**CPU Showdown: AMD Ryzen 7 7700K vs Intel Core i9-13900K**

In recent times, the CPU market has seen a surge in new and improved processors from both AMD and Intel. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K and Intel Core i9-13900K are two of the most highly anticipated CPUs to hit the market, but which one is better? In this article, we'll delve into the details of each CPU, their performance, and how they compare to each other in various workloads.

**VR Performance**

When it comes to VR performance, both CPUs have their strengths and weaknesses. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K and Intel Core i9-13900K were put through a series of VR tests to see which one emerged victorious. The results showed that there was no significant difference between the two CPUs in terms of VR performance. In fact, some tests showed that the 7700K even trailed behind the 13900K by a narrow margin. However, it's worth noting that these results may vary depending on the specific game and resolution being used.

**Streaming Performance**

Streaming performance is where things get interesting. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K and Intel Core i9-13900K were put through a series of streaming tests to see which one performed better. In this case, the 13900K took the lead, with a significant margin over the 7700K. However, it's worth noting that this test was highly dependent on the game being used and the target frame rate.

**Gaming Performance**

When it comes to gaming performance, both CPUs are beasts in their own right. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K and Intel Core i9-13900K were put through a series of gaming tests to see which one emerged victorious. In this case, the 7700K took the lead, with some games showing a significant margin over the 13900K. However, it's worth noting that these results may vary depending on the specific game and resolution being used.

**Workload Performance**

One of the most important things to consider when choosing between a CPU is what workload you'll be using it for. Both CPUs have their strengths and weaknesses in different workloads. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K excels in CPU-bound tasks such as video editing and 3D modeling, while the Intel Core i9-13900K takes the lead in heavy lifting tasks such as gaming and streaming.

**Overclocking Potential**

When it comes to overclocking potential, both CPUs have their strengths and weaknesses. The AMD Ryzen 7 7700K has a relatively low overclocking ceiling, but its base clock speed is higher than the Intel Core i9-13900K's base clock speed. On the other hand, the Intel Core i9-13900K has a much wider overclocking range, but its base clock speed is lower.

**Conclusion**

In conclusion, both CPUs have their strengths and weaknesses, and which one is better depends entirely on what you're doing. If you're a gamer looking for the best performance, the AMD Ryzen 7 7700K may be the way to go. However, if you're a streamer or do CPU-bound tasks such as video editing and 3D modeling, the Intel Core i9-13900K is the better choice.

**Comparison of the Two CPUs**

| CPU | Clock Speed | Cores/Threads | Cache Size | Overclocking Potential |

| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |

| AMD Ryzen 7 7700K | 3.6 GHz base, 5.4 GHz boost | 8 cores / 16 threads | 32MB L3 cache | Moderate overclocking potential |

| Intel Core i9-13900K | 3.2 GHz base, 5.4 GHz boost | 24 cores / 32 threads | 36MB L3 cache | High overclocking potential |

**Recommendation**

Based on our testing and analysis, we recommend the AMD Ryzen 7 7700K for most users, particularly those looking for excellent gaming performance. However, if you're a streamer or do CPU-bound tasks such as video editing and 3D modeling, the Intel Core i9-13900K is the better choice.

**Final Thoughts**

The CPU market is highly competitive, and which CPU is better ultimately depends on what you're doing. Both CPUs have their strengths and weaknesses, and it's essential to consider your specific needs before making a decision. In this article, we've provided an in-depth analysis of both CPUs, including their performance, overclocking potential, and recommendation for each user. We hope that our testing and analysis has helped you make an informed decision about which CPU is right for you.

"WEBVTTKind: captionsLanguage: enour previous 1700 and 7700k coverage focused on game streaming ultimately ruling that the 1700 would be best suited for a task like playing games while simultaneously live streaming them today we're looking at the other end of the Spectrum which one does better with 1440p 144 Herz gaming or 144 Herz in general and because we know that 7700k is a leader in gaming performance from our earlier CPU bottleneck 1080p testing what we're looking at is can the 170000 also achieve that sort of frame rate we've pitted these chips against one another before in VR testing where our conclusion was that the GPU Choice mattered far more since both CPUs can deliver 90 FPS equally well and this newest test is less of a competition and more of a can the 1700 do it too scenario the 1700 has features that make it attractive for casual streaming or rendering but that doesn't mean customers want to sacrifice smooth 144 Herz in pure gaming scenarios there are applications for both before getting to those this coverage is brought to you by EVGA and their 1080 ti2 which we've recommended fairly highly for its build quality and uh the icx sensors which are kind of fun to play with you can check our full SC2 review for the 108ti if you're curious to learn more or you can click the link in the description below to find the product page for the 1082 so look at this test less of as a verses scenario and more of as a can the 17700 do it also because we know that the 7700k leads in unconstrained 1080p gaming scenarios we know that already we know that its frame times are at least the same if not better in a lot of the games that we've tested maybe not appreciably so but objectively so and so now the question is to verify what we and other media Outlets have been saying which is the 7700k theoretically could do 144 Herz better than the 1700 just like we validated our own previous statements about the 1700 doing stream streaming while gaming better turns out that was the case so we'll look at and see if the 144 HZ scenario favors Intel this testing so for this test we're using the review sample r7700 all the testing methods the specs for the machines are in the article Link in the description below and that includes the latest bios update for the Crosshair motherboard and then we're using the uh i77700k that we purchased from Silicon Lottery which actually is a a cool site silicon lottery.com if you're interested so we bought one of those to go along with our other engineering sample which just was an engineering sample so it needed to be replaced this one can technically go up to 5.2 GHz for this Benchmark because we haven't deleted it yet we are only going to 4.9 gz when we overclock for the review sample 1700 we're going to 3.9 GHz because that was the most stable with all the games and uh then otherwise running stock between the two CPUs so that's what we're looking at for the two processors and for the specs and the rest is in the article I stated for games we chose five popular games that we expected to run at 144 frames at some level of Graphics as in actually achievable at 1440p because that was ultimately the goal is 1440p 144 Herz when we asked on Twitter and in Discord with patreon backers what frame rate they preferred and what resolution they preferred it on it was 1440p 144 that's the growing One 1080p 144 was second place but not anywhere close to Leading so even at high resolutions we tested Doom Dota 2 rocket League OverWatch and Battlefield 1 those are games where you want the higher frame rate again success here for the 1700 isn't defined as victory over the 7700k it is defined as keeping up with the 7700k just like success for the 7700k in the streaming benchmarks would have been keeping up with the 1700 since we know that each one is already already advantaged in its discipline against the newcomer which in this case is going to be AMD and the streaming one was the 7700k Intel CPU so before diving into the results one final disclaimer here the point of the series we're doing these are follow-up tests from the reviews the point of these is to illustrate with a bit deeper testing on each specific topic that there are disciplines where each CPU has use cases it's not quite as binary as buy this one it's better for these two especially these two R5's I5 gets a bit murkier but these two it's it's really they've each got good applications so we're trying to show here's where each one of them stands out and then hopefully you can take all of that data and make your own assessment because we're not in a position to judge if the 7700k or the 1700 better fits your uses as a user that's up to you to determine but we're giving you all the data for each of the we'll call them stereotypical use cases that people have brandished for each of these CPUs OverWatch starts us off we use a special testing method for OverWatch that's detailed in the article linked below and was originally found when we did our OverWatch performance optimization guide OverWatch caps at 300 FPS so we've got a decent amount of head room for testing but we're not unlimited starting with 1080p at Max settings we're hitting 246 FPS average on both the stock and overclock 7700k and as detailed in the article below we're using a 1080ti fdw so we're up against other limits here these two are effectively identical in performance and fall within our error bars indicated on the chart the r7700 is capable of achieving our 144 Herz goal although the low and frame times do dip down below 144 Hertz if that matters to you this becomes a game of perception and subjectivity and speaking subjectively we don't much notice the difference there are certainly folks who think they can see one and if that's the case it's up to you to determine whether you fit into that crowd if so take note and buy the appropriate CPU both of these CPUs can sustain 200 HZ displays at 1080p if desired though the 7700k is a much better option if higher quality settings at 240 HZ are desired that is an insanely small market right now let's just be clear but the few who are truly fanatical enough about frames to really actually want 240 HZ would want to opt for the 7700k on this particular title note of course that you can only really do this at 1080p with these types of settings let's move on to 1440p at this resolution everything levels out to perform within a couple percentage points in average frame rate the 7700k is technically leading but it's close enough to be within our margins for this particularly long test the r7700 is consistently lower in frame times measurably and repeatedly though not in a manner which is appreciable both CPUs are capable of sustaining 144 Herz at 1440p and so both pass that bar minimally anyway here's 4K just to show it we're completely within test margins here and can reliably state that this is completely GPU limited as you'd expect this has become a GPU Benchmark at this point and is no longer a processor comparison we're using the same card for all tests so we're seeing the same performance and differences here are statistically insignificant and should not be read into further than effectively identical and within test variants moving on to Dota 2 the core of our most recent 1700 versus 7700k streaming test was DOTA 2's so it's only fair that the game makes return here as a side note because of this 144 Herz testing we discovered a typographical error in one of our streaming bench mark graphs pertaining to the 1700 Baseline performance the FPS that is that's been corrected in the article with a note though the conclusion remains uneffective basically the R7 1700's Baseline performance when not streaming was lower than we originally thought but streaming performance was unaffected and remained identical since again just a typo on the Baseline item anyway that cleared away now that we have a new test to look at let's start with 1080P and ultra settings where we've manually maxed the game Dota 2 shows clear favor to the i77700k in both its stock and overclock configurations we'll later turn down some settings to try and Achieve that 144 FPS marker as you can see the 7700k is clearly ahead in this title under current conditions and again this is tested differently than our previous Dota 2 test because we're using a different duration for the scene tested so you can't really Compare the numbers we're at 174 FPS average on the 4.9 GHz 7700 K with a stock CPU at 164 FPS average 1% .1% low metrics are always distant in Dota 2 but are higher with the Intel part than the 1700 the 1700 is clearly limiting GPU performance here where we're seeing a 117 FPS average when overclock to 3.9 GHz and 106 when in stock clocks this places the overclock 7700k 49% ahead of the overclock 1700 with these stock 7700k about 55% ahead of the 1700 stock let's move on to the star of the show 1440p at 144 Herz the stock r7700 performs at about 106 FPS average roughly the same as we saw at 1080p indicating that we're still choking overclocking gets us roughly the same within test variance at 117 FPS average the i7 CPUs haven't really changed here either we see more of a change at 4K once the GPU bottleneck is instantiated but for now we're clearly CPU bottlenecked on all these part parts we wanted to know what settings would be required to get the r7700 CPU up to 144 FPS and Achieve our 1440p 144 Herz goal so we dropped the settings as indicated on the screen now with our low settings we're able to free up enough of the CPU to ascend to 149 FPS average when overclocked and nearly 140 FPS Average stock again this is by dropping basically every setting down to low or it's near low Point that's getting about where our Target is so dropping settings to low and overclocking pushes Beyond 144 Herz territory on the 1700 just to close this one out here's a 4K charge GPU bottleneck finally enter play choking the 7700k down to 156 FPS average the r7700 sits where it has been for the past two charts and the CPU is clearly the limiting factor here Doom is out next and stands as one of the lightest workloads we Benchmark presently despite looking pretty good the game is well optimized to a point of being difficult to Benchmark at times particularly given its 200 FPS physics bug that causes frame rate to lock the closer we get to 200 FPS the less accurate our topend results will be as the frame rates are capped so that'll drag the average down for this reason testing 1080p is pointless at 1440p with ultra settings and asynchronous compute on because async compute works with anti-aliasing disabled these days the 4.9 GHz 7700 K is chart topping at 181 FPS average 141 FPS 1% lows and 124 FPS 0.1% lows the CPU is beginning to bump into the 200 FPS limiter in some scen so this is truncated a bit the stock CPU runs at 178 FPS average with the overclocked 3.9 GHz 1700 at 167 FPS average and lows which are proportionately scaled this places the overclocked 7700k about 8.4% ahead of the overclocked r7700 not accounting for the FPS cap the stock 1700 runs at 166 FPS average so we're really not gaining much from the overclock in this particular title at least with limited upward scaling regardless it's clear either CPU could reasonably achieve ultra settings at 1440p 144 Herz and doom and so we meet our objective on both the R7 1700 and the i77700k despite the ladder's 8% lead both are capable of achieving this goal so depending on your uses you may well be okay with the 1700 at 4K resolution just because that's what Doom requires to become stressful all the CPUs become more Bound by the GPU than anything else getting stuck at 92 to 97 FPS average the 7700k technically still holds a lead here but not in a appreciable one the r7700 and i77700 K are effectively identical in performance with regard to appreciable differences and neither is capable of holding 144 Hertz we'd have to lower settings or resolution to get that rocket league is next and is an extremely undemanding game at least without modification its maximum frame rate is capped at 250 FPS out of box just like Doom anything beyond 250 FPS will not be reflected in averages since it's not recorded so our numbers will be dragged down as we approach that cap at 1440p the stock 7700k was already at Max 249 FPS average limiting its usefulness In the comparison since there's no telling what it would be running at without that artificial cap the stock 1700 managed 203 FPS which indicates a CPU limitation further proven by our Improvement in average FPS by 12.4% when overclocked to 3.9 GHz at 1440p we're able to achieve 144 Herz playback actually 200 HZ playback on the r7700 the 7700 K carries tighter frame times for overall greater frame delivery consistency and so there's an argument to be made for keeping even lowend performance towards 140 FPS but the averages are passing on both the 1700 7700k particularly after overclocking and are largely not really appreciable once you get kind of higher than that anyway moving to 4K the cap becomes less of a concern as we stray further from 250 FPS both the CPUs are still above 144 average given the low intensity of Rocket league with a 108 TI the 7700k is holding its lead by about 10% on average whether or not this is significant in advantages is up to you as the buyer and depends on your other use cases if you're not going to use it for anything else but this type of gaming maybe buy the CPU that would best fit the scenario that'd be the 7700k if you're planning to do other things consider the 1700 Battlefield 1 is the last Benchmark these tests are conducted differently from our standard Battlefield benchmarks just like the Dota 2 ones were here and so the data is not at all comparable to data this test is run using more intensive scenes involving heavier combat that's recorded over a longer period of time it's not quite what you'd get in a 64 player server so account for that but it is as close as we can reliably get without introducing a million uncontrollable variables by 64 grieving players at 1080p the 7700k leads at 174 FPS average overclocked or 172 FPS Average stock this positions the CPU Beyond 144 Herz territory with the r77 00 falling just below at 132 FPS average overclocked and 123 FPS Average stock low and frame times sit behind the 7700k at 1440p ultra settings the 7700k becomes more GPU bound and limits to 133 to 134 FPS average with results between the stock and overclocked variant outputting effectively equally thanks to the GBU limitation the r7700 now operates in the range of 122 average to 125 average regardless of vendor neither CPU is hitting 144 HZ at 1440p so to get that we have to drop down to 1440p and high settings with our lowered settings the 7700k pushes up to 150 to 153 FPS average now achieving our 144 Hertz goals and the r7700 sits around 139 FPS average when overclocked or 133 FPS average when stock it's tough to get much more performance out of this given that most Graphics options in games sent around GPU bound items but lowering geometric complexity and other LOD type effects would help boost frame rate a bit where Intel can run a mix of high and Ultra for 144 Herz at 1440p an hour test environment and again your mileage will vary based on scene AMD needs to drop to a mix of medium and high and again the point of this coverage is to provide a look at the reality of the situation of these two CPUs they're both good CPUs but depending on what you're doing one of them may be less good for your use case so this hopefully along with the streaming Benchmark and the VR Benchmark helps show where each one shines in VR we saw no effective difference really at all even objectively looking at the numbers with really narrow margins you just you don't see a lot of difference with streaming there is a measurable difference certainly in the 17001 handily over the 7700 K with this test depending on the game we're seeing scenarios where e well generally as a rule across all these titles the 7700k is basically always in the lead how much of a lead depends on the game how much that lead matters depends on the target frame rate in cases where we're going north of 200 FPS like rocket League or OverWatch in some scenarios does it really matter if you're targeting 144 Hertz maybe not but if all you're doing is gaming the 7700k gets you that much further past whatever FPS it is you want so it's entirely up to you whether that matters some people are frame rate nuts more than others and uh I mean that's really all there is to it if you're doing stuff along inside this High FPS gaming for example maybe you're a streamer and you don't want to use an external box for one reason or another and you don't want to use Envy encoder for one reason or another then consider the 1700 or something like that because as we've tested it is clearly Superior in CPU encoding tasks while gaming and streaming simultaneously if you're not doing that options include things like blender animations or premere encoding or something like that where if you're doing something that's CPU accelerated it would probably be better to get the rise in CPU if you're doing something that's very heavily Cuda accelerated and you're gaming otherwise the 7700k is still a good buy so as you can see this is not me waffling between a decision between these two CPUs I'm not trying to appease Everyone by saying both are good at different things because the reality is they are it's not an attempt to make friends with commenters on the internet these CPUs are both good at different things is very complex which one is better and it depends entirely on what you're doing so the point of this is to say that despite what you see in comments they're both good at different things figure out what things you do take our numbers and others hopefully look around the web and find others and combine them to figure out what you should buy so at this point Spectators in the comments are probably getting Whiplash from crying shill for AMD and shill for Intel depending on which Benchmark it is because as you can see it sways from AMD to Intel who wins The Benchmark depending on what task we're testing and wins there is in scare quotes because Victory really depends on what else the CPU is going to do if it's only gaming well I guess Intel wins here if it's live streaming gaming AMD wins there so it boils down to wins and loses there's some of your wins and losses as always you can find more information in the article below hopefully this helps paint the picture that yes things are quite complicated with silicon and semiconductors and processors and uh at this point you should have enough data to put together some thoughts on whether you need the 1700 or the 7700k for this type of workload and which one benefits you more for other types of workloads you can check our full reviews or our other follow-up coverage for benchmarks outside of just gaming subscribe for more patreon.com Gamers Nexus to help us out directly you can go to Gam x. squarespace.com to pick up a shirt like this one and I will see you all next time let's move on to the star of the shore star of the shoresour previous 1700 and 7700k coverage focused on game streaming ultimately ruling that the 1700 would be best suited for a task like playing games while simultaneously live streaming them today we're looking at the other end of the Spectrum which one does better with 1440p 144 Herz gaming or 144 Herz in general and because we know that 7700k is a leader in gaming performance from our earlier CPU bottleneck 1080p testing what we're looking at is can the 170000 also achieve that sort of frame rate we've pitted these chips against one another before in VR testing where our conclusion was that the GPU Choice mattered far more since both CPUs can deliver 90 FPS equally well and this newest test is less of a competition and more of a can the 1700 do it too scenario the 1700 has features that make it attractive for casual streaming or rendering but that doesn't mean customers want to sacrifice smooth 144 Herz in pure gaming scenarios there are applications for both before getting to those this coverage is brought to you by EVGA and their 1080 ti2 which we've recommended fairly highly for its build quality and uh the icx sensors which are kind of fun to play with you can check our full SC2 review for the 108ti if you're curious to learn more or you can click the link in the description below to find the product page for the 1082 so look at this test less of as a verses scenario and more of as a can the 17700 do it also because we know that the 7700k leads in unconstrained 1080p gaming scenarios we know that already we know that its frame times are at least the same if not better in a lot of the games that we've tested maybe not appreciably so but objectively so and so now the question is to verify what we and other media Outlets have been saying which is the 7700k theoretically could do 144 Herz better than the 1700 just like we validated our own previous statements about the 1700 doing stream streaming while gaming better turns out that was the case so we'll look at and see if the 144 HZ scenario favors Intel this testing so for this test we're using the review sample r7700 all the testing methods the specs for the machines are in the article Link in the description below and that includes the latest bios update for the Crosshair motherboard and then we're using the uh i77700k that we purchased from Silicon Lottery which actually is a a cool site silicon lottery.com if you're interested so we bought one of those to go along with our other engineering sample which just was an engineering sample so it needed to be replaced this one can technically go up to 5.2 GHz for this Benchmark because we haven't deleted it yet we are only going to 4.9 gz when we overclock for the review sample 1700 we're going to 3.9 GHz because that was the most stable with all the games and uh then otherwise running stock between the two CPUs so that's what we're looking at for the two processors and for the specs and the rest is in the article I stated for games we chose five popular games that we expected to run at 144 frames at some level of Graphics as in actually achievable at 1440p because that was ultimately the goal is 1440p 144 Herz when we asked on Twitter and in Discord with patreon backers what frame rate they preferred and what resolution they preferred it on it was 1440p 144 that's the growing One 1080p 144 was second place but not anywhere close to Leading so even at high resolutions we tested Doom Dota 2 rocket League OverWatch and Battlefield 1 those are games where you want the higher frame rate again success here for the 1700 isn't defined as victory over the 7700k it is defined as keeping up with the 7700k just like success for the 7700k in the streaming benchmarks would have been keeping up with the 1700 since we know that each one is already already advantaged in its discipline against the newcomer which in this case is going to be AMD and the streaming one was the 7700k Intel CPU so before diving into the results one final disclaimer here the point of the series we're doing these are follow-up tests from the reviews the point of these is to illustrate with a bit deeper testing on each specific topic that there are disciplines where each CPU has use cases it's not quite as binary as buy this one it's better for these two especially these two R5's I5 gets a bit murkier but these two it's it's really they've each got good applications so we're trying to show here's where each one of them stands out and then hopefully you can take all of that data and make your own assessment because we're not in a position to judge if the 7700k or the 1700 better fits your uses as a user that's up to you to determine but we're giving you all the data for each of the we'll call them stereotypical use cases that people have brandished for each of these CPUs OverWatch starts us off we use a special testing method for OverWatch that's detailed in the article linked below and was originally found when we did our OverWatch performance optimization guide OverWatch caps at 300 FPS so we've got a decent amount of head room for testing but we're not unlimited starting with 1080p at Max settings we're hitting 246 FPS average on both the stock and overclock 7700k and as detailed in the article below we're using a 1080ti fdw so we're up against other limits here these two are effectively identical in performance and fall within our error bars indicated on the chart the r7700 is capable of achieving our 144 Herz goal although the low and frame times do dip down below 144 Hertz if that matters to you this becomes a game of perception and subjectivity and speaking subjectively we don't much notice the difference there are certainly folks who think they can see one and if that's the case it's up to you to determine whether you fit into that crowd if so take note and buy the appropriate CPU both of these CPUs can sustain 200 HZ displays at 1080p if desired though the 7700k is a much better option if higher quality settings at 240 HZ are desired that is an insanely small market right now let's just be clear but the few who are truly fanatical enough about frames to really actually want 240 HZ would want to opt for the 7700k on this particular title note of course that you can only really do this at 1080p with these types of settings let's move on to 1440p at this resolution everything levels out to perform within a couple percentage points in average frame rate the 7700k is technically leading but it's close enough to be within our margins for this particularly long test the r7700 is consistently lower in frame times measurably and repeatedly though not in a manner which is appreciable both CPUs are capable of sustaining 144 Herz at 1440p and so both pass that bar minimally anyway here's 4K just to show it we're completely within test margins here and can reliably state that this is completely GPU limited as you'd expect this has become a GPU Benchmark at this point and is no longer a processor comparison we're using the same card for all tests so we're seeing the same performance and differences here are statistically insignificant and should not be read into further than effectively identical and within test variants moving on to Dota 2 the core of our most recent 1700 versus 7700k streaming test was DOTA 2's so it's only fair that the game makes return here as a side note because of this 144 Herz testing we discovered a typographical error in one of our streaming bench mark graphs pertaining to the 1700 Baseline performance the FPS that is that's been corrected in the article with a note though the conclusion remains uneffective basically the R7 1700's Baseline performance when not streaming was lower than we originally thought but streaming performance was unaffected and remained identical since again just a typo on the Baseline item anyway that cleared away now that we have a new test to look at let's start with 1080P and ultra settings where we've manually maxed the game Dota 2 shows clear favor to the i77700k in both its stock and overclock configurations we'll later turn down some settings to try and Achieve that 144 FPS marker as you can see the 7700k is clearly ahead in this title under current conditions and again this is tested differently than our previous Dota 2 test because we're using a different duration for the scene tested so you can't really Compare the numbers we're at 174 FPS average on the 4.9 GHz 7700 K with a stock CPU at 164 FPS average 1% .1% low metrics are always distant in Dota 2 but are higher with the Intel part than the 1700 the 1700 is clearly limiting GPU performance here where we're seeing a 117 FPS average when overclock to 3.9 GHz and 106 when in stock clocks this places the overclock 7700k 49% ahead of the overclock 1700 with these stock 7700k about 55% ahead of the 1700 stock let's move on to the star of the show 1440p at 144 Herz the stock r7700 performs at about 106 FPS average roughly the same as we saw at 1080p indicating that we're still choking overclocking gets us roughly the same within test variance at 117 FPS average the i7 CPUs haven't really changed here either we see more of a change at 4K once the GPU bottleneck is instantiated but for now we're clearly CPU bottlenecked on all these part parts we wanted to know what settings would be required to get the r7700 CPU up to 144 FPS and Achieve our 1440p 144 Herz goal so we dropped the settings as indicated on the screen now with our low settings we're able to free up enough of the CPU to ascend to 149 FPS average when overclocked and nearly 140 FPS Average stock again this is by dropping basically every setting down to low or it's near low Point that's getting about where our Target is so dropping settings to low and overclocking pushes Beyond 144 Herz territory on the 1700 just to close this one out here's a 4K charge GPU bottleneck finally enter play choking the 7700k down to 156 FPS average the r7700 sits where it has been for the past two charts and the CPU is clearly the limiting factor here Doom is out next and stands as one of the lightest workloads we Benchmark presently despite looking pretty good the game is well optimized to a point of being difficult to Benchmark at times particularly given its 200 FPS physics bug that causes frame rate to lock the closer we get to 200 FPS the less accurate our topend results will be as the frame rates are capped so that'll drag the average down for this reason testing 1080p is pointless at 1440p with ultra settings and asynchronous compute on because async compute works with anti-aliasing disabled these days the 4.9 GHz 7700 K is chart topping at 181 FPS average 141 FPS 1% lows and 124 FPS 0.1% lows the CPU is beginning to bump into the 200 FPS limiter in some scen so this is truncated a bit the stock CPU runs at 178 FPS average with the overclocked 3.9 GHz 1700 at 167 FPS average and lows which are proportionately scaled this places the overclocked 7700k about 8.4% ahead of the overclocked r7700 not accounting for the FPS cap the stock 1700 runs at 166 FPS average so we're really not gaining much from the overclock in this particular title at least with limited upward scaling regardless it's clear either CPU could reasonably achieve ultra settings at 1440p 144 Herz and doom and so we meet our objective on both the R7 1700 and the i77700k despite the ladder's 8% lead both are capable of achieving this goal so depending on your uses you may well be okay with the 1700 at 4K resolution just because that's what Doom requires to become stressful all the CPUs become more Bound by the GPU than anything else getting stuck at 92 to 97 FPS average the 7700k technically still holds a lead here but not in a appreciable one the r7700 and i77700 K are effectively identical in performance with regard to appreciable differences and neither is capable of holding 144 Hertz we'd have to lower settings or resolution to get that rocket league is next and is an extremely undemanding game at least without modification its maximum frame rate is capped at 250 FPS out of box just like Doom anything beyond 250 FPS will not be reflected in averages since it's not recorded so our numbers will be dragged down as we approach that cap at 1440p the stock 7700k was already at Max 249 FPS average limiting its usefulness In the comparison since there's no telling what it would be running at without that artificial cap the stock 1700 managed 203 FPS which indicates a CPU limitation further proven by our Improvement in average FPS by 12.4% when overclocked to 3.9 GHz at 1440p we're able to achieve 144 Herz playback actually 200 HZ playback on the r7700 the 7700 K carries tighter frame times for overall greater frame delivery consistency and so there's an argument to be made for keeping even lowend performance towards 140 FPS but the averages are passing on both the 1700 7700k particularly after overclocking and are largely not really appreciable once you get kind of higher than that anyway moving to 4K the cap becomes less of a concern as we stray further from 250 FPS both the CPUs are still above 144 average given the low intensity of Rocket league with a 108 TI the 7700k is holding its lead by about 10% on average whether or not this is significant in advantages is up to you as the buyer and depends on your other use cases if you're not going to use it for anything else but this type of gaming maybe buy the CPU that would best fit the scenario that'd be the 7700k if you're planning to do other things consider the 1700 Battlefield 1 is the last Benchmark these tests are conducted differently from our standard Battlefield benchmarks just like the Dota 2 ones were here and so the data is not at all comparable to data this test is run using more intensive scenes involving heavier combat that's recorded over a longer period of time it's not quite what you'd get in a 64 player server so account for that but it is as close as we can reliably get without introducing a million uncontrollable variables by 64 grieving players at 1080p the 7700k leads at 174 FPS average overclocked or 172 FPS Average stock this positions the CPU Beyond 144 Herz territory with the r77 00 falling just below at 132 FPS average overclocked and 123 FPS Average stock low and frame times sit behind the 7700k at 1440p ultra settings the 7700k becomes more GPU bound and limits to 133 to 134 FPS average with results between the stock and overclocked variant outputting effectively equally thanks to the GBU limitation the r7700 now operates in the range of 122 average to 125 average regardless of vendor neither CPU is hitting 144 HZ at 1440p so to get that we have to drop down to 1440p and high settings with our lowered settings the 7700k pushes up to 150 to 153 FPS average now achieving our 144 Hertz goals and the r7700 sits around 139 FPS average when overclocked or 133 FPS average when stock it's tough to get much more performance out of this given that most Graphics options in games sent around GPU bound items but lowering geometric complexity and other LOD type effects would help boost frame rate a bit where Intel can run a mix of high and Ultra for 144 Herz at 1440p an hour test environment and again your mileage will vary based on scene AMD needs to drop to a mix of medium and high and again the point of this coverage is to provide a look at the reality of the situation of these two CPUs they're both good CPUs but depending on what you're doing one of them may be less good for your use case so this hopefully along with the streaming Benchmark and the VR Benchmark helps show where each one shines in VR we saw no effective difference really at all even objectively looking at the numbers with really narrow margins you just you don't see a lot of difference with streaming there is a measurable difference certainly in the 17001 handily over the 7700 K with this test depending on the game we're seeing scenarios where e well generally as a rule across all these titles the 7700k is basically always in the lead how much of a lead depends on the game how much that lead matters depends on the target frame rate in cases where we're going north of 200 FPS like rocket League or OverWatch in some scenarios does it really matter if you're targeting 144 Hertz maybe not but if all you're doing is gaming the 7700k gets you that much further past whatever FPS it is you want so it's entirely up to you whether that matters some people are frame rate nuts more than others and uh I mean that's really all there is to it if you're doing stuff along inside this High FPS gaming for example maybe you're a streamer and you don't want to use an external box for one reason or another and you don't want to use Envy encoder for one reason or another then consider the 1700 or something like that because as we've tested it is clearly Superior in CPU encoding tasks while gaming and streaming simultaneously if you're not doing that options include things like blender animations or premere encoding or something like that where if you're doing something that's CPU accelerated it would probably be better to get the rise in CPU if you're doing something that's very heavily Cuda accelerated and you're gaming otherwise the 7700k is still a good buy so as you can see this is not me waffling between a decision between these two CPUs I'm not trying to appease Everyone by saying both are good at different things because the reality is they are it's not an attempt to make friends with commenters on the internet these CPUs are both good at different things is very complex which one is better and it depends entirely on what you're doing so the point of this is to say that despite what you see in comments they're both good at different things figure out what things you do take our numbers and others hopefully look around the web and find others and combine them to figure out what you should buy so at this point Spectators in the comments are probably getting Whiplash from crying shill for AMD and shill for Intel depending on which Benchmark it is because as you can see it sways from AMD to Intel who wins The Benchmark depending on what task we're testing and wins there is in scare quotes because Victory really depends on what else the CPU is going to do if it's only gaming well I guess Intel wins here if it's live streaming gaming AMD wins there so it boils down to wins and loses there's some of your wins and losses as always you can find more information in the article below hopefully this helps paint the picture that yes things are quite complicated with silicon and semiconductors and processors and uh at this point you should have enough data to put together some thoughts on whether you need the 1700 or the 7700k 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