An Awkward Thanksgiving - This is Only a Test 593 - 4_1_21

The Excitement of Going Back to Theaters: A Fan's Perspective

As I sit here thinking about the future, one thing that comes to mind is how much I miss going to theaters. There's something special about being in a crowded room with strangers who are all there for the same reason - to experience a movie on the big screen. It's a shared experience that can't be replicated at home.

I'm also counting down the days until I can go sit in a theater again. The thought of finally getting to see my favorite movies on the big screen, surrounded by other fans who share my enthusiasm, is what gets me through these tough times. Whether it's a superhero blockbuster or a indie film, there's something about the theatrical experience that just can't be beat.

The prospect of seeing new movies in theaters has me even more excited than usual. I'm talking about films like "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World" and "Guardians of the Galaxy," which are perfect for a big-screen experience. The special effects, the music, the energy - it all comes together to create an immersive experience that's just not possible at home.

Of course, one movie that I'm really looking forward to seeing in theaters is "Eternals." With its impressive cast and stunning visuals, I think this film would be perfect for a big-screen debut. The theatrical experience would do it justice, and I'm eager to see how the filmmakers have chosen to showcase their vision on the big screen.

But let's not forget about the importance of vaccines in getting us back to theaters. As someone who's been waiting patiently, I can confidently say that being vaccinated will be a major factor in my decision to go back to theaters as soon as possible. There's nothing like feeling safe and secure while enjoying a movie with other people.

For me, it's all about the experience. Whether it's a Marvel movie or a Disney film, there's something special about seeing these stories come to life on the big screen. And let's be real - some movies are just meant to be seen in theaters. That's why I'm so excited for "Black Widow" and other films that will be hitting theaters soon.

But what about when we can't see our favorite movies at home? What if they're not available until much later, or if we simply want the experience of being in a theater? For me, it's all about taking advantage of opportunities to see these movies on the big screen. Whether it's "The Eternals" or another film, I'm willing to go out of my way to experience it in theaters.

In fact, even if there are options available at home, such as renting a theater for $100, I would still want to attend a movie in theaters. There's just something about the energy and excitement of being surrounded by other people who share your passion for film that can't be replicated at home.

Of course, not everyone shares my enthusiasm for going back to theaters. But for those who do, it's all about making the most of our time and taking advantage of opportunities to see our favorite movies on the big screen. Whether it's a blockbuster or an indie film, there's something special about experiencing these stories in theaters.

The Excitement of Going Back to Theaters: A Fan's Perspective

As I sit here thinking about my plans for when we can finally go back to theaters, one thing that comes to mind is what movies I want to see. For me, it all starts with "Guardians of the Galaxy," which is always a great choice.

If I had to choose a movie to watch in theaters right now, I would say something like "The Eternals." With its impressive cast and stunning visuals, I think this film would be perfect for a big-screen experience. The theatrical experience would do it justice, and I'm eager to see how the filmmakers have chosen to showcase their vision on the big screen.

But what about when we can't see our favorite movies at home? What if they're not available until much later, or if we simply want the experience of being in a theater?

For me, there's one movie that stands out as something I would want to see in theaters. That movie is "Eternals." The theatrical experience would benefit from it greatly, and I feel like this film would be perfect for a big-screen debut.

Of course, not everyone shares my enthusiasm for going back to theaters. But for those who do, it's all about making the most of our time and taking advantage of opportunities to see our favorite movies on the big screen.

I'm also thinking about what movies I want to see in theaters after we've been vaccinated and can go out safely again. For me, that first movie would be something like "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World." Seeing this film on the big screen would be an experience unlike any other, and I know it would be a great way to welcome us back to theaters.

But what's really important is finding out what movies are coming out soon. For me, there's nothing more exciting than seeing posters and trailers for upcoming films and imagining how they'll look on the big screen.

The prospect of going back to theaters has me even more excited than usual. I'm talking about films like "Guardians of the Galaxy" and "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World," which are perfect for a big-screen experience. The special effects, the music, the energy - it all comes together to create an immersive experience that's just not possible at home.

In fact, even if there are options available at home, such as renting a theater for $100, I would still want to attend a movie in theaters. There's just something about the energy and excitement of being surrounded by other people who share my passion for film that can't be replicated at home.

But what does this all mean? For me, it means making the most of our time and taking advantage of opportunities to see our favorite movies on the big screen. Whether it's a blockbuster or an indie film, there's something special about experiencing these stories in theaters.

The Excitement of Going Back to Theaters: A Fan's Perspective

As I look ahead to the future, one thing that comes to mind is how much I miss going to theaters. There's something special about being in a crowded room with strangers who are all there for the same reason - to experience a movie on the big screen.

For me, it's not just about seeing my favorite movies on the big screen, but also about experiencing the energy and excitement of being surrounded by other people who share my passion for film. Whether it's a Marvel movie or a Disney film, I know that there's something special about these experiences that can't be replicated at home.

But what does this all mean? For me, it means making the most of our time and taking advantage of opportunities to see our favorite movies on the big screen. Whether it's a blockbuster or an indie film, there's something special about experiencing these stories in theaters.

As I look ahead to the future, I know that one day we'll be able to go back to theaters again. And when that day comes, I'm excited to experience all of my favorite movies on the big screen with other fans who share my enthusiasm.

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thing as a happy april well there will hopefully be this go  starting starting going forward but you heard our special guest this week davindra hardware  thank you so much for joining us thank you and uh sitting in for sure and jeremy jeremy's here  wearing his star-lords t-shirt repping the project how you doing jeremy i'm great thanks for being on  the show davindra it's always great to have you no problem yeah how are things going uh in your  lockdown world as things are going back hopefully to normal a little bit what's uh what's been going  on in the world of engadget a little bit um you know we are i feel like everyone's rushing around  just trying to get their vaccine appointments if they can um i'm currently half baxed so  i'm excited about that and we are just like and beyond that it's like you know it's work as always  i'm talking a couple companies they have some news coming up in the next few weeks um  we're all waiting for whatever that apple event is going to be i'm reviewing a bunch  of things i'm reviewing actually my first car for engadget um oh wow this is robbie robbie  the sienna the 2021 so that's going to be fun yeah this is the parent mobile this is the paramobile  the dad mobile that's kind of what i'm uh i'm looking for like the ultimate dad car and this  thing is kind of it probably i've seen the ads for it where it's like they they take around  clubs and the party scene and it's like you can do more than just be a parent with this uh i i will  you know yeah i think a lot of people are kidding themselves but it's a really nice minivan you know  i confess um and this is something i i jeremy you might you'll definitely have more insight into you  know the minivan life seems more appealing when you have more than one child in new york exactly  in your life yeah davinci are you ever you have one kid right now two and a half year old um not  really prepared for two at any point soon but even with one kid it's like a car seat takes up so much  room uh our normal car is a 2017 rav4 hybrid which is a nice car but not a big car you know it's not  a highlander so it takes up seat space there's not as much trunk space as we need sometimes so  i see the benefit of something like a minivan for sure especially if you have a lot of kids like i  grew up in a i spent a couple years with my with my dad and stepmom and we were a family of six  people and we had a minivan and it was where how we got around and it was a perfectly legit perfect  way to do it uh we i have two kids and we're not planning on having more so that's i think  any standard car suits us and you're well your kids are out of the uh the car seat car seat phase  i mean they're booster seats for sure but you know you don't have to worry when you're shopping new  for a new car and the word on the street jeremy is that you're you got your eyes looking forward  to on on the horizon for potentially a new vehicle like that's not a minivan is not a consideration  like like that the intersection between that and electric vehicle like you don't have to make that  choice right no i mean they got the the tesla model y with the third row you know which that's  that's a joke that's not i'm not a real third row no no no well i mean we're go for ants that's who  it's for well for children yes if you have no like if you're if you have no knees or no lower  like half your leg then maybe yeah yeah isn't that one of those things where if you have the  third row it's like built in permanently you lose all the benefits you lose all the trunk space  now let's be fair that's not true i did look into this the trunk space is not sacrificed  you in fact get a little cavity underneath like the floorboard in the in the in the  rear if you don't have that rear seat but it doesn't actually take up much storage space at all  it's uh you know having that third row it does fold down and it looks like it's not  even there so i'm waiting for reviews on this yeah it's the same as as the the regular one  but uh that third row does have usb jacks oh okay okay those ants are set  i i will say that uh a double car seat life makes having a normal size sedan very cramped  oh man yeah and i have just equipped my car with the the second car seat uh so that that is will  be in use in the next four days or so when we did that we took the car to the fire department  because they do like free inspections on did you do it right yeah yeah and it's so hard to do it  right too because they're they're such a pain to install so yeah it hurts my back every time yeah  this is one of the things i figure for the first kid yes absolutely for the second kid we're doing  this everything feels like ah you probably already know the odds are in our favor we're all right  and that is why the second child is always better adjusted oh yeah yeah this is personal experience  absolutely they're not the subject of constant you know panic absolutely oh my gosh okay well  you know the the lead here in burying is uh as we're recording this the april first is going  to be important to uh my life hopefully going forward because we are having our second child  today as you're listening this we're recording this on the 31st but you know you're actually  in the hospital recording live that's how you know what i think they apparently they have good wi-fi  there's a tablet and a big 65-inch tv from what i heard you know i can still get caught up on on  falcon the winner's soldier you know we're we're gonna bring ipads yeah i'm we're not  gonna do godzilla versus kong there uh but yeah i'm taking a couple couple weeks off so  uh we'll feel i might have might have an episode next week with um some archival audio but let's  get right to it um because we are uh tight on time uh so let's get right to our top stories  top story this week i'm assuming the music is played and i'll edit in post completely jacked  don't worry about it everything all right so uh we are getting close to hopefully  we can see a normal world in sight right like the avenger you got your first shot you know we  just announced in california uh as of uh uh april 15th are all adults or 16 and older will be able  to get their vaccination shots people are you know looking forward even though you know we still were  planning on wearing masks and but we can't help we can't help but think about what life will be like  you know being able to do a little bit of traveling and the other people can't help but  think about this are event organizers so we had a flurry of news this week some related to tech some  pop culture but the big one i think that warren's discussion is comic con which normally would  be held in san diego in late july has made the announcement that they're going to do an in-person  the biggest north american comic book pop culture event they're going to do it in november  thanksgiving weekend now there are two ways to discuss this one you know is that too soon is that  what does the world look like then i feel like there's one way to discuss this  and two the timing of it being thanksgiving yeah weekend and people's plans i think that's probably  the the more uh the more relevant thing because hopefully by the time that would be after if  new york comic-con happens in october you know we assume some events are gonna be going on but what  a date and time to choose this davinci you've been to comic con you do comic con right i have  it's actually man it's probably been like 10 years since i did comic con and that was like the heyday  of when marvel was there and all the studios were there right and like they were pushing as  like this big thing because uh they need to push the mcu so i think it was there for the debut of  the whole you know avengers lineup and everything that was fun like that's the mark ruffalo reveal  yeah like there was so much good stuff there but i haven't been there in a while and honestly it  seems like studios are paying less attention to it i love comic-con ass like this geek gathering  but for anything this year a large gathering not sure if it makes sense and certainly um  thanksgiving weekends just just seems boneheaded i don't know what they're doing with this decision  the only thing i can think of is that it's going to be a southern california-only event right  right they're calling it a three-day event friday saturday sunday so presumably if you're based out  of southern california san diego or los angeles where hollywood is based and uh mostly like  san diego like it's kind of like disneyland where a lot of the attendees of disneyland  are local orange county or la residents who have annual passes that makes up a significant number  of those attendees comic-con used to be i think quality is a big international convention it  used to be a thing really the hometown big san diego socal convention and they could make the  case that if people are going to be in town in socal for thanksgiving spend family thursday with  spend you know uh thursday with family friday or saturday their big day stop by buy a ticket  go to comic-con the thing that's going to suck for our vendors and the big studio is because  those people aren't necessarily those girls aren't necessarily based in southern california and it's  a bigger commitment for them to set up these events the people who not just put on comic-con  but all the organizers around the movies all the promotional people the marketing people the  booth setups right those are that's extends well beyond the uh the opening and closing of the event  if they're going to have in person that basically kills their entire holiday plus airfare presumably  is going to be incredibly expensive because people are going to be wanted they're going to want to be  traveling the first big holiday this year after a year of not traveling and a lot of those vendors  are desperate for work and so it's going to be something that they're really compelled to do  it's not like they can just blow this off right well not only are they desperate i mean and some  vendors have kind of figured out ways a lot of the studios who would normally have to pay the event  fee they would pay not only comic con to have that time slot because it's such a news making event  but they also have to pay the the the building fee the unions for all the setup uh that's it's a huge  cause like it's probably in the six figures to be at comic-con present there but vendors  space on a normal year comic-con is scarce like having a booth  registered and locked in or even table space as an artist that is precious real estate you have  to think of it almost as real estate and if they don't re-up every year they lose the spot and it's  expensive to re-up to to travel there to buy the census or some then there's a sublet their their  boot space or share booth space but this is kind of like comic con telling vendors if you  don't show up if you don't pay to spend your thanksgiving at our convention you might  lose the opportunity to have your valuable booth space at next summer's comic con or going forward  and that's probably a bigger cost long term for a lot of these exhibitors are they renting the same  amount of of convention center space they haven't said yet we don't know what panels will be like  it will be at san diego convention center which is currently a vaccine site now right like i  think that is a mass vaccine site so i mean that's your comic-con folks go dress up as your favorite  character and get your vacs yeah and i i i don't know how like spacing wise i could see it being  much more spacious i've been to conventions where there weren't enough exhibitors to fill  out the space and rather than just have like an empty you know curtained off area with just empty  exhibit hall they make the lanes wider and that's been really nice from uh just browsing and  shopping uh experience so you're not kind of elbowed to elbow i could see it being that way  i don't know if they're they haven't announced whether they're gonna be limiting capacity  whether there'll be any type of checks you know because right now previous years you'd have to  do a badge check out the door so i could see them building in some type of temperature check  um a useless temperature yeah exactly yeah yeah i mean we all the big question up in the air is  we just don't know what the united states will look like like we hope things will be going well  but there's just so much uncertainty and to make this announcement to me it also feels like they're  doing it because they have to because of some type of contractual obligation with the venue with the  city of san diego maybe they had to do something before the end of the year right and this is like  the one of the last times you can really lock something in before the holidays and  before nobody wants to travel yeah yeah oh god what a what a terrible weekend  to do that right thanksgiving weekend uh yeah i think we're all on the same page with this being  uh not yeah more like thanksgiving comic-con yeah very good very good um all right i mean  there are other events we're talking about and it's all i i hope to personally be at  some events by the end of the year um you know maybe local ones and all depends uh it'll be a  case by case we're gonna i don't plan on six months in advance booking hotels and buying  tickets and registering for anything and kind of really seeing you know a month out what things  what things look like but in my mind how do you guys feel about theaters by the way like post  backs like just in terms of doing things again that's the thing i miss the most i'm a cinephile  i do a movie podcast and i really miss being in a theater every single week of this year you know  of the year when we started when kovid broke out we we got ourselves a ping pong table and we got  ourselves a home theater so i i picked myself up a nice new oled and a kick-in sound system  and i have i would be happy never going back to being honest with you i honestly like every time  i plan to go to the movies with my family it's exciting we get to the movie theater we get our  snacks we take a seat and then the whole movie i sit there being easily distracted by everyone  else and if they're looking at their phones or eating or talking yeah and uh that to me is just  made the moviegoing experience a lesser thing than watching things at home especially now that i have  the kicking setup so i i've been arguing for show after show on this podcast that let's just  let's just let the movie theaters go away and let them become a thing of the past how dare you no  why not both they're not mutually exclusive the business models i've had like a good  kicking system for a while right like i've had a projector set up i have an oled and really really  great speakers i still went like in new york i was going to theaters all the time because  um there's nothing like the indie theater crowd there's nothing like going into like a full-sized  dolby cinema or even a full-size imax right and that's the thing i sat here at home watching tenet  you know on 4k blu-ray and the whole time i was like man i i bet this movie would be 10 times more  enjoyable if it was like towering in front of me right like just looking at some of those scenes so  i i feel you jeremy but i also like i love theaters and we we i think we were going to  have a big resurgence of communal activities like we're going to miss it as a society so they're  going to have a comeback not every chain will survive but i yeah i'm just so you don't care so  much to jeremy but uh norm like what do you think 100 i can't wait it's it's an escape from scott  oh my god the remaster i mean i think about the best cinematic the best  theater experiences and these are like things that are ingrained in my memory even like  you know the vr cinemas that i've done where yes you can fill up your field of view it's not the  same watching avengers end game opening weekend and yeah i i buy into the energy of the crowd  right and and you take every experience is a gamble because there are going to be crowds  where someone's going to be distracting or it's going to track but it's i'm buying into that  i'm taking that risk i i think it's a net positive the moment when cap pulls up mjolnir and yeah like  you literally feel physically feel the energy it's pretty crazy the audience right i mean that's what  the filmmakers are designing these scenes for i'm not i mean yeah i'm high vibing my wife at that  moment at home also it's not quite the same as like feeling everyone just like jaw-dropped or  quiet right the stillness of a crowd for like a really intense high tension scene watching that  quiet place in theaters to be honest like a movie that is all about silence i was lucky  enough to see it at an alamo right so that i think people were generally good there but  alamo's the worst dude they're walking in front of you with food the entire time that's annoying  that is annoying i agree i think their their holier than thou attitude when it comes to uh  crowd noise is funny because all they're serving is more annoying than people on phone sometimes  i agree with you by the way that tenant was underwhelming and maybe maybe it was  because it was yeah but if it was a hundred feet in front of you oh boy maybe four by  three aspect ratio really sell sells when you have a when you have 100 foot imac screen or  not just the 65 or 73 inch you you may have it at home yeah i'm really looking forward to it um and  i think the studios are as well and then you see the hbo max you know deal this year with  yeah same day and date for theaters and the hbo max release with some exclusivity windows going  forward we've given their deal with regal cinemas but also you know disney right disney cave you're  gonna have black widow you're gonna have corella b disney premiere and i'm happy for some of those  movies to pay the 30 bucks and watch it at home uh yeah the option of versailles the choice i i think  uh as long as it makes financial sense for the business of show uh the the choice is better for  consumers overall do either of you think within our lifetimes virtual reality will be able to  deliver on the movie going experience that you want but at home now i've i've i i'm sure you've  tested a ton of them too norm but i right behind me i have every single vr headset that's been  released you know and i've i've been to a lot of those experiences and i like them i like them  quite a bit but i they're uncomfortable they're not easy to wear maybe if we have like light ar  glasses eventually and they can somehow simulate good surround sound maybe that's good but again  that's you alone with a pair of glasses you know in your house somewhere um there isn't any energy  to the crowd right and and i think that's that's a question of immersion there's the immersion of the  media on the screen and how close these headsets can approximate the full audio and visual  experience of what the filmmakers and has have made and then there's the social aspect and yeah  i think we'll reach the the media parity first of it feeling you know better than you know the  vr headset i have now honestly the resolution is probably better audio quality in uh baby  video quality than a then like the hometown small cinema that had that the valve index  index is a beautiful screen you know yeah and we're going to get better that you know in the  next 10 years abs in our lifetimes absolutely but unless we're plugging into the matrix after  full sensory smells and and feels like literally my like the tingling i'm getting like the cold  air all of that like and and just the inability to disconnect from it the attention your focus  right like that i think is all part of the quote-unquote cinema experience and  on completely with you that cinema had that experience has changed over the years yeah  right 50 years ago that the audience you know people wore suits to go to you know they're  dressed up to go to the movies right right and we don't have that now but the the that type of like  the same i think you'd say the same with sports you know the the the the benefits of that social  um camaraderie and the social aspect of that group experience i don't think vr will now get near i  mean we'll replace that yeah i just came out of a couple of film festivals actually i did sundance  and they had a big vr component i wrote that up in gadget i did a bit of south by southwest uh in vr  and none of them had virtual screenings you know like actually see things where you could sit  down and watch a movie uh even though you could see other people walking around those virtual  environments and to be honest south by just kind of broke my heart in vr and i wrote about that too  actually because it was so it was so lonely it was so desolate you know and when you guys go to south  by um it's a vibrancy like the vibrancy of south by the like pure energy it is pop culture it's  movies it's music it's tech it's everything all at once doesn't have any of that you know so it  really made me miss that idea of even just walking around austin and being assaulted by all this  stuff you're talking about all the experiential stuff that happens yeah outside of the parameters  of the the media and you know apps like big screen have lobbies and and a lot of the social  environments have places for people to congregate uh but that all that should be factored in you're  not just going for that hour and a half two hour duration of whatever you're watching it is the  water cooler you're going to a bar or a restaurant after the fact and then definitely and and  even the line waiting the line waiting right that i feel and i know this is personal preference and  it may not be everyone's taste but uh i do think it adds to that whole it kind of does communal  experience it's the anticipation uh i bro when we were due in south i think two years ago when  us premiered jordan peels us i pretty much roped the entire engadget crew to come and like wait  in line with me for two hours we got to the edge of the line and they shut the theater  like they're like we're at capacity now so that was a heartbreaking moment but also it's something  i remember and we all had a lot of fun just like sitting and talking to people and trying to do  some work while sitting on the sidewalk so it was it was still fun even though it broke my heart  yeah but anne don't worry jeremy yeah hbo max subscribers you might watch godzilla versus kong  at home the matrix sports whatever space cam 2. hey i tried to talk my 14 year old into watching  the earlier kong movies the ones that came out in the past decade are they are they good 2014  the 2014 one is worth watching it is yeah it's such a good words it's uh you know he went on to  direct rogue one uh and yeah he did that one has some really the there's a great skydiving scene  and the music is fantastic in that the screaming the script is a mess but yeah yeah uh the call  of the uh sorry the conscious skull island i love that movie that one was uh the cinematography that  movie movie is uh this larry fong who did who's a zack snyder's cinematographer with watchmen 300  and so he captured like watching all the colors of the vietnam era really really well that one's a  great one to watch on a big home oled screen good all right thanks for the backup i'm going to give  this another shot do not watch the in between godzilla how about that king of the monsters  i feel like is a complete waste of time okay yeah there are characters that show up in the next one  so yeah that one was worth watching for in imax because yes again if you see kidora in in imax  right that that's size appropriate kaijus work well in in imax screensuh i'm gonna play the music after the fact we're not gonna go so we're gonna write into  pop culture news and the thing we're gonna talk about of course is falcon and the winter soldier  uh episode two premiered last week uh presumably you guys have watched it it yep yep okay okay i'm  gonna pop on the spoiler light we'll do a little bit of a uh spoiler-free impressions first uh  what'd you think of episode two compared to the first one this is already a third of the way into  the series uh avenger uh you know i'm really digging it i do feel like um i'm glad they  finally you know brought bucky and falcon together in a way uh it's a it's a messy show but i do  appreciate that you know it's coming from a black showrunner who has a distinct point of view in  terms of how he's presenting this character and this show is essentially all about how falcon is  kind of existing as somebody who could be captain america but also is still facing pretty much all  the prejudice that you know he would as a black person in america uh not all those bits work  i think some of it's kind of hokey to be honest but i like i still like the interplay between him  and bucky i think it's fun overall and the action um especially coming from one division like the  action is just so kinetic and really interesting the skydiving stuff from the the first episode  beautiful stuff i don't quite understand why you would skydive into helicopters with rotating  blades doesn't make much sense uh and also the uh was it the true the truck stuff you know i love  like high impact high velocity action and this show's at least doing that really well um and yeah  once we we learn who this uh this next captain america is i think it's kind of hilarious and he's  an interesting character too i don't know if you guys are doing spoiler warnings or anything but  interesting to see that character in that role yeah yeah yeah jeremy are you a marvel  fan of indra like are you are you reading into this do you have more information than  say i would who did not grow up reading the comics at this point in the show i grew up reading x-men  you know it was really just x-men and some x-men not all of it so i am of of the comic universes  i am more marvel than dc but i don't have like a huge amount of inside information here i did just  read some stories about like oh what this uh this other captain america who he could be and what  that character could be but i didn't come into the show knowing that gotcha gotcha i i agree 100 with  defender i think it's it's a great show it's what i was looking for from from my marvel tv show to  begin with um you know one division i thought was really interesting but you had to sort of buy into  it and be patient and there was a payoff but it took a while whereas this just grabs you this is  like a marvel movie cut into six parts and aired once a week and uh it's working for me in a great  way i think it's great and i'm not i'm not really as turned off by the racial prejudice you know  side plots um i i think that's the kind of thing that doesn't resonate with everybody but it will  resonate with some and you know it that kind of story needs to be told more often needs to be put  in front of more people so well let's talk about that because i completely agree with both of you i  think uh this is a great built upon everything they set up in the first episode which they  intentionally didn't have bucky and winter soldier interact at all they're slow playing at least that  buddy comedy aspect of the buddy relationship not i mean they're comedic moments but it's a  dramatic show right and uh i think jeremy when you say the racial elements don't play i think  or may not play with some people i i you know you see shows like watchmen and lovecraft country  tackle these very same topics um and my actually my impression is actually more on  the side of adventure and that i want to see more of this stuff but i actually think because of the  it's disney because it's marvel uh the tone of that sometimes clashes with the the hokey action  and some of that you know some of some of the the racial elements that get tied into which i  think it's important as a part of marvel culture and marvel history and these characters histories  don't get enough exploration it's almost a little bit too um someone wrote it best uh on i o nine  is it's after school special and it's um in its tone right oh okay falcon's experiencing racism  at a bank or cops are pulling over like they're these check boxes of like these are the scenes  that you would see but they're not giving a lot of time to get into the nuance of it all whereas  a show like watchmen i think really didn't hold back in the tough topics sure discussion oh sure  like watching much more mature yeah it's written for adults and and marvel not isn't necessarily  marvel is more in the after school special kind of demographic and they they're you know news  flash there aren't after-school specials anymore so let's have it like bring it in yes absolutely  it's a net plus i would always still um you know from a creative standpoint want them to go further  i think the the audience is mature enough um to it doesn't need to be dumbed down for an audience  or it doesn't need to sacrifice the things you would expect out of our marvel shown the the  character that really warrants the spoiler light is the isaiah bradley character played by carl  lumbley and that's who bucky introduces falcon to and it's kind of just like a one-off scene but  that is a massive part marvel history so a little bit of context is uh over 10 years ago marvel  came out with this miniseries called truth um and it was the the secret origin of captain america  uh you know we hear the story of captain america as we saw in the marvel cinematic universe  you know uh they came up the super soldier serum steve rogers one they chose the the serum was  was destroyed after and so he's the only super soldier in the world right and they found  the right person to help take america through world war ii and in the comics the truth story  it really pulls into the real american history of the tuskegee experiments and the idea that  you know america if they had a super soldier serum they probably wouldn't give it to a blond-haired  blue-eyed white kid from new york as their first test subject they would probably be testing it on  you know minorities um and that's what they did in the marvel comics and they tested on thousands  of black men which only one survived a full one survived that's isaiah bradley and he was the very  first captain america but his history was erased and uh he was imprisoned after you know after that  and so the the revelation in that comic is that behind this you know the the propaganda poster of  captain america as a as a post propaganda poster boy for the war effort is this dark history which  more reflects you know kind of what happened in the real world so the fact that they're touching  on to that they're an mcu version of it which i think is uh more uh vietnam or korean war  uh isaiah bradley and but they're they have him as a character and the pain that he you know  they touch on that i hope he comes back in later episodes because that's a big deal on the fact  that if this should be about yeah if it's about falcon taking on the mantle that's got to be tied  to the history for sure and also i will always welcome more carl lumbley i love that man umcheck out the director's cut on hbo max so anything more car lumbery i will say i like  a lot of the the plot lines they did kind of plug in there that's just the idea that  who's paying these guys right who's paying falcon who's paying any of these guys for anything  he comes out of saving the world multiple times with no money to show for it he can't get a loan  i kind of hokey but i do think that's an important thing to say also especially when bucky's there  with a um like apparently a fancy new york apartment apparently like a decent psychiatrist  you know like he has support and help what happened to falcon yeah well bucky i think  that's probably steve in my in my mind i think falcon um he's you know he i think  it ties exactly what there's the story they're telling that he and his community and his family  would rather be self-sufficient and stand on their own then take the you know the tony stark paycheck  to to save the world um and that's more a testament to his character um and why he  has deserved if they say that specifically or did they just never offer it like i don't know  i think he just never really asked but also if it was offered i'm sure a lot of people would  yep yes i do deserve a little bit of money for saving the world for fighting thanos yes for being  on on cap's left all the time exactly you know i think there's also the idea of a superhero having  imposter syndrome that you know whether he feels like he is worthy of the shield which makes him  it's exactly the reason why he is worthy i think that's a really interesting uh thing for them to  dive into um and and i think that's what makes this show interesting dramatically you know it's  his balance of all these things while also being full of action and being funny and you know it  is edge of my seat television i'm definitely watching it at the hospital this weekend the  third episode oh we have plans for sure uh moving on to other bits of pop culture uh switching over  to the dc side uh dc has like four movies coming out next year you got shazam you got the batman uh  what's the uh wait what's the batman movie coming out oh this is uh matt reeves it's not you should  go watch that trailer yeah it was a great looking trailer yeah yeah yeah this is uh robert pattinson  from the twilight films really as batman okay this rings a bell yeah who has grown  into being one of the most interesting actors of his generation like i love pattinson i love  everything he does and the fact that he's going back into a genre thing is just uh  shocking to me but also that trailer looks looks dope as hell yeah yeah it's not tied to anything  with the zack snyder universe or the chris arnold universe it's kind of its own thing dc  their fans understand the multiverse and so they they're happy to have shows on cw have movies  that don't interconnect at all but just how are these tellings of these characters and if they  build out into a franchise that's great and so it's very different from the mcu one cohesive  and and one boss seeing everything uh and then dc is kind of a little bit of a mess  right they have the zack snyder universe stuff you know we've talked plenty about the  snyder cut but we had also the suicide squad like david eyers did a suicide squad movie  that wasn't received very well the word is that was heavily edited because if you call that a  movie yeah yeah success of the trailer or the music video cut of a movie uh but james gunn  director of the guardians movies pulled over to dc to direct the suicide squad and that trailer looks  fun he's doing exactly like it looks like the same tone as guardians they're referency  you know it's a standalone story with lovable characters you know uh men's favorite characters  yeah yeah and all these random superheroes investor villains i guess that most mainstream  media and mainstream audiences don't know about because they're expendable  that's the fun of this this uh this franchise is that they are the suicide squad and you  can pull from the dc catalog of thousands of characters and just have one be actual  cannon fodder yeah uh on disney plus side we had the casting announcements for the obi-wan  movie now we do evil mcgregor it's coming back to be obi-wan this is gonna be set between  uh the trilogies original trilogy and the sequel trilogy is what he was doing before he was a  hermit but also some surprising casting as well so hayden christensen announced come back as anakin  the big showdown yeah yeah yeah uh so it's gonna be vader or maybe flashbacks we actually don't  know how it's gonna be presented but you have also uncle owens coming backreally so yeah so um in uh it's uh it's what's his name um who's become a joel edgarton yeah so yeah  yeah it's hilarious so he's coming back to be uncle owen uh and um one of the actresses from um  from queen's gambit uh the rumor is that she's gonna be playing a young ahsoka because that  would be in that time frame where yeah anakin had trained ahsoka and and then betrayed her so like  intersection supporting cast all around by the way like um those like between kamel nandyani indiraone of the safety brothers who directed uncut gems that's wild to me well kumail is going to be in  the eternals and in the star wars living the dream what a that is right go from silicon valley to  to beefed up for eternals and now being in star wars that's pretty good pretty goodokay not much in tech but uh davindra because we have you here and because you're meeting  so much great tech coverage for engadget i'd love to hear about the products that  you've been covering and the kind of trends that you've been seeing uh these past these  past three months the first quarter of 2021 in in tech what's been rumbling in the newsroom  i mean the big things are you know there's some stuff from ces intel showed off it's uh  its first h series cpus we know they talked about some of their hardware there was news  about intel's i don't know if you guys talked about this but they're new like under the new ceo  their new path towards becoming a chip fabricator in a serious way over the next couple years so  intel is really shaping itself up to compete against amd and apple and all the like mobile  chip makers so we'll see if anything goes uh you know there um we also saw the rtx 3000 gpus uh get  announced for laptops and i'm seeing a couple of those uh i've reviewed a couple already i have the  asus g15 uh in like right next to me in the office right now so you know nothing too surprising but  it's really cool to see gaming hardware and laptop hardware getting better and better these days  with the rtx stuff um i remember because the 10 series was so uh efficient right the basically  the mobile 10 series side 1080 1070s were almost equivalent it wasn't uh even though  the numbers were saying it wasn't like a clocking down or fewer cores on the mobile side and then  the 20 series they then moved further apart of course nvidia has their uh what is it called mexq  max q that's right which sounds like it's a better version but no it's the quieter version  which means it's like the underperforming it is the underperforming optimized version but maximum  as much quality as you can get within your heat envelope yeah so what's the story with the 3000  series are they back to the you know having max q versions being what's going to be most laptops  like is there a actual tdp equivalent um that with the desktop cards it's it's still the max q thing  all over again and you know that that gap is going to keep happening because the amount of  power they're putting into these chips and also the fact that laptop makers keep they still keep  trying to make you know thin and light ultra portables i i don't mind the power gap because  you know for me to have like a computer like the g15 or the asus g14 which was my favorite gaming  laptop of last year that thing weighed three and a half pounds and had an rtx 2060 and it  was under fifteen hundred dollars and it had the verizon e core chip like that's an astounding deal  for a laptop it's still incredibly powerful these gpus are super fast in desktops but not everybody  you can't find them in stock you have to have a whole you know desktop built to support them so  sure these aren't as fast as the desktop gpus but they're still really fast and they'll still do  decent um decent retracing performance some good 4k gameplay um you know it's uh it's not  the same but i still think very powerful and for most people if you don't have a desktop and you  don't want to have a desktop in your house get a gaming laptop get like you can find pretty good  deals these days even an rtx 20 series machine is still going to be really good hook that up to tv  and you've got yourself like a pretty powerful console to be honest yeah gaming really is the  differentiating factor it's the reason to have a heavy laptop with short battery life  but with the power envelope to you know have a new ryzen chip or a new gtx chip because otherwise you  know i think we're all kind of waiting on the apple side for their pro m-class chips because  the performance that you saw on the productivity side for video editing you know that quote unquote  content creation angle which is where a lot of what the pc side had been trying to push into  uh the m chips are so fast and so optimized and so low power that like it's hard to recommend outside  of gaming you know a windows pc if you have the same app on mac os it depends like my wife really  needed a computer recently and i was like i i've loved the xps 13s i've loved the xps 13 series  forever so i got her a refurbished actually a refurbished xps 13 2 in one but hey a great way  to get a good deal it was like 300 bucks it wasn't that much and the hardware you get in it is still  it's more ram than you find in mac you know it may not be as fast a chip but that's also  a convertible so it could do a lot more rather than what the air or macbook pro can right now  i think for education right education's the other other big thing and the fact that there's a touch  screen on windows laptops like learning it's just like it's just better for students than paying the  apple tax for the more expensive hardware yeah it hurts my brain a little bit whenever nvidia  announces a new product because you can't buy their old product yet you know whether it's the 30  60 series cards or the laptop chips and i'm just wondering like you know we've we've heard the ps5  will be available for anybody who wants it in a few months we've heard the same maybe from nvidia  but i can't help but wonder if those companies have gotten a taste of what nintendo had with the  wii and they like it and they like being so sought after that there's this just you know fervor on  ebay i'm sure they'd like to make more money too like they they can't complete these sales so the  excitement is there right whatever nvidia puts out whatever sony puts out i feel like you can only  you know build up that excitement so much before you got to deliver or people will  get start getting angry at you so i feel like in videos on that precipice certainly amd is the gpu  market in general is such a mess right now anybody who wants to build a pc good luck to you because  it's a nightmare out there um yeah the console generations are spaced far enough that like people  who save their money to buy ps5 it's not like there's gonna be another opportunity to buy  something else in the two or three months time and then it just builds up that that kind of  that that demand uh the demand curve on on the pc side if nvidia feels confident enough that  people aren't going to want to spend money on a horizon uh or on a radion ship uh then yeah  you know the scarcity doesn't hurt the marketing but i do think that there's that sweet spot of  like they don't want to miss out on sales and let the money go into the gray market either  or for people buying their ships just for cryptocurrency mining or something  yeah yeah apple announced that wwc 2021 this year will again be a virtual went event this is  the one where they had when they did that event last year they had the crazy like uh augmented  reality sets right on the uh in in their big uh uh presentation hall and it's crazy uh announcements  like the way that they combine the filming with like the virtualization of the presentations  were really cool um but it's developer event i mean i think developers uh were overall more  happy with this event being more accessible and the the panels being recorded and watchable online  uh from a consumer perspective it's not any real big change they're gonna do some type of keynote  and they'll announce whatever whatever they have to announce um but uh what's the feeling on the  the apple front over at engadget davindra like you know what i think the phones are  fine but is the excitement on you know is there excitement outside of their laptop stuff or  just waiting for vr ar everyone's waiting for the new m1 machines like i mean that's the real thing  right i know several people actually i know at least a dozen people who are waiting for new imacs  and they're like just just give me that m1i mac just give me that ammo like i will pay apple 2 000  right now for an m1 imac so i feel like the demand is right there for that and the m1 imac and mac  pro eventually right those become very interesting systems because they're not constrained by battery  life for sure portability and so we don't know what a m1 or m2 whatever they're going to call  it chip looks like on a desktop class system where you know the they can they can at that five  nanometer process put a lot more and there's not a it can be a higher tdp yeah i wanted  to test out the mac mini to be honest because it technically shouldn't have that limitation too and  i yeah i couldn't get one for review unfortunately but from the reviews i've seen it hasn't been like  it's not that huge of an improvement over well that was more development platform right the mac  was never like a full system and i think it made sense for them from a manufacturing as they ramped  up the m1 production to have it be have it uh parity performance wise with the macbook air  and the 13-inch macbook pro because it was just a way to get people to port their apps over to  to arm triggers yeah i mean i'm interested to see what those pro chips look like um  the thing is like they have such tremendous graphics performance i wonder if game developers  are starting to be like hey uh maybe we should pay a little more attention to this right now or maybe  we'll just see more mobile ports or more mobile games that work easily on uh on mac platforms  that'd be nice to see youtube yeah they don't have the excuse anymore since they started supporting  both xbox and playstation gamepads across all of their devices so i have added developers i hope  that they do you know covering tech for so long we see the trends of where consumers are really  excited i'm sure you can find these on like search trends as well you know 10 years ago it's probably  smart phones and then tablets and then as we come into multiple generations of these products  not only is consumer base just more informed as a whole but it becomes a little uh routine in terms  of like what the more kind of yeah they're better every year that's why the m chips are so exciting  because it is a paradigm shift in the way that a biggest you know tech company in the world is  doing their their computers but i feel like the two places where we're on the cusp of a lot more  coverage and interest from the mainstream consumer side is 5g and uh and electric cars  or just you know not just some type of post post gas cars and so do you see that like from on the  end gadget side just increase in demand or those type of those articles and that type of coverage  i feel like i should say 5g has been one of our biggest things because we're owned by verizon  and verizon 5g some of the best services in the country everybody um but no nobody nobody really  seems to care like we've been doing you know a lot of infrastructure reporting we've covered 5g for  years but i think until we start to see the use cases that actually really prove why it'll be  useful to people um you know it's hard to get people excited for it and the 5g we have right  now especially the really fast stuff has to be line of sight it's really only in certain areas  i'm outside of atlanta now it's like i can barely get some of that in my suburb so it's just not  that exciting and the thing is 4g lte was so good that i think it's really hard to tell people well  you'll have lower latency you'll have you know a couple hundred more megabits uh download speed  they won't notice that nobody will notice that so until we have the actual use cases maybe those ar  glasses that can automatically get low latency high-speed you know connections without needing  your cell phone or something maybe we'll start to see more cases like that but i feel like that is  a ways out electric cars are certainly getting more exciting though like i'm personally more  excited about those so i'm seeing that from a lot of readers too you mentioned  augmented reality glasses and i have to tell you when i saw the invite graphic for the wwdc  it's an image of somebody looking at a laptop all you see is the reflection of  the laptop in their glasses and i thought oh my god it's time they're doing it this is it  and nobody's nobody reported it and i was like oh okay i'm reading too much no i i think people are  saying and i think um what's that mark german i think reported that the the apple either this  upcoming event whatever that is or wwdc we'll see the announcement of that first the like developer  centered ar class glasses cool cool yeah okay which is the the vr pass-through glasses from  where you understand that's the mark the bloomberg reporting is that apple's gonna do their thousand  dollar limited quantity in stores vr pass-through as developer kit uh with the optics and for ar  still to be solved and it's kind of i mean apple doesn't often do this like they didn't do with the  iphone they don't know with the ipad but i think that you know facebook put a flag on the ground  when they at connect announced last year that they're doing their ray-ban style classes they're  going to have world-sensing stuff they need to have these units out in the world to like like  the cruise cars like the waymo cars to to actually get world mapping and slam locked in and tested in  outside of laboratory conditions and with glasses uh you can't hide it inside like a phone inside a  fake phone shell right like you can just put them in ugly frames you know like maybe maybe  like that motorcycle helmets oh my god exactly right it looks like sports goggles yeah yes  there's a lot of things they could do i will say there is definitely a rush for a at least a rush  of interest among the tech side for ar glasses i still don't know about consumers like i've been  covering vr for so long and i'll tell you guys people just don't care that much like and i put  so much energy into covering vr hardware it's like until they can actually put it on and experience  it themselves me doing a video of vr or writing it up is just not conveying that experience like the  quality of that experience but hey all these tech companies want to um they want the next platform  right they want to be on what is going to be the next iphone or the next ipad or whatever wearables  didn't really pan out but ar has the potential to really change things because it's a computer  you can never escape you know um and certainly electric cars same thing i i will give you caveat  that wearables as a whole broad category i think i completely agree and yeah the the smart watch has  been a big business and it's become but i i think the the airpods is the wearable category that  has exploded and that was more of a grassroots momentum thing where it became a prestige product  really in schools among you know younger younger consumers uh and that which a lesson learned from  beats really uh helped that become uh a big market staple where they could charge 550 bucks for their  airpod mox uh wireless headphones and so i think they're going to have to do that  it's not going to be us doing a video like we'll talk to the enthusiast the articles will explain  the tech for people who've been following it but you know for i think a mainstream consumer to be  interested yeah it's gonna have to come from apple because they're gonna pay attention they're gonna  perk their ears up but they're gonna perk their ears up not because it's a cool piece of tech but  because it's gonna be the latest and greatest thing that they can get that they can show off  in their friends circle um because like the 600 headphones that nobody's talking about now  but you were cool for a while if you had one the big airpods is that what you heard  box exactly yeah yeah well they're curious the airpods solved a problem like they gave people  good wireless earbuds like that played music but the fact that they do the cool pass-through thing  is like the the thing that made it extra special to me i feel like it's almost like a bionic  implant when i'm walking down the street and the the traffic is too loud you know i i pinch it and  certainly like i convert my experience and that's not something that you can do with with regular  headphones and that was that's something i probably never would have bought it for  but having it it's it's hard to go back it's so they have they have to they have to satisfy a need  and then exceed it in some way i would disagree i disagree they have the satisfied need i think they  have satisfied need is great and allows for that product to grow and be reviewed well but there are  plenty of people with fake air pods error pads that they never use for actually listening to  music that they just wore as a statement and as an accessory because they were the expensive hard to  get a nintendo wii thing um and and that allowed for it to be the coveted thing and then yes and  and then people started realizing wow it actually does solve a thing that i didn't know i needed so  those things have to go in hand in hand it's kind of the market forces of demand with the the actual  utility of it for sure just one or the other isn't going to make it i'm just thinking in terms of the  augmented reality glasses they have to solve a problem yeah that's that's what i'm saying is  like they they can do all kinds of cool new things but if they don't solve something for people they  won't take off i don't know if it's necessarily solving the problem right like i don't know if  the pass-through was necessarily a problem but it is nice to have and now you don't want to live  without it and i think that is kind of the key that apple is so good at finding right nobody knew  they wanted good wireless earbuds but then hey the airpods came out uh they don't fit in my ear so i  hate them um but the air cons it came out and for most people they worked fine and you know it was  great i really like the airpods pro which actually stay in my ears um but the pass-through thing that  is something other noise-canceling buds can do as well like that is actually a basic feature  for noise-canceling earbuds but apple just makes it more seamless i think it's really the pairing  the fact that you could easily switch between you know your phone your mac your apple tv or whatever  better than either bluetooth headset is also a pretty good one but yeah the question is what do  you do with ar i think i don't think apple knows i think they're trying to figure it out and uh they  didn't know what the iphone they didn't know what the app store was going to be when they launched  the iphone but they kind of are very good at learning about how people you know user tech are  seeing the potential once developers glom onto it so we want they want the platform everybody wants  the platform and the idea of tech that you're always wearing that you're always looking at too  that's kind of the key for all these companies right because the iphone is the computer you  never leave you know and that's kind of been the case the airpods are basically audible auditory  computers connected to your iphone so the glasses i think will just continue along that trend and uh  i don't know we'll see i want updates for like names i'm bad at remembering names and faces so  give me a device that can do that so i don't have to feel awkward at parties how about that yeahthe vr minute virtual reality this weekuh well we've moved right into vr our last segment and you know we've talked  about covering vr for a long time and it is this week five years since the launch of the oculus  rift in 2016. so you know before that you had the dk and dk2 and all that stuff and  the big hype of course on not just on the oculus facebook side but  you know on the the htc and the steam steamvr side as well and a lot of momentum still going there uh  but you know on this kind of anniversary of sorts uh there's been a lot of retrospective about  where vr has come uh how far it's come and how far there is to go facebook put this huge kind of  oral history of you know the oculus product launches and the things they had to do and  the things the lessons they learned and we saw a glimpse of this it's absolutely worth reading it's  like 18 000 words interviews with so many these interesting engineers many of whom have never  really publicly talked about uh the development and a few insights about you know even the changes  that we kind of get like infer from carmax talks at oculus connect about their internal decision  making uh but they did announce you know the quest two has outsold every previous oculus headset  combined not surprising yeah you can like take that a couple different ways like you know that  means that either it's done super well or the first couple headsets really didn't do  that well but it's it's like the price i think was undeniable i think they've reached a really  good point in the ecosystem where there's a lot of great legacy apps of course still work  the optics look good the controllers are good like ever it's good in so many ways yeah and developers  have learned of these like kind of arcade games that get people excited you know the beat sabers  and the the pistol whips uh that get people were excited and then and it's very for looking in  terms of the the hand tracking tech which they i think apps have really barely tapped into  uh i think the app lab uh launch uh this year has been a good thing that positive you have  a lot of games that previously were just in the side quests that now have been approved for app  lab distribution and they can even sell their apps there pavlov shack just launched on app lab it's  their counter-strike um clone but very popular very good uh you have great online communities  with games like population one um and vr chat solutions coming all around like i i've been  through a couple just in the past couple of months and they they're pretty cool it's a good way to  talk to people yeah vr chat is fascinating that's it gives me i mean it's almost a scary place for  old folks like like me yeah because it feels very much like second life energy has the second light  energy of second second life meets irc yeah yeah and there's so much emergent community that comes  out of that you can't get a full grasp of it all but it also has an intersection with like  v tuber right uh like the the the virtual youtuber performer um culture that's been building up and  the kids love it i mean it's like the number one thing kids want to do when they get a headset is  getting vr chat well it's so customizable it's the ultimate customizable you know multiplayer  experience rec room allows you to build things but you have to use their tools and their assets  like the uh i feel like vr chat is the closest thing we have to the oasis and we're pretty far  off from the oasis but that is the closest thing yet there's a lot of copyright infringement going  on in vr chat but yeah you know that speaks to like what a small community vr still is  uh and just looking back over the past five years or even eight years i feel like uh vr has been so  much more interesting to me than the phone space or you know or uh pc stuff because it came just as  phones got boring right yeah exactly because it's like all those things have sort of reached the  past the point of like diminishing returns we're like getting cool new camera gear but it's not  a new high resolution screen and like amazing new input now i've got five cameras yeah  so i just i i every generation of vrs is as exciting as gaming was back in the 80s where  like you jumped generations and you got an amazing new feature so i i i'm i'm still all in and i'm  i'm glad that the public is finally catching on at just about the right point because it's finally  getting to a point where you know you you can resolve pixels or i should say you can't resolve  pixels especially like on headsets like the reverb but even the quest uh two you know it looks really  good good screen that's a good screen considering where we're from and also things like oculus link  right for people who who want both the portable usage but also hey you have a beefy computer  hook up that usb cable and you you can actually do something more virtually super confusing  virtual desktop is is now you know available by default with vr with steam vr streaming  which is like a twenty dollar purchase that everybody who gets a quest two apps absolutely  should get yeah yeah and even wireless streaming from the cloud is something you know that i think  telecoms they've looked at the data and they they're looking into like when we were connect  we met folks from telecoms who are there to investigate what would be like to do  cloud rendered vr and their services like pluto sphere who are doing the same thing  and so like it's interesting that eight years in it still feels very new even though there's  a device that's you know ostensibly in the same competing category as a nintendo switch  for price and market share and intention you know in terms of games for kids and young people it  still feels very very early and that way jeremy's right it feels so much like the early days of  console games yeah and i feel like consoles we'll get there and also i'm thinking of like the rise  of ar games like pokemon go and minecraft earth which has been killed microsoft is killing it but  that tech that work has still been done i can imagine you have air glasses in five years  and those things are just layers you could turn on you know like apps you can switch through and see  new things around the real world i think that's going to be a killer feature for a lot of people  yeah yeah we've barely scratched the surface of ar experiences and the stuff we've seen  the stuff that even was shown at like the the magic leap demos i think we're just kind of  like the early let's get the low-hanging fruit of what people think ar should be and you got  to get through all those growing pains same with hand interaction you got to get through all the  growing pains until you figure out some novel solution or approach that people didn't realize  is the the no-brainer away or the thing that people are going to gravitate toward as users  uh speaking of augmented reality there's another convention augmented world expo which i love that  convention it's in santa clara every year i think the small feels like a indie hardware convention  yeah it's uh coming back november also uh november this year still in santa clara this is the one  where i feel like you know if the timing is right i probably will we'll try to check out in person  if it's small it seems totally totally doable i'm more worried about the giant the giant events you  know and yeah i'm also counting the days until i can go sit in the theater again because i  man yeah and what's the what's the first movie we'll wrap up with what's the what's the first  movie you want to see in theaters posts second vaccine so i'm projecting yeah second vaccine  is like mid mid april for me and um so two weeks after that i'll give some time to be safe you know  it is probably gonna be the scott pilgrim refresh adobe vision which i yeah i love that movie um  the seeing that at comic-con was one of my favorite cinematic experiences ever  um so i think that would be a great way to welcome in you know going back to theaters jeremy if you  had to go to a theater to watch a movie in the next six months or this year maybe by yourself  not with your family yeah yeah yeah yes i can do that now you can rent a theater for like a hundred  bucks and it's true what's upcoming movie that is coming out this year new movie would you want to  say want to watch in theater you would be willing to go to a theater to watch i do not have a good  answer for you but i imagine the first movie that is a either a disney or a marvel film that i can't  watch at home i will probably go to a movie that's how they get to you that is how they get you but  also the new james bond is coming you know i'm i'm super amped for that i'm a fast and furious fan  that that fast nine is still a thing i cannot wait to see so i'm excited about all of these  yeah if there was a movie like black widow is the one i'm hoping to be able to watch  in theaters but that one will be on disney plus premiere for 30 bucks but i want to i want to  have the mcu experience if there's one movie that like even if it was available  at home i would still make the effort it's going to be eternals mm-hmm like  coming out but eternal is the one that i i feel like yeah the theatrical experience would benefit  from and we haven't seen anything from that except for the casting but claudia like yeah my goddess  right now like i love everything she does so yeah incredi i cannot wait to see whatever that is all  right there it goes well let us know uh in in the comments uh what you plan what's the first  movie you plan to watch in theaters and thank you devendra so much for joining you guys this is fun  where can people find you online and all the places that you are sure you know the usual spots  i'm on twitter at davindra i podcast about movies and tv at the filmcast at slashfilm.com and uh i  do the engadget podcast uh we do that pretty much every thursday morning on the engadget youtube  but yeah check out that show too awesome and of course you can find us always on tested.com  we won't have a traditional episode next week if any episode at all it might be on a break just  because i'm on paternity leave but uh hopefully i mean everything i'm hoping things go well on  fingers crossed good luck thank you thank you very much uh we have a new outro this week from  great job who sent this one in over email and i do think it's gonna work so we can all hear it but  here we go thanks again for listening and we will see you next time play it's going to load  it's loading give me one second i'll cut this in there hi there i didn't see hereum going back to some hardware stuff some quick hits uhis that a pop culture reference i don't know it's called quick hits or just a musical cue all right\n"