WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enbefore we get further into this video I just want to say from the bottom of my heart I hate this PC and I don't really know why I hate it as much as I do because it's not because it's a badly performing budget system because don't get me wrong it performs weirdly badly in a lot of cases but I guess I can live with that it's not even because when I bought it it was dirtier than a drip tray at a 24-hour McDonald's because you can clean dirt I guess the reason I hate it so much is because of how inconsistent everything is about it from its performance to the problems that it has because every time you fix a problem you just get blindsided by another problem you know I am that seems completely unrelated it's just it's just terrible so now that you know where I stand on this terrible PC let's get into the video I actually realized that in that overdramatic intro I didn't properly set up the premise of this video no I'm on a bit of a journey to build the ultimate used price to performance gaming system for under two hundred US dollars now in that pursuit I bought this terrible pile of suck which is an old ibuypower system that's powered by an AMD bull loser FX 8120 CPU which is kind of an 8 core CPU and I feel like when it comes to use sub $200 price to performance this could be a really good CPU to start with I find out later that I guess it's not but but yeah well we'll leave that to later in the video now when I first bought this PC I spent so much time just cleaning it that I couldn't get it to run with an rx 570 because I didn't have enough time and there all kinds of weird issues so what we're gonna do in today's video is we're gonna get an rx 570 running in this pile of sock and then see if it turns into the ultimate sub $200 used gaming system and unfortunately we're back with the little piggy system which is very stubbornly holding on to its ideological differences with this rx 570 I'm gonna try and get it working in this video today but I'm not gonna try too hard because quite frankly I don't really care that much now the first suggestion that I got on how to get these two to play nice together was to update the actual BIOS on the motherboard the thing is though I went on to gigabytes website and they've only ever done one BIOS for this motherboard which is the one it launched with so that means one of two things either it's the most stable BIOS version ever or a gigabyte just doesn't care at all about this motherboard but yeah so I reinstalled it and it hasn't seemed to do anything now the second suggestion was that the power supply is actually an issue because it may say that it's a 600 watt power supply but if you look at the actual ratings for the rails and stuff like that it's more like it's cause playing as 600 watt power supply so I'm gonna change that out and see if it actually does anything I'm not convinced that it's going to though because the system does actually boot with the RX 570 in there the biggest issue is actually installing the drivers but let's try it out and see what happens don't you just love molex connectors they're such a sturdy and dependable connector as you can see I didn't really spend any time on cable management because honestly I couldn't really be asked but because it's black cables is supposed to ketchup and mustard it just kind of by default looks better now the actual power supply is supposed to look pathetic in comparison with it's 500 watts but on the 12 volt rail it's got 41 amps available as opposed to 18 amps on the 12 volt rail of the 600 watt power supply so if the power supply was an issue this should definitely rectify it I've run this graphics card with that power supply before so yes it should be fine with that let's let's see what happens now after all of this the way that I got the rx 570 to work in this little greased pan PC was by going into device manager where it actually said that there was an error with the system and it gave me an error code which I then googled now the solution doesn't really make sense to me because it's usually used to get drivers to work with used mining versions of the rx 570 and considering the fact that I bought this graphics got new and I didn't flash any biases onto it over the last six months of me using it it it's weird that it's behaving like a mining card but anyway basically all I needed to do was use this AMD ATI pixel clock patcher thing and it patched the graphics card drivers and while everything worked so now that I've gotten the rx 570 to run on this little drip tray of the system we're expecting much better performance than the GTX 560 that was in there before which is a very old mid-range graphics card the thing is though when I ran the GTA 5 benchmark with the rx 570 in the system which I just want to remind you GTA 5 was the game that ran by far the best on the system when it had the GTX 560 in there I got some really weird results for some reason with the RX 570 in here it performs worse than the system with the GTX 560 in it which doesn't make any sense to me the other games performance were all over the place but we'll get into that a bit later because one of the big issues is clearly that there's a massive CPU bottleneck when you're playing the game you can see here that the GPU utilization kind of jumps from like a hundred percent and then dips to like zero for a bit and then goes back up so there's clearly some CPU bottleneck and going on here and what I actually looked at what core speed we were getting on the FX 80 120 it was sitting at about 3.4 gigahertz which is not very high considering that the boost frequency of the CPU should be about 4 gigahertz so then I went into the terrible motherboards BIOS in the system and try to manually overclock it and see how far we could get now with an extra 200 megahertz with the CPU running at 3.6 gigahertz we were getting a pretty big performance jump with the RX 570 in there mind you it's still running worse than it did with the GTX 560 which just blows my mind that makes no sense but I reran the benchmark several times and it's it's it's just what it's doing right it's one of the things why I hate the system so much is it makes no sense now after that I decided ok let's see how far we can overclock the CPU so that we can get rid of as much of the CPU bottleneck as possible the problem is the highest I could get the CPU to go with this terrible motherboard is three point six eight gigahertz it refuses to boot at higher than that and at three point six eight gigahertz it crashes all the time now the obvious reason why the CPU is running so badly aside from the fact that it is a bulldozer CPU is the fact that the motherboard it comes with is horrendous it was an entry level budget motherboard before the bull loser CPUs even came out it was during the Phenom era this was a terrible motherboard so it just can't handle these CPUs that draw near to 200 watts in a lot of cases it's kind of like running a 39 50 X 16 core CPU in like a $60 a320 motherboard it's just it's just a terrible combination and that's why we can't get more power of the system so now that we know all of that let's have a look at the benchmarks so as you can see I guess because of the CPU we're getting really mixed results in some more graphically intensive games like Far Cry 5 we're getting a big jump of performance we could actually get battlefield 5 running which is you know it runs decently actually csgo only runs a little bit better but that little bit actually makes a big difference because csgo when it runs it to lower frame rate it has really bad input lag whereas with the rx 517 that problem is kind of solved I could get fortnight running on it as well and it's a pretty decent gaming experience so all in all three games ran decently csgo runs ok on it battlefield 5 runs OK on it and then fortnight runs pretty well on it so with that it brings me to the end of what is hopefully the last video I ever have to do with this system I may keep the CPU and just recycle the rest of the PC because maybe if we get a better like 990 FX motherboard we can see how much of a difference that makes but as it stands this PC is going to a bin somewhere in here by but you know so if you enjoyed the video thank you very much for watching me just being angry at a drip tray PC if you liked the video like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one and until the next video all rightbefore we get further into this video I just want to say from the bottom of my heart I hate this PC and I don't really know why I hate it as much as I do because it's not because it's a badly performing budget system because don't get me wrong it performs weirdly badly in a lot of cases but I guess I can live with that it's not even because when I bought it it was dirtier than a drip tray at a 24-hour McDonald's because you can clean dirt I guess the reason I hate it so much is because of how inconsistent everything is about it from its performance to the problems that it has because every time you fix a problem you just get blindsided by another problem you know I am that seems completely unrelated it's just it's just terrible so now that you know where I stand on this terrible PC let's get into the video I actually realized that in that overdramatic intro I didn't properly set up the premise of this video no I'm on a bit of a journey to build the ultimate used price to performance gaming system for under two hundred US dollars now in that pursuit I bought this terrible pile of suck which is an old ibuypower system that's powered by an AMD bull loser FX 8120 CPU which is kind of an 8 core CPU and I feel like when it comes to use sub $200 price to performance this could be a really good CPU to start with I find out later that I guess it's not but but yeah well we'll leave that to later in the video now when I first bought this PC I spent so much time just cleaning it that I couldn't get it to run with an rx 570 because I didn't have enough time and there all kinds of weird issues so what we're gonna do in today's video is we're gonna get an rx 570 running in this pile of sock and then see if it turns into the ultimate sub $200 used gaming system and unfortunately we're back with the little piggy system which is very stubbornly holding on to its ideological differences with this rx 570 I'm gonna try and get it working in this video today but I'm not gonna try too hard because quite frankly I don't really care that much now the first suggestion that I got on how to get these two to play nice together was to update the actual BIOS on the motherboard the thing is though I went on to gigabytes website and they've only ever done one BIOS for this motherboard which is the one it launched with so that means one of two things either it's the most stable BIOS version ever or a gigabyte just doesn't care at all about this motherboard but yeah so I reinstalled it and it hasn't seemed to do anything now the second suggestion was that the power supply is actually an issue because it may say that it's a 600 watt power supply but if you look at the actual ratings for the rails and stuff like that it's more like it's cause playing as 600 watt power supply so I'm gonna change that out and see if it actually does anything I'm not convinced that it's going to though because the system does actually boot with the RX 570 in there the biggest issue is actually installing the drivers but let's try it out and see what happens don't you just love molex connectors they're such a sturdy and dependable connector as you can see I didn't really spend any time on cable management because honestly I couldn't really be asked but because it's black cables is supposed to ketchup and mustard it just kind of by default looks better now the actual power supply is supposed to look pathetic in comparison with it's 500 watts but on the 12 volt rail it's got 41 amps available as opposed to 18 amps on the 12 volt rail of the 600 watt power supply so if the power supply was an issue this should definitely rectify it I've run this graphics card with that power supply before so yes it should be fine with that let's let's see what happens now after all of this the way that I got the rx 570 to work in this little greased pan PC was by going into device manager where it actually said that there was an error with the system and it gave me an error code which I then googled now the solution doesn't really make sense to me because it's usually used to get drivers to work with used mining versions of the rx 570 and considering the fact that I bought this graphics got new and I didn't flash any biases onto it over the last six months of me using it it it's weird that it's behaving like a mining card but anyway basically all I needed to do was use this AMD ATI pixel clock patcher thing and it patched the graphics card drivers and while everything worked so now that I've gotten the rx 570 to run on this little drip tray of the system we're expecting much better performance than the GTX 560 that was in there before which is a very old mid-range graphics card the thing is though when I ran the GTA 5 benchmark with the rx 570 in the system which I just want to remind you GTA 5 was the game that ran by far the best on the system when it had the GTX 560 in there I got some really weird results for some reason with the RX 570 in here it performs worse than the system with the GTX 560 in it which doesn't make any sense to me the other games performance were all over the place but we'll get into that a bit later because one of the big issues is clearly that there's a massive CPU bottleneck when you're playing the game you can see here that the GPU utilization kind of jumps from like a hundred percent and then dips to like zero for a bit and then goes back up so there's clearly some CPU bottleneck and going on here and what I actually looked at what core speed we were getting on the FX 80 120 it was sitting at about 3.4 gigahertz which is not very high considering that the boost frequency of the CPU should be about 4 gigahertz so then I went into the terrible motherboards BIOS in the system and try to manually overclock it and see how far we could get now with an extra 200 megahertz with the CPU running at 3.6 gigahertz we were getting a pretty big performance jump with the RX 570 in there mind you it's still running worse than it did with the GTX 560 which just blows my mind that makes no sense but I reran the benchmark several times and it's it's it's just what it's doing right it's one of the things why I hate the system so much is it makes no sense now after that I decided ok let's see how far we can overclock the CPU so that we can get rid of as much of the CPU bottleneck as possible the problem is the highest I could get the CPU to go with this terrible motherboard is three point six eight gigahertz it refuses to boot at higher than that and at three point six eight gigahertz it crashes all the time now the obvious reason why the CPU is running so badly aside from the fact that it is a bulldozer CPU is the fact that the motherboard it comes with is horrendous it was an entry level budget motherboard before the bull loser CPUs even came out it was during the Phenom era this was a terrible motherboard so it just can't handle these CPUs that draw near to 200 watts in a lot of cases it's kind of like running a 39 50 X 16 core CPU in like a $60 a320 motherboard it's just it's just a terrible combination and that's why we can't get more power of the system so now that we know all of that let's have a look at the benchmarks so as you can see I guess because of the CPU we're getting really mixed results in some more graphically intensive games like Far Cry 5 we're getting a big jump of performance we could actually get battlefield 5 running which is you know it runs decently actually csgo only runs a little bit better but that little bit actually makes a big difference because csgo when it runs it to lower frame rate it has really bad input lag whereas with the rx 517 that problem is kind of solved I could get fortnight running on it as well and it's a pretty decent gaming experience so all in all three games ran decently csgo runs ok on it battlefield 5 runs OK on it and then fortnight runs pretty well on it so with that it brings me to the end of what is hopefully the last video I ever have to do with this system I may keep the CPU and just recycle the rest of the PC because maybe if we get a better like 990 FX motherboard we can see how much of a difference that makes but as it stands this PC is going to a bin somewhere in here by but you know so if you enjoyed the video thank you very much for watching me just being angry at a drip tray PC if you liked the video like and subscribe to the channel for more videos like this one and until the next video all right