The MSI UniFi X: A CPU with Unusual Performance and Limitations

Things like let's turn off all of our peers but one and turn on all of the active cores disabling Ecorse doesn't do anything for you at least not not right now not really um and that is what it is like in the past that might have made a difference on 14 but Arrow Lake it doesn't it actually hurts things so don't do that this processor also supports running your AVX ratios a little less than everything else because AVX AVX still is a power virus on Intel's design and I still will clock the processor slower um that's fine perfectly reasonable here's where you enable the extreme memory profile so I'm going to set that to enabled it is going to run at Gear 2 we're going to start at 8200 I will tell you that one of The Uncanny valleys of all of the ratios lining up is around 7200 but 88,200 is achievable with this kit because I've already experimented with it MSI also has their memory Tri it which is really useful dr5 7200 cl34 you can load that and hey maybe the ratio is there will make sense and your CPU will run better with that than you know uh 8200 with uh worse timings vnn a voltage it is 0.771 volts by default I've experimented with up to one volt this is also covered in Scatter benchers uh documentation I believe and setting it to more than 77 volts like 85 or 0.95 volts mean that you're able to move that 2.1 GHz ring frequency up to more like 3.5 toward 4.0 that does make some Benchmark numbers go up but generally doesn't dramatically improve gaming performance interestingly so looking at 864 I mean it's it's hard not to get excited for these results I mean look at this is 115 gbt per second and a two dim configuration platform why is the gaming performance not face melting 87.5 nond latency is really it's not dramatically different than 65 NS we were getting out of the box on 14900 K but the memory bandwidth is something else you can see we're going through literally all of the combinations to try to get memory latency a little lower down to 83 NS with 3100 ngu and 4100 for your ring frequency which is the one volt that I was telling you about like the vnn uh voltage Boost from 0.77 so what don't I like about the UniFi X well keep in mind it's only two dim slots so memory capacity theoretically someday you can do 128 gigs on this platform but 96 gigs is possible right now that 8 Pin power input at the bottom edge of the motherboard yeah that guy knows what I'm talking about that's not great because uh it's going to block a second video card but you're not going to run a second video card anyway there's no physical buttons on the motherboard for uh powering it on but you can set the smart button on the back to do that or set the smart smart button on the back to take you directly to bios or use that and the overclock button and clever and creative ways to boost things here so there we go that's a quick look at the MSI UniFi X and you probably can achieve similar performance on not a high-end motherboard like the MSI unify X but having the stuff in there if you like tweaking things you can definitely do that I was surprised that I was able to move it over 300 FPS and Shadow the Tomb Raider and see similar uplifts in a lot of games but not every game the performance of this CPU is definitely odd compared to and really probably not even really comparable I would say to Prior genen Intel CPUs because it's fundamentally put together a different way this is kind of The New Normal now the other unspoken part of this is if you aren't looking to play at 300 FPS at 1080p a lot of this doesn't really matter too much you can have a perfectly reasonable gameplay experience at 1440p and 4K you're much more GPU Limited in those scenarios and this CPU can definitely Feed the Beast it's multi-core performance is quite good it's better than the 14900 k for rendering blender etc etc if you pick up the I5 there's not as many cores to go multi-core but the best core on these CPUs is really probably the ecores not the PES the ecores are absolutely monstrous they really are interesting.

The Performance of the MSI UniFi X

One thing that stands out about this CPU is its performance in games like Shadow the Tomb Raider. I was able to move it over 300 FPS, which is a pretty significant boost for someone who's used to running these games at lower frame rates. However, not every game sees this same level of improvement. There are a few factors that contribute to this, including the specific GPU and RAM configuration being used, as well as the CPU's clock speed. In general, though, it seems like the MSI UniFi X is capable of delivering high-performance gaming experiences for those who are willing to put in the effort to optimize their system.

The Limitations of the MSI UniFi X

Despite its impressive performance, there are a few limitations to be aware of when using this CPU. For one thing, it only has two DIMM slots, which means that users will need to carefully plan out their RAM configuration if they want to take full advantage of the CPU's capabilities. Additionally, some features that were available on older Intel CPUs, such as overclocking and turbo boost, are not available here.

Overall, the MSI UniFi X is a powerful and capable CPU that offers a unique set of advantages for gamers and content creators who are willing to invest time in optimizing their system. While it has its limitations, those who are interested in pushing the boundaries of what's possible with this CPU should definitely consider giving it a try.

The Unusual Architecture of the MSI UniFi X

One of the most fascinating things about this CPU is its architecture. Unlike many other modern CPUs, which tend to have symmetrical architectures that allow for easy overclocking and optimization, the MSI UniFi X has an asymmetrical design that makes it more difficult to work with.

This can make it harder to find good benchmarking results for this CPU, as well as making it more challenging for users who are trying to optimize their system. However, it also means that the CPU has a unique set of strengths and weaknesses that will appeal to certain types of users.

For example, the asymmetrical design allows for a higher clock speed on one core than on others, which can make it better suited for tasks like video encoding and other compute-intensive applications.

The Value of the MSI UniFi X

Despite its limitations, the MSI UniFi X is still a valuable CPU for those who are looking to upgrade their system. With its powerful performance and unique architecture, it offers a compelling alternative to more traditional CPUs that might be better suited to specific tasks or use cases.

Overall, the MSI UniFi X is a CPU that's worth considering for anyone who's looking to take their computing experience to the next level. Whether you're a gamer, content creator, or simply someone who wants to push the boundaries of what's possible with your system, this CPU has something to offer.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enthe MSI UniFi X and 8200 cuu dims from gkill this is the TR Z5 CK these are CU dims turns out the secret to unlocking the AOL Lake performance is cu dims and it can make it quite a bit faster let's take a look at CU dims and the UniFi X which the UniFi X is two dims one dim per Channel this is the fastest ddr5 option motherboard and well I mean if you know the UniFi you know msi's UniFi X line is all about overclocking and all that kind of stuff and you know that uh I don't typically know life overclocking but I have written a little guide on the things that I found that worked well for me and it did move shadow of the Tomb Raider performance from 270 is fps to over 300 FPS and you can also improve the memory latency pretty reasonably actually to be clear you can make the memory latency go from over 100 NS to 60 but in order to get the memory latency below like 75ish you have to disable things that make the cores actually go fast so you could have fast memory but not fast we'll get into it let's take a look so I put this system together in the studio and the thing that I like best about our MSI 360 mm cooler is that it comes pre-assembled I can take it out of the box and mount it we will be overclocking we will be coloring outside the lines but it turns out Arrow lake has extra layers of safety to try to prevent you from damaging it that might be holding the performance back somewhat and so because of that I don't know that I'm encouraging you to make these changes I think that if you make some of these tweaks and yes it does increase performance but it could increase the chances that we have a situation where your CPU um would uh degrade over over time now to be clear any degradation that it does have is going to be completely 100% totally different than the degradation experienced by the 13 and 1400k if for no other reason than the components of these CPUs the arrow Lake CPUs were manufactured at tsmc not Intel it's a fundamentally different process different node different literally everything also want to say that the scatter bencher has a nice write up that is useful you can read it and understand the parameters some of the variables you can change some of them you can't but the things that go against conventional wisdom when you're working on an Intel build is generally Intel builds don't really care as much about the memory speed I mean it cares a little bit but it doesn't make dramatic performance differences that is not really true anymore like on AOL Lake the memory subsystem matters a lot for overall performance because of this chiplet sorry tile because of this tile design that also means there are certain frequency sweet spots and so you can find the sweet spots here's the other thing that defies conventional wisdom that 5.7 5.8 GHz Max boost P you forget about it in most of the scenario like 90% of the scenarios that I tested you were better off having your peores run at like 5.5 maybe 5.6 but nowhere near 5.7 or 5.8 because it seems to be the case when you run your peores pretty hot it chews up the power budget for everything else so yes you can get the PE cores to run that high but it's going to hurt performance of literally everything else which makes gaming performance worse interestingly overclocking the entire rest of the chip ecores the ring frequency normally is 2.1 GHz it seems pretty easy to get that to go at 3 and 1/2 GHz 3.2 GHz upwards of 4 GHz if you bump the voltage a little bit that's in the writeup but we'll talk about that but first let's take a look at our MSI UniFi X motherboard you got six 10 GB type A ports a flash bios button a clear seos button and a smart button I wish those weren't so close together even though the Coss button is just a little bit different than the uh other buttons H it's really easy to accidentally hit the wrong one and then you've cleared your camos and then what did I do with that overclock below that you got four USB type-c ports but they're all different you got a 10 gig type-c two Thunderbolt 4 that is 40 gbit type- C ports and then USB 10 gbit type- C if you want to think of the Thunderbolt ports as USB 4 you can USB 4 Thunderbolt 4 in an Intel context same thing basically then you've got your PS2 mouse and keyboard which is great for model M users that want to rock the original PS2 connector 5 GB L then you've got two USB type A ports 10 gbit your Wi-Fi 7 connections analog line out microphone in and Optical spdif out this is the Holy Grail of rear IO layouts as far as I'm concerned just because of the number of type A ports and the number of type c ports there are two PCA 5x6 slots one pcie 4.0 x 16 slots those are physical electrically you can run by 8X 8x4 then there's also one PCI 4.0 by one slot there's one m.2 Gen 5 slot and five m.2 Gen 4 slots and then for the front panel we have one type c and dual 10 pin so you could have four more type A ports on the front panel plus also the type C Port which is a great layout everything is toolless so releasing this heat sink which covers four of our m.2 pretty easy you've also got an m.2 at the front edge of the board as well as your Gen 5 m.2 that's that's above now these things on this are smaller so I'm using the crucial t705 it runs hot the flat heat sink for the Gen 5 m.2 maybe on that t705 is uh a little much now in terms of the BIOS let's take a look at the BIOS features so if you're familiar with MSI bioses for the AOL Lake Generation they have revamped the goey in their bios which is neat so you got your flash and you really want to update your flash every every chance you get well if you're building your system for the first time you really want to check your bios and update the BIOS version it is almost certainly different there's probably a newer bios than the BIOS that your motherboard shipped with and even though I've installed the 8200 because I've just installed the memory it came up at 6,400 megga transfers 48 gigs so that's dual 24 gig dim these are you know just sort of the things you can check you can also see the core frequency and voltage one really awesome feature of this bios is if you didn't get your CPU Cooler on correctly the BIOS will pop up and say hey the CPU is running a little warm it's unusual which is awesome get easy mode and advanced mode of course we're going to go to advanced mode you got full control over the different gens of pcie if you're running Samsung m.2 you may want to check out native aspm and disable it and pcie aspm and you can configure which of your pcie Express root ports this doesn't necessarily map to a physical slot or a particular m.2 it's actually easier to use Linux to see which root Port maps to Which m.2 slot I might do that later in the Forum or whatever if we have a lot of a lot of inquiries or it's it's really popular a lot of people pick up this motherboard but aspm is is kind of power management it saves power and it's good because more power budget means that you can put that power budget somewhere else but Samsung m.2 are famously bad about going to sleep and waking up they're almost the borderline narcoleptic and that can hurt performance and throw errors in your Windows Event log in the operating system so you can disable that uh so you know it's always controlled and there's also PCI native power management which you can disable which makes it completely invisible to the operating system generally I don't recommend disabling pcie power management unless you're having a problem or unless you have one of the m. tws like Samsung that have that problem got all the standard configuration if you're having the blue screen on the fresh Windows install with the GPU you can come in here and disable the igd multim monitor but there is a bios update to fix that Thunderbolt configuration if you're having problems with with uh resize bar or you've got peripherals that use a lot of bar space like a an RDMA network card you may end up having to disable PCI or esb4 because of resource allocation just be aware of that there's some screenshots on the Forum I would refer you there cuz you're going to you know stopping and rewinding and going through a bunch of videos really is super annoying and probably I will have learned stuff from the time that I did this video and so that thread on the Forum being updated is important but MSI performance preset Intel default settings MSI performance settings basically it's like 347 amps to 400 amps this is a minor bump this should be safe I didn't tell you that officially you know overclocking you're taking your hands into your own life but this should be reasonable especially if you've got good Cooling and then You' got some more presets and these presets do have like you just toggle it on and then oh look at that gaming performance is better the most important thing you can do is turn on XMP which we haven't done yet and we'll talk about it in a second but the next thing is when you're messing with all of this uh Advanced CPU configuration you can configure things like let's turn off all of our peores but one and turn on all of the active ecores disabling Ecorse doesn't do anything for you at least not not right now not really um and that is what it is like in the past that might have made a difference on 14 but Arrow Lake it doesn't it actually hurts things so don't do that this processor also supports running your AVX ratios a little less than everything else because AVX AVX still is a power virus on Intel's design and I still will clock the processor slower um that's fine perfectly reasonable here's where you enable the extreme memory profile so I'm going to set that to enabled it is going to run at Gear 2 we're going to start at 8200 I will tell you that one of The Uncanny valleys of all of the ratios lining up is around 7200 but 88,200 is achievable with this kit because I've already experiment with it MSI also has their memory Tri it which is really useful dr5 7200 cl34 you can load that and hey maybe the ratio is there will make sense and your CPU will run better with that than you know uh 8200 with uh worse timings vnn a voltage it is 0.771 volts by default I've experimented with up to one volt this is also covered in Scatter benchers uh documentation I believe and setting it to more than 77 volts like 85 or 0.95 volts mean that you're able to move that 2.1 GHz ring frequency up to more like 3.5 toward 4.0 that does make some Benchmark numbers go up but generally doesn't dramatically improve gaming performance interestingly so looking at 864 I mean it's it's hard not to get excited for these results I mean look at this is 115 gbt per second and a two dim configuration platform why is the gaming performance not face melting 87.5 nond latency is really it's not dramatically different than 65 NS we were getting out of the box on 14900 K but the memory bandwidth is something else you can see we're going through literally all of the combinations to try to get memory latency a little lower down to 83 NS with 3100 ngu and 4100 for your ring frequency which is the one volt that I was telling you about like the vnn uh voltage Boost from 0.77 so what don't I like about the UniFi X well keep in mind it's only two dim slots so memory capacity theoretically someday you can do 128 gigs on this platform but 96 gigs is possible right now that 8 Pin power input at the bottom edge of the motherboard yeah that guy knows what I'm talking about that's not great because uh it's going to block a second video card but you're not going to run a second video card anyway there's no physical buttons on the motherboard for uh powering it on but you can set the smart button on the back to do that or set the smart smart button on the back to take you directly to bios or use that and the overclock button and clever and creative ways to boost things here so there we go that's a quick look at the MSI UniFi X and you probably can achieve similar performance on not a high-end motherboard like the MSI unify X but having the stuff in there if you like tweaking things you can definitely do that I was surprised that I was able to move it over 300 FPS and Shadow the Tomb Raider and see similar uplifts in a lot of games but not every game the performance of this CPU is definitely odd compared to and really probably not even really comparable I would say to Prior genen Intel CPUs because it's fundamentally put together a different way this is kind of The New Normal now the other unspoken part of this is if you aren't looking to play at 300 FPS at 1080p a lot of this doesn't really matter too much you can have a perfectly reasonable gameplay experience at 1440p and 4K you're much more GPU Limited in those scenarios and this CPU can definitely Feed the Beast it's multi-core performance is quite good it's better than the 14900 k for rendering blender etc etc if you pick up the I5 there's not as many cores to go multi-core but the best core on these CPUs is really probably the ecores not the PES the ecores are absolutely monstrous they really are interesting interesting look at at the MSI UniFi X interesting look at G skills new 8200 CU dim kit I'm one this level one I'm signing out you can find me in the level one forums if you want to run something on this let me know hit me up in the Forum let's chat all right I'm signing out and I'll see you therethe MSI UniFi X and 8200 cuu dims from gkill this is the TR Z5 CK these are CU dims turns out the secret to unlocking the AOL Lake performance is cu dims and it can make it quite a bit faster let's take a look at CU dims and the UniFi X which the UniFi X is two dims one dim per Channel this is the fastest ddr5 option motherboard and well I mean if you know the UniFi you know msi's UniFi X line is all about overclocking and all that kind of stuff and you know that uh I don't typically know life overclocking but I have written a little guide on the things that I found that worked well for me and it did move shadow of the Tomb Raider performance from 270 is fps to over 300 FPS and you can also improve the memory latency pretty reasonably actually to be clear you can make the memory latency go from over 100 NS to 60 but in order to get the memory latency below like 75ish you have to disable things that make the cores actually go fast so you could have fast memory but not fast we'll get into it let's take a look so I put this system together in the studio and the thing that I like best about our MSI 360 mm cooler is that it comes pre-assembled I can take it out of the box and mount it we will be overclocking we will be coloring outside the lines but it turns out Arrow lake has extra layers of safety to try to prevent you from damaging it that might be holding the performance back somewhat and so because of that I don't know that I'm encouraging you to make these changes I think that if you make some of these tweaks and yes it does increase performance but it could increase the chances that we have a situation where your CPU um would uh degrade over over time now to be clear any degradation that it does have is going to be completely 100% totally different than the degradation experienced by the 13 and 1400k if for no other reason than the components of these CPUs the arrow Lake CPUs were manufactured at tsmc not Intel it's a fundamentally different process different node different literally everything also want to say that the scatter bencher has a nice write up that is useful you can read it and understand the parameters some of the variables you can change some of them you can't but the things that go against conventional wisdom when you're working on an Intel build is generally Intel builds don't really care as much about the memory speed I mean it cares a little bit but it doesn't make dramatic performance differences that is not really true anymore like on AOL Lake the memory subsystem matters a lot for overall performance because of this chiplet sorry tile because of this tile design that also means there are certain frequency sweet spots and so you can find the sweet spots here's the other thing that defies conventional wisdom that 5.7 5.8 GHz Max boost P you forget about it in most of the scenario like 90% of the scenarios that I tested you were better off having your peores run at like 5.5 maybe 5.6 but nowhere near 5.7 or 5.8 because it seems to be the case when you run your peores pretty hot it chews up the power budget for everything else so yes you can get the PE cores to run that high but it's going to hurt performance of literally everything else which makes gaming performance worse interestingly overclocking the entire rest of the chip ecores the ring frequency normally is 2.1 GHz it seems pretty easy to get that to go at 3 and 1/2 GHz 3.2 GHz upwards of 4 GHz if you bump the voltage a little bit that's in the writeup but we'll talk about that but first let's take a look at our MSI UniFi X motherboard you got six 10 GB type A ports a flash bios button a clear seos button and a smart button I wish those weren't so close together even though the Coss button is just a little bit different than the uh other buttons H it's really easy to accidentally hit the wrong one and then you've cleared your camos and then what did I do with that overclock below that you got four USB type-c ports but they're all different you got a 10 gig type-c two Thunderbolt 4 that is 40 gbit type- C ports and then USB 10 gbit type- C if you want to think of the Thunderbolt ports as USB 4 you can USB 4 Thunderbolt 4 in an Intel context same thing basically then you've got your PS2 mouse and keyboard which is great for model M users that want to rock the original PS2 connector 5 GB L then you've got two USB type A ports 10 gbit your Wi-Fi 7 connections analog line out microphone in and Optical spdif out this is the Holy Grail of rear IO layouts as far as I'm concerned just because of the number of type A ports and the number of type c ports there are two PCA 5x6 slots one pcie 4.0 x 16 slots those are physical electrically you can run by 8X 8x4 then there's also one PCI 4.0 by one slot there's one m.2 Gen 5 slot and five m.2 Gen 4 slots and then for the front panel we have one type c and dual 10 pin so you could have four more type A ports on the front panel plus also the type C Port which is a great layout everything is toolless so releasing this heat sink which covers four of our m.2 pretty easy you've also got an m.2 at the front edge of the board as well as your Gen 5 m.2 that's that's above now these things on this are smaller so I'm using the crucial t705 it runs hot the flat heat sink for the Gen 5 m.2 maybe on that t705 is uh a little much now in terms of the BIOS let's take a look at the BIOS features so if you're familiar with MSI bioses for the AOL Lake Generation they have revamped the goey in their bios which is neat so you got your flash and you really want to update your flash every every chance you get well if you're building your system for the first time you really want to check your bios and update the BIOS version it is almost certainly different there's probably a newer bios than the BIOS that your motherboard shipped with and even though I've installed the 8200 because I've just installed the memory it came up at 6,400 megga transfers 48 gigs so that's dual 24 gig dim these are you know just sort of the things you can check you can also see the core frequency and voltage one really awesome feature of this bios is if you didn't get your CPU Cooler on correctly the BIOS will pop up and say hey the CPU is running a little warm it's unusual which is awesome get easy mode and advanced mode of course we're going to go to advanced mode you got full control over the different gens of pcie if you're running Samsung m.2 you may want to check out native aspm and disable it and pcie aspm and you can configure which of your pcie Express root ports this doesn't necessarily map to a physical slot or a particular m.2 it's actually easier to use Linux to see which root Port maps to Which m.2 slot I might do that later in the Forum or whatever if we have a lot of a lot of inquiries or it's it's really popular a lot of people pick up this motherboard but aspm is is kind of power management it saves power and it's good because more power budget means that you can put that power budget somewhere else but Samsung m.2 are famously bad about going to sleep and waking up they're almost the borderline narcoleptic and that can hurt performance and throw errors in your Windows Event log in the operating system so you can disable that uh so you know it's always controlled and there's also PCI native power management which you can disable which makes it completely invisible to the operating system generally I don't recommend disabling pcie power management unless you're having a problem or unless you have one of the m. tws like Samsung that have that problem got all the standard configuration if you're having the blue screen on the fresh Windows install with the GPU you can come in here and disable the igd multim monitor but there is a bios update to fix that Thunderbolt configuration if you're having problems with with uh resize bar or you've got peripherals that use a lot of bar space like a an RDMA network card you may end up having to disable PCI or esb4 because of resource allocation just be aware of that there's some screenshots on the Forum I would refer you there cuz you're going to you know stopping and rewinding and going through a bunch of videos really is super annoying and probably I will have learned stuff from the time that I did this video and so that thread on the Forum being updated is important but MSI performance preset Intel default settings MSI performance settings basically it's like 347 amps to 400 amps this is a minor bump this should be safe I didn't tell you that officially you know overclocking you're taking your hands into your own life but this should be reasonable especially if you've got good Cooling and then You' got some more presets and these presets do have like you just toggle it on and then oh look at that gaming performance is better the most important thing you can do is turn on XMP which we haven't done yet and we'll talk about it in a second but the next thing is when you're messing with all of this uh Advanced CPU configuration you can configure things like let's turn off all of our peores but one and turn on all of the active ecores disabling Ecorse doesn't do anything for you at least not not right now not really um and that is what it is like in the past that might have made a difference on 14 but Arrow Lake it doesn't it actually hurts things so don't do that this processor also supports running your AVX ratios a little less than everything else because AVX AVX still is a power virus on Intel's design and I still will clock the processor slower um that's fine perfectly reasonable here's where you enable the extreme memory profile so I'm going to set that to enabled it is going to run at Gear 2 we're going to start at 8200 I will tell you that one of The Uncanny valleys of all of the ratios lining up is around 7200 but 88,200 is achievable with this kit because I've already experiment with it MSI also has their memory Tri it which is really useful dr5 7200 cl34 you can load that and hey maybe the ratio is there will make sense and your CPU will run better with that than you know uh 8200 with uh worse timings vnn a voltage it is 0.771 volts by default I've experimented with up to one volt this is also covered in Scatter benchers uh documentation I believe and setting it to more than 77 volts like 85 or 0.95 volts mean that you're able to move that 2.1 GHz ring frequency up to more like 3.5 toward 4.0 that does make some Benchmark numbers go up but generally doesn't dramatically improve gaming performance interestingly so looking at 864 I mean it's it's hard not to get excited for these results I mean look at this is 115 gbt per second and a two dim configuration platform why is the gaming performance not face melting 87.5 nond latency is really it's not dramatically different than 65 NS we were getting out of the box on 14900 K but the memory bandwidth is something else you can see we're going through literally all of the combinations to try to get memory latency a little lower down to 83 NS with 3100 ngu and 4100 for your ring frequency which is the one volt that I was telling you about like the vnn uh voltage Boost from 0.77 so what don't I like about the UniFi X well keep in mind it's only two dim slots so memory capacity theoretically someday you can do 128 gigs on this platform but 96 gigs is possible right now that 8 Pin power input at the bottom edge of the motherboard yeah that guy knows what I'm talking about that's not great because uh it's going to block a second video card but you're not going to run a second video card anyway there's no physical buttons on the motherboard for uh powering it on but you can set the smart button on the back to do that or set the smart smart button on the back to take you directly to bios or use that and the overclock button and clever and creative ways to boost things here so there we go that's a quick look at the MSI UniFi X and you probably can achieve similar performance on not a high-end motherboard like the MSI unify X but having the stuff in there if you like tweaking things you can definitely do that I was surprised that I was able to move it over 300 FPS and Shadow the Tomb Raider and see similar uplifts in a lot of games but not every game the performance of this CPU is definitely odd compared to and really probably not even really comparable I would say to Prior genen Intel CPUs because it's fundamentally put together a different way this is kind of The New Normal now the other unspoken part of this is if you aren't looking to play at 300 FPS at 1080p a lot of this doesn't really matter too much you can have a perfectly reasonable gameplay experience at 1440p and 4K you're much more GPU Limited in those scenarios and this CPU can definitely Feed the Beast it's multi-core performance is quite good it's better than the 14900 k for rendering blender etc etc if you pick up the I5 there's not as many cores to go multi-core but the best core on these CPUs is really probably the ecores not the PES the ecores are absolutely monstrous they really are interesting interesting look at at the MSI UniFi X interesting look at G skills new 8200 CU dim kit I'm one this level one I'm signing out you can find me in the level one forums if you want to run something on this let me know hit me up in the Forum let's chat all right I'm signing out and I'll see you there\n"