**GTX 980 vs GTX 1080: A Fair Comparison**

When comparing the performance of a GTX 980 and a Founder's Edition GPU, it might seem counterintuitive to choose the slower one. However, this is exactly what we'll be doing in this video. After all, if you wouldn't buy the slower card, why test it against the faster one?

The Founder's Edition card we're using for these tests is not a variant of the GTX 1080, but rather a unique GPU that was never released to market versions. And, surprisingly, it costs about the same as a 1080 on the second-hand market. So, why not test them against each other?

Unfortunately, our GTX 1080 used for this video is not a Founder's Edition card. It's actually a Pallet Super Jet Stream card, which features a beefy cooler. We'll have to keep this in mind when looking at the benchmarks.

**System Specifications**

The system we're using for these tests features an Intel i5-7600K CPU, overclocked to 4.5 GHz. I know that this might cause some CPU bottlenecking in certain situations, but it's the best gaming CPU I have available, and there's not much I can do about that.

We're also using 16 GB of RAM for these tests.

**Testing Methodology**

In all of the games we're testing, we'll be using Ultra presets at three popular resolutions: 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. Unfortunately, we couldn't test ultra-wide resolutions since I don't have an ultra-wide monitor. This should still give us a good representation of how these GPUs perform in relation to each other.

As for drivers, we'll be using the latest Nvidia driver available for the GTX 1080, and the Gaming drivers that were available for the Vega GPU at the time of filming this video.

**The Benchmarks**

Now that we've covered our testing methodology, let's move on to the benchmarks. We know that some people might say, "He didn't undervolt the Vega GPU, so there's a big performance difference." But the thing is, I had issues with undervolting my graphics card during these tests.

I followed the same steps as gamers Nexus did in their review of the Founder's Edition card, but I couldn't get similar results. This highlights the fact that the under-volted performance you'll get from this GPU is subject to the Silicon Lottery, and if you get a bad card, you have a bad card.

**The Issues with Undervolting**

I had trouble getting a stable undervolt on my Vega GPU, even after following the same steps as gamers Nexus. I ended up crashing in benchmarks occasionally, and it took me two and a half hours to get a result that was remotely stable.

This just goes to show that the under-volted performance figures you see on other people's reviews might not be replicable on your own graphics card.

**Conclusion**

The Vega Founder's Edition is not a gaming GPU. It's a workstation powerhouse, and if your workflow requires this kind of GPU, then it's worth considering. However, for gamers, there are better options available, like the Vega 64.

Just remember that undervolting can be hit-or-miss, and you might not get the same results as other reviewers. So, don't expect to replicate their under-volted performance figures on your own GPU.

Thanks for watching, and if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to share them in the section below!

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to the drivers that are used for these tests I use the latest Nvidia driver available for the GTX 1080 and then for the Vega I use the Gaming drivers that were available for this graphics card at the time of filming this video and now finally let's look at the benchmarks and then after the benchmarks we'll have a quick discussion about overclocking and look at a couple overclocked benchmarks as well now I know that everybody's first response to these benchmarks are going to be well he didn't undeveloped the Vega GPU and that's why there's such a big performance difference but the thing is the reason I didn't include the under-voltage performance figures in the main benchmarks was because I was having really weird issues under vaulting my graphics card now I know that gamers Nexus did a review on their founders edition card where they kind of broke down the steps that they went to get an under vault and under vaults table and I actually followed those steps to the tee but I couldn't get merely the same result that they did which highlights the fact that the under vaulted performance that you're gonna get from this graphics card is subject to the Silicon Lottery and if you get a bad card you have a bad card so I didn't think it was fair to include a result which was gonna be subject to Silicon Lottery now I did do a couple of benchmarks while under vaulting the graphics card and I actually overclocked the GTX 1080 as well just to kind of have an apples to apples comparison and honestly the undervolt didn't make a huge difference it took me two and a half hours to get a result that was remotely stable on the Vega and it's still crashed in benchmarks occasionally now with that brief explanation of the troubles I had under vaulting in my Vega GPU it kind of brings me to the end of this video and honestly it's not a gaming graphics card the Vega founders edition is a workstation powerhouse and you know if your workflow requires this kind of GPU and if it doesn't don't get it for gaming because it's not worth it try out a Vega 64 because that may undervolt more stable e but again the under vaulting figures that you see on other people's reviews you're not necessarily gonna get those figures on your own graphics card so just bear that in mind anyway thank you very much for watching if you like this video do like and subscribe to this channel for more videos like this one follow me on Instagram and Twitter for well more Dafa does tech stuff and until the next videoAMD Vega frontier Edition versus the GTX 1080 Pascal vs. Vega in 2019 now it's been said time and time again that AMD graphics cards age like fine wine they just get better and better with new driver updates so that's why I decided to put the Vega Frontier Edition versus the GTX 1080 in 2019 now you can get a Vega founders Edition for about $400 on ebay if you're lucky and it's about the same story for a GTX 1080 so in that case a gtx 980 and Founders Edition should perform fairly similarly otherwise why would you buy the slower one and then in regards to the graphics cards that are used for these tests well there is only one version of the founders edition card that was never off to market versions of it and honestly it isn't really a gamer GPU but it costs about the same as a 1080 on a second-hand market now so why not test them against each other and then we're looking at the version of the GTX 1080 that I used for this video unfortunately it's not a Founders edition card it's actually a pallet super jet stream card which has a really beefy cooler on it so we do have to keep that into account when looking at the benchmarks now before we look at the benchmarks I just do a quick breakdown of the system that I tested these two GPUs in now I used an Intel 7600 K which is an i5 CPU that's been overclocked to 4.5 gigahertz now I realize that this may cause a CPU bottleneck in some 1080p situations but honestly it's the best gaming CPU I have at hand and there's not much that I can do about that and then the system also has 16 gigs of RAM and in regards to how I actually tested these graphics cards I used Ultra presets in all of the games at the three most popular resolutions which is 1080p 1440p and 4k unfortunately I couldn't do ultra wide resolutions because I don't have an ultra wide monitor and honestly this will still give you a good representation of how these graphics cards perform in relation to each other and then when it comes to the drivers that are used for these tests I use the latest Nvidia driver available for the GTX 1080 and then for the Vega I use the Gaming drivers that were available for this graphics card at the time of filming this video and now finally let's look at the benchmarks and then after the benchmarks we'll have a quick discussion about overclocking and look at a couple overclocked benchmarks as well now I know that everybody's first response to these benchmarks are going to be well he didn't undeveloped the Vega GPU and that's why there's such a big performance difference but the thing is the reason I didn't include the under-voltage performance figures in the main benchmarks was because I was having really weird issues under vaulting my graphics card now I know that gamers Nexus did a review on their founders edition card where they kind of broke down the steps that they went to get an under vault and under vaults table and I actually followed those steps to the tee but I couldn't get merely the same result that they did which highlights the fact that the under vaulted performance that you're gonna get from this graphics card is subject to the Silicon Lottery and if you get a bad card you have a bad card so I didn't think it was fair to include a result which was gonna be subject to Silicon Lottery now I did do a couple of benchmarks while under vaulting the graphics card and I actually overclocked the GTX 1080 as well just to kind of have an apples to apples comparison and honestly the undervolt didn't make a huge difference it took me two and a half hours to get a result that was remotely stable on the Vega and it's still crashed in benchmarks occasionally now with that brief explanation of the troubles I had under vaulting in my Vega GPU it kind of brings me to the end of this video and honestly it's not a gaming graphics card the Vega founders edition is a workstation powerhouse and you know if your workflow requires this kind of GPU and if it doesn't don't get it for gaming because it's not worth it try out a Vega 64 because that may undervolt more stable e but again the under vaulting figures that you see on other people's reviews you're not necessarily gonna get those figures on your own graphics card so just bear that in mind anyway thank you very much for watching if you like this video do like and subscribe to this channel for more videos like this one follow me on Instagram and Twitter for well more Dafa does tech stuff and until the next video