you what flower that's going system wide and that includes Safari and I believe it'll let you search images from web pages and and give you more information on them but that is not ready yet it's some sort of visual search AI aspect but that may not come until much later in the iOS 18 release cycle perhaps 2025 or maybe even iOS 19 but it seems to be in testing but we don't know that much about it either but AI stuff is coming to Safari it actually sounds useful isn't I actually I actually said that I was glad you were back and then you went off on your iPad versus MAC things so fine um uh how about this um let's say on that bomshell I'm going to go off to Blockbuster or wherever it is that you get physical media and queue up to by Ted lasso and while I'm there and also findable on William at upser.com where can people find you Wes well I'm increasingly active on midon I've actually considered what can I do to erase my Twitter without deleting it but that's a whole different story you can still message me there I'll I'll respond but uh Mason's where I am uh go give me a follow there I've recently surpassed my Twitter follower account on madon so that's that's exciting uh happy about that but um no if you want to uh send me an email comment on anything about the show uh you can email me directly it's findable at the top of any article I've written but yeah reach out I'll be uh living in my vision Pro and playing a lot of Fallout 4 well I should also put that of course you can catch where on uh our other podcast homekit Insider and if you're an apple Insider plus subscriber you can find him in about oh 30 seconds time talking about I mean I'd love this I'm so looking forward to this and calling it just the history of the iPad that's nothing you just wait till you hear that if you're up inside a plus subscriber but in the meantime thank you very much for listening thanks too to our sponsors back Blaze and fast going trees we'll be back next week\n"