The WAN Show - Microsoft's BEST Event EVER - October 9, 2015

The Power of Investing in Research and Development

In the world of technology, innovation is often driven by companies that have the resources and vision to invest in research and development. Apple's decision to put their money where their mouth was on fast storage technology is a prime example of this. By ordering the necessary hardware components and investing in the research and development required to make it happen, Apple was able to bring NVMe SSDs to market and showcase them in one of their flagship devices.

This approach is often contrasted with companies that claim to be innovators but ultimately fail to deliver on their promises. People love to say that "Apple never invented anything" when it comes to advancements in technology, but this couldn't be further from the truth. Apple has a long history of innovation and has brought many groundbreaking technologies to market.

One notable example is the development of SSDs. While Apple didn't invent NVMe or SSDs themselves, they did put their money where their mouth was by investing in the necessary hardware components and research and development required to make them work. This approach allowed them to bring fast storage technology to market and showcase it in one of their flagship devices.

The importance of fast storage cannot be overstated. In today's digital age, having access to fast storage is crucial for getting the most out of your device. Whether you're a gamer, content creator, or just someone who wants to enjoy smooth performance from their device, fast storage is essential.

Apple's investment in fast storage technology is a prime example of how investing in research and development can lead to innovation and success. By putting their money where their mouth was, Apple was able to bring NVMe SSDs to market and showcase them in one of their flagship devices.

KN F for Speed: A New Era of Racing Games

EA's latest racing game, KN F for Speed, has generated a lot of buzz in the gaming community. The game promises to deliver an old-school Need for Speed experience, complete with car customization options and a focus on realistic gameplay.

One of the most exciting features of KN F for Speed is its commitment to realism. The game's developers have stated that they're committed to avoiding microtransactions and instead focusing on delivering a polished, authentic racing experience. This approach has been praised by fans of the series who are looking for a return to form after years of controversy surrounding EA's handling of their franchises.

In an interview, EA revealed that they've learned from past mistakes and are taking a more thoughtful approach to monetizing their games. By avoiding microtransactions and focusing on delivering a high-quality experience, KN F for Speed is set to be a major hit with fans of the series.

The game itself promises to deliver fast-paced gameplay and realistic car physics. Players will be able to customize their cars and engage in high-speed racing, complete with police chases and dramatic crashes.

KN F for Speed has also been praised for its attention to detail. The game's developers have promised to deliver a polished experience that's true to the spirit of classic Need for Speed games. This includes realistic sound effects, accurate physics, and a focus on delivering a thrilling racing experience.

The Old School Need for Speed Experience

For many fans of the series, KN F for Speed promises to deliver an old-school Need for Speed experience that's true to the original games. The game's commitment to realism, car customization options, and fast-paced gameplay has generated a lot of excitement in the gaming community.

One of the most memorable aspects of classic Need for Speed games is the sense of freedom they provide. Players were able to speed through the streets, engage in police chases, and experience the thrill of racing without any limitations.

KN F for Speed promises to deliver this same sense of freedom and exhilaration. With its focus on realistic gameplay and car customization options, players will be able to create their own unique racing experiences that are true to the spirit of classic Need for Speed games.

The game's developers have also promised to deliver a polished experience that's free from microtransactions and other monetization tactics that have marred previous entries in the series. By focusing on delivering a high-quality experience, KN F for Speed is set to be a major hit with fans of the series.

Grinding Against the Wall

One of the most iconic aspects of classic Need for Speed games is the sense of humor and lightheartedness that pervades the series. From crashing into other cars to being pulled over by police, these games were always designed to deliver an entertaining experience.

KN F for Speed promises to deliver this same sense of humor and lightheartedness. The game's developers have promised to bring back some of the classic elements that made Need for Speed games so iconic, including the ability to grind against walls and engage in high-speed crashes.

In fact, KN F for Speed has already generated a lot of buzz on social media, with players sharing their experiences and reactions to the game. The game's developers have promised to deliver a polished experience that's true to the spirit of classic Need for Speed games, complete with realistic gameplay and car customization options.

The Future of Racing Games

KN F for Speed is just one example of how the racing game genre is evolving in response to changing player preferences. With its focus on realism, car customization options, and fast-paced gameplay, KN F for Speed promises to deliver an authentic racing experience that's true to the spirit of classic Need for Speed games.

As the gaming industry continues to evolve, it's clear that racing games will remain a popular genre for years to come. With their focus on delivering realistic gameplay, car customization options, and fast-paced action, KN F for Speed is set to be a major hit with fans of the series.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enokay you may not be able to tell this but we have actually moved since last week not much well is it Improvement it was enough that no it's not an improvement it was you might not know this but things got worse welcome to the L show we're only half an hour late what is this music and his laptop has Audio Oh shut up all right good we've got cool topics yeah we've got great topics today so at least there's that and the reason we're late is actually filming something the coolest video that I have ever made wow do you think I'm overselling it do you think really there was a bug okay what if I okay do you think I'm overselling this video maybe not I think there's really good contenders but this is pretty badass so so guys it's a build log but it's going to be a build log where the part where I physically build the computer is literally like 30 seconds to a minute and like the least important part yeah it's the single least interesting part of the build log it's like over there it actually legitimately isn't working now but there's a good reason for that and uh people are like the L show logo is too big you know what we have you're too big there's no such thing as too big technically um you could train up to we have had way worse issues than like the wano logos a little bit big way worse way worse Beyond way worse please fix the left hand logo uh you know what tell you what that'll be what we tackle next week instead of completely moving the entire set to make room to make the coolest video that I have ever done I will change the location of the wow logo in the meantime though we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today uh Microsoft announced a whack ton of Hardware including the Lumia 950 and 950 EXL the Surface Pro 4 the Surface Book I've actually got a Surface Pro 4 I will be unboxing it live later on the show so we'll be getting our first impressions of it um what else we got you can hack smartphones with just a text message um thank you Edward Snowden for telling us these things yeah basically um the people site that we smashed on that week and honestly I thought of a ton of reasons why it was even worse later on after the show um has apparently kind of disappeared but the Creator still moving ahead with the release uh Dell's got a bunch of interesting stuff that they actually there's just like a ton of stuff this week uh ARS Technica has their Android marshmallow review up so we'll be talking about that a little bit so stay tuned and there's a sale on the line is Tech tips district line store all remaining inventory is 50% off mostly small and 2x and 3XL shirts are remaining lanyards are still there for only $ 3.99 oh okay weren't we supposed to do that later I don't know we can also do it later look up are you really selfing during the W show you're taking a blurry selfie you managed to close your eyes okay okay no no no no no no no no no they're open it's not even that bad you're just not Smiley you're like what your selfie cam is not very good on that phone wow that's that's actually kind of surprising you know what has a great selfie cam the new galaxies oh really yeah the S6 and the Note 5 they have Wicked selfie cams it's actually kind of amazing okay cuz I was going to say that would be a whole other level of fail managing to Blink when you're the one controlling the shutter like it's I've probably done it just to be fair it's one thing to be like someone else is taking a picture and you're like right when they take the picture that's that's still kind of fail a little bit it's a little bit fail but to do it to do it to yourself is pretty bad oh you know what else arrived today I got my rose gold iPhone 6s oh damn also known as pink iPhone 6s because calling it rose gold is the most pretentious nonsense thing ever is it actually does it have a golden tinge or is it just super pink well okay do you have it we got to be careful of bumping the mic sorry about the mic bumps like it has a rose gold look to it in the same sense that the gold iPhone is not a yellow iPhone which it like that it doesn't look gold it looks like kind of you know orangey yellowy kind of goldish so it looks rose gold in the same sense that something it's behind the they can't see that all something rose gold would look kind of pink so well you guys can't see this at all so whatever you'll see the roll of it in the uh in the in the review that I do later on which I had that there for a reason I know but you can't you can't see it because it's behind we'll deal with that L later uh okay so let's go ahead and why don't we just kick things off with our first topic here today sure we'll actually start the show immediately for a change so the 10 most important things from the Microsoft Event this was posted by Matt Woodson on the Forum I'm going to go ahead and pull up the original article here from RS Technica you want to go ahead and throw that Forum Link in there oh I thought you're doing the Forum Link in the chat right okay don't we usually do that no oh well okay then I can handson the surface for pro four is a design that's settled down REI refines almost everything but keeps the basic looking feel of the pro three excellent very nice okay so let's go through what all happened at the event there there goes it train so they announced the Lumia 9950 this is a wind the Windows 10 mobile Flagship it's got a Snapdragon 808 processor which seems to be what the smart smartphone makers are using these days uh we actually have a video up on vessel where I took um a snapd two Snapdragon 810 based phones a Snapdragon 808 based phone an apple A9 based phone and an exos 7420 based phone and liquid cooled them all to find out how much they throttle and how much they're capable of if they don't thermal throttle and both of our 810 based phones were just abominable like it was terrible um tablet class liquid cooling technology as if it needs that with an 808 but whatever it features USB type-c huge thumbs up there I don't even care about about rapid Quick Charge features compared to having a type-c connector okay compared to yeah I was going to say they're pretty cool no no I do care yeah like I've I've actually found myself not being bothered nearly as much by iPhone battery this time around and I don't know maybe I got uh a tsmc chip versus a Samsung chip which is supposed to get better battery or something but uh and I haven't checked I haven't checked what CPU mine's using but I found I'm actually doing really well like I had a 3 and 1 half hour call with someone yesterday and in addition to using my phone like I normally do I've got the Apple watch so I'm paired via Bluetooth all the time and I almost made it to bedtime like it ran out like half an hour before I was going to go to bed that's still so not okay though I know I but hold on but then you plug it in for like 20 minutes and you've got a very significant charge yeah yeah like that that like there's a fail or not fail for me and if you fail you just failed I don't care if it was close you just still failed Droid Turbo 2 is rumored to be coming in about a week so I have already I have already started trying to get my tentacles into either Motorola or dbrand or someone I don't care heck I would even talk to Verizon if it was it's going to be a Verizon exclusive again is is the rumor um but man I am super stroked on that it looks like the battery capacity maybe a touch lower than last time actually but I mean assuming they get a bunch of other optimizations right it could still deliver just exceptional time on anyway back to the Lumia 950 sorry I got distracted by phones that matter oh dang actually Windows 10 mobile has some pretty cool looking stuff so uh yeah USB type-c 32 gigs of storage with a Micro SD slot and launching in November for 5.49 there will also be an EXL version uh featuring the Snapdragon 810 processor hopefully the chassis is big enough to dissipate the heat um with blah blah blah what else changes not a whole lot 5.7 in screen so there are some other devices there's alumia 550 so this replaces the 640 and 640 XL um the surface dock so it's a display to it's a display dock so this will allow you to turn your phones into a PC like experience this is some cool stuff now to be clear because these Snapdragon processors are Arm based you're not going to be you know running freaking split on it and you know game streaming off your phone you won't be running x86 applications but you will still be able to have a very Windows likee Experience and for applications that do have armed versions like office for example you will be able to use those this is something I was wondering about I was actually going to pitch this to you as a lpes video again I've done this before it's probably a terrible idea let's pitch it to you on stream we'll see what you think um I was thinking about like OTG Extravaganza where we take a phone and try to be like could you manage to like go through school with just your phone so use an OTG cable and like Splitters and an inline power so you would want to do it the ghetto way yeah so you try if we get like a keyboard and a mouse maybe even see if we can get that portable monitor running off of it off of like a like a massive battery bank or something yeah well no cuz you're in class you could plug it into the wall yeah I don't know back when I was in school there was a severe shortage of plugs like I went to class with a power bar okay fair enough everyone loved me you could just tell someone else you want to make quick techie friends in school bring a power bar I'm not even kidding that's all you need anyways sorry but I thought it could be fun just like what is the extent you could go and with like modern pretty fast phones that you could have word processors on yeah is it enough to just like take notes with the keyboard and mouse Microsoft wants to be doable out of the box but then you'd have to use a Windows phone yeah and like how much does that thing cost so you have to have a Windows phone and you have to buy this thing my idea is like hopefully you just have to kind of buy the adapters you already have a keyboard and mouse the doc is pretty cool though so it plugs in with the type-c connector and provides ports for HDMI display port and three full-size USB ports so you really could have like a very desktop like experience plugging into this bad boy um other things so the Surface Pro 4 maybe now's a good time to do the live unboxing hopefully it doesn't just fall out my box is very plain I actually got this from the uh the the Vancouver Microsoft folks they dropped it off today the timing is terrible because I ordered one last night thinking that I was just going to have to buy one in order to get one and so you just cancel it yeah yeah no I still can cuz it's it's just a pre-order so I will cancel my order there you go it's the Surface Pro 3 the pen is sort of magneet stuck to it right now I'm actually legitimately not if that's supposed to go there no that's for the uh the uh the type cover so we'll go ahead typ cover is that the typ cover I do have a type cover yes I actually I asked them that too cuz I was legitimately not even going to bother taking the device from them if they didn't have a type cover for it cuz I was just like yeah realistically I can't review a surface device without the type cover anyway so I might as well just wait people are saying three or four or three did I say three sorry no this is a Surface Pro 4 yeah okay so it's a four there we go that snaps on a little something like that it's got a kickstand a little something like that it still closes something like that it's got a couple different like angles and junk so you can do things with it I sort of think I agree so far with uh RS Technica evaluation it not having a Surface Pro 3 in front of me you could just tell me this is a Surface Pro 3 and I would literally never know the difference at all so you've got your mini display port here you got a regular USB connector um over on the other side you got your headphone jack you got your webcam you got your micro SD slot yeah pretty much looks like the same damn thing I've got the 128 mod show the screen disconnect joint the screen disconnect not the same as the old one uh this isn't the Surface Book yeah this is not the Surface Book this is the Surface Pro 4 so this is still just the tablet that I turned off when I went to turn it around and show you guys the screen which whatever let's just get through the specs there will be a review coming I do also have an order in for the top tier Surface Book and I will be reviewing that as well so the Surface Pro 4 12.3 in display with reduced bezels so a bigger screen without actually increasing the device size up to a terab of SSD storage up to 16 gigs of RAM thank you both the Surface Book and the Surface Pro 4 are available with up to 16 gigs of RAM thank you given how much memory a freaking web browser can use these days and don't tell me it's chromes it's all chrome problem all right they're all guilty of it um 16 gigs of round is a must if you are multitasking it features a six gen int Core I5 or i7 I think there's an I3 model actually skyl processor and they're claiming it is 50% faster than a MacBook Air and 30% faster than a Surface Pro 3 but it's battery is its battery life as good as MacBook Air yeah that is a Ser damn that was impressive that is a serious thing to overcome about the MacBook Air if you're going to try and compete with that puppy yeah uh it's got a fingerprint scanner a hybrid cooling system Gorilla Glass 4 and you can call Cortana by holding down the button on the surface pen the type cover is also the thinnest ever it actually that may be noticeable uh it's been a while since I've played with one though and has a 40% larger trackpad that is a noticeable improvement with 5point multi-touch support and the surface book is the first ever twoin one laptop built by Microsoft this really looks like a game changer like I'm somewhat interested in the Surface Pro 4 as you guys know I wasn't a huge fan of the Surface Pro 3 and this looks like very much an iterative Improvement Surface Book on the other hand though that could be a game changer I think that's what people in chat were kind of looking for and I understand that too yeah 13 1 12 in display 267 pixels per inch that is one high resolution screen uh pixel sense for touch sixth generation Skylake processor latest generation Nvidia GeForce GPU they're being very koi I hate that about the graphics processor in it um apparently 620 Microsoft worked with its Xbox team to tunee in graphics performance okay it's advertised at 12 hours of battery life per charge and has a dynamic fulcrum hinge that can accept the screen in either direction so you can have it turned this way for like a laptop or you can turn it around and use it as a tablet and it starts at $1,500 with the highest end model at $26.99 with the unnamed Invidia GPU I am super stoked on this one really excited to see if it throttles because it looks like a really Slim like very beautiful device but maybe thick enough that they actually managed to cool the bloody thing unlike the 2015 retina MacBook yeah um which we got literally double the performance out of when we water cooled it so yeah I don't know I don't really know what else to uh to say about that other than that I think that's about it until we see it yeah I'm like super stoked it's I've pre-ordered the core i7 model so yeah Facebook has a new Universal Windows 10 app that's honestly basically all I have to really say there um yeah it'll work on all your windows 10 platforms and everyone just uses Windows 10 computers so yeah but if you get like a tablet or a phone it'll work on there too it's just so boring yeah uh the Microsoft band is being positioned as the ultimate fitness device everyone wants to sell you a freaking wearable based on Fitness how many people actually work out think about how much uh money you make out of that and honestly so many of them are useless I know if they don't have a heart rate monitor then don't buy it as a fitness device because there's a huge amount of stuff that can count your steps like you can get like a couple dollar things that you just reset every day that can count your steps and you don't have to spend like hundreds of dollars on this crap I don't know you know what Austin was saying this and I think it's pure I mean I think he believes it but like for me it doesn't work at all but he was saying one of the things he loves about the Apple watch is the little Fitness tracking bars like the step tracking and standing bars that are like hey you've only done like 40% of enough for today and every time he looks at it a reminder you can get free apps on your phone but you don't stare at your phone every time you want to know the time well okay you do but okay just just just calm down for a second okay you're less likely to see something else cuz like I don't know about you but droid turbo I straight up do not even have to unlock it to see the time I will legitimately not see anything I really like that about Motorola stuff yeah it's really cool if if the Droid Turbo 2 doesn't have the proximity sensor and like wave to preview my notifications crap I straight up not interested in it that was my favorite thing about that is a killer also why isn't everyone doing this Jester for flashlight I don't even have to like why isn't everybody doing this that's really cool there's a few little things about that film that I love um so anyway here let's do my straw pole results here lonus is Queen do you even work out bro we've got 32% of you saying yes with 42% of you saying no and 27% of you uh weighing in with uh with turnip throw away your vote votes I mean this is one of those things it's like you're trying to sell wearables to like I mean I guess maybe that's it they're not they're not trying to sell them to Geeks no not not specifically yeah because like there's a lot of people that buy does anyone else give a crap wearables that aren't Geeks yeah okay yeah like I have friends of mine that aren't Geeks that want to get a fitness wearable would they buy a Microsoft band it's Microsoft so probably not but Microsoft is probably trying to get there so it's got an OLED screen a curved gorilla glass display apparently there are lots of thirdparty Partners like subway Starbucks Twitter and Uber huh good luck with that um to Subway and run back home it can track elevation with the built-in barometer and it's coming for $249 on October 30th and Uber I understand it's like so you can call a cab but like uber like run for a little bit and then Uber for the rest of your run and then run back home it's like for Halloween I'm going to go as a Microsoft Fanboy with my Microsoft B and oh my God we have to do something for what what when does Halloween happen on the 31st oh my good no Saturday I was wondering what day oh so so we have to the 30th the day before yeah is wano oh we have to do something oh I don't know what to do I'm just so tired lately just tell someone else to figure it out yeah I guess that is the point of hiring people yeah Colton Colton so this is kind of huge huge price tag that is so sad I wanted one so bad and now there's no way I'm going to get one hollow lens Dev kits $3,000 I don't even have to look at the doc to know that it's just so expensive the kits will apparently be fully untethered so no cables or connection to a PC is required so you could trade in your PC no towards buying that Hollow lens dev kit it wouldn't even I don't even think it would cover it no it wouldn't and perspective augmented reality devs can put in an application now so the dev kit is coming q1 of 2016 we were actually just commenting the other day that the whole Hollow lens thing has been extremely quiet lately just completely shut up about it and then now they're talking about it and I want them to shut up again yeah go away figure out a way to make it cheaper go away find some way to make it cheaper apparently Colon's going to figure out Halloween stuff for us okay good all right so that's pretty much it for the uh for the the Microsoft I wish I wish we had more to say about Hollow lens so this article is from gatech.edu edu oh like yeah this is the Georgia Tech site yeah okay so liquid cooling moves onto the chip for denser Electronics this is looking like some pretty freaking cool stuff so micro fluidic passages cut directly into the backsides of production field programmable gate array devices so fpga devices could allow better density of transistors and therefore better uh device Trend uh excuse me uh better device performance per size which could lower costs although we would need to know how much um we' need to know how much this costs to implement and could improve performance as well so if we're not looking at low cost devices then just packing everything in denser could improve performance as well to make this they etched cooling passages into the Silicon incorporating silicon cylinders proximately 100 microns in diameter to improve heat transmission jeez so the information presented on September 28th at the i e conference in San Jose California and like all the like wow that's crazy bananas technology stuff that we talk about we could be looking at years before any of this ever gets implemented if any of it ever gets implemented when things are presented at you see them in a while yeah um apparently with water inlet temperature at of approximately 20° C and an inlet flow rate of 147 you got to stop putting the thing over what I'm reading now sorry sorry sorry I'm trying to I'm I'm reading along and I'm trying to be an active listener 147 millimet per millit per minute the liquid cooled fpga operated at less than 24 de C which is pretty crazy actually that is so cool they don't talk about what that fpga was doing or what is actually disting the heat yeah um so like I I I don't know you know like would your motherboard have the liquid cooling radiator for the CPU like at the back and then like in maybe so yeah yeah we'll cross that bridge when we get to it yeah I mean and and like to be clear fpga is not a like an Intel CPU that totally different class of device that's why I took back my soldered in comment yeah all right smartphones can be hacked into with just one text message and then used to spy on the owners this is according to Edward Snowden the famous whistleblower for the whole NSA shenanigan thing that's been going on for God it's been over a year now hasn't it jeez all right so you about his Twitter account sorry he made a Twitter account which was immediately official so this was obviously planned which was probably smart I'm one thing I was wondering about is does he have a login method just for him does he have a special way to log into Twitter I kind of bet you he does and I bet you his login is monitored like all the time anyways um he had like a huge amount of followers already he's he's following one thing and it's the NSA hilarious anyways so yeah apparently they can be hacked into with just one text message then used to spy on their owners as he said um the government Communications Headquarters GC HQ has a set of tools called the Smurf Suite there's is kind of hilarious there's three of them first one is dreamy Smurf lets the phone be powered on and off nosy Smurf which lets spies turn the microphone on and listen in even if the is off and paranoid Smurf which hides the fact that the phone has been taken over apparently Snowden says that the NSA has spent one billion dollars on similar tools that's where your taxpayer money is going if you're American or UK appreciate that yeah wo let's have a let's have a tax party I think that's what it's called in the whatever eyes thing probably our tax money too oh I know I was just being I was I was just being smug about being Canadian there's nothing to really be smug about it about our tax sell probably that as well with respect to this anyway um Australian researchers make a Quantum Computing breakthrough this is from smh.com.au are you posting the link yeah I got it okay Paving the way for world first chip oo Quantum it could be a real thing now okay again to be clear even if a quantum chip existed you wouldn't be installing it in your home computer for a very very very long time I thought it might be super good once we're able to do that due to like encryption and all this other kind of stuff but um now so basically until now this technology has relied on exotic materials to construct quantum computers making them completely unsuitable for commercial production like we're talking like we have to have it at like this like hugely Subzero temperature and like maintain it like exactly there and then like it'll do something for a bit and yeah proof of concept um but they have apparently patented a way to scale their technology to millions of cubits so that's like Quantum bits uh using standard industrial manufacturing techniques to build the world's first Quantum processor chip so basically their patented design modifies the transistors found in regular computer chips to store zero or one on the spin of a single electron which works like a tiny compass needle so it builds on previous research that produced the first Quantum Computing transistor of this type interesting so they've demonstrated the first time that we can do the first Quantum calculation on a silicon chip working with two of these Quantum bits so stay tuned I guess and to be clear Quantum Computing is not going to be like the be all and end all of oh now we can do like way better 3D graphics for for gaming uh but it's great for things like Luke was saying like encryption for example way faster for that this is kind of and like the idea is if you mess with the data it will change the data so if you try to read it and you're the wrong person I believe it will actually change what the data is so if someone tries to break into your encrypted whatever it won't matter it will suck because if you try to read it later on it'll be changed but it's kind of like the idea of like having your phone wipe itself if it gets read too many times like that's actually a good thing I had to turn that feature off cuz I have children yes yes I've had someone like grab my phone and they just be like and fail a whole bunch of logins I'm like no stop please what are you doing so to to get some idea of of why that is I mean look at CPUs and gpus how they are much better for um hold on a second how they're much better for specific workloads than each other not because like one is just better and the other is worse but because they're optimized for different workloads so I'm going to go ahead and fire up this article from BBC and Luc is going to handle this people topic okay didn't see that coming and yes I know that's not exactly how Quantum encryption Works give me a break it's actually not a bad representation you can go look it up uh if you want to know more about Quantum anything you should probably look more deeply into it than like a couple second description on a w um people sites disappear Creator is still moving ahead with release that is what he opened right yes so the people website is inaccessible for many some just getting a landing page social Outlets such as people's Twitter and people's Facebook pages have been taken down but co-creator Julia cordre is still planning to release the app pushing its release date from November to next week probably just because how much people have been talking about it you got to jump on that hype train as much as you can adjustments to the app include individuals individuals cannot be reviewed without their permission which is probably a good idea um no way to make a negative review at all apparently and review must be approved before it is posted so basically it's just going to be a circle jerk of everyone telling each other that they're great because nothing else is going to get approved um unless people want to be self-deprecating about it Emily laad law a University Calgary assistant law professor says the app could potentially have huge legal ramifications for its creators which is super not surprising she also states that in Canada if you run an app or you're hosting a website and you are informed that you're carrying content that is defamatory um you have you now have knowledge and you have control so you risk liability if you don't take the content down that being said they probably won't run or host it in Canada so that probably doesn't matter but they could there is actually one good hosting company in Canada that I know of maybe a few more than that um so who knows I don't know I can't really open another topic so let me try give me one second what we're going to talk about as lonus comes back um can you open that topic it's hard like around the which one Japan Japan one oh that is so cool yeah I'm like super stoked on this so Japan display 8K 17in l CD bam why are you super stoked on that I don't know it's cool can you tell the difference between a 4K screen at that size um maybe yeah yeah probably 4K and ak8 well okay uh to be fair I heard you talking and didn't read it and heard 7 in and was like why does he care 1 in makes a little bit more sense yes yeah yeah 17 in I mean to to be clear okay okay like that okay like it okay it's just cool because it's like nerdy cool yeah it's cool because it's 510 PPI on a 17inch screen yeah bad this isn't groundbreaking pixels per inch even like Sony's upcoming Xperia Z5 is going to be like 700 but that's not 17 in but it's not 17 in and it's a mere 4K display so it's actually one qu as many pixels as they've managed to build here I got to wonder how much does it cost them to build this thing this is cool though um so the module can actually run at a refresh rate of 120 htz I don't know what they're using to drive this thing because there's no display there's no off-the-shelf display interface in existence that can drive 8K at 60 HZ let alone 120 HZ that and I'm talking I obviously there's other stuff that exists but I'm talking like you know your HDMI or your display port or Heaven forbit DVI or whatever else the case may be um so I have no idea what they're using to drive this thing in fact I've been tempted at CES sometimes to be like okay so that's an 8K TV you're playing back some 8K content can I can I see what's behind here like what is plugged into this how are you running this like it must just be like a proprietary Flash bed like direct to the display interface or something like could you build it as memory into the display maybe maybe like you like if you actually used Ram like if you just had like flash based storage that loaded it into RAM that interfaced directly with the display like I have no idea how they're like 8 8K okay so hold on 8K resolution let's find out what that is so that's 7680 by 4320 Okay so calculator what what what why are these things happening to me calculator okay so 76 80 RCA times no I know a bunch of people are saying that in chat no I can't like no many people are saying that why would that work so this is 33 mega pixels like think think about it if you're if you're like a DSLR photographer so you take high resolution photos even then you're not taking 33 megapixel photos how long it takes just to like open one of them on your computer so we're talking 120 of those per second freaking bananas um sometimes I don't really understand is this a Colton thing like how that gets classified as a main topic and like other stuff gets classified as like a rapid fire topic I don't know I often do not really understand the logic because there's nothing to really say other than like that looks bananas I guess I'll enjoy it in about four or five years still saying RCA the twitch chat is great also I can't believe that you didn't think of having 60 different VGA connections together what why not yeah that's probably it all right so the Dell XPS lineup has been refreshed oh we haven't been saying who's been posting stuff on the Forum so this is from Sir squid the Japan display one is from Good Bites The People site disappearing is from stuarty 211 the Australian researchers with the quantum computer thing is kill comic smartphones being hacked into with just one text message comes from Cyborg warriar and liquid cooling moving on to the chip is from numpad all right so I am sort of stoked on certain things and super stoked on others so the things I mostly don't give a crap about are the XPS 13 refresh and XPS 15 so about those I guess they have slim bezels which is cool that is cool it's cool but the the old XPS 13 that they announced at CES this year had really Slim bezels I reviewed it it was nice the old one that they announced at CES this year well whatever I mean the slightly less the slightly less new one Whatever whatever you want to call it so the 13 and 15 are getting updated processors and packing more storage into their thin frames finally they're available 16 gigs of RAM definitely care about that I ripped on the universal thing I ripped on the 13 so hard for only going up to 8 gigs of RAM considering how much money was getting spent on that computer there's an optional Nvidia gddr5 GPU that can be added to the notebook so they're being koi again so Nvidia basically is like yeah you can uh you can announce it but uh don't tell people what it is or whatever I'm trying to do like a it was supposed to be a cigar I think that came off as weed yeah whatever well I I screwed up the handan thing yeah I made an effort um it's cigar like maybe like or what did you cigar but that's both yeah that's kind yeah I don't know you got to like make sure it's big yeah maybe I didn't make sure it was big enough I mean that could just be like a really big that's true I mean that when when the Blunt's too strong yeah that would be totally totally totally big but then like you were saying earlier in the show it can never be too big around circumference diameter these are good things um so I can have up to one terabyte of PCI Express based storage and I don't know they still have webcams on the bottom of the screen which is kind of a bummer if you have like kind of an upturned nose and you don't want people looking at your brain while they talk to you um okay but the XPS 12 this is the one I care about because I used an XPS 12 for man it must have been like over a year I was using that as my da driver in fact Luke's inherited it now great little device it's been durable it's been rained on it's survived it's got a great keyboard love that device so it is finally getting an upgrade um 12 1 12 inch full HD display with an upgrade to a 4K touchscreen two Thunderbolt 3 ports using USB type-c connectors has support for the Dell pen if you care and uh dell is positioning it as a competitor to the Surface Pro 4 I am super excited because I like the concept of um a convertible that doesn't have a kickstand versus a convertible that does have a kickstand quite a bit more let's see if I can if I can pull up some pictures here new xps2 here we go so it remains to be seen for me if this hinge design is going to light as many fires for me as the uh the old pin wheel design did we can actually we can show that here here so check it out so this is the way the old XP well we broke it a bit when we dropped it broke it a little bit but it it usually like that was that was a pretty good just it it popping out doesn't work as well as it used to yeah it going back in is so you turn it around flip it into a tablet this one is using a bit of a different approach here but um yeah so it's like actually disconnecting and reconnecting but I still like that better than I like the whole kickstand thing because the kickstand is so inflexible like if you're not sitting on a table it's kind of inconvenient like even sitting on an airplane very inconvenient I hate kickstands which which is like if I was going to pitch you know who is the Surface Pro designed for I would go okay you know maybe the traveler but the the airline trays are so slim that you can't actually put your keyboard in the kickstand on the back of it the good news is that I did discover that you can kind of lean it against the seat in front of you but it's definitely not as secure I wouldn't trust it as much um this is huge original article here from The Verge posted by run on the Forum Volvo yeah says it will take the blame if one of its self-driving cars crashes so does this mean you wouldn't have to have insurance no I think you would still need insurance but I think your insurance company would go to Volvo for the claim so there it'll likely be like a convoluted process I'd imagine there's all kinds of legal ramifications here like from one country to another this might be implemented somewhat differently um but basically up until now no one's been willing to step up and say okay if an automated car running in autonomous mode by the way if you crash it they're not taking responsibility for it right so you'd have to have insurance because there's manual mode yes so running in autonomous mode no one has really stepped up and said okay yes we will take responsibility for this you know whether it's your your Google or or your car manufacturer your insurance company or I mean the owner as as sort of a driver I would kind of go oh shoot you know like I don't if I make though I'm probably not as good as a self-driving car I would rather take responsibility for my own actions instead of the possibility of taking responsibility for one others yes thank you that was very succinct yeah so and it's frustrating and that's a huge problem with self-driving cars in general so it's cool that these guys are actually standing up um I would like to see everyone else uh everyone else that's making self-driving cars do the same thing although proving that it was properly in self-driving mode could prove to be difficult good job with it that's cool they want hacking a car um turned into a criminal offense I don't think they'll have a problem doing that but they also need to properly defend their own cars yes uh we saw this problem with Jeep and all that kind of stuff the only ones doing it properly right now are Tesla if everyone takes the same stance as Tesla I'd be okay with that but if people just leave giant holes in the security of their vehicles and they go like well it's illegal it's illegal you probably shouldn't do it then that's still not okay yeah I think that's about it yeah I think that's about it for that why don't we do sponsors yes so we've actually got a couple sponsors today one is squarespace.com the place to go to build it beautiful thank you Luke uh so basically 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yep so you can just turn it off so that's a good thing but if you think it's a bad thing you can just turn it off which makes it a good thing I just want to clarify that good job yay uh there's a couple other things that I've already observed about it I did get handson with it although I didn't get to listen to it unfortunately at P um and it's that they actually just they took a common sense approach which seems like the kind of thing that I shouldn't really have to say is amazing it's not super common with gaming headsets though I know so it's a point that is good to make but the ear cups are actually designed in like the shape of a human ear as opposed to whatever types of ears are around like perfect circles to be fair he he yeah he doesn't mean like they they exactly follow the shape of human ear but like they're they're more vertical yeah they're they're shaped in somewhat the shape of a human ear um so yeah I actually I think this is not our wow like showcase sample this is supposed to be my review sample so I'm supposed to be working on a review so stay stay tuned for that but in the meantime if you guys want to check it out there's a link that I posted in the chat I'm going to go ahead and post it one more time and if you guys are watching the archive then the link is in the video description to where you can check it out on Amazon there's also like a how they made it video where I have a very very short comment on the end about how I thought they were oh yeah oh yeah that's right I I didn't want to comment on it in- depth and I'll say basically the same thing here which was I I didn't have direct comparative data to things that I use all the time and I didn't have the music that I use all the time right so I can't like very accurately say exactly how they sound but I was pleasantly surprised for a gaming headset and they didn't if you put it on and didn't tell me it was a gaming headset which you can hide the mic very well so you might have been able to convince me I wouldn't have immediately thought it was a gaming headset which is like pretty good price well I will be uh I will be pulling out all the headphones so so that's the proper audio review you should so take that wait for yeah so this is interesting this is actually it's funny this isn't rapid fire but this is the first thing we've really talked about today that actually has some discussion that we can do about it uh the video game voice actors give the national board the green light to vote to strike if needed so there you go the original article here is from Gamespot and this was an overwhelmingly positive response to the vote here with 96.52% of members voting in favor of the interactive media agreement strike authorization referendum they only needed 75% in order for this to get authorized uh or for in order to give the national board that Authority and so basically what they're coming to the negotiating table with is um let's see so the original agreement was signed in the mid1 1990s and it's still in effect today despite very significant industry changes like we're talking in the days when a game Studio like oh I don't know blizzard would have been a small company um to now Blockbuster games getting as much or more if you look at stuff like Grand Theft Auto 5 spent on them compared to a Blockbuster movie which are three was 80 million too the industry is very very different today and the board is basically asking for a couple of things so better transparency in the addition process for games and they are asking for I think they're asking for some um when the parts that they're that they're doing are particularly strenuous they're asking for limits to how long they can work for uh at a time and they're asking for better compensation including a performance bonus for every 2 million copies SL subscribers sold of a game so that's the part that I want to talk about because who who gets the performance bonus when something does really well I know that there have been cases where actors have negotiated such a thing but it usually comes along with negoti for a low salary to participate in the project bring that up that's that's usually a per case thing usually only the really big actors get it and it's like I think probably I'd say that it's probably less common now due to people seeing how ridiculously epic it was like didn't didn't um I'm going to forget his name which is going to make me a terrible person but the actor that played Han Solo really Harrison Harrison Ford didn't Harrison Ford get a like the copy sold whatever agreement on Star Wars um wasn't that just insane hold on I'm not sure I'm not sure I feel like someone did in that chat I feel like someone did and I don't remember who it was someone in twitch chat is probably already telling us well in between slaying me for forgetting his name yeah people are like oh wow wow no wow Luke is dead to me he forgot Ford oh wow wow wow wow wow how does he not know her Luke lost all nerd cred you are St remember the guy's name on the show I remember Han Solo but I remember Harrison Ford Alec Guinness Alec Guinness it was Obi-Wan Kenobi there we go he did that okay yeah there and then he made like huge amounts of money off of it yeah yeah I'm not convinced he ever worked again uh and apparently Spielberg also got a royalty cut from Lucas um so so anyway the point is if the movie does really well that can be very disastrous for the folks that are investing the actual money into the project I mean with that said it's not like an investment of time isn't also an investment but it gets it gets looked at a little bit differently when we're talking about the actual money that gets paid out when the project gets super successful so companies tend to shy away from agreements like that because it means that they can't really control their costs after the fact so I don't know do do you think it is fair for voice actors to ask for royalties based on how many copies are sold I don't necessarily think that it's fair that that is a guarantee in every single contract right I think that it is fair for them to ask I think it is fair for them to negotiate for right I don't know if as a company I would hire as many voice actors and this is something I think they need to realize if I know that every single voice actor that I hire is going to get a performance bonus for every 2 million copies of the game that I sell and for games that try to strive for having every single one of their characters having an individual voice actor which is awesome that is super cool when you're playing a game that everyone you talk to sounds different right I wouldn't want to pay them each individual one of them out unless it's like 50 cents per which they probably have some extra lines saying that it has to be a certain percentage or whatever so I don't know that makes me a little bit uneasy um but I do think the ability to request it should be there right and I mean quite frankly that probably already exists I mean if you're freaking Samuel L Jackson or something and you're like yep I'm going to want a performance bonus based on what was it in Fallout 3 li niss I think like like there's there's pretty big names that do these voice acting things and I'm sure they could pull for leverage on that if they really wanted to I don't know if I agree with it being in every single contract having more transparency super cool um possibly getting compensated better you know what I want really good voice actors if that helps really good voice actors be a thing cool um yeah I had actually speaking of really good voice actors it's funny um I saw some comments on the um this was posted by booo on the Forum by the way and in the original thread I saw some comments from people saying like oh why are they being such all they do is like sit in front of their microphone and like voice act it's easy it's not as easy as you'd think yeah it's I tried doing there was do it there was skywind skywind is like a a whole bunch of people are trying to develop for skywind and I decided that I would try to do voice acting because they were looking for voice actors to do a whole bunch of different parts and I knew I had like an okay mic it was the snowball wasn't great but like they said on the thing that it was one of the approved mics and I was going to try to get like a ghetto pop filter for it and stuff and I went through the list trying to pick like what could my voice work for in here and I'm like wow nothing oh wow wow and then like found something it would work for did like 80 takes of the one line that I had to do remembering and listening to that line being delivered from the original mowind and then eventually being like nope there's better people they'll do it I suck and moving on yeah I mean especially when you you don't even have any actions to go along with it and you can't even necessarily look at the character doing what they're supposed to be doing like trying to emote in a way that is going to not look and sound completely weird and unnatural when the players experiencing it is not an easy task and you could kind of go oh well you know once they practice it up and get good at it then it's easy for them well you know what that's the investment they made yeah into developing a skill I mean quite frankly here here I'm going to I'm going to blow your mind pretty much everything is easy yeah if you break it down enough is Plumbing rocket science no so why is it that I have to pay someone $75 an hour to come to my house and do it because I don't know how and because that person invested that time into learning how and if I were to go and educate myself on how to do it for the four times in my entire life that it'll ever come up and go acquire all the tools another investment that I would need in order to do it with any standard of quality I would spend more than it cost to just pay someone to do it that is how these things work some people think math is very easy and they're probably just ifed to a certain degree and some people think art is very easy and they're probably Justified to a certain degree and some but not all of those people don't cross over some things are easy for some people and their heart for oh okay well I was talking more in terms of like like practical practical things I wasn't necessarily talking about I wasn't okay by practical I mean things that you like do you don't do math you don't you're not being very helpful I wasn't talking about I wasn't talking about like a high High L thinking conceptual stuff or or subjective art I was talking about things like like Plumbing or things like dryw Walling is drywalling hard not if you know how to do it but you have to actually learn how to oh shut up shut up with your math he just he just he likes ragging on me because I can't do math both of the things you said both have math involved plumbing and drywalling both have math involved all right so our Technica has without math AR Technica has their Android marshmallow review this was posted by Z mule on the Forum um basically brings in a lot of user requested features but still has no update solution I'm glad that ARS brought this up because it really is the Achilles heel of Android right now the fact that there is just no strategy in place to address the way that Apple updates their older devices and that Microsoft is coming out saying yep Windows 10 is like the last windows and I'm sure there's an asterisk in there somewhere but the last until we releaseing other windows yeah um but but but basically it's a statement about support as well where they're saying on notebooks on desktops on phones we want this to be the windows that just kind of you you you do rolling updates to the way that you would with a with a mobile OS um so there's some good stuff there's a new home screen with some genuinely useful features like app search predictive apps and scrolling I feel like we talked about this last week we did yes yeah we covered this last week why the hell is this in the W show dog I don't know um w i I think it's not the first time this has happened but it hasn't happened in a while it's been a bit uh there are some more companies added to the diesel emissions Scandal Mercedes Benz Honda Mazda and Mitsubishi that's not a small amount at all yep so things are getting real here kids so in some uh realistic onroad test some Honda models emitted six times the regulatory limit while some unnamed 4x4 models had 20 times the limit coming out of their exhaust pipes last week uh whoa I'm going to fail at seeing a bunch of these is it Rena Renault Nissan hyai citen Fiat Volvo and Jeep were all that added to the list last week uh I think it's Renault Renault Renault so Renault Renault whatever someone's going to correct us we're going to get slammed I haven't watched enough Top Gear yeah oh we're getting slammed yeah whatever I there goes um so so this is hilarious uh vw's uh North American I want to say president or something like Anyway basically came out and said like like it was a couple of Rogue Engineers who did this behind everyone's back I'm paraphrasing and uh so so yeah and then and then basically just pulled the diesel lineup from North America which is about one in five of the cars that they're selling across VW and Audi in North America so it is it is going to be dark times for VW over the next little bit here and um this is interesting some consumers are are refusing the recall and in California I believe there's legislation that can um cause them to not be able to reregister their vehicle I was going to say you're not they're illegal to be on the road you can't just but in some states there is actually no law in place that would prevent people from continuing to drive the vehicle even though wouldn't they have to pass like environmental stand is that because we have that up here do they not have Air Care is gone oh yes yeah air Care's gone it was dissolved I think last year that doesn't seem like a good idea I don't know um anyway the point is some people citing performance concerns cuz it it will nerf the car a bit are saying they don't want their car recalled they don't want it fixed I don't want your car dumping crap into the air yeah I mean it has been it has been one like there's some there's some more numbers out now I think it's something like 400,000 California has Mission standards but it depends on the state in some states they just don't care I said that I'm clarified oh okay cuz you said you think didn't you oh maybe okay so yes California for sure um anyway so it's something along the lines of 350 or 400,000 cars um I I this was an article I was just reading earlier today it's not I don't have notes on it but um that are using like a first gen engine or something like that that requires not just a software update but also physical changes High larious and then I think it's only the third gen and maybe second gen ones that can maybe be fixed with a software update so this is this is I mean the the the the bottomless the bottomless pit of how much this is going to cost VW just continues to to gape open um yeah this is looking pretty ugly actually some of these topics are kind of boring so I think I'm just going to kind of skim over a lot of them w w what ones are you skimming so I know where to show I don't know kind of kind of a lot of them oh wrecked um oh this is cool so Anon article here the iPhone 6s and 6s plus uh they uh Anon showed some preliminary results that revealed that they are using an nvme SSD which is a huge huge deal they also appear to be using a smart SLC kind of hybrid SLC TLC Nan solution that gives it really fast Burst performance with slower sustained performance something that's not terribly important because you would almost never be writing like huge files continuously that would exceed what the TLC flash is capable of like even recording video continuously is going to be fine it's been measured at up to I think uh I've gotten my notes up to uh uh sequential read speeds in the neighborhood of oh balls no I I don't think that I don't think that number is right so I'm just going to I'm just going to ignore it um sequential reads of okay oh yeah 256 kiloby sequential reads in megabytes per second of 400 Megs per second with sequential rights of 160 megabytes per second so we're talking getting pretty close to an entrylevel SSD controller in here not to mention that because it's nvme random per performance is significantly improved I had been trying to put my finger on cuz I I have not done any actual can't put your finger on thank you objective benchmarks on the iPhone 6s but I've been trying to put my finger on why the crap app launching and switching was so fast and features like the uh the 3D touch to preview web pages why web pages even seem to load faster like everything about this phone is just so fast and I was like yeah the CPU is better but that really doesn't account for enough of the difference in performance it's because the nand absolutely blows away anything that we've ever seen before like here's the graph on an ontech comparing this to so here's the 6 Plus 6s plus up at the top here so the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus were already pretty fast but compared to the Galaxy S6 it's like almost twice as fast that's killer so um so yeah the iPhone yes it's an expensive phone yes Apple charges a lot for phones but this is a conversation that I've been meaning to have on wano for a little bit oops oh look it worked everyone looks at something expensive and wants to use the word overpriced immediately what is overpriced overpriced means you're not getting something for your money compared to what you could get for that money somewhere else if someone's like no this costs more because okay look at the razor blade you could say the razor blade 14 is overpriced okay compared to what compare it to something if you want something that has all the stuff that it has slim design high powered GPU uh that's the only definition of overpriced well what does overpriced mean then if you have a chocolate bar and there's no other chocolate bars that are exactly like that chocolate bar and you charge $50 for that chocolate bar it's probably still overpriced yes because other similar chocolate bars that could have similar features and similar performance in your mouth but what if they don't what if they don't what if it actually tastes 50 times better than another chocolate bar it's not over actually taste 50 times better right because if I just like put chunks of licorice in my chocolate bar no other chocolate bar has that that's a unique feature you cannot get that anywhere else you'd have to tear the chocolate bar apart and put it back together that's not the same that's not an outof package experience therefore you could price it as whatever you want but if you price it $50 it's obviously overpriced okay so bringing it back to you can't just do comparative data for overpriced so bringing it back to your phone has be value but but okay but with the okay fine but let's talk value because that's why I'm saying you have to compare it to other stuff that's out there so if you take the iPhone 6s and you go yeah this costs a lot more than a Galaxy S6 but it has this technology that the other thing completely straight up doesn't have because Apple went and invested in building their own nvme solution they they built their own storage so is it is it it's not off the shelf okay it's kind of like what they did in the iMac uh the iMac 27in retina where they're like okay well nothing can drive 5K so we're just going build our grand for the phone then it would be overpriced overpriced can be independent value can be seen independently yes it should cost more they have put more research into it the thing that is inside is better than the other thing that is inside the other thing it should cost more but it should cost a scalable amount more I'm not even saying you're necessarily wrong for just the phone but saying that overpriced is based off of comparing it to something else that's similar is not technically right something can be overpriced on its own well it can be you have to compare to something to evaluate what if there isn't something to compare to because I didn't say it's not worth it or it's worth it overprice yeah value is is no no no overpriced is okay so here let's take another good example would be um okay like a diamond studded phone okay okay does it cost $50,000 yes is it overpriced if it has you know 40,000 or $45,000 worth of diamonds on it no okay actually diamonds are a bad example because they are by definition overpriced because they're actually worthless okay so let's talk let's talk a solid gold phone then okay so if this if the value's in the gold and there's a reasonable amount of markup then it wouldn't be overpriced right that so it's not overpriced that's what I'm saying so if the feature I wasn't trying to say the same thing not necessarily I wasn't saying that the phone you are talking about is even overpriced that wasn't my argument okay because it might be worth the value because there's like I said technologies that are in it that are better than the other ones so it should cost more because they invested in it and they made it better and then they should charge more for it that's how markets work but saying that something is overpriced solely because you're comparing it to one other thing that you can look at it from more angles than that you were saying that you you determine if something is overpriced by comparing it to something thing yeah you can say something is overpriced if there's nothing to compare it to if I offer a stick well okay that happens to have you would still compare because you would have to compare so let's go back to your chocolate bar you would have to compare it to the cost of Licorice and chocolate that's still a comparison you have to compare to something because otherwise there's no point of reference like how much does Jupiter cost Hollow lens Hollow lens okay it's $3,000 it's $3,000 yeah what if Hollow lens was $50,000 if it was $50,000 $3,000 is like oh but they have a whole bunch of tech in there that might be interesting I don't know how much that cost same thing you have to you have to break it back down not going to cost 50 Grand that would be overpriced won't yeah what are you going to compare it to you would compare it to you can't compare it to the $3,000 version that doesn't exist no no you can't compare it to what's actually in it so is it made of unobtanium then that's what I'm saying so if it has an nvme device in it it's not in the other one it's fine but you don't have to compare it to another phone that doesn't have it in it you have to compare it to what made up the phone okay I see yes you can do that it has to be value there's going to be markups there's going distributions can you can individualize the the problem is that a lot of people don't consider like because if you look at bomb cost a lot of people when they say oh the iPhone is overpriced they don't consider that there's an enormous team of people working on it for a year but they they that's because they're ignorant oh okay what was because there's R&D teams there's distribution there's manufacturing there's there's resale I don't really remember my original point and I don't know what yours is mine was that you were stating the the how how you were like lining up your phrase was not right you're saying everyone's wrong because everyone Compares overpriced this thing CU saying it's overpriced because of whatever I'm going to have to go back and watch the archive and figure out what the crap I said okay my point is that you can't just say something's overpriced because it's expensive yes you cannot say that it's it's that's stupid because really you can't do it yes because something could be very expensive and it could still be a phone and it could not be overpriced because there's whether it's full of gold or whether it is full of a bunch of technology that was very expensive to develop you can you can say that doesn't have a value to me and therefore I will not spend my money on it but that doesn't mean it's overpriced that means you don't want to buy it or you can't buy it because it costs too much for you to justify compared to the other things in your life like for example let's take okay let's let's take the model S great example is it overpriced no is it too expensive for me yes yes is it okay in this context is it overpriced for me sure so like for for my means it's overpriced but that doesn't mean it's overpriced it means it's just expensive so there that's the distinction I'm trying to make the difference between overpriced and expensive deal with it sunglasses and they're not the same thing okay so anyway a lot of people say the iPhone is overpriced but in this context or in this case Apple has delivered something that is truly different and truly unique in spite of the fact that it looks exact like exactly the same thing as the previous damn iPhone it looks like they haven't done a bloody thing but they went they developed a new processor they developed a new storage solution that flips things on that flips the industry on its head in a way that hasn't been done before much like apple went and introduced the retina display and then all of a sudden like the Android handset makers they they never know when it's been enough of a good thing and they're like okay um 1080p uh uh 1440p 4K and then Apple runs and goes meanwhile you idiots are all increasing your freaking screen resolution for no reason we're going to go and make the storage faster which totally makes sense because in computers if you're making a computer for someone who wants to do a lot of the things that you're going to be doing on a phone not everything I know but a lot of the things you're doing on the phone a lot of times in SSD is their biggest upgrade yes and you know it's really funny because people Everyone loves to get pissed off and be like apple never invented anything and you know what in this case Apple didn't invent nvme they didn't invent ssds they didn't invent the concept of fast storage being important but they ran out and they actually did it they put it in a product and no one else had the balls someone in the chat is saying they didn't do that part of it was Samsung it doesn't matter it's in that phone who cares who cares it's in that phone Apple cut the PO yeah apple put their money where their mouth was they ordered the Nan chips they ordered the controllers they invested in the R&D to put it in a phone and they put it in a phone no one else had the balls or the resources or some combination of the two to just do it and that's what it sometimes comes down to you don't have to invent it you just have to do it we didn't invent a weekly podcast no that concept existed since before I like knew how to I don't know I'm trying to come up with something inter host of anything I think got people saying this topic sucks I don't care uh it's my podcast so and his too actually we share a a so we didn't invent the concept of of of a video podcast but we went and did it so we didn't invent the concept of YouTube videos yep I the concept of unboxings nope nope in fact I just did unboxings because I was like I need to do product overviews and I need a keyword that's like somewhat somewhat useful yeah people are like we hate this topic and other people are like I love this topic want to talk about something that we used to hate and that is hopefully getting less worse what are we talking about KN for Speed from EA oh yes this isn't in the dock um but I'll throw the link in the chat and you should be able to Google this pretty easily the one I'm looking at is on PC Gamer just look at PC Gamer KN for Speed you should be able to find it sure um I'll throw it in twitch chat this was like ah I my my brain is like not okay with accepting this but EA looks like they're doing cool things which is good we have to give them credit for doing cool things I just I have trust issues when it comes to EA um are you going to pre-order no I will not um Need for Speed is not going to have any microtransactions in the game they're saying that for sure but they're saying it probably won't have paid DLC so I'm going to go with there's probably going to be paid DLC and car customization is like huge and expansive and awesome and it looks like an old Need for Speed game and that makes me really excited right down to the shiny road yeah that's cool I don't care this this whole time I've just wanted like the old school style Need for Speed games and just I saw I saw an example of someone driving around and the car physics looked ridiculous and I was like yay thank you you know what's really funny about this is that all EA ever had to do to make Need for Speed fans happy is apply their NHL NBA formula to Need for Speed here it is the same game new roster please and they would have people would have actually just been happy every time I played a KN for Speed game back in the day I was like wow this story Line's terrible and I love it cuz that's not the point and I want to not feel bad for skipping cut scenes ever and I just want to go into some crazy race and then have cops chase me for no reason and then have things blow up no reason you're speeding smash into some other car and then be like LOL and just go around the corner and my car is fine anyways and be going so fast in one of the games that grinding against the wall to go around the corner was actually more effective than Breaking KN for Speed that was awesome I'm just trying to picture you getting pulled over by a cop be like there was no reason there was no reason going 200 miles hour yeah all right well I think that pretty much wraps it up for our topics today um yeah I got nothing else thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel vot can't leave the int we have any watch yeah I have to film three fastest posses right now and I also am tired so maybe we'll just do a veryokay you may not be able to tell this but we have actually moved since last week not much well is it Improvement it was enough that no it's not an improvement it was you might not know this but things got worse welcome to the L show we're only half an hour late what is this music and his laptop has Audio Oh shut up all right good we've got cool topics yeah we've got great topics today so at least there's that and the reason we're late is actually filming something the coolest video that I have ever made wow do you think I'm overselling it do you think really there was a bug okay what if I okay do you think I'm overselling this video maybe not I think there's really good contenders but this is pretty badass so so guys it's a build log but it's going to be a build log where the part where I physically build the computer is literally like 30 seconds to a minute and like the least important part yeah it's the single least interesting part of the build log it's like over there it actually legitimately isn't working now but there's a good reason for that and uh people are like the L show logo is too big you know what we have you're too big there's no such thing as too big technically um you could train up to we have had way worse issues than like the wano logos a little bit big way worse way worse Beyond way worse please fix the left hand logo uh you know what tell you what that'll be what we tackle next week instead of completely moving the entire set to make room to make the coolest video that I have ever done I will change the location of the wow logo in the meantime though we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today uh Microsoft announced a whack ton of Hardware including the Lumia 950 and 950 EXL the Surface Pro 4 the Surface Book I've actually got a Surface Pro 4 I will be unboxing it live later on the show so we'll be getting our first impressions of it um what else we got you can hack smartphones with just a text message um thank you Edward Snowden for telling us these things yeah basically um the people site that we smashed on that week and honestly I thought of a ton of reasons why it was even worse later on after the show um has apparently kind of disappeared but the Creator still moving ahead with the release uh Dell's got a bunch of interesting stuff that they actually there's just like a ton of stuff this week uh ARS Technica has their Android marshmallow review up so we'll be talking about that a little bit so stay tuned and there's a sale on the line is Tech tips district line store all remaining inventory is 50% off mostly small and 2x and 3XL shirts are remaining lanyards are still there for only $ 3.99 oh okay weren't we supposed to do that later I don't know we can also do it later look up are you really selfing during the W show you're taking a blurry selfie you managed to close your eyes okay okay no no no no no no no no no they're open it's not even that bad you're just not Smiley you're like what your selfie cam is not very good on that phone wow that's that's actually kind of surprising you know what has a great selfie cam the new galaxies oh really yeah the S6 and the Note 5 they have Wicked selfie cams it's actually kind of amazing okay cuz I was going to say that would be a whole other level of fail managing to Blink when you're the one controlling the shutter like it's I've probably done it just to be fair it's one thing to be like someone else is taking a picture and you're like right when they take the picture that's that's still kind of fail a little bit it's a little bit fail but to do it to do it to yourself is pretty bad oh you know what else arrived today I got my rose gold iPhone 6s oh damn also known as pink iPhone 6s because calling it rose gold is the most pretentious nonsense thing ever is it actually does it have a golden tinge or is it just super pink well okay do you have it we got to be careful of bumping the mic sorry about the mic bumps like it has a rose gold look to it in the same sense that the gold iPhone is not a yellow iPhone which it like that it doesn't look gold it looks like kind of you know orangey yellowy kind of goldish so it looks rose gold in the same sense that something it's behind the they can't see that all something rose gold would look kind of pink so well you guys can't see this at all so whatever you'll see the roll of it in the uh in the in the review that I do later on which I had that there for a reason I know but you can't you can't see it because it's behind we'll deal with that L later uh okay so let's go ahead and why don't we just kick things off with our first topic here today sure we'll actually start the show immediately for a change so the 10 most important things from the Microsoft Event this was posted by Matt Woodson on the Forum I'm going to go ahead and pull up the original article here from RS Technica you want to go ahead and throw that Forum Link in there oh I thought you're doing the Forum Link in the chat right okay don't we usually do that no oh well okay then I can handson the surface for pro four is a design that's settled down REI refines almost everything but keeps the basic looking feel of the pro three excellent very nice okay so let's go through what all happened at the event there there goes it train so they announced the Lumia 9950 this is a wind the Windows 10 mobile Flagship it's got a Snapdragon 808 processor which seems to be what the smart smartphone makers are using these days uh we actually have a video up on vessel where I took um a snapd two Snapdragon 810 based phones a Snapdragon 808 based phone an apple A9 based phone and an exos 7420 based phone and liquid cooled them all to find out how much they throttle and how much they're capable of if they don't thermal throttle and both of our 810 based phones were just abominable like it was terrible um tablet class liquid cooling technology as if it needs that with an 808 but whatever it features USB type-c huge thumbs up there I don't even care about about rapid Quick Charge features compared to having a type-c connector okay compared to yeah I was going to say they're pretty cool no no I do care yeah like I've I've actually found myself not being bothered nearly as much by iPhone battery this time around and I don't know maybe I got uh a tsmc chip versus a Samsung chip which is supposed to get better battery or something but uh and I haven't checked I haven't checked what CPU mine's using but I found I'm actually doing really well like I had a 3 and 1 half hour call with someone yesterday and in addition to using my phone like I normally do I've got the Apple watch so I'm paired via Bluetooth all the time and I almost made it to bedtime like it ran out like half an hour before I was going to go to bed that's still so not okay though I know I but hold on but then you plug it in for like 20 minutes and you've got a very significant charge yeah yeah like that that like there's a fail or not fail for me and if you fail you just failed I don't care if it was close you just still failed Droid Turbo 2 is rumored to be coming in about a week so I have already I have already started trying to get my tentacles into either Motorola or dbrand or someone I don't care heck I would even talk to Verizon if it was it's going to be a Verizon exclusive again is is the rumor um but man I am super stroked on that it looks like the battery capacity maybe a touch lower than last time actually but I mean assuming they get a bunch of other optimizations right it could still deliver just exceptional time on anyway back to the Lumia 950 sorry I got distracted by phones that matter oh dang actually Windows 10 mobile has some pretty cool looking stuff so uh yeah USB type-c 32 gigs of storage with a Micro SD slot and launching in November for 5.49 there will also be an EXL version uh featuring the Snapdragon 810 processor hopefully the chassis is big enough to dissipate the heat um with blah blah blah what else changes not a whole lot 5.7 in screen so there are some other devices there's alumia 550 so this replaces the 640 and 640 XL um the surface dock so it's a display to it's a display dock so this will allow you to turn your phones into a PC like experience this is some cool stuff now to be clear because these Snapdragon processors are Arm based you're not going to be you know running freaking split on it and you know game streaming off your phone you won't be running x86 applications but you will still be able to have a very Windows likee Experience and for applications that do have armed versions like office for example you will be able to use those this is something I was wondering about I was actually going to pitch this to you as a lpes video again I've done this before it's probably a terrible idea let's pitch it to you on stream we'll see what you think um I was thinking about like OTG Extravaganza where we take a phone and try to be like could you manage to like go through school with just your phone so use an OTG cable and like Splitters and an inline power so you would want to do it the ghetto way yeah so you try if we get like a keyboard and a mouse maybe even see if we can get that portable monitor running off of it off of like a like a massive battery bank or something yeah well no cuz you're in class you could plug it into the wall yeah I don't know back when I was in school there was a severe shortage of plugs like I went to class with a power bar okay fair enough everyone loved me you could just tell someone else you want to make quick techie friends in school bring a power bar I'm not even kidding that's all you need anyways sorry but I thought it could be fun just like what is the extent you could go and with like modern pretty fast phones that you could have word processors on yeah is it enough to just like take notes with the keyboard and mouse Microsoft wants to be doable out of the box but then you'd have to use a Windows phone yeah and like how much does that thing cost so you have to have a Windows phone and you have to buy this thing my idea is like hopefully you just have to kind of buy the adapters you already have a keyboard and mouse the doc is pretty cool though so it plugs in with the type-c connector and provides ports for HDMI display port and three full-size USB ports so you really could have like a very desktop like experience plugging into this bad boy um other things so the Surface Pro 4 maybe now's a good time to do the live unboxing hopefully it doesn't just fall out my box is very plain I actually got this from the uh the the Vancouver Microsoft folks they dropped it off today the timing is terrible because I ordered one last night thinking that I was just going to have to buy one in order to get one and so you just cancel it yeah yeah no I still can cuz it's it's just a pre-order so I will cancel my order there you go it's the Surface Pro 3 the pen is sort of magneet stuck to it right now I'm actually legitimately not if that's supposed to go there no that's for the uh the uh the type cover so we'll go ahead typ cover is that the typ cover I do have a type cover yes I actually I asked them that too cuz I was legitimately not even going to bother taking the device from them if they didn't have a type cover for it cuz I was just like yeah realistically I can't review a surface device without the type cover anyway so I might as well just wait people are saying three or four or three did I say three sorry no this is a Surface Pro 4 yeah okay so it's a four there we go that snaps on a little something like that it's got a kickstand a little something like that it still closes something like that it's got a couple different like angles and junk so you can do things with it I sort of think I agree so far with uh RS Technica evaluation it not having a Surface Pro 3 in front of me you could just tell me this is a Surface Pro 3 and I would literally never know the difference at all so you've got your mini display port here you got a regular USB connector um over on the other side you got your headphone jack you got your webcam you got your micro SD slot yeah pretty much looks like the same damn thing I've got the 128 mod show the screen disconnect joint the screen disconnect not the same as the old one uh this isn't the Surface Book yeah this is not the Surface Book this is the Surface Pro 4 so this is still just the tablet that I turned off when I went to turn it around and show you guys the screen which whatever let's just get through the specs there will be a review coming I do also have an order in for the top tier Surface Book and I will be reviewing that as well so the Surface Pro 4 12.3 in display with reduced bezels so a bigger screen without actually increasing the device size up to a terab of SSD storage up to 16 gigs of RAM thank you both the Surface Book and the Surface Pro 4 are available with up to 16 gigs of RAM thank you given how much memory a freaking web browser can use these days and don't tell me it's chromes it's all chrome problem all right they're all guilty of it um 16 gigs of round is a must if you are multitasking it features a six gen int Core I5 or i7 I think there's an I3 model actually skyl processor and they're claiming it is 50% faster than a MacBook Air and 30% faster than a Surface Pro 3 but it's battery is its battery life as good as MacBook Air yeah that is a Ser damn that was impressive that is a serious thing to overcome about the MacBook Air if you're going to try and compete with that puppy yeah uh it's got a fingerprint scanner a hybrid cooling system Gorilla Glass 4 and you can call Cortana by holding down the button on the surface pen the type cover is also the thinnest ever it actually that may be noticeable uh it's been a while since I've played with one though and has a 40% larger trackpad that is a noticeable improvement with 5point multi-touch support and the surface book is the first ever twoin one laptop built by Microsoft this really looks like a game changer like I'm somewhat interested in the Surface Pro 4 as you guys know I wasn't a huge fan of the Surface Pro 3 and this looks like very much an iterative Improvement Surface Book on the other hand though that could be a game changer I think that's what people in chat were kind of looking for and I understand that too yeah 13 1 12 in display 267 pixels per inch that is one high resolution screen uh pixel sense for touch sixth generation Skylake processor latest generation Nvidia GeForce GPU they're being very koi I hate that about the graphics processor in it um apparently 620 Microsoft worked with its Xbox team to tunee in graphics performance okay it's advertised at 12 hours of battery life per charge and has a dynamic fulcrum hinge that can accept the screen in either direction so you can have it turned this way for like a laptop or you can turn it around and use it as a tablet and it starts at $1,500 with the highest end model at $26.99 with the unnamed Invidia GPU I am super stoked on this one really excited to see if it throttles because it looks like a really Slim like very beautiful device but maybe thick enough that they actually managed to cool the bloody thing unlike the 2015 retina MacBook yeah um which we got literally double the performance out of when we water cooled it so yeah I don't know I don't really know what else to uh to say about that other than that I think that's about it until we see it yeah I'm like super stoked it's I've pre-ordered the core i7 model so yeah Facebook has a new Universal Windows 10 app that's honestly basically all I have to really say there um yeah it'll work on all your windows 10 platforms and everyone just uses Windows 10 computers so yeah but if you get like a tablet or a phone it'll work on there too it's just so boring yeah uh the Microsoft band is being positioned as the ultimate fitness device everyone wants to sell you a freaking wearable based on Fitness how many people actually work out think about how much uh money you make out of that and honestly so many of them are useless I know if they don't have a heart rate monitor then don't buy it as a fitness device because there's a huge amount of stuff that can count your steps like you can get like a couple dollar things that you just reset every day that can count your steps and you don't have to spend like hundreds of dollars on this crap I don't know you know what Austin was saying this and I think it's pure I mean I think he believes it but like for me it doesn't work at all but he was saying one of the things he loves about the Apple watch is the little Fitness tracking bars like the step tracking and standing bars that are like hey you've only done like 40% of enough for today and every time he looks at it a reminder you can get free apps on your phone but you don't stare at your phone every time you want to know the time well okay you do but okay just just just calm down for a second okay you're less likely to see something else cuz like I don't know about you but droid turbo I straight up do not even have to unlock it to see the time I will legitimately not see anything I really like that about Motorola stuff yeah it's really cool if if the Droid Turbo 2 doesn't have the proximity sensor and like wave to preview my notifications crap I straight up not interested in it that was my favorite thing about that is a killer also why isn't everyone doing this Jester for flashlight I don't even have to like why isn't everybody doing this that's really cool there's a few little things about that film that I love um so anyway here let's do my straw pole results here lonus is Queen do you even work out bro we've got 32% of you saying yes with 42% of you saying no and 27% of you uh weighing in with uh with turnip throw away your vote votes I mean this is one of those things it's like you're trying to sell wearables to like I mean I guess maybe that's it they're not they're not trying to sell them to Geeks no not not specifically yeah because like there's a lot of people that buy does anyone else give a crap wearables that aren't Geeks yeah okay yeah like I have friends of mine that aren't Geeks that want to get a fitness wearable would they buy a Microsoft band it's Microsoft so probably not but Microsoft is probably trying to get there so it's got an OLED screen a curved gorilla glass display apparently there are lots of thirdparty Partners like subway Starbucks Twitter and Uber huh good luck with that um to Subway and run back home it can track elevation with the built-in barometer and it's coming for $249 on October 30th and Uber I understand it's like so you can call a cab but like uber like run for a little bit and then Uber for the rest of your run and then run back home it's like for Halloween I'm going to go as a Microsoft Fanboy with my Microsoft B and oh my God we have to do something for what what when does Halloween happen on the 31st oh my good no Saturday I was wondering what day oh so so we have to the 30th the day before yeah is wano oh we have to do something oh I don't know what to do I'm just so tired lately just tell someone else to figure it out yeah I guess that is the point of hiring people yeah Colton Colton so this is kind of huge huge price tag that is so sad I wanted one so bad and now there's no way I'm going to get one hollow lens Dev kits $3,000 I don't even have to look at the doc to know that it's just so expensive the kits will apparently be fully untethered so no cables or connection to a PC is required so you could trade in your PC no towards buying that Hollow lens dev kit it wouldn't even I don't even think it would cover it no it wouldn't and perspective augmented reality devs can put in an application now so the dev kit is coming q1 of 2016 we were actually just commenting the other day that the whole Hollow lens thing has been extremely quiet lately just completely shut up about it and then now they're talking about it and I want them to shut up again yeah go away figure out a way to make it cheaper go away find some way to make it cheaper apparently Colon's going to figure out Halloween stuff for us okay good all right so that's pretty much it for the uh for the the Microsoft I wish I wish we had more to say about Hollow lens so this article is from gatech.edu edu oh like yeah this is the Georgia Tech site yeah okay so liquid cooling moves onto the chip for denser Electronics this is looking like some pretty freaking cool stuff so micro fluidic passages cut directly into the backsides of production field programmable gate array devices so fpga devices could allow better density of transistors and therefore better uh device Trend uh excuse me uh better device performance per size which could lower costs although we would need to know how much um we' need to know how much this costs to implement and could improve performance as well so if we're not looking at low cost devices then just packing everything in denser could improve performance as well to make this they etched cooling passages into the Silicon incorporating silicon cylinders proximately 100 microns in diameter to improve heat transmission jeez so the information presented on September 28th at the i e conference in San Jose California and like all the like wow that's crazy bananas technology stuff that we talk about we could be looking at years before any of this ever gets implemented if any of it ever gets implemented when things are presented at you see them in a while yeah um apparently with water inlet temperature at of approximately 20° C and an inlet flow rate of 147 you got to stop putting the thing over what I'm reading now sorry sorry sorry I'm trying to I'm I'm reading along and I'm trying to be an active listener 147 millimet per millit per minute the liquid cooled fpga operated at less than 24 de C which is pretty crazy actually that is so cool they don't talk about what that fpga was doing or what is actually disting the heat yeah um so like I I I don't know you know like would your motherboard have the liquid cooling radiator for the CPU like at the back and then like in maybe so yeah yeah we'll cross that bridge when we get to it yeah I mean and and like to be clear fpga is not a like an Intel CPU that totally different class of device that's why I took back my soldered in comment yeah all right smartphones can be hacked into with just one text message and then used to spy on the owners this is according to Edward Snowden the famous whistleblower for the whole NSA shenanigan thing that's been going on for God it's been over a year now hasn't it jeez all right so you about his Twitter account sorry he made a Twitter account which was immediately official so this was obviously planned which was probably smart I'm one thing I was wondering about is does he have a login method just for him does he have a special way to log into Twitter I kind of bet you he does and I bet you his login is monitored like all the time anyways um he had like a huge amount of followers already he's he's following one thing and it's the NSA hilarious anyways so yeah apparently they can be hacked into with just one text message then used to spy on their owners as he said um the government Communications Headquarters GC HQ has a set of tools called the Smurf Suite there's is kind of hilarious there's three of them first one is dreamy Smurf lets the phone be powered on and off nosy Smurf which lets spies turn the microphone on and listen in even if the is off and paranoid Smurf which hides the fact that the phone has been taken over apparently Snowden says that the NSA has spent one billion dollars on similar tools that's where your taxpayer money is going if you're American or UK appreciate that yeah wo let's have a let's have a tax party I think that's what it's called in the whatever eyes thing probably our tax money too oh I know I was just being I was I was just being smug about being Canadian there's nothing to really be smug about it about our tax sell probably that as well with respect to this anyway um Australian researchers make a Quantum Computing breakthrough this is from smh.com.au are you posting the link yeah I got it okay Paving the way for world first chip oo Quantum it could be a real thing now okay again to be clear even if a quantum chip existed you wouldn't be installing it in your home computer for a very very very long time I thought it might be super good once we're able to do that due to like encryption and all this other kind of stuff but um now so basically until now this technology has relied on exotic materials to construct quantum computers making them completely unsuitable for commercial production like we're talking like we have to have it at like this like hugely Subzero temperature and like maintain it like exactly there and then like it'll do something for a bit and yeah proof of concept um but they have apparently patented a way to scale their technology to millions of cubits so that's like Quantum bits uh using standard industrial manufacturing techniques to build the world's first Quantum processor chip so basically their patented design modifies the transistors found in regular computer chips to store zero or one on the spin of a single electron which works like a tiny compass needle so it builds on previous research that produced the first Quantum Computing transistor of this type interesting so they've demonstrated the first time that we can do the first Quantum calculation on a silicon chip working with two of these Quantum bits so stay tuned I guess and to be clear Quantum Computing is not going to be like the be all and end all of oh now we can do like way better 3D graphics for for gaming uh but it's great for things like Luke was saying like encryption for example way faster for that this is kind of and like the idea is if you mess with the data it will change the data so if you try to read it and you're the wrong person I believe it will actually change what the data is so if someone tries to break into your encrypted whatever it won't matter it will suck because if you try to read it later on it'll be changed but it's kind of like the idea of like having your phone wipe itself if it gets read too many times like that's actually a good thing I had to turn that feature off cuz I have children yes yes I've had someone like grab my phone and they just be like and fail a whole bunch of logins I'm like no stop please what are you doing so to to get some idea of of why that is I mean look at CPUs and gpus how they are much better for um hold on a second how they're much better for specific workloads than each other not because like one is just better and the other is worse but because they're optimized for different workloads so I'm going to go ahead and fire up this article from BBC and Luc is going to handle this people topic okay didn't see that coming and yes I know that's not exactly how Quantum encryption Works give me a break it's actually not a bad representation you can go look it up uh if you want to know more about Quantum anything you should probably look more deeply into it than like a couple second description on a w um people sites disappear Creator is still moving ahead with release that is what he opened right yes so the people website is inaccessible for many some just getting a landing page social Outlets such as people's Twitter and people's Facebook pages have been taken down but co-creator Julia cordre is still planning to release the app pushing its release date from November to next week probably just because how much people have been talking about it you got to jump on that hype train as much as you can adjustments to the app include individuals individuals cannot be reviewed without their permission which is probably a good idea um no way to make a negative review at all apparently and review must be approved before it is posted so basically it's just going to be a circle jerk of everyone telling each other that they're great because nothing else is going to get approved um unless people want to be self-deprecating about it Emily laad law a University Calgary assistant law professor says the app could potentially have huge legal ramifications for its creators which is super not surprising she also states that in Canada if you run an app or you're hosting a website and you are informed that you're carrying content that is defamatory um you have you now have knowledge and you have control so you risk liability if you don't take the content down that being said they probably won't run or host it in Canada so that probably doesn't matter but they could there is actually one good hosting company in Canada that I know of maybe a few more than that um so who knows I don't know I can't really open another topic so let me try give me one second what we're going to talk about as lonus comes back um can you open that topic it's hard like around the which one Japan Japan one oh that is so cool yeah I'm like super stoked on this so Japan display 8K 17in l CD bam why are you super stoked on that I don't know it's cool can you tell the difference between a 4K screen at that size um maybe yeah yeah probably 4K and ak8 well okay uh to be fair I heard you talking and didn't read it and heard 7 in and was like why does he care 1 in makes a little bit more sense yes yeah yeah 17 in I mean to to be clear okay okay like that okay like it okay it's just cool because it's like nerdy cool yeah it's cool because it's 510 PPI on a 17inch screen yeah bad this isn't groundbreaking pixels per inch even like Sony's upcoming Xperia Z5 is going to be like 700 but that's not 17 in but it's not 17 in and it's a mere 4K display so it's actually one qu as many pixels as they've managed to build here I got to wonder how much does it cost them to build this thing this is cool though um so the module can actually run at a refresh rate of 120 htz I don't know what they're using to drive this thing because there's no display there's no off-the-shelf display interface in existence that can drive 8K at 60 HZ let alone 120 HZ that and I'm talking I obviously there's other stuff that exists but I'm talking like you know your HDMI or your display port or Heaven forbit DVI or whatever else the case may be um so I have no idea what they're using to drive this thing in fact I've been tempted at CES sometimes to be like okay so that's an 8K TV you're playing back some 8K content can I can I see what's behind here like what is plugged into this how are you running this like it must just be like a proprietary Flash bed like direct to the display interface or something like could you build it as memory into the display maybe maybe like you like if you actually used Ram like if you just had like flash based storage that loaded it into RAM that interfaced directly with the display like I have no idea how they're like 8 8K okay so hold on 8K resolution let's find out what that is so that's 7680 by 4320 Okay so calculator what what what why are these things happening to me calculator okay so 76 80 RCA times no I know a bunch of people are saying that in chat no I can't like no many people are saying that why would that work so this is 33 mega pixels like think think about it if you're if you're like a DSLR photographer so you take high resolution photos even then you're not taking 33 megapixel photos how long it takes just to like open one of them on your computer so we're talking 120 of those per second freaking bananas um sometimes I don't really understand is this a Colton thing like how that gets classified as a main topic and like other stuff gets classified as like a rapid fire topic I don't know I often do not really understand the logic because there's nothing to really say other than like that looks bananas I guess I'll enjoy it in about four or five years still saying RCA the twitch chat is great also I can't believe that you didn't think of having 60 different VGA connections together what why not yeah that's probably it all right so the Dell XPS lineup has been refreshed oh we haven't been saying who's been posting stuff on the Forum so this is from Sir squid the Japan display one is from Good Bites The People site disappearing is from stuarty 211 the Australian researchers with the quantum computer thing is kill comic smartphones being hacked into with just one text message comes from Cyborg warriar and liquid cooling moving on to the chip is from numpad all right so I am sort of stoked on certain things and super stoked on others so the things I mostly don't give a crap about are the XPS 13 refresh and XPS 15 so about those I guess they have slim bezels which is cool that is cool it's cool but the the old XPS 13 that they announced at CES this year had really Slim bezels I reviewed it it was nice the old one that they announced at CES this year well whatever I mean the slightly less the slightly less new one Whatever whatever you want to call it so the 13 and 15 are getting updated processors and packing more storage into their thin frames finally they're available 16 gigs of RAM definitely care about that I ripped on the universal thing I ripped on the 13 so hard for only going up to 8 gigs of RAM considering how much money was getting spent on that computer there's an optional Nvidia gddr5 GPU that can be added to the notebook so they're being koi again so Nvidia basically is like yeah you can uh you can announce it but uh don't tell people what it is or whatever I'm trying to do like a it was supposed to be a cigar I think that came off as weed yeah whatever well I I screwed up the handan thing yeah I made an effort um it's cigar like maybe like or what did you cigar but that's both yeah that's kind yeah I don't know you got to like make sure it's big yeah maybe I didn't make sure it was big enough I mean that could just be like a really big that's true I mean that when when the Blunt's too strong yeah that would be totally totally totally big but then like you were saying earlier in the show it can never be too big around circumference diameter these are good things um so I can have up to one terabyte of PCI Express based storage and I don't know they still have webcams on the bottom of the screen which is kind of a bummer if you have like kind of an upturned nose and you don't want people looking at your brain while they talk to you um okay but the XPS 12 this is the one I care about because I used an XPS 12 for man it must have been like over a year I was using that as my da driver in fact Luke's inherited it now great little device it's been durable it's been rained on it's survived it's got a great keyboard love that device so it is finally getting an upgrade um 12 1 12 inch full HD display with an upgrade to a 4K touchscreen two Thunderbolt 3 ports using USB type-c connectors has support for the Dell pen if you care and uh dell is positioning it as a competitor to the Surface Pro 4 I am super excited because I like the concept of um a convertible that doesn't have a kickstand versus a convertible that does have a kickstand quite a bit more let's see if I can if I can pull up some pictures here new xps2 here we go so it remains to be seen for me if this hinge design is going to light as many fires for me as the uh the old pin wheel design did we can actually we can show that here here so check it out so this is the way the old XP well we broke it a bit when we dropped it broke it a little bit but it it usually like that was that was a pretty good just it it popping out doesn't work as well as it used to yeah it going back in is so you turn it around flip it into a tablet this one is using a bit of a different approach here but um yeah so it's like actually disconnecting and reconnecting but I still like that better than I like the whole kickstand thing because the kickstand is so inflexible like if you're not sitting on a table it's kind of inconvenient like even sitting on an airplane very inconvenient I hate kickstands which which is like if I was going to pitch you know who is the Surface Pro designed for I would go okay you know maybe the traveler but the the airline trays are so slim that you can't actually put your keyboard in the kickstand on the back of it the good news is that I did discover that you can kind of lean it against the seat in front of you but it's definitely not as secure I wouldn't trust it as much um this is huge original article here from The Verge posted by run on the Forum Volvo yeah says it will take the blame if one of its self-driving cars crashes so does this mean you wouldn't have to have insurance no I think you would still need insurance but I think your insurance company would go to Volvo for the claim so there it'll likely be like a convoluted process I'd imagine there's all kinds of legal ramifications here like from one country to another this might be implemented somewhat differently um but basically up until now no one's been willing to step up and say okay if an automated car running in autonomous mode by the way if you crash it they're not taking responsibility for it right so you'd have to have insurance because there's manual mode yes so running in autonomous mode no one has really stepped up and said okay yes we will take responsibility for this you know whether it's your your Google or or your car manufacturer your insurance company or I mean the owner as as sort of a driver I would kind of go oh shoot you know like I don't if I make though I'm probably not as good as a self-driving car I would rather take responsibility for my own actions instead of the possibility of taking responsibility for one others yes thank you that was very succinct yeah so and it's frustrating and that's a huge problem with self-driving cars in general so it's cool that these guys are actually standing up um I would like to see everyone else uh everyone else that's making self-driving cars do the same thing although proving that it was properly in self-driving mode could prove to be difficult good job with it that's cool they want hacking a car um turned into a criminal offense I don't think they'll have a problem doing that but they also need to properly defend their own cars yes uh we saw this problem with Jeep and all that kind of stuff the only ones doing it properly right now are Tesla if everyone takes the same stance as Tesla I'd be okay with that but if people just leave giant holes in the security of their vehicles and they go like well it's illegal it's illegal you probably shouldn't do it then 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Surround Sound thing what I do actually like about that is that it has Dolby Surround Sound and DTS and you can have either one of them on or you can have them off because I do know that there's some people that wouldn't want that touching their sound yep so you can just turn it off so that's a good thing but if you think it's a bad thing you can just turn it off which makes it a good thing I just want to clarify that good job yay uh there's a couple other things that I've already observed about it I did get handson with it although I didn't get to listen to it unfortunately at P um and it's that they actually just they took a common sense approach which seems like the kind of thing that I shouldn't really have to say is amazing it's not super common with gaming headsets though I know so it's a point that is good to make but the ear cups are actually designed in like the shape of a human ear as opposed to whatever types of ears are around like perfect circles to be fair he he yeah he doesn't mean like they they exactly follow the shape of human ear but like they're they're more vertical yeah they're they're shaped in somewhat the shape of a human ear um so yeah I actually I think this is not our wow like showcase sample this is supposed to be my review sample so I'm supposed to be working on a review so stay stay tuned for that but in the meantime if you guys want to check it out there's a link that I posted in the chat I'm going to go ahead and post it one more time and if you guys are watching the archive then the link is in the video description to where you can check it out on Amazon there's also like a how they made it video where I have a very very short comment on the end about how I thought they were oh yeah oh yeah that's right I I didn't want to comment on it in- depth and I'll say basically the same thing here which was I I didn't have direct comparative data to things that I use all the time and I didn't have the music that I use all the time right so I can't like very accurately say exactly how they sound but I was pleasantly surprised for a gaming headset and they didn't if you put it on and didn't tell me it was a gaming headset which you can hide the mic very well so you might have been able to convince me I wouldn't have immediately thought it was a gaming headset which is like pretty good price well I will be uh I will be pulling out all the headphones so so that's the proper audio review you should so take that wait for yeah so this is interesting this is actually it's funny this isn't rapid fire but this is the first thing we've really talked about today that actually has some discussion that we can do about it uh the video game voice actors give the national board the green light to vote to strike if needed so there you go the original article here is from Gamespot and this was an overwhelmingly positive response to the vote here with 96.52% of members voting in favor of the interactive media agreement strike authorization referendum they only needed 75% in order for this to get authorized uh or for in order to give the national board that Authority and so basically what they're coming to the negotiating table with is um let's see so the original agreement was signed in the mid1 1990s and it's still in effect today despite very significant industry changes like we're talking in the days when a game Studio like oh I don't know blizzard would have been a small company um to now Blockbuster games getting as much or more if you look at stuff like Grand Theft Auto 5 spent on them compared to a Blockbuster movie which are three was 80 million too the industry is very very different today and the board is basically asking for a couple of things so better transparency in the addition process for games and they are asking for I think they're asking for some um when the parts that they're that they're doing are particularly strenuous they're asking for limits to how long they can work for uh at a time and they're asking for better compensation including a performance bonus for every 2 million copies SL subscribers sold of a game so that's the part that I want to talk about because who who gets the performance bonus when something does really well I know that there have been cases where actors have negotiated such a thing but it usually comes along with negoti for a low salary to participate in the project bring that up that's that's usually a per case thing usually only the really big actors get it and it's like I think probably I'd say that it's probably less common now due to people seeing how ridiculously epic it was like didn't didn't um I'm going to forget his name which is going to make me a terrible person but the actor that played Han Solo really Harrison Harrison Ford didn't Harrison Ford get a like the copy sold whatever agreement on Star Wars um wasn't that just insane hold on I'm not sure I'm not sure I feel like someone did in that chat I feel like someone did and I don't remember who it was someone in twitch chat is probably already telling us well in between slaying me for forgetting his name yeah people are like oh wow wow no wow Luke is dead to me he forgot Ford oh wow wow wow wow wow how does he not know her Luke lost all nerd cred you are St remember the guy's name on the show I remember Han Solo but I remember Harrison Ford Alec Guinness Alec Guinness it was Obi-Wan Kenobi there we go he did that okay yeah there and then he made like huge amounts of money off of it yeah yeah I'm not convinced he ever worked again uh and apparently Spielberg also got a royalty cut from Lucas um so so anyway the point is if the movie does really well that can be very disastrous for the folks that are investing the actual money into the project I mean with that said it's not like an investment of time isn't also an investment but it gets it gets looked at a little bit differently when we're talking about the actual money that gets paid out when the project gets super successful so companies tend to shy away from agreements like that because it means that they can't really control their costs after the fact so I don't know do do you think it is fair for voice actors to ask for royalties based on how many copies are sold I don't necessarily think that it's fair that that is a guarantee in every single contract right I think that it is fair for them to ask I think it is fair for them to negotiate for right I don't know if as a company I would hire as many voice actors and this is something I think they need to realize if I know that every single voice actor that I hire is going to get a performance bonus for every 2 million copies of the game that I sell and for games that try to strive for having every single one of their characters having an individual voice actor which is awesome that is super cool when you're playing a game that everyone you talk to sounds different right I wouldn't want to pay them each individual one of them out unless it's like 50 cents per which they probably have some extra lines saying that it has to be a certain percentage or whatever so I don't know that makes me a little bit uneasy um but I do think the ability to request it should be there right and I mean quite frankly that probably already exists I mean if you're freaking Samuel L Jackson or something and you're like yep I'm going to want a performance bonus based on what was it in Fallout 3 li niss I think like like there's there's pretty big names that do these voice acting things and I'm sure they could pull for leverage on that if they really wanted to I don't know if I agree with it being in every single contract having more transparency super cool um possibly getting compensated better you know what I want really good voice actors if that helps really good voice actors be a thing cool um yeah I had actually speaking of really good voice actors it's funny um I saw some comments on the um this was posted by booo on the Forum by the way and in the original thread I saw some comments from people saying like oh why are they being such all they do is like sit in front of their microphone and like voice act it's easy it's not as easy as you'd think yeah it's I tried doing there was do it there was skywind skywind is like a a whole bunch of people are trying to develop for skywind and I decided that I would try to do voice acting because they were looking for voice actors to do a whole bunch of different parts and I knew I had like an okay mic it was the snowball wasn't great but like they said on the thing that it was one of the approved mics and I was going to try to get like a ghetto pop filter for it and stuff and I went through the list trying to pick like what could my voice work for in here and I'm like wow nothing oh wow wow and then like found something it would work for did like 80 takes of the one line that I had to do remembering and listening to that line being delivered from the original mowind and then eventually being like nope there's better people they'll do it I suck and moving on yeah I mean especially when you you don't even have any actions to go along with it and you can't even necessarily look at the character doing what they're supposed to be doing like trying to emote in a way that is going to not look and sound completely weird and unnatural when the players experiencing it is not an easy task and you could kind of go oh well you know once they practice it up and get good at it then it's easy for them well you know what that's the investment they made yeah into developing a skill I mean quite frankly here here I'm going to I'm going to blow your mind pretty much everything is easy yeah if you break it down enough is Plumbing rocket science no so why is it that I have to pay someone $75 an hour to come to my house and do it because I don't know how and because that person invested that time into learning how and if I were to go and educate myself on how to do it for the four times in my entire life that it'll ever come up and go acquire all the tools another investment that I would need in order to do it with any standard of quality I would spend more than it cost to just pay someone to do it that is how these things work some people think math is very easy and they're probably just ifed to a certain degree and some people think art is very easy and they're probably Justified to a certain degree and some but not all of those people don't cross over some things are easy for some people and their heart for oh okay well I was talking more in terms of like like practical practical things I wasn't necessarily talking about I wasn't okay by practical I mean things that you like do you don't do math you don't you're not being very helpful I wasn't talking about I wasn't talking about like a high High L thinking conceptual stuff or or subjective art I was talking about things like like Plumbing or things like dryw Walling is drywalling hard not if you know how to do it but you have to actually learn how to oh shut up shut up with your math he just he just he likes ragging on me because I can't do math both of the things you said both have math involved plumbing and drywalling both have math involved all right so our Technica has without math AR Technica has their Android marshmallow review this was posted by Z mule on the Forum um basically brings in a lot of user requested features but still has no update solution I'm glad that ARS brought this up because it really is the Achilles heel of Android right now the fact that there is just no strategy in place to address the way that Apple updates their older devices and that Microsoft is coming out saying yep Windows 10 is like the last windows and I'm sure there's an asterisk in there somewhere but the last until we releaseing other windows yeah um but but but basically it's a statement about support as well where they're saying on notebooks on desktops on phones we want this to be the windows that just kind of you you you do rolling updates to the way that you would with a with a mobile OS um so there's some good stuff there's a new home screen with some genuinely useful features like app search predictive apps and scrolling I feel like we talked about this last week we did yes yeah we covered this last week why the hell is this in the W show dog I don't know um w i I think it's not the first time this has happened but it hasn't happened in a while it's been a bit uh there are some more companies added to the diesel emissions Scandal Mercedes Benz Honda Mazda and Mitsubishi that's not a small amount at all yep so things are getting real here kids so in some uh realistic onroad test some Honda models emitted six times the regulatory limit while some unnamed 4x4 models had 20 times the limit coming out of their exhaust pipes last week uh whoa I'm going to fail at seeing a bunch of these is it Rena Renault Nissan hyai citen Fiat Volvo and Jeep were all that added to the list last week uh I think it's Renault Renault Renault so Renault Renault whatever someone's going to correct us we're going to get slammed I haven't watched enough Top Gear yeah oh we're getting slammed yeah whatever I there goes um so so this is hilarious uh vw's uh North American I want to say president or something like Anyway basically came out and said like like it was a couple of Rogue Engineers who did this behind everyone's back I'm paraphrasing and uh so so yeah and then and then basically just pulled the diesel lineup from North America which is about one in five of the cars that they're selling across VW and Audi in North America so it is it is going to be dark times for VW over the next little bit here and um this is interesting some consumers are are refusing the recall and in California I believe there's legislation that can um cause them to not be able to reregister their vehicle I was going to say you're not they're illegal to be on the road you can't just but in some states there is actually no law in place that would prevent people from continuing to drive the vehicle even though wouldn't they have to pass like environmental stand is that because we have that up here do they not have Air Care is gone oh yes yeah air Care's gone it was dissolved I think last year that doesn't seem like a good idea I don't know um anyway the point is some people citing performance concerns cuz it it will nerf the car a bit are saying they don't want their car recalled they don't want it fixed I don't want your car dumping crap into the air yeah I mean it has been it has been one like there's some there's some more numbers out now I think it's something like 400,000 California has Mission standards but it depends on the state in some states they just don't care I said that I'm clarified oh okay cuz you said you think didn't you oh maybe okay so yes California for sure um anyway so it's something along the lines of 350 or 400,000 cars um I I this was an article I was just reading earlier today it's not I don't have notes on it but um that are using like a first gen engine or something like that that requires not just a software update but also physical changes High larious and then I think it's only the third gen and maybe second gen ones that can maybe be fixed with a software update so this is this is I mean the the the the bottomless the bottomless pit of how much this is going to cost VW just continues to to gape open um yeah this is looking pretty ugly actually some of these topics are kind of boring so I think I'm just going to kind of skim over a lot of them w w what ones are you skimming so I know where to show I don't know kind of kind of a lot of them oh wrecked um oh this is cool so Anon article here the iPhone 6s and 6s plus uh they uh Anon showed some preliminary results that revealed that they are using an nvme SSD which is a huge huge deal they also appear to be using a smart SLC kind of hybrid SLC TLC Nan solution that gives it really fast Burst performance with slower sustained performance something that's not terribly important because you would almost never be writing like huge files continuously that would exceed what the TLC flash is capable of like even recording video continuously is going to be fine it's been measured at up to I think uh I've gotten my notes up to uh uh sequential read speeds in the neighborhood of oh balls no I I don't think that I don't think that number is right so I'm just going to I'm just going to ignore it um sequential reads of okay oh yeah 256 kiloby sequential reads in megabytes per second of 400 Megs per second with sequential rights of 160 megabytes per second so we're talking getting pretty close to an entrylevel SSD controller in here not to mention that because it's nvme random per performance is significantly improved I had been trying to put my finger on cuz I I have not done any actual can't put your finger on thank you objective benchmarks on the iPhone 6s but I've been trying to put my finger on why the crap app launching and switching was so fast and features like the uh the 3D touch to preview web pages why web pages even seem to load faster like everything about this phone is just so fast and I was like yeah the CPU is better but that really doesn't account for enough of the difference in performance it's because the nand absolutely blows away anything that we've ever seen before like here's the graph on an ontech comparing this to so here's the 6 Plus 6s plus up at the top here so the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus were already pretty fast but compared to the Galaxy S6 it's like almost twice as fast that's killer so um so yeah the iPhone yes it's an expensive phone yes Apple charges a lot for phones but this is a conversation that I've been meaning to have on wano for a little bit oops oh look it worked everyone looks at something expensive and wants to use the word overpriced immediately what is overpriced overpriced means you're not getting something for your money compared to what you could get for that money somewhere else if someone's like no this costs more because okay look at the razor blade you could say the razor blade 14 is overpriced okay compared to what compare it to something if you want something that has all the stuff that it has slim design high powered GPU uh that's the only definition of overpriced well what does overpriced mean then if you have a chocolate bar and there's no other chocolate bars that are exactly like that chocolate bar and you charge $50 for that chocolate bar it's probably still overpriced yes because other similar chocolate bars that could have similar features and similar performance in your mouth but what if they don't what if they don't what if it actually tastes 50 times better than another chocolate bar it's not over actually taste 50 times better right because if I just like put chunks of licorice in my chocolate bar no other chocolate bar has that that's a unique feature you cannot get that anywhere else you'd have to tear the chocolate bar apart and put it back together that's not the same that's not an outof package experience therefore you could price it as whatever you want but if you price it $50 it's obviously overpriced okay so bringing it back to you can't just do comparative data for overpriced so bringing it back to your phone has be value but but okay but with the okay fine but let's talk value because that's why I'm saying you have to compare it to other stuff that's out there so if you take the iPhone 6s and you go yeah this costs a lot more than a Galaxy S6 but it has this technology that the other thing completely straight up doesn't have because Apple went and invested in building their own nvme solution they they built their own storage so is it is it it's not off the shelf okay it's kind of like what they did in the iMac uh the iMac 27in retina where they're like okay well nothing can drive 5K so we're just going build our grand for the phone then it would be overpriced overpriced can be independent value can be seen independently yes it should cost more they have put more research into it the thing that is inside is better than the other thing that is inside the other thing it should cost more but it should cost a scalable amount more I'm not even saying you're necessarily wrong for just the phone but saying that overpriced is based off of comparing it to something else that's similar is not technically right something can be overpriced on its own well it can be you have to compare to something to evaluate what if there isn't something to compare to because I didn't say it's not worth it or it's worth it overprice yeah value is is no no no overpriced is okay so here let's take another good example would be um okay like a diamond studded phone okay okay does it cost $50,000 yes is it overpriced if it has you know 40,000 or $45,000 worth of diamonds on it no okay actually diamonds are a bad example because they are by definition overpriced because they're actually worthless okay so let's talk let's talk a solid gold phone then okay so if this if the value's in the gold and there's a reasonable amount of markup then it wouldn't be overpriced right that so it's not overpriced that's what I'm saying so if the feature I wasn't trying to say the same thing not necessarily I wasn't saying that the phone you are talking about is even overpriced that wasn't my argument okay because it might be worth the value because there's like I said technologies that are in it that are better than the other ones so it should cost more because they invested in it and they made it better and then they should charge more for it that's how markets work but saying that something is overpriced solely because you're comparing it to one other thing that you can look at it from more angles than that you were saying that you you determine if something is overpriced by comparing it to something thing yeah you can say something is overpriced if there's nothing to compare it to if I offer a stick well okay that happens to have you would still compare because you would have to compare so let's go back to your chocolate bar you would have to compare it to the cost of Licorice and chocolate that's still a comparison you have to compare to something because otherwise there's no point of reference like how much does Jupiter cost Hollow lens Hollow lens okay it's $3,000 it's $3,000 yeah what if Hollow lens was $50,000 if it was $50,000 $3,000 is like oh but they have a whole bunch of tech in there that might be interesting I don't know how much that cost same thing you have to you have to break it back down not going to cost 50 Grand that would be overpriced won't yeah what are you going to compare it to you would compare it to you can't compare it to the $3,000 version that doesn't exist no no you can't compare it to what's actually in it so is it made of unobtanium then that's what I'm saying so if it has an nvme device in it it's not in the other one it's fine but you don't have to compare it to another phone that doesn't have it in it you have to compare it to what made up the phone okay I see yes you can do that it has to be value there's going to be markups there's going distributions can you can individualize the the problem is that a lot of people don't consider like because if you look at bomb cost a lot of people when they say oh the iPhone is overpriced they don't consider that there's an enormous team of people working on it for a year but they they that's because they're ignorant oh okay what was because there's R&D teams there's distribution there's manufacturing there's there's resale I don't really remember my original point and I don't know what yours is mine was that you were stating the the how how you were like lining up your phrase was not right you're saying everyone's wrong because everyone Compares overpriced this thing CU saying it's overpriced because of whatever I'm going to have to go back and watch the archive and figure out what the crap I said okay my point is that you can't just say something's overpriced because it's expensive yes you cannot say that it's it's that's stupid because really you can't do it yes because something could be very expensive and it could still be a phone and it could not be overpriced because there's whether it's full of gold or whether it is full of a bunch of technology that was very expensive to develop you can you can say that doesn't have a value to me and therefore I will not spend my money on it but that doesn't mean it's overpriced that means you don't want to buy it or you can't buy it because it costs too much for you to justify compared to the other things in your life like for example let's take okay let's let's take the model S great example is it overpriced no is it too expensive for me yes yes is it okay in this context is it overpriced for me sure so like for for my means it's overpriced but that doesn't mean it's overpriced it means it's just expensive so there that's the distinction I'm trying to make the difference between overpriced and expensive deal with it sunglasses and they're not the same thing okay so anyway a lot of people say the iPhone is overpriced but in this context or in this case Apple has delivered something that is truly different and truly unique in spite of the fact that it looks exact like exactly the same thing as the previous damn iPhone it looks like they haven't done a bloody thing but they went they developed a new processor they developed a new storage solution that flips things on that flips the industry on its head in a way that hasn't been done before much like apple went and introduced the retina display and then all of a sudden like the Android handset makers they they never know when it's been enough of a good thing and they're like okay um 1080p uh uh 1440p 4K and then Apple runs and goes meanwhile you idiots are all increasing your freaking screen resolution for no reason we're going to go and make the storage faster which totally makes sense because in computers if you're making a computer for someone who wants to do a lot of the things that you're going to be doing on a phone not everything I know but a lot of the things you're doing on the phone a lot of times in SSD is their biggest upgrade yes and you know it's really funny because people Everyone loves to get pissed off and be like apple never invented anything and you know what in this case Apple didn't invent nvme they didn't invent ssds they didn't invent the concept of fast storage being important but they ran out and they actually did it they put it in a product and no one else had the balls someone in the chat is saying they didn't do that part of it was Samsung it doesn't matter it's in that phone who cares who cares it's in that phone Apple cut the PO yeah apple put their money where their mouth was they ordered the Nan chips they ordered the controllers they invested in the R&D to put it in a phone and they put it in a phone no one else had the balls or the resources or some combination of the two to just do it and that's what it sometimes comes down to you don't have to invent it you just have to do it we didn't invent a weekly podcast no that concept existed since before I like knew how to I don't know I'm trying to come up with something inter host of anything I think got people saying this topic sucks I don't care uh it's my podcast so and his too actually we share a a so we didn't invent the concept of of of a video podcast but we went and did it so we didn't invent the concept of YouTube videos yep I the concept of unboxings nope nope in fact I just did unboxings because I was like I need to do product overviews and I need a keyword that's like somewhat somewhat useful yeah people are like we hate this topic and other people are like I love this topic want to talk about something that we used to hate and that is hopefully getting less worse what are we talking about KN for Speed from EA oh yes this isn't in the dock um but I'll throw the link in the chat and you should be able to Google this pretty easily the one I'm looking at is on PC Gamer just look at PC Gamer KN for Speed you should be able to find it sure um I'll throw it in twitch chat this was like ah I my my brain is like not okay with accepting this but EA looks like they're doing cool things which is good we have to give them credit for doing cool things I just I have trust issues when it comes to EA um are you going to pre-order no I will not um Need for Speed is not going to have any microtransactions in the game they're saying that for sure but they're saying it probably won't have paid DLC so I'm going to go with there's probably going to be paid DLC and car customization is like huge and expansive and awesome and it looks like an old Need for Speed game and that makes me really excited right down to the shiny road yeah that's cool I don't care this this whole time I've just wanted like the old school style Need for Speed games and just I saw I saw an example of someone driving around and the car physics looked ridiculous and I was like yay thank you you know what's really funny about this is that all EA ever had to do to make Need for Speed fans happy is apply their NHL NBA formula to Need for Speed here it is the same game new roster please and they would have people would have actually just been happy every time I played a KN for Speed game back in the day I was like wow this story Line's terrible and I love it cuz that's not the point and I want to not feel bad for skipping cut scenes ever and I just want to go into some crazy race and then have cops chase me for no reason and then have things blow up no reason you're speeding smash into some other car and then be like LOL and just go around the corner and my car is fine anyways and be going so fast in one of the games that grinding against the wall to go around the corner was actually more effective than Breaking KN for Speed that was awesome I'm just trying to picture you getting pulled over by a cop be like there was no reason there was no reason going 200 miles hour yeah all right well I think that pretty much wraps it up for our topics today um yeah I got nothing else thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel vot can't leave the int we have any watch yeah I have to film three fastest posses right now and I also am tired so maybe we'll just do a very\n"